gd2-nullified

[west bolt]

i mean, just get a single clover to balance it out

[pallid thorn]

well.

[sinful anvil]

brainstalks are useless against the final boss

[glossy pumice]

^^

[west bolt]

also
|| Mithrix || last phase was arguably the easiest

[pallid thorn]

thats up to the coding of the game with clover and purity and if there are priorities.

[glossy pumice]

this is condition-less which is very strong

[deep veldt]

i wanted the boss to be bigger

[chrome hedge]

Any item relating to Elites is useless against final boss.

[west bolt]

i think most people just make the big mistake of standing next to him as he starts phase 4

if you keep your range (well, rip merc) then your fine

[sinful anvil]

How do you fight him with melee characters tho?

[glossy pumice]

and if you have genesis loop

[deep veldt]

yeah

[glossy pumice]

F for you

[deep veldt]

or razorwire

[west bolt]

oh my, didnt even think about that...ouch

[deep veldt]

yeh

[sinful anvil]

First time i fought him he straight-up one-shot me on phase 4

[deep veldt]

it hurts

[pallid thorn]

razorwire has a range.

[glossy pumice]

happened first time i fought him Q-Q

[deep veldt]

same

[chrome hedge]

Yes, but still RIP Merc.

[west bolt]

they should add a scrapper to the stage tbh

[sinful anvil]

To the final stage?

[pallid thorn]

i feel like both scrapper and cleansing pool need more consistent spawns.

[glossy pumice]

cleasing in particular

[drifting shore]

i havent seena cleansing pool in years

[fickle hare]

Man the final boss is just not fun

[glossy pumice]

i feel scrapper is ok for the most part

[thick crystal]

cleansing yeah scrapper no

I've got a scrapper on most maps, sometimes even 3

[worldly pivot]

So what is the general consensus these days on the Huntress alt attacks? triple blink still sucks but what about the others

[deep veldt]

i know how to cheese him, get a preon and loads of shaped glass, fire the preon at him just has phase 4 begins, then hell take all ur shaped glass have no health so the preon will instakill

[pallid thorn]

out of ~7 runs i saw a single scrapper.

[thick crystal]

I like triple blink way better than one blink

[sinful anvil]

I saw 7 scrappers in a single run to the obelisk

[glossy pumice]

i find one just about every stage

[pale roost]

Scrappers seems ok, I find one every run

[drifting shore]

i dont see scrappers all that much at all the ffuc

[worldly pivot]

Isn't triple blink a shorter distance all things considered

[plucky comet]

you can scrap captain's microbots btw

[sinful anvil]

Yeah, and you get them back next stage

[deep veldt]

i still think using a recycler on scrap should reroll it to a different rarity

[thick crystal]

it's but way better to dodge

you don't blink for range

[glossy pumice]

but triple does not have vericality

[pallid thorn]

then scrap recycling is just a freeroll strat without an active.

[worldly pivot]

You do when you want to get places high up etc

[thick crystal]

use your R to get higher up

[deep veldt]

use ballistas height

[glossy pumice]

i personally think the vertical movement is more important than strafing

[thick crystal]

or just get a god damn hopo feather

[deep veldt]

yeah

[worldly pivot]

Oh yeah triple blink only is lateral, yeah it stinks

[deep veldt]

hopoo is so underated

"the item not the company the company sucks"

[thick crystal]

strafing si way better than vertical movement

[sinful anvil]

Hopoo is so important on characters without mobility

[plucky comet]

why does red scrap even exist? im pretty sure there arent any red printers

[worldly pivot]

Hopoo vs qual tho

There are for sure red printers

[deep veldt]

hopoo

[sinful anvil]

There are red printers, they are just rare

And they have a different name

[pallid thorn]

there are red printers. its just 6 stage and up.

[deep veldt]

bc of the ambry

i saw one on 5

[pallid thorn]

super rare.

[worldly pivot]

I think they can spawn any level

[thick crystal]

Captain has the best red scrap ever

[sinful anvil]

They're mili-tech printers

[pallid thorn]

i wish you could put 2 reds into the red cauldron.

[plucky comet]

isnt it just better to keep the legendary then? all legendaries are good, really the only situation you would use a scrapper on a legendary if there is already a printer there and a scrapper, which is extremly are

[thick crystal]

or your legendary is captain's nanobots

[plucky comet]

yeah

[pallid thorn]

frootloops of jumping i dont like.

[glossy pumice]

which come back if you dont have them

[pallid thorn]

wake is meh at times.

[plucky comet]

imagine getting a clover printer

[pallid thorn]

one of every item baby.

[thick crystal]

I had a clover shop on my last run in the final stage

[plucky comet]

and it took all of your on proc items

[sinful anvil]

You could have a healing build and pick up wake of vultures, which would make you vulnerable if you killed a lighting elite

[frosty stream]

Sorry to barge into this conversation but just recorded this finding:

[drifting shore]

i hear captain gets a new nanobots every stage if u scrapped em
i havent tried tho

[sinful anvil]

Or you could have a reju pack without any healing

[frosty stream]

The big Mul-T strat reveal; wait for it.

[thick crystal]

you do get one every stage

so free red scrap until fix I guess

[drifting shore]

nanomachines son

[plucky comet]

bruh

[glossy pumice]

rip your fingers tho

[pallid thorn]

its like a captain game.

[frosty stream]

Nah you just hold down R.

[thick crystal]

want a good strat with mulT? don't play him

[arctic terrace]

lol jade elephant is so good

[glossy pumice]

remember back in the day when multi was the op character

[pallid thorn]

good luck.

[thick crystal]

it was

[unkempt crane]

can someone help me understand something?

[thick crystal]

maybe

[glossy pumice]

now hes the worst :sad:

[pallid thorn]

loader walks in "hey howsitgoin"

[thick crystal]

idk about that, artificer is pretty bad

[pallid thorn]

mm we did get a new contender.

[thick crystal]

her design is good and all, nice early game but falls off so fast

[pallid thorn]

i like it because i get to cosplay as a bird and never touch the ground.

[thick crystal]

yeah but teleporter is on the ground

[pallid thorn]

shhh

[thick crystal]

so are chests

[pallid thorn]

i can dream damnit!

[glossy pumice]

not if you play with

[unkempt crane]

@thick crystal that's why you do it multiplayer and just let your minions charge the tp

[thick crystal]

@unkempt crane seems like a worthless leader then

[unkempt crane]

that's the point

[pale iris]

why are the captain's beacons and probes disabled in the artifact area

[pallid thorn]

yes.

[thick crystal]

cause the ship can't fire there

[deep veldt]

one person goes as a high mobility character with lots of eyeframes, they get alot of shaped glass
the other person stacks normal items to carry him through the run but they also get a preon
then on the moon the guy with the shaped glass hides and doesnt leave the starting area
when mithrix takes all the items he takes the shaped glass and loses most of his health
then you activate the preon and kill him <---- cheese strat might work sombody test it

[pallid thorn]

cant activate boss without all players.

[deep veldt]

k

um the guy carrying clears the path to mithrix

so the shaped glass guy doesnt die

then he runs when the boss is spawned

[thick crystal]

doll => lot of on kill item => gesture => double equipable beacon

last phase took it fast

[glossy pumice]

yeah doll is broken in more than one way rn

[ivory depot]

doll => lot of on kill item => gesture => double equipable beacon
SOUBOUND CATALYST

[deep veldt]

HOLY

what is that?

[thick crystal]

please don't soulbound with gesture and doll

[pallid thorn]

throwable nuke.

[ivory depot]

less than 5 minutes held
nearly 5000 activations

[thick crystal]

you'll kill your computer with soulbound => doll => gesture

[pallid thorn]

now get chaos.

[deep veldt]

will it actually crash?

[pallid thorn]

no.

[thick crystal]

yes

[ivory depot]

i manged to quit before it crashed, but the person i was playing with crashed

[deep veldt]

yikes

[pallid thorn]

it will just run. very. slowly.

[thick crystal]

unless you have no item you can't play

[frosty stream]

Mul-T is bad now

[thick crystal]

doll trigger kill => trigger soulbound => trigger doll ... infinite doll ... so ... yeah

[ivory depot]

it gets exponentially worse

[thick crystal]

the first 5 seconds are fine ... then ... I hope you like 1 fps

[ivory depot]

1 doll may spawn 3 dolls, which spawn 9, which spawn 27, which spawns more and more and more until the game is gone

[deep veldt]

ohno

[pallid thorn]

EXPONENTIAL DEATH

[thick crystal]

and if you get somthing like willowhisp + you kill the full map ... I bet 10 seconds is you lifespan xD

[ivory depot]

i mean sure i was immortal, had infinite riches, and killed eveyrthing in the map but it also killed my computer

[thick crystal]

Ghor tome is op

[deep veldt]

does doll keep procing items even after they have been taken

[ivory depot]

yeah ghor + doll is really good

[thick crystal]

with a friend yesterday each level we had 1m moneyz

[pallid thorn]

ghor + doll + soul + will + gas = money bomb.

[ivory depot]

add monster tooth for infinite health

[thick crystal]

alien plant for infinite plant

[cunning topaz]

Don’t forget Topaz Brooch

[pallid thorn]

might throw in a bandolier.

[deep veldt]

if i use doll with items then items are taken does doll still proc my onkills

[thick crystal]

yes

[pallid thorn]

i think so.

[deep veldt]

gg

k time to cheese the endgame

[pallid thorn]

engie turrets are unnafected by it too.

[cunning topaz]

Doll with soulbound (no gesture) is INSANELY op

[ivory depot]

no i dont think so since if you pick up another item while a doll is out itll start activating that one too

[deep veldt]

ik

oooh

[thick crystal]

that's why ... Doll + gesture + lots of kill item + double equipable beacon you explode the final phase

[ivory depot]

so it makes sense that if you lose an item itll lose it too

[cunning topaz]

You can cover the map with dolls without gesture if you have like 2 fuel cells

With topaz brooch ALONE, this makes you unkillable

[thick crystal]

I think the last boss had time to only pick up 3 or 4 of my items

[ivory depot]

if you are gonna use soulbound + gesture doll if you just have smth like topaz it may not be that bad

[cunning topaz]

Desk plant is also good lol

[hexed kettle]

is there respawning in this game in coop?

[thick crystal]

don't soulbdoun + gesture + doll you gonna leave your run

[pallid thorn]

yes.

[cunning topaz]

Desk plant finally has a use

[thick crystal]

not as good as sacrificial dagger still

[ivory depot]

is there respawning in this game in coop?
once you reach the next stage all dead players will be revived

[arctic terrace]

oh well couldnt beat the item suck

[hexed kettle]

thanks

[cunning topaz]

Yeah dagger still better ofc

[dull ingot]

yay another run ended by comedy island

i beat mithrix too, jfc

[arctic terrace]

on mithrix

[pallid thorn]

it had a use. it was to... heal. i think.

[cunning topaz]

But with the doll combo you can just cover the map in desk plants

[arctic terrace]

i couldnt get oculus so i couldnt beat the phase

im literally useless

[dull ingot]

also hoo boy the captain is the WORST cahracter to fight mithrix

HE TAKES YOUR GODDAMN DRONES

YOU ONLY HAVE RANGED ATTACKS

[arctic terrace]

as trishot huntress

[thick crystal]

he is not the worst

captain can os Mitrhix

[pallid thorn]

desk plant is great cause it was ripped from the lobby menue.

[cunning topaz]

Yeah cap has the burst

[thick crystal]

for me Merc is the worst against him

[dull ingot]

how are you guys one bursting him on monsoon

[pallid thorn]

luck/

[thick crystal]

doll + gesture + kill items + double equip beacon

[arctic terrace]

yeah his melee dash should have a windup

[thick crystal]

Can't suck my items if he's dead

[cunning topaz]

Equip beacon might suck but god I can’t wait to experiment with it

[dull ingot]

i tried to nuke him with Preon

[thick crystal]

Equip beacon is the best for me

[dull ingot]

did not work out

[arctic terrace]

rip

i couldnt burst him fast enough

only 50%

[dull ingot]

i mean i beat him cos if you go up the ramps MIthrix is so poorly coded that he literally cannot reach you

[arctic terrace]

i had 3 glasses and 52 clover

[cunning topaz]

Yeah ramps need to be nerfed

[arctic terrace]

does ramp cheese works on item suck too

[thick crystal]

I mean he can't touch you in the air either

[modest topaz]

"So poorly coded" - sounds like someone who doesn't understand code lol

[arctic terrace]

nah he could air dash u

the line attack also hits quite high

[cunning topaz]

I beat him just by kiting with slide commando and abusing ramps

[arctic terrace]

doing it with huntress on item suck is pain because her slightly short range and the bullet hell you have to deal with

commando has more range

[cunning topaz]

Yeah that must suck

I imagine rebar multi must be solid against suck

[arctic terrace]

and im running trishot too and without oculus im doing 0 damage

lol

[cunning topaz]

Oh yeah trishot without crit 🤢

[arctic terrace]

all the actives i found only elephant is useful

for the run

[cunning topaz]

Also, has anyone tried the new Mul-T scrap launcher yet? I wonder if the buffs were enough to warrant using it

Haven’t tried it yet myself

[spark whale]

yo does anyone know how to get microbots in the logbook?

[pallid thorn]

vengance.

[cunning topaz]

Play as captain

Oh

[pallid thorn]

have to pick it up.

[spark whale]

yea playing as captain doesn't work

[cunning topaz]

Rip

[arctic terrace]

fuck this im gonna find a save file for this for captain

[pallid thorn]

kill a doppleganger stage one.

[spark whale]

wait the doppleganger drops it?

[pallid thorn]

if its its only item.

[spark whale]

ah

gotcha

[cunning topaz]

So you can get 2 of them?

[pallid thorn]

wet noodle fight tho.

[spark whale]

I can imagine

On the wiki it says the stacking effect is that it can shoot down +1 projectile

[cunning topaz]

Wild

[pallid thorn]

yhep.

whats a brass contraption?

honestly i dont notice a lot of things as captain simply because they cant even reach me,.

"oh there was a blazing elder... huh."

[cunning topaz]

Haven’t played much captain, is full attack speed that busted?

[pallid thorn]

nope.

he's super weak.

[spark whale]

He's still pretty fun

[pallid thorn]

the passive is super funny tho.

[spark whale]

only thing that sucks is that his shift and r are locked in hidden areas

[pallid thorn]

also his r is single use.

and his damage scales poorly.

[cunning topaz]

Yeah

[arctic terrace]

lmao just load up a save ez

[spark whale]

sad

[pallid thorn]

and his shotgun falls off at range despite the focusing.

he's quite bad.

[dull ingot]

captain is really realy bad past the first loop

im eagerly waiting for patch 1.1 cos this release has been pretty rocky to be quite honest

[pallid thorn]

i think the r should have a 2 min cooldown so you could use it freely. and his damage should match other characters.

[dull ingot]

between comedy island (seriously what the fuck) and mithrix being able to be cheesed the entire "end" feels incredibly....not done

we can debate about which beacon is best but to be honest theyre all mediocre at best

[spark whale]

my main issue is the lack of logs

[pallid thorn]

the main problem i have with the emplacements are you either hedge on not getting pushed or bring double heal and save for the boss.

[spark whale]

but hopefully they'll add them in eventually

[dull ingot]

you dont even need the heal stations, you can cheese the boss by standing on top of the ramps

[leaden lily]

Comedy island? Is that the unofficial name of the area on the moon it's a struggle to get back from? With the item pools n stuff

[pallid thorn]

no i mean for EVERY boss.

yes.

[dull ingot]

hotel california also works

[arctic terrace]

wheres the save files?

[dull ingot]

oh i mean yeah the beacons dont do jack shit against the bosses

i just use the taser station to keep trash mobs from hitting me

[valid steppe]

Lol yea save your beacons for the teleporter but they're useless against the boss

[crimson glacier]

Quick question: has anyone determined the easiest character and strategy for beating the final boss?

[pallid thorn]

i use heal, its good. not great. but good. the tazer is debatable. and everything else is bad in concept.

[dull ingot]

@crimson glacier artificer alt R, jump into the air and wail on them

[valid steppe]

I absolutely love the way the shotgun feels though

[crimson glacier]

good to know

[dull ingot]

because mithrix as it stands has zero antiair capabiltiies

[pallid thorn]

or play engie, get bustling. aegis, and barbed.

[dull ingot]

or you can climb on top of the ramps on the arena, and then mitrhix cant reach you

[pallid thorn]

he cant kill the turrets.

[crimson glacier]

do I put the turrets next to eachother, or just far apart?

[pallid thorn]

next to eachother.

his attack cycles just are not fast enough.

[spark whale]

time to sit here for 6 goddamn minutes just so I dont have a hole in my log

[pallid thorn]

with a built transfusion, he cant oneshot even behind pace on normal difficulty.

[cunning topaz]

Damn the captain alt tho 😳😳

[dull ingot]

the captain alt looks really goddamn ugly imo

[spark whale]

about to make me act up 😩

[dull ingot]

its just a white recolour monotexture

[valid steppe]

the captain alt looks really goddamn ugly imo
@dull ingot I honestly love it SO MUCH

[pallid thorn]

its a single color.

and it is not easy on the eyes.

[dull ingot]

my fav skin remains the Engie mastery one

[spark whale]

and it is not easy on the eyes.
@pallid thorn we dont all have baby eyes

[valid steppe]

Artificer's alt skin is god tier

[cunning topaz]

Commando’s is my favorite by a pretty wide margin

[spark whale]

im with @valid steppe, artificer is best

[dull ingot]

Engie Mastery > all

[valid steppe]

Yea I don't even play commando but I love his skin

[spark whale]

reflective

[dull ingot]

i like the captain one

[cunning topaz]

Actually I like rex’s too, it looks so goofy

For our favorite goofy plant robot

[spark whale]

the only one im not a fan of is acrid's

I always just stick with regular

[cunning topaz]

Idk I like being a slime dog

[dull ingot]

i like the Merc, commando and engie cos theyre actually remodels and not just a blank recolour

i know the ROR artstyle is low poly but they feel really lazy

[pallid thorn]

its all cell shaded, not low poly.

think wind waker.

[dull ingot]

mb

not familiar with the technical terms but the point still stands

[fathom crow]

yeah no where near low poly, but i understand u

[pallid thorn]

i think the technical term is "selectively monochromatic"

[valid steppe]

But yea I could pretty much take or leave all of Cap's abilities besides his MY which not only is effective but feels great to use

*M1

[dull ingot]

captain's m1 and shift are the most satisfying things in ROR2

his taser and beacons leave a lot to be desired tho

[cunning topaz]

If the taser actually did damage it’d be nice

As opposed to a baby 100%

I want to bounce it off walls and feel rewarded

[spark whale]

poggers based and redpilled

[arctic terrace]

ez edited

[dull ingot]

i wish the taser chained

[wicked tulip]

i wish the captain could pick his beacons up . carry em around , take em to hidden realms , bonk enemies with them

[mellow dagger]

afterburner captain feels like exterminatus, im loving it

[tired axle]

@mellow dagger you should try visions of heresy

[mellow dagger]

btw if you pick up visions with captain youll get 12 shots of your orbital bombardment - huntress bug is back and it wears a captains hat now

yeah hah

[dull ingot]

so basically hopoo didnt test 1.0

[mellow dagger]

i think they know

[tired axle]

probably

[vocal mason]

ATG printer with seven green scrap LETS GO

[arctic terrace]

what does the supply beacon even dp

[loud scroll]

theres some funky bugs in 1.0

[vocal mason]

can drop healing station, shock station, hack station, what's the fourth?

[coral bolt]

Equipment recharge

[vocal mason]

mix and match, can do two drops per stage

[ivory depot]

my favorite is healing and hacking, unless your on sac, in which case i use double heal

[arctic terrace]

hacking is only for chests in the aoe?

[ivory depot]

and shrines of chance

which makes all uses on that shrine of chance free, so its a free two items

[arctic terrace]

its not that hard to get money doe

if its just 1 in the small aoe

prolly good for shrines

[ivory depot]

free legendary chests as well

but yeah shrines are generally the best usage

[arctic terrace]

i always fight worship unit ez

[undone pawn]

when will the newest update come for swich?

[ivory depot]

no but i mean if you get unlucky and roll abysall its a free chest

[arctic terrace]

i doubt capt can fight worship unit though

[ivory depot]

awu isnt that bad, ik.

[arctic terrace]

he has no mobility

[ivory depot]

with the right build you can but yeah hes not super good for it]

[wicked tulip]

well yeah if you fight the worship unit with no mobility items

[tired axle]

@undone pawn fall

[arctic terrace]

i mean u can do it with most char with a dash or blink even without mobility items

[undone pawn]

thanks

[arctic terrace]

does attack speed boost shotgun charge rate

[ivory depot]

yes

[arctic terrace]

nice

[ivory depot]

but its a takes a lot of +attack speed for there to be a noticable difference

[arctic terrace]

rip

how good is frenzy on him then

with opus

[ivory depot]

i havent really tested

[pale pecan]

i got like 13 stack of syringe yesterday

[arctic terrace]

oof

[pale pecan]

its so fast af

[ivory depot]

i had a godrun yesterday on him where i had 50 syringes

it was a near instant charge

[woven pivot]

purity op

[vocal mason]

what does it do?

[ivory depot]

reduces all cds by 2 seconds but it acts as an anticlover

[woven pivot]

decreases cooldowns by 2 seconds (+1 per stack) but decreases luck

[vocal mason]

interesting

[woven pivot]

for merc this means you can spam r without getting 2 million alien heads
mithrix was too easy

[vocal mason]

so basically it decreases the chances of procs?

[woven pivot]

ye

but not teddy bear teddy bear isn't affected by luck

[ivory depot]

and enemies have a higher chance of critting you, higher chance of applying debuffs, and (this doesnt really matter) aspects drop less

[wise marlin]

hello can someone here tell me if there is a mod for more than 4 players?

[ivory depot]

vanilla

[wise marlin]

you mean its now possible to play with more than 4 in vanilla?

[ivory depot]

normal games can have up to 16 players now

[wise marlin]

ohhhh

[ivory depot]

although ive heard that there are issues if you go above 12

[wise marlin]

ohhh i didnt know that

alright thanks

[plucky comet]

that means 80 effigies on the map

[ivory depot]

god no

[plucky comet]

yes

[wise marlin]

oh yes

[plucky comet]

and with modding we could get up to 32 players maybe (160 effigies yay)

[vocal mason]

I put a used dio (grey) into the scrapper and it breaks lol

[plucky comet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/560893391630499871/743154714241269760/unknown.png

[vocal mason]

no it's like an on-purpose thing

it sputters and spits gears out

[plucky comet]

lul, i thought the game broke or smth

[regal glacier]

wait what happens when it ||[The moon]|| detonates? i've either died or didn't stick around to see what happens

[plucky comet]

captain may not be the best char but he feels SO good to play

idk

i could try it

[hasty coral]

he feels awful in the special areas where he can't use his abilities tho

[plucky comet]

dont fight aurelionite like me pls

am i lucky or did the red item droprate went up? i swear i get one every 5 big chests

'i also got 1 from a small one

[glossy pumice]

lucky

[plucky comet]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC-M1DzQtYw||

idk why 360p though

nvm its now good

real gamers play on drizzle

[vocal mason]

Acrid is probably one of the worst survivors to fight Mythrix with

[regal glacier]

kek

[plucky comet]

he dosent even have iframes smh

[rich crypt]

so whats the main strat to playing cap

i hopped into a run and didnt really feel it tbh

[vocal mason]

crit and syringes?

[rich crypt]

his m1 and the orbital strikes feel good but the m2 feels... eh

[plucky comet]

focus crystals and get up close

yea m2 is meh

[vocal mason]

the most I use his m2 for is to lock someone for the orbital strike

[plucky comet]

its just for stunning

but electrocute dosent work on flying enemies for some reason

its real hard to get an orbital strike on flyers

[rich crypt]

i keep thinking i need to charge up the shot for max damage even though it doesnt do anything for damage lmao

[limpid tulip]

how tf do you beat the boss as merc

[plucky comet]

Iframes

[old ledge]

eviscerate through the hammer attacks

[rich crypt]

but electrocute dosent work on flying enemies for some reason
@plucky comet ive tazed the jellyfish before, they just plop to the ground lmao

[plucky comet]

or just wait

[limpid tulip]

he keeps hitting me with the overhead slam while i'm behind him and i've gotten to phase 4 once or twice total

[old ledge]

yeah he just does the 180 overhead and oneshots, right?

[plucky comet]

the trick is to obliterate the boss before he obliterates you

nothing inbetween

[limpid tulip]

@old ledge feels like it yeah

[plucky comet]

OSP should prevent that though

[arctic terrace]

lol captain is literally air raider

[rich crypt]

dunno what ur referencing but sure i guess

[limpid tulip]

yeah idk seems to happen though

[old ledge]

i think his attack has two seperate hits.

[arctic terrace]

edf

[old ledge]

same reason how wisps can ignore osp

[rich crypt]

i think his attack has two seperate hits.
^

[plucky comet]

now they cant

osp lingers for for about .2 seconds now

[limpid tulip]

i've reached phase 4 one time i think and i just got one shot

[pearl smelt]

Captain is so much fun to play

[old ledge]

ah, so it actually protects you now

[limpid tulip]

idk what even hit me

[arctic terrace]

either the balls

[plucky comet]

yeah but Shaped glass now removes OSP

[arctic terrace]

or his machine guns

[old ledge]

in phase 4 you can lay into him before he finishes taking items

[plucky comet]

so it wont be OP

[old ledge]

he also only has machineguns and an orb spread attack, and he loses all his speed

[plucky comet]

i actually obliterated the 4th phase before he took any items

[arctic terrace]

lol he does it so fast u really cant burst it fast enough unless command build

[limpid tulip]

yeah never realized that before dying but i feel like i could do it if i didnt get fucked by the hammer's hitbox

[plucky comet]

healthbar just disapeared lol

[rich crypt]

the two times ive beat him (both on huntress) i melted him before he could take anything

[loud scroll]

i swear the boss has an absurd amount of armour i can never do that much daamge to him

[arctic terrace]

if you're not command u cant burst him

[plucky comet]

yeah he does

but 4th phase frankly dosent

[old ledge]

yeah the hammer feels like if you're anywhere near him you simply die, so you basically have to just run away from him constantly

[plucky comet]

or above him

[limpid tulip]

im playing mainly merc so i just try to dash/eviscerate through it

[old ledge]

ay, you can just stand on a pillar if you want

[limpid tulip]

or stay in the air if i have enough mobility

[arctic terrace]

you will still have to eat his dash attacks

since it has no windup

[plucky comet]

so um im too busy obliterating the guy but what does he say when he shittalks me?

[old ledge]

the dude is basically untankable, as far as i can tell. He can oneshot through tonic at 25 minutes.

[limpid tulip]

i've just been rushing to him so maybe i should try looping?

[plucky comet]

i think 1 loop is optimal

[limpid tulip]

idk to be honest but i feel like im doing worse overall compared to my first few times

[rich crypt]

ive found that aegis+megaleech is remarkably effective for tanking him if need be

[arctic terrace]

just play command and obliterate him lmoa

[plucky comet]

or huntress

[old ledge]

the final boss does feel like you're expected to loop and get big before trying it, what with the whole "you NEED movement" thing

[plucky comet]

just blink through attacks

her blink actually has iframes

[arctic terrace]

you cant blink in 4th phase because the balls are random

you will just blink into it

[dull ingot]

The 4th phase isn't that bad

[old ledge]

they're also jumpable and you can blink upwards while just continuing to slap him for damage and items

[plucky comet]

you can in most situations destroy him before he spawns any balls

[arctic terrace]

yeah its not bad if you're running a command build that melts him before he does anything

[old ledge]

eventually you get your stuff back and he's a joke

[rich crypt]

also

if you're not command u cant burst him
this is not true lmao good rng is all you need :3

[dull ingot]

except if you're engineer probably

[vocal mason]

how much crit do scythes give?

[dull ingot]

5%

[arctic terrace]

0

[old ledge]

no it's laughable as engineer. He can't take your turrets' items.

[plucky comet]

im pretty sure that he dosent take items from turrets

[arctic terrace]

wait scythe gives crit?

[vocal mason]

yep

[dull ingot]

but it doesn't stack

[arctic terrace]

i thought its healing only

[plucky comet]

5%

[dull ingot]

and so does predatory

[plucky comet]

its hidden

[arctic terrace]

hmm

[old ledge]

And if you were a bungus engie... he gets nothing from it. Because he doesn't stand still.

[rich crypt]

both scythe and predatory gives 5% each the first time around

doesnt stack

but thats what the crit glasses are for

[arctic terrace]

10% if u get both?

[rich crypt]

ye

so the ideal situation is 9 glasses and those 2

[plucky comet]

the best thing to obliterate him are the bands really, get a high damaging thing like cap's orbital strike, couple of bands and he gone

[dull ingot]

ye

[rich crypt]

oh yeah for sure the bands are disgusting now

[arctic terrace]

not really

[dull ingot]

Especially for loader

[vocal mason]

yea they're killing a lot for me right now, but I have 5 of each at this point

[arctic terrace]

missles is still better

[dull ingot]

I got a run where i basically oneshotted everything with max crits and both of the bands

[rich crypt]

wtf do you mean not really, 4 stacks of ice bands is 1000% damage

[arctic terrace]

bands got nerfed if anything

[dull ingot]

Depends what character you're playing

[arctic terrace]

so do missles and i can proc more of it in that long ass cooldown

and no threshold either

[rich crypt]

well if youre playing like mult with only the nailgun id agree

or if youre playing to proc death mark

[arctic terrace]

the same class that benefits from bands can also benefit from missles

[ivory depot]

the band changes indirectly buffed loader lel

[slate jackal]

Turns out catalyst+gesture+fuel cells mixed with the new equipment Please Forgive Me is a terrible idea lol

[rich crypt]

oh god

what happened

[ivory depot]

Turns out catalyst+gesture+fuel cells mixed with the new equipment Please Forgive Me is a terrible idea lol

[oak ravine]

Yea we've already talked about how it bugs out

[ivory depot]

this is what happened when i did it

[slate jackal]

for some reason I didn't consider that catalyst itself was a death effect and ruined my bomb spam

[oak ravine]

I just came in to comment that I did some math and if you use artificer's new buffed electrosphere with a brilliant behemoth the diameter of the blast is something along the lines of 65 feet

[ivory depot]

"on kill reduces equipment cd" hm

for some reason I didn't consider that catalyst itself was a death effect and ruined my bomb spam

[oak ravine]

on her primary fire.

[vocal mason]

wow

[rich crypt]

what the fuck

[oak ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382254406856343566/742934441386836028/unknown.png

This is the new base range, according to the patch notes this is a radius of 6m if I recall correctly

[plucky comet]

if you die as the Captain and you get revived with Dio, you can set up another 2 beacon

[rich crypt]

wait brilliant behemoth makes arti primary bigger?

[oak ravine]

with brilliant behemoth the explosion adds an extra 4~ m blast radius on every hit

and since this is an aoe if it touches one they explode

on a circular, radial explosion

you see where I'm going with this

Everything inside of that circle explodes.

[rich crypt]

who needs clovers when you have bazookas

[vocal mason]

I love how crazy shit happens and I still have great fps

[oak ravine]

I paid 1.2k for this damn brick it better run fine god damn it.

[vocal mason]

yea

[oak ravine]

I main artificer so I was just experimenting with the new effects she got on electrosphere and the electro bolt.

[vocal mason]

oh no

[oak ravine]

So it's probably more viable to do on hit builds with the electrobolt than the fire bolt

[vocal mason]

that's visions of heresy there, right?

[ivory depot]

yes

[stuck raft]

where's the moon's log entry?

[vocal mason]

below the boss arena

[stuck raft]

in that fire-pit-like place?

[vocal mason]

yea

[stuck raft]

ouf

[dull ingot]

what is the best loadout for captain?

[stuck raft]

i have no jumping

[rough moth]

All the secret area ones tend to be wherever is eye catching save for void fields

[stuck raft]

thank you

[vocal mason]

you think I'll be able to handle the boss?

[plucky comet]

probably, but why did you got so many glasses

[vocal mason]

just kept picking them up

[plucky comet]

wasted items

[vocal mason]

I printed some at one point

[subtle latch]

What do you want them to do, leave the extra glasses on the ground?

[rich crypt]

i mean unless its command extra glasses are extra glasses you cant really not pick up

[vocal mason]

then i just kept getting them anyway because that's how it works

[plucky comet]

i mean you could be lucky and get a recycler

[vocal mason]

but forgive me please

[plucky comet]

yeah

[rich crypt]

i genuinely think ive only seen recycler twice HAHAHAHA

[subtle latch]

Rip lunar coin.

[rich crypt]

i literally thought it was a new item cause i havent been playing recently

[vocal mason]

I got a second clover from a scav bag

GOT A THIRD

[versed flame]

How do you loop the game like you used to after stage 5?

[vocal mason]

touch the outside of the primordial portal before you charge it

change destination it should say

[arctic terrace]

nvm capt cant do mithrix

[ivory depot]

i did mithrax with command, no looping

[pine iris]

786 stacks of bleed :KEKW:

[fringe leaf]

Is anyone able to explain to me what 'Purity' does when it comes to the negative effect of it?

[arctic terrace]

he sticks too much to you

[subtle latch]

Purity's downside it literally a reverse clover

[ivory depot]

you need hoopoo feathers, like always.

yeah ^

[fringe leaf]

Purity's downside it literally a reverse clover
@subtle latch ah gotcha

[arctic terrace]

i had 2 stacks too but i have no horizontal momentum

so i will just fall into where he is

[fringe leaf]

thx

[arctic terrace]

u had dove

[fringe leaf]

that makes more sense 😛

[ivory depot]

yeah

[subtle latch]

Purity is a stronger Alien head with negative clovers attached.

[ivory depot]

without the dove i probably wouldve lost to the moon detonation phase lel

[arctic terrace]

fuck this shit im gonna do it with command now

i guess final boss is balanced around that

[ivory depot]

unless you loop you probably wanna use command

unless you are just godly at him

[fringe leaf]

I beat boss with huntress.

[ivory depot]

my first was a commando + command

[arctic terrace]

if you speedrun its prolly easier

[subtle latch]

Nothing is balance around artifacts XD

[arctic terrace]

i prefer getting all the boxes in my run lol

[pine iris]

I looped with command

[round wraith]

Spinel Tonic Is still in the game ?????

[fringe leaf]

y

[ivory depot]

i havent actually tried looping aginst him lel

[pine iris]

I can apply 786 stacks of bleed against AWU

[ivory depot]

Spinel Tonic Is still in the game ?????
yes, why?

[fringe leaf]

@round wraith it gives you a curse now, removing one-shot-protection

[subtle latch]

It always gave you the curse.

[fringe leaf]

never noticed it xD

explains a lot huehue

[round wraith]

how i unlock ?

[ivory depot]

wait tonic doesnt disable osp the heck

[vocal mason]

there's a hitbox up here and I landed on top of it

[ivory depot]

huh

[vocal mason]

leap'll do that to you

aw, acrid left with "delusions of freedom"

[ivory depot]

all of the end cards are pretty sad

except captain ig

[subtle latch]

He just wanted to be left alone.

[vocal mason]

poor gummy dinosaur

[subtle latch]

"And so I left, still wondering where Providence went."

[ivory depot]

hes dead

[vocal mason]

what is this credit music, seems like some rocks banged together

[storm jasper]

Hey guys sorry to break the conversation feed here, I would like your opinion on one thing
Do you find the end boss fair ?
I just can't see how to kill him with the mercenary or the loader, in the first, third and especially last phase. I've been playing the game since EA and it's the first time I'm feeling I am fighting something really unfair and poorly designed

So i'm wondering if i'm just bad at the game, or if it really is this

[ivory depot]

the first and third phase are pretty unfair for melee charas
last phase isnt that bad tho, the pattern is quite simple, which makes sense due to your... lacking power

[vocal mason]

or you could just loop to the extent that the boss is a cakewalk

[ivory depot]

that too.

[subtle latch]

I find him pretty fair for melee characters, since merc has very good mobility and I-frames... and Loader... is bonkers in general.

[ivory depot]

yeah you have to really careful on loader

[storm jasper]

I mean, for a distance character it's not a real problem but for mele characters I feel like fighing a dark soul boss without without the fine balance it's supposed to be xD

[subtle latch]

However, the fact you can just cheese some attacks feels like poor design.

[storm jasper]

yeah i see

[analog karma]

Holy SHIT is shattering justice amazing on Captain

[subtle latch]

Yeah, it's really a Souls boss when playing Mercenary.

[ivory depot]

at least you get iframes on merfc

[subtle latch]

On rainstorm and drizzle tho, his HP is so low he just gets shredded by a single preon shot or something.

[storm jasper]

yeah we tried it on easy and the first three phases were really easy

but we got one shot on the last one for some reason

on drizzle xD

[subtle latch]

but with Monsoon scaling, the final boss has enough hp to be a real endurance fight. Something kinda BS is how high his damage is, invalidating any and all healing/defense items in the game.

[loud scroll]

he hits like a truck when he hits you

i honestly dont really like anything about the new stage

[subtle latch]

Even on Rainstorm, something like the rotating rays trigger OSP.

[storm jasper]

yeah it's too bad about this too
Risk of rain 1 last stage was great, really intense

this one is cool when you discover it, but on replayability it's boring

[fringe burrow]

So, what is the general opinion on Captain? Also, I keep hearing Merc got nerfed somehow, what exactly happened there?

[subtle latch]

At least we got eclipse.

Merc got his hp privilege taken away.

[loud scroll]

i think captain is pretty bad except his m1

[subtle latch]

2.5 hp/s down to 1.0 hp/s

[loud scroll]

everyone else seems to think hes god like they do every character that comes out

[subtle latch]

The only thing about Captain that is "god" is his passive. I wonder if we'll be able to get that item legit on other characters, because it's dope.

[storm jasper]

Well i'll see when i unlock him
thanks for your point of view

[ivory depot]

captain isnt the best character, but hes at least fun to play

[loud scroll]

he also has zero movement skills which is one of my biggest problem with this game because the maps are so big but so damn empty it takes forever to traverse them

[subtle latch]

To be fair, IDK how to make a hard final boss for a scaling-fest like ROR2 without making some BS like the old alloy worship unit.

[loud scroll]

by giving him a ton of armor so he takes a while to kill

[ivory depot]

they probably need to up the hp but reduce the dmg because he just obliterates your osp than obliterates you

by making the fight longer itd feel like a real, fair, fight.

[young hull]

hey so idk if its intended but i just found out captain doesnt have his beacons in the void or gold portal

[ivory depot]

thats intended to maintain continuity but it sucks

like, i get it, but it just
just why

[young hull]

thats pretty lame to lose 2/3s of his kit

[ivory depot]

yeah

[past bridge]

Gotta stay bound to realism :)

[ivory depot]

we go to the moon to fight a guy who can steal all our personal belongings with his mind

[past bridge]

Yeah pretty realistic to me?

[ivory depot]

fair enough

[loud scroll]

why the fuck does a game like this need continuity for skills

[ivory depot]

yeah it sucks
they literally cripple a character in 5 environenments to maintain continuity

[loud scroll]

and captain is already pretty bad

[ivory depot]

at least hes fun

earlygame

[loud scroll]

ive gotten to the point where i can only play loader since they actually have movement

[latent basalt]

Everyone says Artificer is bad too, but shes one of my favorites

[ivory depot]

i have never liked arti

[loud scroll]

i cant stand artificer but havent tried her on 1.0 patch

[ivory depot]

yeah same

[hot flare]

i thought arti was in a good place but then they added physics to her m2

now its like a toddler trying to play shotput

[latent basalt]

That only really matters if you're trying to snipe things

I havent noticed a difference with her ice m2

[hot flare]

it was way better than lobbing your m1 and hoping to hit

m2 was great for clearing out far away enemies

[loud scroll]

anyone else feel like there are drasically less chests now i swear everything is 3d printers

[arctic terrace]

oh fuck i activated a portal saying it aligns with the planet

am i fucked

i wanted to go to the moon

[supple sierra]

activate again for moon

[loud scroll]

press it again

[dull ingot]

wish me luck

whoops wrong link

[arctic terrace]

how theres only enter now

[dull ingot]

what

[loud scroll]

the outer spikes

god they really fucked up with how looping works now since no one can seem to figure it out

[hot flare]

teleporting to the moon should just have had a 'are you sure' prompt like obliterating

[arctic terrace]

yeah im not getting any prompts

[drifting holly]

What are best beacons to take on captain

I mean I feel like healing one is a must and other one depends

[silent gulch]

So uh

Ceremonial daggers + Soulbound catalyst + Fuel cells + Please Forgive Me

Is mildy overpowered

[loud scroll]

shock and resupply are pretty bad and the free items one is really niche

[drifting holly]

I tried swapping between shock and free items

Cuz free items one makes gold chest in hell free

While shock one helps dealing with ground units

[loud scroll]

the gold chest is honestly the only real use for the free item

[drifting holly]

But ground units aren't biggie anyways

Tbh free item beacon could have just slightly bigger range

It's hard to get it to even hit more then 1 chest

[loud scroll]

they all could, the range is so shit for an "ultimate skill"

[drifting holly]

I mean healing one I understand somewhat limit of range

Cuz it provides decent healing for everybody inside

[loud scroll]

its like worse than a couple of bustling fungus

[arctic terrace]

ah fuck fine i will just loop again and teleporter rush

[delicate sandal]

they should make mithrix fightable if you are one person on a team

[drifting holly]

True but still it's free couple of bustling funguses from get go

[ivory depot]

free items is pretty good if you get a shrine of chance
also you can get a free tc lel

[delicate sandal]

like the rest of my squad got stuck on comedy island

[arctic terrace]

why cant they just put a 2 button prompt like it was in the old game

e for final x for looping

[drifting holly]

Altho maybe taking double heal beacons could work

[loud scroll]

you literally just interact with the spikes on the teleporter

[drifting holly]

Do they stack?

[ivory depot]

i prefer heal and hack

[arctic terrace]

yeah but its not reversible

[loud scroll]

yes it is

i can 100% confirm that it is

[arctic terrace]

no its not after the tele charged i have no prompts for it anymore

[ivory depot]

yeah... you choose beforehand

[drifting holly]

Well after tele charged you can't but before tele is you can change

[loud scroll]

well yeah you cant do it after you charge the teleporter

[limpid tulip]

holy shit finally beat him

[arctic terrace]

shitty system

[drifting holly]

Double healing beacon captain could maybe have potentional to be broken

[loud scroll]

it is but it could be worse

[arctic terrace]

like i just spammed e when walking towards the teleporter

[drifting holly]

Imagine captain with engi who has couple funguses and double healing beacons

[modest trout]

Ayy

[arctic terrace]

and im only noticing something its weird at the 90%~

[modest trout]

I got Captains B skin, fun times

[drifting holly]

Aye his B skin is pretty lit

[modest trout]

Yee, I love the Eye(?) color change aswell

[drifting holly]

Me wishing i could see details but having lower then minimum spec to run game I'm more then happy with 50 fps

To me captian B skin is basically albino captain

[modest trout]

Haha, true

Kind of like Acrid, just less hidious lol

[drifting holly]

Altho skins could use a tiny bit more details

Like some skins feel very cool like merc

[loud scroll]

theyre low effort content for the most part only having 1 per character is whats surprising

[drifting holly]

I mean I could imagine maybe adding gold armaments to captian B skin

[drifting holly]

As skin is called ADMIRAL

[modest trout]

True

[drifting holly]

I first though skin name would be like

Arctic captain

[modest trout]

Snow Captain 😂 Very creative

[drifting holly]

Like keep white coat add gold armaments to body and shoulders

And add like some gold star or something on hat

And I'm sold

[modest trout]

Or, they could double down and make a Red and Gold coat 😂 WIth fringes on the tips

[barren forge]

hey, speaking of captain

[loud scroll]

looks like they just took a paint can and filled the skin like that

[drifting holly]

Currently it's captain but white

[barren forge]

anyone mess w/ hack? i got reds from every larger chest i hacked

[barren forge]

and idk if i got lucky or if its a thing

[modest trout]

Hack?

[eternal cipher]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/767b6f555a8330926134453d4caf22bc/tumblr_mkgb8oO3Cj1s90ra3o1_400.gif

[drifting holly]

People call it free item

[barren forge]

his "worth every penny" alt beacon

[modest trout]

Confusion 😂

[drifting holly]

It's beacon that opens chests

[modest trout]

Aaah

[trail hollow]

which unlock is the hack

[modest trout]

I see, thank you

[drifting holly]

I call em beacons but I don't think it's officially that

But they do seem like beacons

[vale quarry]

Hey, stuck on the last stage, can't make it back to the center platforms since i'm captain

[modest trout]

I'm still unlocking them
I think it's an Orbital Supply Drop...

[vale quarry]

jumping off doesn't put me back there

anyone got any advice?

[drifting holly]

Well you might have to end run

[barren forge]

regardless, if anyone else wants to test and see if you get guarenteed reds

[modest trout]

Yeah, getting stuck there usually ends the run depending on the character

[barren forge]

idk if its intentional

[loud scroll]

youre fucked

[upbeat panther]

which unlock is the hack
@trail hollow Worth every penny - TC-280 Prototype

[drifting holly]

@barren forge I got greens from my big chests

[trail hollow]

ahh thanks

[barren forge]

i see

[arctic terrace]

yeah only to have a scavenger ruin my run

[barren forge]

i guess i got god luck

[drifting holly]

Happens

Like when it happens to get horde of many fire wisps

[arctic terrace]

trash system on looping holy fuck my 45min gone just like that

[modest trout]

lol

[upbeat panther]

anyone got any advice?
@vale quarry got stuck in the same place

[drifting holly]

Actually there is advice

[loud scroll]

its not that bad you just fucked up on knowing what to do

its just not very intuitive

[drifting holly]

If you play low mobi character and Wana fight boss just get a ton of hoopo feathers

[upbeat panther]

started over tho 😂

[arctic terrace]

things like that should be obvious and not be like some stupid puzzle that i have to figure

[loud scroll]

yeah just get hopoo feathers

[supple widget]

welcome to the comedy island
you can check out any time you like
but you can never leave

[loud scroll]

just find em, its that easy

[drifting holly]

You could also add that

Flying active item thing

[arctic terrace]

is there any cheat to make chest cost 0

[upbeat panther]

first run on comedy island, totally underprepared

[drifting holly]

Idk but there is captains hack beacon for that

You could always do run with 3 other captains

With 2 hack beacons each

And just hack all

[supple widget]

free chest run

fuck spending gold

[drifting holly]

I mean would be funny to see e

Or like 4 captains with 2 heal beacons each

Possibly making field of immortality

[supple widget]

80% heal per second

[drifting holly]

And with one shot protection

[supple widget]

and add microbots to that lol

[trail hollow]

i feel like hack/heal is probably the best build

the shock is pretty bad

[upbeat panther]

hack beacon early game is kinda useful, but after stage 4-5 I just use it to do dmg lol

[drifting holly]

Shock needs range buff to be considered at all

[supple widget]

shock is legit

[trail hollow]

the shock range is just so small

[upbeat panther]

Shock needs range buff to be considered at all
agreed

[drifting holly]

Meanwhile hacking gold chest in hell be like

[arctic terrace]

tazer needs to be chained like ukulele

[old ledge]

drop a hack on a chance shrine, guaranteed 2 items. Or on the gold chest. However, the shock IS a perma stun lock.

[drifting holly]

Well problem with shock is

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i place shock on the healing beacon to get free of enemies

[drifting holly]

It's perma stun lock that mostly gets melee ground units

[trail hollow]

Meanwhile hacking gold chest in hell be like
@drifting holly does this actually work?

[upbeat panther]

@drifting holly does this actually work?
@trail hollow yup

[drifting holly]

@trail hollow it makes gold chest 0 cost

[old ledge]

Until you attack them. It lets you leave an enemy till later.. but it doesn't work on anything larger than a golem, doesnt work on fliers and has a tiny aoe

[vocal mason]

yes

[trail hollow]

damn

[drifting holly]

Well yes but problem with shock is it helps with something that isn't big problem in first place

[old ledge]

honestly until you unlock the hack? double heal

[trail hollow]

Well yes but problem with shock is it helps with something that isn't big problem in first place
@drifting holly this exactly

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hack seems so fun

[trail hollow]

most of the time you just shock beetles

[drifting holly]

If it had more range to at least get a wisp down I'd consider it

[upbeat panther]

hack is actually pretty useful to rush early stages

[old ledge]

yeah i'm agreeing with you. It's kind of useful but frankly nine times out of 10 you don't need the enemies stunlocked that the shock drone can actually stunlock

[supple widget]

kinda infuriating when wisps oneshot you as cap

[old ledge]

the equipment recharge is cool but past stage 3 equipment is like, less of a concern?

[trail hollow]

cap with afterburner feels pretty crazy

[drifting holly]

Kinda infuriating when wisps one shot you as anything

[upbeat panther]

does shock do dmg at all?

[honest lion]

Is shock longer than stun?

[upbeat panther]

cap with afterburner feels pretty crazy
@trail hollow maestro vibes

[trail hollow]

you drop 9 orbitals on a boss and they just die

[drifting holly]

Also ya lads should try hammer captain

[upbeat panther]

insta proc

[drifting holly]

You basically shred armour in one shot lol

[upbeat panther]

b e a t i f u l

[trail hollow]

yeah hammer cap is crazy

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i got a god run with afterburner and lots of cd reduction until i fell in COMEDY ISLAND

[old ledge]

okay but like, shatterspleen crit captain

[drifting holly]

Captain scales pretty damn well with all on hit items

[old ledge]

immediate massive bleeding per shot

[drifting holly]

Did try it

[upbeat panther]

scythe procs per pellet right?

[drifting holly]

Leech seeds also proc per pellet

[upbeat panther]

i got a god run with afterburner and lots of cd reduction until i fell in COMEDY ISLAND
@supple widget O O F

[cyan magnet]

Does anyone have a good screenshot of softlock island? Need it for a meme

[trail hollow]

microbots also scale with attack speed

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oh yeah the super leech item on cap is so op

[trail hollow]

captain with a stack of syringes is nuts

[drifting holly]

Altho captain himself scales bad with atk speed

[upbeat panther]

i mean

[trail hollow]

yeah but projectile attacks no longer exist

[supple widget]

fuck attack speed, get drones for microbots

[dull ingot]

is the hack beacon even good?

[upbeat panther]

blowing projectiles is just...
g o o d

[supple widget]

its meta

[old ledge]

also does purity work with visions of heresy?

[drifting holly]

Hack and heal is best

Also double heal is good

[dull ingot]

ok

[upbeat panther]

dunno

[old ledge]

IIRC Captain does do OK with attack speed but his shotgun is jank with it and the main uses are faster aiming and faster probes

[dull ingot]

what is the 3rd beacon

[old ledge]

along with faster drone friend

[drifting holly]

Equipment reset or smt didn't even try to touch it

[dull ingot]

ewww

[drifting holly]

Maybe if you got good MulT friend it's worth a shot

[trail hollow]

yeah just equip cool down reset

[upbeat panther]

what is the proc coef from Cap shotgun?

how much*

[drifting holly]

Tbh what if they removed equipment beacon and remade it as basically better version of protective bot captain has that protects zone from projectiles

Would be more useful then shock

[polar anvil]

@upbeat panther 0.75

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oh shit, slugcat

[upbeat panther]

thx

[trail hollow]

what do y’all think of captains M2

[supple widget]

sucks..

[drifting holly]

M2 is cool

[upbeat panther]

what do y’all think of captains M2
@trail hollow useful to hit maestro

[trail hollow]

i wish the projectile was bigger

[drifting holly]

Let's you do prolonged stun on tanky enemies

[supple widget]

m2 on multiplayer is useless

[drifting holly]

Hit box could be buffed a bit

[trail hollow]

it’s just so small

[drifting holly]

Also I hate that it's stun is interupted by on hits late game

It becomes useless quite fast

It's not even a stun but interrupt at best

[trail hollow]

and it does garbage damage

[loud scroll]

m2 is trash, small, no damage, any damage knocks things out of stun, doesnt work on bosses

[upbeat panther]

Let's you do prolonged stun on tanky enemies
@drifting holly 2-3 m1 + Shift + m2 on stone golem

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yeah, all damage effects remove it

[drifting holly]

@drifting holly 2-3 m1 + Shift + m2 on stone golem
@upbeat panther oh yes

[upbeat panther]

he can't move, problem solved

[drifting holly]

But that works early only

Get one tri tip dagger and rip your stuns

[upbeat panther]

big oof

[drifting holly]

I'd rather have it do 0 damage but guarantees stun of like 3 seconds on non boss enemies

[supple widget]

one acrid/arti/bleed/literally 1hp worth of damage= rip cap's m2

[drifting holly]

I feel like m2 punishes me for getting items lol

[supple widget]

getting stun grenade on shotty is better than m2

[drifting holly]

Littelary true

[upbeat panther]

m2 just doesn't feel it rewarding enough when u hit it

[supple widget]

hard as hell to hit too

[drifting holly]

Wait it rewards for hitting it?

[upbeat panther]

lol reality hurts

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lmao

[drifting holly]

I mean it is cool early

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if m2 was good captain at least wouldnt be so bland in hidden realms

[drifting holly]

But bloody wind interupts it late

[old ledge]

okay like

[upbeat panther]

Cap in hidden realms = biggest O O F

[supple widget]

i hate it

[old ledge]

i get why the r and shift don't work in hidden realms but like.. surely having half your kit gone is a bit much for lore reasons???

[loud scroll]

captain kinda sucks ill keep saying it

[old ledge]

There's such a thing as sacrificing for the sake of gameplay!

[loud scroll]

hes average at best

[supple widget]

he's strong

[drifting holly]

Also having your m2 be so easy to interrupt with pittiful damage doesn't help at all

[dull ingot]

is it even fucking possible to do all artifacts with captain

[old ledge]

it would be so inconsequential, yeah it'd make no sense but who would actually care, seriously?

[supple widget]

his shotgun is insane

[drifting holly]

It's basically m1 spam with thinking where to put beacon

M2 needs to actually have some weight in his kit

[upbeat panther]

Cap may not be that good
but pretty fun to play tho

[loud scroll]

his m1 is all he has imo

[drifting holly]

I mean m1 is amazing and all but at least remove damage on m2 and make it really be stun

[runic finch]

@old ledge https://discordapp.com/channels/417739215355510784/559901453834256404/743176026103742496

[supple widget]

beacons are so strong

[drifting holly]

I mean healing beacon is only one strong

[loud scroll]

m2's damage is so shit it doesnt matter if they remove it

[supple widget]

hack beacon too

[drifting holly]

Hack is highly dependant

[loud scroll]

the new content this update feels rushed

[bronze turret]

Only got back home today and I'm now trying out the no longer early access Risk of Rain 2

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it does, yoshi

[drifting holly]

It can be useless and somewhat useful depending on your luck and map

[bronze turret]

The intro thingy I thought was VERY cool

Only read the logs, gonna start a run now

[supple widget]

careful with comedy island owl

[bronze turret]

With what

[supple widget]

you'll know when you see it

[drifting holly]

I'd just ask for range buff on all beacons that ain't healing one