#gd2-nullified

1 messages Ā· Page 4 of 1

knotty laurel
#

Just scroll up there and you'll get the image

proper saddle
#

The more you know

dull ingot
#

wanna hear controversial opinion? For some reason ror2 ost isn't doing it for me you know?

calm mirage
#

this is the safe chat

dull ingot
#

1st one was a banger, this one... dunno, just a thing in the background.

shut jewel
#

how much regret does penguin have

calm mirage
#

the bunker

dull ingot
minor estuary
#

ok but chris remixed that track and made it infinitely better

dense pumice
#

Didn't do the same to my love Surface Tension tho 😦

minor estuary
#

my opinion is right.

calm mirage
#

risk of rain

dull ingot
#

good game. give it a try.

#

fuck that, I ain't clicking it again. šŸ˜„

neat palm
#

I’m scared

#

The reactions will be this servers downfall

plush garnet
#

Your thoughts on cap?

neat palm
#

I think he’s cool

#

I would have liked to see weaver but they got me excited

plush garnet
#

Can't wait to see the ending too

slate flower
#

Do we know anything about cap ?

plush garnet
#

Yeah

#

The loadout looks cool to me so far

broken ginkgo
#

He’s a new survivor that will have charge related primary attack. Most likely the longer you hold your charge the tighter spread of a shotgun would be

slate flower
#

Is there any link where I can see his spells ?

plush garnet
broken ginkgo
#

There’s no vid of his gameplay, only devs notes

#

Commando will remain beautiful and it’s all what I carefrogmando

slate flower
#

Thanks guys !

plush garnet
#

@broken ginkgo I can agree

neat palm
#

Same

#

I’m hoping he’ll synergize well with commando, it’s sounding like he’s gonna synergize with everyone but it’s good to see another brother in arms

hollow pawn
#

@broken ginkgo would you like if phase round was buffed?

broken ginkgo
#

Phase round is just doesn’t fit to commandos playstyle, it forces players to snipe monsters from far away in result suffering from damage fall-off and in result dealing pathetic dmg

pearl hedge
#

have it double its damage for every enemy it hits

broken ginkgo
#

This skill should have entire rework to not force player to stick in mid-long range

#

Which is completely ineffective way to play commando

neat palm
#

Agreed

broken ginkgo
#

The ability that it can penetrate through terrain looks interesting, but I can garantee you that this is the most situational attribute in entire game

shut jewel
#

Then edit it, tiger

#

it's a wiki for a reason

broken ginkgo
steel tiger
#

woolie
🤮

dull ingot
#

@steel tiger hey, he did a pretty good job there
at reading an article that is

crude gorge
delicate moat
#

engineer should shoot miniature engineers from his cannons instead of balls

spare valve
#

would the miniature engineers shoot even smaller ones?

#

When would it end

dull ingot
#

maybe these grenades are little engineers that just curled up?

delicate moat
#

infinite loop of engineer

#

and engineers sentry guns are replaced by more engineers that shoot engineers

harsh garden
#

you're just giving mod makers ideas

delicate moat
#

g o o d

harsh garden
#

instead of putting the whole league of legends roster into the game theyre gonna do that

#

but really, whats up with like 4 LoL characters being mods

dawn hatch
#

How are character mods, by the way? Any highlights?

harsh garden
#

all i've tried are kinda weirdly animated

#

like missing animations to look smooth in certain scenarions

#

but overall tbh most seem well done

steel tiger
#

Bandit Reloaded is amazing

#

it's the most polished and finished

harsh garden
#

bandit reloaded? good, he finally has ammo then

steel tiger
#

also try playable Clay Templar

#

it's really good and comes with extra skills that make it really fun

harsh garden
#

i saw the beetle mod and i really hoped you just got to play as a literal beetle

#

but nah, what a disappointment

steel tiger
#

play as beetle
install speedybeetles mod
I AM SPEED

dull ingot
#

it's the most polished and finished
@steel tiger probably because most of the assets were already in the game's files

steel tiger
#

probs
but the mod dev did a good job of polishing it up and the alt abilities are really well implemented

harsh garden
#

they are adding bandit officially later though, right?

neat palm
#

Maybe

#

No one is confirmed besides Captain right now

#

Plus it’ll probably be sniper or chef that they add next because those came in second and third in the poll

steel tiger
#

i dont think they are going to add him in officially, as he was cut for a reason
i'd really, really like it if they did, but i wont hold my breath

sacred chasm
#

They said that they would if they can add more characters and content after the game, however they are working on a new game that involves 2d so they might focus on that after the release idk

neat palm
#

What game?

harsh garden
#

risk of rain 1 2 @neat palm

neat palm
#

No I was asking Squiddle what game they are working on next

dull ingot
#

it's a secret

neat palm
sacred chasm
#

It wasn't mentioned we just know they were looking for a pixel artist

full gale
#

Oh yeah they were hiring

neat palm
#

Oh yeah forgot about that

pine iris
#

I want grenades on Commando but I'm not good enough with commando to get them commandosweat

full gale
#

Drizzle

pine iris
#

I can't do it on drizzle though-

full gale
#

Command

dense pumice
#

If you already have the alt M2, it shouldn't be too hard

#

And yeah, Drizzle Command makes it free

neat palm
#

Don’t put yourself through that

#

It would be better to do it on normal drizzle than have to do a 20 stage command run

full gale
#

Also what are the requirements to get the n-

dense pumice
#

zug, some people like it šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

full gale
#

Ah

neat palm
#

It’s not that I am mad that he’s using it, if you want to use command I don’t care, I’m just saying that you are gonna get a lot more enjoyment out of a normal 20 stage run than using command, the command run will get real boring real fast and make you feel even worse if you die

#

I’m also starting to think that my nade unlock is more impressive than mastery skins at this point

full gale
#

Long-story short, get good

dense pumice
#

šŸ˜„ You did it on Monsoon no artifacts? Yeah I think most people didn't bother to do that

full gale
#

@pine iris nah but for real the more you use Commando the more you'll understand how to play him and the easier it will be to go for 20 stages

neat palm
#

šŸ˜„ You did it on Monsoon no artifacts? Yeah I think most people didn't bother to do that
Definitely not

pine iris
#

I think this might be the run
I got ATG as my first item and two stickies

dense pumice
#

I did the Loader Swing By on Monsoon no arti šŸ¤” Not sure how impressive that is

neat palm
#

I did a normal drizzle run and it was very fun, best run I’ve done to this day

#

Twenty stage monsoon run sounds like a nightmare

dense pumice
#

There was a guy who posted his run of exactly that somewhere in the last few days

#

The guy did both Grenades and Clover unlock on Monsoon no arti šŸ˜›

#

I didn't remember the name exactly, so I was wondering if maybe that was you

neat palm
#

Nice

#

I got all commandos alts and clover in that one run

full gale
#

Also on Drizzle you can spend a lot more time on a single stage compared to Monsoon so you can farm for more items to get stronger

neat palm
#

Yeah, I’m not ashamed that I did it on drizzle either, like I said, it has been my most fun run up too date

opal cave
#

does anyone know if the dev team is going to add in more survivors after the game's release?

neat palm
#

Most likely

neon seal
#

genesis loop on engineer is broken

pine iris
#

yeah

rare heart
#

Like, busted or amazingly effective?

neon seal
#

wiht enough ukes and proc items if your turret gets damaged once everything dies

neat palm
#

Oh yeah, I forgot the turrets got it

eternal parrot
#

I need advice for arti 😦

neat palm
#

Same

eternal parrot
#

I am gonna give up on using her for swarm runs for now. I struggle so much getting surrounded by wisps all the time as arti

rare heart
#

Afraid there isn't much advice other than finding a legendary you can lean on to attack for you.

neat palm
#

I’m assuming tesla and daggers are the usual good choices

#

Along with clover of course

rare heart
#

Yea. But those are good for everyone, even survivors that can deal with swarms of something on their own.

#

Moreso, even, since it's easier to get a stack started.

neat palm
#

Yep

hard cargo
#

What if the updates release date was extended because the devs realized mul-t is infact a character and has 3 ability’s that haven’t been made yet

dull ingot
#

drizzlet gaming

eternal parrot
#

Same.

#

I very refcently started to get "okay enough" to bash my head against monsoon.

dull ingot
#

fucking drizzies

rare heart
#

Drizzle is a good place to get used to map layouts so you can cover them faster in higher difficulties.

neat palm
#

Agreed, i am in no way opposed to drizzle, command I have my personal opinions on however

rare heart
#

You don't learn anything about the game at large by playing command, other than maybe which item combos work really well.

neat palm
#

Agreed

#

Also it’s just less fun

rare heart
#

As much as I like getting certain items, I hate having to choose EVERY item I pick up. Way too much mental effort on top of an already occupying game.

neat palm
#

Definitely, especially in the later game where it could cost you the run

rare heart
#

Unless you feel like only opening chests after you clear the teleporter. Which has it's own host of issues.

spring cedar
#

i mean like atgs syringes and willo the only thing i think about is t3 or i have a set biuld in mind

rare heart
#

I had one build where I'd do "tougher times-repulsion armor plate-third item I actually wanted" for my rotation. Worked boringly well.

dull ingot
#

randomness is part of the fun

spring cedar
#

i have tryed a fire biuld where every item is related to fire (sucked)
and speed biuld on loader

brazen hill
#

Hey guys I have the game on ps4 and I’m loving monsoon with friends, but I keep seeing pictures around here and other communities with hundreds of items stacked and a bunch of others too, I can’t find anything online that says how this is possible, was wondering if someone could explain or has a link

dull ingot
#

mods

#

on PC

#

basically let you give yourself and everyone in the same server items

#

but that's not /every mod/ just specific cheat ones that're there for testing / fun

brazen hill
#

Ah I see okay I thought maybe it had something to do with that one shrine on the snowy level that focuses items, or whatever it does lol

harsh garden
#

shrine of order

cobalt aspen
#

@brazen hill you referring to Artifact of Command?

#

or shrine of order

safe vapor
#

hundreds of items stacked could be either shrine of order or command

safe vapor
#

lol!

shrewd gulch
#

Yo my names Connor too

#

Let's fuckin go

cobalt aspen
#

perhaps

pine iris
#

goddammit Connor

full gale
#

28 cerimonial daggers, you didn't wanna leave him a chance huh?

rancid cypress
#

Just came back after being busy this past week, and had the best Artificer run I've ever had. Artificer will always be my favorite character ā¤ļø

harsh garden
#

how do i tell @rancid cypress that theyre objectively wrong in every way

dull ingot
#

they're wrong that their favourite character is artificer?

#

dunno man

harsh garden
#

yes

#

you cant like artificer

dull ingot
#

you can only love artificer

#

😳

#

Live, love, artificer

harsh garden
dull ingot
#

can you link the discussion?

dull ingot
#

the cursed announcements

harsh garden
#

@dull ingot no

dull ingot
rose nacelle
#

acrid is gamer mode

#

me when i me the my me when im the im playing acrid

#

poggers

cunning jay
#

are they gonna keep updating after 1.0? @ me

dull ingot
#

@cunning jay probably yes

cunning jay
#

@dull ingot YEAH
LETS GOOOO

dull ingot
#

well i've said probably, but yeah

cunning jay
#

PROBABLY EPIC
LETS GOOOOO
YEAHHHHH

terse nova
#

I think theyve said that they want to support the game post 1.0 yeah? I thought i recalled them saying it once or twice in a dev thoughts.

silver plover
#

yeah, they have, many times

vapid hornet
#

since this update is gonna introduce the final boss and natural conclusion does this mean you can only go up to a certain level before you have to end the run?

#

or can you continue still

steel tiger
#

you'll be able to continue infinitely or end the run by taking on the final boss

vapid hornet
#

you'll be able to continue infinitely or end the run by taking on the final boss
@steel tiger thanks

steel tiger
#

y/w

frail ivy
#

Will there be any more survivors after this or no?

dense pumice
#

Possibly

#

No guarantees

spring cedar
#

acually almost definetly they said the other survivors will get a second chance so that does mean that at least one new character after realease

sharp zenith
#

Well they didn’t say that they would all come back, as that’s a lot of work

#

But considering the massive success of this game, free (and possibly paid) DLC is very possible

strange bear
#

If there’s any dlc I’ll buy it in a heartbeat

steel tiger
#

Ghor's exact words were that "nobody is off the table," but that doesn't mean "everyone is coming back"
it just means there are a lot of candidates for future survivor additions and nobody has been ruled out just yet

strange bear
#

I just want my man chef

#

Ma boi

steel tiger
#

me too

serene lynx
#

@strange bear no you don't

strange bear
#

No imma stand by my boi

serene lynx
#

no ur not

dull ingot
#

having so many items by the end of stage 2 feels so good

safe vapor
#

So much gas

#

like me if i eat oatmeal for breakfast

jagged wren
#

Swarms doesn't help with Sacrifice. Just to let you know.

dense pumice
#

Except it does šŸ™‚ just not double items, but it is a net chance increase

jagged wren
#

It's more of a risk then a gain.

dense pumice
#

Going from 1 monster that has a 7% chance to drop an item to 2 monsters that each have 5% to drop an item is a net gain

jagged wren
#

But going from one monster that can kill you two two is a net loss, lol

dense pumice
#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I never said there wasn't more danger to your life

zinc kernel
#

but them having half health

#

that could benefit some surivors with high splash

jagged wren
#

Correct.

pearl hedge
#

Or just conjure yourself some gas and wisps and watch the problem of many enemies solve itself

full gale
#

It's a straight upgrade to use sacrifice with swarms fym

rare heart
#

Swarms/Sacrifice WITH command? Good way to drive yourself insane.

tired moth
#

In my personal opinion Sacrifice/swarm is one of the most frustrating ways to play the game so I tend to avoid playing multiplayer lobbies with it

dull ingot
#

It's more of a risk then a gain.
@jagged wren oh a risk you say? Risk of Rain pogmando

#

Sacrifice / command and swarm is my go to

#

That’s how I’ve been able to practice monsoon

#

My strategy for obliterations is farming the first level for like 25 minutes and then going to void fields to get a red item right after and then if I need to I’ll hop on over to the bulwarks ambry to get a few more things with no time added

full gale
#

Farming items in the artifact realm is a big brain move

dull ingot
#

It’s a good move when you don’t wanna mess with the sky meadows imo but it can be dangerous because I’ve been slapped down by the orb in the middle of the stage lmao

full gale
#

Oof

tired moth
#

@dull ingot We are like polar opposites xD, I just go fast fast fast

dull ingot
#

Shoot fast haul ass

jagged wren
#

@dull ingot Damn straight.

zinc kernel
dull ingot
#

I’ve never actually used one

#

How does this work

fervent ridge
#

you trade an item for a usually worse one of equal quality

#

its like the bazaar trades kinda

tired moth
#

I didnt know red printers could spawn

#

Is that modded?

dull ingot
#
  1. red printers exist, but they're very rare
  2. you can see that the screenshot was taken in bazaar, so they must've used cauldrons and not printers
tired moth
#

Ach I couldnt tell that was taken in the bazaar

zinc kernel
#

by printers I meant the cauldrons

strange bear
#

I can’t comprehend

#

I’m looking at this photo and my head is starting to hurt

tired moth
#

why cut run time and stage no? 😭

zinc kernel
#

im at stage 16 rn

#

55 min

#

a scav just used a radar scanner

full gale
#

55 MINUTES AND STAGE 16?

#

Holy balls

zinc kernel
full gale
#

Wtf

#

Artifacts?

zinc kernel
#

yeah

full gale
#

I'm guessing Glass and Swarms are two of them

supple sierra
#

some of the others were sacrifice and command i remember

full gale
#

For a 20 stage speedrun?

supple sierra
#

yep

full gale
#

Huh

grim pine
#

damn

zinc kernel
sacred chasm
#

lmao abusing chest spawner and skeleton key

zinc kernel
#

yeah cres suggested it in void fields and Imma try it

dull ingot
#

Is there anything that makes you invincible to Glowing Meteorite? šŸ˜

zinc kernel
#

ion surge

dull ingot
#

then Milky Chrysalis should do the same, correct?

#

I'm playing MUL-T

zinc kernel
#

pretty much

dull ingot
#

ty!

zinc kernel
#

is your teammate trolling or are you using both of those equipments

dull ingot
#

no teammates, I'm using both

limpid briar
#

Volcanic Egg can work as well, can basically fly infinitely as long as you use it well.

sacred chasm
#

Use volcanic egg

#

Volcanic egg = get out of jail free card

somber valley
#

Merc is really fun when you get a Hardlight Afterburner and Bandolier

#

Blinding Assault for ages Cirno

tired moth
#

Favourite (NOT BEST) red item... go!

somber valley
#

Shattering Justice, I think

hard cargo
#

Desk plant

silk zealot
#

n'kuhana's opinion

ocean bronze
#

Desk plant

pearl hedge
#

meathook

proven sigil
#

shattering justice or the antlers (i forget the name) since i play a lot of rex

crisp cosmos
#

Dio's Best Friend because I suck at staying alive

spring cedar
#

hard light becuase i got one on commando as one of my first reds and i thought it was sick

safe vapor
#

shattering justice doesn't get the mentions that daggers or clovers get but its really damn good

spring cedar
#

i think clover is overated
i just don't like the achivement really though

queen bough
#

So I haven't played in like a month, has anything changed before the 1.0 update?

spring cedar
#

nope

queen bough
#

Cool

dull ingot
#

if the last time you've played was after the release of the artifacts update, then no

spring cedar
#

1.0 10 days hype

queen bough
#

I have unlocked all the artifacts, yeah

#

I thought I saw something about a new item

spring cedar
#

it takes a while to make it to stage 5 16 times

queen bough
#

I just went on a loader run

#

with sacrifice

#

Cause you can clear each stage in like 2 minutes, faster with the focused convergance

cobalt aspen
#

yeah to get artifacts I stacked 3 convergences and rushed teleporters

sudden urchin
#

I beat RoR1 on my 4th attempt

#

let’s do it again

sharp zenith
#

Clover is my favorite item because making a bajillion rockets fly out every second will never not be fun

jade sentinel
#

me trying to get commando 20 stage without lunar items achievement (solo)
"hmm, maybe i'll turn on allies to kill eachother, so that enemies will fight eachother"
"hmm, maybe i'll kill aurelionite to help me in teleporter events"
fuck, now i have aurelionite trying to kill me in every teleport event

tulip obsidian
#

just started using loader. couple of questions:

  • sprinting while grappling seems to...work? any other movement tips that aren’t obvious?
  • using punch while flying seems to lose my grapple momentum. why is that? I can’t get the big damage numbers I keep hearing about
jade sentinel
#

Isn't it using shift while grappling?

patent pumice
#

you're supposed to combine grapple + shift to momentum

tulip obsidian
#

for me shift is sprint šŸ¤”

#

what I mean is that I'm flying toward a boss after releasing my grapple, and hit punch right before I hit the boss, is that not the right way?

fossil charm
#

try releasing the punch before you release the grapple

#

I think that should work

patent pumice
#

grapple starts momentum
punch continues it
or
punch starts momentum
grapple moves its direction

prime rivet
#

favorite red?
N'Kuhana's Hot Take

dull ingot
#

Ceremonial Dagger, no doubt

#

headstompers

tulip obsidian
#

@fossil charm @patent pumice ahh crazy, I wasn’t aware you could grapple after punching and still get the damage effect. I’ll play around with that

sacred chasm
#

Glub's a man of culture

full gale
#

So many of the red are really good

eternal parrot
#

Is OSP only a chance to save you?

tribal aspen
#

It only saves you from a single instance of damage, if you get hit twice very quickly, by a wisp say, you can die instantly if it does enough damage

pearl hedge
#

they're right there

#

move closer to the screen

mossy garden
#

i think he means in terms of unlocking them

pearl hedge
#

too close!

mossy garden
#

lmao

pearl hedge
#

But fr, most stages have a tablet, a few have other means, and a few tablets aren't in the stages at all

green topaz
#

C L O S E R

pearl hedge
#

that's about all I can say without actively spoiling it

green topaz
#

I want to see every individual pixel

#

I'm disappointed

pearl hedge
#

Want a hint?

#

The artifact tablet has committed brexit

#

I hope you're either loader or have a vase

green topaz
#

What...

pearl hedge
#

Nah mate that's just a picture of the sky

rare heart
#

Oh, the other half?
Hmm.... would it be too much of a hint if I said ||it is nowhere||

green topaz
#

What're you even looking at? I'm trying to remember all the blue things in the game

#

Ooooh

rare heart
#

Oh, and that one. That was a bitch to get to.

pearl hedge
#

All's you need is loader and a single backup mag

full gale
#

Chrysalis ?

green topaz
#

As a loader main, I can tell you that is 100 percent true

pearl hedge
#

Maybe the backup mag isn't even needed idk

rare heart
#

I think I infinihopoo'd that one.

full gale
#

Relic?

green topaz
#

They are in places that are obvious, and unexpected

full gale
#

obvious

rare heart
#

Every level has one.

full gale
#

¹

rare heart
#

(The sky meadows one isn't hidden, don't go wasting time looking for a second one on that level)

pearl hedge
#

wait

#

You send a screenshot of you standing on the island

#

How did you miss it?

#

Wait is there a relic thingy in rallypoint
that makes it sound like you haven't found it

green topaz
#

How do I say this without giving a direct explanation of where it is....

full gale
#

On the island

pearl hedge
full gale
#

Wtf

rare heart
#

SPOILERS REEEEE

pearl hedge
#

Well it is literally spolired

#

Not my fault if you turned them on by default

full gale
#

Did you boot up the game in 3 minutes, get to stage 2 and took a screenshot as well as put a red arrow
All in 3 minutes

green topaz
#

@full gale we're avoiding spoilers but it's too late...

pearl hedge
#

yesh

full gale
#

He realized it was on the island anyway

pearl hedge
#

I'm a certified American Dad speedrunner

full gale
#

Oh nice!

#

Any%? Windowless?

rare heart
#

Console. Same reason he has 69,420,000 coins

green topaz
#

Good morning us- wait, loading screen

pearl hedge
#

Any% kitchen skip

full gale
#

Sick man

pearl hedge
#

Also taking a screenshot and putting a red arrow in it is literally 5-10 seconds

#

I wanna thank my sponsor, ShareX, a completely free screenshot tool that is even available on steam

full gale
#

Fast computer

dawn hatch
#

My hope for the last map is that there will be more cleansing pools, just to give me more hope of finding an Iridescent Pearl.

pulsar pike
#

orginally using commando then the metamorphosis trail made me use rex lol GODRUN? ik that im on drizzle but i was testing sometings

#

some things*

finite dock
#

How did you get off of the island

#

@dull ingot

#

doesnt teleport you back?

dull ingot
#

no, it doesn't

finite dock
#

ok

dark helm
#

tips on monsoon? i get through stages at a decent pace but i still suffer at stage 3 or 4. I get to stage 3 around 8-10 mins in.

spring cedar
#

go fast and loot as much stuff as fast as possible the rest is just practice

hollow pawn
#

Is it possible to cheese AWU as other survivors?

#

Not mercenary

#

And probably Rex

final shadow
#

Cheesing flying bosses doesn't work on console

hollow pawn
#

Ok, but I’m on PC

high frost
#

I think you can do it as loader

#

but im not sure

dense pumice
#

Loader can do it with the R. Can be kinda tricky, I only managed to do it intentionally once, but I haven't tried that much

spring cedar
#

i know it works with merc and rex but other than that i don't think so (for merc you have to be host)

safe vapor
#

You can only slam bosses with merc if you're the host? O_o

spring cedar
#

yep figured that out playing with randoms

safe vapor
#

How odd

bright palm
limpid ore
#

thats a pretty good idea actually

vale jasper
#

are artificer mains even real or are they just one elaborate prank?

zinc kernel
#

what do you mean

final shadow
#

Artificer mains aren't real, they can't hurt you

dull ingot
#

^ fake arti main

spring cedar
#

i'm an artificer main and if you turn on chaos i will hurt you but not as much as huntress

dull ingot
#

arti's projectiles can be dodged easily

#

unless you're engi

dense pumice
#

Not when she stands right next to you and flamethrowers your face

bright palm
#

Chaos: Suddenly Quickplay is PVP

spring cedar
#

i have chose mul-t when command is on i kill everyone with buzzsaw and then i go take the flue cell and jump of a cliff

eternal parrot
#

Chaos+death

spring cedar
#

my god pvp is amazing in this game merc vs loader and suprisingly merc wins but loader wins v.s almost anything else

#

commando for smash

echo bane
#

Artificer main here.

#

we exist.

#

might give Captain a go though

tired juniper
#

can huntress target other players with m1 and does m2 actively seek them out when chaos is on?

dense pumice
#

M1 will lock on players, but m2 won't bounce to them iirc. You can hit them with the first hit of m2 tho

tired juniper
#

and does stuff like atg and ukelele also actively target other players?

dense pumice
#

Nope, Ukes and ATGs won't target players

#

ATGs can hit you if you run into their path to the enemy tho iirc

tired juniper
#

well that bit makes sense

#

unstable teslacoil

pale roost
#

That would be another artifact, ultra chaos, with engi's turrets targeting other players

dense pumice
#

Tesla won't hit allies

tired juniper
#

awww

#

i mean

#

whew

dense pumice
#

Just imagine that:

#

You Enter void fields with Chaos, get to the final Cell Vent and see Tesla Coil

#

EVERYTHING DIES

tired juniper
#

one person at a time line up please (with social distancing of 10 meters)
(i can't remember teslacoil's range)

#

so most of chaos's danger comes from aoe and stuff you aim, rather than anything targeted then?

dense pumice
#

Aoe is very dangerous yeah

tired juniper
#

imagine one person stacking willowisps

dense pumice
#

Even Gasoline is dangerous before you get a few armor plates

tired juniper
#

does artificer freeze allow other players to be executed? >:O

dense pumice
#

The Ice Wall actually can't hit allies

tired juniper
#

what about spear tho

dense pumice
#

I tested this with a friend a few days ago

#

I haven't tested spear šŸ¤”

#

But actually, no. Frozen players don't get the execute debuff. It's actually the exact same effect as glacial elite explosions, and those don't make you executable

pearl hedge
#

they make you executable by a dying void reaver falcodab

tired juniper
#

wait then do glacial explosions on other enemies (with chaos) or with happiest mask allow them to be executed?

dense pumice
#

(Which means yes, a glacial explosion from your side or with chaos will let you execute the frozen enemies)

pearl hedge
#

mod idea: void reavers but instead of the implosion sound it's the ssssss from the minecraft creeper

tired juniper
#

void reavers but it doesn't show the implosion radius. you only see a dying reaver and hear the sound

#

it only shows the radius after it implodes

#

i'm not sure if i've ever been detained

#

i don't think i have

pearl hedge
#

I've been a few times

#

First one happened on stage 20 of getting incorruptible

dense pumice
#

Oooo 😟 That sucks

pearl hedge
#

Shit happens

vale jasper
#

Artificer main here.
OK controlled operative

bright palm
#

Artificer mains know something we don't

prisma rivet
#

As an Artificer main myself I can confirm that nothing is being hidden from the rest of you

#

They will never know...........Mask

pine iris
#

they will never know Mask

pine iris
#

@limpid briar, I just unlocked MULT saw, and I've seen the light
I might become a MULT main

limpid briar
#

The MUL-Train welcomes you.

zinc kernel
#

sip my tea

#

si pm yt ea

#

simpy tea

hard cargo
#

I’m just hyped for the MUL-T ability’s

spring cedar
#

mul-t mains slow and steady
arti mains just doning damage with one of the best skills in the game by far

#

as an arti main i can confirm that we understand the true way of the mage and therefor we know how to use the character

final shadow
#

Arti doesn't have one of the best skills in the game

#

That title would go to Loader's utilities and Merc's Eviscerate

#

unfortunately

spring cedar
#

flamethrougher does really good damage and more than loaders m3

crisp cosmos
#

yeah Loader LShift is way stronger in terms of damage

final shadow
#

No, it doesn't

#

Loader utility scales with speed, which makes it deal far more damage if you're moving quickly

crisp cosmos
#

up to 2900% when fully charged I believe

final shadow
#

That's without speed scaling, and I thought it was 2700%

crisp cosmos
#

idk

spring cedar
#

ok so one big thing to note this is in the perfect senario
loaders alt m3 on base does (at lv 1) 372
arti m4 (at lv 1) does 660

dull ingot
#

y'all forgetting mult's saw

spring cedar
#

arti m3 can do up to 5500%

#

mul-t saw has no cooldown and therefore is the most consistant high dps output

crisp cosmos
#

well yes but no range

#

also have to tank alot of damage to use it for long

spring cedar
#

over 1 min it will out class all other abietys

#

but yeah it is melee

#

also blazing will mealt mul-t saw biuld

final shadow
#

Arti utility almost never does full damage, because not all the ice pillars break

#

And although Flamethrower can deal up to 4400% damage, only 2200% of that damage can proc, and even then, you have to land all of the hits to reach that much damage

crisp cosmos
#

Loader Utility: "Charge up a massive punch for 600%-2700% damage that sends you flying forward. Deals significantly more damage the faster you are moving."

#

so it is up to 2700%

final shadow
#

No, that's for the charge time, not speed scaling

crisp cosmos
#

gotcha

spring cedar
#

ok if we compare arti m3 to loader m3 sure you win loader is way better but if we compare loader m3 to arti m4
arti m4 is wierd it can do as low as 2200 up to 5500 but that being said arti m4 hits 22 times with no attact speed with 1.0 proc chance

final shadow
#

Arti special can only deal up to 4400% damage total

#

And not as low as 2200%, as low as 100%

spring cedar
#

flame has 50% proc chance and can be affected by luck

final shadow
#

Flame deals 200% damage in one stack

crisp cosmos
#

well if we're adding items then throw everything out the window

final shadow
#

One half of 22 hits will inflict it, statistically speaking

spring cedar
#

and the base flame througher does 2200 the fire can proc 50% chance so on average it does 4400

final shadow
#

So 11 times 200%

#

yes

spring cedar
#

no

final shadow
#

You'll inflict around 11 stacks burn total if you land all the hits

spring cedar
#

fire debuff does 150% per stack

final shadow
#

200% per stack

spring cedar
#

11*150%=1650%

final shadow
#

11*220%=2200%, plus the 2200% damage flamethrower deals is 4400%

limpid briar
#

@spring cedar, Artificer's M4, her Flamethrower, doesn't scale with attack speed, so it'll always remain the same amount of maximum hits.

robust pine
#

It should go longer in my opinion

#

That way it still gets a damage boost but its risky to make use of it

chrome hawk
#

Anyone have any tips for soloing monsoon with Huntress? Trying to get her mastery skin, but, well, I've been getting my ass kicked around stage 5 and 6 if I make it that far.

broken ginkgo
#

Shoot monsters until they dieBrainstalks

chrome hawk
#

Ah, so that's what I've been missing. You've solved all my problems.

broken ginkgo
#

If for real, everything just falls into time management and how can you synergy yourself with items you got

#

Huntress mainly wanna have some damage items, cus ger damage output below avarage.

#

flurry with glasses can boost your damage output a lot. Even tho LensMakers_Glasses gives massive dmg boost for everyone frogmando

chrome hawk
#

I've been trying to keep myself below 5 minutes a stage, though that sorta falls off after stage 4 or 5 when I don't quite have the damage output to kill things as quickly as before, which may be an item problem too. I'll try and keep all that in mind, thank you.

broken ginkgo
#

Everything falls into situation, when chests locations are in a complete different spots, it’s better to fight a boss and hope for a better luck on a next stage

#

If most chests are nicely located in 1 zone, it would be a nice idea to quickly fight tele boss and open them soon after, you may even farm cus you skipped stage 1 and spending few minutes wouldn’t hurt you

chrome hawk
#

Time management is definitely what I'm worst at in this game, I think. I get caught up farming too often.

broken ginkgo
#

You just need to know if it’s worth farming, if you found only a few chests and 1:30 min have passed, it’s better to just fight tele boss, most likely next stage would be more successful

chrome hawk
#

Alrighty. Thank you for the help, I'm going to give it a few more shots, see if I can manage to make it through alright.

bright palm
#

...why were people comparing Loader's 3rd ability to Artificer's 3rd and 4th ones?

#

as someone who plays loader and enjoys it, Charged Gauntlet is crazy

#

without items, you can oneshot the stage one boss

#

you just have to use your grappling hook to gain speed the right way and you can do it

#

and its not the hardest thing in the world to do but you do need the right set up and right stuff to grapple off of

#

and with items, this breaks more

#

seriously, proccing a Kjaro's band on a boss you DON'T oneshot with the right speed set up will finish the job

#

while its been a minute since I've done a charged gauntlet run (Since I prefer charged gauntlet) its super strong, if not boring

sick trout
#

@chrome hawk I like to spend like 3-4 minutes on the first 3 stages, and then always get the legendary ( and get every chest ) on stage 4, I find that stage 4 has the best money per kill to money per chest ratio

calm osprey
golden iris
#

Bruh

#

How do you people manage to get such long runs

snow cargo
#

meditation and acceptance of the void

prime rivet
#

Loader is...imo, not really much a melee character (though she can function as one early game), but a long range projectile burst damage character. Difference is Loader is the projectile.

jade sentinel
#

Anyone know if the above 127 shaped glass bug is fixed? I want to do that but i don't want to instantly die lmao

polar anvil
#

Albino_Acrid glass stacker

#

also there's no bug lol

jade sentinel
#

ah, floating point error, i read the wiki - my bad

polar anvil
#

that's not fixable still no bug

jade sentinel
#

yes ik

tired juniper
#

could just make it so that minimum health is 2

harsh garden
#

they could probably change it but then it'd just set a new limit

#

plus 127 shaped glass is probably enough anyway

tired juniper
#

well why would anyone want 127 shaped glass in the first place

eternal parrot
#

Same reason that I got 1200 personal shield capacitors!

harsh garden
#

if you have 127 shaped glass, with 10 base damage you'd be doing 170,141,183,460,469,231,731,687,303,715,884,105,7280 damage

#

or something

#

im pretty sure its that atleast

#

10*2^127

shut jewel
#

Sure they can fix that 128 glass kills you, but it kills you by being the biggest number possible in the game

#

so they only way to fix it is by nerfing glass

harsh garden
#

isnt that 128 member a float limit though?

#

they could use double

#

atleast im pretty sure thats whats happening

shut jewel
#

2^128 is positive infinity in floats

#

dividing any number by that is 0

#

which is what happens to your health

#

using doubles is not as simple as that, a lot of netcode needs to change as well

#

but even then, you'd just move the problem to 256 glass

eternal parrot
#

See, I will never have this problem because I die instantly every time i buy glass

vale jasper
#

based ^

harsh garden
#

what?

spring dawn
#

best item combo ever. gesture of the drowned with meteorite.

harsh garden
#

yes, if you wanna lose your friends

dull ingot
#

Then I got nothing to lose

harsh garden
#

šŸ˜Ž šŸ‘‰ šŸ‘‰

spring dawn
#

stack up on teddybears, get the combo and laugh like the villain you are

rare heart
#

The director is gonna eventually stop spawning things.

harsh garden
#

didnt they fix that now

#

so it always spawns things

#

p sure it just ends up spamming scavengers

spring dawn
#

-_-

#

which is worse, scavengers or void reavers

harsh garden
#

imo scavengers

dense pumice
#

Scavs imo

harsh garden
#

cause they can get annoying combos

#

reavers are basically just malachite enemies, dont get close and youre good

spring dawn
#

my first great monsoon run got ended because i didn't know what a void reaver does after dying.

dense pumice
#

Once you know, they become easy to dodge tho

harsh garden
#

they reave void

spring dawn
#

even got my first elite aspect from that run.

#

i actually like scavengers most of the time though, great to get some items

harsh garden
#

imagine if all of them dropped bags

spring dawn
#

...

#

is there a mod for that?

#

that sounds like fun.

#

for a bit

harsh garden
#

wish there were more mods

#

are modders waiting for 1.0 or smth?

spring dawn
#

i'm personally waiting for 1.0 before starting to mod.

harsh garden
#

well makes sense

#

wonder if people are gonna mod in the whole LoL roster

spring dawn
#

would be a huge project. personally i'm more currious if they will mod more enemies as playable characters in. (like the clay machinegun guy)

harsh garden
#

well there are 4 league characters as mods already

spring dawn
#

i read about it before.

dense pumice
#

I doubt anyone will bother modding the less popular champions

harsh garden
#

and yeah playable enemies is def a thing

#

probably

spring dawn
#

personally i want a character with overpowered moves, but they can hurt himself and the team too.

harsh garden
#

merc but every skill is glowing meteorite

spring dawn
#

didn't they also mod the great wisp from ror1 and goku?

harsh garden
#

idk about the wisp, i know goku is a thing

spring dawn
#

found it. not great wisp but roguewisp

harsh garden
#

cant wait to see what modders will come up with later

spring dawn
#

part of me is hoping for new stages. like adding ror1 stages that didn't make it to this game. (aka elders temple and underground stages.)

#

i know cave systems are hard to make becuase of the 3d. but there should be things possible with a large cave and some halls going around it.

harsh garden
#

tbh i hated fungal caves in ror 1

#

cause they just took long to search

spring dawn
#

walk in a circle and done.

#

i hated that underwater one more

harsh garden
#

yeah the water one was prob my second least fav

spring dawn
#

but yes, the stage disign in 2 is better

harsh garden
#

well they have way more experience now than when they made ror 1

spring dawn
#

the worst part about the water one was that if you fell on the right side, you'd have to walk around the entire place.

#

ror1 still a great game, if it wasn't then i wouldn't have bought ror2 on day 1

harsh garden
#

ror1 made me overconfident going into 2 and i got wrecked first time i played it

spring dawn
#

atleast was able to get the preon accumulator by just trying instead of hoping for the right stage

#

remember when there deicide was called impossible?

harsh garden
#

not really, i played without checking achievements or looking at what people said

spring dawn
#

i remember seeing lots of groups forming just to try that.

#

did it in singleplayer later though, even though it just wouldn't spawn

harsh garden
#

i just unlocked everything and then decided to wait till 1.0 to play again

#

i think i did deicide with rex

#

cant remember exactly

spring dawn
#

i'm working on the character achivements at the moment. am working on mercenary mastery at the momen

#

i did deicide with huntress.

harsh garden
#

for chars i dont like, i just used artifacts to complete mastery

#

cause wanted to see how they look

spring dawn
#

i'm just too stuborn to do that

#

command would indeed be easy to get it

harsh garden
#

eh i just decided i cant be bothered

#

and didnt wanna just straight up edit them in

spring dawn
#

i saw some guys with tons of lunar coins because of that.

#

i've just been grinding those. am at 50 at the moment

#

after using them of course

harsh garden
#

eh im always staying around 30-40 or so

#

without saving

spring dawn
#

i agree that that would be better, but i want to have a bit of backup if i don't get any for a group of runs

harsh garden
#

people can hack in thousands if they want, i dont play with randoms so

#

also i just realized its only a week till full release

#

i thought it was like a month for some reason

spring dawn
#

11th

#

am really exited for it

#

btw. did you ever find some of the aspects?

harsh garden
#

i think i found like 1

#

would need to check item list

#

i dont have that much game time tbh

dense pumice
#

Aspects don't show up in logbook

harsh garden
#

oh

#

then no idea how many

#

atleast 1

dense pumice
#

I've seen quite a few. Probably somewhere between 10 and 20

spring dawn
#

i atleast found one malachite and one overloading

harsh garden
#

i only have 100something hours so thats prob why

dense pumice
#

479h here

spring dawn
#

120 recently

dull ingot
#

Is it a good idea to try use my roaming mobile data to run ror2

spring dawn
#

then i hope you have a lot

dull ingot
#

Unlimited

harsh garden
#

ehh probably, depends on how stable it is where you are

#

i use a modem as home internet and its fine

dull ingot
#

K its worked a then suddenly everyone disconnects

harsh garden
#

how are you using it

#

like are you just doing a hotspot from your phone or something

dull ingot
#

Hotspot

harsh garden
#

then i wouldnt expect stability

#

wired internet would be best

dull ingot
#

Well I got to work with what I got

vapid hornet
#

will the game get platform achievements like steam achievements or trophies on the ps4

dense pumice
#

Yes, Steam Achievements will come with the 1.0 update

#

Trophies most likely too

hard cargo
#

Effigy has always been my favorite item and im glad its going to get buffed

#

Maybe the will make the speed reduction less effective on the player, that alone seams like a good buff

dense pumice
#

The best fix I heard was to make it throwable

hard cargo
#

That would also be really good

dense pumice
#

But still have to walk up to it to pick it up ofc

hard cargo
#

Yeah

#

Also ive noticed that enemys seam to walk away from the effigy

#

Yet for other things they wont change their route

#

That or im just unlucky with the pathfinder

storm sand
#

Discussion 1 seems abit busy so I'll ask here.

What was the new update for console today? Was only 84 mb so I figured it was just a quick fix but idk what it changed : ]

graceful thistle
#

It fixed the corrupted save issue

sick trout
#

@graceful thistle what’s that? And does it have anything to do with multi saw unlock

tribal aspen
#

People were having their progress completely reset

lean pawn
#

Does that issue exist on ps4 too?

safe vapor
#

Seemed to be an Xbox issue

#

Can't confirm but that's where I kept seeing it

graceful thistle
#

I know it wasn't for switch, but I mostly heard it from Xbox users. Should be good now to my understanding

hearty umbra
#

WHOS THE NEW GUNSLINGER????

#

Anyone know?

dull ingot
#

you mean the new character?

hearty umbra
#

Ye

dull ingot
#

he's the Captain

hearty umbra
#

Oh yeahhhhhh

#

Now I know thnx

strange bear
#

It’s next week bois MonsoonSaiyan

golden iris
#

The price is going up what

languid yarrow
#

yep

#

it's leaving early access

bright palm
#

Its not a massive increase and if you paid for it already, you dont have to worry about it

golden iris
upbeat adder
#

finally, got all the challenges before 1.0 im so happy

#

🄵

north sphinx
sharp zenith
#

New Dev thoughts is awesome

#

I am insanely excited for this update

strong tiger
#

how you guys feel about no new normal items being added?

dense pumice
#

I'm okay with it. Mainly because they said that they're adding more boss items

sharp zenith
#

I’m perfectly fine with it

north sphinx
fading skiff
#

50 clovers

north sphinx
dense pumice
#

GG

minor minnow
#

Gg

chrome hedge
#

Artifact of Dissonance is fun.

#

...except when I face a Horde of Clay Templars and get turned to swiss cheese in seconds. Let alone an Elite horde of Templars...

errant yew
#

i feel like im the only one who likes fighting myself every ten minutes. even if i die its still fun

#

the artifact is more fun in multiplayer

chrome hedge
#

Stage 2: Overloading Clay Templar šŸ’€

prime rivet
#

Dissonance is fun until a bunch of elder lemurians spawn stage 1

#

That or Parents

hard cargo
#

Dissonance and kin is fun too

#

Adds more variety to the spawns

ionic isle
#

hows everyone doing

snow cargo
#

i just played helltaker so pretty ok cause it was fun

ionic isle
#

wait yoru pretty okay but it was fun?

snow cargo
#

pretty ok is good enough sometimes

ionic isle
#

I've never heard of it said that way

#

But its hella positive, anybody in here have a ton of experience running different artifacts?

snow cargo
#

lmao i guess i use various terms for fine

#

have to be creative about it i guess

#

what are you looking to run

ionic isle
#

I'm trying to use artifacts that make it more challenging but balanced

#

and I'm torn about running the combination of metamorphisis, command, vengeance, and evolution

#

I've played around a bit and the early game feels doable but I'm worried itll be a hard wall once your doppleganger has a few items ahead of you

snow cargo
#

ive not played that much with vengeance but i can imagine it can get cheesy with extra items

#

i used it just in maao which is like its own thing

#

elite and swarm mix it up nicely

#

dont do sacrifice to make it a challenge

#

i found elite swam glass really fun

ionic isle
#

Theres so much cheesy stuff you can do with sacrifice I don't use it

#

Unless I'm achievement hunting

snow cargo
#

it's weird but like, just turning on elites only and running stage 1 is tough lol

#

it's pretty lopsided but a good challenge to get some stages in

ionic isle
#

I wish there was a metamorphisis for artifacts frankly

snow cargo
#

though bosses are tedious ill admit on elites, the fights are just too long

#

that would be pretty cool

#

every stage random artifacts would be pretty sick

ionic isle
#

I'm interested to see the spike in mods as soon as its released into 1.0.0 on steam

snow cargo
#

yeah, we're gonna get a player influx for sure

ionic isle
#

I wonder if it will be as bad as when blood borne hit pc and new players were complaining about difficulty

snow cargo
#

that tends to happen for all new games that are hard

crisp cosmos
#

like the articles saying sekiro needed an easy mode

snow cargo
#

it happened like ridiculously for sekiro

crisp cosmos
#

game journalists are pathetic

snow cargo
#

then after everyone started not sucking, we realized its great

ionic isle
#

I mean the soulsborne community isn't the most supportive lol but yeah the sekiro thing cracked me up

snow cargo
#

ror2 is much the same

crisp cosmos
#

Do people complain about this game being too hard?

snow cargo
#

not really, this was just an on release thing would it happen

ionic isle
#

In game discussion 1 someone came in and said "these game devs need to get there shit together" while ghor was in interestingly enough lol.

crisp cosmos
#

lol

snow cargo
#

i think the difficulty overall is pretty good as far as time to leveling up and optimizing monsoon

#

and now we have eclipse for that too

#

plus artifacts/speedruns/prismatic

#

im pretty ok with the difficultly spread and if anything is too easy there's diluvian

#

mods means the game will never be too easy lol

ionic isle
#

Learning to be better at this game was weird, I didn't look at content creators till I had a fair number of hours into the game, so I kept getting tips from videos like "what the difficulty"

snow cargo
#

i watched a little bit of stuff and then just tried to hop in

#

died a lot then started dying less lol

#

it's the great existential framework of risk of rain really, that even if you're good at risk of rain, you still just die

#

which might go away on release rip

graceful thistle
#

I tried following tips from everyone about going super fast and spending 3 minutes per stage, but found a lot more success playing the pace I'm comfortable with

crisp cosmos
#

/\

snow cargo
#

yeah, i get where they come from, but hard times aren't the best

#

just cause it's mostly about opportunity cost

graceful thistle
#

More enjoyable as well, which trumps more success anyway

snow cargo
#

which comes with playing more

#

what's worth it to farm

#

that and movement are like, how you die in ror2 lmao

ionic isle
#

Well its easier to play a 3 minute stage when you understand the map, mechanics, and abilities. So the fact that they start with "play fast" and not how to play fast really annoyed me.

graceful thistle
#

Yeah it's not "go fast" it's "don't waste time"

snow cargo
#

that too, it's way easier to clock a few mins on "bad" spawns when you know what you are looking for

graceful thistle
#

If you're surrounded by boxes and enemies then yes, stop and farm those boxes

ionic isle
#

I mean my first bit of advice is just try things the game does a good job of rewarding you for things like failing shrines or dying to burn damage

graceful thistle
#

blast shower is a punishment not a reward

crisp cosmos
#

yep

graceful thistle
#

But yes really just have fun with it

snow cargo
#

doing a tele on a poor rng stage early only to get beetle guard

graceful thistle
#

One thing that really helped me grok the game was trying for good times in the prismatic trial

snow cargo
#

is like ok thanks game

graceful thistle
#

Getting a sub-2 with MUL-T translates really well to playing the main game effectively

snow cargo
#

yeah movement is very important

#

that's why i shared i thought most of ror2 is mostly time management and movement

#

when you die something in there went wrong

dull ingot
#

okay, just one more RoR2 match

harsh garden
#

how to play ror2:

  1. dont listen to others
polar anvil
#

Better to not listen to you then

pearl hedge
#

please do not the acrid

green topaz
#

No one listens to acrid

polar anvil
#

If you don't listen to acrid you may get spit at

green topaz
#

But I have a utility skill that specializes in dodging lem spits

#

I love autocorrect

pearl hedge
#

finally, nutrition

green topaz
prime rivet
ruby torrent
#

are all the soundtrack codes supposed to be out by now?

north sphinx
#

as in, even the unreleased ones too?

#

if so, then no

ruby torrent
#

ah ok

lusty galleon
#

question, has the game been updated yet for the cursed doll

dull ingot
#

and the update will come out on august 11th

brittle abyss
#

What is real...

dull ingot
pearl hedge
tribal aspen
short beacon
patent lava
north wind
#

i think we're in need for a 3d lemdog

untold notch
spring cedar
#

lemdog lemdog lemdog
3x the fun

chrome hedge
oblique temple
#

I have managed to clip into the wall of aqueduct, does anyone know how to get out (without a movement ability)?

sacred chasm
#

Usually the same way you clipped in, how'd you do it?

oblique temple
#

I ran into the wall and jumped, not thinking about how I would get out

#

im engie btw

#

Is there a "stuck" command or something?

sacred chasm
#

as far as I know no
Screenshot?

oblique temple
#

hold on

#

bit chaotic... but I cant fix that

sacred chasm
#

rough to be stuck past the gate

oblique temple
#

ye

sacred chasm
#

Alright you can try sprint jumping on the sides of the gate

#

There's a small like

oblique temple
#

ive done that at every angle I could think of

sacred chasm
#

gap?

#

well keep doing it ig xf

oblique temple
#

epic

sacred chasm
#

If you had volcanic egg you could glitch out

oblique temple
#

but I dont

sacred chasm
#

now the real question

#

how are you not bored 4 hours is a drizzle run

oblique temple
#

...

sacred chasm
#

Like I'm not blaming you for playing drizzle

oblique temple
#

uh

#

drizzle is fun for building kits

sacred chasm
#

building kits?

steady gazelle
oblique temple
#

getting item combos

sacred chasm
#

Oh trying out synergies

oblique temple
#

is there a command to obliterate?

#

yes

sacred chasm
#

fair

#

Not really

oblique temple
#

epic

sacred chasm
#

welp all you can do is restart or pray that two mobs will simultaneously press the buttons to open the gate lmao

oblique temple
#

ok

steady gazelle
#

lul

oblique temple
#

ill just end run

#

ty anyway

leaden lily
#

i hate people that use the tele zone like a 3pt line

#

stand right on the line outside of it

hardy edge
#

@hardy edge

lofty tiger
#

@ą¹–Ģ¶Ģ¶Ģ¶Ī¶ĶœĶ”MegaDino123

chrome hedge
#

Well, I more or less figured out Trial of Glass. Spend all time hiding in the back of the bulwark where a large wall blocks the reliquary's shots yet still gives you room to maneuver, and bring a Topaz Brooch or two.

runic vigil
#

i never use volcanic egg

#

literally never

hard cargo
#

Sometimes I forget sawmerang exists

oblique flame
#

If I get the opportunity I'll use Sawmerang for the first few stages just to nuke the boss, after that its not so easy to use

prisma forge
#

What I always wondered about Sawmerang and can't seem to find anywhere. Is it able to proc items?

dense pumice
#

Yup

prisma forge
#

Have used it on occasions to clear large swarms, I never really paid attention to it proccing items though

Anyway, Thanks. That is good to know

chrome hedge
#

multiple Fuel Cells is funny with Sawmerang to delete bosses

prisma forge
#

Am familiar with it, used it on the Twisted Scav once at the end of a run. Glorious.

wary rain
#

multiple fuels cells + royal cap + gesture of the drowned; wait for them to charge up, and just delete a boss

spring cedar
#

holy crap if i'm right you only need 22 fuel cells and 1 gesture to have constant use on the royal capacitor

#

i need to test that

#

also is my math right
20/2=10
10*.85^22=.28

small sierra
#

Get 31 FC and saw blade, go nuts

spring cedar
#

yeah thats something to look into

earnest hedge
#

Is best.
That is all.

delicate moat
#

he is cute

crude vine
#

Acrid so the best

orchid violet
#

The real questions are: poison vs blight, and ranged vs melee

polar anvil
#

@orchid violet any and any

orchid violet
#

I'm not a top-tier player, so I haven't gotten to fully test things for myself yet, but do you find melee to be a viable strategy past the first loop? Like, you can see his kit is set up for it with the bite and everything, but he doesn't have any i-frames on anything like Mercenary, which makes me feel like he was always intended to be a ranged character. It feels conflicting, because I want it to be good, I'm just not sure if it is.

polar anvil
#

i don't find it viable but also i've not played meleecrid enough

#

i'll be full on meleecrid post 1.0

green topaz
#

For the early game acrids melee primary is viable. However past the first loop or so it is good to be ranged like taking visions

#

It's never really one or the other with acrid, unless you're picking skills

#

And poison or blight is all on you

#

I like both, but I'm used to poison

orchid violet
#

For the early game acrids melee primary is viable. However past the first loop or so it is good to be ranged like taking visions
@green topaz Yeah, this is what I figured. I guess if you're going for some simple obliteration runs, it might work for you till the end, but I just couldn't see a melee-focused playstyle making it much further than that. I feel like he would need something a little extra, like i-frames. That won't stop me from trying though

green topaz
#

Just stick to that tactic

#

And you'll know when to take visions

#

Val, bite is fun. I will agree with that. But I want it to actually be good in a real run

#

Hopoo < Acrid

sacred chasm
#

I always play melee acrid and I don't really have problems with it tbh
The way I do it is enemies that are dangeround to melee (blazings malachites etc) I lower their health with poison mostly while I deal with the other mobs and once they're around half health I go in, bite a few times, go out and repeat

#

Having HEAD-5T and something like five goat legs Goat_Hoof allows you to engage enemies with a big stomp and then mow them down with the execution damage of the bite

#

Even if you play melee acrid you're not supposed to stay long in melee range, he still needs to be played in a "hit and run" way and you gotta swap targets often to max out your damage

orchid violet
#

That's an awesome take on the playstyle. Makes total sense, too.

sacred chasm
#

Nice equipments to have are volcanic egg (to gtfo when you get frozen, slowed etc) Jade elephant to just survive longer in melee range or p much anything but those are pretty useful and I use them often
The egg is real nice to prepare a stomp as well

rough moth
#

Someone complementing egg?

#

Never thought I would see that

orchid violet
#

Jade Elephant is my go-to equipment for the playstyle so far, good to know I'm not too far off the mark. One thing I haven't tested yet is Helfire Tincture + Razor Wire. My theory is that it is either fantastic or literally unplayable

sacred chasm
#

@rough moth
Volcanic egg ignores every movement impeding effect, including glacial elite explosions, and the void reaver snare. Also lasts longer when you hit stuff with it, and you can do silly stuff like use arti flamethrower during the egg or hold the charged punch with loader and release it when you go out
It's versatile, you can also kill crowds of wisps with it and it's overall amazing in early game when you lack mobility and remains great late game thanks to my first statement

#

It's the ultimate get out of jail free card in risk of rain 2

hard cargo
#

K but what about eccentric vase

#

Is there really any reason to use that over other movement equipment?

orchid violet
#

Isn't eccentric vase slower?

hard cargo
#

Yes

sacred chasm
#

You can throw it at allies in a bad position so they can escape a bad situation, good to go from a to c while skipping be when looting

hard cargo
#

That’s true

sacred chasm
#

vase is good for long distances like grabbing that shrine on the other side of the map or that legendary chest you were saving for during tp event

hard cargo
#

Yeah, since it does gain speed the more distance you travel

#

Still really fun to use

sacred chasm
#

I wouldn't take vase over most equipments unless I'm falling behind and I need to loot while others kill
However I def make use of it when I get it

hard cargo
#

Yeah, you just kinda use it till you get something better or when you are late into a run

#

I’ll never not use effigy though, even if I see a royal capacitor, I’ll keep the effigy

#

Because funny crowd control during boss go brrr

#

Honestly just lowering the amount of speed players lose from effigy would be enough of a buff

#

Also fun fact: effigy can be used to weigh down the pressure plates on abandoned aqueduct

orchid violet
#

Means solo players could just command artifact their way to completing that challenge instead of having to play Engineer or waltz with a tar pot for twenty minutes

#

Or effigy randomly, I suppose

#

get it randomly*

hard cargo
#

Gives effigy one use other then killing yourself

#

I do like the concept of the item though

#

Crowd control that also effects you

orchid violet
#

I feel like that's a hard balance to strike in a game like RoR2

#

There's nothing else quite like it, I dare say

#

The item, that is

hard cargo
#

Yeah

sacred chasm
#

Use effigy better it's legitimately strong when used right@hard cargo

rough moth
#

Wat

#

I agree with you on egg

#

But that?

hard cargo
#

Egg funny

#

I’m pretty sure enemy’s will try to maneuver around the effigy

#

I’ll place it on a beetle guard and it’s first priority is to escape the effigy

#

It is good to place on bosses though

orchid violet
#

I suppose Effigy is far easier to use on survivors with decent mobility skills, which is one qualification for surviving the effect yourself. Artificer can jump out of it, Huntress can blink, etc.

hard cargo
#

Yeah

#

But on characters like multi, where you’re ends from being at about the range from the edge of effigy to its center

#

It’s kinda eh

#

Enemy’s in there are basically just safe when playing as multi

orchid violet
#

And characters whose MS affect their mobility skills are gimped as well. Have fun slow-mo jumping out of the AoE as Acrid, because you're certainly not doing it quickly

hard cargo
#

Yeah

#

Acrid especially

#

Since at least mul-t can use a ranged source of dps

#

Acrid just kinda spits on them

#

It’s not necessarily the highest form of damage

#

And melee survivors are just kinda can’t use it

#

The brain

#

That’s smart

#

But it’s definitely the best on huntress and artificer

orchid violet
#

I literally never buy lunar equipment, but maybe I'll start trying it on Artificer. I just unlocked her jump skill today, and I've been having heaps of fun with it

hard cargo
#

Yeah it’s really fun

orchid violet
#

I just unlocked that today as well

hard cargo
#

One time in online I bought the meteor and every just kinda stared at me

#

So naturally I just picked up my old equipment again

#

Wasted 2 lunar coins for a joke

dense pumice
#

worth

orchid violet
#

I play in a judgement-free zone. That is to say, solo. No idea if my internet is good enough to play multiplayer, never tried.

#

So I'll take that meteor all day baby

sacred chasm
#

And characters whose MS affect their mobility skills are gimped as well. Have fun slow-mo jumping out of the AoE as Acrid, because you're certainly not doing it quickly
@orchid violet
Effigy drops under you, just drop it mid jump when you're above it's area of effect

orchid violet
#

Fair point

sacred chasm
#

And effigy buffs your poison's damage so

hard cargo
#

Yeah that’s true

#

But still melee characters are kinda screwed

#

And the headset

#

My other favorite item

sacred chasm
#

I kinda wonder what they're gonna do about the stomp

hard cargo
#

I think they said that it was one of the first items they made, so the height calculations were weird

#

So they were going to fix that

sacred chasm
#

Huh

#

hope it's not gonna be a hidden nerf

hard cargo
#

Yeah that

#

Isn’t desk plant the only legendary that gives direct healing

#

Not like something that has to do with healing like the rejuvenation rack