yeah, that tends to happen
#gd2-nullified
fading socket
warm jewel
Bill-o-the-wisps would detonate all the children
dull ingot
i had a buncha gasoline and wisps too ;')
fading socket
I bet they'll patch it so that Soulbound specifically isn't triggered by the doll
dull ingot
yeah that would be good
patent pumice
dull ingot
fading socket
also I heard the doll can just randomly drop lunar coins
dull ingot
my friend managed to screenshot the aftermath lmao
warm jewel
Doom
fading socket
yo that actually looks cool af
dull ingot
catalyst was the last thing i got
its daggers mostly
that was the best way to end a god run
warm jewel
With a supernova
fading socket
congrats, you broke the game
warm jewel
I want more end game running potential. Something like Enter the gungeon with the bullet that can kill time
A unique level for every character, do that and you get a new skill
I would love that
That would be some fun world-building, character development, and lore. On top of a encounter that focuses on the one characters skill-set
I would hate to be the person who mains engi
fading socket
Engi just gets CoD zombies lol
dull ingot
hey whats that 3rd new monster log? I haven't seen anything new
fading socket
or TF2's MvM
honestly I'm curious myself
I apparently haven't even seen the thing since the icon still shows as locked on my end
dull ingot
main thing I'm wondering... is it a special event monster, or will I find it randomly
warm jewel
You need to beat the entire game without taking a single hit while also only using the w key to get it
oh, and you get to see engi naked if you do it on monsoon
dull ingot
warm jewel
No, It's true. My uncle works at Hoopoo games!
Oh shit, wrong, Hopoo
I would love to see a character that is related to the final boss as a playable thing. Get a unique cutscene and everything when you arrive. Only works when you are on your own. Given a new fight all together
Yeah, so, I kinda want a Furi boss fight in RoR
That entire last level has that vibe
dawn hatch
Waiting for the Heretic set to complete.
warm jewel
Get the Frog from Nuclear throne
Jump through all these hoops with the items to get a new character for a bit
fading skiff
if a have a X equipment and i do the artifact of enigma, when i go out of the bulwark place, do i keep the X equipment?
fading skiff
it happens that with the artifact of metamorphosis, it changes the character to the character you got in the bulwark place
warm jewel
I don't think the game is keeping track of the item you came in with. I reckon you get to keep the new item
limber hearth
||King Nothing took my items, called me out on my cheating, and beat my head in. || Good game, yes, great game, love it.
warm jewel
Heh
fading skiff
lol
warm jewel
Such a cool moment. I wish there was more to the fight during that bit
It's quite simple
limber hearth
I will say, I think ||King Nothing|| is a bit of a disappointment compared to Providence, but that's because Providence dresses up like some sort of sun god while.... ||He's just in a loincloth.||
warm jewel
||Broke||
limber hearth
The fight itself is very cool, it's just the boss itself doesn't look as visually appealing as "I am a god commanding twin Wyrms for the glory of the planet"
warm jewel
Could have a fight in a void with no platforms or anything
Items wittle away as the battle goes on
limber hearth
||For someone that is broke, he sure does love to wavedash around me at 500 miles an hour.||
fading socket
He kinda gives me Gwyn vibes in a sense
limber scaffold
Mithrix's title of King Nothing
Metallica reference?
warm jewel
Maybe
limber hearth
That makes sense, but idk, I think if his movements were a lot more... Struggling, rather than still styling on you like it was nothing the theme would come through harder
warm jewel
and then a rescue team shows up very angrily
fading socket
well, phase 4 kinda puts that across
fluid harness
basically providence liked worms and he threw his brother mithrix to the moon since mithrix threw worms in a well
so yeah mithrix is kinda babby
warm jewel
The entire fight should have been fighting the king with everything (maybe copy your build), and then once you beat him he goes into nothing and saps away your items
fading socket
worms ARE pretty cool
limber hearth
Wyrms cool
It still cracks me up that Providence canonically died to someone running a crit build
limber hearth
Just 100 copies of Lense-Makers glasses
warm jewel
"You invade my home!"
takes off one of many glasses
"Does it look like I care?"
Takes off another pair of glasses
And so he left, without class
fading socket
warm jewel
The captain gives the game a more warm feeling with the roster
before everyone was just shooting stuff
now there's a mission, and someone to remind everyone of that
limber hearth
What's a good build for Artificer? Something funny
green nacelle
Trade everything for fungus and cosplay engineer
warm jewel
Just stand there waiting for cooldowns
green nacelle
Btw how to kill boss on monsoon no artifacts?
limber hearth
Can Acrid survive Soup Island?
warm jewel
How's this for a last boss. A super tall order, but a unique boss for every character
Made to make that character scream
limber hearth
Eh, I think the one boss we have is a pretty good end point
It's a big lore boss that's been built up to forever
green nacelle
The boss that steals all the fungus from engineer xD
dull ingot
How play engineer and not suck lol
gloomy nova
Fall off cliff due to wonky platforming
Respawn 1ith 1 hp near Lunar Chimera
Instant death
Commencement is such a poorly designed level
dull ingot
why is it so big?
trail hollow
^
dull ingot
and more importantly so empty
sterile aurora
guys im on level 5, drizzle, artifacts of command and metamorphosis, should i fight the boss
gloomy nova
The entire starting area is pointless. It's dramatic, but it eats at your time
sterile aurora
also how do i not choose to fight the boss
trail hollow
interact with the horns on tele
dull ingot
after playing the first game, the final level was actually pretty cool, lost of stuff, could buy things to help with the actual fight, couuld still loot. This one... it's just a big emtpy field. What are you gonna do in it, play baseball?
gloomy nova
Not just that, but the final level of the first game was all about hold-outs. The entire fight leading up to the boss was action packed.
fading socket
I like the atmosphere but I do agree with you guys about it seeming like needless filler at the moment
trail hollow
has anyone in here unlocked hack beacon for captain
dull ingot
I guess the first game left us, or at least me pretty expecting of something epic and it's just... bleh
trail hollow
i did two 120 minute runs and didnt find a single big drone
dull ingot
I unlocked it
trail hollow
on rallypoint delta?
fading socket
just kinda gotta get lucky it seems
dull ingot
yea I feel ya. I suggest getting with other people if you can. More people means more loot on the field
will really increase your chances
fading socket
good point there
trail hollow
yeah i was soloing so thats it i guess
sterile aurora
guys im on level 5, drizzle, artifacts of command and metamorphosis, should i fight the boss
coral notch
strides of heresy/shadowfade on captain: yay or nay?
i'm a bit wary of the loss of damage by replacing it, but a "get out of jail" button that allows vertical mobility...
sterile aurora
im
trail hollow
yeah you can fight him
trail hollow
fair
big tip, when he starts stealing your items dump all your abilities as fast as you can
deal as much damage as possible before all your items are gone
trail hollow
hes cool
fading socket
yeah, I think he's cool :^)
lusty socket
final boss was super cool, just beat it, great stuff from the devs!
dull ingot
so nobody knows what that 3rd new monster log is?
fading socket
for me it's just the damage
coral geyser
none of the drones I bought followed me can follow us to the boss room, they're getting stuck-ish in the first room on commencement
fading socket
might be because of the way the jump works, they might be stuck under the arena lol
coral geyser
no but like
commencement first room is a box they're getting caught on walls trying to follow
final tusk
in the final stage if you go grab the items is there anyway to get back up if you dont have any jump abilities?
me and three friends got stuck because one person got knocked down
fading socket
go to #ror2-game-questions and check pinned messages @final tusk
final tusk
Thank you, @fading socket . couldn't salvage the run but that's something to try next time.,
fading socket
yeah, just be careful when traveling to Soup Island
gonna need some hopoo feathers
final tusk
yah we had one between the three of us, so we knew to be careful and got past. put an enemy spawned and hit one of my players off the map
than he spawned on the isalnd
burnt lynx
What exactly is Eclipse Level?
fading socket
Eclipse is a scaling difficulty
or gamemode, I should say
it gets harder every time you complete a monsoon run as a specific character
burnt lynx
Ah, up to 8 times. I see now.
fading socket
yep
burnt lynx
Wild
limber hearth
||....and so she left, her soul still remaining on the planet.|| What a good ass good game, finally.
buoyant thicket
so nobody knows what that 3rd new monster log is?
@dull ingot both chimera’s and Mithrix... I could be wrong
dull ingot
@buoyant thicket there are 2 variations to the Chimera's?
buoyant thicket
flying one and grounded one
hidden fjord
I wonder if they added 1 more artifact. Considering they have added the Moon. So a new Place to Hide a artifacts code
buoyant thicket
I think someone told me there a log for both
tired wagon
Look at the list of challenges, if theres no new challenge there isnt an artifact
uneven flare
what do the tags in the multiplayer mean? IE rv1, a= etc
tired wagon
It would be cool though if they added like an artifact of the moon where all the enemies are the chimeras or something, or they can spawn like normal enemies
dull ingot
probs that one artifact, enemies can spawn outside of their normal habbitat
polar anvil
@pliant osprey #ror2-bug-reports-pc
fluid axle
Hey when is console (Specificslly Ps4) going to get the update? There’s nothing I want more then a new character so I’m very excited
fluid axle
Oh that’s awful
burnt lynx
How you do loop now instead of going ot the moon?
dull ingot
oh I figured that one out. You interact with the ring around the teleporter
alternatively, you could activate the blue portal, or do an artifact run
burnt lynx
Okay, gotcha
buoyant thicket
image for example
drifting shore
outa curiosity, whats the farthest monsoon run yall gone with any ol PUG
static echo
23 stages
drifting shore
wow thats quite fortunate
drifting shore
3 sounds about right..
static echo
burning imps can die in a well
drifting shore
anything thats burning
and wisps
static tide
is there a way to play unlimited rounds like it was before 1.0
royal phoenix
do this
dapper kelp
Yeah when you get to the final stage you can interact with the little pillars around the main teleporter. Once you do they should move and a message saying " The teleporter is aligned to the planet" should appear.
stoic veldt
Anyone have good MUL-T tips? Just unlocked it and I'm excited to try. I read the wiki and it seems like it benefits more from damage than attack speed?
fading socket
rebar ain't that good, double nail gun is prolly better unless you really hate far-away lesser wisps and jellyfish
buoyant thicket
we all got the photo now!!!
stoic veldt
Ohh you can loadout two of the same skill? I didn't get that
fading socket
yeah, I didn't know at first either
stoic veldt
So both your buttons fire the nailgun? That's cool
stoic veldt
The wiki says his proc co-efficient is low? But maybe that's ok if you have double nailgun
fading socket
yeah, and the new bleed system is probably great for him
buoyant thicket
you also need mobility
fading socket
he has the highest base attack speed so his proc coefficient is lower to compensate
buoyant thicket
it’s low but he shoots very fast so it cancels out
fading socket
though I think they just buffed it in 1.0
buoyant thicket
new bleed is Amazing
stoic veldt
These are helpful tips, thank you
heady bluff
Also lets MulT max out bleed with a much higher dagger count which is cool. 18 daggers vs 7 for 100%
buoyant thicket
also crits with shatterspleen on mult OMG
uneven flare
where can i find what the tags mean in the multiplayer browser? i dont know what rv1, a=, mn, or rs mean and i cant play any multiplayer games
cobalt forge
mn and rs are monsoon and rainstorm
rv1 is probably rulevoting on
a= is probably the amount of artifacts
burnt lynx
I can't interact with the ring around the portal
I'm only allowed to hit the blue portal
Unless I'm supposed to hit the ring first before activating portal?
misty shore
Dang I gotta wait 3 months
buoyant thicket
ring first
spice heath
Does anyone else get some furi vibes from the final stage?
errant yew
4th attempt still no luck. didnt realize the flying machine gun guys could also shoot rpgs
ive been able to do stuff in this game thats way harder so i dont get why im tweaking against him
hollow plinth
right, so previously i was unclear whether or not mithrix used the items he stole. then he hit me with fire ring and now i'm certain he uses your items
and i'm also sad that i died
errant yew
ive dealt with some real bullshit on that last phase
hollow plinth
i was just doing a chill huntress command run
errant yew
the first time fighting him, it was all cool but now its pissing me off
hollow plinth
and i coasted through the first 3 phases
then he hit me with my own fire ring ice ring combo
errant yew
ive been trying to beat him monsoon no artifacts and it sucks
hollow plinth
it's possible to win
as long as you dont have any power items
like 7 daggers or rings
errant yew
one run i had max daggers and he quickly used that against me
osp works but then i bleed out
hollow plinth
yea thats a bruh moment
i was playing captain last night and a magma worm took me to OSP without even being visible
and im like WHERE IS MY HEALTH
WHERE DID ALL MY HEALTH GO and then i died to fire
errant yew
im just pissed since ive been playing this game for a year, know the mechanics in and out, but im totally smurfing on this one fight
fading socket
yeah, phase 4 is pretty tough no matter what
it's funny that it's actually tougher when you're on a good run than if you're on a bad one
fathom talon
You can usually cheese the 4th stage if you're strong enough. You can damage him while he's taking your items and is fairly squishy
errant yew
ive never had a cheese build for the boss but thats what im now going for
fathom talon
Also a high burst active item helps a lot or giving him shaped glass lol
errant yew
if i get a bunch of tonic afflictions before the last phase does he take the nerfs?
fading socket
yeah, Royal Capacitor with some fuel cells will probably kick his ass
heady bluff
@errant yew i've seen mixed answers in the chat. Someone earlier said it did, another guy said they didn't take afflictions
errant yew
h e t a k e s t h e f u e l c e l l s
well one more run for me before i call it quits. i'll try to grab preon on stage 3. should i take or leave gestures if i find it?
fading socket
if you wanna burst him with the preon, then leave them
heady bluff
@errant yew if you're trying to beat him then no gestures so you can burst
fading socket
unless you're really good with timing
radiant oar
Has anyone seen what happens if Mithrix gets a Dio
errant yew
i had preon and gestures one run. hitting him wasnt a problem just my preon was on its cooldown when i needed it on the last phase
mithrix took my dio. i died soon after
fading socket
@radiant oar pretty sure he does use it
jade magnet
opal plaza
The more I find out about the final boss the more i regret forcing myself to get good on monsoon
plucky ether
we pooled and recycled items for 20 minutes trying to get feathers or an afterburner to save him
finally I used Huntress R to hover and he jumped off my head far enough to reset
needless to say with those items, we didn't win
opal plaza
Ah that sucks
I hope it doesnt happen again on the next run
Is it even a good idea to force myself to get good by only playing monsoon with no artifacts?
opal plaza
Main reason for me is to get the skins for the characters, maybe also unlock the captain
fading socket
I unlocked him on rainstorm
oh I also learned that the logbook can drop on any phase where his own health gets lowered to zero
opal plaza
I'm mostly afraid of the boss because I got one shot on drizzle well messing around
fading socket
I got it phase one in my last run
yeah, the orb attack is no joke on any difficulty, at any stage
opal plaza
His second attack was a overhead slam so I got no idea
plucky terrace
the overhead slam is so cool
fading socket
I wouldn't be surprised if the damage of the orbs were set to your max hp
they've killed me in like one or two hits multiple times now
errant yew
what has been my rng since this updates come out. as soon as i pick up transcendence, i pull rejuv rack out right after from a small chest 🤦♂️
fading socket
that's rough, buddy
opal plaza
Speaking of which, did they change mob spawns and stuff like that?
I swear the game got harder then the last update
fading socket
I don't even take transcendence because it's so bad for synergy
errant yew
which stages do the lunar pools spawn in?
opal plaza
Most with more elites and enemies over all
fading socket
they actually did speed up the difficulty increase by 10%
opal plaza
Ah, anything involving mobs?
fading socket
I don't think so, just that the timed difficulty increases faster
so the game will be able to spawn more stuff quicker
opal plaza
How odd, I guess I've just been horribly unlucky
fading socket
or stronger stuff quicker, in your case
dull ingot
I finally succeeded in getting me some grenades for Commando
opal plaza
I belive it is just luck because last run I did I got clapped by a golem before I even got out of the pod
fading socket
@errant yew wetland aspect, scorched acres, and siren's call
errant yew
alright. im gonna try to salvage the situation
slate stump
im kinda surprised they left most of the logbook entries blank. every logbook entry in ror1 had information/backstory
i guess in post 1.0 updates
opal plaza
Well at least they are adding more
fading socket
yeah, probably
they did say there were gonna be post-launch updates
the one thing I'm kinda sad about is that those potential new abilities were just placeholders (seemingly)
I was interested in seeing what they'd replace Huntress's glaive with
fading socket
that would be sick honestly
opal plaza
I've more or less been trying to get into modding but laziness is a pain
fading socket
I haven't messed with modding myself, and I've heard that it's not hard at all, but that would make it even easier
opal plaza
Ah, that's good
I'm also glad the models are rather simple
It should hopefully make modeling one semi easy
gusty hare
Modding was trivially easy in my experience as there was a simple to use browser, but some form of official support would be nice too yeah
quartz saffron
engi turrets with microbots, that's cheeky
gusty hare
Still kinda weird that it's the only way to get the log at the moment
plucky terrace
wait how do you get the logbook on them
plucky terrace
aight
deep veldt
then when the umbra spawns u get the microbots
plucky terrace
sweet thanks
gusty hare
Can just finish stage 1 and not teleport and wait around for ten minutes if you only want the log
narrow sparrow
who made the pot boss item kill teammates
gusty hare
Maintain social distancing, even in game
dry mirage
Social distancing : the item
fading socket
well, the pot's big succ attack also succs it's allies, why shouldn't yours?
errant yew
t h e l a s t p h a s e
hushed forum
f
errant yew
never taking transcendence again since he practically regained all the health i did when i had items🤦♂️
hushed forum
do you get an achievement for killing mith on monsoon?
oblique flame
There is a single achievement that requires you to kill him on Monsoon which unlocks a Lunar item called Purity.
errant yew
if you guys weren't aware, monsoon is kinda the only way to play the game smh
hushed forum
can't you just obliterate to get it?
polar anvil
wrong
oblique flame
...And it reduces your skill cooldowns by 2, but makes you unlucky...which I'm assuming means you either proc less or get less items.
errant yew
@polar anvil your godamn right
oblique flame
Thats a yikes. I'm assuming some benefit way more from it otherwise
hushed forum
btw i was messing around on easy mode while trying to get the chunked achievement since i never bothered
polar anvil
it reduces cooldowns?
hushed forum
i learned how to press Q
polar anvil
time to b i t e
oblique flame
I mean...it's not like your gonna lose much from it anyway considering how some items just bypass proc chance entirely.
hushed forum
that and depending on build you can increase proc chance
unless it gets capped or you stack purity a bunch it'll probably be ok
oblique flame
And yeah, it reduces cooldowns. Makes me wonder what happens if you have it with you when you get to Mithrix considering the item fits right into the hole on his hammer...
polar anvil
how negative luck works is it rerolls successful chances for unsuccessful
so if you roll atg succesful,it will try to reroll for not sending atg
oblique flame
My question is if it rolls before or after clover rolls.
Because if it rolls after, then that sucks.
polar anvil
uHh
oblique flame
If it rolls before, well...still a chance clover can carry it anyway
polar anvil
@shut jewel do you know
My question is if it rolls before or after clover rolls.
potent pine
Do anyone know what the new lunar item is what youget when you beat the game in monsoon
hushed forum
would it be an if then?
purity @potent pine we're talking about it now
it reduces cooldown by 2 but makes you unlucky
skill cooldown
oblique flame
If Purity rolls before Clover, then it's not such a bad lunar item at all since Clover can save it
But if it rolls after, that's going to kill your clover lmao
tired axle
there is a luck stat
shut jewel
@polar anvil luck is increased by clover, reduced by purity
hushed forum
is it a judgement thing, where clover only rolls if unsuccessful? and purity only rolls if successful?
oh
polar anvil
so if you take clover and purity,both do nothing?
oblique flame
Hmm...so it's still somewhat even anyway
tired axle
@polar anvil you still get the purity buff
polar anvil
yeah
hushed forum
so normal luck then
polar anvil
who needs procs anyways
hushed forum
with purity buff lol
polar anvil
just let me eat things
oblique flame
Loader could probably take a bunch of Purities and not have a worry in the world
Especially with the band changes
errant yew
i was so hyped for the content but i need a break now. five times have i gotten to mithrix on monsoon and ive died every time. i keep getting killed from the stupidest shit
hushed forum
it's rough
errant yew
ive only tried with mando though so i might have some luck with other characters
radiant oar
speaking of which, which characters might be best at fighting mithrix? My friend and i speculated engineer, artificer, and rex
wispy raptor
Especially with the band changes
@oblique flame did they change somehow
polar anvil
they are now guaranteed to proc on hard hits and have a cd
@radiant oar engi,arti with surge
radiant oar
do you know if mithrix’s projectile ability an be shot upwards. If not, i might just cheese it and float above him during the last phase
obsidian forum
hey guys so mul-t kinda cool
select two rebar launchers and then hold down r and left click and you rapid fire 600% damage
hushed forum
merc with buff might be good against mithrix since I frames and expose now
@radiant oar i know the rectangles and stuff that basically kill you go all the way up, when he does the spinning stuff with the lines on the floor
i think otherwise its p safe to be above him
slate stump
does mithrix use tougher times??
radiant oar
oh i meant specifically for the phase where he steals your items
does mithrix use tougher times??
@slate stump according to the wiki, no
hushed forum
well that phase you're looking to burst him before he steals everything
sterile swallow
Can you get back to commencement after you beat the game? I feel like I missed something but I looped instead when using the primordial teleporter
polar anvil
plucky terrace
yo wheres the logbook for the moon
hushed forum
so if you want high damage, loader, rex, artificer
engineer isn't good against mith imo just bc stationary turrets just die against him
polar anvil
mobile shall shine
barren birch
What would be the appropriate channel to post a scoreboard screenshot or link to the reddit thread I made for it? My friend dealt 1.3 billion damage in ONE HIT.
polar anvil
@barren birch how much glass
barren birch
none
polar anvil
Huh
barren birch
our best guess is one of the large loader hits launched an ATG missile from his 44 missile launcher items, and then combined with his death mark and/or his 21 focus crystals.
cobalt aspen
love getting 240frames on ror2
thorny anvil
engineer isn't that good
hushed forum
@barren birch you atg missile is like 13k per hit but i mean you guys were playing for so long its not that big a surprise
thorny anvil
unless you've got like, insane defensive items
even with shieldgens and a bloody pearl he still one taps my turrets
hushed forum
the only reason i like engineer is cause with enough attack speed its just balls everywhere
austere knoll
How does shatterspleen stack?
elfin plinth
warped pine
hey, anyone know if a huntress with a hopoo feather could escape 'cauldron island'?
i have the ballista abilit as well, or whatever you call it
... well off to the final boss i guess. wish me luck
NOOO
rip me
supple widget
ignore comedy island until the patch releases
frosty terrace
man, I'm so sad that I lost that run where I found a shatterspleen printer
warped pine
f
frosty terrace
but I also found it so early that I couldn't use it more than once, if I find that in like a later loop and can stack a few, that seems super good
scaling with enemy max hp is busted as shit
tardy mason
are captin abilitys ment to not work in the void
storm kettle
For some reason, that is a feature Goose
tardy mason
well i guess it makes sense
storm kettle
Honestly hope captain gets some real buffs next update.
arctic terrace
i swear fire mushrum are prenerf fire golems all over again
storm kettle
A rework of his 2 to be not worthless
cloud elbow
Hey, can someone tell nme how to set up a multiplayer lobby that just ends if all player died? Like Risk of Rain before the final stage?
storm kettle
Get oneshot, spectal?
arctic terrace
yeah
storm kettle
Ya hate to see it
arctic terrace
it bypasses osp anyway because of the dots
storm kettle
Not even the burn, it's the creep that does in the last 10%
They're a bit more avoidable than pre-nerf fire golems, though.
mild brook
Honestly hope captain gets some real buffs next update.
he's really strong rn
i wouldn't say a straight buff but
some changes would be appreciated
frosty terrace
I haven't played him yet, but heard a lot of mixed things about captain
hearty violet
i only played 2 games in single player but i felt weaker then my usual huntress
storm kettle
Change it to be a utility with some aoe, or more damage, or don't make 50% of all mobs immune, or scrap it for anything else
undone fiber
So I was just running a monsoon run with arti and I was able to glitch the boss on stage 1
frosty terrace
also engineer against the last boss didn't see the most effective thing ever, the boss is like a heat seeking missile and kills turrets in seconds
managed to get it done though
undone fiber
Seemed weird that it worked like that but I froze him with the ice wall during pizza attack and he just sat there trying to keep doing it
storm kettle
Engi is good against the last boss, but you have to be independent for phases 1 and 3
storm kettle
Well sure. Getting plural of a specific legend is a bit of a tall order though
frosty terrace
I also got hit to 10% hp multiple times during the boss fight
hearty violet
How do you beat the final phase?
frosty terrace
I wonder if that was just luck or some grace planned by devs
undone fiber
Shoot him and you will eventually get items back. Kite him and LOS him when he does his projectiles
storm kettle
Letaali, it's oneshot protection
frosty terrace
kk
hearty violet
what if im merc
undone fiber
Hit and run
hearty violet
I see
undone fiber
I'd say use your invuln frames to your advantage
storm kettle
Don't get ganked is about the best advice I can give for phase 4
hearty violet
what attacks does he do in the final phase? something one shot me
frosty terrace
the boss didnt do much of anything in the phase where he took my items, I just placed turrets and lobbed bombs
undone fiber
He does a set of projectiles, and once you dps a bit he throws out blue glowing balls
undone fiber
And easy to dodge imo^
lapis jolt
what’s the name of the multiplayer mod that allows 5+ people in a game? I know it’s probably not updated for 1.0 yet but I wanna know what it’s called
hearty violet
i think the machine gun killed me in 2 seconds 😄 so its balls on the floor and machine gun. Thats it?
storm kettle
As engi you cheese it by turrets not losing items
hearty violet
😮
storm kettle
Yep. That's all he does
hearty violet
i see, cool
warped pine
does killing final boss instantly end game, or can you quit and not get any achievements for it?
cus i wanna kill it with command artifact run
undone fiber
He also is pretty slow
warped pine
but i dont want the achievements cus it feels cheaty
storm kettle
The achievement is the unlock microman
undone fiber
Ehh command is what it is.
storm kettle
The boss isn't the worst if you're on decent pace and treat all of his attacks as death
You interact with the teleporter prongs to make it go to loop instead of moon
hearty violet
Is there something that signals his dash? I just try to guess when he'll dash
warped pine
oh ok
storm kettle
Sergio, my jank strat is jump at him while he dashes about. He usuallu doesn't usually hit. (I've only beat him 2 times and faced him ~9 times so take that with a grain of salt)
He dashes at the start of almost all of his attacks in phase 1 and 3
hearty violet
so you jump towards him or around him you mean?
frosty terrace
the primordial teleporter has outside rings that can take you to the moon or loop, interact with that
oh someone already answered
storm kettle
I mean jump towards him whenever he teleports.
hearty violet
ok
storm kettle
He blinks I believe twice, and I try to end up to the right of him.
undone fiber
So if you're playing with friends and they die during his last phase, if you kill him do you get all the items or does it only give you what you have
Not kill him but like, the intervals that he returns the items
hot bloom
Whenever my group has decided to fight I'd always be playing a class that wasn't great in his final phase, can't I've ever seen any of them get my items back.
quartz saffron
austere knoll
hes vibin
warped pine
even in death, he spun
grim zenith
Man nothing sucks more then thinking you can escape comedy island so you visit it
Only to find out your feather and speed wasn't enough
Can get riiiiight there, but just not enough height to make it on the bridge.
quartz saffron
monsters sometimes do that @warped pine , it's even funnier with brass contraptions
grim zenith
frosty terrace
I prioritize movement speed items so much that I never really struggle there, also I tend to do at least one loop before going to the moon
grim zenith
Yeahhh, such a painful lesson
grim zenith
Moon music is insanely good. Really upset with myself for playing so long with music off haha, game’s OST is amazing.
exotic heath
I usually spend about 3 hours before I leave stage 1
frosty terrace
lol
less than 0.5% of people have this apparently, because steam doesn't show achievement % if it's too low
cosmic tinsel
Is defiant gourge stackable?
Lunar item that does shrine of combat effect when interacting with a shrine
exotic heath
Everything stacks except the beads.
cosmic tinsel
How would it even stack, does it just procc more than once?
exotic heath
I think it gets more monster tokens to use for spawning more monsters.
patent pumice
@frosty terrace thats because only .5% of people who opened their game on the update AND have unlocked that item went ingame
exotic heath
They get "stronger" and in larger numbers.
patent pumice
dont worry about it
frosty terrace
I feel like red items aren't the only way to a strong run
patent pumice
just defeat the first 3 phases n you're good on the final
a run isn't just your items, but your skill
arctic terrace
lolwhat
skill doesnt matter when balls will just hit you from behind
first 3 phase is easy
patent pumice
skill matters to know where and remember where your enemies are along with being able to prioritize certain enemies over others in a group
arctic terrace
last phase has him shooting balls and machine guns
patent pumice
visions-shots and orbs
exotic heath
Oh
arctic terrace
yeah lemme catch these orb while hes shooting his machine gun at me
you have no clue what you're talking lol
le epic contrarian
exotic heath
No, I just kill him before he takes my items.
patent pumice
what?
patent pumice
just remember when to jump over the orb sides, or be a spot higher up like on the platforms
exotic heath
You can damage him as he takes your items.
patent pumice
im not being contrarian when i only said that "its not just your items its your skill also"
exotic heath
Which gives them back.
arctic terrace
i mean he takes 2-3 then all of them at once
i actually beat him once just doing it again is a pain
warped pine
uhh, to continue my run, instead of interacting with the primordial teleporter, i interact with the "prongs" right? Cus that does not seem to work
arctic terrace
yeah looping is a mess now
exotic heath
Are they in a spiral?
warped pine
yes
exotic heath
Oh
dull ingot
can confirm that mithrix's final phase is entirely learnable as long as you don't pick up a tesla coil
warped pine
oh ok
im doing command run and dont want to get the achievement for completing the game, so i guess i stop my run?
arctic terrace
the low gravity shit means dodging his machine gun is a pain
and you've got 3 stickies on u
warped pine
yeah, huntress was working well for me with mithrix... until i died and genesis loop didn't even kick in
exotic heath
REX and captain are pretty good against him as you can heal yourself and REX can keep him in one place.
austere knoll
lmao yeah theres no escape
it took a command, but i feel like glass offsets the cheese
especially with huntress. a lot of 5 second runs getting one shot by wisps immediately
warped pine
HOLY HELL
so i did a command run on mithrix after alll just to see the phases.... and the item stealing one
jesus
frosty terrace
what the heck is that? I don't recall a creepy arm looking lunar item
supple sierra
strides of heresy
frosty terrace
is it good?
supple sierra
replaces your utility
heals for 25% hp, can fly, become untargetable for a few secs, quite long cd i think
might as well try it
frosty terrace
ok so extremely bad, I feel like the shield is needed for engi on monsoon
exotic heath
I mean you can't take damage while you use the strides of heresy and you heal.
frosty terrace
how long is the cd
exotic heath
Idk off the top of my head.
gusty hare
6 seconds
has some cheese potential because you can still use items while in it- if you get some fuel cells, bandoliers and a decent attacking equipment you can just stay intangible for a long time
frosty terrace
ok yeah 6sec is short enough
I'll give it a try. And now that I heard what it does I recall having this before
should I also take glass blade 🤔
gusty hare
each one you have adds 3 seconds to the intangibility and another 25% to the healing too
exotic heath
Half HP, no OSP but double damage.
exotic heath
Is the healing linear?
strange swallow
How have all the characters/items changed since the update in terms of how good they are? I've read the patch notes but don't understand exactly how much they'll impact the game, bleed in particular is something I'm unsure about. Or is there already some place where people have discussed this that I haven't found?
exotic heath
It is, new.
exotic heath
From what I can tell, almost everything got a buff or became more consistent.
Like the rings are no longer chance based and only proc on high damage attacks.
Bleed got a buff in my opinion
And crit synergy
gusty hare
Movement skills across the board get boosts from movement speed, so huntress can blink across the map and Merc is a little weird
Oh bleed is disgustingly strong now
Especially now that you can double bleed
modest trail
bleed is really good now. I love the changes to the rings as well
Best damage Item(s) on loader
terse tulip
Q - Do if i decide to go for an artefact do i still go to the final boss stage like normal?
modest trail
no
exotic heath
No, you loop.
modest trail
you have to do one more loop
hexed hatch
imagine risk of rain battle royale
modest trail
br is gay
exotic heath
It already is.
terse tulip
just use FF artefact
hexed hatch
nice
frosty terrace
boss can't hit me here, perfect
exotic heath
Oh, Chaos.
strange swallow
How many bleeds can you stack on an enemy?
exotic heath
Infinite
gusty hare
I think I've personally gotten to 300+ on scavengers
exotic heath
Well, whenever the amount of damage from one tick of bleed equals the max HP of a monster.
austere knoll
Is it possible to get more defensive microbots?
strange swallow
So basically what I'm hearing is you can stack infinite bleeds on an enemy, and each time you stack a new one on they all get refreshed? That sounds pretty overpowered
gusty hare
It is
exotic heath
It is
austere knoll
Theres gotta be a reason its an item and not a passive
quartz saffron
use 
, kill the umbra, take his bots
exotic heath
As captain you can put 16 stacks in one shot.
austere knoll
So is it just a random drop, or no?
quartz saffron
if you just want the logbook simply wait 10 mins on drizzle or something
austere knoll
can you command it?
strange swallow
Oh jeez
gusty hare
Cannot command it, has to be from umbra
exotic heath
Ah okay, now I know.
gusty hare
Theoretically you could also Shrine of order into multiples
strange swallow
I also have a question about proc coefficients if you guys don't mind answering it
terse tulip
it is wonderful that MUL-T has higher proc chance now
exotic heath
Oh wait it's not updated.
strange swallow
So from what I understand, a proc coefficient for a skill is like a multiplier for how often on hit items can proc. So for a proc coefficient of 1 a 15% chance will stay that, but a proc coefficient of .5 will make that 15% chance 7.5% instead. For a skill with a proc coefficient less than 1, will stacking an on hit item past 100% chance to proc make it so it can possibly have a 100% to proc? Like lets say for mul-t's nail gun with a .6 proc chance I stack some arbitrary on hit item high enough so it would stack to a 167% chance to hit (which if you multiplied by .6 would be 100), would that have a 100% proc chance or 60% proc chance?
Sorry for sending such a long question, it's difficult to word that concisely
gusty hare
Yes
exotic heath
So, yeah
gusty hare
If you've got a coefficient of .5 but a 200% chance to do something yeah, it's 100%
exotic heath
For a proc corf of .5 you need 12, for 200%, tri-tip
To have 100% proc
9 for .75 15 for .25
4 for a proc coef of 2
gusty hare
Didn't the bleed chance of dagger get nerfed a tiny bit or was I imagining that
frosty terrace
I thought I would die, but that lunar utility is actually really nice with engi when my turrets do so much damage with glass knife and now brilliant behemoth
exotic heath
Oh maybe
I still get 6
And consistently get the bleed but I don't pay that much attention
gusty hare
My mistake then
shy stratus
which of the captains beacons are actually worth taking?
exotic heath
I only take the stun
shy stratus
it seems like all of them are obsolete bar the cooldown refresh
tired axle
i take healing and hack
exotic heath
And I only use it stage one.
gusty hare
I also do healing and hack
shy stratus
the healing one is basically an inferior version of bungus turrets
frosty terrace
uuu I found silence between two strikes! That beats preon I think, gives lighting bombs and shields
exotic heath
If you use two stuns, and time it just right, you can stunlock basically anything.
shy stratus
how practical is that past stage one tho
gusty hare
Healing one is better than fungus turrets because you get to play captain
(Also it heals a lot more than you'd think)
exotic heath
I mean, I farm stage one for an hour and a half with command and sacrifice.
Leumerians can escape
With just one
tired axle
really?
exotic heath
Yeah
tired axle
i never noticed that
tired axle
guess so
tired axle
i don't think there are any plans to add him yet
topaz pumice
shame
tired axle
would be pretty cool tho
exotic heath
Mod magic probably
topaz pumice
that's a point, where do I find mods for the game?
tired axle
topaz pumice
nice
tired axle
there's probably a tutorial on youtube on how to install mods
topaz pumice
ty
vague sparrow
Is it just me or is the existing music not updated to correspond with the final soundtrack? Doldrums doesnt have the extra harmony at around 2:30 in
frosty terrace
mired urn, that's new to me, seems just ok though
exotic heath
Good fun on REX
distant plank
on any melee
arctic terrace
oh well finally i guess
tired axle
nice
exotic heath
Gg
arctic terrace
good tip is to stay as centre to the arena as possible
so u can burst him down without cucked by falloff
arctic terrace
he has no dick
austere knoll
who is that
warped pine
Looks almost like newt
warped pine
Shatterspleen needs to be slightly nerfed
arctic terrace
thats mith lol
warped pine
Oh ..
arctic terrace
lmao i swear the drones are scarier than the temple guards
austere knoll
every tri tip and shatterspleen i get lets me turn more of my brain off
arctic terrace
i wonder why isnt temple guard called as is but shared the lunar chimera name
slate stump
@warped pine thats just newt
outer spoke
||hey does the final boss have a one shot that can go through one shot protection||
frosty terrace
from my experience, no
exotic heath
Idk, I treat all of his attacks as instant kill.
outer spoke
What about the ||slam attack where he jumps up really high||
frosty terrace
I keep hearing grinding from this wall, some sort of secret?
exotic heath
||with the column of light? Not one hit kill but deals a lot of damage very fast||
quartz saffron
you can hear that sound on other maps as well
outer spoke
Man
I just feel robbed
I was so close to killing him
And then I forgot to press my space bar
slate stump
my friend described it as "someone sucking on a gobstopper in my left ear"
it was p funny
long bison
this bitch op as fuck
exotic heath
Yeah
arctic terrace
the sound in wetlands
is the secret thing for unlocking nkuhana
its only in wetland, not in other maps
the ambient sfx is leaking from that room
ebon violet
@outer spoke did you have the tonic debuff items
drifting holly
cant lie captains shift ability feels best from basically any ability in whole game
you can just feel when it lands
harsh sable
is it me or can captain not use Gorag's Opus?
exotic heath
It's a bug
royal phoenix
Also cap isn't 1.5k% x 3
It's actually 500% x 3, despite what the description says
Kinda weird
latent rose
pog
ivory depot
its still good lel
viral nacelle
How do you think he compares to other survivors? Like what tier would you guys say he is
exotic heath
Honestly, either low S or high A
ebon violet
nothing about the atrocity of an m2? @exotic heath
exotic heath
His secondary is useful for stoping attacks you can't dodge early game.
ebon violet
could still use a damage bump
exotic heath
That's not what it's vthere for.
exotic heath
It is designed to interrupt powerful attacks.
No, I just spam M1 but in longer games you normally either hold down every button or only use one button.
viral nacelle
Yea i feel like he is A tier
ebon violet
compare it to mult grenade.. much easier to land except its also aoe
viral nacelle
Main weakness being mobility but that's what items are for
ebon violet
and does more damage on top
exotic heath
Huh?
drifting shore
he's like.. the economy class
yknow how people get like.. 2 items on stage 1 and then they bounce, captain here can grab 2 items immediately with his beacons and start the teleporter event at 45 seconds
exotic heath
Cap's secondary goes in a straight line and can bounce.
ebon violet
doesnt justify it
exotic heath
It goes much further than Mul-t stun grenade and can hit things you don't have LoS of.
drifting shore
his stun guns never really all that great tho like what powerfulk attack is there that isnt just stopped by his passive
exotic heath
Golems
drifting shore
mildly threatening
ebon violet
literally no other survivor has a useless skill
drifting shore
its uuh.. not too impressive
that u seldom sometimes use it on golems on stage 1 or maybe 2
and then never sees the light of day again
undone crest
anyone know of a trick to run into a scavenger?
undone crest
that the only requirement?
drifting shore
his hack is on the same boat where i only use it on stage 1-4 and from that ponit forward, only on legendary chests on abyssal
so already he kinda has 2 skills that are pretty watever by stage 4+
undone crest
i see, thanks bud
exotic heath
To be quite frank, I forget to use his Utility and his Special
I only use the M1 with a bleed and crit build
ebon violet
@undone crest theres guaranteed scavenger in a moment whole
exotic heath
Does that one count for Acrid or the log?
ebon violet
shrug
cobalt forge
It's a unique enemy, the twisted scavenger
exotic heath
Because I think they're different internally
undone crest
yea that was my first thought too "they kinda rare ill just go kill the secert ones"
nope
crimson frigate
with the new update, what's the consensus on fire bolt vs plasma bolt?
ebon violet
id say fire is still superior
undone crest
aw fuck man. i saw a grovetender and thought it was a scav feels bad
blazing jay
jfc they STILL haven't fixed hordes of many appearing too early
ffs i just lost another run to an unwinnable bossfight
exotic heath
They do spawn at the beginning of a stage, normally.
blazing jay
they shouldn't appear in first loop at all honestly
cobalt forge
sky meadow at the earliest for hordes when going at normal monsoon pace
exotic heath
Every teleporter is a hoard of many for me.
blazing jay
even 23 minutes in is way way too early for a horde of many elite elder lemurians
exotic heath
Hm.
undone crest
yea it seems like theyre always one of the bigger enemies too
a hord of many of 5 blazing beetles would be too easy tho ig
cobalt forge
I can agree with that @blazing jay
exotic heath
Horde of many can only be, I believe, Elder leumerians, Brass contraps, greater wisps and maybe parents
Unless you are using kin
blazing jay
i just lost a run to glacial elder lemurians that were somehow more tanky individually than actual bosses and there was 3 of them
pliant bear
battle shrine?
pliant bear
dont suck any hordes arent hard
exotic heath
Honestly
Horde of many isn't as bad as they used to be
And even then they weren't all that bad.
pliant bear
theyre really not that hard
undone crest
oh fuck dude sick
undone crest
lol still a win
quartz saffron
everything does
outer spoke
But like
pliant bear
swarms mitrix
undone crest
LOL
outer spoke
How would you feel about malachite ||mithrix|| walking up to you at mac 4
pliant bear
you can probably get him to elite if you have honor
quartz saffron
scared and aroused
undone crest
alright i finally ran into and killed a scav
yall think its easier to off yourself, or to finish a run?
exotic heath
He doesn't elite with honor
pliant bear
dumb
outer spoke
Well
exotic heath
It's*
undone crest
real sad gamer hours
exotic heath
yall think its easier to off yourself, or to finish a run?
I usually obliterate
warm venture
Hello friends, I have a question
I just played the update for the first time, unlocked captain, trying to get his alternate R's
I was really fucked off by the fact I had to either use the portal at stage 5 or look for a lunar pod in order to keep progressing the run into stage 10 for the unlock
Isn't there a way to go to stage 6 from stage 5 without going through this hassle?
Is there a new portal code to go to stage 6 instead of the moment in time?
undone crest
yea it lets you shift them
exotic heath
undone crest
align the 'porter with the planet
warm venture
OOO
outer spoke
Bruh
warm venture
lol I had no idea HAHA thank you @exotic heath
exotic heath
Thanks I stole the picture
quartz saffron
you could also just use the artifacts portal or go to the bazar
warm venture
literally I just hunted down a lunar pod wasting like 10 minuites in total both times I got to stage 5 hahahhaa
shouldve come here to ask this question before. Derp
welp, off to lugging that equipment bot to stage 4 now
outer spoke
It's like ror1
warm venture
I feel dirty doing this in drizzle with command as opposed to no artifacts + monsoon
outer spoke
Kinda
warm venture
anyone else feel dirty
exotic heath
No
undone crest
i kinda feel dirty doing that shit, but if its just for an unlock its fine
exotic heath
I do command, sacrifice and kin until I have Beatles on stage one.
And then farm 10 of everything
warm venture
ez clap
outer spoke
Funny thing is that I still died when just trying to get him with drizzle, command
warm venture
you're not messing about lol
undone crest
that would make me feel hella dirty
warm venture
treebot doesn't fuck around he's god running that shit
outer spoke
I'm just going to try it with my brother tomorrow
exotic heath
It's also not fun
warm venture
it is not lol
undone crest
LOl
exotic heath
And super boring
warm venture
don't tell me what it is, but is captain's last R the best?
exotic heath
Hm
warm venture
right now I feel the third one (from the stage 10 unlock) is better than 1 and 2
pliant bear
if its not fun, dont do it
undone crest
were any new skills added, aside from captain?
pliant bear
no
undone crest
didnt think so :/
exotic heath
I do like seeing big numbers in my stats.
warm venture
so no seriously, what is captain's best R? it's the third one isn't it? 6 additional immediate equipment charges sounds hella OP
outer spoke
They got rid of the wrench icons that said there would be a alternative skill there
undone crest
yea but i dont think that means they arnt gonna add any
warm venture
I'm aware, big sad
undone crest
that just wouldnt look good in a "finished" game
exotic heath
I only use the stun ones
undone crest
rip item logs tho
outer spoke
They probably will tbh
warm venture
I still want sniper 😭 I feel like they would've added sniper AND captain if she won the vote
exotic heath
On stage one.
undone crest
i also really wanted sniper
outer spoke
Sniper wouldn't have been fun to play solo
warm venture
why not
undone crest
idk i dont think it would be so bad
warm venture
I never played ror1 but I felt she'd be hella fun
I played the shit out of quake 20 years ago
quartz saffron
ror1 is fun
undone crest
get a few things that help with a mob and youre golden
warm venture
rail gun stronk
exotic heath
Sniper could either be super fun or not great at all.
undone crest
^^ yea i agree, he could be fun, but i also see ways he could be not so fun
but to be fair, i dont have fun playing most of the characters
warm venture
sniper's a lass isn't she? Anyway I agree, I'm a merc main
I kinda like huntress and captain now, but that's it
exotic heath
Because sniper is one of the slower paced survivors and RoR2 is faster then RoR1
hoary jetty
Yeah I would enjoy sniper, though I'm not sure it'd fit well in the game, might be hard to balance
warm venture
I can't stand survivors without mobility, captain is hard on monsoon first few stages I feel
just make her primary attack hella stronk, should be fun 4 shotting boss's
exotic heath
The stun abilities help a lot with the lack of mobility
undone crest
i really wish instead of tuning up the cast, there was more items
hoary jetty
Paladins has a similar problem, one of the snipers has a very high skill cap, so the top players are really strong with her but the lower 90% of players are useless with her lol
warm venture
I mean that's the same in all games with high skill cap champs / guns
undone crest
like yanno in the first game none of the character really have a ton of movement(not counting miner) but tons of items effect how you can move
hoary jetty
yeah but it's just such a different playstyle from other survivors
warm venture
that's why I loved awp'ing / using scope in promod/csgo, if you're a good awper you'll carry
undone crest
maybe instead of sniper reloading after everyshot, they got upgraded to a not bolt action rifle, and had to reload every few shots
and then the alt primary could be bolt action
fair carbon
Why would anyone want to snipe in a game like risk of rain 2,i don't get it
fair carbon
While you get ganked because you are scoped
undone crest
If YoU waNt To PlaY SniPeR JuSt uSe ReBar PunCher
exotic heath
Sniper never scoped in
undone crest
^ wouldnt need to scope
fair carbon
How do you zoom in 2d
undone crest
yea thats all that made sniper, sniper. that and the big dick damage
outer spoke
Sniper would need a scope and a headshot mechanic, these two things bring up a couple of issues, mainly the scope,
The scope would only be good at taking out long ranged enemies because at point blank range you wouldn't be using the scope,
The head shot mechanic brings up issues with the hit boxes of the monsters, mainly updating all of the hurt boxes and asking where would the head hitbox go on an monster like the Clay Dune Strider, wandering vagrant, etc
undone crest
i dont think sniper would need ether of those
old ledge
...I feel that the mystery survivor was locked in before the vote. They had that captain on the deck model for that cutscene prepared, they had to have. Either that, or we'd get another survivor and everyone would clamour for the dude on the ship's bridge to be next.
exotic heath
Sniper in RoR1 had a drone that would either double damage or give a garunteed crit on the greatest threat on screen
And sniper doesn't need a scope
undone crest
its not like any of the maps are big enough to warrent one
hoary jetty
Sniper could have increased damage but moves slower while scoped
old ledge
ironically commencement would be perfect sniper hunting grounds lol
outer spoke
I was just going off of what they said for sniper when the vote was going on
hoary jetty
so you could still use it close range if you're good at it
undone crest
maybe you could "ads" like in thrid person shooters where it zooms in the FOV a bit would work
exotic heath
Actually, sniper would translate very easy to RoR2
fair carbon
It's just a very boring concept for the pace of the game
undone crest
thats why i went with a semi auto rifle, so if they dont line upo and you cant kill more then one pershot, its not as big of a deal