Red Faction: Underground

[tepid laurel]

"Red Faction outpost eliminated" could work

"The bugs have shorted out the perimeter shields. I think I can get them back online, but the Maruaders are going to have their hands full in the meantime"

"I need you to distract the bugs while we get the shields running"

"Just watch where you shoot. There are Maruaders out there, still fighting -- and they need help"

"Don't crash, those things are expensive"

"Once we clear a path we'll need some serious firepower"

Sgt Winters: "I'm good, brother. Y'all head down there and kill that bitch"

^That's basically all of Kara's lines until she dies

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Molov: "Sopot's armies have declared their loyalty to me. I am now Chancellor of the Republic of the Commonwealth"

or

"I will use the nano-technology as it should be used. I will create an army that cannot be defeated"

Echo: "We trusted them. Hailed them as heroes, but they got the drop on us. Open fire."

Quill: "Enjoy life while you can Alias, I'm preparing a little surprise for you, and Tangier. That pretty little soldier will die screaming"

Tangier: "Alias, its up to us. To make sure that no one ever uses this technology again."

Repta: Araghhhhh! "Playtime is over Alias, lets turn up the juice."

Shrike: "I've been waiting, need a gunner, let's go Alias!"

Alias is a rough one he barely speaks

oh wait

DUH

Alias: "For the honour of the Commonwealth, get your ass into the Silo!"

im now realising most of them reference Alias but thats volitions fault 😇

[livid mural]

where are these lines? I want to verify the wording is exactly 1:1, but yeah most if not all of these sound great

[fallen latch]

molov and echo are both the betrayal cutscene

Repta is the first Fight cutscene for them

ill timestamp quill

Shrike is the cutscene after the bridge blows up

Tangier is the cutscene in the sub bay once you get into the nano base

Alias is end of Sopot Citadel

https://youtu.be/PojgW2ETnPE?t=1419 Quill

[livid mural]

@pulsar cloud

[uncut wagon]

Either that or the most badass line in the files.
"Hotdog!"

[livid mural]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bjYdwLmbS-Z73rnq2hYtYxOADPi-neG9kAUEOySUByM
Updated some quotes, most of the remaining gaps are the characters that dont speak and in RF:G

And Ray who to the best of my knowledge there is literally 0 quotes from

so something will have to be made up

[tepid laurel]

Creeper: "REEEEEEEEEE"

Frank's got some pretty good lines

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@livid mural really that line for repta? 😭

[livid mural]

I had trouble finding a better one

Where is the one you noted? I couldn't locate it

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https://youtu.be/PojgW2ETnPE?t=1863

my bad it wasn't the cutscene it was just after

also why only half the quote for shrike

[livid mural]

God this is so cringe lol. The VAs delivery is awful. But yeah there might be a good one for him here

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I mean its better than "these guys aren't so tough" 😭

[livid mural]

Trying to avoid referencing characters by name here where possible

Obviously that's impossible for RF mobile ones :p

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well forget the Alias but the "I've been waiting"

[livid mural]

Maybe it was from a different part of the game but the place I quoted didn't say that

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blowing up the bridge?

[livid mural]

there we go

better ones for shrike and repta

"You won't kill me! You'll only make me stronger!"
"Killing dictators could get to be a habit with me."

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😭

I just think shrikes contribution to the universe is needing a gunner 😭

[livid mural]

Ehh, his contribution is piloting gunships for sure lol. But it's really down to whatever line makes a better impact with 0 context when you read it on a card

and "Killing dictators could get to be a habit with me." definitely sends a statement by itself

what did you think was best for mallus again?

I read a bunch of them

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the convo he's having with darius where hes taunting i g

but im now realising that he's referencing the masons which u don't want

[livid mural]

not a dealbreaker if there's nothing better

but would prefer to avoid

this is kinda the only thing that character does though

hang on let me see how long it would be

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well the first mission of PTW

he's talking back and forth with Hale

trying to see

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Hale told me all about you Masons, you heroes of Mars, warriors of the people.

itd have to be this, it's too long to include the other part

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where is that

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yah thats the part ida been after

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first mission PTW

on the same video

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time?

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during the level they are talking back and forth

just go to the start of the video 😝

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oh

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im not getting anything significant

just seeing

its mostly Hale just telling the player (Mallus) what to do

"All towers eliminated. Distress call silenced."

[livid mural]

ehhh thats really boring lol

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its the first one thats more him reacting

😭

[livid mural]

Hale told me all about you Masons - you heroes of Mars, warriors for the people.

I guess this probably is best. It sets up who mallus is and links him to the rest of the characters

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i guess

its not really deferencing a specific character more so the dynasty i guess which is less what you're avoiding?

[livid mural]

yeah true

well its referencing hale but

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well yeah

XD

[livid mural]

this character has no purpose other than working with hale

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yah

[livid mural]

ok cool

Thankfully the RF:G characters have a lot more dialog 😛

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so really just RF:G now

yah

idk what do pick on for Kepler

[livid mural]

yeah basically

RF:G and Jake from RF:O

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Hmmmm

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oh and Kara and Winters

did we have good ones for them

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Bannasty posted what he felt for Kara ^

i think theres 2 for Winters

Winters: "hell you shoot, I'll pilot" or "I'm good, brother. Y'all head down there and kill that bitch"

[livid mural]

that bitch line sounds very very cringe to me lol

anyone else feel that way

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nope

[livid mural]

it just feels so forced

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XD

<.<

hm

did u hear it

[livid mural]

the first one could work

yeah I did

the VA's delivery is bad

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yathink?

i don't think it sounds forced at all

its more the type of dialogue i expect from Volition trying to be Volition + 2 parts edge

[livid mural]

"The Ultor scientists knew about the bugs years ago!"

I think this can work for Kara alone

without the archives piece

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Go for it

its so hard to make Kara interesting lol

[livid mural]

I don't like referencing the archives because thats not a location in this game and what they do here is never referenced

watching the video of winters now

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very lol

any idea what to do for the EDF military people in rfg

i dont recall very many lines from them

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mm

might be a Q for Arrows

idk if Halvar ever speaks

Roth ill see

For Kobel it should be something from the final cutscenes

[livid mural]

actually you know, I take that back. It doesn't sound forced. I don't think it fits RF:U very well but ithe delivery is better than I remember

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:p

cut the first part -you get Roth

[livid mural]

thats good

"You'll be dead and buried before they land a single unit on this planet."

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https://youtu.be/jnPZS4Isruw?t=4687 heres the full outro for Kobel

[livid mural]

oh damn kobel's easy

"Terminate all Red Faction insurgents."

I didnt realize that was him

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yah XD

Jenkins is rough

he's kind of a lunatic

[livid mural]

why does the hydra explode lol

[fallen latch]

and you only get betrayal voice dialogue after the games ending and u get that bonus mission

[livid mural]

that might have a good line?

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to be fair

we did point out that a rail gun going through RF1's space station would cause it to explode

[livid mural]

implode

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it probably hit something that explodes idk 😭

[livid mural]

i guess lol

doesnt broga have some good lines during the interrogation mission

if nothing, Carmen would

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I already sent you what carmen said

hm.

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that seems good

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yah ?

Theres a version of playing the collateral damage missions after you kill him

where he is just loony ranting as a ghost

[livid mural]

lmao

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but i can't find any videos of it rn

by loony ranting i mean he's trying to like

explain himself

😂

[livid mural]

yeah i think this is exactly his purpose in the story

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fair enough

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it says everything he needs to say

[livid mural]

that works

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oh ok XD

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oooo hmm

Yeah thats better

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XD

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i think the reference to retaliation which is very specific to that part of the story makes that line less attractive for this

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fair XD

god thats cold

[livid mural]

lol

Alec Mason
Dan Mason
Hugo Davies
Jon Kepler
Samanya
Vasha
Jake Mason
Halvar Gunnarsen
Ray Mason

ignoring the robots/creatures for a sec, here's who's left

alec mason could just be the "They said I was Red Faction...?" if need be lol

Or "You said this was gonna be easy!"

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"you people are outmanned and outgunned"

[livid mural]

Kepler is really hard

he says so little

i have tentative lines for Alec, Sam, Kepler... not super happy with them but theyll work if there's nothing better

kepler sounds a bit like Shrike tbh

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https://youtu.be/jnPZS4Isruw?t=1937 heres the entire carmen mission

for her and keplar maybe

[livid mural]

hmm

there's nothing really good for kepler that makes sense outside of the mission :\

maybe the mission where he gets ambushed

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wheres he get ambushed again?

[livid mural]

uhh

dogs of war i think?

same mission davies dies

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he has VA there?

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i think?

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ill run it and see

hammer of the gods is that mission

no, no keplar dialogue there

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damn

Ok well for now anyway I have usable quotes, can always change them after

any good ideas for Vasha and Jake

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im looking for the one mission in dust

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and gunnarsen? but yeah i dont recall him saying anything either

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where keplar is the driver

Halvar apparantly uses the PA system but its distorted beyond hearing

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hm

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and you kill him without dialogue

yikes

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any cool sounding lines?

im good to take a stab at what the text is lol

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https://youtu.be/jnPZS4Isruw?t=799 good luck

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Chryse is a place I dont think is outlined on the wiki O.o

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O_o

the only thing i think is usable from that driving mission sadly 🙁

the only other "viable" one

https://youtu.be/jnPZS4Isruw?t=3450 Cutscene with Vasha

[livid mural]

yeah you can't hear gunnarsen lol and anything he is saying isnt likely usable since he's apparently telling miners to gather in dust

I'll just make up something for him

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yeah

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hmmm for Vasha

i wonder if there's something good in dotb

if not, this might work:
You outlanders think us beneath you, and your mistake grants us power.

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you don't like the line of "you think us beneath yo-

yeah

that one

idk whats in DOTB

unless you fancy a trip

[livid mural]

"You get these freaks in control, or I start vaporizing" is a badass line from Alec lol

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true XD

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"This planet is rightfully ours. It will be returned to us." might be a better Vasha line

that's kinda her entire thing

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it is kind of her deal

Which is somewhat

Unironically an echo from Ultor having full control of the region

😂

[livid mural]

"If you share our dream of a prosperous and thriving planet, join us!"

better samanya quote from her voice of mars broadcast

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true

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jake's the only one left right now i think

and Ray

but Ray says literally nothing

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im having a super slow internet right now (juggling alot of things)

Jake can wait ye?

ill find something eventually

[livid mural]

I'd like a better Kepler line but... he's very uninteresting lol. Basically everything he says is specific to a given scenario

He doesnt seem to have any good one liners

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yeah

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it's interesting, watching these cutscenes and voice lines I can see where RF:C's RF:G story line diverged lol

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Its kind of quirky

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it's only the very end of the game that changes

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where do you think (gameplay wise) they were forced to change it

Hammer of the gods+

?

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nah, Manual Override

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mmmm

[livid mural]

everything vasha is doing here would fit

the only part that doesnt is putting the nanoforge in the missile

up to that point Vasha could have been duping you

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i suppose

[livid mural]

other stuff could have changed of course but that story arc would work if just everything after Manual Override were slightly different

even the satellite missile convoy protect part fits

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i really wish we'd got RF:C instead of RF:A but eh

[livid mural]

I get why they switched the rfg storyline - it would have been a bit of a downer. But all the same I think that storyline would have been more interesting

[fallen latch]

Probably changed it on risk of not getting a sequel

if RF:A never happened RF:G has a finite ending

(or like - you know - i know there was convos etc, but that was probably a factor)

[livid mural]

@uncut wagon @fallen latch @tepid laurel i need a good jake mason quote and I have NO idea where to find one lol

any ideas?

some one liner would be great

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i swear to god i will watch the movie

[livid mural]

honestly the script might be searchable somewehre

hm

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it is

i have it open

😂

ive had it on a tab since i meant to write wiki stuff for them

but its really dog shit

like its 5 words to a line

i am not kidding

hollup

this fucking got nominated for something?

it had to have been a razzie

ainnoway

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1693872/awards/?ref_=tt_awd

Jack Levy
2012 Nominee Golden Reel Award

    Best Sound Editing - Long Form Sound Effects and Foley in Television```

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WHAAAAA

how bad were SFX in 2012

[tepid laurel]

Yo link the script

[fallen latch]

you wanna read 500 words in one page?

like its effectively 50 pages of hard to follow garbage

[tepid laurel]

I found it. I'm about half way through lol

[tepid laurel]

Not if you remember the movie

"I'm more upset you hacked up my tent" goes hard in the movie, but isn't great for the card

[fallen latch]

i was gonna put the movie on 2x speed 😭

[tepid laurel]

"you know how you hate flying, Tess? Now you're really going to hate it" is a great scene

"take your shirt off" - Jake Mason

[fallen latch]

I just love that they did that with a female guard

its like

such a Volition-esque movie

honestly maybe the Movie is smarter than we give it credit

[tepid laurel]

"There aren't anyone's breasts on the planet that I want to see less"

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"keep us up top, don't let any marauders take a lucky shot at us" - meh

does convey his leadership role in the org ig

Jake: "im not much of a talker" 🤣

[livid mural]

this one is fantastic lol

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😂

Masons have such a way with words fr

[tepid laurel]

"The old mars is gone. My father ended that world. And we need to create a new one"

[livid mural]

Thats actually a really good one

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LMAOOO

[tepid laurel]

"a force empowered to protect both our nations"

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"Usually they make things explode, but this ship won't... good ship"

"good ship"

[tepid laurel]

"No matter which tribe we belong to, we're all martians"

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Tbh

that kind of does convey his purpose

@livid mural ^

[tepid laurel]

'no one went up there very much'

Ya boy just read the ENTIRE script on my phone for the sakes of only quoting the last 5 minutes

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brother id have watched the film with you

we havn't done an RF:O watch party in a minute

[tepid laurel]

😂 I'm down for a rewatch

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😂

[tepid laurel]

My last rewatch was last week

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LMFAO

of course

[tepid laurel]

i unironically like this movie

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its...

better than i remembered

but about what i expected

at the time when i watched it for the first time

[tepid laurel]

If it had actually been a TV series I reckon we'd be praising it

[fallen latch]

when you read a name like "Red Faction: Origins"

you expect to see parker holding up the admin offices

[tepid laurel]

Yeah the name is stupid

Origins should be about Eos assembling the revolt against ultor

[fallen latch]

i know i went in expecting Ultor

ye

[tepid laurel]

It should have been something related to Armageddon tbf

Like Genesis

Something biblical

But it would have slapped as a show I reckon

[fallen latch]

Red Faction: That one part of the story thats obvious after having played RF:G

[tepid laurel]

😂 yeah but Jake is actually pretty cool

He has some badass moments, just not great dialogue

I prefer him to Alec 🤷‍♂️

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Alec in RF:G or Alec in RF:O though

[tepid laurel]

RFG

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Alec in RF:G is quite abrasive and a bit dumb dumb

Alec in RF:O is an alcoholic

its not a great differential

😂

[tepid laurel]

Alec in RFO is a pretty decent written character though

"One last swing of the hammer" is hard AF too

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he has a good redemption arc but also you gotta think about who is playing him

it helps

[tepid laurel]

Yeah John cenas dad

The White Dragon

[fallen latch]

Ok

we're gonna have to talk

did u call the Terminator

a john cena father

[tepid laurel]

😂😂

That was his most recent role

And he was good in it

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😭

tf was he peacemakers dad

[tepid laurel]

Robert Patrick makes a great alcoholic piece of shit

[tepid laurel]

YEAH

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OMFG

i havn't seen it

but omg 😂

[tepid laurel]

THATS WHAT I MEANT

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tbf i havn't seen john cena

...

.....

...........

[tepid laurel]

And he's basically Alec from RFO but racist

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https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-you-cant-see-me-youre-blind-wrestler-gif-14537197

[tepid laurel]

A depressed alcoholic mourning the loss of a child

Man I'm gonna rewatch RFO

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😂

[tepid laurel]

I mean I basically just did, by reading the entire movie

[livid mural]

RF:O's name should have been "Red Faction: Legacy" or something

[livid mural]

I think this might be the best quote for Jake tbh

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i think the ending one is more fitting

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but mayb e just me

[livid mural]

Idk, that seems a bit... stoic(?) for a character who is such an idiot

it feels a little "above him" tbh

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hows jake the idiot 😭

he's the only one that believes his sister is alive 😭

[livid mural]

that's true

he's still a bit of just generic action guy though lol

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blame the writing i say

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which script pages are those 2 on?

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i imagine the one i said will be the last pages

@tepid laurel would have to ref

idk which

[livid mural]

Ok now the big question - wtf would Ray Mason say

so far as I can tell, he's mentioned exactly once in any official media

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"Rememberrrrr" - in a Mufasa echo

[livid mural]

Ok so Ray is Dan's uncle

and well Alec's uncle

and this is literally all we know about him

sweet

lol

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Its such a weird throw in

its like

"Yeah Masons were here, look see, my uncle, was there, with parker"

I think voliton were just scratching their heads going "how can we tie the masons into the full franchise"

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alright yeah I think im happy with these

@fallen latch Hmmm... any idea of a good quote for Ray from your Ray Faction initiative lol

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😄

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the card gave kara better boobs than volitions artist did

i mean that from an artist standpoint btw

seriously look at it they are just orbs positioned halfway down her top

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this is the first shot it gave me. Which honestly is super well done lol just not at all the art style I was going for

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lmao fair

[livid mural]

this is the full shot for the "good" Kara shot though. It did a super super good job

looks just like her and teven the environment is well done

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its a very cool shot

[livid mural]

on the other hand, this is the full shot for Sam

she has a Capek familiar

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WTF

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lmao

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😭

[livid mural]

i wasn't looking for buff badass Capek but we got it anyway

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thats what we got via chat gpt tbh ngl

(me and gf)

[tepid laurel]

Agreed

[tepid laurel]

Last page iirc

[waxen pelican]

N-Gage Capek, if he had himself a portrait in that port, since he uses pistol anyways

[livid mural]

@fallen harness this is why i asked about Boss Monster 😛

This game is... close

not the same - the fundamental gameplay loop is switched around a bit, but it's similar

[fallen harness]

Niiiiice..... I tried a similar thing and saw the potential...

Super powerful and really good looking

[livid mural]

thats awesome

yeah

[fallen harness]

That looks really good though 🙂

[fallen harness]

The lighting on this one is peak

[livid mural]

some of the location cards

[fallen harness]

my god

Thats such good quality

[livid mural]

im super impressed

#1403099763179782386 message
The game rules and cards are here if youre interested 😛

working on the frame for action cards currently

[fallen harness]

Ill keep watch on it. Keep it up man

[livid mural]

alec's good to go

actually, vertically centering the single-line quotes looks way nicer

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niceee!

i always liked that shot of alec slapping his fists on the table

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God it really captured how

idk

weary

dan looks

[livid mural]

yeah lol

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i also love the pixelated Nano-GL

that quote for Hugo?

is there no better Determination quote?

[livid mural]

im not a huge fan of it

would rather one like "The RF fights for Mars!" quote

but i couldnt find one

any ideas?

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could it wait till tomorrow?

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i mean sure i can change them whenever :p

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am in the trenches

sound ill have a look tomorrow

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👀

thanks man!

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❤️

this is the LAN

XD

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echo is apparently owen wilson

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XD

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ay

Repta one is dorky af

XD

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LOL

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also quill with an AR? 😮

[livid mural]

actually yeah that should really be a sniper

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yaya

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good call

i think this repta is better

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i think its funnier

😂

i mea its less goofy

but his chubby cheeks

XD

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😄

better for quill

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yah atleast its a sniper

id maybe colour shift it a bit

try and mute it a bit back to this shade

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much better

the bright yellow is more "obvious AI hue"

[livid mural]

yeah it was super red before

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you could probably also honestly try muting this a bit

[livid mural]

man wtf am i going to do for quotes for the aliens lol

do the RFA load screens have little info blocks about them? I thought they did

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i think they do

the problem is

you might have to play the game to get them all

XD

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ill 2x speed my speedrun tomorrow

i can try and get as many of em?

tomorrow though

its 4:30 am

[livid mural]

ya sure lol 😛

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Hugo Davies - Aliens

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might be able to find all/most on google too

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i mean if someones uploaded the loading screens somewhere

i should have really done it for their wiki pages

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yeah

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i guess i can fix that at some point

😂

the creeper got an expi log

idk if that counts though

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way to happy XD

[livid mural]

source lol

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yeah but he's not smiling XD

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hes also not smiling in the card image though

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that is a 🙂

[livid mural]

ehh lol

looks more like a smug smirk to me

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its not obvious XD

(to me)

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attempt 2 nailed the sinister look holy shit

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OMG YES

i wish it got the gun

but OMFG yes

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attempt 3

i dont like his face as much i think

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nah second was best

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i think im just gonna go with number 2 lol

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yah 2 was to good

could you ask it to repeat 2 exactly but try and go slightly left

😂

[livid mural]

will try, this is what I have currently

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its so good

[livid mural]

thats a great face

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its just to good to pass on

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It's the "Fuck you Alias" look

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yah

[livid mural]

side note that cutscene feels very weird lol

he's like "Alias my loyal demolitions expert!"

Then tells you about taking over Sopot's armies, Alias doesn't actually argue against it, then he's like "Fuck it, hope you like being executed"

[fallen latch]

"I thought we suppo"

Surprise fuck face, guess you also in that camp

[livid mural]

Alias says something like "Wait I thought we were allied with the RF?"

yeah it comes off moreso like he's confused, not that he necessarilly disagrees lol

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xD

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no idea what's going on with that sniper rifle lol

but other than that hm

i mean its good but not as good

maybe i can overlay the gun though lol

sec

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HAHAHAHAH

[livid mural]

hey that works pretty well lol

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that thumb is uhhhhhh

[livid mural]

hm

thumb from the old one :p

i think this works

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i mean idk i don't think a finger would ever be there but

[livid mural]

it doesnt look out of place when looking at a glance

the old one made no sense though lol

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if u proper look at it though

people do

[livid mural]

i dont think it really looks wrong if you look at it

I mean in such a pixelated form, it doesnt look unlike your thumb actually would if holding a gun like that

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btw whats going on here

[livid mural]

🤷

original image

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no way you could impose rf2 logo or w/e is supposed to be there

wait wtf

[livid mural]

i mean i could change the background a bit but no real point, that is what it looked like in the original game

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thats crazy lol

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man i cant get over how fucking pissed he looks lol

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😂

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solid

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im going to bed, but 21 characters done so far

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awesome man

[livid mural]

will probably do the rest of the rf1 RF/Ultor characters in the morning

[tepid laurel]

You should be able to get info of the enemies through the main menu

That's all of them I think

[livid mural]

@tepid laurel Thanks for these 🙂 is there one for the queen?

[tepid laurel]

Only this

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ah ok

I think i got a usable quote from Darius for the queen

"She's gonna tear this whole damn planet apart!"

[tepid laurel]

Yeah that's a good one

[livid mural]

hmmm.... I wonder

Are there enough lines from Darius/others throughout the game talking about the aliens, which could ideally roughly map to one type? :\ I only ask because yeah pulling something from those load screens is totally doable, but then there would be 5 out of 50 characters without actual spoken quotes lol

I guess the other option is to fabricate quotes that sound realistic

[tepid laurel]

Not really no. Infact most of them don't even have their name mentioned in the game outside of the data logs and loading screens

Creeper, ravager, and wraith are never brought up in game dialogue

Berserker possibly not

[livid mural]

that's annoying 😛

[tepid laurel]

Tentacle not really

[tepid laurel]

Yeah

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"Can you get in contact with Bastion? We have to warn them."
"Life forms approaching... numerous life forms."
"Hey, uh... something's moving down here!"
"These are what Hale wanted? What the hell is he planning to do..."
"Let's hope they aren't bulletproof."```

I found these, they could work

[tepid laurel]

I haven't listened to all the audio logs ... Might be something on those

Yeah that's from the WNA mission when we first meet them

[livid mural]

yeah

[tepid laurel]

https://www.redfactionwiki.com/wiki/Audio_Logs

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Twelve people dead. Ripped to pieces. I can still hear them. They came from...from nowhere and everywhere. The walls, the floors, the ceilings. Just kept coming, pouring from the shadows...How do you stop that? How do you kill a nightmare? ```

this sounds badass

[tepid laurel]

Tomorrow. Tomorrow all our dreams will be realized...and his nightmare begins. He has no idea what horrors lie ahead...Tomorrow, my children - we claim our destiny.

[tepid laurel]

Yeah I like that one

Older enemies has some great ones

[livid mural]

damn yeah it does wow

[tepid laurel]

Archivist logs at the end are good too

Man I really love RFA 😂

[livid mural]

it doesnt get enough credit for its lore

to be fair a lot of that is probably because it does an awful job of exploring its own lore

which was almost certainly because of how rushed it was

but they did some great writing

[tepid laurel]

It does feel pretty rushed tbh

[livid mural]

it 100% was

[tepid laurel]

But if they had time to cook...

It'd be epic

[livid mural]

You've heard of the whole RF: Crusade saga right?

[tepid laurel]

BUT I really really love cheesy alien action stuff and RFA is exactly that

[tepid laurel]

Vaguely?

[livid mural]

https://www.redfactionwiki.com/wiki/Red_Faction:_Crusade

There are distinct genetic similarities between these creatures and the Ultor Plague from 2075."
"Something has been... awakened. Something that's been here for a long time."
"We planned for the wrong war. And now... it's to late."
"They came from... nowhere and everywhere. How do you stop that? How do you kill a nightmare?"
"Something hit Omega station last night. I've never seen anything like it."
"How many people have died because of this secret? We're just as bad as Capek. Maybe worse."
"Capek discovered the... nightmares..."
"They spent months inside those tunnels... studying the dormant creatures... taking samples..."```

I should be able to split these up

only need 5 and thats 8

[tepid laurel]

Damn

[tepid laurel]

Love these

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Baby Reeper    "You have arrived at an excellent time, Parker. Feeding time!"
Reeper    "Welcome to my zoo, Parker. Feel free to pet the animals. They won't bite."
Rock Snake    "This is the feeding chute, Parker. Something is... hungry."
Alien Queen    "She's gonna tear this whole damn planet apart!"
Behemoth    "Something hit Omega station last night. I've never seen anything like it."
Berserker    "Something has been... awakened. Something that's been here for a long time."
Creeper    "There are distinct genetic similarities between these creatures and the Ultor Plague from 2075."
Ravager    "They spent months inside those tunnels... studying the dormant creatures... taking samples..."
Wraith    "They came from... nowhere and everywhere. How do you stop that? How do you kill a nightmare?"```

I think these work

so now I just need to find something usable for the Ultor Drone and we need to fabricate a quote for Ray Mason 😛

@fallen latch on Ray, it'd be best to have it something believable from your Ray Faction initiative I think

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so

[livid mural]

since there's literally 0 spoken text from Ray in the canon - or literally anything other than a timeframe and note about his affiliation lol

[fallen latch]

Well

this was effectively the "flow" of the idea

think you can get that?

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Oh wait right we were going to retcon the miner in the canyon to be ray right?

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we were

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I can probably just grab one of his voice lines then

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we figured it would give him a purpose with the main story

[livid mural]

yeah

its a good idea its just been a while and I forgot :p

[fallen latch]

nah you're good!

i didn't suggest L12S1 cuz tbh

its weak lines iirc

[livid mural]

13  "L12S1_MIN_01.wav"
En: "Are you Parker? Eos said that if she didn't come out, you would."
Gr: "(gr)Are you Parker? Eos said that if she didn't come out, you would."
Fr: "(fr)Are you Parker? Eos said that if she didn't come out, you would."

14  "L12S1_MIN_02.wav"
En: "She said to give you this computer disk. I dunno why."
Gr: "(gr)She said to give you this computer disk. I dunno why."
Fr: "(fr)She said to give you this computer disk. I dunno why."

15  "L12S1_MIN_03.wav"
En: "We need to go to the far end of the canyon."
Gr: "(gr)We need to go to the far end of the canyon."
Fr: "(fr)We need to go to the far end of the canyon."

16  "L12S1_MIN_04.wav"
En: "I'll drive. You hop in back and man the gun."
Gr: "(gr)I'll drive. You hop in back and man the gun."
Fr: "(fr)I'll drive. You hop in back and man the gun."

17  "L12S1_MIN_05.wav"
En: "It was rough getting here, and I don't expect it'll be any easier getting back."
Gr: "(gr)It was rough getting here, and I don't expect it'll be any easier getting back."
Fr: "(fr)It was rough getting here, and I don't expect it'll be any easier getting back."

18  "L12S1_MIN_06.wav"
En: "Keep them off us or we'll never make it through!"
Gr: "(gr)Keep them off us or we'll never make it through!"
Fr: "(fr)Keep them off us or we'll never make it through!"```

[fallen latch]

exactly :p

[livid mural]

It was rough getting here, and I don't expect it'll be any easier getting back.```
this one could probably work generically as just like... "this guy is fighting for the RF" without any context

[fallen latch]

it could

its a heck of a lot easer than trying to come up with a made up line

[livid mural]

Yeah

But hmmmm the drone

Will be difficult

Since I don't think it's even referenced in the game once

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this is the L3S4 drone?

[livid mural]

Yeah

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hm

[livid mural]

That's a good quote but i don't think it can be stretched to fit the drone :\

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fuck sake 😂

i told u id look for hugo

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OH

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bannasty got you the aliens so i went looking 😛

[livid mural]

hmmm

Yeah actually that would work

just thinking about it like

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its better than this imo

[livid mural]

I want these quotes to all make some sense without any context about where the quote was said and what was going on

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he is the RF leader

[livid mural]

yeah

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calling something cold blooded murder is vague enough

i think

[livid mural]

yeah I like that one

idk thta it's the best quote in the world but its the best so far

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• im running out of time with him 😛

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i thought there was a decent line in the cutscene but there isn't

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En: "Intruder in Docking Bay 4 maintenance facility. Security respond."```

this is the best I've got for the drone so far lol

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and he's mostly "mission exposition"

so thats the only thing i can really get

this for example wouldn't work but its still a good idea of how he feels

[livid mural]

yeah

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and yeah im at hammer of the gods

i think take the cold blooded murder line

[livid mural]

yeah let's do it

[fallen latch]

now the drone...

[livid mural]

"Intruder in Docking Bay 4 maintenance facility. Security respond."
is usable. Not the best but it might be the best we have

no one ever even refers to this drone in the game lol

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there is the signs ig

[livid mural]

true

but everything else is a quote from speech, it'd be a little weird to just quote the text of a sign

[fallen latch]

the aliens are loading screens 😛

[livid mural]

not the ones that were used

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u got lines?

[livid mural]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bjYdwLmbS-Z73rnq2hYtYxOADPi-neG9kAUEOySUByM
check it :p

bannasty had a great idea with the radio logs

[fallen latch]

theres radio logs in RFA?

oh right

so there is

my bad

[livid mural]

and capek lines for the reeper, baby reeper, rock snake

and a darius quote for the queen

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is there literally no other character we can use? 😛

[livid mural]

for what?

the drone?

[fallen latch]

yah

instead of

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hmmm

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Davies is ultor i guess 😂

[livid mural]

It'd have to be someone who attacks the RF, ideally a supporting character but not necessarily

from any game

Actually you know, Stoller is an option

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True

would give you 2 RF:O

[livid mural]

does he have a good quote anywhere lol

[fallen latch]

and it gives you a hero/villain from each media

luckily for you

he's in less scenes than jake

i can watch that

[livid mural]

😄

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side note his entry is actually pretty cool

"The great burden of leadership, is to always know the truth, no matter how badly you want to believe the lie"

[livid mural]

hm

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says he got it from hales father but

[livid mural]

thats pretty good lol

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i couldn't tell you which page its on on the script

but i can try and hunt it down

[livid mural]

yeah if you could

I'd want to quote it accurately

[fallen latch]

LMAO

found it

[livid mural]

and yeah the drone can go away in place of Stoller

[livid mural]

would mean more thematically too

Does he have a longer name

or is it just Stoller

[fallen latch]

Stoller is the only name i got

i did my best to reference full names where possible

Stoller is all i got for him

[livid mural]

"The greatest burden of leadership is to always know the truth, no matter how badly you want to believe the lie."
Hm, this is very long

[fallen latch]

😭

[livid mural]

"The great burden of leadership is to know the truth, no matter how badly you want to believe the lie."

could cut it a bit

without changing the meaning

[fallen latch]

you havn't paraphrased before? 😮

[livid mural]

I have a few times, try to avoid it but yeah

[fallen latch]

i do like that in RF:O they really needed to charge the rail gun

meanwhile the mercs just fucking unloaded

[livid mural]

yeah this works

(no art yet)

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damn it does just barely fit

[livid mural]

7.2pt font for the quote, vs the others are 8pt :p

you can barely tell but it does make it fit

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my struggle with this stuff too

😂

[livid mural]

see, it is slightly smaller

but barely noticable

[fallen latch]

my font sizes are between 28-31 Tahoma

[livid mural]

https://www.1001fonts.com/nihonium113-font.html
this is the pixelated font im using

[fallen latch]

Ah

I didn't wanna use the text era's been using for the thumbnails for the descriptions because its quite chunky

but i do like it for the headers

[livid mural]

i dont much like that font personally but it is pretty RF themed 😛

[fallen latch]

Its

the closest he found

without having to manually cut the fucking letters every time

[livid mural]

oh? uhh

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its called "dodger"

its what i used here

it has that uh

"cut" in the letters in various points

which makes it feel on brand

[livid mural]

Microstyle Bold Extended ATT Regular is the RF font I believe

https://fontsgeek.com/fonts/Microstyle-Bold-Extended-ATT-Regular

[fallen latch]

I mean

is that for the ingame text?

[livid mural]

i didnt realize anyone was looking for it :p

[fallen latch]

Well i asked him to find a font that felt like it would fit RF's themeing

[livid mural]

it's what's used for the logo, or VERY close to it anyway

[fallen latch]

and he found that

i actually really like the font

its not useful for regular text (which is why i just went with Tahoma for that)

but for headers/titles i think its pretty good

[livid mural]

yeah its absolutely a title font

[fallen latch]

jesus is reference that low

😂

she needs way more yellow

[livid mural]

i think I like this one

[fallen latch]

much better i think

gives more of her shade

[livid mural]

alright this one is way better

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oh yeah

really brings out the colour

100%

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ok thats a solid redraw

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no way to clone out the eyepatch line?

[livid mural]

oh shit i didnt even realize its missing the line lol

oh wait there's no line at all wtfd

[fallen latch]

thats what i mean

idk HOW OR WHY they thought no eye patch lines was the way to go

but yeah

😂

[livid mural]

fixed

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part of me genuinley wonders if it had lines and they just keyed them out in every shot or if they prosthetic-glued it to his head 😂

[fallen latch]

hell yeah

[livid mural]

ive never really known what mallus is supposed to be, but this is close to the game's representation of him anyway

[fallen latch]

yeah idk

the best i can make out is they wanted a cool "mini boss"

becaue thers no way thats piloting fucking any plane

[livid mural]

i think it might be a suit of some type

[fallen latch]

are we saying thats not his skin underneath it

its very skinlike

xD

i bumped its contrast way up in my top trumps shot

but ye

[waxen pelican]

Mallus.. full of malice.

[fallen latch]

good enough for Halvar

😂

[livid mural]

bit more vibrance

[fallen latch]

fair

for roth i think you could actually mute that one aswell

i only say that cuz i did it for mine as the reference was extremely bright

[livid mural]

good call

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i think that fits the RF:G style better

[livid mural]

yeah

[fallen latch]

what i did for Roth

vs his ref

[livid mural]

yeah his source shot is super overbright

[fallen latch]

yah

[livid mural]

and orange

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XD

did i miss Broga?

[livid mural]

not yet

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ah ok

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honestly not bad considering the ref is black and white

[livid mural]

the bright light looked ugly

[fallen latch]

fair XD

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fuck yeah

[livid mural]

hahahahahahahahahahaha

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JESUS CHRIST

😂

[livid mural]

i mean that is ray's face from the comic lmao

[fallen latch]

hahahahahah

[fallen latch]

i meant ain't wrong

XD

also im just now realising the comics were exceptionally kind to parkers face

[livid mural]

wow this is perfect

[fallen latch]

Run with it

full send

fuck it we ball

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hm

her face is a big more pixelated than others i think?

maybe thats being picky

[livid mural]

not really, she's just smaller in the frame

[fallen latch]

fair enough

but like even against jenkins ig idk

[livid mural]

there's definitely some variance in art style

[fallen latch]

no i know

but capek is theoretically smaller and he got good vibes

😂

[livid mural]

purple

[fallen latch]

NO

NOT AN INSTANCE OF THAT

[livid mural]

:p

[fallen latch]

although in fairness

this is goofy as fuck

😂

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oh i really like the gryphon one

Hendrix is making me feel weird XD

[livid mural]

gryphon reminds me of a character from STRIFE

[fallen latch]

idk what that is :p

[livid mural]

this guy lol

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😂

[livid mural]

not the right art style but thought it was neat lol

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lmfao orion

[livid mural]

he looks like a dwarf

[fallen latch]

his face is like

you know those bad CGI shots in films

like a motorbike helmet

[livid mural]

yeah lol

[fallen latch]

where the face is just imposed

on it

😂

[livid mural]

Orion's seen some shit

I don't hate this one... not my favourite but I don't hate it

[fallen latch]

god thats interesting

😂

[livid mural]

lmao, batting high this morning

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WHY IS HE GETTING CREEPIER

[fallen latch]

this is giving

"I want to design a retro PS1 horror game"

[livid mural]

he's staring at the camera, he's making me uncomfortable

[livid mural]

YES its exactly that style

[fallen latch]

AND THIS DIDN'T?

HE'S SLANTED

[livid mural]

i mean thats way more accurate lol

[fallen latch]

😛

[fallen latch]

honestly its giving me the mike game

unsorted horror

[livid mural]

yeah agreed

Tbh I spent a long time really not liking the PSX look, and thinking it was the pixelation... but I'm realizing its the camera effects that I actually hate not the pixel art style

aside from how creepy his face looks I really like this style. Like the environment in this Orion shot looks great

[fallen latch]

yeah they do a lot of post-processing to "pixelify" the scene

[livid mural]

yeah I hate that shit

[fallen latch]

Aegon did it with a door in the basement

and i wasn't a fan

[livid mural]

give me a crystal clear camera but pixelated textures

[fallen latch]

yah

cuz on Playstation

there wasn't camera effects

it was just naturally pixely

because thats what it was

[livid mural]

I think a lot of those issues come in when designers try too hard to make something feel creepy

[fallen latch]

yah

[livid mural]

or try to artifically create an uncanny valley

[fallen latch]

100%

[livid mural]

this is WAY better

[fallen latch]

they only full send that stuff in the horror stuff

in non-horror "retro" design

[livid mural]

yeah

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its completely absent in my experience

[fallen latch]

ok i love the muzzle flash

and no bullet

but yeah its the best orion shot so far

[fallen latch]

jesus christ parker

[livid mural]

he reminds me of the lead character from XIII lol

[fallen latch]

Mr Rowland, I'll tell you what I can on the way, but more guards are going to show up soon

or wait

his real name

Keep pushing the button fly, perhaps it will suddenly work

that part always gets me and idk why

"FLY, HIS NAME WAS JASON FLY"

[livid mural]

37/50 👀

still need to do the nano enhancement text lol

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[livid mural]

man im really happy with alec lol

[fallen latch]

wait you dropped the fist slam?

wait no

that was an action

[livid mural]

thats not him

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nvm

[livid mural]

thats an action

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yahyah

[livid mural]

and idk if it will be that action

i like that shot though so will probably use it for some action

but welcome to Mars idk if it fits

[fallen latch]

is it a weird artifact or does it look like he's smoking XD

[livid mural]

this was just to do the template

[livid mural]

thats a headset

[fallen latch]

ah XD

tbh

Voice of Mars probably fits

its Alec and Sam

Warning shot could be an angle of Alec firing the Nano Rifle

this one