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sudden saddle
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How does Clover + Purity work ?

ivory depot
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is that a challenge

subtle latch
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They roll against eachother.

rare heart
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I have a theory... ||if he takes transcendence, will he instantly get shielded or does he have to wait for it to charge?||

ivory depot
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ive heard someone say that he will regen from it

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so just dont stop hitting him ig

subtle latch
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He gets instashield like we do I think.

ivory depot
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ok so for the moon v moon run are there any other rules besides only lunar items?

rare heart
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Lunar only run? That sound interesting.

ivory depot
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like am i allowed to use artifacts

subtle latch
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I'd say so, since shaped glass is no longer busted.

autumn igloo
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Guys

ivory depot
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aight.

autumn igloo
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the mega drone on snow biome spawns on the easy dificulty?

ivory depot
rare heart
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I dunno... command kinda ruins the thrill, and sacrifice will prevent buds from spawning at all.

subtle latch
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With lunars only, you can 100% beat the final boss, since strides of heresy allow you to bridge the way back with no problem.

dull ingot
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steam items for ror2!

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that border's mighty fine, infini worm's great too. 😄

rare heart
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heavy judgment

ivory depot
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With lunars only, you can 100% beat the final boss, since strides of heresy allow you to bridge the way back with no problem.
wait why would strides help

subtle latch
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It will be harder because you can't get hopoo feathers.

rare heart
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"Can you not use the artifact of command..."
turns and looks at this community
"FOR FIVE MINUTES?"

ivory depot
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i need my shift on huntress to get back, so i cant take strides

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"Can you not use the artifact of command..."
turns and looks at this community
"FOR FIVE MINUTES?"
look man i just did a no artifacts no loop monsoon run like 15 minutes ago give me a break

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and by break i mean command

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no bazaar stage 1, this may be an issue...

subtle latch
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Can huntress make it back with no movement items? I'd guess so with chain blinks, especially with purity. Purity is the MVP if you can't get normal items.

autumn igloo
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Its only me or magma worm frame is kinda weird?

ivory depot
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Can huntress make it back with no movement items? I'd guess so with chain blinks, especially with purity. Purity is the MVP if you can't get normal items.
frick chain blink im going normal

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but yeah ill have to get a purity, maybe 2

rare heart
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Normal blink is death

ivory depot
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normal blink is my life

subtle latch
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Being able to spam balistas sure will be interesting.

autumn igloo
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I prefer the vertical mobility from the normal blink

ivory depot
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^ exactly

obtuse sphinx
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If someone uses Artifact of Dissonance, can Mithrix appear on normal maps?

rare heart
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I like how phase blink won't interrupt my movement or attacks at all.

thorn portal
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how do i get to the boss? im rex but i dont have any mobility items....everytime i kill my self i spawn at the lunar pod area....what the hell

heady bluff
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Phase blink is way good for dodging attacks in combat. Blink is nice for map traversal, newt shrine

rare heart
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Sorry... you are ded.

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That's a soft-lock.

thorn portal
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wtf

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2 hours for nothing...thanks

ivory depot
subtle latch
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Mithrix can't appear of normal maps, he's a special boss like aurelionite and AWU @obtuse sphinx

rare heart
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Last night I did a "quick" captain run before bed, and got soft-locked on comedy island.

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So stayed up until 5am for nothing.

subtle latch
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Comedy island GWbruhSquidWoke

ivory depot
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i havent got softlocked on it... yet.

obtuse sphinx
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Awu? thats the scavenger right?

ivory depot
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alloy worship unit

obtuse sphinx
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OH, right

ivory depot
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the scavenger is twisted scav

subtle latch
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But yeah, neither can the 4 twisted scavengers.

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However, the twisted scavengers aren't really unique monsters, and don't have logs. They're just special scavengers that spawn with lunar items.

obtuse sphinx
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About that softlock pod island. i almost got stuck there with the engineer my first run through. recorded it.

rare heart
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I managed to get off it with two hopoo feathers and transport mode, but I had to get far enough from it to not teleport back to it when I fell.

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While the timer was counting down...

thorn portal
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that soft lock is soooooo demotivating...

rare heart
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It is. Worse than the bullshit phase 4 hits you with.

ivory depot
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why does everyone think phase 4 is so unfair and difficult

feral otter
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Phase 4 is more cinematic than anything else.

ivory depot
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yeah basically

rare heart
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Because items ARE scaling, levels don't mean shit without them.

obtuse sphinx
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HEHE.... Phase 4 took me like... less than 5 seconds the first time i beat it.

subtle latch
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Because the average player gets stumped by phase 4 like Mr. Streamer did.

ivory depot
slender flume
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phase 4 is the second easiest phase

real ocean
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does permenent damage mean no passive regen or no regen at all
also does eclispse 8 award anything

ivory depot
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YES finally someone agrees with me

obtuse sphinx
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was using Loader, i just kinda... one punched him....

ivory depot
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does permenent damage mean no passive regen or no regen at all
also does eclispse 8 award anything
nope

slender flume
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the easiest is the second phase

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because the enemies are a joke in that zone

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they're just kinda tanky

ivory depot
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fourth is easier than second tbh

rare heart
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I was engineer at first, so my thing was sustained damage, not burst.

ivory depot
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like if you get hit by the orb attack, which is the only dangerous one, you probably deserve to die

slender flume
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nah.

rare heart
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And amplifying items effects... are kinda his thing.

obtuse sphinx
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hmm... wait... phase 4 is when he takes your items right? not the run back to the ship?

ivory depot
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yeah thats the item steal

obtuse sphinx
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just checking

slender flume
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i did a swarm command sac run and he one shot me

rare heart
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But yea, burst damage while ||he does the succ||

subtle latch
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At this point, just go do sacrifice at bulwark's embry, if it's not fixed, then it's intended game design.

ivory depot
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if you dont one shot him its easy
if you do its easy

rare heart
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Fuck a fair fight, fair fights wouldn't set off OSP with a single hit just because I don't have any mobility items or abilities.

upbeat adder
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best loadout for captain?

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I personally use hack and stun

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but idk

rare heart
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Hooves! You need more speed.

ivory depot
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energy drink > hooves

rare heart
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Oh, you mean beacons. They are largely inconsequential outside the teleporter event.

subtle latch
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You can't sprint while attacking with most survivors.

rare heart
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Both are nice, actually.

ivory depot
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You can't sprint while attacking with most survivors.
no i know but you dont need that much speed while attacking

slender flume
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i made a mistake trying to beat monsoon with the captain

heady bluff
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Energy drinks don't scale well because of how they stack

ivory depot
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i made a mistake trying to beat monsoon with the captain
pathetic yeah fair enough

slender flume
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i played swarm and got one shot in the 3rd phase

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2 of the explosions hit me at once

ivory depot
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dont play with swarm
ever

subtle latch
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I could literally put Mithrix in depression by having enough goat hooves and... a chronobauble.

muted spade
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not without sacrifice

slender flume
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im playing swarm

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its fun

ivory depot
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not without sacrifice
swarm with sac doesnt actually help

rare heart
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Avoid red whips like the plague though

subtle latch
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Does swarm affect Mithrix too?

ivory depot
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the drop is based on exp and guess what the exp is halved

subtle latch
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Swarm with sac actually helps a lot.

ivory depot
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you get the same stuff with twice the dmg dealt to you

slender flume
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and yes

rare heart
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I will gladly give up a minute or two just to walk back to the shredder to grind up my red whips the teleporter boss gave me.

subtle latch
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because of the floor on item drop chance in sacrifice.

slender flume
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swarm does affect mithrix

subtle latch
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Oh neptune.

slender flume
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that's why i got 1 shot

upbeat adder
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no achievement for beating the game on eclipse :(

obtuse sphinx
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i tend to build all my characters the same.

ivory depot
muted spade
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remember: the chance they drop stuff cannot reduce below 5%, and most of the enemies you fight, the small guys, have around 5% drop chance

subtle latch
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That's a lot of damage on phase 3.

heady bluff
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Supposedly hooves are better than energy drink past the first drink

muted spade
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D O I T

ivory depot
slender flume
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yeah, i had a glass and got hit by the spinning explosion thing from both of them

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they were synchronized

muted spade
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wait, you only have 4 gestures anyway

rare heart
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Well, functionally, you only get at most a 7% reduction in drop chance from a lot of enemies using swarm + sacrifice. So a boss might be reduced from 37% to 30%.

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But there's two of them...

subtle latch
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I guess we can call that results?

slender flume
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lmao

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speedy boi

rare heart
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Launch into space

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Just jump straight to the bossfight on the titanic plains.

slender flume
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btw, do scavengers only show up on the second loop?

limber cradle
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you wont be stuck on comedy island any time soon with those items

subtle latch
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I died by running into something after crashing through the universe and getting set to 1 hp.

ivory depot
rare heart
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Scavengers can show up any time, but their credit cost is insane so you probably won't see them until the third loop (or second with swarms active).

slender flume
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i got 2 on the second loop

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and only one dropped its b ag

rare heart
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And enemies that can spawn in a given stage is decided when the stage starts, so just camping out on titanic plains won't make them show up.

ivory depot
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the first one you kill drops the bag and only the first one per stage

slender flume
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damn

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that sucks

subtle latch
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Maybe 2 purities and something like the circles of power to boost your dps?

slender flume
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welp. im gonna go try something stupid

subtle latch
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Purity has 0 downsides when you can't take normal items.

slender flume
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but first

ivory depot
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circle of power what

rare heart
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Well... less logs. But other than that.

subtle latch
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mercury thingy.

ivory depot
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what

slender flume
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does anybody know if a right click build is viable on captain?

ivory depot
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does anybody know if a right click build is viable on captain?
@slender flume no

subtle latch
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Mercurial Rachis

slender flume
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damn, i wanted to try it

rare heart
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I think that's just random... unless placement is somehow decided by luck?

ivory depot
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yeah i got it

limber cradle
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has anyone else noticed the lunar coin farm potential with the good ol Gesture/Forgive Me Please/Soulbound Catalyst combo

rare heart
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I wish stacking that caused more circles to appear, it would be super-fun.

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You mean... crashing your game? I don't think the doll drops coins.

limber cradle
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it does

ivory depot
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it does

limber cradle
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and mul-T means no crash

heady bluff
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@limber cradle the chance of lunar coins dropping is halved for each one the game spawns tho, so it may get less effective over time

limber cradle
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yes but my Forgive Me Please exponentially multiply

rare heart
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Defiant Gouge looks like an upside though, since I can use those enemies it summons to pay for more chests in a shorter amount of time.

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But I guess I'm back to playing other games until they fix softlock island, at the very least. And fill out the heresy set so I can be the heretic. And fix captain up.

ivory depot
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yeah defiant is really good lel

heady bluff
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Defiant Gouge is similar to Focused Convergence imo

limber cradle
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how would you ever get stuck there if you know about it

heady bluff
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Good early game, can get you rekt late game

rare heart
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I knew about it, but I fell on the path and it decided to teleport me to comedy island.

ivory depot
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two more lunar items, these will be my last before moon. what should i take?

rare heart
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The game actively tries to put you there.

limber cradle
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glass x2

ivory depot
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no

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bad

limber cradle
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beads x 2

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glass x1 beads x1, then everyone is happy

ivory depot
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no

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bad

pale iris
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okay why does the stupid prototype drone stop existing the moment I have to look for it

dull ingot
rare heart
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Sacrifice if you want to cheese the unlock.

dull ingot
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someone help please

limber cradle
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lul

ivory depot
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is there a feather cauldron?

dull ingot
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pretty sure doll equip will drop items with sacrifice

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unfortunately no. I have clover and squid turrets

rare heart
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Removing chests helps more drones spawn.

dull ingot
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my first run of 1.0

rare heart
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But yea, owchie...

unreal solstice
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Right this friggin' Comedy Island stuff is ridiculous. My friend almost got stuck on that as Commando, I can't believe that's something that happens in the game.

People out here are saying that you can maybe jump far enough to respawn on the bridge...

ivory depot
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im gonna take two more merchials... theres not much left

dull ingot
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it respawns you here

rare heart
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If you can get on the lower platforms, you can get enough distance from the island to spawn somewhere else.

dull ingot
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ive spent 10 minutes unable to get back, and that time is just ticking the gametime

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i only got off of the island on my first run through due to being sniper class and backflipping against a slope to launch myself into the stratosphere

rare heart
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But with only a single hopoo feather... that aint happening.

dull ingot
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however because it took me 10+ minutes to get it right the boss was too hard and I died

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and ive gotten spoilers for the boss trying to figure out if this is legit or not

ivory depot
unreal solstice
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You can maybe run up the walls then? I can't really give much advice, the only way my friend got off afterward was by using Commando's tactical slide

dull ingot
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very very frustrated

ivory depot
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moon v moon run seems to have ended quite suddenly

rare heart
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Nice

ivory depot
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AGAIN

tropic birch
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I need some help

ivory depot
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maybe i sohuld get transcendence so i can actually recover hp

tropic birch
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Every time I play commando in 4 player monsoon I end up having a lot of trouble

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I don’t struggle to do damage really but staying alive is scary

dull ingot
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my take on commando is he is very item hungry early, to be impactful at all

subtle latch
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Why are they always overloading hordes?

ivory depot
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hes one of, if not the most item dependent character
but once hes got it...

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the univserse falls before him

raw sail
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commando needs items to live

dull ingot
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do artifacts need to be re-unlocked in eclipse or something?

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or can they just not be used at all

ivory depot
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no you just dont get artifacts

dull ingot
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sad
at least sacrifice-remix is still active I guess

rare heart
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Because it's a challenge run, using the "remove challenge" buttons removes the impact of it.

subtle latch
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I think Mul-T might be as much if not more item hungry than Commando with the nail gun.

raw sonnet
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So I’m currently doing an artifact for the first time, I started up a boss fight. But nothing has happened for about 5 minutes. I can’t damage the boss. What is happening

dull ingot
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i don't like chests

ivory depot
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suffer

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So I’m currently doing an artifact for the first time, I started up a boss fight. But nothing has happened for about 5 minutes. I can’t damage the boss. What is happening
take the key

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TAKE THE KEY

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TAKE THE KEY

raw sonnet
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I did. Then I activated it on the boss

dull ingot
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do it more

raw sonnet
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And then after that there were enemies spawning, and nothing else

raw sail
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GET THE KEY

rare heart
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MORE
MORE

subtle latch
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I want a S U F F E R button to do 15 artifacts monsoon eclipse 8. (15 because remove command, this is hell Joe.)

ivory depot
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kill the enemies, and than you will GET THE KEY

raw sonnet
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I have been. For 5 minutes

dull ingot
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new key will drop eventually

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it's possible you just didn't see it drop

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and it's behind something

raw sonnet
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I’ve been looking around. But I’ll look some more

oak sail
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aw I've died to mithrix stick bombs like 5 times in a row now

dull ingot
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and multiple keys can drop

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so just keep looking

raw sail
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i got slammed and wacked mid air by mithrix earlier today on a good run

modest talon
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how do i keep going over and over again

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i dont wanna go to the last stage how can i avoid that

rare heart
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You can re-align the teleporter back to the planet

subtle latch
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interract with the pillars of the teleporter

modest talon
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how do i do that

rare heart
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It probably should prompt you for that when you use it though...

subtle latch
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it will say "the teleporter is aligned with the planet"

modest talon
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on the 5th stage?

subtle latch
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yup.

rare heart
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It starts aligned with the moon. You have to re-orient it.

tiny grail
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captains ultimates could use a buff

cursive crest
subtle latch
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Jojo's a RoR reference.

frosty fjord
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Captain is my favorite streets of rogue character

modest talon
ivory depot
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yes, its pointed to loop

modest talon
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moon or planet

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which do i need to restart

ivory depot
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planet is loop, moon is finale

pale jay
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how do you re align the teleporter?

ivory depot
pale jay
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ah ok thanks

brittle jackal
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anyone got any idea what the proc coefficient on the captain's primary is

ivory depot
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aight so what should i take? im thinking that im gonna need some trans considering the fact that i have no ability to recover hp at all

radiant oar
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hey sorry, i got a question regarding how shotguns/shotgun-like weapons work. For items with a percentage to trigger, will each individual pellet of a shotgun have the proc coefficient or will the proc coefficient be based on the entire shot (so either some of the pellets might trigger an effect or all of them will)

near geyser
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the whole shot

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they all crit or none do

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not sure about other on hits if they're different from crit on his shotgun but I doubt it

brittle jackal
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pretty sure they're different, which is why i asked about the proc coefficient in the first place

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crit is all or nothing, but i get variable bleed stacks off of the shotgun

heady bluff
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@brittle jackal I believe each individual pellet gets a 1.0 proc, which makes it pretty good for stacking on-proc

brittle jackal
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i expect that to get nerfed to hell

heady bluff
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yeah it's pretty nuts

radiant oar
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and im assuming crits function a little differently, cause i know that for crits at least its either all the pellets crit or none do

heady bluff
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@radiant oar that's correct

radiant oar
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so how would crits and leeching seed apply to a characters attack who has a lower proc-coefficient (like MULTs nail gun)

heady bluff
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you can see this in most multi-shot characters where it's rolled once per discharge (flurry, phase blast, etc.)

ivory depot
zinc kernel
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wait nvm

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I thought it meant as in scrap launcher

heady bluff
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@radiant oar crit remains fixed at 10%, but the amount healed is scaled with proc coefficient. So instead of 8 heal on Harvesters_Scythe proc Mult-T gets 3.4

dull ingot
radiant oar
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interesting. im assuming that then applies to normal leeching seed as well?

deft breach
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is it me or does merc feel significantly weaker? any good combos to keep his downtime minimal?

red echo
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feels stronger to me tbh

dull ingot
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no merc was nerfed to hell and back

heady bluff
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@radiant oar yes. Other items are scaled differently, on a case by case basis. Some modify duration, radius, or % chance

deft breach
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i just feel like he has overall less cooldowns but if you mess up once you die

red echo
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that's pretty much it yeah

dull ingot
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increased attack speed decreases your flash travel distance

red echo
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dps is higher, survivability is down

dull ingot
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also it knocks back enemys a shit ton more

heady bluff
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@radiant oar Leeching_Seed would heal 0.4 instead of 1 on MULT

radiant oar
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ah i see

red echo
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but you can use that to your advantage because of merc's iframes

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he scales much better with attack speed now

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you can still animation cancel 3m1 with m2 but the timing is much tighter

old ledge
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less health, but exposed gives him even more iframes and his dash feels even BETTER now. I don't understand the slicing winds buff tho. You get something that enables you to do more damage with your next MELEE attack... on a 110hp character with no iframes?

deft breach
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it feels like his risk reward factor is skewed to be unfavorable

red echo
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slicing winds buff is insane

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i run it almost every game now

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legitimately so good

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you trade iframes for...more iframes and higher damage

deft breach
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slicing winds doesnt scale with attack speed like blinding assault does

ivory depot
radiant oar
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thanks @heady bluff Acrid_Meat

red echo
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see the thing is

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you can abuse the exposed debuff from slicing winds + your m1 combo to get slicing winds off cd almost instantly

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and in turn keep your m2 and shift off cd all the time

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if you juggle your cds well you get ridiculous damage + shift always off cd by midgame

heady bluff
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damn, new Merc meta it seems. People used to hate on slicing winds

old ledge
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so you just go fast instead of use eviscerate iframes

red echo
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shift has iframes too

old ledge
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less tho, but ye

red echo
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and you can get it off cd faster by bringing slicing winds

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just because slicing winds is ranged doesn't mean you have to use it at range

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a basic combo is to r > shift > m1 combo (this procs exposed and then reapplies it) > shift2 > m1 combo > shift3 > m1 combo > r > repeat

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you can throw in m2 at the end of your m1 combo but the timing is tighter than it used to be

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but if you get it right 3m1 hits just after m2, and your shift will proc exposed and reset m2 cd
@deft breach

ivory depot
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but yeah phase 3 for multiple minutes? im probably dead

old ledge
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Phase 3 is phase 1 with flame columns and i think a little faster?

red echo
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mithrix rush with only lunar items? i like it

ivory depot
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yeah the flame column spam is def gonna kill me

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its the moon v moon run

red echo
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tip for the columns

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it doesn't hit you if you're on the big pillars

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like with the ramps up to them

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just chill up there when he does it and ezpz

ivory depot
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yeah ik thats basically how im doing it

trail hollow
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D:

ivory depot
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guess thats the end of that

primal sapphire
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what do you guys like stacking on cap?

old ledge
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Bleeds. A single blast can leave a target losing hundreds of hp a tick.

ivory depot
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just get max crit and a shatterspllen

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or 8

old ledge
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Shatterspleen AND daggers.

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Two different debuffs. Death mark just got better!

ivory depot
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you think death mark was bad?

old ledge
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also if you can get a shattering justice, do so. Each blast will apply the armor shred.

ivory depot
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honestly frickin death mark is a bit broken if you stack it with command

drifting shore
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but everything is busted on command

ivory depot
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hmmmmm

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squid polyphs

heady bluff
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Ummm.... Death Mark doesn't stack @ivory depot just duration

drifting shore
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for command, i like voodoo d oll shenanigans, i can generate millions of gold and kill t he entire map without moving

earnest lotus
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has anypne beaten eclipse 1 yet

old ledge
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the boss taking your stuff is painful on normal runs but it's karma on command runs

subtle latch
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Corpsebloom build with Command ?!?

ivory depot
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Ummm.... Death Mark doesn't stack @ivory depot just duration
no one shall escape the mark of death
the mark of death lasts eternal

drifting shore
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in command runs, you can burst the boss down in seconds during the 4th phase

heady bluff
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lol stacking it is kinda underwhelming tbh. so many other good greens

limpid lintel
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i haven't even defeated the final boss yet. I have been trying though

ivory depot
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4th phase is so easy tho, you dont have to do the frickin instakill

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3rd phase is always the breaking point for me

subtle latch
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Many greens have lackluster stacking, but having one or two is godly.

primal sapphire
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how good is cap proc rate tho

limpid lintel
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there's a 4th phase

drifting shore
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how the hell is 3rd phase harder than 4th phase

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4th phase is 3rd phase except you have no items

ivory depot
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how the hell is 3rd phase harder than 4th phase
4th phase is patheticly easy

earnest lotus
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4 is the hardest for me

ivory depot
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4th phase he has... two attacks. a slow moving orb thing where you just... jump, and a minigun that can be dodged by moving in one direction, and deals low damage

earnest lotus
#

i mean it kills you instantly but sure

idle copper
#

chronobauble has best stacking of any green

drifting shore
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well yes but hes also got like ATGs and tesla coils

subtle latch
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4th phase is easy if you can dodge the balls. So... don't be MULT , I guess.

heady bluff
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@idle copper Chronobauble is op to be fair

ivory depot
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3rd phase hes jumping himself all over the map, spamming flames, and spawning chimeras

subtle latch
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Don't pick up tesla coils if you plan to fight Mithrix?

primal sapphire
#

engis turrets keep the items for max cheese

drifting shore
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pretty sure i blew up to my own kjaros
and iim not even sure how he managed to proc it

ivory depot
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why does everyone have to cheese 4th phase

idle copper
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because cheese

ivory depot
#

its more cinematic than anything

subtle latch
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If you don't get hit, you're okay.

earnest lotus
#

I cant get past phase 4 on eclipse but I get that far every time

drifting shore
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cuz the boss is pretty bullshit :v

dapper kelp
#

Yo anyone else getting a glitch where Gorag's Opus won't activate?

subtle latch
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but many are just as butterfingered when it comes to that phase as Mr. Streamer.

idle copper
#

yes zirman

ivory depot
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i survived a couple minutes on the moon v moon run against third phase
hes pretty crazy but it feels so sweet once you get his patterns and moveset down

dapper kelp
#

Hitting the button, and it makes the noise, but nothnig happens

thick ruin
#

how are you supposed to play new merc

idle copper
#

with captain, right

dapper kelp
#

Yeah

ivory depot
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as long as i have a bit of mobility hes fine

idle copper
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it's bugged

heady bluff
#

@thick ruin with slicing winds

dapper kelp
#

Oh. Fun. Another glitch. Why'd they rush this update so bad -_-

drifting shore
#

he just needs to be bigger with abit more telegraphs
hes a small little guy who dashes around, doing insta-damage, and just blows you up if u werent fortunate .__ .

i'd prolly be okay with that

ivory depot
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it was probably rushed by gearbox

dapper kelp
#

Yeah, most likely

ivory depot
#

the fire column spam needs to be nerfed tho, as currently the strategy is basically just sit in the spot where he physically cant hit you

dapper kelp
#

The whole "we gotta get the full release out by christmas or something blah blah blah marketing "

subtle latch
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He's a dark souls boss, except you're not in Dark Souls, you're on the moon.

ivory depot
#

the other attacks are pretty fine but man just nerf that column spam its near impossible to dodge normally

subtle latch
#

Yeah, the strat for phase 3 is literally "sit on one of the 3 slanted blocks and run him around it until his hp is gone."

ivory depot
#

nerf the column spam and itd be a more fun and fair fight

subtle latch
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And if the columns hit you, your mobility goes to heck and you die because you can't adapt to it.

drifting shore
#

ive been quite fortunate as to never having been hit by the column spam
and all ireally do is move to side, its liek a game of roulette

ivory depot
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yep.

subtle latch
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That's why so many die at phase 4, they are unable to adapt to no longer having their hooves, feathers and stuff.

ivory depot
#

thats possible to do but it so suddenly switches from "stay in the air to live" to "if you arent on the ground to quickly adapt you die"

thorny sorrel
#

Am i just spheshul or is "A glacier eventually farts" different between the in game and soundtrack version?

subtle latch
#

If you have the habitude of playing item-less, phase 4 is a breeze, he's no more dangerous than a magma worm that is agro'd on a drone.

ivory depot
#

the thing is once you realize how weak he actually is hes nothing

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its a facade

night turret
#

@thorny sorrel Yeah I think so too

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There's not that monologue in the middle (that I hate)

subtle latch
#

You just need to remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer, AKA don't go in his face as soon as he yoinks your items.

ivory depot
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aka dont play loader

thorny sorrel
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i wish it didn't have the voice clip yeah

dawn hatch
#

My first Mithrix kill was a rush Loader game.

subtle latch
#

Loader's alt shift.

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be like : Your hp is gone.

ivory depot
#

yeah my first mithrix attempt was also a loader command rush

night turret
#

I personally can't stand her auto-release punch

ivory depot
#

i got one shot on the first phase because i didnt expect the final boss to be actually difficult

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boi was i wrong

dawn hatch
#

Yeah, first two times he got me by surprise.

ivory depot
#

second time i came in prepared, and ran a commando command run.

subtle latch
#

On Monsoon, Mithrix is just one-hit wonder.

ivory depot
#

that was my first win

dawn hatch
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First one from his damage, second from panicking during phase 4.

ivory depot
#

than i got a second win on captain for his alt skin

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i used command for that one too

dawn hatch
#

Now I feel I have a decent grasp on how to approach the fight.

ivory depot
subtle latch
#

That;s a lot of items for a no loop.

ivory depot
#

i did do void

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also i got a surprsiing amount of chests quickly using defiant, its so good

subtle latch
#

Idk why some people don't do void, unless they're speedrunning.

dawn hatch
#

Void can be kind of stale if you're just doing a quick game.

drifting shore
#

its time consuming GWvertiPeepoSadMan

ivory depot
#

i would actually be dead if i didnt do void
but than again i almost died in void lel

heady bluff
#

They should rework Void. Takes bloody forever

dawn hatch
#

Nowadays I only do Void if I am trying for an achievement.

drifting shore
#

its such a time sink just to attempt the final boss, thats kinda upsetting too

ivory depot
#

but i had a dio from void

heady bluff
#

Not a very fun environment imo

subtle latch
#

Void is easy reds.

drifting shore
#

im not saying its hard

vivid pier
#

what should i stack as captain

drifting shore
#

its just... i wanna fight me some moon man

heady bluff
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@vivid pier syringes, and kek

vivid pier
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kek?

drifting shore
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syringes and laugh ur way to the bank

heady bluff
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@vivid pier kek is a new item for captain

dawn hatch
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I kind of wish after the first time you'd just spawn at the end of the bridge instead of walking around the whole area. It is atmospheric and impressive the first time, but it is a long haul otherwise.

vivid pier
#

oh?
\

subtle latch
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Just stack command artifacts 😉

dawn hatch
#

Also has anyone figured out a way to get more of Kek other than fighting your Doppelganger?

ivory depot
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nope
also thats the only way to actually get the log

heady bluff
#

@dawn hatch yes, GestureOfTheDrowned + Crowdfunder

ivory depot
vivid pier
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what rarity is Kek

ivory depot
#

red

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yeah its kinda op

vivid pier
#

what does it do

random reef
#

Who here knows when the switch update will come out

drifting shore
#

howd nanomachines get abbreviated to kek

subtle latch
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Kill enemy shots.

ivory depot
#

thats kes not kek

drifting shore
#

owo

subtle latch
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Turn elder lemurians into a joke.

heady bluff
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^^^

drifting shore
#

okay, how nanomachines get abbreviated to kes

dawn hatch
#

By the way, is the Captain's M2 as useless as I feel it is?

drifting shore
#

its good on stage 1 when thers a mean golem ready to shoot you

heady bluff
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@dawn hatch it's pretty useless

ivory depot
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friendly reminder that it stacks with attack speed which is why you need 50 syringes even more than normal

dull ingot
#

109775240987455036 VC 2 hosting NA

dawn hatch
#

His shift is good at least.

ivory depot
#

yeah the shift is really good

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the r is pretty fun and unique but you stop using them after like 4 stages

dawn hatch
#

And his M1 feels really good to use, Hopoo did a great work with that gunfeel.

dull ingot
#

wait this isnt lfg-pc

ivory depot
#

and the m2 is just absolute garbage

heady bluff
#

bruh. hack some chests 🌰

dawn hatch
#

How's the meta and criticism evolving on the captain's R, by the way?

ivory depot
#

besides hack

heady bluff
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it's nuts

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(hack is broken)

ivory depot
#

yeah

subtle latch
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Do scrappers appear on command runs?

ivory depot
#

i dont think so

drifting shore
#

i stopped using hack after stage 4 as well
idk, is it just me or does it seem like.. gold is easier to come by after the balance changes..

dawn hatch
#

Is it better to bring two Hacks or to do Hack + Heal?

subtle latch
#

Can you get KEK with command?

ivory depot
#

i like hack+heal better

drifting shore
#

i just didnt need to hack chests cuz i was getting enough money killing stuff

ivory depot
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no, no kek from command

heady bluff
#

@dawn hatch personal preference really. Long game is better with heal since gold gets easier late game

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Kek is only a drop, no command sir

dawn hatch
#

I am liking Hack because it makes me feel like the Gold Key from 1 is back.

subtle latch
#

If you have command and get get KEK from your dopple, can you turn it into another red?

ivory depot
#

yeah money is pretty easy to get now if you get defiant

drifting shore
#

i dont understand why its called kek GWslippyPeepoH

dawn hatch
#

Or rather, Skeleton Key.

ivory depot
#

defiant + shrines of chance basically means you can just keep using them at no cost

heady bluff
#

@subtle latch you can, but you'd be shamed for passing on the OP red

ivory depot
#

i dont understand why its called kek :GWslippyPeepoH:
yeah i dont either just roll with it

drifting shore
#

i dont like it ;v

dawn hatch
#

What is Defiant?

drifting shore
#

a new lunar item

subtle latch
#

Lunar

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Defiant gouge

ivory depot
#

the second best lunar in the game

dawn hatch
#

What does it?

ivory depot
#

first being gesture

subtle latch
#

What is the first?

dawn hatch
#

And is it the one you get for Monsooning Mithrix?

subtle latch
#

Oh, obviously.

drifting shore
#

purity

ivory depot
#

And is it the one you get for Monsooning Mithrix?
purity, reduces all cds by 2 seconds but reduces luck

subtle latch
#

Luck, as in a reverse clover.

dawn hatch
#

Oh, that's... Neat.

modest talon
#

can anyone give me a save file for the commando skills

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i just tried 3 hours still cant get the shotgun skill its too much RNG

ivory depot
#

just do a million mountain shrines

dawn hatch
#

What does Defiant Gauge do? Don't think I've dropped it yet.

ivory depot
#

i would know

subtle latch
#

Activates a combat shrine whenever you activate any shrine

heady bluff
#

only thing that's acceptable to turn Kek into with command is Shatterspleen

drifting shore
#

defiant gouge just spawns enemies when u itneract with a shrine

ivory depot
#

only thing that's acceptable to turn Kek into with command is Shatterspleen
uh
thats not how it works

drifting shore
#

so u can kill em for cash to shove back into the chance shrine

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to spawn more enemies.. repeat cycle..

subtle latch
#

only thing that's acceptable to turn Kek into with command is Shatterspleen
Not how mafia works.

drifting shore
#

hows commando in <current year>
i havent played him ever since i unlocked... literally anybody else

heady bluff
#

commando still bad

drifting shore
#

oh okay

ivory depot
#

hes probably my third favorite character but a lot of people hate him

lunar dust
#

laughs in huntress onetrick

subtle latch
#

Commando is bonkers if you get him rolling.

heady bluff
#

no damage, phase round is still 💩 , bad mobility skill, grenades useless for flyers and hard to aim

subtle latch
#

Like, Mul-T levels of "Gimme enough procs and I'll shred this universe to its last atom.

heady bluff
#

@subtle latch every character is bonkers if you get them rolling 🤷‍♂️

ivory depot
#

thats why i never use phase round and grenades
and also cmon the rocket slide is so much frickin fun

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its actually really good

hard cargo
#

Getting more then 2 gouges is death

heady bluff
#

Slide is cool, phase blast is 👌 , default R is fine. Still difficulty with clearing mobs (and single target dmg without items)

subtle latch
#

Who doesn't use rocket slide?

ivory depot
#

absolute bufoons

heady bluff
#

people who main commando are the real heroes

subtle latch
#

Use phase blast and slide bruh. If you use phase rounds, that's why your commando is bad.

ivory depot
#

hes not my main but hes one of my favorites

heady bluff
#

lol why did they give commando two useless skills

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give him some love

#

at least buff phase rounds to stun, or increase its width or something. Maybe even some Ukulele -like procs would be cool

subtle latch
#

I don't really main Engineer, I just like the colour of the name. I play every character (Except Rex, still unable to use his shift for mobility)

sturdy oracle
#

why does mercenary crash the game

ivory depot
#

he what

sturdy oracle
#

mercenary shits the bed 70% of the time mid game

subtle latch
#

Mercenary what?

sturdy oracle
#

the game litterally crashes

ivory depot
#

aight than

subtle latch
#

What are you doing with your mercenary? Mods?

sturdy oracle
#

no mods base game

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i get a unity crash

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every time it happends

ivory depot
#

ok so anyone else have any have any other challenges? ill try moon v moon more later, its def doable i just gotta get through phase 3

sturdy oracle
#

just had my file corrupt earlier too when after unlocking the captain so im just done playing till the game gets patched

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wanted to know if anyone else is having issues

ivory depot
#

ah that sucks

subtle latch
#

Chaos artifact, but you must use the enemies to kill eachother would have been fun, but flying bosses would take ages to kill.

upbeat panther
#

ok so anyone else have any have any other challenges? ill try moon v moon more later, its def doable i just gotta get through phase 3
just this one

ivory depot
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Chaos artifact, but you must use the enemies to kill eachother would have been fun, but flying bosses would take ages to kill.
phase one mithrix 😦

sturdy oracle
#

i saw the reddit post about it lol

drifting shore
#

well uuuh, cool wallpaper

ivory depot
#

yeahhhh

drifting shore
#

very.. abstract

ivory depot
#

less than 5 minutes held = almost 5k uses

subtle latch
ivory depot
#

ye

heady bluff
#

FMP is pretty balanced imo

drifting shore
#

voodoo is my favorite new item

heady bluff
#

just get it with souldbound

ivory depot
#

its pretty balanced as long as you dont take soulbounds

drifting shore
#

soulbound voodoos are my jam
friendship with tonic over

ivory depot
#

ah man frick you my tonic addiction will never end

heady bluff
#

Soulbound_Catalyst + 🎎 = balance

drifting shore
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ghor and voodoos GWseremePeepoHappy

subtle latch
#

BALANCE COULDN'T BE ENFORCED

undone fiber
#

I didn't even think about ghor and voodoo

buoyant thicket
#

I feel like chronobauble has gotten even worse since now, if Mithrix takes your items then you’re pretty much screwed when chronobauble procs

drifting shore
#

i love that shit, i was immensely wealthy

subtle latch
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Chronobauble is insane when used both against and by Mithrix XD

heady bluff
#

@buoyant thicket just had to proc that deathmark, didn't you

ivory depot
#

I feel like chronobauble has gotten even worse since now, if Mithrix takes your items then you’re pretty much screwed when chronobauble procs
proof chronobauble is godtier
as long as mithrix is the one who has it

drifting shore
#

i once had a run where the game gave me 4 chronobaubers, it was mildly upsetting

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twas basically all my greens

undone fiber
#

lul

heady bluff
#

why would that upset you

ivory depot
#

friendly reminder that the last run i did before 1.0 ended in me getting chronobaubles from an order shrine

subtle latch
#

You need to embrace nihilism to unlock Chronobauble 's true potential.

buoyant thicket
#

on one of my runs I did double mountain shrine and I got chronobauble

heady bluff
#

4x Chronobauble + deathmark = gg

ivory depot
#

uh

undone fiber
#

115 baubles LMAO

ivory depot
#

thats not how mafia works

buoyant thicket
#

not how it works

drifting shore
#

i do think u need 4 unique debuffs

buoyant thicket
#

you do

ivory depot
#

yeah its 4 unique debuffs
and also 4 baubles isnt 4 debuffs, its just one longer debuff

heady bluff
#

is trolling

buoyant thicket
#

ok...

subtle latch
#

The first run I did in Artifacts 2.0, hours after the release, I got the "Spectral circlet". Possibly the first one to get my hands on the worst aspect of all. Quite the achievement.

heady bluff
#

it'd be cool if baubles slowed attack speed

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then it might actually be good

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@subtle latch p sure worst aspect is silence

ivory depot
#

The first run I did in Artifacts 2.0, hours after the release, I got the "Spectral circlet". Possibly the first one to get my hands on the worst aspect of all. Quite the achievement.
theyve been around a long time before that, but probably not. so yeah that sucks lel

opaque tapir
#

is there something i did to spawn in 2 final bosses instead of just 1?

ivory depot
#

have swarms?

subtle latch
#

Silence is a 50% increase to all damage, right?

heady bluff
#

50% shields tho. Kiss your OSP goodbye

dull ingot
#

Are console prismatic trials the same as PC?

subtle latch
#

theyve been around a long time before that, but probably not. so yeah that sucks lel
But the celestial elite equipment was only data-minable, it wasn't obtainable in-game before Artifacts 2.0

ivory depot
#

no im pretty sure it was there, just missing a sprite

heady bluff
#

oh interesting, didn't know that

ivory depot
#

ok so i got a terrible challenge idea

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rex
but its all the skills that consume health, and i cant use my m1.

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monsoon ofc.

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and ill probably use command otherwise this will be too painful

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im not that good

buoyant thicket
#

no command

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u won’t!! no balls!!

ivory depot
#

why you bully me

#

you know what fine ill do it just to spite you

#

uh oh so i just realized

#

im getting diminishing return from this

#

uh oh

lunar dust
ivory depot
#

why tho

lunar dust
#

idk

#

my sleep-deprived rant after i posted the end screen is comedy gold tho 💀

ivory depot
#

i wish i had my stats from my original 74 stage run

#

but the game crashed.

plush river
#

Where can I ask a question relating to the animated stickers? The stickers are fine and look great, but when I mouse over them, they get larger and get cut off. (What it looks like when I mouse over the Commando Sticker)

#

How do I fix this issue?

lunar dust
#

i wish i had my stats from my original 74 stage run
@ivory depot
im sorry how many?

ivory depot
tacit pelican
#

Going for the final boss playing eclipse is not recommended, correct?

ivory depot
#

im pretty sure you have to to unlock the next eclipse

subtle latch
tacit pelican
#

Yeah, but obliterating seems just

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easier

ivory depot
#

it was drizzle cause i never intended go this far

#

i meant to end it around stage 20-30 at an order shrine

lunar dust
#

yo how'd you fucking NEGATIVE HEALTH AND OVER A BILLION GOLD

ivory depot
#

as preartifacts i did those kinda runs for fun

heady bluff
#

lol Command Chaos Swarms Sacrifice = Drizzle

subtle latch
#

Nobody expects to spend nearly 300 minutes in a game.

lunar dust
#

that qualifies as a cursed image

ivory depot
#

yo how'd you fucking NEGATIVE HEALTH AND OVER A BILLION GOLD
@lunar dust who needs positive amounts of gold

subtle latch
#

Chaos is the one thing in this game that can scare me.

ivory depot
lunar dust
#

fam what the Fuck™️

#

thats a shit ton of reds too 👀

ivory depot
#

the power attained was limitless
none could stand in my way

tacit pelican
#

Ok so this run is about to break

ivory depot
#

except the awu from that stage 72 ss, it literally turned invincible

#

i dont know why but it did

lunar dust
#

oof

ivory depot
#

so i just let it be lel

tacit pelican
subtle latch
#

I remember there was some person who spent literally 7 days at stage 1 as Acrid.

tacit pelican
#

I am about to become so strong

ivory depot
#

two stages later it crashed, and i dont have the stats sadly

lunar dust
#

im sorry they spent how long at what

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and WHY

sonic sonnet
#

is the equipment beacon on captain any good?

ivory depot
#

no

lunar dust
#

depends on ur equip/ur teammates' equip tbh

dawn hatch
#

Can be, depending on your item. Like if you have a Preon.

sonic sonnet
#

yea I figured

ivory depot
#

no

dawn hatch
#

It is very situational and something you can't plan for unless you're using Command

sonic sonnet
#

weird how hard it is to get it though

primal sapphire
#

how does it work

dawn hatch
#

And then you can just get Fuel Cells.

#

It is three reloads of any equipment.

sonic sonnet
#

how about the hacking one then?

ivory depot
#

its pretty good

drifting shore
#

its better

heady bluff
#

hacking one is busted because of abyssal depths legendary chest

sonic sonnet
#

yea thats what I used it for

ivory depot
#

and you can hack a tc drone lel

drifting shore
#

that doesnt come up all that often tho GWvertiPeepoSadMan

sonic sonnet
#

and the tc 280

dawn hatch
#

Can it hack Teleporters?

ivory depot
#

what

#

it... makes things free

dawn hatch
#

Sorry, not teleporters, shrines.

heady bluff
#

@ivory depot hack equipment drone Monsoon run good as done

ivory depot
#

yes, shrine of chances

lunar dust
#

my friend stole my abyssal legendary because I called dibs in vc and forgot to unmute my mic

supple widget
#

i'm so salty that the captain's satelites dont press the stage 2 buttons, ended up being a waste

lunar dust
#

immense F in chat for me, lads

sonic sonnet
#

I use it in the beginning of the run on big chests too

dawn hatch
#

Damn, it hacking Shrines of Chance sounds like a big mood.

ivory depot
#

yeah it makes ALL uses free

sonic sonnet
#

oh

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thats nuts

heady bluff
#

yeah shrines of chance are 🤑 with captain

ivory depot
#

so you are just guarenteed to get two items, free of charge

sonic sonnet
#

didnt know about shrines ima do that now

ivory depot
#

yeah its so good

sonic sonnet
#

captain was a little weird to get used too for me but once you get bleeds and more on hits he is stupid

heady bluff
#

stack syringes and on hits and you're good

drifting shore
#

..... i can hack a shrine of chance?

#

excuse me

ivory depot
#

thats just what we said

heady bluff
#

@drifting shore yes. not even playin'

drifting shore
#

okay that changes everything

heady bluff
#

Soooo good

sonic sonnet
#

whats the strat the two hackers or like a 1 hacker and a stun/heal?

heady bluff
#

generally it's either 2 hack or hack/heal

sonic sonnet
#

gotcha ty

ivory depot
#

yeah

dull ingot
#

The heal beacon is the same as bungus

And why would you want bungus on anyone that's not engie

ivory depot
#

ok so after some testing for my rex no m1 (all health draining skills) run ive found that the m2 is the hardest to pull an equal amount of health, shift is easiest, and the r is only worth it if you catch a lot of enemies

#

aight so i finally beat hte first tp boss after like 2 and a half minutes

#

this is gonna be a fun run, isnt it

heady bluff
#

Bungus is op. Stand there and tank hits on monsoon thanks to OSP

#

works for any survivor, just try it

drifting shore
#

so how much bungus does it take to achieve trhat

ivory depot
drifting shore
#

;l

primal sapphire
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is stun pillar able to proc from zapping

drifting shore
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yall got order shrined?

heady bluff
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@ivory depot understands the bungus combo

drifting shore
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i mislicked once and it gave me 200 tougher times

ivory depot
drifting shore
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yeah that looks about right

ivory depot
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i have so many screenshots

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engie bungus bragging? prove commando is the bungus god

drifting shore
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however, i also had like.. 70 qax quils
which means i could no longer sprint jump

ivory depot
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i have a video of me with 250 sprint drinks

drifting shore
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that sounds more manageable than the wax birdies tho

ivory depot
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yeah its actually pretty fun

storm sand
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Just had a run ended by going 2 fast on sand and ending up outside of the map...I'm so sangry

ivory depot
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thats... a good idea
i should try that sometime

dull ingot
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yep wetlands has no skybox reset so u can go over the outside where it doesn't reset you

ivory depot
dull ingot
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and u will fall forever as your character is slowly morphed into a graphical abomination

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tearing apart the fabric of reality

elfin hawk
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Question: If I were to go to ||the Cauldron Island on the last level as Captain||, would I be able to get back?

I don't have any mobility items, really. Some movespeed ones.

dull ingot
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I know because I did it once. This was commando about 30 minutes in.

ivory depot
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Question: If I were to go to ||the Cauldron Island on the last level as Captain||, would I be able to get back?

I don't have any mobility items, really. Some movespeed ones.
from the sounds of it you wont be leaving the softlock island

dull ingot
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1 hour 30 minutes he was no longer visible

ivory depot
tender plover
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anyone notice a rally low per-hit damage cap on mithrax? I was hitting for like 1-2% of his HP with a fully charged punch as loader, but a single flame tornado shredded him for way more. Seems... real bad for single hit damage characters

dull ingot
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my record is 650,000 hp

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stacking shield gen / infusion / transcendence on MUL-T

proven delta
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so, uh...I jumped over to the item island on the final level, is there no way back?

dull ingot
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another victim

ivory depot
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what kind of items do you have or are available in the cauldrons

proven delta
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nothing for mobility

ivory depot
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character?

dull ingot
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over

proven delta
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MUL-T

ivory depot
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yeah its over

dull ingot
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lol

ivory depot
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im sorry little one

dull ingot
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comedy island 1, @proven delta 0

heady bluff
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@proven delta you picked up Purity didn't you

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the -luck just killed you on comedy island

sullen sable
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what is the locked enemy?

proven delta
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w h e l p

ivory depot
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mithrix

sullen sable
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I've killed mithrix

ivory depot
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his log aint guarenteed

sullen sable
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it's still locked

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It doesn't matter

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it wouldn't be locked

proven delta
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I didn't kill Mithrix and I have his log, which is weird

sullen sable
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It would be blacked out

ivory depot
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i think its glitched cause i got it, and it says i havent killed him at all

proven delta
ivory depot
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and it says ive never killed him

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this run does not mix well with clay templars

warm rune
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Yoooooo who was gonna tell me that the Commando alt skin is actually sleek af

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Side note, of all the masteries I've done, Commando's was by far the god-damn hardest

ivory depot
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artifacts or no? without its truely a triumph lel

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it took me quite a while to get it myself

warm rune
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I used sacrifice and command, yeah

ivory depot
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ah.

warm rune
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I am scum, this is true

idle copper
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which masteries have you done thus far

warm rune
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All my roles

ivory depot
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nice.

fading socket
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I've gotten close with huntress a couple times without the aid of artifacts, but I died on stage 8 and stage 7 a couple times

idle copper
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how was it harder than artificer lmao

warm rune
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Com, Engi, Arti, Merc, Cap

fading socket
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truly heartbreaking

warm rune
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I had all the skills for Arti, her secondary skills are so damn powerful

ivory depot
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i have never been a fan of arti

idle copper
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ah yeah, plasma bolt, definitely powerful

warm rune
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Especially nanospear

woven pivot
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i only have like 4 skins including captain, but most of them were before artifacts

ivory depot
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i managed to get all the skins before artifacts, but man was it a challenge

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some characters it was a breeze

warm rune
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I have huge respect for the people that did it without artifacts, ngl, I just don't have the time or sanity for that lmao

woven pivot
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commando merc and artificer though i'm not sure how i got artificer

fading socket
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I use all default with Arti when I do use her, the bomb buffs are nice and it feels more fun to me than the spear

ivory depot
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others was pure hell

warm rune
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Spear pierces and freezes tho, it's so useful

woven pivot
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the bomb is splash damage right?

fading socket
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I used artifacts for some other achievements, but my pride tells me that I gotta earn the skins

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yeah bomb is aoe

warm rune
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Yeah, but her alt 1st is the same thing just smaller and more of them

ivory depot
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artifacts make a lot of the achievements so much more bearable

fading socket
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and freshly buffed, at that

woven pivot
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does that mean that near the edge of nanobomb's explosion enemies will take less damage

idle copper
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i mean, if you wanna flex

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do eclipse, it's artifact-less

ivory depot
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im not gonna touch eclipse with a ten foot pole

fading socket
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see I can hardly handle normal Monsoon at the moment

ivory depot
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ill do stupid challenge runs instead

idle copper
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personally i like running the standard easy mode artifacts + vengeance and evolution

woven pivot
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me neither lol i'm not good at the game but command + sacrifice make monsoon bearable

ivory depot
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vengeance is by far my favorite artifact, especially with command

fading socket
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I wonder if Woolie is gonna do Eclipse (8) challenge videos

ivory depot
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you have to balance your build perfectly, too much defense and the doppleganger is an unkillable foe, slowly whittling you down. too much offense and the doppleganger will one shot you

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it just felt so... perfect

woven pivot
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oh god

ivory depot
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but like dang the captain doppleganger is op cause the microbot

drifting shore
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really? i thought doppleganger one shots you regardless so its always just best to have all t he damages

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.,.. actually nvm

woven pivot
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how do you go about fighting the doppelganger

drifting shore
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im being dumb ;v

ivory depot
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he deletes your shift, he deletes your m2, he deletes A PREON SHOT

fading socket
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I don't think I've even unlocked vengance yet...

gloomy totem
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I haven't unlocked captain yet what's he like?

ivory depot
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fun

fading socket
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honestly I feel like fungus is conditionally usable on captain because of the microbots

heady bluff
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@woven pivot by not picking up genesis loop

gloomy totem
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That's good

fading socket
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no mobility, but he does an assload of damage

woven pivot
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build crits + shatter spleen and shit pants

warm rune
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I was underwhelmed at first but he's actually pretty decent

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Just took a little while to get the hang of

woven pivot
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he might be up there as one of my favoriter characters

warm rune
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He's definitely very fun

fading socket
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the microbots kinda make the lack of mobility bearable from a defensive standpoint

ivory depot
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man if you take mult double scrap launcher you can just skip reloads by using the retool
i may have to do a mult double scrap launcher run

woven pivot
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i think it would be merc, commando/captain

but merc's stats got nerfed so hard

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wow i wanna try that

fading socket
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yeah, the regen nerf especially, I'd say

ivory depot
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my favorites are probably loader, commando, huntress, and now captain lel

woven pivot
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they did NOT need to make merc commando with a sword

heady bluff
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idk, I like the new merc

errant yew
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idk if i like the merc rework. i cant really use my "send it" mentality since i just get killed

woven pivot
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i love the expose debuff

heady bluff
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feels less brainless, harder to chain skills but more dmg

woven pivot
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the expose debuff synergizes quite nicely with evis

heady bluff
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and slicing winds is finally good

warm rune
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Anyway I'ma turn in for the night, cya!

ivory depot
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feels less brainless, harder to chain skills but more dmg
that was pretty much their intention but now its more just "you mistimed a dash? there goes half your hp and your never getting that back unless you have heals!"

woven pivot
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you could also get 5 stacks of Purity and break your r key

fading socket
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my absolute fav is huntress, mainly due to the mobility and the consistency

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I've had literally one run as captain and it ended up being a god run so maybe this is bias but I like him too

ivory depot
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huntress is fun if you want a fair run that feels like a good fight
loader is who i want when i want a fun run, be it the mobility or the pure destruction

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captain is quite fun tbh

fading socket
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I just can't get into the right rhythm with Loader tbh

ivory depot
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i just think maybe swap the shift and m2 and just... give him some mobility

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it doesnt havent to be much
just something

heady bluff
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huntress is nice because you can just sprint around and spam glaives and blink and win

fading socket
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yeah exactly

heady bluff
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vs commando where killing a few whisps feels agonizing lol

fierce basin
heady bluff
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glaives just evaporate wisps

fading socket
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eh i kinda like commando with his alternate secondary

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and the slide

ivory depot
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yeah commando with slide and alt m2 is pretty fun'

fading socket
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I just kinda like doing the jump tech tbh

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and they actually made it easier too

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now you don't need to hit the sprint key again when you jump

woven pivot
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you know i like that command lets you pick your items so you can do lots of silly shit but there's something nice about randomly receiving items that are all pretty good save like chronobauble

fading socket
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as for captain, I love his primary fire
feels almost cathartic

woven pivot
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i feel like when you play command and say "i'ma build crits" you trap yourself in a build with no defense mobility or healing

fading socket
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and yeah that happened on my first captain run lol

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i distinctly remember being on Rallypoint Delta and thinking, "huh, I have like 5 crit goggles and 2 predatory instincts, a scythe would be nice" and then I got one like a minute later

fringe burrow
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It finally happened. Enough of my friends own the game that I can reliably do a 4 person run.

woven pivot
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but then there's those moments when you have 9 glasses, scythe, and predatory instincts and you get another pair or glasses

fading socket
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yeah I think I had like 12 pairs by the time I died on the same run

fringe burrow
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Also, the Captain is Kinda beastly. I dunno if he has higher DT than most, but it feels like he can tank some serious hits that normally only Loader and Engi can.

woven pivot
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he needs it honestly
he has ZERO mobility skills lmao

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actually speaking of captain
what exactly does that equipment resetting beacon do? does it reset equipment ONCE per deployment?

fading socket
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strange, he has the same health stats as Arti and Merc

heady bluff
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Captain is tanky because of his passive

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shoots down projectiles. The new kek red

woven pivot
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it's a really good passive

fading socket
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oh, yeah, kinda forgot about that lol

woven pivot
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are you a lizard dog thing?

fading socket
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for some reason Acrid always reminded me of a dog more than a lizard

wild hill
#

A good ailen puppy. Yup

woven pivot
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acrid in risk of rain 1 is just boost the fuck outta attack speed and BITE and let the stacking poison do its job

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he be chomping

glad ember
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what is the best items to get on captain

coral geyser
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Hey guys, my friend has a question
we were playing together (just us), and I got DC'd due to bad internet
I warned him about all of ||mithrix's|| tricks before he went into the fight, but he died on ||phase 4||
he's super angry about it and has asked me to ask this on his behalf
||is mithrix in final form supposed to do 1,300+ damage in one hit when youre right next to him and he does the left fist smash into the ground attack when on drizzle difficulty||

ivory depot
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smash on the ground? thats not a final phase attack...

fading socket
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the fist smash sends out a bunch of projectiles

ivory depot
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oh wait the orb attack

fading socket
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sounds like your friend got shotgunned hard

ivory depot
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he mustve been hit by all 8 orbs spawning on him at once

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and thats why you never get close to mithrix

fading socket
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yeah just zone him out

coral geyser
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he got one shot

ivory depot
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more great reasons to never get close to mithrix

coral geyser
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he's using profanity

ivory depot
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he wouldnt get one shot due to osp, he got 8 shot.
all 8 shots just hit him at once

fading socket
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well, didn't they make it so that there's a linger to OSP?

coral geyser
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for multihits specifically, yeah
and same-frame damage

magic burrow
fading socket
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looking good

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the Dio's and the N'khuana's especially

magic burrow
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cool. new profile, so I don't have a lot of other items unlocked.

fading socket
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I'd recommend building some crit tho

magic burrow
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I would, but no scythe or predatory instinct to make good use, so I think I might stack syringes and daggers

fading socket
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oh, actually, come to think of it, do the turrets also get their own totems from that lunar item?

magic burrow
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that lunar item I picked up to see what it was, apparently it also powers up enemies lol

fading skiff
fading socket
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yeah, but you can still just double your damage output by getting 10 pairs of glasses

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another has fallen victim to Soup Island

magic burrow
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@fading skiff sorry, you might be just stuck. it's a design flaw.

coral geyser
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@fading skiff that's p much a bug at this point

fading skiff
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well, there it goes my run, 😦

magic burrow
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wait

fading socket
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jump towards the main road and pray pretty much

magic burrow
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you have wax quail. Try running and jumping as far as you can, you may get teleported back close to where you want

fading skiff
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should i sacrifice my crits and teddy for more waxs?

coral geyser
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Dude, it doesn't work

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it's SO far to the next point

magic burrow
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huh, that sucks.

fading skiff
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i will try, if it doesnt work, rerun

uneven pulsar
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I got off with 7 red whips, good luck

fading skiff
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maybe a gravity disc would help

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was better with 8 wax than 4 was and a h34d

dense badger
#

purity on artificer seems very strong

coral geyser
#

What is it?

fading socket
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cuts cooldowns by 2 seconds and reduces luck by 1

dense badger
#

^^

fading socket
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so unless you have a clover you're never proccing anything again

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but Artificer no longer has to reload (or at least the reload is reduced to 0.5 seconds) so if you do get that clover it's amazing

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I think it's one of the harder unlocks without command artifact tho

dense badger
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yeah I'm messing around with it with command artifact rn and it feels way better than standard artificer

dull ingot
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Might be worth on artificer actually, will proc less but shes so reliant on cooldowns. I'll try it out

warm jewel
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Oh, I ran that not too long ago

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your shift becomes mental

dense badger
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definitely risky without command, feels broken with command

warm jewel
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The final boss is something straight out of Furi

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I love it!

fading socket
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yeah I'd say that's an apt comparison, though I haven't played that much Furi myself

dull ingot
#

btw do yall loop before going for the final boss or just go straight from stage 5

warm jewel
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I go straight for him

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Dodge that a-hole to high hell

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panic once third phase starts

fading socket
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I honestly think it's easier to do it ASAP since phase 4 would probably be easier

dense badger
#

I looped a couple times for "The Calm" but I also wanted to try to cheese it so needed hella items

warm jewel
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Artificer with the jump seems to be the way to go

supple widget
#

yeah but phase 4 is still the weakest

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what's the calm? @dense badger

dense badger
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beat the game on monsoon

supple widget
#

ah, purity

warm jewel
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That will always be a weird one

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makes you not want to stack shaped glass

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Why would you do that?!

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I'll take my 8hp and 20 repulser plates, thank you very much!

dull ingot
#

so uh,
-Forgive Me Please
-Soulbound Catalyst
-Gesture of the Drowned

Would not recommend.

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my game crashed after like 10 seconds

warm jewel
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Oop