#avatar-ideas
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I think i might try my skills on making a avatar-idea. What program should I use and where u found base model?
@iron mantle Check the pinned messages.
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lmao I'm multi-functional, I'm both in #role-ideas-readonly and here lol
i’d like to say the same but i’m not good at either
Added the lines to express that there are arms
@hazy falcon Can you give your opinions on this?

I edited the lines a bit so it looks less weird
Sorry for spamming 
Sure ^^
So first of all, I see the improvements ^^ you changed the hair and it looks less glued on the head the shirt has more details and you added front and back item.
I think the shirt is totally fine ^^
But.... In my opinion the left site of the hair looks really weird..... Like you cut something out.
The other thing i see is the shading. Maybe you can make it less like one circle but like hair xD
Also the dark strains look like they don't fit there 👀
The front item is okay, but what is it?
The same feedback as before for the mask.
In my opinion the back item is just weird..... Can you maybe remove it?
And last..... WHY ARE THE EYEBROWS SO ORANGE
@hazy falcon Why shouldn't the eyebrows be orange?
I like how they are orange
Front item is the staff
But I agree it looks weird
I have no idea how to fix the left side 🤷
I don't know either
I mean the hair not highlight
I don't see why it's weird
Why is it weird? @hazy falcon
Oh, wait. Is it this part?
I will edit that
Better?
Sorry, whenever I fix something, I flood the channel
So sorry
Idk with hair... Ye?
Looks amazing!
The lips is big but its good
i can make them a bit smaller for sure but i think their size is perfect
lips look fine to me too
is the overall look okay? i think it's done but maybe you see some mistakes
hmm mirrored highlights?
on eyes, right?
yep
@sturdy jewel hey, I like your outfit but I see a few problems for me:
The eyes are too wide. This would look awkward if I wanted to use the eyes on any other skin.
The front item. I get that the colors match, but I wish there was a hint of the front item somewhere else. Either that or maybe flowers in front to match the flower in her hair.
The lips aren’t big, but I do believe they need moved down maybe a quarter of an inch.
I hope these suggestions help. Good luck; hope to see it ing.

i know eyes are quite wide but i have no idea how can i make them look fine, i don't want to redraw everything
@topaz silo
If you want to make the eyes smaller and have them shrink diagonally then just fix the edges that might be the easiest way @sturdy jewel
i'll try. thanks
I liked the eyes before more :p
I'd just make both of them a bit smaller and tilt them a tad to the nose
Edges of the eyes look weird rn
Philtrum is too big rn, you should move the lips further up :p
If you wanna change the Chin - Lips relation you can make the downer lip a bit bigger tho i believe the lips look perfectly fine in the version before :3
Those were just my suggestions, if you wanna take mins im completely fine with that you dont always have to use mine, good luck tho
🙂
Hairline's a tad too high as well and the grey shirt should be a bit straighter down at the arms and not exactly follow the body template shape ^^
They round up to her belly right now which would only be like that if she folds her hands together in front of her belly and in that case the gred shirt should be a bit curved in front of the red overalls if you want to achieve that effect :3
i am giving up hahaha
For the red panda, isnt the head a tad too wide?
I'd slim it down or maximize eyes and the body of the panda
also give him a grey belly as well then :3
And maybe switch the grey on him to a lighter one or to white?
To make her match with her pet more you could give her red panda ears as well ^^
Also how do you feel about a small change like:
Switch the panda to the other side, the flower as well, and then add the flower like right above where her hair is behind her ear?
Like as if she used the flower to stick her hair back? :3
Just for reference i could imagine it fitting well ^^
Oh also small issue with the gre shirt underneath, the arm seperation/arms is/are a bit small you could try making them wider maybe? 💕
But i live for the eyes and the shirt :p
Don't you dare to give up on this masterpiece!!! @sturdy jewel
Where can i get a character sample?
@dark fossil I like the idea but it could be a bit worked out more 😄
Where can I get a character model to create an outfit for?
In the pinned messages 😄^^
I really wish I had some big pink or red wing avatar, like the black one that already exists 💁🏻♀️ with blond hair, green eyes lol like Barbie, kidding, just one big pink wing please 🥺 my dream
Kkkkk
❤
i think the pink/red wings would clash with green eyes
Yeees 😅
@sturdy jewel ok buddy
Imma say something to you even tho you didn't ask for it.
Your design, s l a y s
But designing needs a lot of dedication and learning on the job.
I design for what... 8 months now? And believe me it's been hell
my first designs -> desaster, if i re-see them i don't even know where to start wanting to verbally smack my neck for what amateur faults i made
But eventually,, yeah i got to the point where i post something, only ask for item ideas and get some odd details pointed out, nothing too major as i am familar with the majorest flaw correction, due to long experience.
I am here, right here, whenever you need ideas, feedback, or anything else.
Make sure to know I am here for you and many others as well. You will always get support just as you'll always get honest criticsm, but over time it'll decrease.
The road is long and believe me you're never done learning, but that is the enjoyable part of it ^^
Once you've started a project you're dedicated to it's your baby, you're also free to leave anything you wanna leave as is what we're here for is
suggestions
Unless it's not a major wwo style issue.
Believe me you're doing amazing and i really love your design alot, it'd be a huge bummer losing such a talent💕
Also yuss looks greatt man you really do slay geez
thanksssssss🥰
not in a wwo style?
also i didn't mean to give up everything, it is new for me so i am surprised how much work i have to put and when i think something is alright it turns out not alright
but i am glad that more experienced people help there
Copyrighted 👀
In what painter do wwo skin?
Check the pinned messages in this channel 😊
Is there a Tiki skin ingame?
Nope but there are some beach related skins in voting 😄
As far as i know we have jyst some tiki mask but not a skin
@rancid shore tikis arent neceseraly connected with beaches
the tiki masks are so big they cover almost the whole ava i believe
Indeed ^^
in the pinned messages is everything u need to get started @flat cargo 😊
Hi
the black shading in the hair is way too dark compared to the other colors u used, and the other highlights and shadows around the hair should be the other way around
the wings could use shading or highlights since they’re just one color now, also they aren’t placed right in the middle since on the right side of the neck there’s a white space and on the left there isn’t
the shading on the mask is on the wrong side, shading is on the left as done in the body
eye highlights are mirrored and is not recommended
the eyeliner could be a smoother line imo
Just to make it having some tiger thing on the hair
And it seems fine imo
They ain't really wings
could still use shading
Hmm
what is it then?
They are supposed to be damm dark
u could add a dark gray shading so it isn’t just one color
Wait, why is mask wrong-shaded
on the body the shading is on the left
It is on the right
so it’s only logical the lighting is from the right
No?
the left side of the body is darker lol
then i suggest moving it to the other side since the body can’t be changed
No
🤷♀️
I moved it to the left
so it fits (due to feedbacks)
now you tell me to move it back
lmao
chill i’m just telling u the light source of the body is on the right and i don’t see how it’s a problem when the candle is on the right?
Yeah, light source of the body is on the right because wwo skin are built this way. Sorry to disappoint :p
the whole outfit is symmetrical so why shouldn’t u be able to place the candle to the right? i don’t get it
u don’t have to redo it, just recolor the shading u have to highlight on mask,
Illegal to place light source on the left?
and on hair just switch the colors
it just makes more sense to keep the light source on the right since that’s how the body is.
u can see the face lol
anyway do whatever u want ima sleep now
I will fix it as soon as I return from scholl
school*
Good night
And btw, the eyeliner was intentionally made that way and I prefer it like that. Thanks
I think you need to put it on an actual face for us to tell. Imo you have too complex hair strands :p
Sorry I painted on your work, I was just "okay I'm gonna fix a bit here, a bit there", and I ended up changing a bunch of things xD it was a good practice for me tho, I've never drawn on the phone before
Imo this is how hair shading should look, I just fixed some strands and highlights to make it more natural. I made the lips more curvy (so that it looks a bit higher), but I think it should be made smaller now)
The panda would look better without actually shading the fur, and only draw actual highlights and shadows. I didnt do much here because I just realized I stood in front of my bathroom for almost 30 minutes now ;w;
@sturdy jewel I hope you don't mind I drew some changes, its a good idea and some more effort would make it better ^^
@quick harbor can I see what u have so far?👀
Needs some shading
I know. @quick harbor But can you give feedbacks about other parts other than shading?
@hazy falcon Oh hi 👋 Sorry for pinging, can you help me? 
First I have to get out of my.... Perfect warm lovely bed ;*;
Will be fully here asap
It's actually Perfect Lovely Warm Bed
Okay my old feedback is mostly still the same so I will keep it. Just the staff doesn't look weird anymore
@hazy falcon You mean the shading of the hair is still weird?
and the hair itself is still weird too?
The eyes are still big?
The mask still doesn't fit?
The shirt is still glued to the body?
The hair itself is okay
@hazy falcon so the eyes still big? Even tho its size was reduced?
Place the eyes lower 👀
@mighty crane :)))) (I think Star posted it here sometime ago)
@quick harbor try using bigger shapes instead of strokes for the hair shading. Also the lines to the armpits are a little high
@lucid finch I think I suggested it before, but could you maybe try shading the hair with the hair flow and not straight down? And maybe remove some of the hair highlights at the tips
Does the hair look better? 🤔
The guy looks like he has bubs to me :p try shading his shirt differently maybe, at the moment the rounded highlight make the chest pop quite a bit :p
I would try pulling the highlight straight down, over the edge of image, without rounding it at the end
Hair wise, the girl seems fine to me, but the guy imo have too many strands of hair on his face. Also the hair shadow is a little off. Could you show the hair without hats?
Here you go OvOb
@buoyant zealot not really... Idk
@terse warren i totally don't mind that you drew on it. thanks for the help i also think it would look much better like that
@lucid finch the eyes... it looks weird and the mouth... The outfit shades arent great, the color blue doesnt match... The hair look dead.... I feel like its from another game...
Honest opinion
Its good but selling it as time limited outfit isnt gonna do good my opinion
Eyes and mouth are not weird, but the both hairstyles, which look weird
Umm well the boy eyes looks weird to me...
And because of the background you can't see the back item 
Like it feels like the boy is like the girl with short hair version and much more healthier (chubby)
Itd look great if the outfit is different color like dark brown or pale blue...
the hair should also be different...
And you can't see what is grave and back item etc. I would prefer if you take more place and everything is visible properly ^^
Can you maybe remove the both upper things around their neck? It looks odd because these normally don't fly 
I really love the eyes, but the male once look more female same for the mouth
Dont have more because I really like the shirt 👀
@quick harbor I agree on that but then tell them what looks weird because else I would understand both eye types look weird and I would delete them. That's not necessary
@hazy falcon tbh the boy looks like he has boobs because of the shade...
@hazy falcon what looks weird is the eyes for male that has eye liner and black lips i mean their not emo their fortune teller
this kind of hair is good
this kind of headwear for male and earing is good tbh
Not really it's just a really hard difference between the colors. It doesn't look emo to me.... Emo is a huge difference 👀 since they chose a dark bg I think it's supposed to be a little bit... How to say it? Mysterious? Also this male and female also have similar eyes
Don't agree with the headpiece. It would look like a Genie 🧞
Tbh people likes cuter avatar for girls, and boys but their are some that prefers creepy...
Also can we make the eyes bigger for boy and mouth wider? It really looks chubby and wont go well with other outfits
the girl looks good eyes and mouth but for boy it looks a chubby asian kid.
he really looks similar to the outfit
lmao but with black lips
I always Design creepy eyes, but as long as it fits the avatar it is fine. In my opinion this eye type fits the avatar, same for the mouth. Also the designer decides what he want to do In the end
Sorry if I say it like this. I don't want to be always right here, but the eyes are not too small. If the designer makes them bigger my feedback would be, that they are too big. Due to the "length" of them, it would look extremely weird
@hazy falcon true but the girl is from mexico and an asian fortune teller for the male one... Thats what i think
Nobody said it's too much eyeliner, but in the end it's at least as much as on the other.
@hazy falcon it looks hot...
Just, I don’t like the hair. It’s very flat and there’s no flow at all. I don’t think people will like that either. But the boy just looks weird, because the eyes are shaped in a very odd way, the lips are way too small, the hairline has no flow at all, and in the shirt he looks like he’s very chubby
@quick harbor it's in #dev-vote
Because of the idea with different countries I agree, but we can't design country based avatars and also it has to fit each other
Yes I love that outfit Hyde 👀
Its like the alice wonderland vibe
@quaint bison yep the hair is the biggest problem. The shape of the eyes could be more male and maybe no lipstick could also help 🤔 the strains are too thin to fit with the game style
@quick harbor it's "Wonderland's Timekeeper" xD
Id like to suggest a school battle pass theme
I don't think it would be very good idea
The outfits would vary from countries' student uniforms
And it would make some people being like : "Where is my country's uniform??? You hate my country?"
Yep indeed
@lucid finch sorry I had a chaotic morning -.- took me a while.
Here is how I would restructure your hair. If I understand it correctly, the hair kind of starts from the middle of his head and spreading towards both directions, so the hair can be parted like I drew. I would try to shade and highlight each segment of the hair (instead of shading only the tip of it, which looked odd to me).
Also I think it will look more balanced if you make a connection between the haid above the ears and under it. At the moment it looked like he has the "upside down bowl" hairstyle (not sure if this is your intention ;)), but its a bit too wide and slightly imbalanced his head.
Hope this helps somehow :p
And light source is always from the right side of course 
Okie thanks for advice! I’ll tell Star to fix it up OvOb
What app do I use for create those avatar
Check pinned messages for body templates. I personally use MediBang @lethal creek
Tbh i dont agree with the school uniform counter argument at all
You do a white shirt with a tie and maybe a blazer
That's generic, pretty much basic, not country specific at all
yeah i don't think there's really country-specific school uniforms?
There are only school-specific logo's but you can easily avoid these by not drawing one :p
or replace it by a logo saying "wwo"
Only school specific yeah. In my country each school has their own uniform :3
lol in mine only catholic schools have uniform
my school doesn't have haha
Please make a melanie martinez avatar
I need that in my life
And i need a junior werewolf avatar
Junior werewolf is already in game 👀
i don't know how to highlight right part
@sturdy jewel
thanks
you're the best
This is a cute skin wow
^^
Do you guys draw this out or is there a program you use to make these avatars
Read pinned ^^
Ok
the flower looks outlined
i think it is fine..
It is fantastic 
@sturdy jewel very nice skin
It kinda is since the lines go all the way around
But it doesn’t look bad
but the flower will look better :)
I would change the form of the hair a little like this. Also the red panda looks a little flat because you can’t really see the ahadows
alright but please tell me this is the last thing 😂😂
The more better tips you get now, the more votes you'll get in vote ^
i was joking because i am tired of correcting and correcting but that's good
One last smol suggestion @sturdy jewel
How about making the ears like dis? Or a bit bigger atleast? So the ear - head - relation looks more balanced
yes!!
It looks like methaphore for women period
...
What the-
idk
what
im not a mod or dev but i like it! i would just make lips blue instead of yellow but thats it :D
@noble canyon
@noble canyon I think that there is not enought light aura around it
i really like these yellow lips
i really like the female hair!!🥰
i would make girl's hair less flat 
@gleaming quartz you don’t need to be a mod to respond to this :’)
@quick harbor around what?
Around the avatar of course
blue or yellow?
Blues
And maybe try to make more contrast in pupils
And her
Hair
It looks more 3d
Blue looks off because it is really dark
oh blue looks great too
Make the pupils a bit darker 👀
I feel like it would take off from the fantasy effect...
Hm
@noble canyon Looks amazing. But I'd make the color of the eyes a little darker because they are barely visible
Hmmm
You think we can make outfits based on real ppl
Or celebs
Why wouldn't we?
copyright maybe (?)
@noble canyon you can try making eyes dark blue and leave lips as yellow
the fairy tale says she has really light eyes
@noble canyon which fairytale?
Also the guys mouth seems a bit small
i think that hair/outfit/tomb are perfect
also @noble canyon , the lil moon between eyes is part of the eyes or is part of the "mask" section??
Tomb seems a bit plain to me but idk the story so I dont have suggestions
in this game would be great a whole outfit based in blue and black colors
we don't have many outfits in dark blue color.. that would be interesting
@noble canyon okay i checked it and im still tending to the "blue eyes" idea
Ok so basically I'm not a drawing professional or anything but I have my idea drawn just having problems with the eyes
And the hair
The shading in the hair is bad
But i can't seem to find any tools that look smooth enough
I think the color could stay, you could add a thin half outline to the pupil to make it more "pop". I tried drawing my own eyes with your colors so the left one looks different, but the outline works on your original right too @noble canyon
@radiant totem is that available on ibis?
?? cel shading is a type of shading
*cell
there are some good tutorials if you search up, ‘how to cell shade’
but you cant blend them out because that creates gradients
Alright thank you
@terse warren seems pretty good now!
@novel pilot maybe this could help you a bit ^^ how to highlight the curls
Also keep in mind that hat item is placed on top of hair layer, so you might want to consider a different hair shape that could look fine on its own
Unless the headband is part of the hair, but I haven't seen such item
there is some hairs with hair accesoires attached in it; the daily reward hair with flower and there is a hair with cat ears on it
The order of displaying items is:
Order:
- Background (day/night)
- Back item
- Body part of naked guy
- Shirt
- Badge
- Head part of naked guy
- Mouth (new)
- Eyes
- Hair
- Mask
- Glasses
- Hat
- Front item
Copied from pinned messages ^^
@atomic hearth I dont get daily rewards anymore :<
Must we physically draw a avatar idea or may we describe it in detail. I am not a good drawer
well then you already have it probably 👀
@::/×:*#:×%+%× wait, I'm dumb. I thought it's the free gold thing
This isn't the final but is this somewhat close to what you said? @terse warren it obviously still needs detail
Lips need a bit more shading and highlighting, at the moment they look quite flat and the shadow make them "float" on the face. Here's my suggestion @noble canyon
I got my reference from here
Mainly the shadow on the girls lips is troubling, it should connect completely to the lips (not leaving edges). Guys lip shadown is fine, could use some shading on the lips too
@novel pilot more like this I guess ^^ hair curls should be more like m shape than w. Light source is from the right so right part has some more highlights, and shaded on the left ^^ just a rough suggestion
I'm not very good with shading/highlighting colors, sorry :p
Omg it's hella better than mine I'll do what you did thank you for the advice:)
Also no outline allowed, so you should leave some open corners on the eyes :) if you check ctabb's eyes earlier, you'll see they mainly consist of plain shapes without outlines
Or the curly hair guy ^^ no outlines on eyes
Yeah i plan to erase the eyes because someone told me that before
@novel pilot maybe like this? ^^ I still need to figure out the shading of eyelid
Maybe make it thinner and lighter :) like the girls one
I'm just thinking if the shadow on their eye should be yellow, it doesn't look very natural. Could you maybe try a light shade of grey?
Just 1 eye to see
That looks better(ofc) btw what program do you use?
inkscape
Android?
I use Medibang ^^
windows pc
Ah
Oh I love that tree
fixed his mouth, and how does the bg look?
I like it, great idea. Don't know if it might be too flat to others, but I think it works well with the skin
Ok so i gave up the hair idea with a different idea and imma work on the eyes next because the honestly look really good
Just no.
a wild Hyde has spawned
Looks like it Lose its head part
Exactly
1st you have a body template which will stay like this and secont soo gore
It's like dark magic coming out from his head
Ah alright
What should i do with the head then? Do a different color like black?
Yeah, you need to also cover the shape of the head ^^
Umm... Different hairstyle? xD
Lmao i guess
does the gravestone count as an item in philipps's pinned message in this channel? since I have 5 body items + 1 gravestone, and it says that minimum items are 6
Or fire 🤔 @novel pilot
@noble canyon "Gravestones are optional but welcomed", so I guess they don't count as part of the items
Maybe add a front item?
yeah but idk what to do as it
lantern is nice 🤗
is it a delinquent?
No
Is it a ninja?
In some way
@noble canyon is this for the bp?
yes
Probably the only really good one so far imo
🙈 💕
@noble canyon shade the moon a little 👀
help me
Yea...
Could use some depth and other colors
The whole thing needs a bit of shading here and there
The wings on the staff could use some detail
lacks shading?
such as?
And you don't wanna see the old design of the staff lol
The hair in particular and back seem to lack the most
Why do you think it lacks?
Because it's supposed to be like that
I mean, I cannot design 3d hair
Only 2d
The thing you see is actually only the front side of it
I mean maybe flat is a better word
I'm not talkin about the hair
The wings and the wings on the staff
also the mask doesnt look completely even
Like one side is higher than the other
Intentionally
Looks quite odd ngl
Makes it look like its scooted towards the left
Like moved slightly
@quick harbor Idea for details for the wings of the staff please?
I changed it slightly
@noble canyon for female version i'd make the arm seperations a bit more obvious and i'd suggest you to make them thicker n a bit darker for both bc on my phone i can barely see them and in game it'll be even smaller :3
Also i'd give the lantern a more brown-ish shade/like the eyeline/eyebrows becsuse rn it blends with the light alot, at first i didnt even realise it was a lantern
okie I'll change those when I wake up
Card eyes and a card in the mouth
Can I do an icebear outfit or is there already one in the game
There is already one in game, but as long as they look different enough it does not matter 😄
@buoyant zealot I like it
@rigid flax Thanks. 
@noble canyon nice lantern
I would add more transparency to the lighting, and maybe make the most central ones more white-ish yellow (like their hair.
Maybe more emphasis on the light inside the lantern, and make the outer lights more transparent. I think that may work better :)
Do you guys think that something about Chinese New Year will be bad?
dang moono, the previous avatar you've just posted became so much better. GJ!
I do agree with @quick harbor, If you want the wings to look better, then add shadings that emphasizes it
:p guess le fairytale
what even is it
@quick harbor yuss, you won... 1 hug 
@somber bronze
final feedback?
@noble canyon just a question
The “tattoo” of the moon that they have in the forehead would be considered as a mask?
Hmmm
Then imo a mask would fit better to the boy,but you can also make mask and lips. @noble canyon
Idk why but the yellow lips looks too weird in the boy
if I make it as a mask, it will overlap the hair
For the shine on the grave maybe make it less rays and more spread out?
No idea what i'm doin but u get the idea right? 👀
Either ugly duckling or Jack and the beanstalk golden goose
But i love thus background and lantern and hair and lips and eyes :p and everything
This pullovers were Designed last year and are not available staff/guardian etc
B
@noble canyon love the lantern, it's beautiful 
I'm a little unsure about the gravestone, what's your idea behind it?
context: in the fairy tale, the monsters bury the moon under a stone
@noble canyon what app do you use?
inkscape
Looks great
Yupp that's better :3 💕 luv it
Theres a X-mas designer badge for the wwo designers club :p
@quick harbor
DM please?
I think you got the wrong channel there, lol
Role suggestions go to #role-ideas-readonly
@sand mountain Heya wrong channel 😅
Someone needs to remake the god, fly spaghetti monster for WWO
@hazy falcon Can you please help? 
@buoyant zealot where'd the nose go?
Why everyone says the mask is odd, while it's just a small curve on the right
Oh nvm
But I think that's already enough
@radiant totem Look, the mask is already at its maximum
MORE CARD THINGS (sorry me avatar is based of cards)
If I raise it even more, the mask would collapse the ears
aight
@radiant totem Better?
yeah
Any further feedbacks?
I'd appreciate a lot if you could concentrate on giving feedbacks for the staff and the wings
and the hair
the wings look a tad flat, needs more shading and highlights but i cant give a visual cuase im on pc
i'd help with hair if i was good with hair
How about the staff? @radiant totem
i think the staff looks good
Okay, thanks for your time.
Good morning ^^' I'm here soon just will check messages
Hey can I get some feedback on my role guys? #role-ideas-readonly
@quick harbor please ask in the channel ^^
@buoyant zealot I'm still not a fan of the back item and hair. Also the staff is missing shading.
Why do you dislike hair?
I understand why you dislike back item
but not the hair
The back item looks pretty random placed and the hair probably because of the weird strains and shading 🤔
I suck at shading
I still want to keep the strains.
@hazy falcon Moreover, the back item is the wings and I see no reason why it's random-placed?
I just tell you what I think. If I would see it in game, I would think it is a bug....
Probably because of the color and shape. Also the no shading problem
Okay
So can I do a avatar for Chinese New Year
Of course!
Probably, but i don't think it should have real Chinese symbols on it
Yea that’s true
@sturdy jewel thank you for &drawing what I tried to say for the mask since 4 days 
oh haahah
@buoyant zealot i would move the front item away from the face
also i think the black lines under his eyes would look better if they were wider and less of them
i think the same abt the mask but i'm pretty sure he doesn't want to change it,,,
Not to be mean or anything but I think he doesn't want to change anything
I was sure mine was great, then you told me to change some things and it is thousand times better
same @stuck palm i was pretty annoyed that everyone points out mistakes but it helped me a lot to make my avatar look nice 
@buoyant zealot I understand that you want to keep the black strands, and obviously you can, but you need to restructure your hair and highlight/shade your strands better
First of all you need to figure out where your hair split. From what you draw, I guess it starts from the top right of the head, and from there you can start parting your hair
Second, most highlights start from the root/split, so when your draw your dark strands, they should also start from there, otherwise they will just look oddly added.
I'm pretty busy today so I won't be able to show you what I mean, but here are some references you could use for male hair shading. Hope it helps :)
what do you think about this shape of hair?
it's nice
@terse warren @sturdy jewel @quick harbor Thanks for your concern. I will take all of your feedbacks into account. 💝
in the pinned messages is everything u need to get started @kind ore
Thx
Is this eye more fitting that the last eye i made?
Yusss
Agree!
that is gonna look way better ❤️
One small thing tho @weak wing
Idk if ur already working on that but i think you should add more dimension to the horns as the look a bit like paper cut outs atm
I'm no shading expert but somewhat like dis maybe? :3
Min is no expert? Pshhh please

Goo says Min p good
Goo goo gaa gaa
hey. do horns need more shading?
The iriss are outlined
yes
@wicked silo check the pinned messages for all the information needed
Which sites can i do it from ?
?help
Ahh I think discord is bugging
@wicked silo Use bot commands in #bot-commands
feedback please 
imo the hair looks too symmetrical and the eyelashes look a bit thin
I'd also recommend u to use a dark gray instead of full black for the eyelashes
it is a really dark grey but maybe too dark
oh
any feedback + ideas for the girl's mouth and bg item?
rather than a specific fairytale i was just going for your usual "dragon kidnaps princess" or something,,,
yup!
Why not dragoness kidnaps prince😛
Mood
Okay so first, I really like the boys shirt still ^^ Also I think the wings look much better than before. Another thing is, that I do not think, that the mask fits. On this point I would suggest to make a mouth 
The hair is awesome as always ^^
If you look at the eyes, it looks like they look on the nose both eyes look at the nose Maybe you could fix this ?
And please help me to find my cute ^ but right and left pointing, so I can make my lovely formating!?

lol there weren't any wings before www
and i added the mask because i wasn't sure about the old mouth, but i guess i can keep it
is that better? i'm not sure if i've fixed the eyes thing
I wanna do something that's themed off of pvz
Ofc not copied cause copyright laws
Anyone up for a collab?

In Feb, the Chinese New Year is coming, should I do a skin about it?
You don't need our permission to design something 👀
I wanna try to make a skin but I can't find a template that has mouth with no eyes
Can anyone help?
@quick harbor check the pinned messages ^^
I did but there is eyes w/o mouth, eyes w/ mouth, and one with none
Thank you
I will add these asap too
Ok so i orginally had this idea with my avatar
Not bad, just need cleaning, shading and the eyes needed to be fixed then i changed it to this
I would have to agree with you alot
I'm just having problems with the cleanness of the character
If you're having problems getting clean lines, and you're on mobile i'd recommend you to try out medibang paint💕
It has a great stabilizing tool which makes it easy to effortlessly get very neat lines ^^
If you got any questions about usage i'm your girl ;p
If you wanna stick to your original app you could try finding a stabilizer tool in that one ^^
Most have one just it's pretty hidden👀
Can I do some graffiti guys or are there already some ingame?
I think you can
Oki:3
The hair can't go behind the shoulders
Ok
yea but i am asking what should i do with the shirt 
I'm not quite good at designing I guess I can't help u sry👀
you're good and motorbike girl shows that, but okiee
@sturdy jewel not really, hair needs to go in front of body layer ;)
uhh.. i know but it is easier to draw a shirt when hair doesn't go on it
Aaaah, I get it. It's just the cropped hair part might look a bit odd if matched with shirts that have higher shoulders 😁
Shading of the shirt is mirrored
That makes me think the light source is the middle of the shirt but it is not
Same for the hair shading
The corner of the shirt seems blocky. I would add more curve to it. I cannot tell you its exactly name nor a picture of it. Hope you still get what I mean
I honestly don't like how the hair is placed so high. Maybe try lowering it a bit down until it looks more pleasant
thanks
i don't think having mirrored shading is that bad tbh
No problem. And honestly, I am noobier then you. Just trying to give stupid feedbacks
i think it's okay too but i want the shirt match with the girl's shirt, and for now it looks too flat
You mean the shirt?
yes
I don't think so though. It seems fine to me
I mean if you consider that as bad,my avatar would be trash ;-;
come on, your is not that bad
I think it looks good
Btw I wanted to ask you guys what you think. It's still just in the sketch fase so I haven't had it through Inkscape yet.
Yay 👀
that's the sketch phase? wow
i love the hair
@buoyant zealot everyone can choose their own light source
oh great Jin!
Aw thanks guys!
iris are outlined and you could add arm separations but everything else looks awesome
just, it's a shame that most of the wolf won't be visible ig
i think the mouth is weird, the teeth or smth like that would fit
What do you mean by arm separation? Do you have an example?
@ripe willow it looks amazing. Just two things:
- Big part of the bg will get cut off which would be a shame. So maybe you want to think of how you want to do that.
- You can’t remove a part of the ear or it will just look like something weird blakc is attached
Oooh okay I see. You have a point
arm separations is just drawing lines to separate the arms, like sleeves or something
Save it like this somewhere though. Cause it just looks amazing👀
I was worried about that that part would become a problem 👀
Gosh, thank you Jin!
I will be sure to do that then lol
Well, alrighty then! Thanks for the tips guys I'll get back to work then 😉
I did something too please tell opinions, i can edit it
@somber bronze how do you put a image into the canvas and how do you get the tool to do that?
@novel pilot are you on ios or android?
Android 😬
Oh alright, then how do you get the tool to make lines cleaner?
@It's Bløødy☠#7724 top of the canvas, "correction" i recommend turning it up to 20 ^^
@novel pilot ^ discord's cranky
You're welcome

very messy sketch
@somber bronze can you please help me too..? I don't know how to moke lines less pixelated
@granite rune sure! Do you use medibang or an other drawing app?
Have you got the correction all the way up in medibang? Also which pens do you use?
*brushes
@somber bronze one more thing do you know how to add a line to where it does the same thing to the other side(if that made sense)
Ah yeah pencil isnt that good to use :p
I recommend you to use the sharp pen for designing!
oh thank you!
Hm this looks interesting ^^ I really like the hood, but it looks kinda edgy.
Shirt:
I can not see that much, because the
probably hairis in front of it xD but currently it looks like it is just a big black shape without any thing. Maybe you could add some more detail? I can not make a difference between the shirt and the background to be honest.
Hood:
The hood is really nice, especially the leaves ^^ It makes a beautiful color sheme and I think with more details it could look much better. Currently I think about something like lines which could be like little cracks in a tree
For the leaves I would suggest to make the whitish parts more dark because then it looks more like shading, than like you drew white lines on it. If you know what I mean
also the bottom part of the hood which is not connected with the shirt looks weird. I wouls suggest to connect them and add more details on the shirt. Maybe also using a lighter black, because this type of black looks hard and is extremly hard to shade. Maybe you can also make the hoods shape less edgy?
Mask:
Well.... it is black xD
Hair:
As everything else, it is extremly hard to see...... and the hairline is too high...........
all in all, you should pay mor attention with the colors
@hazy falcon thank you very much!
I could send the whole thingy without the hat..?
maybe i'l rethink it a little
and i will try to shade the shirt too
Also my hand messes up my drawing is there a setting to change that?
@novel pilot you can either:
Create a Medibang account and in the "add brushes" section on your "cloud" it'll show you a brush called "Symmetry Pen"
Or you can draw something for one side and then click on the three dots in the layer section, select "duplicate" and then do "flip horizontally"
@novel pilot what exactly do you mean? 👀
Ok so i want a tool so when you draw something on one side it copys what you did on the other side
Ah yeah i explained the two options above
Oh didn't see it thank you again!
Oh and what i meant before is when i put my hand down to make it comfortable when i draw with my pen it makes a long line from my hand to my pen
Idk if there is a setting to combat that
there's this in settings, but i'm not sure if it does what you want
It does!! Thank you
what do you think?
it is!
have you checked the layer order? i feel like the eye is above the hair
@sturdy jewel maybe lower the hairline a bit but imo it looks beautiful 
maybe the girl a liiiiittle bit too
okay it will look better :)
@sturdy jewel Just to warn you, someone else also made a deer or what that is.
Not rlly like it, but same idea
what was it?
she said i can do it
But you can still make it ◖⚆ᴥ⚆◗
;-; i just spent an hour doing lineart until i remembered that we dont do lineart here
but mine looks totally different i think
Yea I know sorry for bothering
😯
No one honestly cares all that much as long as it isn't the exact same
U still gotta at least try and check😂
But yeah ur design is fine looks different anyways
Cant wait to see it done
noo they look different
@somber bronze it is okay right? i wanna be sure
It is true, that they look different ^^
It's different enough
alright
The only slightly similar is the horns
even horns are quite different
Yep
i'm thinking about background and foreground
Dont stress it
They seem very native soo maybe a bow
Alrdy a few in game tho
I could also imagine something that looks like a spirit of an animal or bow
thanks for ideas
any feedback so far?
@sturdy jewel sure even if it'd look similar i dont mind :3
i made a change and i like it
Is this good with the eye?
maybe put the iris a tiny bit more to the right
Got it!
cute, although their chest looks odd
and I personally dont like how red goes with yellow
but it looks fine
I think do pink eyes
my attempt at using medibang: (i never learned how to resize/duplicate/move layers around so its very uneven, i’ll retry after i search it up)
Better?
ooooohhh i really like it!
only thing i'd change is maybe a less saturated yellow for the hair
and some collarbones?
@radiant totem I really like the concept, but the eyes are too low and close together, the shading on the inner shirt might be a bit too dark and the lips are quite low too. the highlights of the hair could be more well distributed
;-; then i’ll scrap it cause idk how to move things around in medibang
also, min could help you with medibang if youd like
you can move the layer with this tool, if you only want to move one thing, select it and then use the tool
where is the mirroring tool in medibang?
Anyone knows how to activate the simetry thingy
To make the lines cleaner?
Like what i do on one half = does automaticlly on the other half
Ah what do you use?
@sturdy jewel
this thing?
^^rule nominer
to use it, you have to set the center point wherever you want it, but if you change tools, you'll have to set it again
This
To this, Rate it 1-10 and what needs improvement? I would like to hear feedback 😁
it looks really good!!
Thank you!
Oh i messed up something the eye that is cut is too far up
and the left eye is too low
Anyone up 4 a collab?
Anyone loves hellhounds like I do?
It seems to me like the mouth is just a random strich
@granite rune Don't remove the hat 0w0 was dine. Also can I see it without mask?
@granite rune it looks like there is a gradient in the eye/ you used a soft brush.
Same for highlights in the hair
oh am i not aloud with gradients?
sad
ok will edit
and i am going to try fix the hat
cause it looked bad
Ok so i fixed the gradieny
Gradient*
But the hat doesen't make sense at all :|
Can the hat go before the hair and after the hair at the same time?
It looks like this rn
what do you mean about the hat?
Once upon a time there was a hat
no i mean about how hat layer is above hair layer
@granite rune Love the hand, it's very epic, but it might be hard to combine with other outfits since it has the green glow, thats ust my personal opinion though. Love the eyes a lot!
I dont really like the highlights in the hair they seem too white and shiny, the hair on top of the head might look better if it was more even
the leaves are blending in with the hair colour a lot
I dont really understand the green bits on the shirt, i cant really understand how that would look or make sense as a real clothing
oh, okay
@radiant totem i heard min 
the hand came with the leaves.. so i thought green could match better with other green stuff
Medibang questions -> in ma dms
I answer faster in dms and i like it more bc i feel less like i'm evading the channel :p
I will try to fix the lighting on the hair tho
Is the highlight on the hair on a seperate layer or the same? :3
and the idea of the clothing is pretty simple, there are metal green circles that make a metallic "fishnet" and they are tied together through those black thingys
on the same the samev@somber bronze
without v 😅
I always recommend doing shading and highlights on two different layers with pure white for highlights and pure black and dark grey for shading
Then you turn the shading opacity to around 25% and the highlight opacity to 8-12% and look if it fits, if the highlights are too light -> turn the opacity down
If they are too dark -> turn the opacity up
If the shading is too dark -> turn the opacity down
" " Too light -> turn it up
I usually use the same colour on a multiply layer. So it gets darker
i did that @somber bronze, but i merged the layers
NEVER merge the layers!! :p
Until you have your final result
oki, i had just a ton of them that i have invisible 😐
yup i did that
feedback on this?
The dragon's a tad weird mb bcuz his wings are too low?
pretty
In relation they aren't too low in relation they are too smol, but you can't make them bigger cause it'll be invisible ig👀
make them a different shade of green ..?
or delete them and maybe add a leaf as part of the mask for example, would be another idea
cause the mask is quite plain
Oh and btw @granite rune hat can't be behind the hair and above it
Hoods need to be fit around the default head shape so the part of the hair should get covered
Good example is that bunny hood
oh okay ty @somber bronze , i thought so too
It's a bummer bc it's really not how hoods actually work but in layers we can't have one layer above and underneath another one 
Could even work👀
Making one part attached to the shirt which goes up till the ears, and make the other part a hat item until the ears/covering the ears
Yea that's the unfortunate thing👀
maybe i am going to use this idea for another avatar cuz i think i will make a small hat for this one
like a leaf or something
i'l think of it
i once tried to do a two piece back/front item, never finished it but i tried to make it that together it was one thing, and seperate it would also be something else if that makes sense
so that it won’t look weird if u only use one part of it
So I know this is like sad- idk where to put single items or if it's to late in the month for this. But any advice on the nose?
I chose the first blank avatar I had btw so there's so mouth 😔
:( here some doodle
nice skills
I fixed the lighting on the hair
And i've made the hair a little darker (so it won't blend with the leaves) if it needs anything more to be done, i'd like opionions please! thank you 🤗
I could work on a grave in the meantime
ooh looks grreaat
ty 
maybe a little leaf on the hat? 👀
yeah would be a good idea ty 🙃
Wow I like the hair shading
pretty
@granite rune just a personal preference but the lighting in the eyes is mirrored and it looks a little derpy.. Maybe put them both facing the left side ?
No it's fine 😂 we all do that sometimes
Anytime I hope it gets in it's looking really cool
hope so too 
even tho the hair might not be that good ,-,
still working on the grave
Is the hand good so far?
And i know outlines aren't allowed but god it looks horrendous without them
Wanna see it without them?
yeah it's nice, but the finger "lines" idk how to call them, are where the finger is bent not exactly after the nail



