Haha shotgun goes pew-pew
#gd2-nullified
broken ginkgo
flat bobcat
haha sword go shing
lusty raft
Name one character with an actual shotgun
flat bobcat
bandit
rough moth
Commando
cloud spear
What if his health was one higher than your theoretical max dps
rough moth
Then you shoot for a while?
cloud spear
So can never kill him
lusty raft
Max dps is damage per second, that means you could kill him in just over a second
flat bobcat
you kill him in more than one second
rough moth
^
lusty raft
And it takes about 1.5s for newt to even snap
polar anvil
His animation is like 3 seconda
flat bobcat
more like 2
lusty raft
It takes 1.5s and his hp has to reach 99% first
cloud spear
Oh
lusty raft
So first few hits are free really
flat bobcat
if your first few hits don't bring him below the threshold
lusty raft
Or yknow, if you plan it
polar anvil
Also how would you count max theoretical dps
lusty raft
Also acrid is a dog.
polar anvil
Are you referring to my nickname
flat bobcat
if acrid is a dog, he's the only bad dog
lusty raft
Yes, i am
polar anvil
Blame hophop
polar anvil
He hop
cloud spear
š
flat bobcat
terse herald
i don't know anyone who wouldn't want some 
+ 4x 
polar anvil
Me
cloud spear
Well thatās another good thing
But the most juicy thing to get for Christmas is
+
+
terse herald
Don't forget 
, 
, and 
dull ingot
all i want is 
terse herald
lesser wisp hate thread
fuck lesser wisps, especially those malachite fuckers
everybody would benefit from their removal
flat bobcat
wisps are like wasps
sick trout
Okay what are scavengers? Iāve heard they drop lots of items but where do I find one?
dull ingot
@sick trout they show up after a couple loops through the game, I usually start seeing them around stage 13 IIRC
sick trout
Thanks!
livid goblet
Help
I have an addiction to saying sentry going up every time I buy or place down a turret
lusty raft
Good, let TF2 flow in your veins
dull ingot
i would've done a blood transfusion instead
hm, you can make a mod that replaces the sound of turret appearing with engi's lines
livid goblet
HMMM
lusty raft
looks at Harb
dull ingot
stares at Harb
livid goblet
sEnTrY dOwN
terse herald
I have an addiction to saying sentry going up every time I buy or place down a turret
@livid goblet YOU AND ME HOSS
kind wave
I've grown to hate the spirit wisps. That darn artifact. Hate them!
deft leaf
if you use spite and chaos with it then they die right after spawning
kind wave
@deft leaf the problem is.. Not always.
I dedicated myself to all-artifact runs
And sometimes they get pushed away from the spite bombs
Or the game gives you all-wisps/all-vulture/all-jellyfish stage
And spite bombs just can't reach them
At least Glacial explosion usually kills them
fervent nimbus
pine iris
what greens are good on huntress?
polar anvil
infusion
pine iris
ok, just got a second red
what should it be
polar anvil
deskplant
pine iris
no
an actually useful red
polar anvil
rude
polar anvil
why ask a question if you're going to dismiss an answer
pine iris
fair point
I'll just take my old friend dio's
flat bobcat
daggers
pine iris
I already have daggers
flat bobcat
MORE DAGGERS
how many times must i tell you
daggers are the best red item in any situation
flat bobcat
daggers
pine iris
I don't have clover
and shattering is useless on a glass run
I'll pick daggers as my third red to sate PizzaRol's wrath
flat bobcat
acceptable
flat bobcat
more
pine iris
I cannot unless I loop
I'm going to obliterate
flat bobcat
you have 4 more stages before that happens
pine iris
I dieded
sudden urchin
dull ingot
š¤
alpine jolt
do you guys think using drizzle and artifacts to unlock challenges are a cheat-ish way to do it?
like, the 12 crowbars one
wispy shore
If it was cheating, then the game wouldnāt let you use artifacts to unlock things.
Take advantage of it. Itās not cheating.
deft leaf
well it does remove the challenge and fun for some, but for others it's quite the opposite and it only adds to the game
alpine jolt
i'm more of a casual player myself and just want 100% completed and have fun while having everything unlocked
deft leaf
also you can do meme builds now
deft leaf
then don't use artifacts, i didn't
alpine jolt
im going to use just in the super hard ones, don't wanna crack my head just for some unlock
but yeah, thanks you two
deft leaf
yw
alpine jolt
terse herald
The grind for irradiant pearl begins...
with Artifact of Enigma and Effegy of Grief, you can duplicate equipment (including lunar ones, which can be deposited into the pool)
pearl hedge
prolly want to invest in some fuel cells for that
terse herald
I would if I could
I got SO lucky with this - after a run where I had 25 pearls with no irradiant
finally: it's over
fleet imp
yet again another god run getting shat on by malachite
i cant even blame the game cause i wasnt watching where i was walking
blazing bear
i just had a god run ruined by accidentaly running into a void reaver death
fleet imp
rip
dull ingot
Malachite Lemurians screw me over as loader
pine iris
malachite
elder
lemurians
with celestial wisps floating around them
that's my sleep paralysis demon
dull ingot
Oh god
pine iris
well, demons
honest smelt
Celestial wisps are always hiding malachite enemies as if they spawn together.
pine iris
yeah
rotund bronze
hard ore
1/1 spawnrate doesn't mean they spawn in pairs
dark tree
when are they going to make risk of rain 2 2
polar anvil
never
green topaz
One thing I've noticed about malachite and celestine dunestriders is that their legs get different visuals
flat bobcat
risk of rain 0, you play through all the characters' backstories
terse herald
risk of rain -1, you play as the survivors' parents
deft leaf
nah in -1 you play as hopoo creating the game
flat bobcat
Risk of rain -1 is Deadbolt
terse herald
Risk of rain ā2 is bugtesting for eternity
flat bobcat
oh god
terse herald
Risk of Rain Ļ
flat bobcat
bold of you to assume there's a risk of rain 3
swift rain
@flat bobcat The character backstories of RoR 1 or 2 ?
flat bobcat
I feel like the ror1 survivors would have better lore
swift rain
Because in either case only Acrids would have any kind of continuity
flat bobcat
how they came to work for UESC, you know
terse herald
how artificer got cucked by the newt
swift rain
Eh I feel as though itās self explanatory enough as their titles are their professions
Anything spanning farther back than why theyāre doing their job is purely peripheral and has no real bearing on the story anyway
flat bobcat
well in that case, the backstory of UESC itself
pine iris
that is a legitimate question though
how did artificer get trapped by the newt
terse herald
she's too slow
flat bobcat
she overpaid on her credit card
terse herald
she didn't use GEICO to save 15% or more on car insurance
swift rain
Like Risk of Rain is more atmospheric, world and lore focused, which is preferable over character development, and Its UES:CL and I suspect those questions, as they are more relavent will be adressed, if not in 1.0 then definitely eventually, and I mean we donāt NEED answers for everything, I kinda like the draw of the mystery and leaving things to the imagination, drawing your own conclusions and all that fun stuff
flat bobcat
I sure hope we get the rest of the lore in 1.0
even though From Software never confirmed/denied anything about the DS lore, most of it could be figured out with relative certainty. I like that kind of mystery.
swift rain
I mean but you gotta understand the scope and context of the game itself, I mean by design you play a survivor trying to progress through a hostile environment, piecing together what remains around you, but the āwhyā youāre there isnāt a priority, your survival is, thereās a level of immersion there the lore then is something that isnt needed at all but what we have, has created a thesis in which a conversation like this one can be facilitated
I mean what you refer to as your preference of āmysteryā is the writing equivalent of Dora the Explorer, āCan you see where āxā is?ā only difference being the answer is never stated but spoon fed nonetheless.
flat bobcat
I mean, not really
you have to search and read through a lot of stuff to figure out most of the lore
not to mention pay attention to the opening cutscene that you only see once per save file
swift rain
I was referring to the writing and less how itās manifested in game
Where the kind of thought process that Risk of Rain incites seems far more ambiguous and it goes all the way down to even the aesthetic, it would be far more substantial in this case for the lore to relay more a sense of ambiguity even despite the amount weāre given, like the end of Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, where despite all you know about the circumstances, or in this case the broader context and lore, the player is still able to draw their own conclusions from them and no matter what they are, can be justified, which really is more rewarding.
rocky widget
Iām stuck in Bulwarkās Ambry because no enemies are spawning.
heavy thunder
Did you beat the "boss"?
wispy shore
If you defeated the boss, you have to pick up artifact in middle in order to open portal
broken ginkgo
š¦
fleet imp
that is all
safe vapor
yeah, clay templars should not be
elfin onyx
Templars + swarms + 3rd loop or later is just....lol
wispy shore
Lol. I tried kin, dissonance, and swarm on monsoon. Got them stage 1. That run didnāt last long at all
sick trout
Any tips on getting the huntress six kills with one glaive shot achievement?? Should I just stack crowbars and crit and wait for six low health fools to show up?
patent pumice
no, it makes a mini wisp
patent pumice
you can find it ;)
charred void
Is anyone here interested in reading my artifact idea? I have gotten good feedback on it and it is close to 50 likes now!
swift rain
Maybe ? I dunno just seems too gimmicky to me
And I mean Iām all for gimmicks
But this one just doesnāt make any sense other than for the sake of it
@charred void Like design-wise it seems disjointed, rushed almost in terms of concept development, whether or not thatās the case, thatās the vibe Iām getting, further implications seem to have gone overlooked, like would the teleported be traversible ? Could it be affected by jump pads ? Is it affected by momentum ? Whatās its weighting ? How would itās collision work with other enemies or stage features ? What kind of pathing would it follow ? If it had pathing, would it need to be new ? If so it would require a lot of programming for what would result in a very lacklustre mechanic.
charred void
Youāre assuming I havenāt already thought about some of these ideas. People told me too many details are bad so I took some out. I have put a lot of thkugh into this and talked to many people about it to improve the idea. I have been working to make it to everyoneās liking. Oh well, canāt make everyone happy lmfao
swift rain
I never said you didnāt put thought into it, just my take from what was presented and the kind of feel I gathered from it
dull ingot
in my opinion, your concept is one of those things that feels like a really good idea, but the kind that gameplay wise feels annoying and gimmicky. Nothing that interesting changes putting your artifact idea on other than now you've gotta run after the teleporter or sit still like you already do, it just adds this weird minigame of the chasing the objective i dont think sounds very fun to actually play.
charred void
Itās meant more so you can sit on the teleporter. And did you even read my post? Once you exit the teleporter zone it would stop moving
dull ingot
i did but the teleporter zone is, for me at least already annoying to deal with, having to track its movements and charge the teleporter at the same time is exactly what i mean when i say, a weird minigame
swift rain
Well especially if itās moving away from the boss lmao
dull ingot
Exactly!
charred void
It would be on a Predetermined track. And just kill the boss fast
dull ingot
Just get good items lul
charred void
Regardless of items, you can still kill the boss fast
swift rain
I mean it depends. . . Like you ācanā but that sort of creates more of a meta between characters then
dull ingot
I think an artifact has to be fun, and impactful to your whole run, especially in monsoon, all the current artifacts do that, this one feels a bit like its just there for the idea of it, not really for the insanity or chaos the artifacts create.
charred void
In a normal run chances are youāll have to leave the teleporter zone anyways so there isnāt even a big difference between them. You guys both act like you would lose 10 minutes fighting the boss
swift rain
Never said that either
More so that damage output just objectively varies between characters
Its especially terrible with Honor if itās moving because well nearly every spawn is a Hordes spawn and on Distant Roost. . . I mean it is worst case but the fact itās a possibility at all is just distasteful
wise knoll
@charred void can you link me the artifact idea? i want to read it
dull ingot
wise knoll
ok, ive read it
my question is:
what would that change or impact? the teleporter event is an event where a boss spawns and spawn rates are upped
making the teleporter move around would just make it harder to charge and more arkward
polar anvil
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tranquil ridgeBOT
SCPF spy#3026 was banned
spring dawn
This game is so similar to the first one, that again the only item Challenge i havent Done is the one where You have to drown something
Love IT
dull ingot
Hahaha
tawny zodiac
it really is amazing how well the devs translated it to 3d
spring dawn
what is your longest time in monsoon? i'm currious if my best run is a good one or not
wispy shore
Lol. True. My longest was an obliteration on monsoon cause Iām still working on skins
swift rain
I like to go for damage cap runs, see how high you can push that number
@spring dawn hereās my PB
rare meadow
y u gettin so many keys
swift rain
For that sweet sweet loot
Someone always asks why stack 100 keys, I think 100 keys is something like 80-90% legendary item
charred void
making the teleporter move around would just make it harder to charge and more arkward
@wise knoll
Which is why you can stand on the teleporter. Besides, it wouldnāt move any faster than the player unless you grabbed a lot of confused convergence
rare meadow
i see
swift rain
So 7m/s at base or would the speed of the teleporter scale with the player ?
Or like is 7m/s the cap before convergence stacks ?
Either way it doesnāt address the whole point of it being unnecessarily awkward @charred void
charred void
No, it would go 3-5ms before convergence
swift rain
Thatās what I meant by cap like āno faster thanā
charred void
Itās like no one ever reads my post before they give me criticism
Yeah before convergence
swift rain
And I did read it lmao
charred void
But hopoo could change if they want
Then why do you feel the need to ask dumbass questions that are answered in the post
I really woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Iām having a shitty morning. Iām sorry dude
swift rain
Because thereās a concern of longevity there, because if the speed then didnāt scale the whole mechanic of the teleporter moving becomes negligible the very moment mobility is fixed, at which point the whole āsubstantial differenceā it brings to the table as an idea is whitewashed by the fact itās presence may as well not be there at all because all it would serve for is a pretty superficial alteration.
swift rain
Hahaha well yeah I didnāt consider that
charred void
You donāt gotta like my idea. What matters to me is that Iām putting my effort into it. I just want something uniquely fun integrated into the game. This would be my version of fun, along with the countless others who have absolutely loved my idea just like myself.
pearl hedge
Never said it was a bad idea
charred void
Thatās what everyone is implying. Have a good day, mine is already too shit to deal with the negativity Iām getting
pearl hedge
charred void
I donāt see any legs š¤
swift rain
@charred void Havenāt said your idea is bad at all, simply giving criticism where itās due, mainly outlining where there are still pitfalls in the implications of said idea
charred void
Most of the shit in that channel has even more pitfalls than my post as well as have less than half the effort put behind it. Iām done talking about my idea with you. Iām never going to make you happy
polar anvil
@charred void you're saying it like your ideas are perfect and never need criticism
charred void
No, Iām saying it like I have put hours into taking feedback and making the idea as good as it is now. If you guys think it is bad now then you shouldāve seen the og post
swift rain
@charred void Just because something can be criticised doesnāt then quantify its worth as an idea, itās the kind of criticism it receives and the recourse and response the author then takes to either rectify or ignore it, and you seem to be taking the latter approach with the pure notion of ābecause I spent x amount of hours on itā
charred void
Iām honestly just gunna block. Iām done with my idea being tore down lol
swift rain
Iām not trying to tear it down
polar anvil
slim you aren't making yourself look good by blocking someone criticizing your idea
swift rain
Iāve spent months developing my character concept, and even I know itās not perfect, and yeah it is possible to look too closely at your own idea, but no matter how developed it is, it will never be void of criticism, thereās always room for improvement thatās why #ror2-feedback-and-ideas exists at all
polar anvil
@charred void no one will be upvoting your ideas sooner or later,as long as you block good criticizers
charred void
Like I said earlier, Iām not having the best day rn. Please stop @ me for the time being. I need time to relax my brain
polar anvil
mute pings then
swift rain
As long as you can respond to criticism with justification as to why that criticism would be there, at the very least shows youāve considered the things that it outlines, you instead go on the defensive and think that simply because Iām making criticisms at all of your idea is bad, when that couldnāt be farther from the truth, Iām all for new ideas and perspectives, I encourage them, but that doesnāt mean I then need to champion your idea to prove that, itās counter intuitive, the whole point of criticism is so that the idea progresses to the best form it can take, because you canāt expect yourself to take everything into consideration, thereāll always be a perspective that contradicts yours and you wonāt always be right, all you can do is do your best, but you limit yourself when you deny criticism in lieu of a mediocre idea which could be so much better.
honest smelt
I just want ancient scepter back...
umbral knoll
Ancient Scepter is the item that upgrades your fourth ability right?
I think itād be cool to get it back but in a grander scale like it upgrades all your skills somehow
pine iris
@flat bobcat are you pleased
dull ingot
we are never pleased
pine iris
22 red whips now
honest smelt
@umbral knoll I just wouldnāt want it to be even more must-have than it already is, but with your idea it does make it more useful for Mul-T
pearl hedge
people have no class these days
pearl hedge
050 is my actual coin count lol
ornate stirrup
My actual coin count is 150 I think (maybe 10-15 more)
Thatās more than enough IMO
pearl hedge
well there you go, three registers for the actual coin count
ornate stirrup
Is this the sophisticated RoR chat
š§
Hopoo, I am glad you acknowledge the struggle
wispy shore
Andddd finally! I now have 100 lunar coins saved up! š
polar anvil
Now waste all in one run 
wispy shore
Stack glass? Sounds like a winner
I believe the most I ever had in 1 run was 7 (and I actually got lucky with lunar pods on most of them)
polar anvil
Don't dare stacking glass
lofty osprey
Burn it all on Effigies like a real man
polar anvil
^
wispy shore
š
Lol. Bout to get blue meteorite and loads of fuel cells..
Letās see how much this Xbox can take
lofty osprey
Jesus
deft leaf
brittle crown
wispy shore
I also have 3 gestures
lofty osprey
Iāve yet to crash on my switch, an Xbox should be fine lol
wispy shore
Iām planning on stacking fuel cells and hitting all at once with meteorite.... how bad could this possibly be?
polar anvil
As bad as it sounds
wispy shore
I am currently about to flex my dodging skills with this feat
lofty osprey
Send a picture of your Xbox on fire after
wispy shore
We will see
deft hamlet
I'm really digging the menus in the console versions of the game. I didn't mind using a cursor to navigate, but optimizing the menus for the controller is highly appreciated! They feel much nicer.
strange bear
I took this in April
lusty raft
Lemurian spear fishing
strange bear
the magma worm looks shocked
vague phoenix
should be in memes lol
wise knoll
slimebomb
please
if you're going to post your ideas for something in a public channel, where the main goal for it is to see what would make the game better aka feedback
then do not throw a tantrum over someone that is criticising your idea in a very through, nice way
i would understand if he was a little shit, but he isn't, and you have no right to block him for that
@charred void yes i am petty
charred void
If they gave feedback I could work with yes. Itās like they wanted me write out a 10 page essay on the shit. There are plenty of posts that are made that donāt even have have of the effort put into them like mine. Regardless of any of that now, those guys are still dicks, and the post is gone so it really doesnāt matter anymore.
wise knoll
your mindset that you put more effort into it so your idea is better than criticism is still there
there is such thing as something being fundamentally flawed
charred void
And I tried my best. I still have the post, maybe one day Iāll put it back on once itās more developed
wise knoll
thats a good mindset
hopefully it can be better and we can all collectively like it and what it brings to the table
charred void
Iād just like to mention that the reason I was getting upset was because my day was going shitty. I have a lot going on irl and that was making me stressed out. Iām sorry to those I got upset at, just know it wasnāt the real me talking.
charred void
Thank you.
thorn terrace
I somehow did zero sum on accident whilst on monsoon
flat bobcat
it be like that sometimes
placid hawk
I couldn't pull off a single godrun with loader so far, artifacts are sacri, swarm, vengence and my ass.
Maybe next time with Transcendence.
steep torrent
hi
i dont have mic
i just wantmed to hear you guys
inviteme guys
@limpid briar addme
steam friend code:283796024
are you guys in lobby?
profiles/76561198244061752
wise knoll
@teal carbon lfg-pc
placid hawk
At last! I made it with Loader!
cobalt aspen
congrats!
placid hawk
Thanks
pine iris
time for commando mastery cheese
patent pumice
imagine needing to cheese to get mastery š³ 
latent cipher
nice
shut jewel
a distinct lack of 
pine iris
I don't have that mod
pine iris
I didn't add metamorph because I want commando mastery next
not another mastery
lusty raft
@pine iris take off command then
pine iris
it's supposed to be an almost MAAO
without metamorphasis
pine iris
I got to stage 8
I died to my own ceremonial dagger
final shadow
Tough luck
umbral knoll
I really like that with every content update the art for it is always Commando sitting on something surrounded by the big part of it
broken ginkgo
cus commando is a good boy
gloomy totem
Commando sits on acrids back
hollow pawn
Btw whatās commandos main straight?
Oh yea
Woopsi
Are frag granades worth unlocking?
I already got blast tho
final shadow
Frag Grenades are harder to use than Suppressive Fire, but if you use them correctly, they can be better
broken ginkgo
Granades remove commandos main weaknesses in early game, lack of AoE
And they overall deal decent damage
Itās all around good sidegrade
Even tho all what suppresive fire does can be fixed with 
And who proc items like nothing? the answer is 
Here
Catch frag
swift rain
Loader would just punch it
hollow pawn
Is there any huntress mains
flat bobcat
i am Here
jade cosmos
Donāt know why I thought of this but loader is just brick with a grapple hook, ight imma go dip for another century
tender raft
Oi
jade cosmos
But counter point brick is the prettiest siren so itās still accurate
past panther
Hmm... I kinda think, what would be if Lunar Coins were based off of total amount of coins player ever got, resetting on each run to that total amount.
But as a downside to it, Lunar Coins would be much more rare and hard to obtain.
I think it might work as a nice way to remove coin grind/editing and allow players to have fun with them.
lusty raft
That would encourage editing more
As they could create "funny numbers" and have that forever
past panther
Those "funny numbers" anyway last forever, how would it impact that?
Like, they're not going to spend a million of coins in their entire life unless they try specifically that. It's practically endless coins for them.
On the other hand, it would give fair players an opportunity to have fun without grinding for each run. Only grind once.
safe vapor
maybe make them only drop from obliteration/moment whole
pine iris
uhhhh
what do I build REX for
swift rain
What you mean ?
slim cargo
the answer is healing
slim cargo
Meat, Leeching, Aegis so you can spam that secondary and special
swift rain
[or not] depends on how interactive you wanna be with him
slim cargo
hrmm
pine iris
laughs in apparently borked drop chance on Sacrifice without editing files
wait
why don't I get razorwire and break the universe
razorwire builds are the new meta on REX
pine iris
I used REX's regular shift on a pot in aqueduct
it vanished
dull ingot
h e y o lads question
for someone wanting to get the game
what's the gameplay time? is it endless? or is there a point where you've kind of done everything?
languid yarrow
With version 1.0 coming out in August on PC there will be a finite ending
But you have now, and will have in 1.0, the option to loop back around and keep playing if you want, as things get stronger and stronger
languid yarrow
dull ingot
I've never played a roguelike before but this looked like a lot of fun
one thing i kinda look for is like
long play times? like, overwatch, LoL, those kind of games and 'endless' in a way lol
spring bone
Your runs will average like 1-2 hours
Like, a really long game of league except fun the whole time
prisma lava
Until a stray rock hits you on sky meadows and u die
dense pumice
It's pretty much a Third Person Shooter
I can't aim for shit on controllers, so k&m imo
gaunt wing
dull ingot
fair
prisma lava
Controller... it works there is also motion controls but for me. Aiming with people like commando is hard.
Keyboard and mouse is great for aiming and you can change the controls.(looking at you default pc sprint button)
safe vapor
yeah, my sprint button got changed a long time ago
safe vapor
gyro?
slim cargo
nintendo whoosh
safe vapor
oh
yeah, i have had problems with it on the switch
i have not tried ror2 on switch yet tho
so i would not know
can you turn it off?
slim cargo
yes
safe vapor
nice
violet forum
Just donāt be like 80 yrs old with parkinsonās and itās fine
strange bear
I installed the first risk of rain game today and I have to hold x to move left while I have to use LS to move right
Iād there a way to make it so I can use only LS or do I just have to deal with it
Iām using an Xbox one controller
strange bear
Nvm fixed it
honest smelt
Why did void fields give me clay with glasses
Why do they have tougher times now wtf
Yeah I did donāt want my monsoon ended
plush garnet
So i went through the first loop on monsoon yesterday, i was able to find everything except those damn movement boosting items. Not a single one wasn't found
Oh, i found a single Paul's goat hoof
umbral knoll
I feel like Artificer is underwhelming as a survivor and I think itās do to her primary being the only one with a shot limit
broken ginkgo
I feel like Artificer is underwhelming as a survivor and I think itās do to her primary being the only one with a shot limit
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624300101577211917/723639603810140222/Looks_like_I_picked_the_wrong_week_to_quit_drinking.mp4
Artificer hac best burst damage with a very good CC capability + Old guliotine effect from the start, idk how that could be "underwhelming"
umbral knoll
Her gameplay feels slow to me
broken ginkgo
If you dont like her gameplay than ok, but dont bs on survivor calling her "underwhelming"
umbral knoll
Something āfeelingā underwhelming is an opinionated thing
broken ginkgo
your problem then
brisk rune
cunning karma
strange bear
Or if once she fired every shot the cooldown would restore every charge
orchid storm
this was probably the most intense fight i ever had
got guidance offline on moonsoon with huntress
...and died against magma worm when trying to teleport
umbral knoll
Thatās rough
orchid storm
literally spent 20 mins just to kite the boss out
got omega-lucky with early game titanic knurl and i also had the fruit as equipment so i had heal on demand
umbral knoll
That sounds like it wouldāve been a good run
orchid storm
ye
but then i accidentally activated the vultures boss and it ended up in the trash
magma worm had like 40k hp and i barely had items
mastery huntress soontm
umbral knoll
It always sucks when you got a good run then it fails to some bad luck
tired juniper
now do it on monsoon
ivory depot
huh.
paper grotto
[M E N A C I N G]
outer spoke
tired juniper
i died to a beetle...
the shame
i blame getting stuck in a corner
because i was looking up so i couldn't see what was behind me and there were a ton of celestine enemies
if i had ONE ukelele
that would have been an ez run
tired juniper
i had like 7 atgs at 50 minutes
tired juniper
next run: ukelele third item
orchid storm
Ye. Imagine my face I get an Ukulele 3D printer one run and next run I see literally 0 Ukuleles in 40 mins
broken ginkgo
tired juniper
how to clear enemies swarming your cell vent:
- have two shrines of mountains give you three razorwires
- strategic masochism
broken ginkgo
tired juniper
that comes later
maybe
tf jellyfish send you flying
it also involves hurting yourself even after the mobs are killed
and has a cooldown
last vent has interstellar desk plant. how convenient
broken ginkgo
Can be fixed literally by having few 
tired juniper
bruh not when the mobs are all dead
broken ginkgo
Razorwire + is literally a better version of Tesla
tired juniper
except it involves equipment slot
tired juniper
if only razorwire still proc'd on attacks that were blocked
tired juniper
that's not what i was talking about but okay
broken ginkgo
Just fun š
tired juniper
70 minutes in and no crit glasses :c
broken ginkgo
tired juniper
well i did get a clover in bazaar but i didn't want to give up my guillotine :c
no atgs either
broken ginkgo
pearl hedge
they do with enough 
tired juniper
LMAO
now all i need is a teddy bear printer and ithink i'm set to go for incorruptible
overloading worm in abyssal's caverns :c
it ran
i just got eaten
noooooooooooo
where was my osp REEEEEE
i had everything i needed for a good run except for an abundance of teddy bears
im actually so tilted
i had 5 teddy bears
didn't block either of the hits :/
dull ingot
I got this one 32 stage run on rainstorm, ik it's not monsoon but I still thought it was pretty good
analog roost
Anybody think crossplay might come out?
dark tree
really makes you think.
azure sleet
polar anvil
glass stacker 
slim cargo
ew glass stacker
pine iris
glass stacker
plain hare
How the hell do you die with 3 unused Dios?
pine iris
Oblit
languid yarrow
that's obliteration lol
orchid storm
LOL
patent pumice
artifacts aren't balanced, and thats really the point
atomic tulip
Command for fun, not for balance
tired juniper
i've had so many otherwise good runs end because i didn't get enough teddy bears by 60 minutes :c
final shadow
Which is why we should nerf Teddy Bears
If people depend on them that much to stay alive, they're too good of an item
spare elm
Old Teddy gave armor. Maybe make it do that again?
Repulsion Armor plate doesn't do much outside of DoT reduction when enemies 1-shot you anyways
final shadow
First off, Teddy shouldn't be able to give more than 50% block chance. When it goes above 50%, you automatically assume attacks should get blocked instead of not blocked.
Second, we need armor items. Just to make the game a bit more balanced.
drifting shore
when it goves above 50%, we still try not to get hit cuz rng is a bitch
final shadow
It still feels unfair when you do get hit though, because you expect to not get hit.
drifting shore
i think the playerbase has just wholy accepted that it sometimes happens
final shadow
It's a psychological thing, it still feels unfair when it does
drifting shore
i see, i dont share the same sentiment
anyways
armor items and balancing
we got one of those armor items as is, they're rpetty good early game, one just cant feasibly stack enough of them to have them scale
tired juniper
what if razorwire proc'd on hits that eddy bears blocked
drifting shore
people tend not to want to get hit even with teddies anyway
just run hellfire
tired juniper
what, does hellfire go through teddies?
polar anvil
no
tired juniper
yeah nice try
pine iris
lusty raft
Its the exact same link
wooden furnace
@young relic to use links like that put <(PUT LINK HERE)> (put the link in arrows)
lusty raft
@dreamy pilot nice try
dreamy pilot
polar anvil
@pastel carbon rule 3
tooooootally
as if you haven't said anything about a server you're inviting in
in any way
@wooden mortar they spammed above message in diff channels so it's spam anyways
patent pumice
dude a mod was already called.
polar anvil
yeah sure who cares about so called rules
stupid thing right?
patent pumice
the mod role was pinged in another chat
polar anvil
i have no knowledge on that
patent pumice
you
- Spammed in multiple chats
- Advertising your server
polar anvil
what chat
patent pumice
theorycraft
polar anvil
oh
tired juniper
went for artifact of vengeance and the clone kept jumping into the void. nice
signal portal
Going for Aureliās log and i have only found 1 gold altar
Command is wild
In this run I have found 3/5 of the elite drops
Just need to find the Malachite and Blazing ones
signal portal
Got the integer overflow to happen, my life is complete
pearl hedge
gz
tired juniper
was gonna do twisted scav to end off
and game crashes after i pick up beads and exit bazaar
probably an issue with mods
was only stage 22
oh the bright side i think i also finished unlocking every artifact
okay well it didn't actually crash but it's just not loading the next stage. i can go to the esc menu
welp
i guess that's a softlock?
what a sad way to end a run
swift rain
Probably a mod problem
bitter nova
that probably hurt
novel idol
Is there anyway pass the Scavenger Item Horder?
tired juniper
you don't have to fight them. just move onto the next stage before they get too many items
novel idol
it was the boss
flat bobcat
then kill him
novel idol
Solo run level 15 stalemate - couldn't kill him
frosty stream
What healing did it have?
pine iris
am I the only one who prefers slicing winds to eviscerate?
flat bobcat
no
brittle trout
flat bobcat
supposedly, it's getting buffed in release
pine iris
good
I can still have I-frames with his shift
flat bobcat
yes, but there are more iframes with eviscerate
pine iris
and?
I like my ranged attack
flat bobcat
not to mention the second-or-so of invincibility once you come out of it
polar anvil
yeah but praying to iframes is kinda loser
lusty raft
You dont pray if you control it
flat bobcat
eh, I think it's fun to actually try to dodge attacks with his iframes instead of spamming them in every engagement
which is what most mercs do
lusty raft
But you cant tell IF youve dodged it cuz of iframes
flat bobcat
yes you can
you use your eyes and see the attack coming, and then dodge it using your shift or ult
if you dodge successfully, you don't get hit
dull ingot
Getting buffed on release? From what I saw it just applies the debuff on last hit
Not much
Also if you don't want to rely on iframes just build attack speed
To make the window smaller
pearl monolith
Its not exactly hard to iframe attacks, it boils down to how lazy you want to be
The expose should do well for me as i just hold attack due to playing rocket league its a habit to just keep my middle finger on RT
dry mirage
Slicing winds has in general worse damage potential until it actually works with attack speed
dry mirage
Slicing winds is ranged but it being ranged makes no sense and has pretty much no use coz its gonna be used mainly in melee range
Ah yes just gonna do peanut dmg on something 150 meters behind me while slashing on something in front of me
Using it in melee range on the enemies u are attacking is the way its mostly gonna be used
So being ranged very much makes no sense
You can but as said, ranged on a melee character makes no sense because you will be right in front of them anyway
I only said its shite if you dont follow up on it
And just throw it out
I have played too much of merc to not know how
But it also makes me question ur knowledge about the attack speed + evis vs winds
dense pumice
Seems like Slicing Winds will get a buff in the next update, so you might want to learn how to play with it
pearl hedge
Wait, the other way around lol
rough moth
I find it odd they are buffing merc so much
Like knocking 1 sec of your CD's every 3 hits is kinda mad
Also the bonus dmg is nice
elfin onyx
I suspect we're going to be seeing buffs across the board
deft leaf
hopefully mul-T and acrid will get some good buffs
broken ginkgo
Commando doesnāt need any updates, he already good what he is
Mul-t can have some tweaks here and there with scrap launcher, nothing more
deft leaf
commandos first secondary could use a buff but other than that he's fine as is
mul-T on the other hand has nothing going for him except tanking which becomes useless past first loop
broken ginkgo
Make it stun, take it or leave it.
Mult is about dealing damage
A very good constant damage
Idk what you talking about
Only scrap launcher can deserve some tweaks
deft leaf
i think you're highly overestimating stun, you can't use it reliably since it can only stun so many enemies at once also the proc chance doesn't help
limpid briar
@deft leaf, let's get into a match. I bet you that whatever survivor you play, it will not matter because you will never beat my MUL-T in terms of highest damage and lowest deaths.
Every player who gets into a match with me, when I play MUL-T, instantly get converted into the MUL-Train.
broken ginkgo
Stunning 70% of all mobs every 4 sec? Iām fine with it
Thatās why incredibly powerful on commando and saw mult
deft leaf
more single damage beats constant damage
polar anvil
yeah then have another fat enemy spawn right after you use grenades
deft leaf
fun but you'll get overwhelmed also rex has the best dps not mul-T
potent halo
Why would you use saws on MUL-T? 
polar anvil
yeah why would one use biggest dps weapon
deft leaf
you'll run into problems with flying enemies
limpid briar
I've had the exact same response, but each time; my MUL-T always had triple the Rex damage.
potent halo
Being close range as MUL-T is dangerous
dull ingot
dangerous for the enemies
limpid briar
If you think I was playing with bad Rex players then let's get into a match, show me a good Rex.
potent halo
No, for you
deft leaf
i don't play rex
potent halo
Which platform are you, cres?
dull ingot
but how do you know that rex has the best dps then?
limpid briar
PC.
deft leaf
i don't play on PC
potent halo
Do you use dual-saws?
dull ingot
rex isn't pc exclusive
limpid briar
Nail-gun and Power-saw. I'm not experienced enough to go double Power-saw.
deft leaf
i'm saying that i couldn't play with cres even if i wanted @dull ingot
potent halo
Oh...
limpid briar
Understandable.
deft leaf
overall you'll be using nail-gun half of the time atleast so in terms of dps rex wins easily unless you only face grounded enemies
limpid briar
That's odd. It's the complete opposite for me when I play MUL-T. I give up the Nail-gun after 4th stage because of Power-saw.
potent halo
Has nobody calculated the dps of survivors?
limpid briar
I have, but it's outdated because haven't recorded Rex Utility skill cooldown change, Huntress's special skill cooldown change, and Acrid's new secondary skill.
broken ginkgo
Rex has best dps in the game cus of ez m2 spam, artificer has best burst dmg, mult also have one of the best dmg cus of the saw
polar anvil
saw is 1000% per second right
deft leaf
yeah
polar anvil
rex m2 is 650% every shot,which is every second
polar anvil
no?
limpid briar
Rex M2 is 450% every shot.
polar anvil
oh
broken ginkgo
He can fire his m1 tho and cool down is 0,5
polar anvil
450+450=900
polar anvil
as if mul-t doesn't have other abilities
deft leaf
also it's ranged so, you can use it for everything, there are no problems like damage drop-off or flying enemies
broken ginkgo
If you ram into someone you wouldnāt be able to saw them
So no, Rex still have best dps in the game, if Rex was in his v1 form, it wouldnāt be that spammable
limpid briar
Rex's M1 is 80x3 which is 240%. The M2 is around a second total due to pressing and releasing. So, in a single second, the damage would be 690% damage a second. The weaken is helpful though.
broken ginkgo
I would say 0,75 at max, cus you just constantly pressing it
limpid briar
In terms of no items, Rex would be better than MUL-T, for damage.
deft leaf
might be able to use macro
broken ginkgo
We were speaking about no items, with items saw will have better results cus of crazy proc chance
limpid briar
However, MUL-T's scaling is far superior than Rex because Rex's M1 proc co-efficient is 0.5.
shrewd sandal
pearl hedge
ya might wanna do that in #ror2-feedback-discussion and attach a link to the post with the idea
unreal thicket
thorn terrace
I had a run with commando and I had 202 
potent halo
How was the frame rate?
pulsar fox
I wish I was better at this game so I could test my new supercomputer with those crazy builds xD
glad hazel
weird flex but ok
dull ingot
Just got a new pb as a new player I'm proud of a 35 minute run to stage 4. It's not A lot, but I personally am glad to see I'm doing better than I was at first
lusty raft
Welcome to roguelikes jazz music starts playing
dull ingot
Fuck yeah first one I actually really clicked with properly and am genuinely enjoying
dull ingot
I really enjoyed dead cells I just never stuck with it tbh
lusty raft
Dead cells got made easier smh
swift rain
It did somewhat, the lower curve didnāt really hurt the late game though
@dull ingot Whatās the farthest youāve gotten in a run ? What build do you prefer playing to ? Who was your first Boss ? These are vital questions
dull ingot
It's been a good few months so it's kinda fuzzy
Probably just gonna throw myself back in because I enjoyed the game a lot
dead cells good
haven't tested the new update yet
lusty raft
@swift rain kindly explain how his first boss can be anything but the uhh..... whatsthenew....
Its like midnight and i havent played in months...
The Concierge!
swift rain
It was a trick question
And that boys thick stone booty cheeks arenāt something you forget
lusty raft
Ha, i got no hit hand of the king b4 no hit concierge
Im actualky quite disappointed in myself..
swift rain
You should both be disappointed in yourselves
lusty raft
Hey look
Ive become a degenerate in the past few days anyway
I cant become any more disappointed in myself
:D
tidal wagon
mmm
dull ingot
same
swift rain
Thatās fair enough
tidal wagon
lol i just realized crescendo is on champions ring
swift rain
Well there you go, the more you know
dull ingot
@swift rain what's the farthest you have gotten in the run tho?
lusty raft
@swift rain the real question is. Have you beat the collector?
swift rain
I donāt wanna talk about it. . . <^< Iām just gonna say, whatever you think, it is probably the case.
swift rain
Iām disappointed in myself. . . The most
swift rain
@-@ well youāve made it farther than me. . .
lusty raft
Spill.
swift rain
My tea doesnāt spill, I have my dignity goddammit, you donāt wanna know, I didnāt wanna know but I do and now Iām telling you, you donāt wanna know
lusty raft
You dont even have one Stem cell do you?
swift rain
I hit the chromosome overflow cap
tidal wagon
lol nice
i posted something in the feedback and the command didnt play and now i am hungry
stray sequoia
anyone down to help me with prismatic trials real quick ???!
vestal rivet
stray sequoia
oof
glad hazel
Ha
flat bobcat
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thorn terrace
I wish they would bring back burning witness
I really miss that, and the Nematocyst Nozzle
sly dust
y e s
bright palm
I'd love to see wicked ring return but it might break the game
wanton sable
looks at MUL-T with Capped crit and nailgun
I could see how that would be a problem
bright palm
With merc, you could just hold down your R key and win
bright palm
ror1 items, ye
some of them exist in the files but are unimplemented, like wicked ring
wintry thicket
ohh neat
pulsar fox
It would be nice to dive in those files
thorn terrace
I remember when Imp overlord had a boss item
Although I canāt complain about the Ifrit not being in ror2, I hated that boss
thorn terrace
I was casually browsing through reddit and found this
Reminds me of the days where me and my friend would be healed halfway across the map
broken ginkgo
thorn terrace
I didnāt know that even existed
cunning oyster
Engineers turrets have their own ecosystems
soft hamlet
tardy raft
I'm proud of you teranobyl
I got the same thing a little while ago. 100% what they've got in the game so far
shrewd sandal
Nice
signal portal
Speakin of 100%, just got aureliās log. Now I just need Titanic Plains and Wetland Aspect
thorn terrace
I didnāt even realize Aurelionite had a log
signal portal
Sadly it does and itās painful to get
plucky terrace
iomagine trying to get the logbook off the final boss when he/she is realised
signal portal
Oh lord
plain fractal
how on earth are you supposed to do the mercenary monsoon obelisk run?
polar anvil
iframes and rng
plain fractal
Well I got some skill and luck
thin anchor
Brobelisk
steel tiger
im havin a rough time getting my Engi monsoon runs off the ground
any fun builds to try that might make things a lil smoother?
neon ore
If your turrets are stationary, Fungus all the way wit hNukahanas Opinion, most things die whe nthey get close especially if you find a Tesla or Dios. For that route, Aegis is a must to protect from 1-shots. If mobile turrets basically a Commando build; stack attacks speed and proc based items like bands, daggers, At least one death mark, and Goat hoofs for turret movement.
tiny glacier
Crowbars and Wisps
fading skiff
real elbow
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa defensive items are useless aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
you hit a certain point in the game and then things just start oneshotting you so having 1k+ health and multiple flat damage resist just means nothing
broken ginkgo
Except you still can scale health high enough to tank a lot of dmg
deft leaf
except topaz, you get two one-shot protections that way
broken ginkgo
Topaz and 
barrier donāt give you osp anymore
broken ginkgo
Why you even needed 2 osp
deft leaf
it's fun to abuse
broken ginkgo
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dull ingot
except topaz, you get two one-shot protections that way
barrier never gave you osp to begin with
you seem to contradict yourself
deft leaf
it's nothing compared to using command to make everything super easy
i forgot which is which
deft leaf
i took a break from the game
dull ingot
you could've at least check the news
broken ginkgo
Than why you arguing @deft leaf
dull ingot
y'know, to not completely get lost when you return
deft leaf
arguing wasn't my plan
i was planning on doing it when i return
besides it's minor and i mostly just ignore minor changes
broken ginkgo
plush garnet
Finally I'm back
lusty raft
Or are you
mental zinc
ok
shrewd sandal
if someone can get me this image I will be very happy
wintry thicket
the full size of that image is in #ror-memes-archive if you scroll up
shrewd sandal
Thanks @wintry thicket
visual radish
is there any point to using dodge roll after you unlock slide on commando
karmic sparrow
Idk
karmic sparrow
Anyone want to play with me I'm on switch
deft leaf
#lfg-switch-ror2 @karmic sparrow
visual radish
hey for mando's incorruptible challenge, lunar coins dont count as lunar items yeah
deft leaf
sometimes nobody is online, it happens
steel tiger
slide is v useful for getting to some hard to reach places
like the lunar shrines on Abandoned Aquaduct
since it acts as like a weird aerial hop thing when used in the air
spring dawn
the new character. would it work if it is the final boss of the first game? (forgot it's name)
except for the worms it might work i think
steel tiger
it would if he weren't dead
we kind of saw to that in the first game lol
i'm not sure how his kit would translate into RoR2 and still be balanced, either tbh
spring dawn
true. but all the characters die all the time in the game.
it could be another melee.
steel tiger
theoretically, but Providence dying is a fixed point in the story-
which RoR2 continues
it's unfortunate, but he's gone for good
spring dawn
one of his main moves is a teleport from above.
too bad. would be fun to play as a boss
that isn't the original acrid
steel tiger
probably
but, oh well ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
spring dawn
but if, and probably not, but if, what would be it's moveset
steel tiger
likely something similar to his first and third phase's moveset from RoR1, but condensed into a smaller scale to be more balanced and viable
it'd be cool if they carried over the wurms, but it's unlikely cause being able to summon those at will would be broken as hell
spring dawn
maybe the worms could be a small pet or something, but i think that wouldn't happen.
i think that m1 would be a melee attack like 3 slash of mercenary.
m2 a ranged attack, the delayed projectiles,
shift the teleport downsmash
and q a shockwave
iknow, but still fun to think what it could be like
patent pumice
you could ask someone who makes characters to come up with a concept, or do so yourself
shrewd sandal
Roll is better than slide
You're always jumping around as commando
Slide does basically nothing in the air
dull ingot
There are quite a few modded characters of old RoR1 characters that play extremely well
Just found one of Sniper that actually works pretty reasonably in 3D despite the fact that RoR2 is a speedy game
There appears to be a few bugs but it seems like a pretty good character so far
spring dawn
the balista of the huntress is practicly a sniper rifle, so it's not hard to imagine, the mod is called sniper? maybe i'll check it out.
deft leaf
also pierce
spring dawn
pierce in ror2 is less usefull than pierce in ror. it's harder to get everything in a straight line after all.
while the glave is amazing.
dull ingot
glaves have cooldown
and they can only kill 6 people at max
and on solo targets they're practically useless
spring dawn
how about a couple dozen backup magazines.
and there aren't many times that you only have one enemy
deft leaf
it's still slow and only does 150 percent damage
spring dawn
and if you have, a balista will make quick work of it
dull ingot
Balista has cooldown and there are no items that increase the amount of charges you can have of your R
spring dawn
btw. doesn't the glave increase in damage with every hit?
deft leaf
yes it does, by 10 percent each iirc
deft leaf
just add a crowbar and you'll one-shot every wisp
steel tiger
crowbar + dagger = no more wisps
deft leaf
i'm talking early game, before everything just dies, explodes and kills everything else and so on
steel tiger
that's fair
yeah, crowbars'll go a long way early on
i like pairing them with guillotine so i can delete elites later on cause Celestines arent that bad on their own, but when they're hiding Malachites that get free potshots cause they're invisible they become lethal
deft leaf
i'm pretty much the same
wintry thicket
i am different
frosty stream
Hi, different. 
glad hazel
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polar anvil
i can't help but say D A S H
main sparrow
Punch things, sprint around a lot lol
limpid ore
really depends on which punch you use
main sparrow
Thunder gauntlet ftw
north wind
gotta go fast
rough jackal
Speed is a must for loader, her charged and thunder gauntlet will increase damage the faster you run. Also learn to use her grapple.
Charged gaunlet can be used to pierce thru enemies
Thunder will nuke everyone in a cone shape and possible kill everyone around you
tired juniper
i like thunder gauntlet better
primarily because it doesn't have a long charge time and i can bounce off and up if i land the hit
rough jackal
True That
tardy raft
Just got to the celestial portal on monsoon with every single artifact turned on. Wondering if anyone else has gotten this?
final shadow
Multiple people. It's called a MAAO, a Monsoon All Artifacts On run.
pearl hedge
Obliteration*
final shadow
My bad
signal portal
Hardest Vanilla but yeah
deft leaf
there's also 16 player difficulty
full gale
deft leaf
it's a mod
dull ingot
sharp zenith
Thereās a mod that tricks the game into thinking there are more players than there are
I once set it to 800 players; took 10 minutes to load and there were blazing titans everywhere
grim flicker
Whoa, what happens if you do an MAAO run?
polar anvil
you get pride
thorn terrace
I got like 4 stages in MAAO and it was so bad, I was with two others and we just killed each other
broken ginkgo
thorn terrace
It was terrible
broken ginkgo
Have you tried it to play by yourself?
Just be aware that after stage 10 only boss-type enemys would be your main incounter
Scavangers included
thorn terrace
Why would I go to 10
hollow cipher
im in a run rn and not having good luck, 2 inter. desk plants and 3 wake of vultures