#Sia
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Nono, ideally I think it’s precast buffs in waiting room, stacking Antares in boss room first, then shine for hourglass, then the 3 markings for manual Sirius, then v4 appear etc while the boss spawning, then the last marking for Sirius, then equalize Sirius, anchor etc.
Shine gets to cd when we cast manual Sirius.
Wouldn’t this stun the boss?
It's not like we are nerfed its more like we are less buffed than the others, we're not the worst class but before v4 we topped dps.
We fly at the half bottom of the list and that hurts so bad.
Yes I did mention that, also no class is entitled to be the top class forever
You chart has like 10 other classes below Sia and I don’t see them complaining
A lot of people are complaining and not just sias, this is one of Nexons worst rebalance. Not sure if it's your intention to shut our feelings and feedback down but it's definitely coming off that way
No, the second shine must be cast before the boss appears
Sia’s ideal case number of lines is just so different from empirical number of lines. Paladin is around the bottom of the list but does 24k lines within 5 mins Damien, while sia did 17k lines.
“Unrealized lines”
Do you think it is healthy for the game to have classes like bishop or kanna or fire poison to be at the bottom of the charts forever, while classes like Evan or lumi or sia be entrenched at the top forever?
The purpose of rebalance to so that classes like kanna feel less bad and not get stomped by every lumi/sia/evan.
What’s the point of rebalance if nothing changes and dead classes get even more dead?
Just because I am calling for healthy game design doesn’t mean I am here to invalidate your feelings. I even think the stellagram change should be reverted.
So let me ask you, are the classes that are dealing less damage than Sia right now entitled to be above or below Sia? Or do you think Sia is entitled to be at top, at the cost of invalidating all other classes feelings?
This is single target stationary boss, but Sia’s most of skills are summons and fall behind drastically in moving bosses if not ideally positioned. With the changes to Vega/Canopus and Sirius/V4 effect line changes, about 50% of our dmg output is via Sirius, and that’s in 20s out of 60s. Not to mention the micro needed to play Sia 😅 and further, if you want to fully support with equalize on support skills or having to standby link/pole as a panic button, that further costs DPS too
Why would we talk about non-sias in the Sia chat 😭 who here is saying other classes don't deserve buffs
Don’t think anyone’s asking to be at top. Just don’t nerf damage and support at the same time. A class that requires you to play perfectly to hit high numbers should do more damage then one button spam classes. Infinite revive was bad for the game and definitely needed to be fixed.
Just scroll up and read about how people are mad that other classes got buffed more than Sia
Would want to see hourglass be redesigned to something that feels cooler and more balanced. Previously people abused it to cheese boss mechanics now it got nerfed it doesn’t even feel useful anymore.
Oh I see! Good idea!
And just at the beginning of the run, cuz u can mess it up if u stun accidentally later hahahaha xd
How do you all synchronize buffs? like casting v4 and appear when the boss sprawns? I tried removing the buff pet before boss and equipping when the boss sprawns but messed it up. (mounting wouldn't work because we need to cast buffs and Antares)
Let's spam #buffsia :v
Stupid question maybe. But wat is good about appear? I ways have it on pet. But as i read you, you use it seperate?
I have it on pet as well, but now I’m thinking of synchronizing it with other buffs as it gives extra lines. I want the extra lines to happen early in the fight and get the dmg buffs (If you hard cap all the lines and if it’s a long fight then it might not matter much)
I already quit but I do read the threads from time to time. What compensation was given for Shine being nerfed so badly? None. The duration was reduced, and a cooldown was added. The crit rate buff remained pretty much the same. Perhaps during the cooldown phase, the entire party should receive an 80% damage reduction and status effect immunity. I’m thinking big here. Players in this game just settle for less, and that's why Nexon is giving you less or nothing at all.
Codeblue knows I've been asking for a change in Sia's gameplay for a long time, and everyone hated the suggestion. Now, it took a nerf like this to get everyone up in arms. Sia is both support and offense. Some players want the offense back, while others want the support back. Sia players need to consider both sides. You can't say "bring precasting back" and be fine with the way Shine is now, nor can you say "fix Shine" and leave precasting as it is.
Stop asking for less and start demanding more so that Nexon will seriously consider making the right changes.
Cant speak for everyone but I think before the patch most of us were satisfied with Sia playstyle
which was why your suggestions werent popular
it was understandable that hourglass spam had to go away but we got nothing in return
Prolly he did not realise that Kmsm also nerfed the precast when V4 dropped on Dec 23
Alot of the changes in Gmsm is exactly what Kmsm Sia got as well
yeah
So i'm not sure what is that paragraph that he is ranting for lmao
he wants to be the person to say "I TOLD YOU SO"
if anything, the complain should be why the Devs are just copy and pasting stuff from Kmsm over to Gmsm
But then again
Its nothing new lmao
Saves development time and effort
copy pasted damien without considering gmsm player stats are lower
Exactly lmao
Worst of all, they took the chance to milk potential stats
Buffing the stats like Max HP
Recorded my opening part here. Thanks @merry seal for the v4 preset idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29XLg6jxOa4 (no stun)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXNxnSBgU9w (stun version)
Ty! Very helpful
glad I could help. that opening seems perfect to me
Can u share ur hyper passives?
You can follow the pinned message here: #1060008793406181467 message
Personally I’m still using the 10FD instead of the link/pole duration, as I’m not hard capping.
But more link duration, more lines for ray, right? Do u pref more stats over lines?
I did some math. 10FD will give me 4% more dmg for non-capping lines. Link/pole will give me ~1.5% more lines. It’s a tough decision.
probably still stick with 10FD for now and change to duration in the future
i just realize there is hyper skill reset scroll in the event shop
This was made by AI and not checked for correctness just so we're clear
Caveat: I’d say it could be situational. FD over lines is a tough toss up. Line counts are the best approximation of dps under capping conditions like weaker bosses. but if you do mu lung 45 or culvert, you might observe that not all lines do cap. I don’t have objective data to say one over the other and the numbers seem too close to suggest a clear advantage of lines vs FD
Since mulung n culver we don’t cap, does having higher level and base stat more advantageous than mdc?
Just from my experience outdpsing people w lower mdc than me in bosses but I can’t get culvert score any close to them. I’m also 10-20 level below these players
Mdc matters still because a portion of your overall DMG may be limited by cap - for instance your strongest lines or largest multipliers for V skills. Stats and level will benefit lines that don’t cap (mdc won’t really help those)
You can’t cap in sc/ml because of IED, increasing your FD by 99999999% doesn’t fix that IED limitation
The defense “lowers” your cap
to illustrate this point let's assume you have 30m cap
and you have ark pendent with 3% ignore def
and your skill has 15% ignore def
your highest damage in culvert stage 6 even with inifinite attack is 30000000 * (1-(1-0.15)(1-0.03)) = 5265000
with ds4 it is 30000000 * (1-(1-0.15)(1-0.03)(1-0.25)) = 11448750
nothing about FD will raise your damage above these points
everything about culvert is squeezing in as much damage during ds4 timings
sia is at a disadvantage because of that
How do you know when ds4 activates?
DS4 You can see the buff in the buff bar. It's more difficult to anticipate it, which may be doable to infer from your skills in the cd bar.
This means some changing up presets before bossing right? You also use all presets when abing? Or is there a new meta
Instead I changed from using 4 presets for ab to 3 presets for ab plus this one.
Now I'm using this one (3 presets). I used to add Fomalhaut to it (then 4 presets) but recently found it reduced my kill count.
but still, I need to take the v skills off from pet before bossing.
Cool thanks!
hi does anyone have an AB & bossing setup wheel that they can share?
Pre-Lv.200 Skill wheel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XV4P5YuEcE
Note:
- at 12:32 you can also put Link outside of Vega preset so that it can be used to pre-cast Capella
- at 13:31 if you wanna prioritize Izar over Famolhaut, you can put Pole after 2nd preset(Boom) so that there are 5 marks before Izar's Pole and 4 marks before Famolhault
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use ultimate skill wheel if u have the gear
you can also use moonbeans skill wheel thats pinned
ty
his ultimate skill wheel is a little confusing.. as he left him presets blank
The last portion of video
yea waht those the 2 mean?
Just leave those blank
It’s just the sequence of the next skill.
The game will fill those in. Just follow the presets and the skill wheel the game will do the rest
havea bossing/support set up too?
I just manual it’s easier
Here’s my skill wheel
The preset is just Sirius and v4
and u just memorize the combos for the buffs?
Yes
what about constellation?
this is for AB or boss?
Thank you!
is that yellow preset, equalize = siruis?
Yes
Many sias are quiting are you still here?
Yes
Not for much longer
Hyper skills selection for ab only is?
Such a shame
In A2U, I see only 4 serious Sia left, haha.
The rest is created for farming Meso 😅.
Sad class with High skill play to create the combo to deal DMG.
You can't miss any combo. (Missing a combo means losing dmg, especially combo for V2)
But it ends up with Nerfing Dmg (precast or whatever what I know is after this patch my friend's dmg is so far away from me since they just had V4) and support Hourglass.
Hourglass for me is no longer useful or any use.
To Devs, you just imagine while you're doing the great boss like lotus, Damian. Pls tell me when to use Hourglass.
Sia: Hit hit hit doing combo,
Your team says: the Lethal Strike. "Sia Sia hourglassssss"
Sia: oh crap, I'm going to finish Canopus, plss. Wai..t.
Your team's dead.
It's so so hard to use, you got to memorize all boss pattern. So that you can prepare to use The hourglass.
Compare to Bishop, they can use to support skill with one button, but Sia needs to clear the combo first or you got to know beforehand to use Hourglass.
Always tell my friends, there is no more Hourglass.
It’s actually easy, i never spammed hourglass so now it pays, i know them all by heart and boss patterns too
In my server only 1 serious hero left, 0 serious cadena, 0 serious hoyung, 1 serious Adele. Nexon needs to merge our dying servers
Could anyone post auto battle skill wheel pre lvl 200please with passive too
Having a clip you're bossing? If you're a support Sia, it's easy like you said, just find the tempo to use Hourglass. If so, why needs Sia then.
Preset for formalhaut (choose the dmg reduction constellation) preset for Algol (choose big froggy) and equalize Vega. I used that all the way to 200. Back then you had to cast formalhaut before turning on ab not sure if it’s still like that or not.
You dont need hourglass to block screencrack for example, Sia is really usefull in other ways, granting invicibility twice to whole party for several seconds every 1 min, healing 40% every 15 seconds, granting buffs at the same time, theres alot Sia can do. If you play the lazy way, spamming hourglass its not Sia the problem, im not talking about you specifically
Sia is special, if you got skills you see the true potential
If I dont attack and focus only on support, even without hourglass spam you can block Anything, heal, stun, buff
But the best is to do bout at the same time, you need to learn to cast manuelly. Ive been playing like that every day since Sia came out
Thats the only character I play, I got other to cdd but thats it
I feel like sia is on the same level as bishop now
But if you support as sia like you mention above, sia dps is significantly lower than a bishop now. A bishop can dish out all that dps now while still healing and dropping fountain. Sia is sacrificing her Vega, her Canopus if she chooses to heal. Meanwhile benediction , fountain, etc. is just a quick switch to cast then back to dps.
What do you mean by sacrifice canopus and vega? I cast them non stop, and if casted manually you heal at the same time
By casting everything you also heal, buff, etc
Serious question, how do you think Sia healing still works?
I think most people who commented on Sia are not using her right
What I meant is because you don’t get to cast heal when you want
You cast it continuously to keep up dps
Whereas bishop can drop fountain or cups when it’s really needed
Or when you have to cast sadalmelik, you’re wasting 1 Canopus
Where bishop Rez or benediction do not interrupt their dps
I’m not against the hourglass changes. I’m more upset that to get the line advertised rn for sia (which is roughly about same as bishop), sia is sacrificing an awful lot of her utility. It’s impossible to upkeep 4 Antares on bosses that move.
Classes like cannoneer, marksman, etc with summon all got an update awhile ago to reduce their summon cooldown to 5s so they can move their summon when the boss move. No such mechanic for sia to move Canopus or Sirius or Antares unfortunately
I knew her abilities well and play manually and everyday, I'm complaining about her Nerf in this patch and I don't think you get the point. If you really play Sia, you knew she's from top to middle in dps and her support doesn't perform well too compared to the support class like Bishop.
Also bishop can deal so high dps in this patch. Let's just say Sia is not the Good job for both ways in this patch. If you're satisfied with this, congrats for you.
Or trying to tell me to adapt it.
I'd say I understood.
Thank you.
@lavish horizon thank you!!!!! I love it
When the usual aggro has connection issue and the altar runner pulls aggro and life gets complicated T T
Nexon need sia for dps but nerf support sia and dps sia, now she does't skill for burst dmg. In 1 sec sia can't cast the skill, other job hit the boss morethan 200 hit/sec.
You forgot there are other classes with 0 support skills and still have significantly lower dps than sia. Makes no sense to complain about bishop when they finally get buffed feel like they can compete in solo content for once in like the past 4 years.
what class does less dps than sia?
before you use the line counts on the tier list, the line count on sia is inflated from the person precasting canopus
and even then that line count only applies on nonmoving targets with perfect play. neither of which apply in end game bosses
Pulling out the end game bossing line counts. Sia is 70.0% paladin, from server top players. While paladin is among the 10 classes with least line counts, in any tier list.
The real Sia line count is ~6855 per 2 mins in Hard Damien.
alright then do a hdamien run with a hoyoung if i cannot use the tier list
waiting for you to produce empirical evidence
paladins have inflated lines due to echo in multiplayer but the multiplayer echo clone lines are capped at 15% and 13.5% of their mdc
sure you provide the hoyoung. lets test
oh no running away because no evidence?
i can provide the hoyoung but it will be level 150 so you will say it's invalid either way
it is so bad you dont even want to fund one yourself
hey why dont you provide the evidence sias above a bunch of classes then
youre the one making these claims
but you will claim it's invalid
how?
before you use the line counts on the tier list, the line count on sia is inflated from the person precasting canopus
so i guess
how is this wrong?
the best empirical evidence we have on hand is useless
I've seen the BA. he precasts canopus
it isnt wrong, but it is the closest thing we have to any good data for now
and let's face it
damage on a dummy is not equal to damage in a real boss
both of us are lazy to produce new data
why is this so hard for you to understand?
i completely agree with you
but again
i am working with what we have at the moment
and i am too lazy to produce new data
and you are too lazy to produce new data
so we are just using the second best source of data we have
we have real bossing data?
If we're gonna use my video here we should get the fact straight that we will just ignore the fact that Sia did get op support & op dps for a long time pre-patch and i was pulling rank 9 with 44m MDC pre-patch yea? bishop can't have nice things unless it's inferior to Sia??
and lets talk about i legit did not do support, did not move in the video to be able to pull that damage as well?
lets not cherry picking the data that only support our arguments yea?
I think a bishop buff was long overdue
I dont see why balancing has to be thought of as some zero sum game
i think we are in agreement here then
i don't argue that Sia may get short end of the sticks in terms of this rebalance but stop dragging bishop down in comparison cos lets be real i've been suffering for the whole 6 years
we don't need both to suck, just ask for your buff and get on with your life
@merry seal is the number 1 Sia in our server and honestly one of the best Sia players you will ever meet. We have data from our guild dungeon ranks and we can see the differences between mdc and damage output. There's a lot of factors to consider for class balancing, I guess the big frustration for Sia now is class complexity and payoff
i just see a comment about saying how bishop has better support and dps and just commented other classes had worse support and dps than sia, especially before the june patch
and i completely agree sia needs to be buffed
to compensate for the loss of precasting and complete gutting of hourglass
but just scroll up to see on the dunking on bishops lmao
i usually don't have beef with Sia (even tho i with full 8 absolabs got slapped by practically anyone, not specifically just Sia, with remotely full necro, couple absos at best) and yet not once i downvoted nor ditched ANYONE asking for their buff.
yet Sia were born yesterday, been more op than bishop since the first minute it exists and practically could annihilate bishop if they wanted to. then seconds, SECONDS! after the patch i have been dunked on nonstop bishop this bishop that. Can't say i'm not irritating at this point.
again no beef towards Sia, but i guess because we did have support skills, i only saw certain Sias keep dunking on bishop and im over it.
lets be real Nexon ain't listening for any of this cos if they do i would get buffed long time ago.
good luck to all the Sias and hope yall find peace.
Can’t be top dps forever just how the game goes. Dk why the hate between supports each of the our classes got our supports nerf in terms of Rez but to be fair a lot of the upcoming sia were not invested in the class and was just using it as hourglass mule.
I feel conflicted knowing that we prob got nerfed extra hard from people using it as a hourglass mule
again my comment was it makes no sense to dunk on bishops and people got mad
i feel you cos for god knows how long ppl just use bishop mules for stuff. imagine having to up your gears to do content, oh the horror. honestly i still haven't seen people who has suitable gears to do the content complain much. cos if you have high mdc, damage goes with it. to this day i still haven't seen any higher mdc lost to me, and lower mdc beat me. which...... makes sense?
but anyway i don't wanna interrupt Sia discussion here. i just wanna say my piece cos bishop + my video got brought here. I hope yall getting the fix you need and hope you don't need to wait as long as me for things to get better 🙂
it kinda sucks cause sia had a 6 month period pre v3 where hourglass wasnt a thing and back then we played her as dps. then when v3 was discovered people jumped all over it and it became a way to replace bishops. it makes sense that as a person who actually geared a bishop it would be frustrating.
I stopped gearing my bishop when I played her cause I realized people only played her as an alt and a way to leech parties with no funding
in the end I dont think we should drag bishops down now that theyre finally in line with everyone else. I also dont think we should punish sia players (besides the ones playing hourglass mules) just because they were op in the past
I just want this class to be decent you know. for the effort and the learning curve players have to put in
sia was a really fun class the moment they changed constellations from 12 cast to 4 cast, hourglass meta was a consequence of bad game design from nexon
yea the amount of trash talking is unreal, and bishops aren't even much superior to Sia in terms of damage. just on par! imagine getting this much junk for having middle of the table damage... from legit last.....
I think they just never noticed how op hourglass was in kmsm cause no one in kmsm cared about extra lives
they have way more hp + move speed than us so dying was easily avoidable for them
but in our version we made it too obvious
yeah seeing how kmsm do damien and realising their strategy is just be strong enough to tank mechanics
we got a damien that does the same damage except we have way lower stats
yea that was so frustrating to see. we couldnt use their vids as reference for our early clears
gotta admire how the A1L team cleared damien right before the MDC boost
Oh for sure. Those classes have been completely ignored by Nexon and got no love. I’m very happy for the bishop. I think it’s a very much needed change for them. Like they finally fill the role they should be, lowest line but not so low you can’t do content, but still provides immense utility. And has very clear strength.
From my personal experience, a bishop was not needed prepatch for Damien. Now I see a bishop almost as a necessity for Damien. Who wouldn’t want that dps (albeit lower on the list but it’s 80% of the lowest dps compared to 10% of the lowest dps) while providing so much utility?
a bishop was not needed prepatch for Damien >> we survived, so will you
I’m more saying about the purpose of this patch as a whole. Was to bring dps up across the board so most classes are somewhat even in line and damage output. The gap between the bottom tier and mid and top tier is much narrower.
But while doing that, they took away sia’s identity with this patch.
I’m all about rewarding a class with better timing of skill usage and such. But that’s not the case here. I’m just sad about that. No complaint about bishop buff whatsoever.
i get that you're upset about Sia, but everything you have been saying feels almost as if bishop doesn't deserve to have as good damage as Sia cos I don't know how else to interpret it when bishop out of all 40 something classes kept getting brought into this.
I dont know what Sia's identity was, but i'm glad 'support class that could be replaced by Sia and Phantom but bottom of the barrel damage wise' wasn't a bishop identity.
i might not agree with everything everyone were saying regarding Sia rebalance, but i tend to keep my mouth shut cos people are entitle to their own opinion and it wasn't my class, but when bishop got brought up i'll take that personally and also voice my opinion
I’m sorry you interpret it that way but I really don’t mean to say bishop doesn’t deserve the buff. I said above it clearly was a much needed buff that they very much deserve.
noted and thanks for clarifying, cos i might have interpreted "I feel like sia is on the same level as bishop now" as why is this a bad thing then? especially when people keep saying bishop is good now, then same level as bishop is a good thing!
however i understand there might be a communication gap in terms of texting. we're good :). I apologize that I came out a little offended and I hope you still find the love to enjoy playing Sia as much as I suffer with bishop for all these years 🤣
Haha. My sia isn’t even geared.
I’m just a nerdy player who enjoys learning about all classes
And have always loved seeing classes with clear strength and roles
Looks like they nerf the utility of the common support class like phantom and shade and bishop by compensating with a lot of extra dps. I wish sia would have gotten a buff or change to her supportive ability and give her a clearer identity. And in all fairness , I think most will agree sia has some of the biggest learning curve. And that learning curve should be rewarded with higher dps or unique supportive abilities.
Perhaps moving the heal from link to pole so it can be used more often?
Maybe reduce the cooldown of link when cast as single constellation to cast sadalmelik, so we don’t have to wait 15s before we can cast Canopus or Vega. The 90s reapplication cooldown is necessary to prevent abuse so probably should keep it as is.
I’m not the biggest fan of 4 Antares. I’d rather they just up there line of Antares and bring it back to 2. So when a boss move, if only takes 2 Antares cast to move it to the new boss location
I think her big issue is that almost 60% of her lines are on sirius now - a skill that requires a boss to stand in around the same spot for 23 seconds straight. if the boss moves out of sirius... youre screwed
and you have to repeat this process of positioning sirius and praying the boss movement patterns arent bad every minute
easy way to solve this is just to give her lines back to her other skills that got nerfed
V2 and V3 probably needs to be redone. V1 is their only offensive skill, V2 grants a crit buff that is somewhat not needed if you have a Necro. Plus the hour glass, V3 just gives u the hours glass if I remember that description correctly. V2 and V3 feels like a common skill not a V skill. Like I said before maybe during cooldown phase of hour glass grant an 80% damage reduction buff or something and status immunity (obviously I'm among high) some it should be something along the lines to make it feel like a v skill 💯
I don’t think they’ll move the line to other skills.
It’d be counterintuitive to their goal for this big patch which is emphasis on v skill.
Before this patch, many class have 4th job out damage v skill (which I agree is kinda weird, like if our 3rd job will out damage 4th job).
A possibility is for them to allow a way to resummon Sirius to a new location when the boss move
They did it with all of cannoneer summon. They did it with arrow illusion of marksman. They did it with arrow blaster for bowmaster. they did it for mechanic and wildhunter summon too I believe.
those summons dont deal much damage compared to sirius
So perhaps what they can do if they don’t allow us to resummon sirius is to front load all the line to the first 10s by changing the constellation enhancement to double the line count of the continuous damage.
i think making v4 unlock additional effects like making sirius follow you around might be interesting
like a third talent of sorts
Other classes like merc and Evan have about 5-7s to offload their burst. So if sia can double summon Sirius and have all the lines dealt within the first 10s , I think it’ll help a lot with dps. 10s also line up well with stun duration.
also make it so that it is within ds4 window
sirius being longer duration than ds4
idk what nexon was thinking
Right now shine at max lv is 60s and equalize is 60s so I’d say if the burst is dealt within the 15s of ds4 , it’d be great.
I really think without changing any sia mechanic which I’m sure is a lot of work for the character development team, just move Sirius burst to the first 10s. Problem solved
+1 on this. The developers want to emphasize v skills, instead of moving the lines to 3rd/4th job skills. However, Sia has only Sirius in all v skills that deal damage (now v1 v3 v4 are all buffs), which may be rare in all the classes. These two factors caused them to move lots of lines from other skills to Sirius which isn't really a burst skill.
I like the idea of making Sirius burst. Another quick fix would be adding the nerfed lines from other skills back into v4, e.g. the nerfed lines from Vega and Canopus. I think it's also fine to make v4 a bit shorter but with significantly more lines to Vega/Canopus/Ray/Antares, etc. These will make v4 effectively a v skill burst as well, but without changing much the code.
To also address the elephant in the room regarding that bishop pov, @sand aspen stated clearly in her video's description that the main aggro which is Mott the Demon Slayer had connection issues.
But imma assuming that most people who watched prolly did not even read her description, just straight up called up bishop as op af lmao
Kinda of sad when people watching the video instead of watching under the perspective of under a "what if i'm an aggro scenario" and completely twisted the picture
Yes indeed 🤣 thank you for pointing this out cos this was what happened when he didnt have connection issue and i wasnt the aggro. I had 61m MDC last week which was 3m less than the run in the video but still. You can see how much the damage relies on MDC and not the class.
Also just in case anyone wants to know how sad it was pre-patch...
Hello. I am level 150 Sia. I’d like to focus on being a support since most of my guild does more damage than I do. However I am very confused on the skills and constellations to use. Can I effectively play with presets? I play on my laptop which makes it hard to spam buttons sometimes
How are you contributing so much more after the patch?
I’m contributing significantly less to the team after the patch.
You might want to get to lvl200 before start thinking about contributing. Which boss do you want to get in? I’d recommend focusing on the minimal requirements for survival before you can make positive contribution.
Laptop is not an issue. You can spam skills by just pressing the key without releasing.
You can see the pinned messages for constellations. The main support you can start trying is those team iframes with link and pole. Plus Antares adding team CD. Plus the regular buffs like hourglass after lvl200. But again, survive first with Fomalhaut -30% dmg.
I dm you 🙂
Hi can someone share presets and skill wheel for abing post 200 please
And Hypers will be great too
Check pinned post
Ok thanks
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only 4 skill slot
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Video private?
Maybe they just set video to private
Or the stream has ended
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Yes, he is a MSM exclusive character as Sia, he is a warrior and can be selected as male or female
It looks kinda cool
Its like a buffed DK lmao
I dont need protection, I can hold my own 😤
Another summon class let’s hope they don’t f him up too
Is he coming to maplestory m?
Whens he coming?
Mage class?
idk, maybe end of this year
Reading through the kmsm v4 patch note and finding the differences. It looks like the our unique changes are:
Vega reduced hit count -37.5%.
Canopus reduced hit count -18.2%
Fomalhaut reduced hit count -33.3%.
Antares reduced hit count -33.3%.
Sadalsuud: 120s duration changed to 30s duration with shine cooldown.
Big dmg reductions
Is this a buff
it's a nerf
i think there is not bossing preset for sia, you have to remember the skill combo to play
What is the rotation in that case?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQSIU4Ea-Sw I recorded a random daily Ark
Does anyone know the stats for each level of v skills? e.g. Sirius and Shine
Just reached 200. Could anyone share skill wheels and presents for ab and bossing?
Noone?
Which gear do Sia needs to survive sf168?
looks like you can survive without a weapon/armor...
jokes aside, I would say a mythic weapon, with mostly unique armor and 1-2 legend armor and/or boss set would be ideal.
Thanks for video! And no i don't. I usaly check per 5. But i don't remember it. Just for short check
Mostly check cd times
Thanks. Yeah that’s also what I remembered. 0.5s more duration for each stage of Sirius per 5 levels. And 5s less cooldown for shine per 5 levels.
I don’t have numbers either for more detailed stats like skill %.
Yes that
Hey guys ! Could i have auto battle setup pre lvl200 ? With preset and constellation passive
Check pinned moon beans video
lvl170 setup? No?
Anyone know which skills to prebuff for bossing? Do yall keep v4 manual cast or pet ?
Manual
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Here are the boss openings I use.
manual, except in damien
If sia wanna use Death and Rebirth as "heavens door"/"Shell" As bishop. Does it get cancelled if bishop uses heavens door?
No
Atleast. I never heard of this happening. I ran bosses with sia - me and bishop class
May I ask to max which V skill first ? Between hourglass or V4
Hourglass
Anyone have a lvl 200 AB wheel available?
See pinned post
Is there any place that gives a guide on how to do bossing using Sia pre 200? Is Sirius is necessary for bossing?
Sia is kinda useless until 200. Her support comes from mostly hourglass. U can use link for iframe but other than that she doesn’t give much.
Ahh I see. No wonder I don't seem to be doing anything in the early game expedition bosses. I suppose she's not ideal to be a first main character due to needing to be 200 to contribute?
definitely necessary for bossing
tbh who bosses pre 200
if u are talking about exp, cexp, just wait for a leech
Is pinned message about the hypeers passive still best?
Ah yes I was trying to do those but it's hard coz very little carries in A2L
Ok so sia will get buffed or is another nerf but they will say is a buff lmao
hopefully a line buff, not a buff like this
Wow thats permanent buff right there?
I got it from newest patch note kmsm
Nothing much, just this and some increase final dmg
No line change
Added on a list. To let it die there 🤣
just like jett on pc msm, they delete the class then you can change to other class
can someone give me wheelskill to ab plz 😦
Where is Sia buff?
Error 909
Error 404
Error 409
What crit rate does sia need to always crit when movin mobbing?
to crit 100% of the time, you need 100% crit rate
Ty
If you close your eyes, you will see nothing
What if the thing has 70% close eye resistance 😂 then you need Damien’s eye patch that gives you +100% closed eye (jk)
i need sia ab setup before 200 any suggest?
Hi guys, is still viable to max up trios to extract to get more shards?
What’s the gear?
Should be easy just summon wolf anytime it’s up

i tried yesterday and took 7 min to get 2% 
but my stats are pretty bad 
have fair trade available so 173% cr
but possibly cdmg is just way too low
whats ur skill sequence?
i think thats what im trying to figure out
i was summoning the wolf first cast, then using wolf again - double cast
then antares
and i try to use the anchor/tornado if i remember
are there skills i should be prioritizing?
other than the wolf skill
So for me I cast Vega before u go in lotus, then formalhaut, Bellatrix, when lotus appears you should have link up and u can do capella. Then summon v4, wolf and then another wolf. Then pole by itself for fd. Then always have bellatrix and capella. A trick with capella is you can refresh it by summoning anchor.
Vega should always be up for continuous dmg.
Formalhaut can also do dmg
Yeah
Preset?
the constellation skill enhancements
gotta make sure they do less damage for you to hit 2%
i personally cast capella first before i go in
To each their own? Vega has a longer run time than capella.
But capella cd starts again after cast from izar, vega, canopus. That Could be casted first since it does not run out?
Again does it matter? I just like my capella before I get my wolfs up and v4.
As long as those buffs r on before wolves r summoned it doesn’t really matter 
Nahh it does not matter. You just gottago hard
Here is one of my runs if it might be helpful.
I usually try to have everything up before entering.
You got your account back!
I haven’t tested this versus spamming Antares to get 4 rabbit hole up yet
But what I’ve been doing is
Capella formalhaut bellatrix vega before enter
Then when I enter I cast ray ray link, then wait until boss spawn
Nah still banned. I’m pretending by sharing this old video. 
Yeah good point. I didn’t test either but just assumed 4 Antares do more than link cd or shine cd (similarly cast Sirius and wait for cd)
Boss spawn, cast pole to fuse anchor. Then shine , then cast Sirius, then equalize Sirius. By this time, link will be off cooldown n I fuse 2nd anchor.
Again I haven’t tested this but it’ll be a trade off between having 4 Antares (which benefit from v4) versus having 2 anchors out earlier and have it sync up with ds4
- Cast ray ray link when enter boss room to fuse anchor eaely: 6267 line
- Cast 4 Antares when we enter: 6200
It seems like not much of a difference
I’d guess because anchor doesn’t benefit from v4 while having the 4 Antares out early benefit from v4
It benefits from v4 by getting more duration I think
If you cast v4 before it I suppose
Yes makes sense. That’s what I meant by “link cd”. An alternative is to use it for “shine cd” by casting ray shine pole of Sirius which will make the next Sirius come earlier. But it’s only useful for long fights and will break DS on a second thought.
From the screenshot, did 4 Antares only give 34 more Antares lines? That’s a bit less than expected. (567 vs. 601)
Oh I’m not sure
It’s probably because it only gives Antares an extra 1 line
And after I fuse anchor , then I fuse 4 Antares anyway while v4 is on
So it’s only a few seconds that I do not have 4 Antares.
Which makes sense why the line difference isn’t significant
Ah I see. I thought you do the 2 Sirius first in real bossing which will make Antares appear later than this test
True. It’s just so many variables n things to keep track of 
first sia representing will

The GOAT gratz!
And u got the node
drop rate on the node is quite good. most of us got it. and we'll probably sell ours next clear
congrats hope you get your pocket soon
congrats!!! repping us well 
hi guys whats sias current status in the game? in terms of her dps and supporting
Sia stays goated!
Anyone experiencing mp issue?
To precast all the buff, and keep up Antares, my mp just can’t keep up
I’m sure it’s because mana overload eats a big portion of it
But that fd too good to take off
Suggestion?
And how often are u guys able to stay close enof for formalhaut to dps?
i just started the game and chose her because shes cute lol
Just reached lvl 200, opened 60 node stones and my Sirius/Shine is still at lvl 1 FML. Why is it so hard to get skill nodes
i dont use mana overload so i dont face that problem
yes i just stand infront and tank everything w the occasional ethereal if required
we literally have it the easiest cause everything can be a perfect trio
As everything can be the perfect trio, which 3 should be focused on for bossing?
4 node 6 skill u max all
U mean max all the 4 main nodes? How to most efficiently max them when 1 consist of 3 skills
abc, cba, def, fed. basically 2 of each skill.
6 skills x2 = 12
split across 4 node slots.
this is the way to max lvl 60
If im a f2p with minimal budget and wont be able to max my nodes which ones should i prioritize first for bossing?
I’d suggest Ray, Vega, Canopus, as a b c. And then you can use 3 slots to max them, eg abc bac cab, before you get lv25 nodes and lv5 slots.
But this is only for bossing. You need other skills for ab too.
Does anyone have a recommended split between cd and ba emblems?
I have 2BA and 5 CD looking to work on a belt next, and I'm wondering if I get another CD or if I go BA (I have a necro weapon)
Is this still accurate, looking to fill two additional node slots
This is good some say full cd but for me balance is key.
And yes Sia nodes are still accurate.
Would you recommend AO or EF first?
Is Nexon ever gonna add another common v skill to sia? Mages get mana overload / Freud / phalanx / etc. but sia got none
sia has mana overload
what are you talking about
I meant they got 3 skills. So ilm has mana overload. Unreliable memory and ethereal form
Evan gets mana overload Freud and ethereal form
i see
Sia only has mana overload n ethereal form. She doesn’t have the race skill
I wonder if they’ll ever fix that.
we will have to wait for kmsm to have it, then wait for 2 years to arrive to gmsm
on the bright side you can see this as 1 less v skill to max out
Ah I figured that’s the case. But it’s dumb since all v skill is out now n we maxing it so later we gotta get more nodes again
What are the perfect trio for Sia?
Check pinned
anyone knows whats our supposed lines/min
im at lvl 232 and maxed everything already less slot points
There is one (good) data here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yUwSaHJmXBOvc-eI0UD7EMVyu4WUc2OwjkXPbMa4AWI/htmlview#gid=2075334118
S>Necro Sia Wep
NA, Scania? .. price?
What skills do I need to prioritize on keeping up? Cannot seem to do damage as I am trying to use too many skills 
Listen to me young one : start your day with a 10 km run, 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, 200 thumbs 👍 roper-twister, do that another four times, until it starts crackling.
Then you will know Illumination
Oh and max out your nodes too.
is sia the next class on your roster? golly
Pro tip. True.
Hello, I just hit lv200 for the first time. Is there a recommended skill node for Sia that I can follow?
All of them
At the end you'll want two of each
To begin with decide whether you'll focus bossing or mobbing initially and focus on the related skills listed in the pins. Good luck! I still have no idea how to do rotations for proper bossing but I love our class
You have 4 25 nodes
Thanks for sharing, I'll try and mimick. Is it best at this stage, that I focus on getting one node to rank 25 for now, or should I get the rope skill first?
I find sia generally weak... it's been a huge struggle leading up to lv200 so I hope my character gets stronger
Gnez has a great nodes guide that I followed
Look up just measures node guide
Rope skill good yes
Could someone advise me on which skill combinations I should be looking for when it comes to boost nodes? I have 200 opened boost nodes that I haven't used for enhancement because I don't know the correct trios
. Scrolling through the class forum it seems that there are 6 skills that all need to be maxed, but what exactly is the correct 3 + 3 combination for AB and bossing that makes the most sense? Hoping someone can enlighten me, thank you (I still don't really know how to play this class haha)!
These are the three nodes you need
it should be in the pinned post if im not mistaken
Here is my nodes, got all 5 main damage dealer skill, o ly remove boom
4 for boost is alrd adequate. This setup is akin to wasting precious node spaces
i prefer 5 node slot to 4 node slot with 20 slot level
hyper passives for sia?
You can check pins
S>Necro Sia Wep
Need some advice here ᵕ̈ is there a sequence I should follow for bossing like ark/lotus? barely hitting 3%
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I’ve been doing a slight variation
Cast Capella first since it lasts for awhile. Then after link is ready, cast Vega , then bellatrix n formalhaut,
when enter boss it’s usually 10s til boss spawn , and alchiba fd lasts 30s and wolf last like 22s. So if cast pole first, then double wolf along w v4. And my first link will be to refresh Vega instead of anchor while v4 is still on.
It’s because so I don’t have to worry about recast Vega and have it run out (one less buff for me to worry about up keeping) and I refresh Vega every time I activate v4
You do lose out on one anchor worth of line during the first burst but technically not really because later on you’d have to recast Vega so you’d lose one anchor there. That anchor may not benefit from ds4 depends on timing
So my method is slightly less line for first rotation but no more worrying about Vega after and just focus on bellatrix n formalhaut
Lmk if anyone has any input for this!
Sounds good!!
Im doing good? Mythic wep btw.
You beat lotus with a mythic?!?
Oh team?
10% contribution respect.
I also clear single too haha
First time clearing hdam on sia whiffed a few Sirius 😂
What kind of gear do you have?
How hard is it to pick up this class 😦

That’s how I feel when I play sia
😦 damn
Definitely not an easy class to pick up
If u come from like hero for example
A lot of things to manage
You switching Tommy!
It’s an easy class trust once u get things down it’s just like riding a bike
Really require good game knowledge
And to keep up formalhaut, Vega , bellatrix
Should I use pole for the fd or save it for the extra 3 hit block
When should I use link to do Canopus vs single link to block an important skill coming up for the whole team
Dps sia isn’t too bad. But to be able to support n dps n make decision on the go is what makes this class hard I think
Late af but with all these changes I’m considering exploring supports again. I never got to touch the sia class other than getting it to 120 link so I was curious
It’s a lot of combos. Sia offers a lot and also contribute to dps.
I’ll definitely give it a look
I like it. It’s a class that really gives u a lot of opportunity to learn
And perfect ur rotation n adapt to different situation
All legendary crap just the weapon is mythic cd emblem lmao
Its was god in the past, but nexon got affraid of our powa and nerfed us u.u, but they say we will get a buff in the next rebalance so idk.
Im still getting fun to
as long as the class is fun to you 🙂
No way. Without fair trade n some stat n lv 211 n u hit 10% multi lotus?!
thats the 1 thing no1 can take from u
yea this is kinda impressive af. and it wasn't a slow lotus run either..
My ark w full ancient n necro weapon cant do 10% lotus. That’s just not possible
Well to be fair i have a decent vmatrix so...
Mine is lv10-15 and max boost node
And I can barely scratch 3%
And necro weapon. Without necro, u missing out like 6-7k attack
I have v1 v2 and v4 at lvl25 +5, and max trios
U mean this?
No the skill breakdown
Battle analysis results
And how is it a 5mjn run
That means a bunch of 40m+ people and u are doing 10% with that many whale in the team?
on this screen, click battle Analysis Results
Something doesn’t add up I can’t believe it
How does this work?
On skill description, bellatrix - ray ray boom pole
On another video that i saw and tried, ray pole ray boom gives bellatrix buff as well
S>Necro sia wep
Check the cp it’s 24m
I doesnt matter the order
Yup
I guess you should record your next run. Perhaps we can learn something here to dish out dps like that
Yeah I want to see too 
Record your eqps also
Judging from the dmg chart everyone in that run should be almost all the same eqp
I'll try to record the next lotus run
But as i say i just copy warnn's rotation from his lucid run
The trick to doing Lucid properly on Sia is to place your Sirius in the middle blue platform of phase 2 as soon as you get into the map. Then after that place Sirius on that same platform as fast as possible after Lucid reappears after minigame/charge/lasers. Without timing and placing Sirius properly, Sia's damage in Lucid is really really bad
Then ur even more op. I still use pole an extra time for the fd boost. Warnn rotation doesn’t include it coz he caps
Yes show us the video haha. Necro and lv40 inherit and i get to 100b something.
Trio max and other nodes lower. But this is insane
Or nodes are just too insane for adding dmg.
Is Sia alt a better farmer at AF60 or AF90?
generally the higher af the btr, as long as u can survive and can ?kill
I use everything and I rarely miss I’m not sure I could get 10% can someone invite me to lotus I’ll film
i barely got 23k mobs in 360min idk if it's good or not
Maybe nodes are too op cuz i got almost all maxed
Insane dude!
I have hard time maxing these special nodess
Is there a reason you put your v's on the slots with points instead of the boost nodes for skills?
Interestign set up, that is.
I have my boostnodes on the pointslots to make them 60. But maybe that last few points dont matter and putting v's on it has more benefit?
Lvl30 special nodes is for more time and stats, like sirius u can have 0.5sec more and that's more lines for you. Same with shine at lvl30 u have 60sec cooldown so u can spam sirius at the same time at te equalizer and your v4.
Well lucky day to me, bye bye mythic buddy 😭
Smart. Ima try to do that too.
I have sadalsuud almost 25. That extra time for rebirth is worth it yes. I switch it out for boss support
Rebirth only if u go in support role, if not, its better use the points on another node.
Yes
Thanks man! Appriciated!
Need advise
Are these useful?
But where is the video 10% mythic lotus multi ..
Srry i was about to film this week lotus at Thursday, but i made my mythic weapon to necro today
Im gonna film lotus run this week with necro :''D
Lol
Must’ve been the right constellation of stars today or idk
Slling tradeable celestial light cd emblem go for it at tthe ts lol
Thkss
This week run 30m cp lmao
Cant u0load the vid cuz doesn't have nitro u.u
Zak hat and pb belt rocks hahahaha
What’s the analysis like for skill breakdown? U cap all?
U mean this?
Yea that’s pretty much capping
5 min run too that’s fast
Nodes op I guess
What’s ur char stat like unbuff
My other char w ancient gear w good stat and necro weapon can only hit 9-11m average
I think it depends on mdc
But idk how to increase the minimum dmg
Can’t even hit the cap consistently is my point. Mdc is 20m but the stat isn’t good enof to hit 20m and it’s better gear than what u have
It’s ark tho.
Sia has been known to cap easier than other classes
Char stat unbuff is 30k attack. 93ba and 355 cd
I remember having a sia friend before whose stat is like that and they cap when they are 18m
So could be ark just harder to cap
dang paul is giga cracked.
YouTube and share link ❤️
Also nice stats with this gear. I have lower in some cases and wear acients.
Maybe alot of links and legion?
Why is the use count of sirius 0?
Yeah, legion and link helps alot.
Ty. Goals
Srry the crap edit, first time upload a vid on yt
Dont worry! You atleast did it! Nice man!
Nah I was banned.
Hey guys I just hit 200 as Sia and I’m trying to adapt with using Sirius to farm so it totally messed up my usual skill wheel -> which to now I came up with this… Everything might not come out all the time because of the pole CD, but overall the wheel works?
Or am I being too greedy with wanting buffs and damage at the same time?
If anyone has a better wheel please help a freshman out 🥹
there is no changes in Sia V matrix right? if no, i just follow the answer given.
i also not sure.. because my wheels is follow youtube.
How much i can ask for a tradeable mythic sia wep lvl36?
how can i improve?
You have perfect trio?
Also level up nodes then
Also use thee matrix points
perfect trio is the one that John shown? i have to check.
use my matrix points on which nodes is better?
Its different. Sure there must be a perfect perfect one. But at the end they all go 60
Ill mesg you inrpvt
ok..thanks..i see if i have perfect trio.
show me which trio i need to have
I think you over-leveled your trios, u got 4 skills x lv75
Yes, cause max lvl25
In theory lvl20 is sufficient
I got something like this, same 4 slots but I used up most of the slot enhancement for it
Tbh I felt as long as we have lv50++, i think we can hit cap for most of our lines 🤣 so I don’t really mind leaving them at lv50
So, you have 2 of ea buff in one trio
Ya thks, I could try that as long not use 4 node slots
Fomalhaut gives quite a good portion of DPS, which I think can boost your overall DPS further
Ya
Make sense, missing vega & fomalhaut buff
No difference in lower tier boss
BUT affect boss from ark
And beyond
Thanks bro
Time to re-do trio
Open ur matrix slots, focus on sirius - shine(this for low cd time so u can spam sirius more often) vmatrix skill
alright. thanks..i guess i have to spend mesos xD haha ty!
This.
So all skills, four nodes. Makes everything 50,+10 from matrix is 60
Should we max out starlight enhancement ? How much of a difference does it make? I didn’t max out that one
Dm if interested:3
There is nothing else to max out. So yes.
Or wat do you mean?
I have all nodes mex but that one
U are doing something wrong, by maxing the 4 perfect nodes u will be maxing all skills by default
Even starlight
The optimal combination, in practice, would be to distribute all six skills among the four nodes twice then?
Yes
Good morning, what do u think it would be a good buff to sia?
Or just with the old stellar mark will be enough to beat all other classes?
What I can think is to make the wolf to finish burst within shorter time
Like from 11s+11s to 7s+7s, but the total line count remains
So we can maximize the DS4 usage
How so, the v4 has 40 sec and sirius only 20
U have 20 sec left to keep bursting like hell
The 15s frame from DS4
O right the ds4 good point
being able to turn off the stun on v3
What I’ve been doing to work around it specifically for Damien is id run to the other side of the map n cast shine , then run back n finish the fusion
That won’t stun him
They really should make it a toggle
I def have mistakenly stun the boss before coz of it 
But since no one knows how sia plays i just kinda play it off n pretend to yell at everyone

I tried that, it still stunned the boss and I pretended nothing happened
and they blamed someone else
Screenshotted. Will report to your team

It only work for Damien tho. When I tested it, the range of shine is like 75% of the map
Lotus n will stay in the middle so no way around it except waiting for someone to stun first
bruh this lol
A damage boost, the more you cast and maintain simultaneously spells, the more it makes and a bonus if you don’t miss incantations
A toggle would be good on v3
Hahahahah same here on 3rd phase lotus xD
Hi Sia mains, its my first time trying Sia so I just want to double confirm after reading the pinned message because it got me confused:
Stellar Marking - Reinforce Duration: (5)
- Provides a permanent +10% final damage.
- Consider resetting this skill after capping to switch to Marking-Persist (3) for extended duration of link/pole skills, leading to more hits.
Marking - Extra Strike: (2)
- Adds +1 hit to all marking skills (Ray, Boom, Pole, Link) at all times.
- Ray will now deal a minimum of 7 hits (6 default + 1 extra).
- With Appear and Link active, Ray can deal up to 11 hits.
Appear Hypers:
- Invest 2 points for Persist and Cooldown Cutter (8) (9)
Stellar Marking - Enhance (4)
- Extra Starlight Link provides more lines than extending pole and link duration.
- With Bellatrix (Comet), expect 12 extra lines per constellation for single-target bossing.
TLDR:
52894 (if not capped)
32894 (if capped)
If u have necro go for 23489
If u don't, go for 24589
Keep?
Haha. Ive done it aswell. Or just hope stun is timed good
Thanks!!
Someone should put in suggestion
To increase buff duration of formalhaut and bellatrix to at least 2 min to match the cooldown of v4
Evan n Mercedes n several other classes got buff with v4 patch where their buff that needs to be refreshed every 1 or 2 min got increased to 5 min. Making it much easier to play
It’d be a nice qol change for sia. I find myself doing so much prebuffing every time I boss as her
Love that I can just cast Vega once every v4 rotation n it’ll be up the entire time. I also don’t like how when we die, Vega disappeared and need to be recasted. Idk if it’s a bug or intended that way
in the kmsm, the newest change was whenever Sia cast a skill, formalhaut and bellatrix duration increase 15s
just increase her final dmg, no change in line
Damn that’d be a nice change but it said it has to be a pole skill. It’ll still be annoying to have to cast a bellatrix or formalhaut every 15s. If Canopus extends it by 15s , and we can’t cast Canopus every 15s coz we have to cast Vega sometimes too, it’ll still be somewhat annoying. I think they shoulda increase the buff duration to 30s or 60s.
But there’s some nerf in there too
Hourglass rn lasts 60s , but with that patch it’ll last 30s. That’s a huge nerf coz we can’t predict when someone dies
Could someone explain to me why Sia’s revive/«heavens door» don’t necessarily work in ark against the screen crack? Could it be constellations? Any tip is hugely appreciated🙌
it works. but it only revives the first two people. after that it goes on cd
Ohh, that could explain it! Thanks
It doesn't revives all team if they died at the same time?
Is the mage class has lower hp than other class or just Sia ?
i'm equipping full A40 and a C30 and only got 107k hp
no.
How much can i pay for a tradeable weapon lvl40 cd emblem
maybe 4b
Hmm. I always sadalsuud the crack and all survive.
I guess people just die right before.
they were talking about just hourglass. sadalsuud is a diff skill and long cd.
Err.. Sadalsuud IS hourglass
I think if you notice your shine skill on CD (hourglass expires) even right before it cracks, then your hourglass is not preventing deaths from crack already
woops read that wrong thought he said link skill
Getting a hang of the class but still cannot find the ideal time to burst in hdam
in the boss final phase, sia nearly hard to get high dmg since the fusion wolf stun the boss
i always get top in both phase 1 and 2 in lotus, but cannot in phase 3 since i cannot fusion wolf :((
Understood the pain, but for some of my runs as sia, I just give up using hourglass already
Gotta sacrifice 2 lives per minute for full DPS 😂😂
30s revive, not worth
Lmao we need a toggle to turn off the stun.
Can u post this too? I always clean my stellagram by accident because of this u.u they can put a toogle to turn off the clean effect.
Any tips for acorn three event?
treat it like culvert.
Kk tyy
This Sia-specific feedback better leave to the experts 😂 they compiled a bunch
Yes this is annoying. I never use it.
When i make a mistake i just rush ray and start over
It just fk my burst cuz of my bug tumbs i press down by accident when i spamming ray
😭
Was a good week
I bought a belt for 799 ancient no emblem it’s regrets
😮
Not a good choice because not BA/CD emblem, and not U potential
But just hope u able to land your emblem change scroll to BiS
Who do they exist tho
not worth investment
What if I’m poor and that’s all I can afford lol
i think if you’re poor (like me) you should’ve stuck with your mythic shoulder for now
but it’s done anyways so make the best of it moving forwards
I bought it for 239
Im sorry to say. But emblem is still not optimal
Please don't go exalt it. Its waste of resources
Well cd emblem unique items are cheap af now than before. It depends on you on what to invest
Any farm wheel pleaseee
Anything new for Sia?
Not that i know of
Can anyone share a good ab wheel?
My personal best auto battle skill wheel.
Please note that the result of AB based on several factors such as character’ status, party members, map and so on.
**** 1st skill in the 3rd preset is Stellar Equalization skill, the icon of skill will change follow as the skill you guy set it to. ****
Thank you for MooBean’ channel for another best ...
I use this one
Thanks to Clwana
Thank you!
I also tried out others. But mostly on 10minutes streaks and sometimes with diffrent external factors. Like people party and even with node set up
But overall this is best
Thanks man, i’ll try this one out!
Sure! You can also dm me if you have other questions
I’ll keep that in mind, thank you lots
I use that too lmao
Its great. I tried moonbean and maple m tips aswell.
This one has another advantage that it uses only 3 presets. In this way one preset is for bossing.
Is anyone redoing hyper for gloom? Since a lot of gloom is hp scale dmg
When i ever get there, maybe 🤣🤣
Yes
I would take it and come back later with Black Cubes and try to change out hp%
So the left one
does anyone know how do i get this? i saw the description but im currently 164 and its an anchor symbol
That star is meant for lv200+
ahh that explains, thank you!
2 months later and im back... since we got a burning xd. its definitely a class with a high skill ceiling.. biggest question is if its support utilities are still strong. would really love to learn the class to its maximum
Support isn’t like it used to be. But sia is still needed in higher content bossing
not to have you write a long essay. but what supportive utility does it provide now? or rather what are the notable ones
2 auto Rez every minute, 5sec iframe, skills give crit rate, boss attack.
im a bit intimidated by actual combo classes but im willing to learn.
would be rough to start over tho. about to hit 230 for the first time.
Its easy once u learn the combos trust me i was intimidated as well
Why not make another main? I have wind archer as second main after my sia
idk if i have the time to play a 2nd main tbh.. nor the funding 😦
hell.. my main is full chaos and i dont think ill be touching necro/abso anytime soon.. this patch is nice but it wont allow me tackle any new bosses that i cant tackle already. and with the future in mind, maybe i need to go support and pray someone would be willing to take my bum. ive tried bishop phantom pally and they were no go for me
Best to try and see if u like it. I’ve rerolled a bunch since starting msm and quit msm for a few years
currently at a AF waiting room for bonuses to tackle lucid and i think thatll be it for the peak of my DS.
ye ill definitely try to hit 200 on it and then see how it is
rerolling at such a high lvl also feels really bad on msm
Eh you’ll get to that same lvl at some point
true
LEL
With the exp decrease it will help with getting to 200. Faster
I stop 22/7 now I’m going to focus on my legion to help with mdc increase
yeee
After patch, sia solo mutiplayer Ark >> haha
https://youtu.be/beQnf3E_JIU?si=hXTTr1uvgK8mDJxT
hello fellow a2s sia
Hello
need to learn from you senpai **
Welcome
Sia isn’T too bad to dps
But to properly maximize her dps, keeping up her buff is annoying
Let alone u have to glance up buff bar to see how much time u got left
I hope they bring the change where casting skills w pole extend those buff duration so we don’t have to redo them every min
And I have to glance at the combo Bar often to make sure I start the fusion w the correct setup. A lot of time you spamming ray n end up using like 2 ray then shine to fuse Sirius. And that ends up messing ur Sirius summon n lose ur dmg. so I had to stop for a second to make sure that doesn’t happen. Imagine that on top of lining up v4, dodging things, look for altar, look for gloom ball, etc
Haha first world sia problems
I'm a Sia who doesn't know how to play Sia 😭 - got to 200 with random AB wheel, and now post-200 copied the Clwana youtube video someone linked. Don't boss at all because I don't know what to do, and can't survive in AF maps even though I hit a necro weapon recently. I've been reading through this thread, but still don't understand the interactions or how to optimize her. Could I pick someone's brain please on her combos and wheel setup? I'd like to boss eventually and it would be extremely appreciated 🙏 .
Some people could just blindly dps w ray n keep Vega up and summon 2 Sirius and call it a day. That’s sia ok ez mode
A sia that can do that n maximize her line with formalhaut, not waste link for Canopus while antipicating a big move to utilize Link iframe, etc are what make sia a difficult class to master
This. Thats why i like the class
curr lv191, does anyone knows of a good bossing wheel?
Does not realy matter imo
what boss u trying to kill at 191
as long pole, link, ray are in
like not to diss or anything. but at 191 you are better off leeching during bossing hours
tbh havent really done any of the singleplayer boss fights
And equalize for izar? Vega maybe. Is canopus avalable already
Np
can try to optimize ur constellations too!
could i get an ab wheel pre-200?
My personal best auto battle skill wheel.
Please note that the result of AB based on several factors such as character’ status, party members, map and so on.
**** 1st skill in the 3rd preset is Stellar Equalization skill, the icon of skill will change follow as the skill you guy set it to. ****
Thank you for MooBean’ channel for another best ...
this is real good
ty!
I had a question. On their 3rd preset setting there is a skill that I don't recognize
ohh its stellar equalize.
weird
@plucky cypress what lvl r u now
130 xd. this isnt on a burning tho. i burned a 200 tb
Pre-Lv.200 Skill wheel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XV4P5YuEcE
Note:
- at 12:32 you can also put Link outside of Vega preset so that it can be used to pre-cast Capella
- at 13:31 if you wanna prioritize Izar over Famolhaut, you can put Pole after 2nd preset(Boom) so that there are 5 marks before Izar's Pole and 4 marks before Famolhault
...
I would use this as pre 200
Yes
Post 200 u can use clwana skill build
Thats equalize with none attached skill
Hey party ppl! What is the hyper passive skill order? 🙂 thank you in advance!
Check pinned
Did not find ://
What is the minimum wpn and armor required to survive for node farming?
@thick epoch here you go
scroll lightly down and you will see Paul's msg
Thank you!!!

is there a burst guide for sia?
I dont know wat you mean. But i try to buff up, vega and formahault. Then cast some rabbitholes.
All before boss spawn.
Then boss spawn i do equalize sirius, circle, maple goddesss, appear, shine and manual cast sirius.
Cooldowns on equalize and shine are now 1 min. So can cast them together.
The burstround next is with circle again. Since that cooldown is 120 sec.
Maybe it can be faster/less time between casts with diffrent set up. But im used to this and for some bosses that 1/2sec dont matter that much imo
Finally beat lotus 🪷
Waaaa wild!!! Gz
Tips on p3?
Maybe i can do it now too with buffs and the new max cap. But i tried it before and got totally wiped in p3
Alot of 1hko
Do you have faith
Yes this one, thank you!
I don’t know what order to cast
Trying to learn sia
Faith?
Believe in your speed, believe in yourself, God speed
Hehe yes i see. I have that
Phase 3 was crazy
Ill try again if i cant join my weekly with guild
What skills to look for in TriNodes for SIA?
All boosts
What Hypers do ya get for Sia?
If u have necro go for 23489
If u don't, go for 24589
Huh...
How do you use Nodestones & wut to use em on...
Maybe check this
For sia its all boostnodes.
25, and its 4 in total
So wut boost nodes should I do?
Ok maybe I ain't cut out for this dang it
I was like you before, inexperienced novinus, with a grey weapon in hands against the world
But today I beat lotus 🪷 for the second time! If I can do it you can! Believe it!
Sure you are! Just take it easy. Game begins at 200
Sia dps is so nice but if compare to the other classes, Sia is still far away from. Got it say this cuz they change Sia to dps. Also Mr.Palopo is the TOP Sia in A2S.
can anyone tell me sia skill wheel for lvl 100? I just hit lv 100 and im kinda confused 😅
Uhm wow wat a question. Ill try to look up mine from back then
I used this on 117
But i don't even know wat is on equalize 🤣🤣🤣🤣
oh, that's actually what im really curious about 😂
what about the preset? which constellation?
For level 100 just spam izar as equalizer, and vega. My wheel back then is
- Izar (equalizer) -> Algo -> Vega -> Antares
Personally feel like Sia is already tanky. I used that wheel till 200 and not worry about dying ever 😅
This.
You can check out
https://youtu.be/1XV4P5YuEcE?si=RXnpt640do_a0LC1
Note: After 2023-2-13 Update, Pole's CD and Link's CD have been reduced from 15s to 5s and 45s to 15s respectively. Meanwhile, all marking skills only need to cast one time instead of 3 times to leave a mark on the stellagram. Given that they both reduced to 1/3 of the original time, the skill wheels in this video would still apply.
注意:2023-2-1...
Are these Sia's perfect Trios? According to Clwana's YouTube post this looks like is covers all 6 skills. I just need 2 of each, correct?
Yes main all 6 skills are the trios
I thought the top node was allowed to be a duplicate
To maximise, you cannot have duplicate
Well, at the end you have two of Everything. But the main skill in the node cant be duplicate. Its the left Chamber one.
So yes you can have same in upper Chamber
I got all 60 and one 30 with 3 nodes
Uh, how does this work? Wich skill isnt 60?
For example
1 2 3
2 3 4
1 4 5
That's 4 skills twice and a 5th skill once
This looks good!
can someone help me out with sia emblems
im like completely lost
like i got no idea on what to do
Its al boosters
aight
Anyone can guide me how to boss with Sia or point me to a latest guide/video?
What’s your @ I’ll help you
Pmed
really depends on ur mdc and how overgeared/undergeared u are compared to the boss. But bottom line is to understand the skills you have, iframes etc
Asking about late game sia, facing high level boss like Will/HD/Gloom
if i activate sadalsuund and it already disappears do my allies still get the revive buff?
does sia not have v4?
whats this?
I was wondering this too!
I looks, i hope, its a bug? Every double skill stacks
Why not sia and erel linkskill
yeah the buff doesnt stack only the passive 😦
Why!? Is 4% crit dmg better than 2% final dmg?





