@hazy falcon is that better? :'))
#avatar-ideas
burnt apex
hazy falcon
I prefer the first you posted here even if it's weird xD
burnt apex
okay then aaaa
quick harbor
I think it looks great
hazy falcon
It's just about the show background xD
burnt apex
day and night in the fairies's land
pallid zinc
We need creepy santa ๐ skin
hazy falcon
@burnt apex cool ^^ finished?
burnt apex
yep!
quick harbor
We need santa skin
stuck palm
So what do you think?
I will add grave and maybe front and back item later, some feedback at least on this?
I know that I'm here with it again, but you wanted the "collar" part of the raincoat with the hat, so here is it, also I kinda remade the shirt but the style is the same โค๏ธ
buoyant zealot
I don't think the style of the hair is allowed
Because it might be bugged and unsuitable for some shirts
noble canyon
it is allowed, I'm just personally not amused by the shading style but it's pretty nice
and the eyes look too low
somber bronze
Not really, its simply logical that your hair covers a part of your sweater, plus we got a few hairstyles that cut big shirts as well so it does not seem to be that much of an issue
But fair enough i guess :p
quick harbor
@stuck palm I would personally like it if the shirt would be the same on both sides
quick harbor
Oh btw I thought about this yesterday but completely forgot to write it. Would someone be up to make a Sheherazade and a genie or a Jasmin and Aladin? Something like that should really be interesting and probably very unique no? ๐ค
quaint bison
Genie already exists
quick harbor
Oh ok ๐ didnโt know that ๐ค
sharp notch
@stuck palm the shirt under the blue coat doesnt fit the jelly fish team in my opinion. Maybe something blue would fit more
molten canopy
Little Match Girl Collab with @quick harbor
median portal
You pinged the wrong stef
rancid shore
Thatโs my old acc indeed ๐
mossy shore
That eye scares me ๐
molten canopy
He and she is burners๐ฅ
people not buys their matches.๐ญ
They feel angry๐
BURN BURNBURNBURN!
mossy shore
Does the boy version have a white tuft too?๐
rancid shore
BURN! ๐ฅ
molten canopy
@mossy shore Hair?
quick harbor
This is a beautiful design @molten canopy and @rancid shore ๐๐๐
mossy shore
@molten canopy yes a part of the hair white like the girl version does.
molten canopy
Yes he has
mossy shore
I cannot see it with the hood ๐
rancid shore
Its copyrighted ๐
quick harbor
Right?
molten canopy
Yes
tawny cosmos
maybe if you make the stick burned okay but now its dont make sense
stuck palm
@quick harbor do you think white or purpleish half?
hazy falcon
@quick harbor nly the hat piece
tawny cosmos
so you get smoke after turned off (or extinguishing) the fire
๐ฅ
quick harbor
@mossy shore 
tawny cosmos
@molten canopy maybe like this
hazy falcon
@quick harbor hey hey ^^ it looks like your profile picture is invisible in light mode and this is against our #rules-archived. We want to know with whom we chat. Please change it, or else I will mute you in 1h.
mossy shore
@quick harbor 
hazy falcon
Ty ^^
quick harbor
Is my profile picture legal?
hazy falcon
Why not? 
quick harbor
Well ok then, thanks, and sorry for talking bout this in this channel ๐
hazy falcon
Don't worry 
fiery depot
Should I add a background?
fiery depot
I'm just very uncreative don't know what to add๐ ๐
burnt apex
i'm counting 4 items tho??
mossy shore
Idk if someone made a motorbike like bg but if it wasn't done it would fit well imo.
Count again @burnt apex ๐
burnt apex
hair shirt mouth and eyes i think?
mossy shore
Or glasses idk
next talon
earrings can be mask glasses or front item i think
i have 2 pairs ig in glasses and front item section but i think mask would be ok too if it doesnโt have another mask like this design
mossy shore
Ik that there's a outfit that has earrings as masks ๐
next talon
i think it just depends on what layer is still free that itโs put on
fiery depot
Motorbike would be nice๐ค๐ค
weak wing
Hello, this is my first ever digital art lmao, Can y'all please give opinions/or if there should be any changes^-^
I haven't put it on the day/night cycle yet
quick harbor
@quick harbor why did u ping me?
@quick harbor sorry wrong person๐ I thought you pinged me but it was someone else
Now I also understand the question๐
topaz silo
@weak wing I believe the red on your cape should match the horns it would look nice that way
quick harbor
@stuck palm sorry for the late reply. But purple
sharp notch
@weak wing heya! this is an amazing first outfit! anyways, here are some small points you can improve your outfit on:
- make the cape the same color as the horns or in the other way, it looks way nicer and it will fit better with the color palette you are using
- smooth out your lines on the outfit, a good suggestion is to use a stabilizer tool if the program that you are using has one, or you can make a half side, copy it to the other side and so it looks the same.
- the shirt, mask, scar and background item need some more shading, take some examples from #dev-vote if you dont know how to shade them
- the half shading is not done anymore, so i suggest to add normal shading to it (the skull on the chestplate)
- the amount of detail on some items look like different creators did it. Some things are amazingly shaded like the hair and some are really poorle shaded. try to balance the shading you are using out, because it look weird atm.
but overall i really like the concept of it and if this is your first outfit it is amazing. keep up the amazing work โค๏ธ
weak wing
I'll try my best to fix it ^^
fiery depot
Should I add a motorbike or not?
mossy shore
Yes ๐
atomic hearth
motorbikes are complicated, if you want an easier idea perhaps a helmet as front item, as if she just took it off ^^
or some cool traffic signs as bg?
fiery depot
I just don't know if I need a background? ๐ ๐
mossy shore
But motorbikes are cool ๐๏ธ
stuck palm
@quick harbor Thanks โค๏ธ
atomic hearth
its not required, but like people said you got space for a 6th item ^^
fiery depot
hmmm Iยดll try a motorbike
weak wing
yeah a motorbike would be cool ^^
pale gate
I like the helmet idea as well
wide sparrow
Hii, please feedbacks for me 
hazy falcon
wide sparrow
Say somethings Hyde ๐
hazy falcon
I like it xD it's really cool, but why is the sauce white. And the white on the front item in the blue looks weird ๐ค
atomic hearth
wow thats a lotta food, interesting haha, very colourful too
i dont really like th water drops on the drinks, maybe they could match the drops around the hat more?
wide sparrow
Ye bc it doesnt have bg so i feel pretty empty if i didnt add those drops
Lol, there is white sauce Hyde, I will fix the white line on that cup thank you โค
hazy falcon
XD don't think the wrong way! On a burger it's normally cream color?
quick harbor
@wide sparrow compared to the other drops the highlight of this drop is on the wromg side
wide sparrow
Thanks @quick harbor Iโll fix that too
mossy shore
Do you know what would be an amazing bg @wide sparrow?๐
wide sparrow
Is it better now guys?
wide sparrow
@mossy shore i want it has 6 items so... maybe i wont make bg :<
mossy shore
:<
fiery depot
Something like this next to the girl? (It's just a sketch) or is it too big?
Big/ complex?
hazy falcon
@wide sparrow 
noble canyon
I think it would look better if it were from the side, but I also think a helmet would fit better for the outfit
fiery depot
I'll try the motorbike and if it looks awful I'll go for the helmet I guess
terse warren
@fiery depot I think a motorbike would be great :3 I guess you can opt for simpler version of motorbikes (like these vectors) and enhance it with shading
You can have only 1/3 of it sticking out from either side. Should be enough and won't clutter the bg too much
@wide sparrow oh noooo, someone stole has the same idea as mine can we have fries hat next? Pretty pretty plis?
uwu
Maybe not covering whole head but just on a side uwu
wide sparrow
Aw ๐คฃ thank you. I will try next time โค๏ธ or maybe youuu can tryy
terse warren
Yeaaaaaaah I'm gonna have to wait until Xmas is over ๐๐๐ I didn't have time for discord til today
somber bronze
Yuss bebe try
terse warren
there's no such thing as too detailed ๐
I mean, consider the size it will be in game, and the amount of effort you would need to create it, if it's worth your time
If you enjoy creating it, for pure satisfaction, then it's always worth it
fiery depot
I would do a little smaller size of course
terse warren
I personally really like the details looks like professional work
fiery depot
:3
sturdy jewel
what do you guys think?
vocal haven
the hair canโt be behind the body ๐ and gradients arenโt allowed ๐ค
sturdy jewel
okay, i didn't know thanks
vocal haven
^^
weak wing
@sturdy jewel You can check about the do's and dont's in making these avatars on the pinned messages ^^
honest mural
Any Feedback?
atomic hearth
ooh cute, maybe some grey on the bottom of the paws?
nd the grey spot on the nose, looks odd, i had to look closely to understand its the nose
honest mural
Ok thanks
topaz silo
@wide sparrow @terse warren you guys could collab and make a boy version of the hamburger girl, but the boy is fries
And they both could have the drinks as a front item?
I think that would be cool
The hair could be the same color scheme etc
honest mural
Is that now better?
topaz silo
:oooo its amazing i just with there was also like a part of the eye having some lesser black as shading
honest mural
Or is that better?
topaz silo
@honest mural depends on what ur using it for, for a front item the firs one, for a bg the second one. The second one could like surround the personโs head if you did it like that. Gl on your skin, Ik it will get in #dev-vote
honest mural
@topaz silo thanks but that was a tombstone but your idea is i think better
???
Uff no dagger
buoyant mantle
Wow that looks really good
honest mural
Any Feedback ???
nova valve
What's the red thing in the middle for grave?
Why does female shirt look exactly the same when most other outfits differentiaite between genders?
buoyant mantle
There is a small difference, male has broader shoulders
atomic hearth
Hm maybe mirror one of the shirts, so the straps is the other way around
That would look nice for couple outfits
other idea could be, to make one of them have raised/stand up collar
topaz silo
Or have the girl show more skin^^^
mint scarab
i love it, especially that animal (a fox? 
) imo i dont really like the hair, i guess it's a bit messy in both male and female version. maybe remove the circle one and draw more (the red line)..
nova valve
@buoyant mantle
Yeah, but here's what I mean
The second and third outfits have a much-noticeable difference or tailored to gender
First outfit is a good example of, say, a person trying to look like the animal
The avatar in question is an beastkin, not an anthro beast <<
If I'm making any sense here..?
quick harbor
What does that even mean
nova valve
Mmmmh
The genders' shirts look different because genders
The guardian wolf shirt looks the same because...
Because it's an animal outfit? Is what I mean.
quick harbor
Well wouldn't this one be categorized as genders๐
I mean it's all down to the designers but from what your saying
nova valve
It's clearly going to be gender split lol
So why not?
terse warren
@honest mural the dark little wolf should also have white inner fur ( or at least brighter), and white part in the eyes should stay white. Right now he just looks... desaturated, doesn't really fit on the girl ^^
And what Kit said make sense, maybe you could add some decorating details on the girl's shirt? (Lines on her collar, strap, or a paw gold pin on her chest). Something to make them more distinguishable ^^
tawny cosmos
still working on this old outfit
anyfeedbacks
tawny cosmos
there was girl with him but nuuuh why more work 6 items enough
tawny cosmos
or add 2 more items and make it daily maybe idk yet let me finish it first xD
mighty crane
Hello! This is a Collab between me and @TrashAlicia :>
I made the head item, gravestone, hair, male lips.
*Front item is wwo's: I only edited it a bit
@TrashAlicia made everything else
Feedback pls -w-
@lucid finch (the tag doesn't work uh)
hazy falcon
will be back soon
somber bronze
Did you draw the front iems yourself? :3
mint scarab
the front item is a new role
somber bronze
I know that but you aren't allowed to use icons in your design ;)
You need to draw everything urself
mighty crane
Yeah, I've been told in the design server :D thanks anyway dudes
somber bronze
yeah by me :p
tawny cosmos
@somber bronze me too feedbacks pls
should i make girl ?
i cant make hair
nvm then
mouth and front okay np
somber bronze
I'd love a girl version :3
tawny cosmos
me too but im lazy to make girl hair
rancid shore
@tawny cosmos then recycle girl hair ๐
quick harbor
Iโd love a girl version too omg ๐ and I wish I could help but I canโt draw for the life of me. ๐๐คฃ
honest mural
@mint scarab is that better i am not finished
mint scarab
@honest mural that's a lot better maybe you can add some more shades
quick harbor
Make the motor bigger
weak wing
Hello, would this deer skull be better than that other one i did before?
this was the first one
don't worry about everything else๐ท I would be changing almost everything except the hair and horns
fiery depot
Like this or bigger?
weak wing
the size for me looks better now
quick harbor
@weak wing I like the animal one better. Keep in mind though that you dont make it too detailed
weak wing
Should i lessen the detail?
honest mural
Any Feedback?
honest mural
fiery depot
Should I improve something or am I done? ๐
hazy falcon
I would not make a female version tbh
honest mural
@hazy falcon why
hazy falcon
Idk xD somehow
hazy falcon
quick harbor
@weak wing eyebrows!
weak wing
oh right i forgot to add them... thanks!
burnt apex
if you keep it 6 items, you can make a clan quest, so i wouldn't make a girl either
fiery depot
Do earrings always count as one extra item or can they go with the eyes/mouth, idk
somber bronze
They can go with everythin, also hair for example ^^
weak wing
the shirt is not done, but does it have too much detail?
weak wing
So far i can see 6 items... It could be a quest outfit
honest mural
Thats are 6 items. Any Feedback?
burnt apex
maybe add a grey shirt collar or something so the neck doesn't look so empty
quick harbor
@weak wing it has a bit much.
@honest mural you have dark grey lines around the irises which kinda look like outlines
fiery depot
im sorry that I ask so often but can I improve anything or am I done? o.O
honest mural
Now?
hazy falcon
Somehow the Grey pet looks random
quick harbor
Agreed
@fiery depot are the eye highlights mirrored๐
Doesnt look like it's actually on the head either tbh
And idk why
quick harbor
@fiery depot make them un mirrored๐
fiery depot
okay :p
somber bronze
Terrible at hair :p
Does it in any way look as if she were underwater or just random? :p
honest mural
Maybe if you make water in the back it could look underwater
quick harbor
@somber bronze its a bit static. If you make it more flowy it would look more like water
oblique blaze
how about if you do some role outfits?,for example: corruptor,marksman,tough guy,bodyguard,sordecer,sect leader...
vocal haven
many role outfits are already made ๐
sharp notch
Yup! There is a list in the pinned messages to see which outfit from the game already got made ๐
quick harbor
Make the eyebrows thicker
@somber bronze Queen, try to make it more like strands of hair separating. You know what this makes me think of right now? The trolls I used to have as a kid.
Itโs nothing bad, because I donโt have the tiniest bit of talent for drawing, but thatโs what I see. ๐
weak wing
thankyou ^^
tawny cosmos
@hazy falcon why you dont give me feedbacks 
hazy falcon
I just came back from family baking ๐ช
tawny cosmos
hope you had good time
weak wing
๐ช
quaint bison
@tawny cosmos lmao did you really use the fortnite skin hairstyle
weak wing
I think my mask's shade is not that good compared to the other parts..
tawny cosmos
with different color
quaint bison
@weak wing I think you should make the mask instead of grey white, matching the claws on the shirt
quick harbor
@quaint bison if it has too much detail in a certain way you risk it not being added to the game
weak wing
@quick harbor Does it have too much detail tho?
quick harbor
The shirt is a bit busy
quaint bison
Oh and are the horns a part of the hairstyle?
Because if they're not, it would look weird with other outfits
weak wing
Yes they are
weak wing
I don't have an idea about that yet...
fiery depot
It looks like this without the hair (are there any mistakes/anything to improve):
quick harbor
You can try to make the iris + pupil bigger and a little more to the middle
quick harbor
Better
fiery depot
Ty
high crater
quaint bison
Servers are baaaac
vocal haven
@sturdy jewel I like the idea, it looks good :) but there are outlines around the eyes -> itโs not allowed
and the jacket looks too straight ๐
sturdy jewel
you mean these down outlines?
sharp notch
@weak wing that is a lot of change for one outfit! But it looks amazing ๐ some small things you can improve on are:
-add some shading on the shirt, at the moment it looks like the teeth and the feathers are only shaded
-the mask has almost no shading, what about a sort of 3D effect between the grey and red part? As if the mask has two layers (so basically add some shadows on the mask)
-this is not something required and maybe not needed but did you try to make him look angry? You dont have to change the eyes itself, just make him more fit the clothes he is wearing
You can really see all the hard work you've put into it since last time. Keep up the great work
@tawny cosmos you can already see the upgrade from your previous one, vut i found some little flaws in your outfit:
-the hat from the male looks like it is slightly to the left. Which is OCD triggering in my eyes. Or center it or make it look like it is centered
- why do they look so angry? That doesnt make any sense seeing the context of these outfits. You can make them look a lot more happy
-the beard has no shading at all, giving it a mittle bit of shading will make it stand out more
Overal i think this can become a really great improvement on your first one. Keep up the good work
@fiery depot looks great! But there are some small things i would improve:
-the jacket looks like it is made of plastic with all the reflection on it, maybe turn that down a little bit
-the eyes are looking to the top of her head, try to let them fase more forward
It are just some small things, but this looks amazing already. Keep going 
fiery depot
thank u but I dont really know how to change the reflaction on the jacket so it doesnt look plasticlike : /
vocal haven
@sturdy jewel yep ๐
sharp notch
@sturdy jewel nice start! But maybe you can:
-smooth out the lines on the beanie, currently they are pretty wobbly
-the shading on the hat comes really close to being gradient, i had to zoom in to find it was fake gradient ๐
if it is intended to be a shadow it is a bit too light.
-the shirt is using pure black right? If so, maybe give it a little blue or red tint, black is really hard to shade and can get you in some problems with that later on
Overall this outfit is great! A background and/or foreground would completly finish it off.
@fiery depot i think it can look less plastic-like if you tone it down with the saturation. If you look at real life jackets similar to your design they only look a little bit lighter
fiery depot
okay ty Ill try it tomorrow : )
little badger
i may be overlooking this but wheres the character templates?
hazy falcon
In game.... Not sure, but I'm pretty sure someone designed one....
little badger
aight
atomic hearth
yup min made one ^^
hazy falcon
Eyes lower placed and replace the black line with a darker red one (or make the upper lip lighter
sturdy jewel
thank you so much
hazy falcon
Just ideas tho ๐ in the end you choose how you do it ๐
terse warren
@somber bronze my character in Maplestory has similar hair in pink with highlights tho. I really like this hair color bebe :3 I think this can totally be a guy as well
Gosh I scrolled so far to find min's stuff xD
quick harbor
You can make more than one of a theme as long as they are different enough
Fyi mashi
Just do a detailed search to find it next time @terse warren
๐
With the magnifying glass
terse warren
@fiery depot couple of things I just spotted
- I'm not really sure what the extra small piece on the jacket is (for button?) It looks a little randomly placed imo
- The collars seem quite feminine to me, as in, I think it should be with rough edges instead of rounded curves. Like a vest collar. Not sure if you get my point here :p
- The shirt inside give the impression that her whole body is tilted to one side (while she isn't). I suggest making it more straight instead.
- I'm thinking if the eyebrows could be darker, more towards black, since eyes will be a separate item and the brows could be more neutral to match other hairstyles.
@quick harbor min is worth all the effort ๐
@sturdy jewel I think red eyeshadow would look great on her (instead of going with just an eyeliner)
and listen to Hyde about the rest ๐
quick harbor
Is it normal that thereโs no hair around the neck @sturdy jewel ? It looks very odd to me. ๐ค
Agreed^
sturdy jewel
i don't know if i can add hair there haha
atomic hearth
hair can touch the neck, if it stays above the shoulders in that area
i think thats the idea
sturdy jewel
okay, then i'm gonna draw them :)
terse warren
... So much for attempting to draw .__. This is what I mean by eyeshadow, I'm still trying to draw on the phone sorry ๐
Of course more transparency and better shape, but it would add some depth to the eye
quick harbor
The lips donโt really look right, also the eyes are too big and wide. The shading style on the hat looks weird compared to everything else and overall it looks sloppy. I suggest taking more time to make your lines in the hair look less โsquigglyโ as it looks really rushed, it has the potential to look decent. @sturdy jewel
^ @sturdy jewel wrong ping, my bad
tawny cosmos
The eyes looks fine
quick harbor
They dont look like theyโd fit other outfits well
I donโt really care much im just pointing out what i see lol
tawny cosmos
yeah different opinions
quick harbor
weak wing
@sharp notch Can you see the shading of the mask better? I lightened the red part a bit
topaz silo
The right eye is closer to the center of the face than the left eye^^^
noble canyon
this shirt is wicked ๐คฉ
weak wing
oh does it look closer... because i used the symmetry rules for the eyes
fiery depot
@terse warren do u think such eyebrows would look better?
quick harbor
@fiery depot I like the other better
quick harbor
@fiery depot maybe try this
fiery depot
Hmm okay I'll try
weak wing
yeah.. it would look better if the shape of the shoulder is seen
fiery depot
Better?
weak wing
you should add the buttons too, but it looks better now
quick harbor
Yes. I would personally remove the gray stripes close to the neck
fiery depot
Okay :) right I forgot about the buttons
weak wing
how about the shadow below the collar? would it be nice if the shadow would be similar to the shape of the collar?
fiery depot
Little bit round u mean?
quick harbor
Discord is being mean to me againโน๏ธ
weak wing
yeah, a bit rounder
quick harbor
Same
weak wing
i was thinking about this, if would change the shade myself
fiery depot
weak wing
but that works too
timber sundial
Its realy good
hazy falcon
True ^^
timber sundial
Yea
weak wing
Can you see the shadows better now ?
timber sundial
Yea
hazy falcon
Still love the shirt and mask xD
But the eyes are still weird. Can you maybe rotate them? It could be, that the current rotation causes this and I would like to see how it looks after 
The hair is just wow, as I told you already in dms ^^especially for a first design. But I just noticed, that on the right it looks like there is no hair ๐ if you see what I mean on this point. It's right above the ear and looks like you sisnt want to continue ^^ you added more longer strains and random placed
For the mask it would be cool, if you can still change it, to change the red parts with the silver
sturdy jewel
i shaded hair more and i think it looks a bit better now, added eyeshadow, eyes are smaller and lower
vocal haven
The eyeshadow looks like gradient 
fiery depot
vocal haven
I personnally like it ๐ but I think at the bottom, it would be better like this ๐๐ผ
fiery depot
I think this looks weird
sturdy jewel
@vocal haven instead how it is or i should take a darker colour?
vocal haven
I think the colours are good ๐
sturdy jewel
oh i see, you meant the shape :)
sturdy jewel
vocal haven
weak wing
@hazy falcon I would rotate the eyes to make it less sleepy right? and probably change the right side of the hair
somber bronze
Hm
hazy falcon
@weak wing just a try first ๐
weak wing
and for the third suggestion, did you meant that i would change the color of the red part to the grey, and the grey to the red?
hazy falcon
Yes
weak wing
sure! I'll try later
fiery depot
Just one question. What happens after the outfit is done?
hazy falcon
If you designed an outfit, which follows all of our guidelines and you think it's finished, you can submit it to a mini mod+ (users with my color and above).
We post it so the other mmods+ can give their opinion and if we post it in #dev-vote ^^
Then it can go into the in game gallery so the in game community can vote๐
hazy falcon
You can ping one of us with the last version and name or dm us ^^ both is fine
hazy falcon
quick harbor
It means hyde gets scared of all the amazing designs
sturdy jewel
i think that instead of hat in my outfit i will add a red flower, it will be easier and wil look good in more avatars ๐ค
buoyant zealot
Oh I see your design, demon
I honestly don't like how the hair doesn't cover the... the.. idk how to call it, so I'm just going to take a screenshot of that part
And...
Literally, no one helps me?
hazy falcon
@buoyant zealot I just forgot that I got a ping here xD sorry
buoyant zealot
๐
@sturdy jewel I'm more of an amateur
(also, it would be awesome if someone could help me with the shading, I'm horrible at shading)
With a few changes
I know the hair shading is weird ๐
burnt apex
oh i remember you from the dc! you've improved a lot :00
buoyant zealot
Oh hello ๐
burnt apex
hyde's working on feedback so i'll let her work skfjdlfks
hazy falcon
Soooooooo first: it's not ugly! If you say it the next time I will totally 
you!
For the start its good and you can always improve! It's already a big improvement to the other designs I saw from you in WWODC
Hair:
the current hair version looks pretty flat not only because of the missing shading, but also because it completely follows the templates head. The direction of the strains it extremely weird^^' I sketched you something you could use as idea (Red line is the shape and yellow shading) and will add my skater. If you wanted to go for a style like this
Eyes:
the eyes seems to be really big and I don't think the orange or brown fits in. First of all, try to make them smaller ^^probably even lower placed
Mask:
it's a good thing and fits with the others. It reminds me pretty much of the mask from the fox tail skin in the shop ^^
try to make both sitedaround the nosethe same ^^ currently it looks odd
Shirt:
I like it, but same here: it follows the exact bosy shape. I would suggest to make it less glued on the body ^^also more detailed won't hurt. You can add some shading so we can see where the arms are too
All in all:
nice thing but could use more detail. Don't follow the body templates too much ๐๐
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/610855155860111411/610855692995264522/body_template_1-7.png
hazy falcon
Read my feedback xF
buoyant zealot
Oh right XD
burnt apex
i feel like the eyes are pretty big
fiery depot
the shading of the hair is strange
weak wing
@buoyant zealot Hi Moono! Damn i never thought I'd give suggestions lol. This is a great idea.
Here are some suggestions:
-The eyes are too big, maybe you should make it smaller and bring it down a little, it looks like the eyes are too high.
-The shades on top of the hair doesn't makes sense, be sure where the lighting is placed and how the shadows would be drawn to. It's best if you would have a hairline, that way you will have a guide to how the hair flows.
-Maybe match the robe with the tiger patterns to make it look better, You can also make the shoulders wider.
-The staff lacks shading
-(my opinion) You should have something on the shirt (that's underneath the robe) with something so it won't look plain. You can add lines that emphasize it's arms.
-The 'crystal' thing in the middle of the robe could use some shading so it would look much more of a crystal rather than just a circle.
Keep up the hard work, i know you can pull this off great
If you need a guide on how players put shades, you can visit #dev-vote. There you can see where they have imagined where the lighting could be (the most common place is top/right)
next talon
lighting is usually on the right side and shadows on the left since thatโs how the body is shaded
at least thatโs how i do it
hazy falcon
@buoyant zealot my feedback still counts 
quaint bison
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somber bronze
Which one's better? :p
craggy pivot
Both are super pretty but I personally like the first one better since its simple and minimalistic and I love minimalistic in most cases
topaz silo
@sturdy jewel its cute but her right eye is closer to the middle of the face than the left eye
Can u fix that please โบ๏ธ
sturdy jewel
ohh how did it happen
topaz silo
No idea ๐คท๐ฝโโ๏ธ
sturdy jewel
what eyebrow?
sturdy jewel
oh yes i was doing something with them
i'll correct that, thanks
@hazy falcon could i hear your opinion? haha ๐
quick harbor
@sturdy jewel I would curve the eyebrows a bit, because the expression looks a bit off. It reminds me of this emoji๐
hazy falcon
Hm hm I really like the shirt because it's cute. The only thing is, that the shirt itself looks like a big Grey shape and you could add some more details.
The lips are somehow creepy and it looks like she wants to kill you (without hair)
For the eyes I would use lower opacity and ye curve the brows a bit
sturdy jewel
i was thinking about stripes on this shirt
should i do something with lips? the shape is wrong?
austere fossil
@wide sparrow
radiant totem
austere fossil
Erm where is it again?
strange ridge
How do you make these?
austere fossil
@wide sparrow dont stress out, it just a base idea tho
strange ridge
Paint or something?
austere fossil
@strange ridge you can sketch your idea and transfer it onto computer for svg file
strange ridge
Ok thx
wide sparrow
Here is my collab with @austere fossil please give us feedbacks
somber bronze
@strange ridge check out the pinned messages for more information like which apps are recommended, the style guide and most importantly the body template 
@wide sparrow loooks cuuute tho the fish on the shirt looks like a chicken leg :p
wide sparrow
Lol :)))
strange ridge
How much does that cost
quick harbor
You can use anything. There are some recommendations in pinned messages. But you dont have to use those if you dont want
strange ridge
Where is pinned messaging lol
sturdy jewel
in 3 dots at top
strange ridge
?
quick harbor
Android or ios?
strange ridge
iOS
quick harbor
You can, but you donโt have to
sturdy jewel
idk Hyde said they look creepy haha
quick harbor
I think that is more because of the eyes that the mouth looks creepy
If that makes sense
sturdy jewel
i don't really know what do you mean
burnt apex
the mouth in itself is fine
strange ridge
So do we just copy and paste the template and draw on that?
burnt apex
but if you add some more highlights to the eyes or something and don't make them mirrored it will look less creepy overall
hazy falcon
@wide sparrow the part on their cheak is weird but it's super cute
austere fossil
@hazy falcon which part tho?
hazy falcon
austere fossil
Oh oke
It was originally based on this drawing
So it was pretty weird looking when we tried to make that into outfit style form
quick harbor
Its cute
hazy falcon
Yes it's super cute
austere fossil
Thanks a lot for the compliments
hazy falcon
But is it your drawing? Because it's pretty similar
sturdy jewel
yeah it is freaking cute
wide sparrow
I made them smaller @hazy falcon is it ok now?
hazy falcon
OK then it's fine ^^ can you try to make the white highlights less white ๐
wide sparrow
Sure, thanks Hyde ๐
austere fossil
White is h y p e
quick harbor
Also why r the eyebrows orange๐
hazy falcon
It looks open because of the shading ๐
austere fossil
Oh, see the point now
Thanks for the comments and feed back
I appreciate you guys concerns
sturdy jewel
thank you โบ๏ธ
somber bronze
Any mouth item ideas? :p
sturdy jewel
maybe an air bubble if she is underwater
mossy shore
Maybe instead of a mouth a mask?๐
Something like what demonrose said would fit imo
atomic hearth
is she a mermaid?
you could add the scaly parts on the face as a mask
maybe some dark green lips? ^^
heya... wrong chat
need help with anything?
please dont spam then.
go chat in #off-topic or #wov-chat
quaint bison
Wow
mossy shore
Donโt delete the shine things (that I guess it has a word that I donโt know) of the hair @somber bronze ๐
sturdy jewel
sparkles ^^
somber bronze
Oh yeah i only forgot to enable the layer again, i disabled all layers to draw the tail :3
somber bronze
Medibang paint :p
quick harbor
All of the items are very similar to other in-game items
Example
^ @somber bronze
somber bronze
It's not that similar also this is an aquarius skin, i am quite aware such a skin is in game already but i am following a fairytale not a zodiac.
The little mermaid's got a tail that's just what signifies a mermaid
It's up to the mod team if it's too similar but so far you've been the only complaint so yeah i'm keeping the design up either way 
But thanks alot for your concerns ^^
nova valve
๐ค
Maybe if min adds gills to neck?
Dunno how she feels about gills
quick harbor
topaz silo
@somber bronze could u move her eyes down a little more they seem a bit too high
rigid flax
An idea for the designer. Make a avatar that doesn't have a mouth. -This means nothing will be shown were the mouth is suppose to be, not even the default one.
radiant totem
stupid question but are greek myths taken as fairytales?
quick harbor
Prob not since we just had a Greek myth bp
radiant totem
ok ty
quick harbor
Maybe in actual terms tho I'm honestly unsure
I believe a myth and a fairytale are diff tho
radiant totem
what do you think an avatar based on a banshee would be like?
radiant totem
true.. i'll try to stray away from ghostlike features
i searched it up online and it says this:
A beautiful woman wearing a shroud
A pale woman in a white dress with long red hair
A woman with a long silver dress and silver hair
A headless woman carrying a bowl of blood that is naked from the waist up
An old woman with frightening red eyes, a green dress and long white hair
An old woman with a veil covering her face, dressed all in black with long grey hair
so basically hearing their screams means they're warning you of death
but idk how to physically draw screaming
without her... screaming
quick harbor
I mean u have a mouth to show screaming
radiant totem
-silver hair
-shroud
-blood
-bandages
-swamp-like background
-bloodshot eyes
-mist
true
thats my plan so far but,,
i want it to be more distinguished
broken glass maybe is signify how loud the screams are?? maybe a backpiece could be a house with shattered windows since she screams to alert people of death or something
opal urchin
I have a idea
quaint bison
What is it?
quick harbor
The style of the red panda is pretty different from the rest of the avatar
sturdy jewel
yeah..
opal urchin
Well heres my idea:
For boy:
Long hair with shaved sides(red and black)
Eyes normal but with red star lense and there should be bits of silver little stars neer the side of the eyes.
Outfit=black studded jacket(studs are silver)
T-shirt inside the jacket is a light grey t shirt with a skull logo
Accesory is an electric guitar shaped like a triangle.
For girls:
Emo hair(red and black)
Eyes with eyelash and red star lense.There should be bits little silver star near the sides of the eyes
Outfit=black studded jacket(studs are silver)
Dress inside is sleeveless and the colour is like dark red
Accesory is electric guitar shaped like triangle
Hair wear for both boys and girl is dark bandana
My avatar's name is Rock Star
somber bronze
@rigid flax that's not a request for a designer it's one to philipp :p
We only design items and not change the default template
The mouths replace the default mouth so just ask philipp/emanuel to be able to select "none" and have no mouth :p
@topaz silo they are in fact the default height moving them again lower will make her face look squished :p.
Default height meaning the height most eyes ig have, lowest eyeline on one line with the highest part of the ears
terse warren
@sturdy jewel I would remove the "sketchy" lines on the panda and mainly leave clean shapes, that would make him fit better :D
And I think you could try adding more details to the flower on her hair, maybe add something in the middle, and make the outer dark shading thinner. To br honest I also really liked the original beret, it makes her more elegant
topaz silo
@somber bronze maybe I just need the lips to see it better
tawny cosmos
any last idea ?
rancid shore
@tawny cosmos maybe make the cat higher than the shading of the hood ๐
tawny cosmos
huh?
sturdy jewel
thanks @terse warren
radiant totem
i wanna see how it looks with the eyes lowered a bit
terse warren
@tawny cosmos can I see it without the cats whiskers? I think they are too long and kind of make the faces messy.
Also could you try flipping the little front cat (so that he's facing right)? The blue on shirt kind of blend in with his color
dull roost
I created this masculine skin, it's just an idea. not perfect needs some retouching my nick: ST_VITOR9XZ
quick harbor
?
dull roost
I can't send the image
quick harbor
You need to be mee6 lvl 1. You can get it by chatting a bit in #wov-chat or #off-topic
gritty otter
can someone make a skin with Very big white eyes
or very big Black eyes... i want to be super sad
dull roost
I created this masculine skin, it's just an idea. not perfect needs some retouching my nick: ST_VITOR9XZ
thank you
hazy falcon
@dull roost
Hey hey ^^
So first of all, the idea is really good, but there are some issues about it.
Hair:
you didn't draw it yourself I guess? You probably cut it out of an character. That's pretty obvious because the hair ends, where the eye ends. It's probably DragonBall am I right? Please draw everything yourself because drawn things are mostly and especially anime, copyright. Don't cut things out.
Eyes:
the eyes are okay as far as I see it, but you placed the hair under the eye layer, which is not right. (Link for the Layer order: https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/426721136701603840/504953531527331841) they also look pretty big and too high placed but that's hard to say because of mask
Mask:
Well it reminds me of a mask which is already in game. The edgy part above the nose is weird and doesn't fit in. At the same time it looks messy and just like you wanted to fill a shape or something so it's finished. Try to work clearer and less messy then it could look better
Shirt:
it also looks weird and messy, especially the fact, that you didn't use any shading. Missing shadings are pretty often weird and everything looks flat ^^
Background:
Outlines are not allowed and you didn't draw it yourself.
All in all:
nice start, but please read the style guide again (link for the style guide https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/426721136701603840/532137261165314048)
fonts outlines etc are not allowed
Also check the pinned messages to find out how you get the designer badge ^^
dull roost
THANK YOU FOR THE ERRORS I WILL MAKE ANOTHER SKIN โค
rancid shore
@tawny cosmos look at the cat ear
The shadow layer is higher than foreground
And the blue is blending too much with the blue sky background ๐
good point
tawny cosmos
rancid shore
Like that indeed
terse warren
Yeah, I think it looks better without the whiskers. Maybe also on the rest
And I meant to out the little cat on the same side, just looking away from the guy :p
tawny cosmos
when i shave my beard v
quaint bison
@tawny cosmos tbh it looks like heโs behind the person? The face goes a bit weird
quaint bison
terse warren
Yeah I spotted it too xD personally I prefer the cats without whiskers, but not sure about others
tawny cosmos
lol?
buoyant zealot
Also I personally don't like the back item
It looks... weird
just my stupid opinion
buoyant zealot
The male hair
I don't like hair personally
It doesn't fit with the hair really well
Or the hat doesn't fit the hair well
The grave is fine as hell
tawny cosmos
i should move the hat more down
buoyant zealot
lol
But girl's hair is really good tho
I like it better
And why does the male have the hat while the girl doesn't
tawny cosmos
use girl's hair if its become in game
buoyant zealot
Are you thinking that male > female?
tawny cosmos
to show you the hair 
tawny cosmos
its fit girl too dw
tawny cosmos
to show you the hair
radiant totem
how is it so far?
tawny cosmos
the eyes too big
radiant totem
ok
weak wing
Would a boney, bloody dragon be okay for the back item of this avatar?
and also, i will have to match the left part of the hair to the right one, because someone said the left part looks rushed and to me it actually does ^^
mossy shore
Male version with pink jellyfish ๐ฅบ
stuck palm
Yes of course, I just need to finish this one โค๏ธ
noble canyon
the eyebrows seem to be a bit close together
noble canyon
bette
dull roost
I made another skin, is this right now? this I did everything I used nothing ready ...
noble canyon
it's cool but if you're going to half shade follow the avatar tones
rancid shore
I like that one ๐
quick harbor
Also keep layer order in mind
stuck palm
Anything you'll change about my design by the way? @quick harbor @somber bronze @rancid shore
rancid shore
Its nice but the hood doesnโt have a backside so you might add that
Or am I blind ๐
quick harbor
@stuck palm lip shading can be darker + bigger shapes
somber bronze
Heyy @dull roost the zipper looks very detailed in relation to the rest and like a copy paste from the internet....not accusing but there are just a few style variations that are a tiiny bit too harsh..
Also the eyes look familar, if you did these yourself... try to adjust them the style of the rest maybe?
Also make sure that claiming to have made something if you did not has consequences and it's very easy to find out ^^
So in a nutshell, add more details on the hoodie, mask, and simplify the zipper ^^
Also the eyes looks very pixel-y you might want to try and fix that
random pollen
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hazy falcon
@random pollen English ^^
sturdy jewel
is the head of naked guy separate item? i mean is it on different layer?
stuck palm
Yes, it's a different layer but I don't think you can find it in the pinned section
stuck palm
I don't know but I think so, by the way beautiful skin โค๏ธ
sturdy jewel
quick harbor
@sturdy jewel itโs okay. Just keep in mind that shirt canโt go in front of the face because of it
sturdy jewel
yees sure it is not in order now
quick harbor
A smidge darker maybe
stuck palm
fiery depot
At the right there is some blue/green behind the black
quick harbor
alpine pagoda
So cute 
sturdy jewel
aw
quick harbor
@stuck palm yes
alpine pagoda
The shape of the hair seems strange to me right
sturdy jewel
why?
alpine pagoda
It would be necessary to refine the points
quick harbor
@sturdy jewel itโs pretty dark. Asp the right side of the hair looks different than the left. As in style => left is more one shape, right multiple smaller shapes
sturdy jewel
is is bad that's the sides of hair are different? ๐ค
sturdy jewel
yeah Crepu i think it would look better like you show
sturdy jewel
it is my first serious design so it is like that :)
so i need to make panda lighter and correct hair i guess
alpine pagoda
I'm not very good either, I reassure you, I only made one entirely
stuck palm
Don't worry @sturdy jewel , it's really cute
stuck palm
Thank you so much โค๏ธ
tawny cosmos
Copyrighted
dull roost
every game I play has always wanted this skin, I bet it would sell well if it were for daily promotion
rancid shore
@dull roost it canโt become a offer
(Offer requirement is that you need to have male and female and grave is optional)
rancid shore
Im not sure about this one
tawny cosmos
Guy Fawkes ย is not movie?
sturdy jewel
btw there are some offers with just male or female
rancid shore
@sturdy jewel it was changed ๐
sturdy jewel
but the one befote previous one was a female only :0
sturdy jewel
ouu what are they?
tawny cosmos
Yeah the movie is V for Vendetta used that mask
rancid shore
The exception is when philipp likes it ๐
sturdy jewel
okie
terse warren
@sturdy jewel any chance you could increase the transparency of the grey and dark red shading on the panda? I think he will look good in brighter color/lighter shading :3 right now the shadows seem kinda dark
dull roost
I'm going to create a female version and the grave so .. we have no copyright, I got an idea copyright only if I use original image .. internet search hacker mask that's why I got the idea
terse warren
Highlights in these places look odd to me. On the top it is too big, which makes like hair look like a solid mass. The lower one can simply be removed I guess :3
dull roost
since they don't want to accept mute only the mask so
sturdy jewel
should i remove all lower highlight?
terse warren
Here it looks like she has paints dripping down her cheek :p make it more pointy I guess. And fewer, but big strands on the lower part would look better
Also I think the right side of the hair is a bit too big, looks slightly distorted. I would try to flatten this part and bring the darkened hair a little closer to the main part
I'll show you at home once I have my stylus ;ร;
terse warren
Min does everything with her fingers, I have no idea how ๐ I'm too potato for this
sturdy jewel
on phone?
terse warren
And mine is a pretty basic one with a soft head, it's just way thinner than my finger so I can control things better
Yeah
sturdy jewel
yea i think using it would be easier because i would see what i draw
i started to like drawing like that ^^ and have some other ideas
terse warren
Good luck :3 I'm glad to see more talented artists here
sturdy jewel
๐
somber bronze
~~i used to have a stylus but then i lost it and was too lazy to buy a new one so i just drew with my fingers and i find it mouch easier :p
I got much more line control :3
sturdy jewel
i'll get it and see what's better for me
somber bronze
then again you have to adjust pen pressure and tardation of the lines in the brush settings to ur liking :p
sturdy jewel
i had to check what is it ahaha
i am curious about how long does it take you to draw one avatar?
somber bronze
Depends....
If i got an idea like... 4 hours?
If i'm just winging it prolly around a week where i work like one and a half hour every other day or smth
sturdy jewel
okayy
stuck palm
And here I am working on one avatar for week and a half and it's still bad :)
Do you have to make male and female version for special outfit though? I'm pretty sure I saw many that were only female
sturdy jewel
hey it is not bad
stuck palm
@sturdy jewel thanks โค๏ธ
sturdy jewel
i do mine since saturday and i spent too much time on it :(
stuck palm
Well the hard work shows
void sequoia
I have an idea for a avatar but how can I design it (^-^)
quaint bison
Whatโs your idea?
gleaming quartz
hi! how can i design an avatar??๐ฅฐ
quaint bison
Read pinned messages ๐
stuck palm
Maybe check pinned messages first, if you still don't know ask!
And yes, maybe if you have an idea, write it here, some avatars are done or copyrighted
terse warren
Min just did something similar some time ago :3 you can check #dev-vote if you need some inspiration
stuck palm
Anyways, it seems interesting โค๏ธ
sturdy jewel
oh i don't wanna do anything similar
terse warren
But if you make her dark, more like evil type
I think that would work
Black hair, red eyes for example
stuck palm
(i love those eyes tho ๐ )
sturdy jewel
hmm
stuck palm
I don't think I've seen white deer, so yeah, that would be great
somber bronze
@stuck palm male + female version are more likely to get a special offer :3
should either be both genders or unisex in the best case ^^ bcuz equality and stuff coughs in earlier days when bp was male only and all women arose :p
i made a white deer but only ears and horns so ur fine :p
stuck palm
Also, if you can't find ideas, you might check Pinterest or Instagram
sturdy jewel
Pinterest is full of it ๐คฏ
hushed rose
Hey there can someone help me
sturdy jewel
ye
dull roost
could someone send the avatar image without anything
sturdy jewel
you can find it in pinned messages
quick harbor
@hushed rose there are some computer programs that work with svg. Inkscape is one of them
quick harbor
I donโt work with svg
hushed rose
๐
somber bronze
the better you trace it the better it looks*
hushed rose
Ill take all my time
atomic hearth
this doesnt fit the wwo style but you could make an avatar based on this sure
we have a shirt set that is like this, from bp 6 but its only blue lines
and for the male mask, it cant go under the hair, and it has gradient
quaint bison
+gradients arenโt allowed
quaint bison
But good idea!
sturdy jewel
why gradient is not allowed?
somber bronze
Because it does not fit the game style
The game style is cartoon-y and the shading style is cell-shading
sturdy jewel
fair enough
gleaming quartz
may i ask you where did you take the mannequin half body pic?? i cant find an high quality one ://
hazy falcon
@gleaming quartz check the pinned messages
gleaming quartz
@hazy falcon thank you!!
hazy falcon
dark fossil
Opinions about this budgie hoodie? Does this look at least a bit like the 'wwo style'
gleaming quartz
i think it agrees with wwo style!
buoyant zealot
@dark fossil Yes , it does
The shirt is plain, it needs details.
And the game no longer uses half-shading like that
But keep up the good work, I see great progress there
weak wing
@dull roost I like your idea! We already have a clown avatar, but i guess this would be more of a christmas theme?
Here are some suggestions:
-It seems that only the circles have shading, You should add more shading to everything else.
-Regarding the mouth, it's good, but those black lines on the teeth aren't allowed (which are outlines). You should use different colors to shade the teeth.
-regarding the eyes, you can ask the admins if these are allowed, because they are not "usually in the right place"
-The shirt looks flat, maybe add something to that so it would look better.
Overall, it's a great idea, just needs a quick fix.
Art takes time ^^ you don't need to rush it. To be honest, there are a lot of avatars made in the game that took more than a day to finish (as per record in a drawing app)
dull roost
dull roost
Hey guys was my skin accepted?
atomic hearth
It looks good but there is a few things that dont follow the rules
the mask layer is above the hair layer ingame
its better not to use pure black for the hoodie, so it can still be shaded etc
we alr have a very similar hoodie, part of a serial killer outfit as well so i dont know if this would be ok
and the gravestone, is the standard one in the game, but you should draw everything yourself, including text
pale gate
Itโs nearly identical, item for item except the in game one has a knife
soft cliff
hey guys, feedback?
quick harbor
Dope, maybe a mask or bandana. The flare on the shirt is out of place and should have less colors, but it looks epic
soft cliff
out of place???
noble canyon
it draws too much attention
you could at least make the same pattern in the bandana
and the eyes look way too low
noble canyon
it's cute, but the eyes are too low and have gradients which aren't allowed, the hair looks too high and it can't go behind the back since it would look weird with some shirts
it could also use more shading
buoyant zealot
Yett, here we go again
Feedbacks are welcomed
(btw, if you think right eye > left eye, you're wrong, it's just illusion , they're the same)
quaint bison
So many new people wow
buoyant zealot
A slighly changed version
The eyes are a little changed so they look more likely
Almost still the same ๐
keen hazel
Ok! :3
weak wing
Hello again @buoyant zealot!
I never knew you took my suggestions๐
The design looks better now, but here are some suggestions
-The highlight on the hair is kinda off, I would personally not make the highlight "a straight line" kind of thing. The hair would look better if the hair had movement. (I suggest that the middle part should also have shape like the ones in the edges.)
-The mask needs a little shading too. You can make the dark color of the mask with the color of the tiger stripes the same, that way it's lighter;easier to shade with.
-The folds of the robe looks like it just cut off. You should extend that.
-Since the robe has those folds, You can add shape to the rest of the robe.
-You can add lines to emphasize the avatar's arms, since the robe does not block it.
-The colors of the orbit things on the staff look out of place. You should change their colors, and match it with the color palette of the rest of the avatar.
Remember these are just my personal opinions, and if i were to change them
buoyant zealot
I prefer it that way
peak pike
Hi
buoyant zealot
The Tiger Wizard
burnt apex
i think this would look better if you made the sides of the mask more even
and if the torch is the light source, shouldn't the shadows be on the other side?
or you could move the torch, less work
buoyant zealot
Hmm
I'm thinking about removing the light source
Or... simply move the front item to the left
Yeah you said it
burnt apex
and if you're keeping the highlight as just a line, maybe curve it more like this?
buoyant zealot
Yeah, I already thought about that
Earlier
Wait, lemme fix something
Better
@burnt apex Thanks
atomic hearth
I think it would be cool, if the hair also had some tiger stripes in it
buoyant zealot
@atomic hearth I think there are too many tiger stripes for a day ๐
Tbh, adding some tiger stripes would look weird imo
Thanks for caring though
atomic hearth
basically a stripe, a small lock/bit of hair
burnt apex
something like this, for example
burnt apex
and don't worry, we're all english noobs here skfshsfkjs
buoyant zealot
@burnt apex can I copy it 100%?
burnt apex
if you want to skfjsjhs
burnt apex
perhaps
buoyant zealot
you forgot the spamming
And by the way, I'd like to see one day you being a Designer.
You have good designs
burnt apex
aaa thank you ;;
my last design is constantly like 5 likes away from the 3/1 ratio and it annoys me so much aaaaa
buoyant zealot
I upvoted that one