Panther at it again 
#avatar-ideas
mortal geyser
dull iron
timber mural
ember charm
The eyes might be too detailed and you might wanna seperate the front and behind layers of the hair by making the behind hair a bit darker
dull iron
@thick wyvern nice idea, but her eyes look a bit paralyzed, try lashes like in game, its very pretty though! I think the hai shading could be darker as well
thick wyvern
Thanks guys, I am thinking about the lashes since the are meant to be like the 60s eye makeup, where they draw the eyelashes on. I am not an artist and I am very bad at making eyes but I will look into the pupils :) it was also my first time shading hair so I will make it a bit darker
dull iron
oh okay ^^ Its very nice tho! keep going
thick wyvern
thick wyvern
This is the eye inspo
also one thing, make the eyes a whiter color
@dull iron okay thanksss
mortal geyser
@thick wyvern perhaps remove the outlines on the shirt pattern and add some shading to it?
thick wyvern
I will be shading the shirt, the outlines are actually meant to be part of the pattern but I will look into it, thank you :)
molten prairie
What type of brush does anyone reccomend for drawing in ibis paint?
dull iron
@molten prairie dip brush hard
or dip pen hard, idk the name lol, its like the 2nd brush
dull iron
np ^^
slow sequoia
@quick harbor
quick harbor
I wasn't supposed to open dis, that is why I did it
sinful roost
@dull iron i use 311x406....oh nooo..๐ฅฒ
timber mural
smol
timber mural
still, the fact that you managed to do that on such a small canvas is interesting
digital vortex
How you like this as a clan quest?๐ฅฐ
I did something like that first time so Iโm sorry if I did anything wrong๐ฅบ
timber mural
there are gradients; you shouldn't use them
digital vortex
What do you mean?
sinful roost
I forgot to watch
timber mural
you used it for hair; basically some sort of direct blending or "light"
digital vortex
Ah you mean the hair
timber mural
check pinned for information on gradients
digital vortex
Ok I will thanks for feedback
timber mural
i think the shirt item also has gradients, so not only the hair ^^
the eyes seem to be placed a bit too high and too far from eachother, you should get them somewhat closer and lower
digital vortex
No I only used one Color on the shirt
timber mural
also, for the eyes, the pupils are mirrored they shouldn't be, they don't really look natural
No I only used one Color on the shirt
@digital vortex it's not about the color, it's about how it blends (and ends)
the mid image is about gradients <.<
timber mural
it's a pretty nice start though; i guess it's just harder to learn about the wwo requirement thingies
alrighty ^^
digital vortex
Yea and thanks ๐
dull iron
@digital vortex what canvas size are u using? Im just asking since its on 3.0 brush size
and thats smol
digital vortex
I fixed a few hair problems normally I use brushes
dull iron
o
wispy blade
@mild hawk i know its probs on purpise that the bangs are really high. But your drawing makes the hairline also look unnaturally high o.o
digital vortex
*bigger brushes lol
digital vortex
๐
wispy blade
@mild hawk
keep eyes in middle or lower cuz higher eyes look ugly > lower hairline
Just saying cuz ur hair loors soooo coool
thats why i want you to make a cute avatar that also fits ig ๐๐
first hair design is awesome btw
love it
digital vortex
@timber mural how you like that?
wispy blade
looks like gradiants to me ~
digital vortex
But itโs the same Color all the time๐คง๐
digital vortex
Oh ok but how can I fix this problem?
wispy blade
But as far as i know the first brush that is set on my programm never has a gradiant ๐
wispy blade
@wispy blade ibisPaint X
@digital vortex its on phone i guess? I have a tabler so idk sorry ๐
digital vortex
Thanks for feedback
@digital vortex its on phone i guess? I have a tabler so idk sorry ๐
@wispy blade yes I am using my IPhone
timber mural
if no one answers in the meantime i'll go find the brush thingy
timber mural
still looks like gradient because of possible small canvas but yeah, seems better; yet - have you searched for references? they usually provide great help
digital vortex
No I havenโt but is it because the size of the lines are different?
timber mural
in case you are talking about the gradient, no, i don't think it's related to the line size
timber mural
not that either ๐
digital vortex
What do you mean then๐
timber mural
it is either related to the brush you use or to the canvas size; in the case of the 2nd thing, you should either re-do the design on a larger canvas or make it larger (export it and then import to a different canvas); in the case of the first, change your brush by tapping on the brush icon in the tool bar
i think that dip pen (hard) is the brush you should use
rancid shore
~~bezier curve tool is the best 
~~
timber mural
digital vortex
I used it for the shirt๐
digital vortex
then im not sure what caused it, i don't work with ibis
either
@timber mural oh ok but thanks anyway!
sharp notch
you can send it to any available mini-mod 
aka you can dm me if you want to
zinc cove
Ooh okay 
dull iron
If you are on a small canvas it will make gradients, as well as if you erase with a wrong eraser
digital vortex
What do you mean
dull iron
the brush
digital vortex
Still the hair?
dull iron
i mean that if you use a small canvas size it will force itself to make gradients, and if you use a certain eraser then it will make gradients
No on the right side of the shirt it's like fading
timber mural
the eyes seem better, nice.
you could use some references for the shirt to make it better; that and shading are my objections on it.
the hair "bun" (?) seems a bit too big as well, maybe try making it smaller? also, the "front" bangs could be repositioned a bit, they seem to go way too much inwards <.<
also, shading
digital vortex
dull iron
the blush on her face is gradient-
mortal geyser
@digital vortex you gotta draw everything yourself and not use any shape/texture brushes that ibis gives you
digital vortex
@digital vortex you gotta draw everything yourself and not use any shape/texture brushes that ibis gives you
@mortal geyser ok I will delete the butterflyโs
mortal geyser
Blurring and air brushes are not allowed
@digital vortex not only, the strands holding uo the shirt and the purple lines on the hair are made using texture brushes
digital vortex
But arenโt there some that look like it in game?
mortal geyser
Could you perhaps give out an example?
digital vortex
the eyes seem better, nice.
you could use some references for the shirt to make it better; that and shading are my objections on it.
the hair "bun" (?) seems a bit too big as well, maybe try making it smaller? also, the "front" bangs could be repositioned a bit, they seem to go way too much inwards <.<
@timber mural what do you mean with inwards? And I will make it smaller
Not real ones, at least
@mortal geyser yea saw it๐
dull iron
Im just saying the blush on ur avatar "fades" if yk what i mean, that one is solid, even though its transparent
mortal geyser
By inwards, __b meant that the strands cover the face a tad too much and not naturally
timber mural
the "front" bangs have a pretty weird position <.< yes, what solly said
digital vortex
Yea ok so maybe I will erase some of them?
The big one in front of her face or the smaller ones?
faint solar
The hair I made and the look I was going for, how do I fix it aaa
dull iron
@faint solar Idk about the hair, but the yellow eye looks a bit unnatural, maybe make it more of a yellow white mixture?
I like the eye shadow idea
next talon
the hair in the pic is curled and that isnโt really visible yet in the drawing
digital vortex
I erased the stands on one side -> does it look better now? @mortal geyser
dull iron
who pinged me?
true relic
Ohh
I have a retro skin actualy
But I didn't even realize I can submit for BP
lol
slow sequoia
Lol
faint solar
It'd kinda supposed to look unnatural ๐
It's a rubik's cube based design, so that's where the colour ate from
digital vortex
@timber mural you on?๐
quick harbor
Do you guys think this looks retro so far?
timber mural
@timber mural you on?๐
@digital vortex could you please not ping me every time you post the modified design? ๐
and yes, it looks better that way
dull iron
also I'm Shota can u invt to gummie gang
Sure, lemme in dms
@quick harbor Im not familiar with retro style, but it looks amazing
quick harbor
Thank youuuu ๐
faint solar
I still don't really know what to do with the hair, but โจ e a r r i n g s โจ
dull iron
o, I love the earrings
faint solar
Are the eyes a recoloured version of the default eyes?
loud spade
Yes
faint solar
Idk if that's allowed
faint solar
Yeah yeah, I'm just pointing it out
dull iron
@loud spade Nice idea, I think you should draw your own eyes though C: The flower on the shirt is outlined which isn't allowed. The shirt could use shading, you can barely see it. The lines on the hat are messy and choppy
loud spade
Thx for the feedback
merry vault
fb mabye?๐ฅบ
loud spade
I know what to change now
faint solar
The sheep onnes <3<3<3
mortal geyser
The hair highlights on the second one look like random squiggly lines but the overall designs are looking cute 
digital vortex
I changed something and made an front item (it should be wool๐)
viscid flax
I started a design but it says Im not allowed to attach files
dense kelpBOT
still osprey
Just chat around a bit, you have to be level 1. ^^ @viscid flax
viscid flax
Ok
quick harbor
Silly question, but what program you guys usually pick to design models? I tend to go with PhotoShop, but I'm not sure if it'd be a good pick, especially due to the shading and all.
still osprey
I use Ibis Paint X! :D
But photoshop isn't a real drawing app, right? We have to draw everything by ourselves. ^^"
quick harbor
(Also, I couldn't find the base model ;( If anyone has it)
I use Ibis Paint X! :D
But photoshop isn't a real drawing app, right? We have to draw everything by ourselves. ^^"
@still osprey Yeah, but I tend to draw there most of the time lolol
still osprey
(Also, I couldn't find the base model ;( If anyone has it)
@quick harbor Take a look at the pinned messages. ๐
timber mural
I changed something and made an front item (it should be wool๐)
yeah, except you draw it in a different way-
still osprey
@still osprey Yeah, but I tend to draw there most of the time lolol
@quick harbor Does it have layers and stuff? Sorry, I never used it before. ^^"
digital vortex
yeah, except you draw it in a different way-
@timber mural what do you mean? It doesnโt look like wool?
timber mural
not at all-
digital vortex
Hope it looks better now haha
timber mural
idk how to explain
digital vortex
๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐
๐ ๐โฏ๐ถ๐โฏ
timber mural
but it shouldn't be just a line that goes around in circles
digital vortex
Hahahaha
timber mural
lemme see if i can find a ref
digital vortex
Yes please
But I am bad at drawing so I won't get it the way you send me the ref๐
timber mural
can't find one rn but that type of fg should rather be a sphere with thick strings going around it in a somewhat "covering" way
my cat had a toy that could've been a good ref but idk where it is lmao
timber mural
wdym?
digital vortex
It took long
timber mural
to... what?
timber mural
it shouldn't take too long if you know what to do and how to do it tbh
digital vortex
So it will took me years๐
still osprey
I changed something and made an front item (it should be wool๐)
@digital vortex May I give some feedback? c:
The shirt looks a bit flat. Maybe you could try to add shades, this should help.
Same with the hair, it really needs some shading and I'm not quite sure about the lilac thingy in her hair, what is it supposed to be? For me, it kinda looks like random lines. The extra strands seem kinda random too.
The eyes look different, did u use mirror tool on them? I'm also not sure about the light, the picture is a bit blurred, but I got the feeling it has gradient/is blurred.
And maybe u could add some shading/details to the lips. ^^
timber mural
i pointed out shadings twice lmao
still osprey
They are necessary. xd
timber mural
shading isn't done by blur
still osprey
And I associate shadings with blur
@digital vortex Blur and gradients are illegal
timber mural
but rather adding a 2nd color to some parts of an item
still osprey
digital vortex
Anyway thank you for the detail feedback and the purple lines in the hair should replace a hair tie๐
still osprey
Maybe make it more... one piece? It looks a bit random.
digital vortex
but rather adding a 2nd color to some parts of an item
@timber mural ah thatโs meant with shading
I thought it was kinda like shadow๐๐
Maybe make it more... one piece? It looks a bit random.
@still osprey like the lines are collected to each other?
timber mural
a darker color is a "shadow" ๐
digital vortex
Yea and they canโt flow together?
still osprey
@still osprey like the lines are collected to each other?
@digital vortex Less lines, more shapes and forms.
I'm stunned by my ratio in #dev-vote right now
digital vortex
Shapes are difficult๐
What do you mean with forms?
Whatโs yours?
Ah I saw it
still osprey
Shapes are difficult๐
What do you mean with forms?
@digital vortexI just used a german word and forgot that it maybe has a different meaning in english xd
More like it's one piece, a hair tie mostly doesn't works like this. ^^"
faint solar
I'm literally obsessed with mushrooms, so ofc I'm upvoting your design
digital vortex
(Omg ich bin deutsch schreib so viele deutsche Wรถrter wie erlaubt sind) I am german as well so write as much as words that are allowed
still osprey
(Omg ich bin deutsch schreib so viele deutsche Wรถrter wie erlaubt sind) I am german as well so write as much as words that are allowed
@digital vortex I could explain it to u in german in private messages, if u want.
digital vortex
Haha cool
@digital vortex I could explain it to u in german in private messages, if u want.
@still osprey yes please
still osprey
Heya!
pliant helm
Hello
dull iron
Sup
quick harbor
@quick harbor Does it have layers and stuff? Sorry, I never used it before. ^^"
@still osprey Yeeeep. I'm just not so good at using pen(cil)s, so programs with good mouse usage are my go-to
dull iron
@quick harbor if you need the base its in the pinned messages
pliant helm
It's ok ? ๐ณ
twilit pike
@pliant helm
@pliant helm
edgy schooner
Bruhhh
pliant olive
๐คฉ
edgy schooner
The SHIRTTT OMGG
๐
I feel like my art is trash now ๐
I'd definitely buy that
dull iron
Same
buoyant mantle
would anyone like any feeeback? ping me if you do๐๐
buoyant mantle
@edgy schooner hey! Im going to keep this short, I really like this skin๐ณ The colors compliment each other beautifully, and all of the items fit with the theme of it! I have a few small change-ideas, but it honestly looks gorgeous. I would erase the faint black circles around the eyes because in my opinion they aren't super needed. I would also make the shadows on the bows on top of the hat more large, so it sticks out more! Once again, incredible job on it, it looks great!
edgy schooner
Thank you so much ๐
hexed cloud
could i make single items? etc gravestones that dont fit an outfit, shirts that you can buy with gold, mouths that you can buy with roses, et cetra.
sorry for dumb question i assume its been asked before
dull iron
@hexed cloud yes you can! There's info on this in the pinned messages actually, you have to dm Philip with single items though
buoyant mantle
@edgy schooner yes! Sorry, I didn't make that super clear XD
edgy schooner
It's ok ๐
hexed cloud
@hexed cloud yes you can! There's info on this in the pinned messages actually, you have to dm Philip with single items though
@dull iron okay, i will read the pinned message, thx
dull iron
Np :D
hot copper
@upbeat knot
Heyya its a really cute idea ^^ however, you need to use the avatar template in the pinned messages ^^
multiple things are outlined and outlines aren't allowed. Also add some wrinkles n shading to the shirt. Same with the hair, it needs a bit more shading
dull iron
Mhm ^^
bronze talon
Can u upload progress photos?
quick harbor
Hi, I'm new here, I'm trying to make a skin for Battle Pass and I wanted feedback ^^
bronze talon
Cute!!
Eyebrows?
@quick harbor I would make eyes lower add eyebrows shorten wings and add one or two more lashes
And maybe make lips a little larger
quick harbor
@quick harbor I would make eyes lower add eyebrows shorten wings and add one or two more lashes
@bronze talon It's still in progress lol, but I'll do the hair first. Thanks!
And maybe make lips a little larger
Okay
quick harbor
I think if you made the corner of eye a little more rounded, it would be better :^ I loved the iris
@bronze talon
pseudo nymph
It's ok ? ๐ณ
@pliant helm add some shading (and shadow) to the snow in the background, the front items (Santa clause and reindeers) and some parts of the shirts, Im sure uโll see how better they become, now theyโre so pretty already!
pliant helm
๐ง hmmmmm
edgy schooner
Ouuhhhh
I love it ๐
But the hair strands is too many imo..
The eyes are so beautiful
pine junco
why in my head, the eyes have a gradient-
faint solar
I think they do
tulip siren
I just realized the black shade thing is a phone
fickle perch
I think it is because the eyes, they are a colored version of the eyes you have first in the game, maybe make your own eye design?
loud spade
I think it is because the eyes, they are a colored version of the eyes you have first in the game, maybe make your own eye design?
@fickle perch this is my own eye design
but you could change the hair and the mouth
@pine junco i think i should change the mouth๐
pliant helm
I can't draw the background ๐คง
loud spade
You can make a castle as background
blissful grotto
Epic. I love it โค๏ธ
real oxide
@loud spade may I ask what your theme is?
mortal geyser
@pliant helm is that a sketch or the official version of those items
pliant helm
@pliant helm is that a sketch or the official version of those items
@mortal geyser official
pine junco
Read pinned message
quick harbor
ฤฑ cant find:(
dense kelpBOT
quick harbor
found messages pinned but could not find the app
timber mural
._.
quick harbor
omg ty
loud spade
@loud spade may I ask what your theme is?
@real oxide i dont really have a theme๐
pine junco
Glasses
upbeat knot
@upbeat knot
Heyya its a really cute idea ^^ however, you need to use the avatar template in the pinned messages ^^
multiple things are outlined and outlines aren't allowed. Also add some wrinkles n shading to the shirt. Same with the hair, it needs a bit more shading
@hot copper
oh thank you so much for the tips :)
mortal geyser
@mortal geyser official
@pliant helm
Gradients are not allowed and the darker lines on the hair are too messy, doesn't look much like shading
The shirt is also a bit messy because of the lines
mortal geyser
You can't recolour the eyes, you gotta draw them by yourself
loud spade
I didnt recolor
timber mural
๐
sour apex
glasses on hair
pine junco
Oh okay
sour apex
Keep it up :3
pine junco
Aight
The glass is lighter than before because the glass colour is almost same like the hair's colour
now I need the idea for the shirt-
the theme is Invented-Inverted
sour apex
Sr i have no idea 
pine junco
Oof ;w;
pine junco
the thing like the glass is broken but actually not. Its just a painting that the glass is almost broke or smth like that
timber mural
hmm
sour apex
use eraser tool, erase some lines on the glass, it will look more like a crack
timber mural
depending on how many cracks there are, the glasses might look weird as they can deny physics
sour apex
I think the hair needs something more, shade? :v
sour apex
Show me it without glasses, I'll help you
mild hawk
@wispy blade , @dull iron thx for the feedback, you two have suggestions to the hair be more acceptable? :3
idk what made on the fringes ^^"
Here we are
@pine junco
Lets starting! XD
I like the way that you Make the style of hair, these spikes ser amazing. Is ready?
pine junco
i'm still waiting for HuyPu to help me how to put more shade to the hair
mild hawk
@mild hawk i know its probs on purpise that the bangs are really high. But your drawing makes the hairline also look unnaturally high o.o
@wispy blade Sorry, wdym? Im very slow TuT
Guys how tou all make good designs? TOT
sour apex
pine junco
MMMM
sour apex
AND DANISH ARE A FULL POWER TRANSLATOR
yah, he's interested in design
mild hawk
Woh
I was thinking that Danish was a woman ๐
I wanna be a designer too and I will fight for it >:T
sour apex
Gl ๐ 
sour apex
Heyy, hii @mortal geyser 
mortal geyser
Heyoo @sour apex uWu
cold breach
Any feedback/advices on how to do the light on the hair ? ๐ฅบ
bronze talon
Its hard to shade pitch black
So maybe lift the color to a slightly lighter one
And then use blade to shade shadows
timber mural
you never use pitch black ๐ as dylan said, use a dark tone of gray so you can still shade
bronze talon
Also, the general shape is fine put maybe make the cowlick a little sharper, or just get rid of it. LOVE THE ROUND FEEL TO IT THO. Such a retro and cute idea! ๐ธ
@cold breach
cold breach
Just turned the hair lighter, gonna make an update later, thank you !
dull iron
@mild hawk np ^^ I just agree woth Dylene, make the bangs a bit lower, and the strands next to thicker and sorta connecting
chilly hemlock
Feedback pls๐ฅบ
near knoll
The eyes are scaring me... and the shaved off hair and bow could use some shading.
(Maybe add some highlights to everything?)
wild palm
I like the eyes, I find the shading to be fine, most werewolf online avatars aren't that detailed, this one is pretty detailed for the most part. It's subtle but not to subtle, I like it a lot.
near knoll
I don't really think that what Mixy said is quite right... Most of them are REALLY detailed with huge back- and foregrounds... This is a little bit like the "older" style, I think
Not in a bad way, I like the older avatars
dull iron
@chilly hemlock yo, looks epik but the chain is tooo smol make it thicker so u can see it in game, looks cool but I think the girl's tail could use more shading and more highlights, looks really nice tho ^^ I love the girls hair
Make the eyes sharper from the bottom, pretty cool
chilly hemlock
Yep Ik it's not that supersuper detailed as the newest avatars, I don't have that much energy
dull iron
Rip
chilly hemlock
Thanks for the feedback guys I'll work on it
dull iron
^^
dull iron
@loud spade nice, but the lines for the seeds should all be around the same length imo, and the avatar could use more shading
chilly hemlock
Can someone give advice how could I shade nice the hair of the girl?
zinc cove
Oh wait
bronze talon
@dull iron I think itโs a bow and arrow
dull iron
@zinc cove yee, looks beautiful ^^ But if you look on the left side theres a random dot, and on upper right there's a choppy line for the hair
timber mural
dull iron
I just re-read my message, why can't i type
mortal geyser
Mood
still osprey
Why canโt I write
timber mural
it happens
dull iron
@thick wyvern ik you said painted lashes are a style, but maybe you could use thick lashes, and then after add the painted lashes to see how it looks?
Also make the shading of the earrings a shape, not a line
thick wyvern
Do you mean the top or bottom lashes?
Thanks for the feedback btw, really helped me last time
gentle lily
The highlights in the eyes aren't really recommending thing to do ๐
sturdy jewel
thick wyvern
I am terrible at them and mirrored them on accident, I fixed it though
gentle lily
ahh alright
cold breach
Any feedbacks or advices about the hair and the eyes shape ?
lost plank
Eyes looks small :x
dull iron
@cold breach the eyes are far too small, make the top eye lashes thicker
Hair is nice
But the left side has very unnatural strands
The random strands of hair are too thin
Ver cool tho
cold breach
Okay thank you guys for the advices !
dull iron
Np ^^
bronze talon
@cold breach Iโm gosh so pretty looks like Mulan! Beautiful ๐^^
slow sequoia
pine junco
dull iron
O
mortal geyser
@pine junco could you try lowering the eyes just a bit?
bronze talon
Iโm making a gingerbread girl for christmas
I was thinking these eyes
Any critiques?
pine junco
@pine junco could you try lowering the eyes just a bit?
Hmm okay
mortal geyser
@bronze talon the iris' are outlined
bronze talon
@mortal geyser they are?
dull iron
Mhm
dull iron
Black isn't an outline, its one soldi color that goes around something outlining it
Could you move the pupils closer to the center? Looks pretty
bronze talon
I tried to shade the iris should I lift the brown color?
dull iron
Also, I think the 1st one looked better :)
@bronze talon No don't change anything, its good, just get rid of the outline then its nice
dull iron
Hmm, lemme draw an example real quick
bronze talon
Ok
tulip siren
Feedback please 
bronze talon
Obv shading but thatโs it
bronze talon
Yeah ik itโll look great! ๐^^
dull iron
Yee looks amazing
@bronze talon i hope this makes sense. its doesnt have to be black to be outlined, it can we outlined with another color as well
bronze talon
Oh ok
dull iron
Mhm
tulip siren
Yee looks amazing
@dull iron is this mine or his
dull iron
Yours ^^
tulip siren
yay thanks
bronze talon
@dull iron
That count?
Also wdym by center Iโm trying to add an Asian background if that means anything
tulip siren
Also wdym by center Iโm trying to add an Asian background if that means anything
@bronze talon what does an asian background mean
tulip siren
me realizing if i should glasses or a mask or nothing in the face
bronze talon
mortal geyser
@tulip siren the jacket is making the body look strange
tulip siren
how can i fix it solly
mortal geyser
Give the white shirt arm shading
mortal geyser
Maybe, maybe not?
tulip siren
looks at her animated pfp
dull iron
Uh, you just squished it down, I meant closer to where the nose is
bronze talon
tulip siren
i think its too close
mortal geyser
looks at her animated pfp
Pshhh- I don't know what you're talking about
Hm, there's something about the eye placement that is just teeny tiny bit off
bronze talon
Imma go further
tulip siren
fine
oak garnet
Heya everyone, where I can find the templates? I couldn't find one without black background...๐
tulip siren
checked in pin messages
bronze talon
oak garnet
Tysm๐
bronze talon
Like that
tulip siren
is it me or the eyebrows looks different to each other
mortal geyser
@bronze talon duplicate the whole item and mirror it
dull iron
O
mortal geyser
Oh nvm
dull iron
Ye like that Dylan, looks nice
tulip siren
solly lets say i have a mafia theme what will you put on the face?
mortal geyser
I still think the brown eye is a few pixels further from the centre than the pink one-
dull iron
Hmmmmmmmm
mortal geyser
@tulip siren bandages, scars, idk
mortal geyser
@bronze talon I tried to check myself-
tulip siren
y it look blurry
mortal geyser
The eyes are 4 pixels off-
@tulip siren discord lowers image resolution and I duplicated the whole image and mirrored it to check if the eyes were centred
dull iron
4 pixels
mortal geyser
It sounds extremely silly and not important but, to me, not centred stuff is easy to notice even if it's by just a few pixels
And by easy, I mean that some can tell something is off
pseudo nymph
lol anything else
@bronze talon usually eye tail/outer eye corner is longer than inner eye corner. If we still want to keep the inner eye corner that pointy, while get rid of the unnaturally longer corner look, I suggest elevate the upper eye lids of the inner eye corners a bit. then lengthen the lower outer eye corners, or add eye tails for them
bronze talon
Okay can u rephrase that to a Korean fit eye
๐๐
Lol imma restart
Its so bad
pseudo nymph
Its so bad
@bronze talon I meant kinda like this. sorry for the wording
but this eye would be small compared to the original eyes u made, so if u go for this new eye shape, make them bigger size
pine junco
I lowered the glass and the eyes a lil
pseudo nymph
Theyโre at perfect position now Danish 
eye line is a bit above ears which is perfect. eye line is the line drawn between 2 outer eye corners of the 2 eyes
pine junco
dull iron
pseudo nymph
that ratio for adult face^
pine junco
O okay
pseudo nymph
kiddo face: eye line is same plane with ears, or below ear line
pseudo nymph
oops, I think I forgot who I was talking to... its Danish and he draws characters so good 
quick harbor
Need collab thing or whatever
pine junco
Thank you!
pseudo nymph
hello Panther too 
pine junco
time to make an epic shirt
dull iron
Hi Hibie
pine junco
I. Don't. Like-
pine junco
also I need FG item's idea
blissful grotto
Fireball I think
pine junco
pine junco
well, I couldn't think of any detail to put on the shirt so I just add the fake cracks
kek 
timber mural
if it's cloth-like material then you shouldn't add cracks
timber mural
it's pretty hard imo
bronze talon
Maybe make a cracker fire background
pine junco
fur clothes is hard imo
if it's cloth-like material then you shouldn't add cracks
@timber mural any suggestion to add details on the shirt?
timber mural
dunno, i think the detail could go in either shading or making some sort of folds
pine junco
still osprey
Heya. 
sturdy jewel
A "Fire" Tower idk
@pine junco i think you should add other colors
pine junco
chilly hemlock
I corrected the shading on the items, feedback?
fickle perch
I really like it! Maybe make the girl some earring to?
fickle perch
@pine junco maybe make the shirt out of feathers like a firebird or something?
Ah
Maybe make like little bones for earrings for the girl @chilly hemlock
pine junco
mortal geyser
I pinged you on that message because the shading you made for the girl's shirt gives the same feeling as the first drawing on the image, remember that no matter how tight a shirt is, it'll never fully hug the chest like that
chilly hemlock
The eye must have that shape?
mortal geyser
It's not that they have to, they'd just look more natural
chilly hemlock
Hmm
hazy falcon
skethed this pretty fast
It is just an idea to make it look more natural, as solly said
mortal geyser
"Sketched" beautifully 
timber mural
hyde is speed
hazy falcon
then you lower the hairline and boom
it would be a low hairline or a bit higher but yours is too high and makes the head really big
like that
chilly hemlock
Wooow thank you
quick harbor
hey yโall might know me from the fanart channel, i know nothing about designing avatars but it would be fun to try
mortal geyser
Heyo!
I'm glad you wanted to try out designing ^^
Everything you need is in the pinned messages and if you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask in here
timber mural
you need app, template, no outlines and no gradient
mortal geyser
There's more to the style guide than that, b
xd
quick harbor
i assume multiply filter isnโt allowed
timber mural
ok, not many details
quick harbor
since i havenโt seen anyone use it
timber mural
what's a multiply filter
quick harbor
itโs uhhh colored shadow
also i assume iโd also need to have a symmetric ruler for some things
timber mural
symmetry tools and file duping 
timber mural
i mean, medibang doesn't have symmetry tools so you need to dupe files
mortal geyser
i assume multiply filter isnโt allowed
@quick harbor it is as long as you don't blend stuff or use an airbrush
quick harbor
alright
iโm sorry procreate preferring you for technical things was never an option
mortal geyser
The svg file is needed only when your design gets accepted in game, you can ask someone to trace the design for you in vectors, trace it yourself or directly use a vector program
mortal geyser
If you don't have the svg verison ready, basically yes 
quick harbor
oh god
mortal geyser
Tbh if you can trace the drawing yourself then I don't see the point in not directly starting to draw in the vector program xd
quick harbor
is it really just not allowed to send every transparent drawing individually
ok nvm i looked it up
blissful grotto
Wip
quick harbor
hey yโall do we have an outfit with a graveyard background
or are duplicate items fine as long as they donโt reference each other art-wise
mortal geyser
hey yโall do we have an outfit with a graveyard background
I'm pretty sure there's a zombie quest with a graveyard background
quick harbor
oh rip
mortal geyser
or are duplicate items fine as long as they donโt reference each other art-wise
@quick harbor well, depends but usually yes, it's alright
quick harbor
now for an idea hmmmmm
chilly hemlock
Is it better like this? If yes I'll do it for the man too
(this is not totally done, just to see if I'm in a good way or not)
@hazy falcon
chilly hemlock
Okay๐
quick harbor
aaaaaa what kinda idea could i base my outfit off of
next talon
Tbh if you can trace the drawing yourself then I don't see the point in not directly starting to draw in the vector program xd
@mortal geyser giiiirl drawing in vector programs is hell
at least when youโre used to drawing with a pencil or anything like that ๐ณ
untold ingot
wintry nebula
Is there any tutorial/guidelines to follow in order to draw new avatars? ๐คฉ
tulip siren
Well pin messages have them
tulip siren
Idk how to shade hair 
untold ingot
Any fb?
untold ingot
Hmm
sour apex
@untold ingot outline
mortal geyser
@tulip siren could you try making the black jacket just a very dark grey so you can actually shade it?
What hairstyle are you going for?
bronze talon
It looks like Anakin Skywalker
mortal geyser
@untold ingot the hair shading is a tad too dark
bronze talon
Yeah, also add highlights (and possibly texture if you are into that stuff)
bronze talon
The. Add hairs to compliment the bang aspect on the sides
bronze talon
The hair goes below the ears
tulip siren
But im only using as reference
bronze talon
Oh ok
mortal geyser
@tulip siren hm, that character looks like they have some sort of ponytail
bronze talon
Then I would curve to pony so itโs more definite
mortal geyser
Yeah
still osprey
Heya.
mortal geyser
Sleep first
bronze talon
Gn!! ๐^^
sour apex
Heya.
@still osprey nice work on vote
mortal geyser
Miri vented in this channel 
timber mural
still osprey
@still osprey nice work on vote
@sour apex Thank ya :D
tulip siren
Sleep first
@mortal geyser why
timber mural
i won't vote on that one
tulip siren
And btw in the thing in vote
untold ingot
@tulip siren I think the collar should be drawn normally like this
mortal geyser
Then start to be less unhealthy little by little 
bronze talon
I used to be a Roblox designer so thatโs like me go to
Now Iโm learning how to like not
LOL
See?
mortal geyser
I'm starting to get into digital painting therefore I love nicely blended stuff
bronze talon
Yes yes
still osprey
Miri vented in this channel :redbuttonfurtherout:
@mortal geyser runs
mortal geyser
Ooh that's pretty
bronze talon
Cause it donโt fit the โstyleโ
timber mural
hard to trace in vector
mortal geyser
Because it's difficult to trace in vectors
timber mural
if it can be traced at all
timber mural
can we call 2d items on a 2d template "art"
mortal geyser
Yes but the end results are usually so worth it
timber mural
hmm
mortal geyser
@timber mural yes
timber mural
i wouldn't really call wwo avatars "art" tbh
mortal geyser
Still gonna put them designs in my art portfolio 
timber mural
yes, they are drawn stuff, but it seems weird, at least for me, to call them "art"
bronze talon
My trash can could be art
tulip siren
Still gonna put them designs in my art portfolio :HC_sylveonsip:
@mortal geyser no
bronze talon
True but i mena its not like itโs not digital design?
timber mural
it is digital design, yes
mortal geyser
Designing is part of art-
bronze talon
Exactly
mortal geyser
H o w
timber mural
what
tulip siren
I just realized its same
timber mural
xd
bronze talon
LOL
tulip siren
i havent slept for four days
mortal geyser
xD
tulip siren
Please no booli
mortal geyser
S l e e p
bronze talon
Go to bed
rancid shore
art is something made with craftsmanship and is beautiful
mortal geyser
Yess
timber mural
hi stef
bronze talon
deb ot oG
still osprey
Shhh
tulip siren
S l e e p
@mortal geyser idk
mortal geyser
It's not a request
bronze talon
mortal geyser
I'm demanding you sleep
rancid shore
Everything is art ๐
mortal geyser
xD
bronze talon
still osprey
The creativity and love we put in our work is the true Art behind everything we do xd
tulip siren
I'm demanding you sleep
@mortal geyser but i want kinda to continue do fix it
rancid shore
The device you use at the moment is made with craftsmanship as well.
mortal geyser
Let's not go there pleaseee @bronze talon
bronze talon
Oh shoot sorry forgot what server I was in
timber mural
mortal geyser
tulip siren
B and solly be flexing there nitro
mortal geyser
Anyways, we've learned today that everything is art
bronze talon
(๏พโ๏พ)
still osprey
claps
bronze talon
dies
still osprey
Like me but im a bad piece of art
@tulip siren Ur artstyle just isnโt like the others, thatโs a wonderful thing, you are special. :D
mortal geyser
||rule 14, pls don't downgrade yourself||
still osprey
Yeah, Iโm aware of that. xd
rancid shore
Art is something that all people think different about something. For instance I like forged things but some might found it ugly.
timber mural
you just made the situation look worse 
tulip siren
im speccialy bad and im not breaking rule 14 i think
bronze talon
Wanna see my recents
โค๏ธ๐ฆฟ๐๐ฉ๐ฒ๐๐๐ฅบ๐ฅโ๏ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค๐๐ค ๐ฆต๐ป๐ ๐๐งฒ๐๐๐๐ฏ๐ค
timber mural
why leg
tulip siren
๐ซ
bronze talon
Lol I broke my foot
tulip siren
Cause leg smexi
bronze talon
๐ฆต๐ฆฟ so I sent this to everyone
still osprey
Ew Emojis
timber mural
๐
tulip siren
timber mural
this channel is nice
mortal geyser
@still osprey 
timber mural
why can't we stick to the channel topic xd
tulip siren
@tulip siren I think the collar should be drawn normally like this
@untold ingot so should i fix it
still osprey
why can't we stick to the channel topic xd
@timber mural Too many nice people to talk to
timber mural
tulip siren
Off topic is dead
timber mural
eh
mortal geyser
why can't we stick to the channel topic xd
@timber mural #avatar-ideas is low-key #off-topic for designers
timber mural
what about #role-ideas-readonly then ๐
rancid shore
No no we donโt talk about #role-ideas-readonly
mortal geyser
xdd
timber mural
lmao
timber mural
sleep
mortal geyser
Sleep
timber mural
fix it tomorrow
tulip siren
Fix it ok
mortal geyser
Health > almost everything else
tulip siren
mortal geyser
B r o
tulip siren
hides away
timber mural
my sleep schedule is ded
tulip siren
my sleep schedule is ded
@timber mural what is sleep
timber mural
the thing you supposedly do at night
tulip siren
the thing you supposedly do at night
@timber mural what thing
timber mural
sleep
rancid shore
Not to get political or anything but what even is a legit topic in #avatar-ideas
mortal geyser
Apparently designing but who does that?
still osprey
Best ratio Iโve got so far :D
quick harbor
Opaque or transparent?ยฟ
true relic
transparent i like better
tulip siren
Opaque
bronze talon
@mortal geyser can we do transparent?
Alice I would say either transparent or a color to differ from the fur hood like burgundy
quick harbor
Hmmmmmm
bronze talon
Or a slighter darker white
quick harbor
Better this way?ยฟ
untold ingot
Better? 
sturdy jewel
Better this way?ยฟ
@quick harbor yess
quick harbor
Yayy
sturdy jewel
yeah @untold ingot what about adding more shading to shirt?
untold ingot
I will do it now 
bronze talon
@quick harbor can we use transparent pieces tho?
still osprey
Yeah, sure we can.
quick harbor
Yea transparancy is allowed as long as its not fading anywhere
Like a gradient-ish thingy
bronze talon
Oh okay. How do they cut it out then?
Like if they were to use it... how would they not get the skin
feral sequoia
Hi guys
bronze talon
Hi!
still osprey
Like if they were to use it... how would they not get the skin
@bronze talon We are using layers
blissful grotto
Fb pls ๐ฅบ
still osprey
Oh wow, awesome.
faint solar
Is the shirt too much?
thick wyvern
Maybe make the squaresl a bit bigger so you will see them a bit better in game
bronze talon
@still osprey okay so like we save each of the eyes coat hair separately?
dense iron
dull iron
@dense iron This channel is for avatar ideas, just as the name and channel description suggests
bronze talon
Do these lips make sense? Itโs supposed to be sprinkles and chocolate on the bottom.
They go with these eyes but Iโm making a better version just with the same concept
near knoll
They kinda look scary... like they're staring into the void..
bronze talon
@near knoll yeah thatโs why Iโm changing the eyes are the lips good tho? Im thinking this instead for eyes
Or is it the iris?
near knoll
One part of the iris is behind the eyelid, but it isn't the case with this one, so it looks like it's staring
mortal geyser
||ngl I like the previous eyes||
timber mural
yes they look nice
near knoll
It usually is just a really small part, so...
mortal geyser
These lashes are nice but I like the previous shape more
bronze talon
Lol like 6 people told me the shape was wrong so I was like
Oh ok!?
And now
Ugh
People
near knoll
But it's the same with other avatars in game - they look like they're staring right at you, because you see the whole iris as a circle
It's not about the shape, I'd just move the iris a tiiiiny bit
mortal geyser
Lol like 6 people told me the shape was wrong so I was like
@bronze talon I think it's just about the eyeliner at the corner of the eyes
bronze talon
Imma try to get rid of the pupil reshape the lashes one to fit like the previous but still keep the lashes
mortal geyser
If you're thinking of just fix the old eyes, move them 2 pixels to the left :)
Yes, the fact that it's a few pixels off bothers me still ksksksjddjkdm 
bronze talon
Iโm planning to redo iris and fit the eye like this
So its the shape of the original eye
@mortal geyser
Its like a fox eye
dull iron
@bronze talon Im not sure how I feel about the sprinkles at the bottom, maybe try a different lips shape? Plus you can get an avatar base without the lips
bronze talon
How do u do lips?
Omg Iโm learning so much
Its only my second day trying to create avatars
dull iron
XD
bronze talon
Here show me some of your examples
bronze talon
Lol ok
dull iron
but i can try lol
dull iron
mhm
bronze talon
No one would want to collab with me Iโm so bad lmfao
dull iron
Are u joking? You draw beautifully :0
bronze talon
Can i see some of your collab partners work?
dull iron
Sure ^^, dms?
robust willow
I have just been experimenting with colours
dull iron
@robust willow Tis very intesresting, the shirt is nice, but I'm not sure if the rest fits with wwo style
dull iron
^^
quick harbor
Fb pls ๐ฅบ
@blissful grotto I don't really have any feedback, it looks very good like it is now! But i have some suggestions.
-
I would probably recommend you to make the lines on the rose a bit lighter or darker, because now it looks like a splash on his suit, especially if you look at it from far away. So it's really small and if you make a good color contrast you would see it much better. Maybe you can recolor the lines in white? But it's up on you. (you can also try out to make the rose bigger)
-
The pearls under the rose are looking good but i think they are too small to be visible in the game ๐คทโโ๏ธ
-
I would squeeze the outer edge of the scarf a bit, so that you have a bit space between the suit and the scarf. At the moment the scarf slightly touches the suit, that "trigger" uncomfortable feelings ๐ Usually it's not recommended to place things directly on the edges. Either you should have a visible space in between or it should visibly overlap. (General design rules)
Anyway it looks perfect! Great design! ๐
bronze talon
robust willow
@dull iron thx for the feedback
sacred rampart
the eyebrows look a little high
woeful cairn
@bronze talon I like the new eyes
blissful grotto
@quick harbor tysm ๐ฅฐ
robust willow
This is one i have been working on any fb on how to add more/improve?