gd2-nullified

[small estuary]

Mostly it goes like this:
Stands still, OSP procs. Insta heal to full

[dense pendant]

war banner got changed? how

[dull ingot]

now warbanner is like, good

[indigo citrus]

Can we get more than 4 people on a game or was that left out?

[robust stump]

enjoy the nerfed OSP omegalul

[astral bobcat]

You always drop a warbanner when you use a teleporter

[wheat maple]

Is the guy with the hammer the finall boss? Bcs i almost killed him in my first ever run with commando

[dense pendant]

oh wOw

[spring crow]

honestrly we should just spam until the soft lock gets fixed 😉

[robust stump]

yeah warbanner is good to pick up

[astral bobcat]

So you always have one for teleporters

[dense pendant]

that is good

[dull ingot]

@wheat maple yes

[wheat maple]

Lol

[spring crow]

2 runs now I've gotten soft locked

[astral bobcat]

It's real good to always get unless your like loader and constantly moving

[robust stump]

it’s not even a soft lock

[dense pendant]

my turrets are siphoning each other lmfao

[robust stump]

you can jump out of it at the right angle

[small estuary]

I still see warbanmer as scrapper fuel

[robust stump]

oh for sure

warbanner is nice but it’s not something that will be a run changer so into the scrapper it goes

[dense pendant]

can i scrap this boss item?

[robust stump]

probably

[small estuary]

Yes

[dense pendant]

I want to

[clear token]

wasted 5 hours of my life to die to 2 new bugs 1 shit map design and 1 crash

[astral bobcat]

If you don't wanna get softlocked then don't go to the final area until you have some mobility like feathers

[oblique temple]

does anyone know the whole achievements list in the files?

[clear token]

fuck yeah

[small estuary]

You can scrap every tier with a printer

[robust stump]

if you don’t wanna get softlocked just don’t go to the cauldrons lol

[astral bobcat]

That too

[clear token]

thanks that helps a lot

[astral bobcat]

Don't fall lol

[dull ingot]

except lunar and equipment @small estuary

[silk zealot]

don't fall

[robust stump]

don’t fall

[small estuary]

They dont have a printer

[dull ingot]

lunars have a cleansing pool

[astral bobcat]

Legit though I'm sure they'll do an update to make it better so you can't just get softlocked

[robust stump]

yeah ofc they will

[slim raptor]

Bow down to your new god. Infinite flight mul-t.

[dense pendant]

are the other boss items good

new ones i mean

[astral bobcat]

Yes

[clear token]

also had to realise that if you take a newt altar on the final map before the boss it teleports you to the first map and not the boss

[astral bobcat]

Bleed is amazing

[robust stump]

yeah they’re good

[small estuary]

Imp boss item is top tier

[dense pendant]

whats it do

[robust stump]

shatterspleen or whatever it’s called is top tier

cries bleed and enemies that die with bleeding on them explode

[dusky walrus]

Hey has anyone gotten to the boss area yet?

[astral bobcat]

Crits guranteed bleed and enemies who die while bleeding explode

Yea I beat the boss twice

[clear token]

i have and got stuck and crashed there once brooms

[dense pendant]

omfg isn't that broken

[slim raptor]

so um. Idk what to do now that I have infinite flight.

[robust stump]

it’s like will-o-the wisp but more efficient lol

and also free bleeding stacks

[slim raptor]

Because theres a dumb barrier at the top of the map as well.

[dusky walrus]

How do you get out of the area with the cauldrens

[robust stump]

Pray

[astral bobcat]

Legit just like, 8 glasses plus that boss item and everything bleeds to death

[clear token]

you mostly dont

i like how its now out of early access and is more buggy than ever

[robust stump]

does will-o-the wisp proc when an enemy dies and explodes cause of splatterspleen or

[slim raptor]

lmao

[robust stump]

or whatever it’s called

[dusky walrus]

So you are stuck forever?

[slim raptor]

You actually can get out o the cauldron area

[astral bobcat]

It's clear they just didn't have enough time to thoroughly playtest

[slim raptor]

But its like, hell.

[robust stump]

it’s fine they’ll fix it quick

[dense pendant]

final boss is that special teleporter right?

[astral bobcat]

But yea they'll fix stuff quick

[slim raptor]

I had to do some tricky timed abilities with huntress.

[robust stump]

primordial one yeah

[alpine fossil]

any of yall have a link to the ror2 unlocker

[dense pendant]

it looks super cool

[dusky walrus]

What if a friend is playing captain?

[robust stump]

L

[dense pendant]

Is captin good?

[clear token]

im glad they will but even if they did 1 full run through the game they would have noticed some of the shit map design

[astral bobcat]

Not really

[dusky walrus]

Will we teleport to the arena if most of the players are in the boss arena

[robust stump]

Captain is pretty alright but he requires on hit items and lots of mobility to REALLY shine

[dense pendant]

that's too bad

[dusky walrus]

?

[astral bobcat]

Some characters don't make a difference, but others yea

[small estuary]

Captain wants to be rex but with more options

[robust stump]

he’s not reliable if you’re looking for reliability but he’s pretty fun

[ivory depot]

yeah hes fun

[astral bobcat]

Rundown of captain, decent but fun, can't increase attack speed, get afterburners.

[alpine fossil]

nothing really beats engi reliability

[robust stump]

his biggest weakness is that he falls off lategame if you don’t get specific items

[astral bobcat]

Afterburners is his biggest carry

[tired juniper]

void fields second vent blazing mini mushrums with glasses

[robust stump]

if you don’t have some mobility and on-hits by stage 5 id just reset

[tired juniper]

i dislike this void fields already

[small estuary]

He is also very tall which makes him the best instantly

[slim raptor]

^^

[silk zealot]

yes

the captain is a man lost in a boy's world

[slim raptor]

He has a shotgun too, which makes him also the best

[astral bobcat]

Also I'm honestly glad they chose him over the other options, he just fits so perfectly

though I loved the other options too

[small estuary]

What he lacks in power, he makes up for with style

[astral bobcat]

And explosions

[dusky walrus]

Will it tp all ally's to the arena if the majority of players are in the arena? or will it only activate the boss if all the peeps are in there?

[small estuary]

Boom

[ivory depot]

#behemothcaptain=explosiveshotgun

[robust stump]

oh behemoth on Captain is absolutely phenomenal

[foggy wyvern]

tru

[small estuary]

Behemoth captain is explosive explosions

[silk zealot]

splatterspleen

[robust stump]

shut up don’t mock me

[astral bobcat]

I just find him incredibly fun. He has one of the most enjoyable primaries to use

[robust stump]

i gots the dyslexia 💔

[wispy marlin]

i wonder what all counts for 10 different environments, 7 stages, void, halcyon, final boss?

[robust stump]

@wispy marlin any area is an environment

[astral bobcat]

Dont bother, his alts suck

[wispy marlin]

so even the lunar place nice

[robust stump]

yeah

[astral bobcat]

Just run double heal

[robust stump]

just run double heal [2]

[astral bobcat]

It's sad

[ivory depot]

everything counts for 10 different i think

[robust stump]

shock sure is nice but wow it’s useless

[hollow kraken]

Nkuhanas plus double heal is bananas

[tired juniper]

mini mushrums and brass contraptions with glasses and crowbars...lovely

[dense pendant]

wow the bad item works really well w/ razorwire

[tired juniper]

why does this void fields do me like this

[robust stump]

yes

[dense pendant]

Guess it's another item combo only engie can use

[astral bobcat]

I wish they would've just made one of his alts a turret or a drone or something

[ivory depot]

please have hoopoo feather please

well frick.

[robust stump]

sheep you’re literally using loader

[astral bobcat]

You donr need feather with loader lol

[ivory depot]

its easier with feather reeeeeeeeee

[astral bobcat]

She's a goddess there

[robust stump]

just swing over again

[supple widget]

lol

loader is like the only one that doesn't need any items to get through that map

[small estuary]

Merc

[astral bobcat]

I'm pretty sure the map is just missing a jump pad or something

[robust stump]

i don’t personally use loader too often because it’s dependant on some items imo

[tawdry lance]

so you gotta do 2 cycles before going to the moon?

[still needle]

look at my items

[dull ingot]

@tawdry lance no

[robust stump]

no you can do one

[willow cedar]

i've killed boss, but i still don't understand how exactly p3 works...

[still needle]

command but like no whites until now

[astral bobcat]

It sucks your items. And you fight him with nothing

And it gets your items buffs

[dull ingot]

he takes your items, you shoot him, you get your items back

[astral bobcat]

So take glass

[robust stump]

P3 is the easiest phase i wish he didn’t give items back

[tired juniper]

aaaaand now mushrums with glasses and crowbars have chronobaubles

[willow cedar]

he 2 shot me in p3 because i got that little wisp or whatever

[astral bobcat]

You can kill him before he even takes them

[robust stump]

^

[willow cedar]

yea i 1shot him with loader...

but captain couldn't

[astral bobcat]

You have orbital

[dull ingot]

taking tesla coil to the fight was a... fun decision

[astral bobcat]

Did it not do the boom booms?

[willow cedar]

it tickled him

[astral bobcat]

Oh god Tesla

[bright hull]

whats this constant rumbling noise i hear when im in the game? bug or intentional?

[dull ingot]

it wasn't that bad

[astral bobcat]

I now realize what they meant by you choosing to take different items cause of the boss lol

Cause you'd have to fight them

[robust stump]

“oh god Tesla” i think I’d rather him have Tesla over something worse

[willow cedar]

oh, he also had the laser disc thing... UGH

[ivory depot]

phase two... man, this fight feels a lot more epic like this lel

[dense pendant]

whats the little fire ice circle

[willow cedar]

i had so much auto crap...

[dense pendant]

in the bottom left corner

[robust stump]

..? what

[wispy marlin]

the captains alts suck?

[willow cedar]

bottom left is the cooldown for your rings

[dense pendant]

excuse me

[robust stump]

yeah the captain’s alrs suck just use 2 heals

[dense pendant]

what

Why is there a cooldown

[willow cedar]

because that's what they changed, as stated in patch notes and dev notes a week ago

[spiral pawn]

is the logbook location for commencement known?

[dense pendant]

but they were good

now they ain't

[robust stump]

ive never looked but i don’t think so

actually they’re still pretty good

[desert shadow]

hey, have you guys gotten stuck in the area with all the pools on the moon?

[dense pendant]

but not broken good

[small estuary]

They changed the bands to encourage tactical play

[robust stump]

yes it’s a known bug

i prefer the new bands personally

it makes it feel as good to get a band as it does to get a ukelele

especially when you’re using w character like loader or rex

[willow cedar]

the controllable burst is really nice

[dull ingot]

Loader + bands feel great

[willow cedar]

instead of dominating a wisp...

[ivory depot]

dangit

[small estuary]

F

[dull ingot]

F

[ivory depot]

hey, i got two logs tho'

[robust stump]

like i prefer that it’s a 100% proc chance

[willow cedar]

first time i did boss, i had enough bears that i ignored it and had NO idea what was happening...

[narrow sparrow]

Just dont get hit 4head

[dense pendant]

but engineer turrets goes clicky clack

[robust stump]

loader with both bands is incredible now

[ivory depot]

also wow that fight felt more like a traditional boss fight

[narrow sparrow]

Rip my clover bands

[ivory depot]

i was whittling down the health, i had to be near perfect with dodging, and recovering hp was difficult.

[supple widget]

yeah the final boss is very fun, especially with merc

[dull ingot]

Bands + loader and 2 shaped glass blew up the boss in one hit for me felts so good

[ivory depot]

ah i bet merc is so amazing

[narrow sparrow]

New pot item is sick

[supple widget]

it indeed is, the only way that i actually could fight the boss

[robust stump]

gonna be real with y’all i kinda don’t like merc at all

[narrow sparrow]

Leave

[supple widget]

i have never played dark souls, but it did feel kind dark souls-ish

[robust stump]

i never have

[narrow sparrow]

Genji mains only

[supple widget]

what about risk1?

[robust stump]

yeah i used in risk 1 but i still didn’t enjoy it that much

[ivory depot]

wait mithrix has toes

[robust stump]

“killed by: 3”yeah that’s the mithrix experience

[willow cedar]

oh yea duh, boss didn't take damage from my captain bombs because he probably blocked them with bears... damned traitor bears

[astral bobcat]

Yea it's real sad that Captain's alts suck.

[ivory depot]

ive actually beat him twice lel

[dense pendant]

is gorgas opus good on engi

[ivory depot]

it doesnt register on the log for some reason

[astral bobcat]

I would've rather they had it so he can bring down a big turret or summon drones or something

[willow cedar]

he can

[ivory depot]

yeah

wait what

[willow cedar]

use cooldown to refresh your summon drones item 🙂

[astral bobcat]

no

[dull ingot]

||the final boss did the steal all items thing and stole my Nkuhanas opinion and when he healed i got one shot to -500 ||

[willow cedar]

^

[robust stump]

nkuhana’s opinion officially bad for boss runs pepelaugh

[willow cedar]

maybe that's what killed me, not the wisp running thing

[robust stump]

he doesn’t sprint in P3 right

[dull ingot]

beating the final boss as captain seems very hard lol

[robust stump]

so probably not the wisps

[dull ingot]

i got close just now

[dense pendant]

captains ult seems really good

[astral bobcat]

It's eh

[robust stump]

unless you have godly mobility as Captain i wouldn’t bother

[dull ingot]

does anyone know what the other variants of his R does

[astral bobcat]

They suxk

[robust stump]

i beat the boss as REX so

[dense pendant]

his misc seems pretty nice as well, do they stack if they're the same variant?

[robust stump]

yeah you can have 2 heals

[astral bobcat]

||one resets equipment cooldowns and the other slowly decreases the cost of purchasables near it to 0||

You're best off taking two heals

[willow cedar]

3 feathers, 80% move speed, captain felt great! also ~5 syringes, 50%+ crit, and few masks... so anyone would feel great with that...

[robust stump]

also you can throw down the heal beacons onto a boss for damage too which is nice

[supple widget]

i dont think they are that bad tbh

[willow cedar]

the m2 is what really kills me as being awful for captain

[dense pendant]

if you stack the purcheses decreasers do they decrease the price at a faster rate

[robust stump]

ive nuked beetle queen by spamming shift and then slamming the beacons on her

[astral bobcat]

Idk

[supple widget]

we're talking about it in #ror2-game-questions

oh yeah the legendary that gives you more shift charges is insane

i had that and a bandolier in a run, didnt even need my shotgun

[weary dragon]

Can you still go to the moon if you take a blue portal to the shop after Stage 5?

[willow cedar]

yes, you can loop around

[weary dragon]

tyvm

[dense pendant]

does captain start with some item

[willow cedar]

yes, you can actually melt it at a scrapper

[dense pendant]

lmao

[supple widget]

LOL REALLY

[willow cedar]

it gave me the option to, i didn't actually click it

honestly, kind of want to melt it next time because i don't want boss to have it...

[supple widget]

doesnt seem like a very good idea

[dense pendant]

I wish when captain fully reduced his shotgun spread it was one sniper shot instead of a tiny spread

[astral bobcat]

How many times can you reset equipment cooldowns with Captain's ult beacon?

Cause if it's only once than that actual garbage

[willow cedar]

not once... once per stage 😄

[astral bobcat]

Is it seriously only once?

[dense pendant]

how do you work the little drone guy

[astral bobcat]

You don't

He just shoots stuff down automatically

[willow cedar]

the drone item is automatic, it just destroys a TON of projectiles for you

[supple widget]

i dont know yet, i will find out

[dense pendant]

Why would anyone melt that

[willow cedar]

so my projectiles hit boss 😛

[astral bobcat]

Ping me when you find out bunbun

[supple widget]

as you wish

[dense pendant]

Plus I like the little drone

he's cute

[astral bobcat]

I'm genuinely curious, cause if it is only once it's so garbage

[supple widget]

btw, could you tell me what's the requirement for unlocking it?

[astral bobcat]

Cause batteries exist, and don't take an ability slot

[supple widget]

i play on a low res and cant read shit lol

[sharp zenith]

I mean I guess it’s ok for the Preon

[astral bobcat]

One is you have to get the prototype drone and the other unlock is getting to all the areas as him, not in the same run I don't think

[supple widget]

okay

the giant drone that looks like a helicopter?

[dense pendant]

You know what would be cool? If the drone had different varients, like a healer, attacker, and his defensive variant(blocks projectiles like the normal one)

[sharp zenith]

Yes

[astral bobcat]

Yep

[willow cedar]

yes in the same run

[supple widget]

i always wanted to get that thing lol

this will be fun, if you want, dm me so i remember to do this

[astral bobcat]

Why are you not doing it now? Lol

[supple widget]

ping you, im gonna do it rn

[astral bobcat]

Ah okie

[dull ingot]

||im sad that attack speed doesnt reduce the animation on the m1 for Captain ||

[willow cedar]

okay it's 3 charges

[astral bobcat]

I think it's a fair balance, cause his utility is super strong

[willow cedar]

@dull ingot it does

[astral bobcat]

That's really eh

[dull ingot]

really?

thats hype if it does

[astral bobcat]

It doesn'

[willow cedar]

yes, i had 6 syringes, and 7 crit attack speed stacks

[dull ingot]

it feels like he needs it or he does no dmg

[astral bobcat]

It only makes him aim faster, not reload each shot faster

[willow cedar]

it reduced both the charge time and the overall attack time

[ocean edge]

so, for those of you who don't know how to loop

[astral bobcat]

@supple widget apparently it's 3 charges which still kinda sucks but I guess it's alright

[supple widget]

oh

[dull ingot]

oh wtf

[astral bobcat]

Thanks blast

[supple widget]

is that 3 charges per player?

[willow cedar]

no, per beacon

[astral bobcat]

No clue

[dull ingot]

when you take the blue portal on the second to last stage it also loops you

[willow cedar]

you 'use' the beacon to get a charge

[supple widget]

oh

[dull ingot]

i didnt know that first time

[astral bobcat]

So then the only good one is heal and that one is eh

[supple widget]

the zap one is kinda nice

[astral bobcat]

Not late game

[supple widget]

i think it stuns enemies

[dull ingot]

zap is good but not for final boss

[supple widget]

not sure, havent played a lot

[astral bobcat]

The equipment I guess is good for bosses

Like spamming 4 charges of backup

Or of bfg

[chrome garnet]

Well i just learn the hard way not to combine Soulbound Catalyst with Forgive Me Please!! They stack on them selfs till your game crashes

[astral bobcat]

Ok it's decent

[supple widget]

bfg

[tired juniper]

does sky meadows have both the primordial and teh regular teleporter?

or does the primordial replace the normal one

[astral bobcat]

Big green blast of death that I can't remember the name of

[quick hearth]

@tired juniper

You can change they way of the tp

[compact wasp]

You can combine soulbound catalysts with Forgive me Please UNLESS you have gesture of the drowned in which case you will die

[ocean edge]

@tired juniper

[astral bobcat]

@tired juniper only primordial but you can activate the totem things around it to make it a normal teleporter

someone should pin that or something

[quick hearth]

Bro why is the last boss hard

[ocean edge]

it's a final boss

[astral bobcat]

You can cheese it apparently

[obsidian lark]

Has anymore found the log for the last stage yet?

[ocean edge]

just play as rex

[dull ingot]

||is there a way to get more than 1 microbot on captain?||

[chrome garnet]

Yep i had like 11 gestures.. it was over before i even realised what i done

[tired juniper]

overloading worm stage 5 lmao

[dull ingot]

cause the description makes it sound like u can

[quick hearth]

Well i main most commando

[astral bobcat]

@dull ingot yes but I'm not sure how

[quick hearth]

Soo yeah soo yeah

[tired juniper]

i didn't think one mountain shrine would spawn an overloading worm at stage 5 36 minutes in

[astral bobcat]

@quick hearth want me to share the cheese strat for boss?

[quick hearth]

I got an overloading worm on stage 5 with 3 mountai shrines

[dull ingot]

is the 2nd to last stage boss for anyone else always elite enemys and not a boss?

[quick hearth]

No no no cheasing

[astral bobcat]

Oof

[quick hearth]

Frick off

[astral bobcat]

Alright no worries

Sorry

[quick hearth]

Cheesing is not a way of playing

[astral bobcat]

I feel the same

[quick hearth]

I mean it can be

But its unfun

[astral bobcat]

I didn't use it but some people do so

[compact wasp]

Imagine having to kill your Vengeance character or use shrine of order to get more Microbots

[obsidian lark]

Some characters have an easier time with the last boss than others

[quick hearth]

I got to stage 2 as commando ,_,

[compact wasp]

Engineer during the boss fight: yar yar daz

[zinc kernel]

it still says I haven't gotten the microbots yet

[compact wasp]

You need to pick it up

[zinc kernel]

uh how do I do that

[quick hearth]

Forgive me is op

[obsidian lark]

Yes

[quick hearth]

Change my mind

[compact wasp]

Go drizzle, artifact of vengenance, play captain, wait 10 minutes

[zinc kernel]

oh fun

[dull ingot]

Artificer is a cheese for the FB

[compact wasp]

I would also turn on artifact of kin and restart until beetle only

Also do not pick up items

[quick hearth]

Michael get off of me

If you cheese you're unfun

[compact wasp]

People with gesture of the drowned and royal capacitor be like

[quick hearth]

That's even worst

[compact wasp]

The only way to cheese the last boss effectively is with engineer turrets because bungus never loses

[quick hearth]

Just get some ukahanas you will be fine with dps

How to win the last fight with engi

Stack hoof bungus and ukahanas

[compact wasp]

Who is nkahana And what is her opinion

[quick hearth]

Idk

It will be showned in the next episode

to be continued

[compact wasp]

Stage 6 is nkuhana tellling us her opinions

[dull ingot]

Ayo what the fuck is up with the brass contraption spawn rate on the meadow

I've counted like 20 chasing me

[rapid fulcrum]

i am on the moon, but I am stuck in the shop area.

Anyone know how to get out?

[brisk crystal]

u dont

[rapid fulcrum]

dang

[ruby rivet]

How do I loop now? I always get teleported to the final level once I activate the dream teleporter

[brisk crystal]

hit the outside of the tp

shifts it to loop again i assume

[astral bobcat]

@dull ingot randomly when you spawn into new areas it could make it so only one type of enemy spawns, like golems, brass contraptions, wisps, etc.

So that's probably what happened with you

[dull ingot]

there's no brass contraption event tho

[astral bobcat]

Really? Then that must just be some jank luck lol

[hard cargo]

What are your opinions on the new lunar item purity?

[astral bobcat]

What it do?

[hard cargo]

Seams kinda bad

[dull ingot]

haven't got it yet, but may be useful

[hard cargo]

-2 seconds on all skills, but re rolls all procs for an unfavorable outcome

[dull ingot]

some procs

It wasn't that

[rain pond]

i wonder if you have clover and that which one it prioritizes?

[astral bobcat]

Could be useful in a build that doesn't rely on procs. Or a bleed build using the new bleed boss item

[dull ingot]

There were other enemies, just an overabudence of brass contraptions

[astral bobcat]

Never seen that tbh

Probably was just some bad luxk

[hard cargo]

The new bleed item is kinda busted honestly

[dull ingot]

Femurbreaker?

[strong vine]

Has anyone found any good use for the hacking skill

[astral bobcat]

Yeh, only takes like 7 or 8 glasses to make it broken

[dull ingot]

Shatterspleen really is just synonymous to femur breaker innit

[astral bobcat]

@strong vine just to use on area 4 to get a free legendary chest as long as you don't go to the roost

That's it realy

[strong vine]

@astral bobcat is that worth it though

[astral bobcat]

No

[dull ingot]

i wonder if you have clover and that which one it prioritizes?
@rain pond i'm sure that they cancel eachother out

[astral bobcat]

Better off taking the heal or equipment one with some strong equipment

Like the bfg

The resupply one let's you reset your equipment cooldowns 3 times

So it can be really strong with equipment like the bfg or buzzsaw

[tired juniper]

eeee

is it just me, or does the dunestrider pull stack when there are multiple ones

i just got yeeted into a moshpit at the speed of sound

and as a typical run goes, i didn't have teddies

[ornate crest]

so how are you supposed to beat the last boss? ||regular run I did no damage to him, command run, didn't get my useful items back in time before his balls oneshot me||

also who's the best class for it

[obsidian lark]

Engineer.

Turrets dont lose items

[ornate crest]

even so he doesn't really have mobility to dodge him

[obsidian lark]

Won't need mobility if turrets are powerful enough to nuke the boss

[ornate crest]

also I'm guessing he ||Uses the items against you||

[high terrace]

||I killed mithrix before he even got out of the start of his steal-items phase.||

Dont understand how you failed a command run against em

[ornate crest]

I got him to half hp

but then ||his balls oneshot me, which I'm guessing because I went 100% crit?||

[subtle latch]

Just demolish everything with stacked stuff bruh.

[tired juniper]

anyone?

[subtle latch]

||DoTs, maybe?||

[dull ingot]

@tired juniper it does

i did it with huntress when he stole my items i just teleported spammed teleport spam over and over lol i had the triple teleport so the balls werent a prob

[ornate crest]

also didn't help that ||I got my items that are useless by themselves/atm back first, aegis, baseplate, warbanner||

[rough totem]

If you don't get a decent mobility item back first thing, GG.

[ornate crest]

the thing is just 1 clipped me and oneshot me

probs because 100% crit

[rough totem]

Yeah, the fight is basically just luck. No strategy to change, no way to adapt. It's bad design.

[ornate crest]

I really hope they patch it

especially that area that you can softlock at if you have shit mobility

[twin cove]

what are the chances of me getting a world spawn legendary chest on abyssal depths

[rough totem]

Mmmm that area being the way it is is a massive oversight

[lean moon]

Idk i liked it.

[ornate crest]

the fight?

[lean moon]

Yeah

It was intense, fun, and well paced.

[ornate crest]

IF you had the right items

[rough totem]

Who did you play as?

[ornate crest]

otherwise its a slog/oneshot

[lean moon]

I played as loader/mul-T and Huntress

[dull ingot]

you can jump over his attacks y'know

[lean moon]

beat it on all 3

[ornate crest]

not the star wave wall one

[lean moon]

Yeah literally even one hoopo feather or just using your shift ability works for most of his attacks

[ornate crest]

and if you have shit mobility, good luck dodging it

[lean moon]

I'd say the whole final mission was probably the best in the game

[rough totem]

I hope he gives me back a hopoo feather then.

[ornate crest]

and his star pattern attack went twice before my blink was off cool down

[subtle latch]

The legendary chest on abyssal depths is a guaranteed spawn, even on Sacrifice artifact.

[outer spoke]

Hey so how did they buff acrid

[rough totem]

Did they buff acrid?

[dull ingot]

read patchnotes

[ornate crest]

they gave regen 10% hp if you land a 3rd attack

dunno if it's really that good

[outer spoke]

Oh

[dull ingot]

you also regen 10% hp with the bite

[outer spoke]

OH

[ornate crest]

tried him again, died 1st stage because I would die because meele character

is that the unlocked skill?

[dull ingot]

m2, yes

[ornate crest]

because I barely play him and don't have his unlocks

I don't like meele

[outer spoke]

Well he is a hit and run survivor

[hollow plinth]

well they didn't fix The Exploit™️ so he's still good in melee

[outer spoke]

The thing is

They dident

[hollow plinth]

they did fix the exploit or they didn't fix the exploit

[dull ingot]

animation cancelling?

[outer spoke]

You can still m1 cancel with sprint

[dull ingot]

no

[subtle latch]

There are so many Exploit™️ in ROR2, but since the 1.0 update dropped, they're intended game design, since ROR2 1.0 is perfect.

[dull ingot]

but that exploit doesn't let you heal from the third attack

so it's balanced, i guess

[outer spoke]

But it gives you a reason to go for the third hit

[hollow plinth]

doesnt matter. your dps is higher so it's better

[dull ingot]

no?

[hollow plinth]

yes

[dull ingot]

dps doesn't mean better

[hollow plinth]

damage damage damage

[dull ingot]

you're doing something wrong then

[subtle latch]

But hey, Shaped Glass is no longer game-breaking OP!

[ornate crest]

how so?

[hollow plinth]

you dont' get oneshot prot if you have it

[dull ingot]

read patchnotes

[ornate crest]

I think it was balanced before

[subtle latch]

Shaped Glass, or anything that gives you enough "curse" removes OSP.

[ornate crest]

you barely lived anyways

[subtle latch]

Well no.

[dull ingot]

you were able to constantly maintain osp due to low health

[ornate crest]

yes because 10 hp or whatever you had left is totally gonna save you

[outer spoke]

Can someone send the patch notes

Please

[dull ingot]

#announcements

[subtle latch]

You lived even longer with shaped glass, because nuts and scythes were able to bring you back up to full hp easier.

[ornate crest]

didn't really notice it doing that

[hollow plinth]

before, when you had OSP with glass, if you had 10 HP then any hit woud trigger OSP and leave you at like 10 HP

because at 10 HP all hits are oneshots and you had oneshot protection

[subtle latch]

so you just survived off of OSP unless something like a double wisp hit just removed you from existence.

[ornate crest]

still got oneshot, but then again, I didn't really use it, my friend mostly did

[dull ingot]

two tonic afflictions also remove osp now (if you don't have perma tonic)

[hollow plinth]

brooch also had osp so if you killed an enemy you had perma full hp

[dull ingot]

who cares about osp anyways

[subtle latch]

What do y'all think of the 3 new lunars? (random warbanner, reverse clover, combat shrine invocator)

[hollow plinth]

interesting but underwhelming

[dull ingot]

warbanner - pretty good, clover - haven't found, shrine - underwhelming

[fossil charm]

what's the upside of purity?

[subtle latch]

Obviously, lunars aren't supposed to be instapicks on everything.

[dull ingot]

-2s to all cd

[fossil charm]

oh wow

[bright parrot]

buuuuttt its inverse clover

[subtle latch]

Purity is an additively stacking alien head that gives you -1 clover effect.

[shadow jasper]

anyone else experiencing a bug with the Gorag opus? it can be activated, but it doesnt activate or use any charge, just plays the noise.

[dull ingot]

but not every build relies on procs

[bright parrot]

decent chunk of them do, but yes

[dull ingot]

let me guess, you're on captain?@shadow jasper

[shadow jasper]

Correct

[dull ingot]

that's a common bug

[shadow jasper]

Does it work on other characters?

[dull ingot]

yes

[subtle latch]

Purity seems insane on MAAO, since most proc chains have a chance to just murder you anyways.

[shadow jasper]

Good to know, thank you very much

[ornate crest]

are engineers mobile or stationary turrets better?

[dull ingot]

both

[subtle latch]

Depends on your playstyle

And on if you want to obliterate or fight the final boss.

[verbal heart]

how do you get to the final level?

[ornate crest]

I feel like stationary is better with friends so they have healing

[subtle latch]

Stationaries are stronger, but unless you stack bungus, they're sitting ducks and get decimated by the final boss and stuff like imp overlords.

[dull ingot]

@verbal heart play the game and find out

[ornate crest]

yeah that

[dull ingot]

it's not hidden or anything

[verbal heart]

i have 40 hrs in the game and just want to know, unless its obvious

[subtle latch]

Beat stage 5 and go through the primordial teleporter.

[ornate crest]

at least the mobile turrets can avoid shit

[verbal heart]

does it have to be on a certain difficulty

[ornate crest]

also don't take lunar portal on stage 5

[dull ingot]

but first make sure that teleporter is aligned to the moon

no @verbal heart

[subtle latch]

but the mobile turrets have the most stupid of AIs, unless they got buffed in 1.0

[ornate crest]

I took it with my friend and it looped us again

[true egret]

How's captain

[dull ingot]

fun

[ornate crest]

also is there any time when it's not aligned?

[verbal heart]

wdym aligned to the moon?

[ornate crest]

chat message

[dull ingot]

looks like this

[subtle latch]

You can touch the spikes of the teleporter to change it between moon/loop

[dull ingot]

aligned to the planet - looks basically like normal tp

[ornate crest]

I didn't realize that my first run of the patch

spent 10 minutes looking for it

really?

didn't know that

should I try another command run with engy to try and beat the game?

or huntress?

[vague mirage]

I mean, no rush to beat it

you can always do it normally

[ornate crest]

but I wanna try out the captain

[vague mirage]

fair enough

He is a lot of fun

[dull ingot]

loader might work too

she's fast, she's strong, she can use both bands easily

[ornate crest]

I don't really like meele all that much

feel like I'm too vunerable

so with engy should I go 100% crit attack speed?

and passive healing

whats the best items with mobile turrets?

[dull ingot]

goat hooves

and everything else

[ornate crest]

I also just realized they changed the logo on steam, nice

goot hoves work on the mobiles right?

[dull ingot]

yes

everything works on them

[split forum]

um, my friend is stuck at the final area

he stuck on the side part . w.

[ornate crest]

that's a bug I think

[split forum]

let's gooo

[ornate crest]

if you don't have good mobility to get back you might be softlocked

hopefully they'll patch that real soon

[dull ingot]

it's just a design problem

[robust stump]

it just got overlooked it’s fine

[dull ingot]

they kinda forgot that not every run has headstompers, wax quails and hopoo feathers

[split forum]

lmao

lmaooooo

[slim raptor]

I got the final boss log lmao.

[wide pasture]

Engi with the mired urn and razorwire is just... silly. constant razorwire bursts.

[tropic birch]

The opening cutscene is a conversation between Commando and Captain, right?

Before the events of the game

[dull ingot]

probably a random crew member and captain

[somber kraken]

so deselecting "show started games" doesn't actually work?

[rapid marsh]

Man

I'm loving the captain

[slow tundra]

Important question: does every item have a description now then?

[patent lava]

https://i.imgur.com/VfBHHqZ.png

bruh

[slow tundra]

@dull ingot nice turqoise reference mr balls o tron

[dull ingot]

a man of culture, i see

[foggy wyvern]

Captain is pretty fun, but not having abilities in the void is pretty ass, his shotgun is fun but the charged shot at range should do more dmg, also with having 0 mobility makes certain parts really tedious. His R I wish could be used more maybe like you pick it back up and redeploy it. overall I think he's fun tho

[gilded marsh]

I like the lore aspect of him not being useful in the void

[slow tundra]

That is a massive meem ^

[dull ingot]

he doesn't have his utility and special in any of the hidden realms

so he's kinda having a hard time in ambry, gilded coast and moment whole too

[foggy wyvern]

Lore wise sure makes sense, but gameplay wise, TRASH

[wispy marlin]

is there a reason the equipment piece gorag opus doesn't work on the captain?

you just can't press it

[dull ingot]

yes, it's called a bug

[quick rover]

do some of the items really don't contain any lore?

[foggy wyvern]

What do you guys think of the R, pretty annoying how it's used once per stage, really limits his abilities if you ask me

[strong vine]

what's this?

[torn sand]

Das old, makes tele smaller but charge faster

[dull ingot]

@quick rover yes
@foggy wyvern it allows for more "strategic" playstyle, so i don't mind it
i usually activate them near tp just because they're more useful there

[wispy marlin]

The fact the r is permanent

is amazing

[foggy wyvern]

Can you call it strategic if there's only one good strategy, which is at the tp and everyone should know

[dull ingot]

kinda

[foggy wyvern]

It being permanent is the bit I don't like in a movement heavy game

that's the design sure i'm not a fan, if it could be picked up or something then I think it would be fine

[wispy marlin]

and my gosh his passive is sooo good

[compact wasp]

Good against lemurians mushrooms and brass contraption probably

Doesn’t stop lesser wisps

[foggy wyvern]

It doesnt stop hit scan, but yeah i love his passive

[hard cargo]

I beat the final boss on eclipse

Took 30 minutes

[ornate crest]

I did it, beat the game with engi, this time they melted him before he could even ||steal all items||

[hard cargo]

Nice

But honestly, they should tune his health down a bit

Considering that’s 3 phases of around 100,000 hp

[ornate crest]

||I even played the metroid escape sequence music to fit with the escape||

[hard cargo]

Lol

I also got the new lunar item from beating it

And the captain skin is really cool

[tulip kayak]

welp a save mod that I used to keep my progress between play sessions is now broken

[dull ingot]

@tulip kayak did you make sure to use manual download
mod manager mods do not work right now

[sturdy hamlet]

ok ok, but what if acrid could use the sticky bomb launcher from team fortress two

i think that would be Poggers EPic

[radiant bramble]

https://youtu.be/1kF66YVmsbw I finally finished the video

tried to upload 1 in under a day before the update

[digital mortar]

DAMN that was quick!!!

[radiant bramble]

thank u :D

[digital mortar]

i wont watch yet because i have yet to unlock (trying to complete the unlock condition on monsoon w/ a friend)

[radiant bramble]

niceee have fun! :D

[narrow basin]

the new forgive me please equipment item is kinda busted

[winged arch]

Does anyone know the one mob in the log book between the parent and ||lunar chimera||? I apparently have not encountered it at all... but I have done the|| final boss and even a lunar scavenger|| but there's nothing on the creature?

[tired juniper]

wait does even a single shaped glass just straight up remove osp?

[winged arch]

10% or below

removes the OSP, anything above and your good

[tired juniper]

hmm... i took one shaped glass and it's not showing me the striped part of the health that indicates osp

[winged arch]

Its most likely a glitch, I am referencing the patch notes for that one.

Still if anyone has any information on the log book creatures that would be very appreciated.

[dull ingot]

every % of curse lowers osp threshold by the same %

glass is 50% curse
10% - 50% = no osp

@winged arch it's the final boss

[hollow halo]

i dont listen to the music in any game ever but the soundtrck is sick

[winged arch]

Its not the final boss

I just said I beat the boss, that slot is still locked and if it was the boss he would be by the other boss creatures...

[dull ingot]

here's a screenshot that i found here

[winged arch]

Why is it still lock tf?

[dull ingot]

bug

[winged arch]

Sorry thank you

[dull ingot]

np

[winged arch]

Does it drop off him?

[dull ingot]

i guess so

[winged arch]

unlucky then I got the other lunar your missing

tyty again

[frozen flame]

https://discordapp.com/channels/417739215355510784/559902343068385330/742942772385808449 KEK

[winged arch]

Oh one thing

The area is it actually a radar tower like the book says?

or is it a log book hiden

[dull ingot]

no, it's a book

[rare heart]

So, I get the impression captain's most powerful ability is his M1. Am I the only one?

[dull ingot]

maybe, maybe not

i think his shift is more powerful

[winged arch]

^ specally the hack one

[dull ingot]

that's r

[rare heart]

Like... the beacons for teleporters, and the bombardment for slower targets. Not sure why his M2 exists.

[winged arch]

Oh i change my bindings lol

Well hack is p gud tho

[bright palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633339472439934977/742942448317104189/00b8dfd559c9e82592ca1ca792f73c17.png excuse me, how is this okay?

[dull ingot]

to slow fast targets to nuke them with shift

[rare heart]

I got two stun grenades and my M1 now always stuns if all the pellets hit.

[dull ingot]

@bright palm only 3 times

[bright palm]

oh, okay

I feel like it should say that

[rapid marsh]

Man, i hate dying to void reavers that I literally couldn't even see

[bright palm]

anyways, Glub is right about M2

[dull ingot]

well you're not always going to have 2 stun grens at the start of each game

[subtle latch]

The buffed artificer is quite nutty.

[rare heart]

Perhaps. I can barely hit shit with his M2.

[dull ingot]

it's like with mando's Rs

[winged arch]

i dont even use his m2 tbh

[rare heart]

I'm in the void fields and I find... I'm not really missing his utility and ultimate at all

[dull ingot]

sup fire is good until you get stun and attack speed and frag grenades are good until you get aoe

[rare heart]

Could be the mix of enemies I've gotten so far, but I can just... M1 to stun, stickybomb, and bleed them to death.

[dull ingot]

hopefully hopoo will add more alt skills soon

[sullen sable]

Lol captain can get infinite red scrap by scrapping his passive, he gets it back each stage

[rare heart]

Oh, didn't realize that. Nice.

[dull ingot]

but are you going to need that red scrap?

[rare heart]

||Does the final boss steal it?||

[sullen sable]

True

[bright palm]

||yes||

[sullen sable]

@rare heart Maybe but he gives it back after you kill him which isnt hard

[rare heart]

||Shit||

[bright palm]

you could use the cursed doll to cheese the fight

throw enough with the right items and you can skip the entire last phase

[rare heart]

Another thing I've been wondering... do transmutation pots respect scrap like 3D printers do?

[dull ingot]

yes

[bright palm]

speaking of which, the cursed doll is definitely getting nerfed

[sullen sable]

Transmutation pots?

[rare heart]

I got captain with the buzzsaw, ||he couldn't take my on-hit effects fast enough||

Oh, I love the doll. Knife grenade that gives me money!

[bright palm]

and it can take your skills off cooldown if you have bandoliers

and if you're dumb enough, you can use the thing with soulbound catalyst and a gesture to actually break the game

[sullen sable]

@rare heart what do you mean gives you money?

[dull ingot]

[rare heart]

Ghor's tome.

[sullen sable]

ahhhh, nice

didnt think of that

[fleet topaz]

anyone know any console commands that can help

[rare heart]

||Basically, your ability to take the last phase is dependent on your alpha strike capabilities. For once, something artificer is good at! (I have not played post-buff artificer)||

[dull ingot]

help with what?

[fleet topaz]

the island

[bright palm]

oh, the place people keep getting soft locked at?

[rare heart]

Uhh... loop until you have 5 hopoo feathers.

[fleet topaz]

like flight or low gravity or something with console commands to get someone off it

[rare heart]

If you can make it to those lower platforms that don't go anywhere, go to the other side of them and jump off. It will teleport you back to the top.

That's how I got back as MUL-T, but I also had his mobility ability.

[fleet topaz]

what platforms?

[frosty fjord]

Yah you can get out of the comedy island softlock place as most characters

The exceptions being engineer and captain

Unless you have good mobility

[rare heart]

You know, below the main path? There's some flat surfaces there down below. If you get far enough from the islands, falling off will teleport you back to the main path.

[fleet topaz]

._.

we're engi

[rare heart]

Yea, I fortunately had 4 hopoo feathers on my first run but I swiftly saw the potential to soft lock there.

[fleet topaz]

this is annoying

[rare heart]

How's your horizontal mobility? You just need to get far enough away from the islands to be placed back on the main path.

[fleet topaz]

1 goat hoof and spinal ._.

[sullen sable]

JUST REALIZED CAPTAIN CAN HACK THE LEGENDARY CHESTS LOL

[late grove]

chad captain needs no money for the good stuff

just gotta last 40 years

[cloud current]

[pearl sundial]

Want to know what's fun as Captain. No-Cooldown Chrysalis.

[late grove]

not sure how well it's gonna scale end game

[dull ingot]

hardlight afterburner or brainstalks are p fun

just nuke the planet

[late grove]

just be god and use artifacts

[pearl sundial]

Also two Heal Beacons is kinda disgusting. Nothing like telling things to get lost by healing 20% every second

[late grove]

[pearl sundial]

By the end of this last Monsoon Run I just did, it felt kinda too easy

[rare heart]

Too... campy for me. I put them down by the teleporter, otherwise I forget about them.

[pearl sundial]

Killed the final boss right at the beginning of their last phase. =w='

[rare heart]

They are potent... I just feel like single-use is not a good counter-balance.

[sullen sable]

I may be in progress of a captain god run

[pearl sundial]

I've yet to see what the other two Captain Beacons do. I know one is the Hack

[sullen sable]

Wanna know?

[pearl sundial]

But I don't know what the other is.

Ye

[sullen sable]

Other one resets the cooldown of your equipment when used

[pearl sundial]

....

[sullen sable]

Seems like it could be very strong

[pearl sundial]

Well that's kinda busted?

[rare heart]

Well, you gotta rush back to the beacon to use it.

[sullen sable]

I don't believe you do tbh

[late grove]

[pearl sundial]

Also never get Soulbound Catalyst with Doll and Gesture.

[sullen sable]

I think it might just be as you activate it

What's the souldbound catalyst?

[rare heart]

Reduce equipment cooldown on kill.

[sullen sable]

Oh is that the red skull thing?

[rare heart]

Yea

[dull ingot]

Well that's kinda busted?
it only does so 3 times

[hollow plinth]

wait real shit, what's the doll do?

[sullen sable]

@dull ingot 2*

[pearl sundial]

@sullen sable Reduce Equip Cooldown on Kill. Doll equipment procs the Kill effects

@hollow plinth Procs Kill Effects on Use

[hollow plinth]

wait by what means is it proccing on kill effects?

[pearl sundial]

Yup

[dull ingot]

oh, even 2

[hollow plinth]

does just cause a wisp explosion if you press the button while having a wisp?

[pearl sundial]

Meaning with Soulbound it'll snowball if ya have Gesture and eventually crash your game. >.>'

[rare heart]

It explodes the doll twice a second

[normal sonnet]

"Nooooooo! you can't just intentionally cripple the final character in certain areas for lore reasons!!!"
"Hahahahahaha UES Safe Travels go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"

[hollow plinth]

or does it spawn something in a location that dies?

[normal sonnet]

if you have soulbound and gesture it infinitely loops and throws out a chain of dolls

[pearl sundial]

@hollow plinth It'll proc ANY of the on kill effect items where ever it lands. Meaning you could even use Daggers

[normal sonnet]

yeah daggers are actually the best use of them tbh]

also do on kill effects apply to you as well

[hollow plinth]

oh so you "throw" the doll and then it activates your on kill effects

[pearl sundial]

Basically that Chain of Dolls will crash the game if you get Soulbound. xD

[normal sonnet]

like will it stack up your frost relic?

[rare heart]

The doll is a physical object you throw, once it lands it starts ticking all your on-kill effects.

[normal sonnet]

don't use gesture with doll, basically

[hollow plinth]

is there a cooldown?

[rare heart]

Yea, 45 seconds.

[bright palm]

the doll will stack any non-elite on kill effects as far as I'm aware

[normal sonnet]

yes but soulbound is an on kill cooldown reducer meaning the doll reduces it's own cooldown

[rare heart]

It also gives you infusion orbs for a bit.

[bright palm]

so it'll charge up frost relic, resonance disc, and other things

[normal sonnet]

that's sweet

[pearl sundial]

@normal sonnet No use Gesture.... Just don't Soulbound on it

[normal sonnet]

resonance disk too, that's a good use

[hollow plinth]

wait, for it to cause massive clown fiestas with soulbound gesture, how many times does it proc your on kill effects before the effect of the item ends?

[normal sonnet]

but then you end up seeing soulbound and being forced not to take it

it procs your effects 8 times

[rare heart]

I think it's twice a second for... a bit less than ten seconds.

[normal sonnet]

1 per second

[pearl sundial]

@hollow plinth Enough to snowball it into instantly spawning bout 100 dolls....

[hollow plinth]

fair enough

[pearl sundial]

And crashing your game in the process. xD

[late grove]

just be impossible to crash

[hollow plinth]

so it's basically a knife fountain

[late grove]

all gas no brakes baybeeee

[hollow plinth]

if you don't go full clown fiesta

[bright palm]

gesture, doll, and soulbound will cause an exponential amount of dolls to be thrown out

[pearl sundial]

Also another thing it can do.

Is it can spawn Ammo Caches from Bandolier and Gold Nugs from Tome.

So it can become a Money Printer 👀

[rare heart]

And health orbs from monster tooth, and infusion orbs.

[hollow plinth]

idk i feel like the doll is just poorly designed. onkill effects are so strong that having them on your equipment slot is just

bad news

[pearl sundial]

I mean the only one that's busted to all hell is to use the Dagger with it

[bright palm]

oh, the thing is totally getting nerfed

[normal sonnet]

i need to test the new lunar with huntress triple blink, that seems like it could be a great combo

[pearl sundial]

Cause Dagger fountain go BRRRRRRR

[hollow plinth]

if you have wisps is it just exploding a certain area over and over?

or does the doll move around?

[normal sonnet]

yes

it sits in the same spot

[hollow plinth]

ok

[pearl sundial]

@hollow plinth Yeah it sets a aoe where it lands basically

[bright palm]

it being able to proc soulbound means you can just throw it out to get free barrier and damage out with a rapidly decreasing cooldown on it

[hollow plinth]

how do you unlock it lmao

i didn't find the achievement for it

[rare heart]

My only experience with it was without equipment-affecting items, and that felt balanced. It's just when you throw fuel cells and soulbound catalyst into the mix...

[bright palm]

you die 30 times to unlock the doll

[pearl sundial]

@hollow plinth Doll is got by dieing 20 times

[crimson glacier]

Quick question, I'm trying to avoid spoilers, but is it better to do a loop or two and get a good/great run going before fighting the boss, or should I be trying it on the first loop?

[normal sonnet]

idk for equipment balance, you basically have to ask yourself "is this more op than capacitor" and if it isn't it should be okay

[pearl sundial]

@bright palm 20 not 30

[normal sonnet]

@crimson glacier be fast

[hollow plinth]

is it a lunar item?

[normal sonnet]

you get shit on if you're slow

[bright palm]

@crimson glacier depends on the character

[normal sonnet]

if you're looking to win, do it after stage 5

there is a reason but I won't spoil it

[bright palm]

Acrid can very easily solo the boss so long as you distance yourself when they throw out stronger attacks

[pearl sundial]

@normal sonnet I mean I just ran a Captain Run on Monsoon where I was in HAHAHAHAHAHA......

[crimson glacier]

Like fast fast, or 5 minutes per stage fast?

[normal sonnet]

hahahaha is fine?

[rare heart]

Like... don't loop too much unless you can get some serious alpha strike damage.

[hollow plinth]

im a subscriber to the monkey brain get all the items before leaving strat

[normal sonnet]

@crimson glacier like under 8 minutes per stage if you have decent items and under 5 if you have bad ones

[pearl sundial]

And it was honestly kinda underwhelming cause if you have enough items, it don't really do much

[normal sonnet]

phase 3 basically fucks you harder the further into the run you are

[hollow plinth]

i dont like the fact that captain's autoatack requires spamclicking

[normal sonnet]

so it's really important to be fast

[hollow plinth]

instead of holding down m1

[normal sonnet]

for consistency

[pearl sundial]

Also depends on Artifacts when using those

[hollow plinth]

does the guy ||use your items against you or just steal them?||

[pearl sundial]

I honestly just run Sacrifice and Swarms though tbh

[normal sonnet]

||steals them, i don't think he gets the effects||

sacrifice swarms is ez mode :p

[hollow plinth]

lmao half hp boss ksure

[limpid mango]

how is artificer? is she still kind of meh like she was initially?

[normal sonnet]

yep

[hollow plinth]

artificer is better by comparison since she can use the rings better than everyone else but loader

[normal sonnet]

the nano-bomb buffs are nice but dear lord

the gravity

[hollow plinth]

i'd say commando can too but only if you're good at grenades

[pearl sundial]

@normal sonnet I mean It's easy mode if you are also running Command. Otherwise it's all RNG on if you get any good drops.

[normal sonnet]

it really ruins a lot of artificer gameplay

huntress procs bands the worst, especially if you have arrow rain

[hollow plinth]

i'm too busy spazzing out to get to the final boss even with command

[normal sonnet]

she can only proc bands on the 7th bounce of glaive or from a ballista shot

[hollow plinth]

i play multitude 6 for a relaxing time, but i spaz out on multitude 1 command for no reason

[normal sonnet]

love arrow rain being worse than before.... lol

[hollow plinth]

[pearl sundial]

Captain is really good to have Bands on tbh

Cause he just kinda insta-procs them

[hollow plinth]

can't atg missiles proc bands?

[normal sonnet]

yes they can

[hollow plinth]

there's my commando strat then

[pearl sundial]

Bleed and Crit build is also stupid on any Survivor tbh

[hollow plinth]

bleed is completely fucked

i killed a shitty fucking giant jellyfish before it could do anything

[pearl sundial]

They legit made Bleed a tad too OP imo.

[hollow plinth]

because command for 7 daggers stage 1

[radiant bramble]

https://youtu.be/kCIvdsHB-2g

I had to re-upload it, sorry for posting it again, had to delete the old 1

love u guys <3

[hollow plinth]

the only thing i dislike about captian is his lack of mobility

[normal sonnet]

||if you have insane DPS you can kill Mithrix before he takes all your items away||

[pearl sundial]

@hollow plinth Bleed Crit Build with Splatterspleen is big funni.

[normal sonnet]

which is of course remedied by never getting hit by projectiles

[hollow plinth]

i'm used to dashjumping around with commando

and doing blink fall damage cancels off of cliffs

[normal sonnet]

us arty mains already know what having no mobility feels like

ok noted

[hollow plinth]

meanwhile the adhd addled commando/huntress/merc main brain

[solemn swallow]

is there a spoiler chat?

[pearl sundial]

I'm normally a Engi Main.... So.... Mobility is legit none. ;w;

[hollow plinth]

i can't use any dashes why bother playing

[pearl sundial]

But tbh I might start maining Captain now as well

[hollow plinth]

captain's shotgun doesnt seemt o have too low of a proc coeff either i noticed

[normal sonnet]

uh

it works in a strange way

each fire has a proc coefficient, instead of each bullet

[hollow plinth]

healing on scythe being reduced to 6 per pellet seems to indicate around .75

[normal sonnet]

or maybe each bullet has a proc coefficient but you can only proc items like atg once per shot

[pearl sundial]

Odd fact. Stacking Attack Speed on Captain makes it basically so that you can snipe just by clicking instead of holding down. xD

[hollow plinth]

yea

[normal sonnet]

yeah it decreases the reload and the zoom speed

[hollow plinth]

but his passive is worded so poorly it infuriates me

[normal sonnet]

it's nice

if only arty got that treatment :(

[hollow plinth]

what do you mean by passively gains minibots? how do i passively gain more minibots?

poopoo games work with me here

[normal sonnet]

it's worded horribly but what it means is

you get 1 bot at the start of the run

and if you scrap it

you get another one next floor

you can only have 1

[pearl sundial]

@normal sonnet From my experience, each bullet has a chance to proc. This was found by just having like 10 tri-tips and a Clover. Would legit just proc bleed via almost every pellet that hit. 👀

[normal sonnet]

@pearl sundial true, scythe crits do seem to heal an incredible amount

[hollow plinth]

yea it's 6 per pellet

it's pretty wild for an 8 bullet blast

[pearl sundial]

Healing Seed as well is nice to make yourself godly

[normal sonnet]

each bullet seems to have about a 0.6 or 0.8 proc chance

somewhere around Mul-t's nailgun

[hollow plinth]

i'm putting the range around .75

based only on what i saw the healing number from 1 scythe crit was

[normal sonnet]

well crits work differently to normal proc chances

[pearl sundial]

Seed+Scythe=Tank Mode Captain. Almost sad cause it makes the Healing Beacons really pointless once you also factor in a Crit/Bleed Build ontop of the healing items

[normal sonnet]

crits work based on attack not based on individual bullets

so if you crit, every pellet is always going to crit

if you don't crit, none of the pellets will crit

like how the huntress primary 2 is coded

the crit is calculated before you even attack

[hollow plinth]

not the crit

the healing i got per bullet from a scythe crit

[frozen lintel]

is there any way to filter for a game that hasn't started yet?

[normal sonnet]

yeah well scythe is based on each instance of "crit damage" that you deal so it'll heal you for each pellet

[hollow plinth]

but talking about the healing number

[normal sonnet]

ah right

[hollow plinth]

which is modified by proc coeff

[normal sonnet]

like how much you heal from scythe

[hollow plinth]

yes

[normal sonnet]

i don't remember if that's true?

i know for leeching seed it is, not sure if scythe does that

[hollow plinth]

it def is. mult definitely didnt heal for 8 per bullet with his nailgun

if he had scythe 100% crits

[normal sonnet]

and you healed 6 hp?

per pellet