#avatar-ideas
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But i think i did it
And the symmetry in the line for the mouth
@hazy falcon thoughts?
move the mouth higher. rn it makes the face look long
!!! also i have a great concept but need a designer to apply it digitally !!!
Frog Day at the Pond
Hawt am i rite
Here is without the hat so u can get a good look @ the hair
My raincoat shading looks really good now
Im proud of this
@topaz silo i think you should make the eyelashes thicker, I don't think these will show up ig as the way they are rn
@median briar i kept getting told to make them thinner by the staff ;-;
Believe me they were thicker before
@topaz silo Hmmm, i guess listen to them ^^ btw I love the shirt
Ty
The best part about my outfit is the fact that it is 6 pieces so it can be a clan quest if needed
@topaz silo I don't like the eyes, their shapes looks weird, and seem to be close to each other. The hair has outlines, remove them.
The frog looks weird ๐ค
I don't like the mask too , I don't even know it is, and if it's a math, how can the mouth be on it?
Still, overall, I like the idea.
@quick harbor there are mask in game with mouths attached to them
Show me.
Ahh, I remember the kitty one
But look! the tounge is out of the face
In the first look, anyone would think it's a mouth, not a part of the mask.
And now, the Mouth category exists, it means Masks with mouths on it , should not exist, I guess
@quick harbor 6 examples.
They mostly are masks which cover the whole face
Show me one which doesn't cover the whole face
This is a bandanna with a mouth on it. @quick harbor
However there are mask in game with mouths attached it it
This if you consider this a mouth
It's not a mouth
But a bandanas with mouths attached is a realistic suggestion. My examples are probably"bad" for your satisfaction
I did but it didn't satisfy you so eh I give up with pleasing you
Show me the ones that are in-game, but it doesn't cover the whole face
Mask with mouth exist that's all I was proving here
What is your level in-game?
50
51 actually
okay lol
@quick harbor it can be a mask go with mouth. I mean if she doesnt seperate them 
i think it's fine if the mask has a mouth idk
@topaz silo maybe make sure that the lines on the hat are straight with a ruler tool or smth
but it's really cute!!!
@topaz silo Ann is right, the eyelashes should be thicker, and they should be wayyy less
Because rn they are considered as "too detailed"
Also i would change the eyeshape a bit, move the eyes further apart and place the iris more into the middle because the iris being so close to the nose gives off the effect that she is looking at her nose
I really like the coat tho, the shading looks really great! ^^
As for the hair, the shape around the head is a tad weird as it is so close to the lines of the head, also the shading makes it look a bit like plastic, it should be a tad less light, and the darker shades should be less just like lines around the strands and more like actual shadows? 
~~since i am on vacation and got literally, nothing to do i sketched out a lil example as a guide for the hair and the eyes
picture above
Feel free to change and keep whatever you want tho since its your design 
You're really improving with every version ^^
a lil example she says
@somber bronze I definitely agree with the eyes but im not so sure about the hair i was kind of going with the plastic sort of look in the first place but if you think this is better i can try it. Im not exactly the best at shad so its still gonna look bad lol
@topaz silo you can keep the hair like your own idea, i still like it. But maybe change the tone of color as what in Minโs example will make it better 
@quick harbor min uses medibang ^^ check the pinned messages
@topaz silo it's not bad i really like your design 
Better?
@woeful rock the mask looks weird. And the hair should be drawn more smooth. I like this idea but i hope you can make it better 
So i think you should make another mask or a mouth for her
Mask layer in front of hair
I prefer the previous version to this one 
yeah i liked the roll cakes too
Hey any feedback?
It looks a bit blurry (the pic i mean). Can you send a puc with a higher revolution?
The shading on the hair is off, especially with the things i marked with blue in the pic. They make the hair look like plastic in my eyes. The leaves for the neck can use a little bit more detail, maybe give them some small nerves. The shiurt has this weird line in the mid of it (see the green marked on the pic). The treestump can also use a bit more shading. Everything looks pretty flat over due to the missing shade. I love the eyes and the mask, they are so cute
oh that looks really good!!! have you thought about adding bear ears? i think it would be a fun detail
I'll work on it, thanks ๐
@sharp notch revolution against resolution ๐
@rancid shore ๐ thats a typo
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how do you make avatars
Heyaa @quick harbor 
Make sure to check out the pinned messages! They contain everything you need for designing an avatar such as apps, you can use to draw, the body template and guidelines a design should meet 
The avatars are drawn by the people, you can basically use any drawing app for it but the recommended ones are in the pinned messages 
oh thanks @somber bronze
You're welcome
I am finished! What now?
@honest mural now you can either show your result here, to see if we got any additional, final feedback and if we do not find any more issues you can ping a trial mini mod+, they got an orange name, just watch out for any online ones
Currently there is sonblo, hyde and majestical
Or if you think your design is ready to go you can submit it to a trial mini mod+ in dms, again preferably an online one
Make sure to include a name for it
They'll discuss it and then post it into #dev-vote for you 
@signal raft i think the design is amazing ๐ but i think the three could be more real by adding a larger angle on the bottom part as its root..
Name: Fun in the woods
@sharp notch do you have any update on my genie?
@honest mural you forget to mention #dev-vote and an admin like role.. @sharp notch for instance
We are still discussing, we got a lot of outfits to discuss and we all have a personal life. Just be patient, it will go to #dev-vote if we think it is good and if we think it is less good you will gain feedback via dm
@honest mural i will discuss this outfit with the others. Thank you for submitting it 
@hard garden sorry i am Bad in english
Np
@sharp notch thank you
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No problem 
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@sharp notch ok ty
yeah last time i got to vote in a few minutes so i thought that discussion part would be after the vote channel ๐
so my bad... thx for the update
Dont worry 
Do you need a level to enter here?
@barren harness what exactly do you mean? 
Hmmm A new friend entered the server now and this channel does not appear
Yuss, you need the
sheriff role to be able to see the idea category and type in most of the channels, they should get it by adding a
reaction to the rules 
Only then they'll see the channel 
Ty uou
@still mirage acรก podรฉs poner las skin que haces ellos te darรกn feedbacks de como mejorarla,por quรฉ no intentas enviando una?
(I'm just explaining how the channel works to a friend)
Okey thk neahโค
UwU
I have to post my avatar here?
Hi, im new in this app and i don't know how to use correctly but i did this avatar and I wanna know if i had to change something
@still mirage the hair cant go behind the back
Its in the rules..
But your character looks great.. only some more shading on the shirt would improve it a little
Since your having those red hands in the background maybe you can add an front item with that colour in it as well
That looks cool
I would prefer it if the eye highlights arenโt mirrored since thatโs just how light works๐
Other than what joooo pointed out it looks great
Guys my wifi sucks.. i saw every thing duplicated and now i think i removed to much ๐ ... so im saying it again just in case it really is gone.. the long straight shadows in the hair dont feel natural maybe you can take a look at those aswell
@quick harbor lol you can see she tried.. cz she also has a highlighted layer in it the eyes bottom that isnt mirrored
But im amazed you see those small things so fast everytime you really living up to your name ๐ a real shading/highlight police ๐
Thanks so much!! Its first avatar and I tried a lot, so i will hear you
Oh, the hair isn't behind the back
it seems so but no
@still mirage heyaaa, not rly an ibis paint professional๐
But i would make the eyes a bit smaller, also for the hair, i agree with joo, you could do something similar like the red lines in the picture
Because that straight down isn exactly realistic, also as hair is above the clothing layer the hair would cut off a lot of clothes which would look weird
Also i'd prefer the lips to be a tiny bit bigger and you should remove the cross โ
As those aren't allowed because they are a religious symbol, the necklace is a cross afaik
Atleast looks like it
For the front hair, try working in bigger strands and move the hairline a bit up so you can place the eyes properly too and so other eyestyles fit with this hairstyle too
Other than that rather minor issues:
- the arms look too small and the torso too big, you should try making the arms bigger and the torso smaller
blue lines - also try making the lines that seperate torso and arms in either a dark grey colour instead of a light one because there should be a shadow and not a highlight
Thats all, its really an amazing start tho i like it alott keep up the amazing work

You're welcome 
@somber bronze
Did you draw this with your fingers ?!
to say that to me a trait is already not right. pffff๐๐ญ
I only drew the red lines 
It looks goodd but maybe try to make the two curls at the side more flowy like this tried to sketch out an example and also i'd higher the hairline a bit because rn there could be trouble with being able to see the eyes + for a more natural shape try to add more volume to the top and less at the bottom @honest mural 
the blush effect is not allowed, you could make it a solid circle instead
I would like if you use the bun design as a front item as well maybe
this one looks a little odd
I think a rice cracker ๐ along with green tea would be fine enough with this japanese theme
The mouth is better but i think it should be elip like this
itโs just a sketch and i hope you get what i mean 
@woeful rock
hello im here again
@soft cliff Looks so cool
I think the 2nd verison of the shirt is better
(no outline)
The idea for eyes is amazing, but itโs a bit hard to see
In the first look, i just feel the eyes so weird 
And the way you draw color (split color) for the hair makes it hard.
Anyway, i really like your avatar idea
You can keep or change anything you want, itโs just my personal opinion 
Good job Perri 
@coarse sage any suggestion to the mouth?
I think the mouth is pretty good
Though he has really small arms
And if you are going to use the first one it has outlines around the green palm leaves
And maybe the weirdness of the eye can be helped with make the light blue darker
@soft cliff the current mouth is nice
but still doesnt have a complete shape.
But it maybe better when you work on .svg file 
Usually the insjdd of the mouth is darker than the tongue. And maybe make the cheeks transparent
@soft cliff you make the eyes bigger. But i dont prefer to add details in the eyes much. Really hard to see and looks weird 
@soft cliff the eyes are supposed to have a reflection right? Maybe make it more blurry/lighter to make it more realistic
;-;
looks awesome
@woeful rock Iโm not the biggest fan of her front item. The drink inside and the heat coming out of it are fine, but the cup itself doesnโt really match with the rest of the outfit.
@topaz silo me too 
Look so kuteee 
So cute!
@woeful rock i really like the eyes ( its seer eyes ๐)
@woeful rock i like you hair ฤฐt's very good 
You're welcome
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anyone got feedback for this? or name ideas ๐
oh btw the handle of the gun is fixed i donโt have a pic of that rn
@next talon you called it the tomb raider already right ๐
Make it the grave raider or something like that
hahah ok๐
Then it will be harder to notice
I know but it was just a suggestion
Nagini just like your other one, I don't think a lot of peeps like the mouth.. I do like it but they don't qwq
maybe treasure hunter, or gunslinger?
I do agree people seem quite picky about mouths
Looking good
Oh that looks very good but you can make the t-Shirt better
I mean something like that
Hey @soft cliff in my opinion first one is better
in this case this is the final version
Yea its good
I will present it now, if anyone have a suggestion are welcome
ty so much for the feedback
since its only 5 items right now, you could choose to add a bg or another front item?
it's cool but the hairline is really low
Hey I added more shading, how's this?
@atomic hearth
It has 6 items right?
Hair eyes, mouth, shirt, front item & gravestone
(:
@soft cliff sooo wasn't here a while xD
First of all, it reminds me of Holidays xD oof I want to have holidays again. I looks really cool and kinda "chilly"
But.... Since nothing is perfect, here is some feedback from me:
the coconut in the front could be placed lower, because like this it looks like the leaves are flying... That's kinda weird right? Why isn't the yellow thing not point to him?
the other way around it would look weird
If you look at the mouth and the coconut, then the mouths shape looks kinda weird. Especially the teeth.... If you smile, your teeth doesn't move xD also you could add some really light shading to give the teeth some structure and it's not just a white shape.
the eyes could be placed just a little bit higher and it's weird, that you mirrored it. The reason is, that if you look at something, the silhouette won't change the direction. Also mirrored highlights aren't in use that much anymore. M... Maybe you could make the black more greyish?
I'm not a fan of the hair shading and way of the gradient xD just my opinion, but you should make it more like the hair has structure.... Especially the gry part looks so weird... Like cut... The highlight in the hair is too whitish and the shading too dark, which makes it look like plastic...
@signal raft do you rework the bear?
Rework? Like as in remake it?
Well I did have an earlier design that I submitted but I realized it was probably not good enough
So I just remade a whole new design based on the previous one, this time using inkscape
I mean because you use the same items
oh yea
I didn't realize what a pain it was to convert it to vector until I had to trace it myself ๐
: P
I like vectorizing more than being creative myself lol
XD
@signal raft im loving the bear for sure
but maybe screw the tongue so it keeps the same widht but a smaller height.. and some darker colour around that part that gets "freed" cz in my opinion this tongue is seen from above instead of a more frontal vieuw which makes it look a little just a litte off/weird/confusing..
The hair its ok now?
What is this skin uhh
?
The body ๐
wth ??
@atomic hearth it had 6 items
hair eyes mouth t-shirt front item and gravestone
@hazy falcon ty for feedback and happy holidays๐
My Holliday is over xD but ty xD
oh there's 15:08
@quick harbor it's the default avatar
'-'
No i jk its cool
It's the body we have to use xD
Me. Createa line is already hard. Imagine a avatar :o
I need change more something?
You have 6 item?
Yes
I have the right to be honest?
Yes dude
I think that either it is too big (we see almost no arms say .. well, you understood what)
So I find it too big and a little less to expand i think
Idk.
Thats my idea. If you like that you can. Dont change. Its right
Its ok, If the mods think this its a problem i change ๐
and the mouth I think it would be necessary that you have it back aj environments to see it better ..
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The eyes i love.
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Really cool :)๐
Thanks bro
Ok ๐๐๐
Okay so xD can you make the hairline lower? Currently it's on the red line but could look better on the black one ๐
tbh i never use the actual template colour i usually use my own๐
Wow so bright! Maybe tone it down a little bit?
I like it so much tho
The eyebrows should be darker.
I still think the colors are too dark
Lips and eyes above all
Too light sorry
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but I think it combines so much ;-;
Maybe place the flowers lower?
Humm ok
Its ok or more lower? (cause i think If be more lower will be weird)
@quick harbor
I think the hairline is too high 
I think its omay
I've lowered it before, but if the mods want i down more

Lol "Just" designer, designer its coool
I think I already said, but her name is Heavenly Girl
i think the highlights of the mouth are placed a bit too high?
or maybe they're not, i can't really understand how it works
"Its too high" "I think its okay" jesus ๐๐ ๐ ๐ help
yeah i think the hairline is fine
the eye highlights are mirrored and the lower lip seems very thick? idk if thats supposed to be like that also maybe just make the eye hightlights white?
i really love the rest of the skin
All of it seems to light
@viscid surge
In My opinion, the eyebrow should be darker
Barley can see the lips tbh
Agreed
Should be sherry red
And blond/brown eyebrows
I'd tone down either the hair or the sun behind her because it's a little bright like this- Really love it though!

Ohh guuys thanks for the feedback โฅ๏ธ
;-;
Is it ok? ๐ฅบ
@hasty agate looks brilliant but i would make the horns? a bit more to the side of the head
I understood what the thorns were doing I'm guess you didn't.
Tbh the antlers should be a standalone hat and the hair should be standalone hair.
@hasty agate the shadow here looks a bit weird. It should be thin as the right shadow 
Heyaaa @hasty agate 
This is a very sweet start ^^
There are just some minor things that should get fixed
Like the hairline on the side of the bangs 
It gets too high up imo, try placing it a bit down
Also be careful with the antlers, they look good but right now they are like huuge
They will most likely get cut off in game and also they look a bit weird because of the proportions
I'd shorten them a bit and then make them a tiny bit bigger
As for the shirt, the chest part is too wide which makes the arms too thin, try scaling down the chest part so the arms get a bit thicker, that'd look better 
Also the golden parts on the shirt blend in with each other and look bland, how about adding some shading on them as well?
And if its gold it should also shine shine shinee 
So you could add some highlights aswell?
That's it until now
I really like the hairstyle and the idea that's going on, keep up the good work

Sincerely thank everyone. I will try to fix them

I was going to take the dark part on the left so that dark spot was bigger. If it's not really right, I'll fix it @coarse sage
@hasty agate hmm i dont know how is it with the big dark shadow 2 sides but maybe better than just 1 side 
That looks better
@hasty agate yep. Like that
Someone should try to make a banner cosmetic set!
wdym?
Why is the hair just floating
Why not?
I think the idea is that she moves suddenly so her hair is still moving
Because lots of avatars tried this but have been asked to changed
But anyways I think the guns need more detail
Like an outfit where whatever banner you have goes onto the outfit.
I don't know if the devs could do that
it would be cool if someone made a skin of Greta Thunberg
@quick harbor lol this made me laugh
=))
Looks good
What color should I draw to suit my hair and shirt? I am very bad at drawing eyes
Light green maybe? 
@hasty agate i prefer the old version of the shirt to this one 
I think they are both really cool
I have not fixed it yet ๐คฃ
@hasty agate hmm i think itโs a bit sad in her eyes and maybe better if you can make the eyes smaller.
I dont think this color is really fit with her. And can you make her become happier ? 
@coarse sage wrong ping๐
Omg haha, sorryyy
I still don't know what color to draw to suit her eyes @coarse sage
Do u like mine
That's good ๐คฃ๐คฃ @topaz silo
@hasty agate maybe yellow and white. Or light blue
@topaz silo i like it but the eyebrow looks a bit manly (?) 
Manly?
I have toruble with em do u think they shoild be smaller and less arched
Should*
Ah yup haha wrong type
@coarse sageI will try to draw them. Thank you
I have drawn these eyes once, maybe this color?
@quaint bison it looks a bit dark. But i like it 

Done
@quick harbor the๐งฃ should be lower. It will look better 
I still think green would suit better๐
@coarse sage I wanted it to look like it's flying around him
But such a green
Yeah sorry. Im going to answer everyone
@quick harbor it will look more reality if itโs lower but just keep it if you like 
@hasty agate the eyes look to me like boys eyes now. Maybe shorten the eyebrows a bit?
Yeah that is, look like boysโ eyes ๐
Maybe add some long eyelashes 
But I love the hair and the shirt ๐
Me too
the hair and the shirt look really nice
Thank u ๐ฅฐ
:>
and I want the antlers so bad
Itโs antlers right?
Iโm fudging bad at this
Like that fifth one. It looks like domestic antlers. Haha ๐คฃ๐คฃ
I just thought and drew a girl from the sea with deer antlers. ๐คฃ
My English is very bad so I can't explain it clearly to you. Sorry @quaint bison

@quick harbor maybe make the shiny eye thing transparent?
and add shadowing in the hair
I turned this in so
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Hopefully this qt makes it to #dev-vote
||hawt||
The lines seem pretty wobbly, what program/app do you use? 
@still mirage hey I know I'm late imao. But I just wanted to say, that there are already earrings like this in game. And btw I really love this idea/style
ibisPaint has recently invented a bezier tool
Idk what that is
You should try that and make your lines a bit cleaner
Lemme show you where to find it
I think my lines are pretty clean
they're missing a bunch of pixels around the hat and mask imo
They're clean indeed, but wobbly in some spots
Please don't take this to be rude, I think it's a cute design
Ok
I just cleaned up the lines on the left side real quick, see the difference?
@topaz silo
Oh u mean the shading
I meant to do it like that
I thought u were talking about the edges
Also the edges
Both
The shading is fine like that as well but the lines more straightened would definitely take the design to another level 
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I would prefer the eye highlights not to be mirrored๐
And maybe make the inside of the mouth darker
Both cute 
Do you think they're missing or bad at something? I will fix them
I drew a slightly striped shirt. If it's too hard to look, I'll make it darker @near grove
Both male and female shirt can use some darker shadows
^
@hasty agate heyyyyy ^^ I know it's pretty late for my feedback, but ye..... Even if it's probably not that good....
I really like this design and for the start its just awesome! Like seriously it's so beautiful.
the horns look so much better than before and I see real improvement ^^
In my opinion the eyes still look weird. That's probably because the eyebrows are blue? Why are they blue? Also the pupil is not in the middle or like this. That makes it kinda looks like it's looking to the nose.... Bot eyes xD the reason why Jin pointed out the highlights is, because it's not forbidden, but not used anymore ^^
for the girls short, I would add some more shading, especially on the fur thing, if you know what I mean.
i am blue da ba dee- okay sorry
Also i agree, the mirrored highlights make eyes look cross-eyed ๐
Really like the design tho 
got nothing more to add
The ringe dinge ding dong song?
I made a shadow but it doesn't seem bold enough ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Any feedback?
Tournament design 
I like it but it looks weird but I still like it.Itโs like an horror movie.
Also with that background is difficult to see the cat (I didnโt even noticed it in the first picture).
I have 2 mouths I canโt choose lol
I prefer 2nd one but itโs just an opinion
personally, i like the first one. it gives it a personality you know?
first one
Well canโt you add both?๐ค
@next talon I WANT THE OLD SHIRT BACK
THIS CAT IS HOLY
Also @next talon why are all of your outfits (at least all the ones I saw) female?
wack

I really love it @next talon for two reasons: your unique style and the horror theme
But leave the old shirt pls
I wanna keep to 6 items so both gender wont go and idk Iโm better at drawing females than males I guess @mossy shore
Ok ok old shirt back lol what hair is better? Or should I do another color
Brown hair for sure
Btw the nose in which category will be?Because if it goes in mask then there 7 but if it goes in mouth thatโs not a mouth @next talon
Well, cant nose be part of the mouth?
Nose will go with mouth I guess
I've seen cheeks be part of mouth category
I see no reason why nose shouldn't be there๐ถ
the bunny has a nose too in mouth categorie
i think iโll just submit it how it is now
Yeah also the bunny
@next talon Hmm i love the purple hair but yeah it makes it too colourful, and would be hard to mix n match with
Perhaps the teal colour on the shirt could match more with the hat?
And idk if its intentional, bt it kinda lookes like she is wearing a jacket, with a bare chest
This better?
I like this colour arrangement much better, for the shirt :)
Btw @next talon what are exactly these pink spots in the shirt?
I was right. Too much blue. But i love it when the hair have the same colour like the eyes. Maybe change the blue/tourquise in the hat item. Maybe to this orange from the shirt
Looks like it's supposed to be like an it theme thing but seems odd
Shirt needs more details
Imo
The last hat looks weird tbh
What seems odd
The first hat is better in my opinion
Is it supposed to be clown?
I guess
reminds me of it๐๐
Sorry my mind is somewhere else
Yeah it has the same eye mark's and a very similar mouth
I've seen it somewhere then
Maybe not it
Anyways I need to work on my new project have no clue how to start tho
Wait no the girl mouth is also based from ref, the boys mouth I did myself lol confused much
I've only seen a girl
Anyway this outfit giving me headache Iโll continue another time
ty everyone for the help 
cool concept but the hairline looks too sharp and has a odd shape, the color of the flying hair is too different from the rest of it and the eyes might be too small
also, the length of the hair isn't symmetrical
Thank you^^ gonna adjust (or try at least) what you suggested apart from the difference in colors between the regular hair and the longers ones, I did that on purpose and I like how it is
Is the eyes' distance cool or needs to be a tiny bit wider?
Cool, remember me Ghetsis from pokemon black and white
Yes, that's what is inspiring me๐
it doesn't look bad but doesn't look like fur
Yeppers, thatโs my thought. The same as ctabbโs. It doesnโt really look like a fur but it fits well in the outfit, making it look more elegant and fancy. I personally like and would keep them as items and a part of the outfit as they are at the moment.
I'll try to make them like the fur more ๐๐
Perf!
@hasty agate the shirts look really good ^^
Pls make the alpha werewolf avatar good and completley a wolf, not just wolf ears...
@pure topaz it's the designers choice, and it has to be different. The designer chose to make it like this and that means it is like this ๐๐
@hasty agate with the lips of the girl, they aren't really visible so can you darken them a little bit?
It does not fit the game? ๐คง @pure topaz
@quaint bison ๐ i'll do it รขgin
*again
Thx 
And I love the hair and everything just so much qwq
@hasty agate the eyes highlight is still mirrored instead of same directed
I think everything, except for the orbit, is mirrored
Ye the pupil ๐
The eyebrows? Is it ok?
Why are they blue?
To look better with the eyes? Idk
Yess ๐๐
if they are blonde or black to match more with other outfits as well ^^
and with this one, since eyebrows usually have the same colour as hair
So I think I should redraw the eyes are black @atomic hearth
Some weird dots
1% 
light mode users cant relate
hello againnn
have a great day
any suggestion about how to shade the hat?
@soft cliff maybe redo the hair shading because to me it looks a bit weird. Same thing with the shirt, because you can just have one colour shading and you won't have to darken it like that. And how big the shading is, looks like it's more than 10 cm away from the shirt so make it a bit less big. For the rest I have nothing to say
Hat's too bad. Right?
@soft cliff what is the expression you want to get with eyebrows? Because it looks a bit weird.
My english so bad ๐คฃ
@hasty agate well, eyes look bad to me
Reminds me of my old mime
They are too sharp, and too distant
@shrewd mirage the shading on the shirt is pretty harsh. So either pick a lighter colour for shading or use a midtone and draw big shapes.
The shape of the eyes is also a bit weird. But I donโt know if you did that on purpose
I still don't know how to draw beautiful eyes @Pumpkin#7295 ๐ฆ
@hasty agate your other skin's eyes look good :)
@hasty agate this bit looks a by odd. I can see some gradients though and they are not allowed๐ฌ also the highlights on the gold and blue at the tips of her hair are on the other side compared to the eyes๐
Move the eyes closer is my biggest issue
I worded that terribly
Pumpkin already mentioned that๐
I can still say it to enforce the feedback
Some people ignore it when only 1-2 people say something
I know, I just wanted to say that someone already said that and anh responded to that
How do you draw like that?
Yes I am aware @quick harbor
Are there any layout to create these?
@quick harbor look in the pinned messages all the info you need will be there. Including apps that most designers use and the design guide saying what and what not is allowed
Ok my guy
the purple girl, could use shading on the shirt and hair
and in my opinion, the eye is a bit too much tilted
If you want more specific tips you'll have to wait for someone who actually designs stuff though ๐
I know I know but I'm lazy I want to share it like this
i like the ideas !
Is not rude @atomic hearth is your opinion xD anyway i wanna share it
@quick harbor for the pure one
Eye: itโs too close to the middle. It needs to be more on the left
Mouth: I would suggest to draw your own shape and make those lines come from the corners of the mouth
Hair: can use more shading. It lays a little flat on the head. So more volume and shading
Hat: I think itโs on the big side and a little too much in the middle. I would prefer it more on the side
Shirt: can use more shading and the bows shading should be more like the bow on the head.
Background: the lines seem to go to a random place. Maybe make them go the same way on both sides
Now I will do elscarex first and then the other design you made๐
I appreciate everything but I've seen worse drawings in #dev-vote only want share it ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
@opal totem ok so here we go
Eyes: look nice! Just the highlights are mirrored which I prefer them not to be
Hair: interesting shape. Maybe try using a more lighter colour so you can do some shading. Same for the black parts of the shirt
Shirt: can use some more shading
Question: are the horns part of the hair or are they hat? And what is the purple stripe in the hair?
The horns should be connected to it then I think
@hazy falcon yes totally
Yes my other account
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@quick harbor I made the eye shape because I cant mane better eyes...
@quick harbor can you prove it?
@jade badge you say that's your second account? ๐
I would say to try looking if you find an eye style in vote you like and try something similar @shrewd mirage but donโt copy
@hazy falcon yes
Hello min min๐
And thats already my 3rd try...
Btw @hasty agate the hair cant go behind the back because hair layer is above shirt layer and it would weirdly cut off shirts 
@quick harbor didn't I ask @jade badge? ๐
Then its okay ^^ we just already some persons, which stole designs and that's totally not okay.
@shrewd mirage art is a process of a lot of trying and experimenting untill you make something you like
@hazy falcon ๐คก๐คก๐คก
You can just draw your own ones, but can use these as reference
Yeah thats what I meant
@quick harbor v4 eyes
Mirrored highlights ๐
Yes
Wdym?
@shrewd mirage what is that game?
What game
@shrewd mirage I want to remind you of the other times we're we gave you feedback to the design ๐
It's cool to design, but the feedback we gave you before is still partly valid. The you really improve things, but ye.... I will rework my feedback from months ago, since I think it can be better described ^^
For the hat, I still think it is Linda egy and too small for the whole head. If you look at the round and the other part, the round part is just as big as the head, even if the other part should be like this.
The brown lines around the eyes looks like outlines and I would change it. The brown color also doesn't fit as eyelashes and only black eyes + mirrored highlights still look extremely weird....
The hair looks a little bit messy, yes it's supposed to look messy, but I would remove some stains and make them thinner to the tips. Especially because if it's smaller in game, it will just look extremely weird.
The shading is not suitable and should be go into the direction of the hair, it's also too hard to see...
The eyebrows are really... Big.... Pls make them thinner, since the eyes are already extremely small. They are probably too high placed too. If this is the case, the hairline is also too high
I would prefer if you could make the beard smaller and not that big...
Outlines
These are not outlines
Thats how the shirt thingy looks like
Hyde still doesnt like the rat tail...
I removed the "it looks like a big furry rat tail" part oi xD
Do you need to use autocad to design the outfit?
Autocad? @hasty agate
I dont know. My friend told me that @quick harbor
Well if I donโt know about it you probably donโt have to. Or I have been doing everything wrong ๐
What do you think so far?
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I think this so beautiful
great ideas
@quick harbor the background doesn't really look like it's part of the avatar....
@hasty agate I saw your design, and I really think you show great potential ๐ I dont think you should revise the color of the eyes/eyebrows, the blue hues make your outfit look mythical overall and I'd say that making them match the hair color will lose that characteristic
@hazy falcon I donโt know what colours to use. Because I canโt use the ones of the octopus on the head because those blend in with the hoodie
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@wanton hamlet
I changed the background to a plain colour
@opal totem it's a really good start and stay optimistic ^^ it's awesome and nothing is perfect so don't give it up! Just improve and work on it.
First of all. The hairs color is really nice, but the shading too dark in this case this makes it look messy ^^ maybe you could add different shading? Less lines... More like different shapes ^^ this could give it more structure.
The eyes look kinda big and kinda like there us gradient. On this point, I want to point out this awesome iris 0.0 I'm in love with it. Just the mirrored highlights are annoying xD Why don't you try to make everything with the same kind of drawing. Clearer lines etc. Yes this may tale longer, but working on something is more fun than just doing it half hearted ^^ if you look at the... Is it make up? Then I would make it lighter...
For a girl the eyebrows are too big ^^ I would prefer them in thinner and maybe a lighter black?
The shirts shading looks more like lines than shading and the color doesn't fit in with the blue. Maybe you can make the hair less blue? More purple ble yk? And the hors should be on and not behind the head ^^
All in all cool design and work on it ๐
The drawing is just an idea
Sowwy
Is bad
It's fine x
I've been very slow when working on this outfit but any feedback? Yes ik the hair isn't the best I'm working on it still ~.~ I just procrastinate on shading hair. For a front prop I was thinking of a doll, but there was a doll in an older bp ๐คท I was also thinking of doing a fireplace as a background.
And I'm gonna shade the green a bit more I think..
oo looks v cute
@median briar just a suggestion, but maybe make the hat bigger or make it tilted. Because it looks a bit weird placed in my opinion
I fixed the hair and the eyes size
How's the eyes distance?
Since they are rotated, they look kinda small and like this near to each other
The up part of the hair looks really flat compared to the lower part. Maybe try this?
@hazy falcon so what should I do?
@quick harbor ok, I'm gonna try ^^
Or maybe I could make the lower part of the hair thinner (?)
Maybe the eyes a little tiny bit bigger?
And also.... Why Is the part where shadow is lighter? In the eyes?
@quick harbor you can try. Im not sure what will be better.
@hazy falcon wait, which part?๐ณ
The iris
The red is lighter in the shadow
Yep yep
It's a rework
@median briar for your elf, Iโd add a white ball to that hat like the shirt has. Iโm not sure if its already there because of the white background. ๐
@shrewd mirage for ur fancy dressed guy, I would move the clock away more from the center...it seems unnatural to be that close@to the center.
Sorry for late feedback yโall
@quick harbor Hi! I love your design, but the right bottom part of the hair has a lot more details than the left bottom part. Seems kind of strange, if possible could you try to make the shading a little more even?
Ehy, thank you!^^ Ok, I will try a better shading for the bottom part!
@quick harbor its an awesome design ๐ but i spotted a small thing.. you got a straight highlight on the octopus tentacle suction cups which are actually not flat but a little out of the skin.. for that reason it gives the octopus a little plastic feeling... but if that highligt would be around them it would.be a whole different story
@median briar the elf looks great! But the hear om the right could use a little bit more shadows as on the left.. and the hat maybe give the green pointy things a little more curl.. the side ones are fine but the frontal onse are really pointy a little shading could do wonders
@quick harbor the eyes do remind me of noctowl from pokemon.. maybe that could be some source for your "what should i do" question
You asked what you should do.. the drawing you made reminded me of noctowl so i though if you are stuck maybe looking at that could help you further
@quick harbor btw noticing another thing.. the inner eye part the dark red on the bottom.. is mirrored shouldt that just as the highlight be the same direction
@quick harbor youre welcome.. it will take time to improve but based on your skills you're almost there cz dude you've got some skills
@topaz silo I tried adding a white ball but it looks so akward in the middle of the curl @hard garden do you mean ear?
Alr ๐
Thanks for your kind words :) Sure!
I will see real improvements when I'll switch to a tablet for sure
@median briar no i meant hair ๐ the ears are fine ๐
Im tired of my small phone lel
@hard garden oh yes I thought I explained that I wasn't even close to done with it yet so I thought it was something else ๐ but yes it does need more shading as I've procrastinated at it, most things need more shading I just hate it so much so it's been put off ๐
@median briar np I actually hadnt read that entirly only fast and globally.. missed that part ๐ so well in that case.. ignore what i said about the hair ๐
@hard garden no no it's fine a gentil reminder is good 
Can my avatar idea have a different skin color? Just asking before I start
at the moment it isnt possbible, but you could make the face as a mask item
there is an alien ingame, head as mask so yeah exacrly like i said ^^
feedback on this?
Disgusting
It's not.
some skins might not be for everyone
in the circled parts, its hard to see the colour difference
or it might just be the quality of the ss
mm i just noticed I sent the wrong picture
rip
lmaoo
Seems better
thats better :D
maybe consider changing the hand colour to a darker colour
bc it blends in with the shirt a bit
or add some shading to make it pop from the shirt
I love it so much ;w;
It's as almost as cool as @reef karma
That's scary af
@ruby tapir does the purple hat in #dev-vote follow the art style? It's an amazing hat but I looked like there are slightly gradients through out it
@rigid flax I think they've already discussed about it and confirmed no gradient is present
^^
^ if you look closely, its just a bunch of shades
@hasty agate looks really nice ^^ but the eyes dont look at straight way 
Replied 
@hasty agate the hair canโt go behind the back
@rigid flax if you mean the had of my genie... its just 3 different colours no gradient in there
@hard garden could you point out where the straight highlight on my design is. Because I canโt find jt๐
@quick harbor sure, these are the highlights i meant
Those highlight go right over the suction cups but should go around it as they are "higher" than the other parts around it
@hard garden so the highlights shouldnโt go over them?
Yes thats what i mean
If anything goes wrong. I will fix them
Oh :))
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@hard garden are the highlights better?
@hazy falcon is background better?
@hasty agate I donโt see anything that should be fixed right now
@hasty agate i'd make the shirt go smaller ar the arms because right now the arms are too small 
And i'd scale down the front item because it's like veryyy big right now
Other than that, love it 
@quick harbor yes its better ๐
@quaint bison haha yeah i noticed sadly its not going into the right direction with those numbers ๐
:c
@hard garden donโt get discouraged by the numbers. #dev-vote is weird. There sometimes isnt really logic at all. Just keep going if you enjoy drawing
@quick harbor i wont be but its only sad to see this ratio i really hoped to get it in but guess thats not gonna happen with this design
I know the feeling
@hasty agate I don't like the eyes, I don't know how to call it in English, so I'm going to say that in Vietnamese : Mแบฏt nhรฌn cแปฉ nhรฌn kiแปu nhฦฐ bแป lรฉ รญ. ฤแบทt biแปt con mแบฏt trรกi, nรณ nhรฌn lรฉ lรฉ. Bแบกn chรฌnh lแบกi ฤi. Ngoร i ra thรฌ mรฌnh thรญch lแบฏm 
@quick harbor ๐ i will fix it. Tks u @somber bronze
Ay you have now 100-71
talking about ratings.. i caught this one in a perfect 2:1 rate
My old one Is like that
Recently went up tho
I have like 4 collabs with a 2:1 rate I think rn
Might be three
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Totally didnt remove my like to get the photo also ๐
Dont worry i put it back ๐
@quick harbor oh I loved it when the hair was black and inky
@quick harbor thats way better than my score my previous submission is stuck at 268:228
Yeah voters in vote are unpredictable
@rigid flax Lighze did something similar to that so I wanted to tey soemthing else
So my connection is really bad and I can't share it to my phone so I took a picture. I got a little adventurous with way of shading and highlights, thoughts on it please? And if you think it's a good style but would look better in a different way pls tell me. And yes I would put this shading style on the entire outfit if people like it ^^ 
@median briar loving this future clan quest
@median briar im loving it. It gives an aditional depth in it
my first design so far
ok
Hey can someone give me advice for hair, I'm really struggeling with that
Im not the best with hair; Id ask Ann ๐
i can give you some in dms if you want to! @quick harbor
Sure, that'd be awesome
So if I ever need advice with making jackets I'm gonna hit you up ๐
Alright ๐
And honestly this design is adoreable
Ty :3
Well i stopped designing for awhile bc of lack of motivation and inspiration but today i just scrolled through vote and saw some veryyy old stuff and i just needed to try something with it/remake it so i just did but i only got hair, mouth, eyes and shirt and have no ideas for the rest๐
So if anyone got ideas hmu 
Feedback is also welcome
only wanted to show it of somewhere๐
@somber bronze is she a vampire? Or
No clue what she is tbh ๐
Tho true she does look like a vampire
gasp i'm in love
@somber bronze Iโd go for vampire look and add fangs. The front item would be a pet bat.
she already made one like that some time ago www
also min i love the way you make shirts ;;
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@somber bronze I remember the original ๐ good job on recreating the dress and how about an accessory like a bow/pin on the left side of the hair?
rip ๐ฆ
yup true, i got that one
while i love vampire aesthetics, it would be great if this could just be a pretty fancy lady without fangs tbh
Hopefully there will be a frog outfit in game soon :)))
maybe a hat with a mesh veil in front of the face?
U right unicron
U could give her like a big fan if you want as a front item im not sure if there is something like that yet
i started a hat like that for my first design,,,,
i should remake it wwww
In the sketch it seems like if the hair is back of the ear and thatโs not allowed
@quick harbor. It seems really cool and I like that eyes ๐
Im no designer, but i am pretty sure hair can be behind the ear like that
that rule only applies to the neck, as far as I always understood it ๐ค
It should be allowed because behind the back would be if it goes really behind it.... XD best description
only behind body isnโt allowed bc that might clash with shirts, ears donโt have that problem
Yes we have some hair styles with the hair behind the ear
the reason why hair canโt go behind the body is because the hair layer is in front of the body and shirt, so if u make a hairstyle go โbehindโ your designed shirt it will look ok but will crop off other shirts that are bigger. since ears are the same in every outfit ofcourse it doesnโt matter if the hair goes behind it, there arenโt different shape ears. hope that makes sense it took me a while too to understand it
That makes sense thanks
Opinions on this please? 
(I haven't shaded yet, I'm horrible at shading)
I already said I hadn't shaded ๐
Thanks for your concern, anyway
eyes seems a bit close together or maybe it's bc they're big, i can't tell
@burnt apex Removing the hair, I relised it, yeah, the eyes were so close. Can you take a look at this and see if it's improved?
yeah that looks better!!
Thanks ๐ ! Any other feedbacks about other items?
The shirt looks a bit weird to me...
Hello, Yes.. I'm very lazy
@quaint bison Where is the weird parT?
Thatโs cool
Where's the weird part?
@reef karma awesome
For the skeletons.... Maybe you could use less opacity for the red/yellowish parts
@reef karma the last one really reminds me of that girl from hotel transylvania, maybe get some ideas from that?
Mavis?
yes i think ahah i havent seen the movies just some parts on tv
Question, so I notice we have an outfit ig for almost all the roles but do we have a gunner outfit?
I guess no 
we have a very very old clan quest gunner
and there is one in vote i believe
but you can always make new ones ofcourse ^^
i cant imagine which 
Just, I donโt like the shirt
@coarse sage ๐
Cant settle for an eye colour so imma just post the ones i can't decide inbetween to ask which one you prefer 
bottom left for me!
Same here ๐
Same 
Top right is rly beautyfull
ye id say top right too ๐
Rip top left and bottom right
Top left!
The blue & purple dont match with the outfit. Imo
bottom left or right
Bottom ones look better to me ^^
i like top right
Bottom
Why so small 
Any feedback and/or theme ideas?
@next talon I like it
but I'd add more hair
Oh and the white points on the eyes don't really make sense to me
It is a really nice start. But i dont see a full theme yet. The eyes look like they are looking up tbh so maybe change that. I agree with pumpkin too, add some more hair.
No because you don't have layers if I'm correct
You can check the best apps to design here in pinned massages
its what i use for most things
If you can draw outfits in it you can use it
Then you can use
Btw more hair where? On head or the tail thing
Tail ^^
Okii
@granite sparrow i know many designers which use paint.net so it's definitely suitable don't worry
ok
Third try snake girl Iโm not giving up lol howโs this
I'd pay for the snake aloneโบ
should i add the hat or do a front item (6 items)
or snake mouth maybe
iโll try something later gotta make dinner now brb
See yaa ^^
Which one is better? Or neither
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@next talon I don't know what it is but I always love the eyes, mouth/ mask and background of your characters
Is this lip shading ok
thats cause she's an amazing artist with an unique and beautiful style

Yusss looks good to me! 
oh wow i love this armour/shirt a lot
Agree, her style is unique, always said that :)
Yโall too kind๐
and the eyes are beautiful, you always pick interesting and unique colours ^^

im gonna hate trying to combine them wth anything though
Maybe make the lips a tiny bit thinner?
@next talon gonna be mean again๐:
Eye + hair highlights left and lips are right๐
And I canโt really see which side the snakes highlights are
I'm in a mid life crisis someone help
yes i know what a mid life crisis is and yes ik it isnt what i am experienced but you get the point so play along!!!!
Should i settle for rich lady with hat or fairy princess?
hair is just a wip uwu looks to close to the reference right now but you get it :D
Donโt let me change the snek pls that took me like 4 months
Min why donโt u make it red lady?
And then with the first
@next talon itโs your choice and I think you can keep the snake like this since itโs not mega obvious where the highlights are
i really would like to have more hats, pls make the first one โค
Any feedback ?
What!!!
Lips and mask is possible





