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It's not allowed to reveal Easter eggs since they are a secret and hidden ๐
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You can find it! I'm sure ^^ good luck
What This spรฉcial offer
The special offer is the cyborg ^^
I just want the play Can make kaneki
As I told you, it's copyrighted. You have to use existing avatar items
You won't be able to have a replica of that character in the game, but you could design your own avatar that contains similar characteristics to that character.
Hi all
@zealous dawn Heya if you are just looking to chat with people, try #wov-chat for wwo talk, or #off-topic for random stuff
The avatar and role ideas channels are only for giving those suggestions and feedback on them
Did you guys think about different zodiac sign characters for a 12 pack or something?
What do you mean exactly> There is only 12 zodiac signs
There are 12 outfits for 12 zodiac sign
And the background pack, including 12 zodiac sign
yup im following so far
so you mean, making the full outfits into a special pack as well? with a random 1/12 zodiac outfit?
Tbh i think that would cause some confusion, but i believe there was a fb suggestion/vote to add them seperately in the outfit shop, sothat might happen
Where do you go if you have an emote idea?
Only if it is related to the battle pass theme ^^
If you wanna suggest new emotes i'd say... #feedback-readonly would maybe be the best place for that
Okay thanks guys 
You're welcome 
We need more long haired boy avatars ig ๐ค
you can also use 'female' hair for that, youre not limited by what they are labeled as
Like a set included. Users automatically assume its a female when female hair is attached
I'm talking about a full avatar set with the male version with long hair. It's pretty rare in wwo
the battlepass has the long hair ponytail and there was another special offer thing with prety long hair for both as well
Like I said, it's rare
and we cant really change how people assume the gender of avatars based on the hair they choose
you should be able to use any combination you want
You're not getting my point. That's exactly why I'm advocating for complete sets that include long hair for male avatars. It's just more obvious and indicative that way
@wanton hamlet do you have an ifea for an item set with long hair then? Because maybe I could try something. But I donโt really havr an idea how it would look
I have a few doodles about it, lemme share quick
It doesn't even have to be too long. Medium length is still adaptable for men too
I'm planning on making an avatar on the first one
Good luck for it and nice doodles 0w0
thanks Hyde ๐
We are here if you need feedback ๐
Ahaha lowkey scared of feedback but I'll post it here when I'm midway finished
everyone here is nice so don't be scared ^^ we just want to help
that is copyrighted, and minecraft style doesnt fit wth the wwo style
Big Smart
I hear copyright ๐
sees min typing for several minutes
Me : aight imma head out
this chat has been so dead lately,,, anyone who is seeing this message
Don't worry about being "too bad" to design something, we all start of... well... not rly very great 
But people here, and also in designer club which is in #partners btw๐๐, are willing to help you and it's always a pleasure seeing new designs!
No matter if they are """good""" or """bad""" the more styles we've got in creating designs by different people the more fun it'll be in-game!
So never, in like ever say or think you're too bad for creating avatars for the game, just give it a try and maybe it turns out to be great fun for you 
Don't be scared to show off your stuff either, as we will only give constructive feedback for you to develop further!!
If you're too scared to show it off in public yet you can join dc, and dm a design support+ for feedback in their direct messages ๐
Or simply a helper here,,, i would really love seeing new designers joining the team

okay p r e a c h of friday โ

Can I pin? @ruby tapir
No need to thank! 
worth it lurking for several minutes XD
the reason is why the designers keep getting better too so they keep it so the starting ones dont get anything becouse the designers are making skins for a long time
When I read this I wanted to say, please pinn. But you were faster๐
nobody needs English grammar
If anyone needs ideas for outfits lemme know all i want in return is a code if its added๐
yes you can post some pictures as example, for wht you like to see
just keep in mind, we cant have outfits based on movie and game characters etc because of copyright
if you dont post too much at once, you can
and maybe it helps if you also describe a bit, why you like them
so the desginers understand what you are looking for
@mossy shoal now Iโm curious what your idea is๐
i made the highlights thicker and simplified some other things, what do you think?
@burnt apex maybe simplify the hat a bit more. Like less stars and the ones you have make them bigger?
ping if you need me
like this?
I think the Stars on the left Side (hat Item) are a little Bit to big. Maybe make 1 or 2 Stars a little Bit smaller
Like more variety in size
Is it just me or are the eyes far away from each other?
I think they are at the right place๐ค
@hazy falcon bcuz of the hair u see it like that
Could be
Imo they really are too far away from each other but the hair makes it look like they arent 
Yeah they need to be a little closer
Which shirt is better? And some other feedback on the outfit would be useful too 
2nd
Hair seems a bit big
Is the rim and net the background for the avatar? (If so it is way to big compared to the size of the ball
Maybe make the ball a bit bigger
Well the thing about the hair being to big is it's supposed to be curly.. I've decided it's not obvious but I really do like the waves and poof anyway :( so I'm kinda at a loss
@quick harbor I agree I like the 2nd shirt too it looks better with the rest because the first isn't so detailed
The eyes look too big
i actually was going to sleep now buttt
Hey @median briar
First of all, great development! ^^
I - however - still think the lines on the hair should be a bit thicker and darker in order for them being visible in game ๐
As for the shirt, i'd also prefer version number two
I agree about the front item too, it should be bigger because right now it looks like a baby basketball with a very big hoop
Also as for the hoop,,, have you considered putting it either behind her instead than like this on the side? Because it firstly will look weird with different screensizes and also the lines are a bit too thin on it too
I think the hair could be a tad slimmer on the left side our left side as it looks like you intended to make a side parting to the left side so there should be more hair on the right than on the left ^^
As crushium said already,,, the eyes still are a tad big, try to scale them down a bit more and maybe tilt them a bit less downwards
As for the freckles, they are better now but i'd suggest making them a redder colour or a like 40 pc opacity dark brown/black to be seen more ^^
Overall i really really love your changes and can't wait to see the final result
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Thank you so much for everyone who's helped me improve ๐ it means the world to me
@somber bronze how do I add the basket ball hoop behind it well? I don't know if you'll see it and I'm worried it will look akward ๐
@median briar somehow like that maybe?
Also you're very welcome
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i'll get to bed now, just ping or dm me whenever you need me 
sorry momma i will
@median briar I WANT THAT HAIR, that's literally my hair ๐๐๐๐๐๐
I really like that hair as well
Overthought an old idea and redraw it. My theme is "big brother" maybe you know the sentence "big brother is watching you"
I'm working together with a friend and I wanted to share it๐ the mask is ready. Maybe I'll add some earrings
@lone cedar maybe do less eyes and make them a little bigger. Becausr right now the mask is really busy and if it would get in game the details would get lost
I like the idea of the shirt๐
Uhh thank you
What should I add? ;-; I've never done
@woeful rock i think the eyes are a bit big and close together
And I would suggest to add some shadows to the shirt
The hair seems fine to me
Oh! Thank you ๐ @quick harbor
I love the hair ๐
@woeful rock that looks great! ^^
If it's your first time doing this,, wow!!!
Okay so first off the hair looks very good,, but we usually don't use pure black in-game but more of a really really dark grey which we call artificial black ^^
Just looks a bit better than pure black, i'd suggest you to use that instead!
Also i'd think it would look better if the right our right side would be a bit more filled in
However,,, i like the eyes but they are too tilted and a bit too high
They aren't too close to each other; the tilt makes it look like they are tho๐
I would suggest to also change the hair colour to match with the rest because; first of all we already got many purple eyes and second of all purple doesnt really fit the mediterranean idk if thats the right word or either grounded colour scheme! ^^
I'd suggest making the eyes something around olive green, brown, orange or yellow ๐
For the shirt, like jin already said, you should add a bit more shading and also the buttons should be either in the middle of the straps that go around the shoulder in order to make it more realistic
As well i would suggest you to make the yellow shirt go a bit straighter down at the end of the arms
Other than those minor issues this is a very cute and nice start! ^^
Keep up the great work๐ 
in the pinned messages are the avatar templates and the day background, you can download them and draw on those if you didn't already do it๐
@somber bronze it doesnt look pure black becausr of the highlights/I donโt think it even is pure black
Even in full screen brightness it looks like pure black and i checked it in medibang and to make it look less like pure black the highlights need to be darker
I'd say the eyes have to be a bit lower and smaller :3
thought? And help me with the idea of background and front, and the color of the mask
Im still working on it but i hate to color and idk how to draw the eye
@mint scarab what is the theme/mood you want?
Also try to not use a pure black but an artificial black (mins words)
Ping me once your done typing
i guess the theme is that he is finding himself (the x) at first my idea was super clear and now i dont even know what am i doing the butterfly show that he may find the missing piece, a ritual, a little elegance, delicate inside him 
i didnt know what color to use so i just use the black ๐
@quick harbor
Okay im going to write you some feedback. Give me some time
I've solved. Do I have to fix more? ;-;
The eyes are a bit too far apart in the 2nd one from what i can see
2nd eyes are better tho
Just bring them closer as crush said
@mint scarab you can use a black like melon uses for the hair.
Hair: I like the red colour. Though you need to work some more on the shading and add some hair just above the hairs. If you need help with the shading just ask.
Shirt: maybe change the red colour to the same colour as the haur.
Eyes: they are too low and too big in my opinion. You can look at eyes in vote if you dont know how to make them.
Maybe for background a garden? Because of the butterfly. Or some smoke/mist because he is lost?
Thanks for the feedback!
@woeful rock the eye highlights are mirrored and I prefer them not to be. And as crush and night said you can move them slightly closer to each other. The highlights in the hair donโt really make sense to me since they are really round. Also you can make that grey slightly darker.
I only now see that there are gradients in the eyes, which arenโt allowed๐ฌ
And the shirt can still use some extra shading in my opinion. Because the overall thing causes a shadow on the yellow shirt
@woeful rock i prefer the firsr eyes as they fit the colour scheme more! ^^ just remove the gradient and add a darker pupil into them!
@woeful rock hair canโt go behind the back. The eye highlights are mirrored which I prefer them not to be but thats your. Choice. Also the hair can use some more shading. I really like the hat and shirt though
I think I don't have talent in this field. ๐
@woeful rock nooooooo. I really like it.
Nononono dont think that!!!
You have got awesome potential, your ideas just need a little bit more fine tuning but seriously your work is amazing!โค
I love that shirt and the hat sooo much and i dont want your potential to get lost just because you think you arent talented enough in this field! :(
I mostly stopped designing for the moment but if you want to you can dm me and we can work on this together!๐
Just dont give up
@woeful rock
Atleast dont give up for that reason! ^^
Also a lot of the designs in #dev-vote are made by people who already tried to make 10 designs. Everyone needs practice. And this is the best place (in my opinion) to improve becausr everyone is really nice
Thank you very much, I really thank you. ๐
you're welcome๐
If you'd consider designing more i would advise you to join the designer club! Its in #partners and a server fully dedicated to designing
You can apply for the designer role there and if you get accepted you'll be able to join our lovely little club chat!
There you can chat and improve in between experienced designers!
Avatar ideas here is a place with a bigger audience meanwhile designer club has a closer and littler one! 
I'd love to see you there but of course also here improving and developing your style and skillsโคโค
I'm happy to see some designers in here 0w0
Same 
Idk what that has got to do with my comment but
okay i guess?
Just tellin them what to expect
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This chat was also dead for like a week
Doesnโt keep people from going here and showing their worm
Yup๐
And there are people who dont post their designs here... so extra designs to look at๐
Plus i got a big project im gonna start
Heya if you got a problem with the server dm a mod of it about it,, or just dm me, but don't talk it down in public please! Thanks in advance ^^
hy- okay nvm i guess off to #bugs-readonly 
I love the pet on the shoulder on the first one
But i suggest you read the style guide as outlines are not allowed
Ima let hyde finish his essay now
her*
Its part of an ongoing joke
the "joke" is kind of 5 months old but ok
Thats why it is still ongoing
Hyde its been like 10 minutes
U ok?
Also i can still use the joke even if its old @somber bronze
Leaving here cause its getting off topic
Didn't say you can't but hyde might not rly like it so just make sure to also respect her feelings about it so yeah...
Me and hyde are cool if they didnt want it they would say so. I dont make jokes with people that dislike me or i dislike back @somber bronze
Hyde can take up to 30 min. With her gorgeous feedback
@signal wing Heya 0w0
This looks really interesting! Is it your first design? If yes wow 0w0
I hope you want some feedback ^^
Let's start with the first picture.
TheGrey thing on top of the head. I'm not sure, if it is hat or hair. In both cases, the eye layer is under it. Please check the layer order in the pinned messages (here is also the link to the message: https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/426721136701603840/504953531527331841) if I look at the second Pic, I think it should be hair ^^ maybe you can wir on it with shading so it looks more like hair? Like... Add "lines" as shading for it so it shows the hairs direction etc. For references for shading, you can check #dev-vote ^^ also as you may noticed, it looks like a helmet... Something... I think everything on the hair is too straight
you could make it more like the boys hair with some strains....?
The ears are really nice and look fluffy 0w0 in my opinion they are pretty big. That's just my opinion, but other designers can have another opinion ^^ I'm just not a fan of too big ears for my avatar
the shading in the ears isn't really right. If you want to shade them properly, the thing where the bottom of the ears (the part on the head) should be darker.
The eyes are really interesting, but too big and near to each other. They might fit with this design, but are pretty hard to combine with other outfits. Try to make them smaller and clean. The eyelashes as example look really messy drawn if you look at the other things :/
The earrings are... To high placed. You probably want to hide the weird ear shape, but it looks like they are in the middle of the ear.
The mask is pretty cool 0w0 nice idea, but how you drew it is pretty messy. An improvement idea: make the nose bigger
The cat on her shoulder is so cwute and is smiling! IT REMINDS ME OF BUGCAT SO I LOVE IT but,alao here could be mor details. The tail looks kinda weirdsinse its extremely thin at the bottom....
The short also needs more details and shading.
For the male version:
The same with the layers ^^ pay attention to it, since the devs will add it in this order. The mask layer above hair is right btw ^^
The hair looks more like hair, than the first one, but shading is missing again. The shading you placed looks kinda weird and don't really fit this hair style.
The eyes are too big again.
For the earrings... They don't fit again. I think you should look at real earrings, since they totally don't fall like this and it would really hurt, if you have them in the middle of the ears..... Outch xD
I like this mask even more like the other. Why don't you keep it for both versions?
Again: I love this animal xD
And also again: more details on the shirt.
The ears look kinda weird here.... The pink part is too small and the Grey part too big.
All in all: for a first design it is awesome! Omg! And even more it is awesome, that you started to design! I'm pretty sure, that you can do muuuuch more 0w0
Just a few ideas to improve: read the pinned style guide. Outlines are not allowed and also add more shading and details. Maybe you can pay attention so the lines are cleaner and not like many small lines so it has better effect ^^
Thank you for reading it! Don't worry ^^ I always write a whole feedback book 0w0
Holymoly, Hyde! I think thats a new record ๐
samu but๐
Huh?
As always xD
I just do it one step at a time๐
Also lemme know what i can do on our collab
Cause im stuck
The building dont look that good rn and im outta ideas
Ok i got u๐
I think the reasons the buildings look so bad is i have no idea how to shade it
@woeful rock heyyyyy ๐ maybe you're scared now xD because of the feedback above ;-; nuiuu
Your avatar is really cwute 0w0 do you have a topic? Or is it just random?
The hair is a nice hairstyle, but for me the highlights are too.... Thick? Like... They are round and pretty thick so you can obviously see they are just likes with a pen drawn and ye. The shading is too dark. And also the top trains you shaded are not really right.... It's as I said too dark. If I take the whole top part of the hair and ignore it, it looks much better. That's because of the strains and how you shaded it. You could also pay more attention to the shape of the hair on top 
The eyes are just cwute and I don't see anything ro change.
The shirt also looks really cool, but the bag.... It looks like an outline. Also the lines on the sleeves..... Tbh.... I would remove them. It does look really weird and doesn't fit ^^ add more shading
Oh I was definitely scared by your massive attention Hyde you're a walking terror
Especially when I'm having high doubts on the design I'm working on and the shivers of sharing it here ooo
And melon I also think you should have a definite theme your design revolves around. Your style is nice but without a specific theme it'd be hard to stand out
Wait I'm what!?
Lmao Hyde I was messing with you
;-;
I'm really scared, that I killed this chat since nobody sent deignes here anymore
Wow hyde..xD

@hazy falcon I will keep bugging you with my designs like im a cat๐
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@quick harbor 0w0 do it!
i like hyde's long feedback,,,
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i want to trace the bug cat
@burnt apex same!
No Stef! I do!
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@rancid shore no
Ping Pong ๐
The medieval knight ๐
Which skin ๐
the penguin has 6.something
@ruby tapir i cant get designer for that ?
auh i forgot cupcake
i should fix it to join #dev-vote auh lazy and busy
our blacksmith and fireman are better XD
@rancid shore yes more
I got 7 in vote
im not fan of cute theme :\
Im not either
@quick harbor do u want to make collab if i got free time for it ?
@tawny cosmos I continuously think you are hyde...
I got sort of free time
Idk if i have time but i will in the future
Same i was confused cause im collabing with hyde now
@quick harbor nuu im not cute as her 
I see copyrighted pfp ๐
I'm getting a Jekyll and Hyde vibe here
@woeful rock oooh i love the new eyes๐๐
same ^
๐คฉyes u r the cutest
Noooo
Hyde cutest of all
wrong chat tho
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Grrrrrr
๐คช๐คชthere should be cute girl avatar called hyde
but im busy and noob to do that
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Reeeeeeee
@quick harbor I made the eyes bigger๐
So many eyes 
Not enough๐
@quick harbor its enough eyes when the whole mask is yellow! 
Cool concept, but lower the upper bare torso please. I think the main two eyes on the mask with the rest surrounding it would look nice, but you can keep it the way it is now too

is this an australian spider?
but i actually like it. also smth new๐
Where can we DRAW AND MAKE our avatars? Have we got app or something else?
oh , thanks ๐
Basically everything you need is in the pinned messages ^^
The apps with whom you can design avatars, the style guide which shows you which style you need to use/which stuff to avoid while drawing wwo items and also the body template + both night and day backgrounds 
What about this idea from... few monthes ago ? What happened ?
I can't remember the designer
I dont know, the shirt looks a little unshaded, but i think we did get a similar shirt in another outit perhaps
This shirt looks like the one by la vie en rosรฉ by gavin, from which the final result in vote was a pretty different version from the one you sent here
Also i am pretty sure it's about 7 months old
might still be in the voting gallery with a ratio which isnt good enough to be in game as i did not see it in game yet,,,
also the designer of it stopped designing i guess? Or atleast left the server
I recognise the eyes ! They are in the white ww skin
A lot of talented designers that i saw in #dev-vote left.. makes me sad
I've been seeing many animal eared avatar ideas the past few days and theyre making me wanna make an avatar with animal ears too ๐ฑ ๐
The first, but a lirr bit darker
@vivid harness maybe you do not know that this from Gavin - a copy-cat designer. Some of his designed avatars have been ingame. But no one know that itโs not his ideas, he even copy 100% item of a game to draw on his avatar outfit. So, they (Kem and other designers i guess) need to remake it, to avoid copyright problems. It looks nice, but copyrighted.
what
So this avatar must have been copied too 7 monthes ago and for this reason, this avatar has been rejected ?
For this, i guess not because this reason. About 3 months ago, his designs were still added ingame (ppl havent known about his copied work that time)
@signal wing many points of my feedback are still there and now the boys mask layer does;t fit the order anymore....
` TheGrey thing on top of the head. I'm not sure, if it is hat or hair. In both cases, the eye layer is under the eyes and mask. Please check the layer order in the pinned messages (here is also the link to the message: https://discordapp.com/channels/414179354814185498/426721136701603840/504953531527331841) if I look at the second Pic, I think it should be hair ^^ maybe you can wir on it with shading so it looks more like hair? Like... Add "lines" as shading for it so it shows the hairs direction etc. For references for shading, you can check #dev-vote ^^ also as you may noticed, it looks like a helmet... Something... I think everything on the hair is too straight you could make it more like the boys hair with some strains....? The way you did it is weird...
The ears are really nice and look fluffy 0w0 in my opinion they are pretty big. That's just my opinion, but other designers can have another opinion ^^ I'm just not a fan of too big ears for my avatar the shading in the ears isn't really right. If you want to shade them properly, the thing where the bottom of the ears (the part on the head) should be darker.
The eyes are still too big and near to each other. They might fit with this design, but are pretty hard to combine with other outfits. Try to make them smaller and clean. The eyelashes as example look really messy drawn if you look at the other things :/
The earrings are... To high placed. You probably want to hide the weird ear shape, but it looks like they are in the middle of the ear.`
`The mask is pretty cool 0w0 nice idea, but how you drew it is pretty messy. An improvement idea: make the nose bigger
The cat on her shoulder is so cwute and is smiling! IT REMINDS ME OF BUGCAT SO I LOVE IT but,alao here could be more details.
The shirt also needs more details and shading.
For the male version:
The same with the layers ^^ pay attention to it, since the devs will add it in this order. The mask layer above hair is right btw ^^
The hair looks more like hair, than the femabe one, but shading is missing again. The shading you placed looks kinda weird and don't really fit this hair style.
The eyes are too big again.
For the earrings... They don't fit again. I think you should look at real earrings, since they totally don't fall like this and it would really hurt, if you have them in the middle of the ears..... Outch xD
I like this mask even more like the other. Why don't you keep it for both versions?
Again: I love this animal xD
And also again: more details on the shirt.
The ears look kinda weird here.... The pink part is too small and the Grey part too big.`
Umm...
^that's my feedback. I removed some parts, since you fixed them
@signal wing I saw you were in #thai ^^ you could ask maybe Master to help you translating it ^^
How about this ? :3
Looks good, but please read above again
Okw i giveup
Noooooo don't give up ;+;
With someone who may can make it more detailed it would be a great design tbh
@signal wing Don't give up!
the concept is awesome , I must say. Try to collab with somebody (work with somebody), you both may probably make it godlike and legendary XD
Yesss
@signal wing i hopee you dont mind that i borrowed your design for a sec๐
I changed few things and added more shadingg onto it
You can take that as an example if you want to or if you want help on your design,, you can always dm me! ^^
I really like itt and i would love to help you on it since i quit designing myself but i would love to help a new designer develop 
it's alright if you dont want to either ๐๐
Hello everyone i miss you
Wb xD you found the way
she knows da wae 
Yaeh~ i come here cuz i want idea for this skin backgroud(my idea is about music)
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Would you also like feedback with the background ideas? We have an excellent feedback system here ๐ ๐
@fiwss เธเนเธฐเธเนเธฐ ๐#0593 it looks like some type of "royal music" xD of you know what I mean. Maybe the eyebrows could be another type of color? A light black? Just not black xD
Please also some more shading.... As back item maybe a.... Uhm piano?
Or like flying music bars? (I donโt know if its called like that)
I can't ping properly
Ty xD
Yw hyde 
Oki thanks!
Hmmmm...
I think a piano would look better with a fully black/white themed outfit... for this, I think floating notes and sheet music and swirls, that kind of stuff would look good, in those golden colours
A piano would blend if you have a black white outfit
no dont ruin it >:
I don't xD I just say my opinion :/
maybe it could happen with different shades of black, or if its further in the background
Ye but it could be too much too ๐ค hmmm maybe someday someone does a design like this
.... Okay I want xD I have an idea
ye i was maybe going to doodle some stuff like that, but, someday
like maybe a hat with some piano keys attached to it n stuff, fancy clothes with music notes on it
hey look it's me (still can't draw hair)
@shell zealot do you think it needs hair?
idk
I don't think it needs hair tbh
Maybe you can make a more like.... Killer clown shirt? Some creepy stuff๐
Lmao flashback to 2016
I think a huge sheet music with the pages fluttering will look good as a background btw @gilded trench
sorry I had a nap lmao
do u mean like add things to the background or smth else that I'm too tried to understand @hazy falcon
My idea is like this(It's not finished)
What do you think the that 5 line should look like?๐ค
@gilded trench Uhm, my opinion might not be the most accurate about, but I donโt see how this chandelier fits the whole, Iโd say, what about a double spyral of pentagrams, or maybe some teathre bleachers/balcony or even curtains as a background? And if I understood correctly the theme is court music/classic music, you could give him something like a pompous foulard on that shirt and a violin with his arc as a foreground item (really like the idea of a bass key as an earring) 
I will add light for chandelier and I intend to make this outfit about violin
Thank for feedback!
Felt like giving my opinion since Iโm a violinist tho @gilded trench 
@gilded trench I'd suggest a piano , as others say , but maybe with a red carpet to make it more "royal". Also, maybe add an upper lamp (not sure how to call this :/) maybe a yellow one.
OOF violin
Sorry
I think it would be nicer without chandelier.
I'm not sure if the chandelier would even be visible. Like it'd mainly be hidden behind the number and name and then cut of, wouldn't it?
Yeah you are right. Most of it will probably be cut off.
๐ค ๐ค ๐ค
Oh that's really cute ^^ but the eyes look small and/or too far away from each other
I agree with Hyde.
I love it but matching those eyes with other outfits is hard.
I have like alot of different eyes.
and I can't use the half of those eyes, just because theyre to high, or too far apart.
But I love the outfit tho! x
Need someone can help me with the eyes ๐ฅต anyone here pls? ๐ฅบ
Hey ^^
Hey ๐
What do you need help with?
I means help me draw the eyes ๐ i have done almost things for outfit except the eyes. Then i need a partner help me draw it ๐ฅต
I can probably help you ^^
So cool if u can โค๏ธ i will give u picture about outfit later when im at home ๐๐ปโโ๏ธ
A bubble gum exists already
@coarse sage sure ^^ just send it to me in dms
Wrong channel nvm ๐
What kind of eyes are good?
I think the first eyes are a bit too pastel, I like the 2nd set the most ^^
The first are nice ^^ maybe with a normal pupil?
I suggest 2
yeah, i think so too. But the 1st is too pale. It makes the eyes become no feeling
I think if the eyes were more of a green but in the same scheme as number 3 it would look gr8
i think the eyes should be bigger and further down, itโs nicer for a lot of hairs
or maybe just bigger and like
yeah slightly further down
Green eyes might suit the avatar more than blue @woeful rock
@quick harbor try to draw on the wwo avatar platform
send me the link
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Kawaii๐โจ
Kyeopta~ โฅ
The hair shading looks kinda odd and the male hair line is a bit too high, but overall Me likey
I think men should shade a little more.
Hey! This is a pretty cool look. This definitely has alot of potential to be amazing :)
Some feedback i have is: The horns look odd on there, id suggest adding some shadow there to make it look more realistic. The shading on the hair isnโt really enough atm, could use a bit more shading at the top. The eyes could also use shading, they look kinda odd right now but the colors and the shape work well with the look :)
Good luck on this one, looks really nice neah โค @barren harness
โค Thank you โค
Your sheep theme is cute, and your style would be able to pass as a game item easily, because there were only a few things that caught my eye. I encourage you to keep it going!
male:
Hairline/forehead is pointy and the hair itself is slightly too long at the tip of the head
Hat will look better if it shrunk in size
The horn is a bit too long and cutting it to half the original size is recommended
Bold shading would be great to define the flow of hair, it looks stiff when the shading is cut off
Female:
Like the male, the hair is slightly extended at the top which makes the head look bigger and forces the hat to be bigger too. Reducing the size will also fix the size imbalance of the hat.
It seems to me that the only difference between the female eyes and the male eyes are the eyebrows, and it would be ideal to add some distinction between the two that's enough to indicate which one is for which gender, but not too different because they're a set.
Everything else seems ready for the game ๐
@wanton hamlet โค haha thank you โค
@barren harness hey ^^ I know you already got some really good feedback but I also would like to give mine ^^ maybe u double things but ye xD this idea is extremely cute ^^
For the male version:
I love this shirt xD you placed shading outside of the wool but not inside? Like this the white and light cream color blends in a little bit ^^
For the hair, I would prefer more structure. You can add it my shading so it looks like strains and making the the hairline less straight but more like a real hairline xD the one strain in the hairline is wrong placed and too straight. It doesn't fit and I would just change the hairline ^^
The eyes are nice, but probably too low placed 
Flor the girls Version:
The hair also needs some Shanding and also more... Structure.
Shirt is really cool, but also needs more shading inside
Hair also like the boys.
All in all: please pay attention how you place things. I zoomed in and also without zooming you will see the problem with the horns... Toom on the boys hair too. There is a little hare you didn't clean properly ^^
I'm not sure if this goes in avatar ideas or not but what if there was a role that interacts with an avatar? Like Air Blaster role could knock the hat off a player? ๐ Maybe this should be in #role-ideas-readonly
That's a cool idea, but I remember reading that we can't have animated avatars that move during the game because it'll increase the lag and cause some complex issues :(
Oh that's too bad. Thanks @wanton hamlet
simplified the head item, what do you think?
Well it looks nice but a bit out of place. I dont know what it is qwq
I would keep it simpler ^^
Can you remove it?
@burnt apex I would like to see, how it looks like without
To be honest.... If you make the show background lighter, I think it's a good thing, even without the head pice๐ let me search for some other hat ideas
Hm should i finish dis? I made. It a while ago but heh
And have no idea what to doo with it
Why not? ^^ to continue a design never hurts 0w0
The hair is cool uwu
i think i'll leave it without the hat!
Cool 0w0
in a different topic, do we have any plague doctor outfits?
I think there was one but I couldn't find it so maybe not ^^
@burnt apex are u finished with this?
Whoaaaa!
@burnt apex
@burnt apex a lot of people have tried making one, but it haven't been in game ever
I LOVE that background!!!!!
I wove it 
@burnt apex if you have a name, I can discuss about it ๐
Sadly enough I can't buy outfits qwq
@hazy falcon aura observer!
Cool name!
no i mean plague doctor
I have 29
you know, with a creepy mask and stuff
You can try everything, as long as it is not copyrighted ^^
Yeah there have been made like 4 plague doctors i guess?
But everyone usually capitulated or it didn't manage to get in game yet 
@barren harness do you need help?
Well
:'v Yes but I want to do it myself
Wait
The second one no chandelier

Doesnt make sense to have a chandelier
which do you like?
Both are cool, but I prefer 1
You can have two bg versions 
But always chose the one you prefer and not the othersโค
Nuu
@somber bronze If it's a hat, how many can you have?
@barren harness usually two versions one male and one female
Tho you could make it 3/4 too buttt that'd be a tad too much imo
Hmmmm
oh i have a good idea(maybe) now( owo) thanks guys!
The 2nd ones look great!
Looks bad
It doesn't look bad ^^
the second ones will probably be easier to fit with other hairs, i think, but they're both really cute ;;
@quick harbor be more specific with what "looks bad" i mean like a feedback :v
@burnt apex :'v
It need more things
They all look great ๐โค
@barren harness I would place that second one a little lower on the head
@quick harbor yes but he has hair and the hat covers him look up
@barren harness still think it would look better๐ค but if you think this is better thats perfectly fine. I really like the idea
I think you can๐คท๐ผโโ๏ธ
i kinda wanna design an outfit
Then do so ๐
@primal pecan just do it๐
๐ฅต
Should I redo this one?
Your decision
ye
Meh. Just say yes or no ๐ since I canโt decide
You can!
Nope Iโm terrible at making decisions
Decide or DM spam
if you have some ideas on how you wanna change it then go for it
if you wanna change it jst to change it, but dont have the inspiration yet, i would leave it for a while longer

@hazy falcon Iโm going to make a decision ๐
Im not going to say it until you get here๐
I'm everywhere xD
@hazy falcon true. Iโm not going to revamp it for now. Because maje is right. I know what I want to change but not how
you'll probbaly wake up one day, knowing exactly what you wanna try with it ^^
@quick harbor I'm proud of you ^^ that's probably the best decision 
@hazy falcon omg where did you get that emote!
It's a pkmn server xD but not global afaik
Cute
I still do not shading the skin's hair 
@barren harness could you maybe show it without the dark grey on top? Because I think it looks wekrd
Hmm something on the grave is missing 
I think the sheep's head looks kinda weird.... And there is still something missing
@hazy falcon hahaha it's okey xD
<- if you understand what I mean xD
@quick harbor tes tes redo
Not necessarily now but redo some day 
Bc its soo great but with your awesome developed skills you might be able to make it better,, if you still like the concept ofc 
@quick harbor please never change the grave and the eyes
Anyone that is still an active designer wanna collab
im not that good but can make ideas
Im thinkin of maybe some single items for the bp๐
yess bring back the single items
those space glasses are still one of the coolest things i have
@atomic hearth u shud help me make one๐
i want to but i have 0 time
U shud give me an idea then๐ @next talon
im more of a can draw but no idea person xd sowy
@atomic hearth gimme idea then๐
i cant draw digital, way too much effort
What background should I use?
Maybe some type of house?
Thank you ๐โค
I Schmell a Dutch girl 
But what can I do with dis hair? Any ideas? โน
@quaint bison duden is german๐
I KNOW AND I DONT CARE-
But I searched for "dutch windmills" ๐ @quick harbor
What do you think about it? ๐
ahh im trying to get the hd picture ๐ but failed
uhm @woeful rock i think it's really nice but if you can fix the eyes, it will be better ๐
OK ๐
The horizon line with the buildings looks odd
really need help about export file from AI, anyone know about it please ๐
Lemme research
Can you help me? ๐ the .jpg file is always broken...
This is what i found i dont use adobe tho
yeah i know it... but the image is always broken lol ๐จ
Hmm idk then sorry
it's ok, i will try to ask my friends
jpg... i heard jpg?!?!?! 
@somber bronze Ban
Avatar Demon Slayer ๐ค
@woeful rock there is gradient in the right windmill which isn't allowed and also the eyes dont really fit the outfit imo
As its pretty grounded and warm tone colours but the eyes got a cold blue colour
Grab a katana in hand
Nah
I'm not sure, but it doesn't look like real gradient
outfit Japanese ?
Already ig ^^
Okay
@somber bronze OK! Thank you ๐
Uh Yellows Hair is already ig ?
I can't zoom in
It okay
I'm outside and back in 10-15 minutes
At the doors is definitely gradient dk about the rest of it 
Check the pinned messages. You can see some apps for drawing
I thought it was gradient too but wasnt sure
Gradient here ๐
@woeful rock it could be great if it is your own design , you have to make stuff by your self ๐ท
OK ๐ข
@somber bronze you said right wind mill but pointed out something on the left shed๐ค
Right their side not our side 
Also saying "add windmills" i'll just call both windmills as i can't say scheune 
๐
Thanks for giving me new vocab tho ๐ 
watch me when my mom says chatting doesn't teach me anything
๐
Did you draw these items yourself?
The basket I didn't draw myself. I will do it again
Okay ^^
@atomic hearth because?
A shed = small storage place (schuur), barn = big building usually housing animals, think of that stupid kids show barnyard hehe
@atomic hearth i dont know barnyard. And how would you translate barn? Because I would say schuur๐
they might both be schuur in Dutch yeah, sometimes the english language is more nuanced than ours, or the other way around ^^'
be like Germany, simply get 100 synonyms for one word 
The collar looks outlined...๐
ahh it's a sweater so i think the collar should be like that...
But the lines go all the way around which isnโt allowrd
okay i will fix it, thanks ๐
@woeful rock I wasn't gonna comment on the eyes, since every person has their own style, but the sclera needs to be seen more or it doesn't look like human eyes. Good job on the rest
@wanton hamlet what is sclera?
The white part of the eye
Basically the iris is too big compared to the eye size, so either the iris needs to shrink or the sclera needs to extend
if its a dutch windmill can we has cheese though lol

XD
you cant blur things
I don't like the lips๐ they look kinda thin. And if you want to do a clan quest design with the lips it's 7 items๐ maybe just don't do a mask. I think everything fits good together
OK.....
1 or 2
i choose 1
lips from first arenโt allowed bc gradient
same goes for eyeshadow
but i like the second better anyway, the lips donโt fit in the theme imo
Yeah second
This mask is not possible since it has to cover the whole lips and outlines are not allowed
Would this make it better?
I don't like the mask here
Its wont hide the original mouth
Ye but... It doesn't fit in in my opinion
yes i agree
Interesting
Maybe just don't do a mask. You already have 6 items :3
And why didn't you keep the blue eyes?
Wait where did the blue eyes go? I liked them more qwq
honestly I prefer those since there are already many blue eyes in game
Hm
I think someone sggested making the irises smaller (the brown part of the eyes) and I kind of agree
also the red bow on the basket stands out a lot from the rest of the colours
I dont see a differencw
I fix the basket color......;-;
agree, you could make it darker red to make it look better i think
@woeful rock I'd prefer if the male one had some shoulders and personally I think the eyes are too low, also the eyebrows and eyelashes could have a more defined shape
๐ค I thought those where from different designers
oh nvm I pinged the wrong person
@barren harness
as to melon, the basket could have more shading
OK ๐บ
Oh
Maybe a little bit shading on the bow 
it had details before but she changed, while we said it was the colour, not the shading ๐
Ah ๐ sorry i didnt read the whole messages
the pattern is fine but curve it downwards a bit so it follows the shape of the basket?
Do I have to fix it?
only if u want but I think it would look better if it was like what I suggested
I think matching the bow on the basket with the eyeshadow color you used could look pretty nice 
Yes I agree with Nou 0w0 and the shadings are weird.... Maybe also make the highlights like the highlights in the eyes? <apple>
Super cool @barren harness and @woeful rock keep it up! ๐ ๐ช
I meant the apples highlights tho ^^ and the shading on the tie is completely gone now ;-;
It looks soo cute!
Thx ๐
.... I get ignored
I guess she fixed as you said ๐
@barren harness i think you shouldnt add the hair tie. Or maybe with another shape. It looks a bit weird 
Ping me if you are finished with the last version and name if you want ^^
Is my avatar bad?
In case of having another bug I will fix it
Ah...OK ๐
These are just ideas ^^
Also with ping I meant, that I can post it to discuss about it for #dev-vote xD
Cute 0w0
What do you think? Could it look better in the same color as the headpiece?
If you want this to be the lastest version ๐
You can always submit it to vote just ping a mmod+
Tmmod+ xD
Oof lol
He asked for help and gave me permission to ask for help here ๐
By @spare sluice
He needs references for outfit and doesnโt know wich eye colour he should use
Oof
@quaint bison I highly agree that baz is an idiot sometimes๐
Yup
XD I remember the time, when he never listened to me, when I gave feedback and then suddenly he listened xD
๐

Bas hates me so no point๐
Noice

what's the point in pinging a member which isnt in the server tho?
Wont give feedback 'cause i stand by the reasons i listed in dc 
@somber bronze true๐
@quick harbor

Yeah thats all๐
He said to me he didnโt like this is said publicly @hazy falcon
He don't have to do a drama out of it ^^
I still stand by feedback I gave back then.
And I agree on what Min says as well.
I want clout goggles
and the detail of the choker is too small to be seen in game
Like...the "background lightning"
It's just a "base" of the avatar
You get me?
Forehead hair or nah?
The hair is fine, but the shading on the shirt could be improved ^^ also a few more details won't hurt. Example: you could add shading to show where the arms are.
The hair is really really nice and with some more shading it could be really awesome
Yeah
I'm just making the "base" for the suit
After i finish the base, i'll go with the "complex" lightning (????)
Altough not seeing this outfit as the "recharge ones", more like a free-login suit tho
(But that Doesn't mean i'll go lazy & stuff)
It was just a feedback on the current base ^^
Just that...apart of most of the "recharge ones" i want a more "versatile" & "simple" style, for players to combine it easily
(?)
I like simple style too you can easy combine
No don't worry xD as I said: it's just the feedback on the current picture I have
I await the next version 0w0
Oh, hehe
U still here?
Who?
Hmmm
I dmed u the picture again cause i remembered i havent shown this off yet
Also noob did most of it
๐
Will check it asap ^^
Does is look like the wwo style?
(The lip more "rotated" than the other was on purpouse)
Can i see it zoomed out a bit
I dont think it matches the style that well but as long as it isnt gradient i think it may be allowed
(Shading & details not ready tho)
(Oh, and for people who weren't at the start, this is my RL outfit)
Not bad @shadow nexus I personally would add maybe another layer of a little bit of a lighter brown to the eyes just to make them seem more full and show more emotion.
I would also make the lips a brighter red to match the RL
๐
Oh lord...
I'm starting to think we need a "customization" option on the game...
Like...with duplicated items (only some of them) could be customized.
Real honest
I always wanted to make an outfit like this
So...took the risks, just like rl
Thats the only thing i really dislike about the outfit is the different shirt designs
Just wanted to make this outfit the vibe of "A woman who risks everything until the end" and i said...why not
I mean, i need an "irregular" outfit in this game, real honest
The choker looks a little offcenter as well
The rose earing might not be visible in game
But ye i see what u mean
The style is really cool
The cheeks have gradient which isnt allowed
Not a problem :) just a small change is all it needs
I thought i said that earlier lol
Oh, again, sorry.
-.-
Hm...
I wanted to replace it with the typical "cartoon" blush...but it looked weird
Its cool lol
@shadow nexus do you mind taking a look at what myself and a friend made in #battle-pass-49-outfit-ideas
Sure!
You can see skin on the left side of the choker
Looks kinda nice
Small blush effect
Otherwise i like your style and the progression
Also might wanna remove the lose strands
Hmmm
Yeah, ik...kinda weird that on the Image it looks off
See that little bit

what is this
||ignore the eyes i deleted the original eyes by mistake and lazy to cope one ||
Vampire?
Looks succulent!
the lips yes
@quick harbor say him he should let the eyes like this and the outfit in a mixture of light blue, dark blue and black with a bit red, that i looks like a creepy heartless person.
Forkman forkman
You could make it bigger than this because it won't cover the whole face xD
Its a beard its not supposed to

Should be fixed

I never saw such a smooth and round beard 
then again the template doesnt even rly have a chin so...
Pickle chin ahhh
XD
I used a random shading tip that min gave to someone else like a few weeks ago
I dont really know how I remember it
When? 
I gave many shading tips welp
Ok i think i remember which one ur referring to 
uhh white nd red? 
Im guessing like a big brother who quietly watches over his mates
Looks good for now 0w0 but try to make the eyelashes less thin and highlights more visible
Alright.
The face...
Looks kinda weird...
(Yes, i had to make the eyes again because i didn't mirror them .-. )

The eyes should be a tad higher 
hyde takes sip
Also hyde : types a 3 page long feedback XD
@opaque wyvern he already finished it๐
yeah i think there's one on the in game voting gallery, but it doesn't matter if there's several
Oh...
yours looks really cool imo
make something simple and flowy but dark
Yeah, what i want to achieve with my outfits It's the simplicity and make them easy to style with other items
I other words, "Versatile"
@burnt apex there is a white fox skin with the red shields so nope
oh i thought it was the guardian skfjdkfjs
@shadow nexus Iโll try to give feedback (my art mostly is on paper and not real for wwo so it may no help always)
**Hair: **
1.add some shading
2. This very thin lines wonโt be seen in game probably
3. I think the hair in the back is to low
4. Itโs very big, make it a bit smaller
eyes
- Make them more straight
- I donโt like the shape (personal reference maybe)
- The iris look more to the inside, try to make it in the middle for both
- Highlights in shadows are not possible (also make bigger highlights)
- Mirrored highlights (many people hate it)
Mouth - Where is the mouth?
shield
What is it supposed to be? Looks kinda weird in my opinion
Ideas:
Maybe as shirt a samurai/ninja kinda thing with cat elements to it
Ow itโs supposed to be that new wolf ๐
the mouth is the default one (??
Looks like a cat kinda
maybe they'll add a mask later
but yeah you're right, hair can't go behind the back, so make it shorter
Still is weird that the mouth gets removed
oh wait you're right
@shadow nexus just make that hair in the back a bit higher, and I think itโs alright
if you're going to make a mouth kind of mask it was to cover the default lips or else it won't be available to all skin tones
(Hope I gave good feedback, I draw a lot so Iโm pretty professional with art)
Progress (2)
This shading doesnโt fit gamestyle I heard
and, regarding the eyes, the lines are indeed a bit squiggly and i think some people would say they're a bit too close together
i like them tho
@quick harbor you mean the strands they added in the hair?
Yeah
i think there's an outfit with similar hair shading in #dev-vote, but maybe i imagined it, let me check
In the designers club I saw someone with similar shading and someone said it didnโt fit gamestyle
nvm it wasn't really like that
we have a few bare-chest items in game, even this BP
Yeah
but i think you would have to draw abs and stuff lol
and if you make a female version it wouldneed a diff solution








