#Sia

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robust monolith
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i just hope this gets fixed real soon because AB in higher SF is gonna be impossible

golden obsidian
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Ikr

robust monolith
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i guess you could just have equalizer to reset it

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but thats like once a minute

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but seems like myra found a fix

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just either only use ray or only use boom

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@sand aspen good idea

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now only if nexon did their fucking job

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damn cant use lizard anymore

dawn needle
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Algol still trolling Sia. 😂

uncut hamlet
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Tanking Preset Order
1 - Fomalhaut
2 - Algol
3 - Equalise (Bellatrix)
4 - Vega

Important enchantments
Fomalhaut - Quintle

hazy talon
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lol i missed out on the enchantments until last night

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didnt know skill window has 1 more tab

sand aspen
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Pure ray or pure boom gives me almost 100% constellation, and equalize gives me the reset i need for it to go back to my intended constellation

odd lantern
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its basically chansey build for sia

tall schooner
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Lmao chansey❤️

dawn needle
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Hmmz

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After awhile of Sia being released now do y'all think she's good or nah

signal wind
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as a support I think she will be great.

odd lantern
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wow sia is OP in EOS

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lol

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8.2k mobs in 40mins

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haha

signal wind
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we will see though only time will tell.

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as long as I can be a powerful mobber and a support in bosses , then I am happy.

odd lantern
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hazy talon
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lol so fast 202

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very dependent on the sirius v skill

quartz sorrel
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So hyper 1,2,4,5,7?

hazy talon
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eh

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what this nonesense

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how come korea has 1+2 event

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???

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197 -> 200 from that vid starting part

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where is our 1+2 burning for sia?

upper karma
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Get used to it

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Anyone have ss of sia v skills

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If that lvl 200 Sia in asia wanna share

cosmic axle
gray marlin
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The game is from Korea so yeah lmao

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They’ll get the goods first

cosmic axle
gray marlin
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Was it? Lol

cosmic axle
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Thats what it was advertised as

gray marlin
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☠️

cosmic axle
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Or does korea play both kmsm and gmsm lol

gray marlin
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It’s like kmsm is the test server ahead of us and gmsm is leftovers haha

thin bone
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it was mobile exclusive, not gmsm

slender gate
upper karma
cosmic axle
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It’s been said already PikaUhhh

upper karma
upper karma
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It’s a curse

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Can always count on me being illiterate

thin bone
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deepthink idk about cmsm and jmsm

mighty obsidian
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Best auto battle set up?

robust monolith
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vega -> rabbit -> rabbit -> equalizer

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in presets

hazy talon
dawn needle
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Almost all room themes sound cool tho

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So this is wut they used as bg huh?

modest pendant
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Jesus, see a dude that climbed to Rank 7 out of nowhere, then in an hour he suddenly blows past me from 184 to 186

tall schooner
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Power of double burningPikaUhhh

tall schooner
modest pendant
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Oh wait, double burning from before

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Fuck, I had gotten my Evan to 200 with that lmao

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I can see how that would be insane

tall schooner
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Yeah Sias who can register can lvl up way faster, so jealous hahaPikaUhhh

modest pendant
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Explains the 198 on the server. I had forgotten people could even do it still

hazy talon
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Yes but the way they schedule the double burning and without pre-announcement date of release for sia makes it unfair in decision making

upper karma
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Nexon at its finest

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Either they’re geniuses or idiots, there is no in between for them

uncut hamlet
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Yo. Another tip for AB wheel.
Place your preset this way to reduce combo mix up in AB

Preset 1 - Ray Ray Ray Link (vega)
Preset 2 - Ray Ray Ray Ray (Rabbit)
Equalise
Preset 3 - Any preset u like

or

Preset 1 - Boom Boom Boom Pole (fomalhaut)
Preset 2 - Boom Boom Boom Boom (algol)
Equalise
Preset 3 - Any preset u like

This way, vega or fomalhaut will be summoned no matter what.

dawn needle
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Lul

stoic glacier
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Sia's bulk of her dmg comes from V1 + V2 + Equalize only

slender gate
tall schooner
slender gate
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We always gets sided

tall schooner
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QQPikaUhhh

supple forge
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they add this specifically for Sia so she can at least function in auto battle(tho not properly atm,there is still work to be done)and there’s not a whole lotta jobs that need this

tall schooner
signal wind
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Yeah im gonna be sad once burning is gone lol

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Trying to get 178 or 180 before it lifts

cosmic axle
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Is there a kmsm guide on how to play sia

signal wind
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This is what I use for AB

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Works decent. Izar and fomal are pretty much always used along with algol.

odd lantern
upper karma
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Which constellation enhancements you guys go for

slate burrow
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If I want to use sadlamelik during auto battle how do I do it lol

stoic glacier
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Weird as to why he removed thou

stoic glacier
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Y'all all so engrossed over the wolf skill damage lines until y'all forget her downtime skills are seriously slow and lack of any burst or damage lines

stoic glacier
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Since its gonna increase a fuck ton of scrutiny over how bad some classes balancing are atm

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This dummy system will really showcase what skills need to be buff and stuff

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This isnt an issue in Kmsm as their balancing team is more or less very good at making EVERY class satisfied and happy

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In Gmsm is a complete opposite lmao

cosmic axle
stoic glacier
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2 mins CD

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The actual burst (howling) not including the wolf itself is ard 8-10 secs?

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@tall schooner could help to confirm this

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Its BAD seriously

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As the bulk of the damage comes literally from V skills only

upper karma
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But you can use equalizer for it

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I don’t think it’s too bad but also not many people are lvl 200 yet

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What’s sia’s v2 and v3 from kmsm?

stoic glacier
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I'm actually factoring that in LMAO

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2 wolfs aint enough

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That video showed that the wolf and equalize combined for a total of 70+% for 5 mins dummy rundown

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Maybe the video was asked to takedown as it has a very negative look on Sia as a "DPS"

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But ngl, her support skill is fucking lit

cyan oracle
tall schooner
cyan oracle
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@tall schooner hello moonbean 👋 how is the class so far?
Do you think Sia Astelle needs a buff?
Personally I feel that the focus on trying to make Sia Astelle a support is a lot (which is not a bad thing)

But the damage is quite bad, during our V skill down time our 1st to 4th job skills are too weak
Will definitely lose to classes with faster attacks / more lines 😭😭

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As seen from the Kmsm video^

tall schooner
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Yeah my thoughts exactly^, I’m not Lv 200 yet myself, just been talking to the ones who are, and they’re still trying to figure out an optimized play stylePikaUhhh

cyan oracle
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I had really high hopes for the class

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Being a msm exclusive

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And the fusion skills system

tall schooner
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Same here lmaoPikaUhhh

cyan oracle
odd lantern
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actually if sia is op as heck its fine

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but its not

storm dove
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What hyper skills are we putting skill points on?

tall schooner
odd lantern
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hahaha exactly

cyan oracle
upper karma
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It’s not broken out the gate which is honestly a good sign of a well made class

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There’s not one right way to play the class either

gray patio
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which hyper passives should be taken?

hazy talon
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i really need the dev to remove that stupid lightning skill on sia

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its causing me to die at sf180

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useless skill with meh dmg

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like it should be an addon auto cast instead of taking up the skill active cast

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at sf168 it causes slow kills pathetic dmg need my party mates to clear for me instead

green forge
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But what @upper karma is correct

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There's many ways to play Sia

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But her being balanced as a dps and support is good

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Her support is top notch

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dps while limited to V skills is still good enough to contribute

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Although we have yet to see her effectiveness in Lotus

slender gate
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Either you dps on Sia or be a mediocre support

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Since support skills used for dmg

upper karma
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Well if most dps is on V skill anyways, why does it impact other support skills

slender gate
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It does not

upper karma
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What are sia’s support skills

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Too lazy to read it all

slender gate
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Basically a party iFrame and a x3 nullifying dmg

upper karma
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Just invincibility from that 4th job constellation, from hat activation of pole, fd from v1

slender gate
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But both skills are used in bossing combos

upper karma
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Am I missing anything else

slender gate
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If wolf had more lines I’d say she would be a good dps AND support

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But right now either you choose to do dmg or to support

upper karma
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There’s legit so many things to test out

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To fully optimize you would need to test over and over and over again

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I’m 100% sure no one has found the best way to play this class as a dps

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Even support

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Not only you have to consider which constellation you wanna do over another, but also which constellation enhancement

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Basically evan but 100x more complicated

slender gate
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I did CRA today after I got lvl200 buffs are pretty easy to keep them up and movement during bossing is better then most mages but the Sirius hype is a scam

upper karma
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Not even evan tbh. It has many components of all types of classes

upper karma
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I love the movement on sia

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Teleport is scam

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There is one skill that doesn’t make sense tho

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Was it starlight? Where it reduces final dmg to only 5% on bosses

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That’s no dmg

slender gate
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It’s like a reflection or CL

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Casted by Sia itself once you make a constellation or have the butterfly buff up

upper karma
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Yeah but 5% on bosses is nothing when it’s only like a 3 line skill

slender gate
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It’s enhanced on paso es

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Passive skills

upper karma
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Still 5% of 1000% sdmg is only 50% sdmg

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That’s doing no dmg

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The 1000% is just to emphasize how much 5% of final dmg is

slender gate
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That’s not Starlight

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Is the blade atk

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It’s like that cuz it’s not meant to be used on bossing

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Izar

hazy talon
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izar just for grinding use

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sirius i look at the korean guy his doing alot of dmg but then idk how does it compare to evan

green forge
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Sirius is the wolf

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But yeah thats the main damage

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I think thats their intention in terms of balancing Sia

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If not, you're gonna see smth similar to a Paladin

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damage and support both good and incredibly op

slender gate
hazy talon
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yeah

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but the issue is its iffy for some skill/passive procs and AB is broken

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pre-200 it is mediocre yes

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post-200 with v1 and v2 it should bump the dmg tier

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but the issue is

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combo 12x for 1 constellation still not working out

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it should be 4x for 1

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no other games with combo mechanic will require you to hit multiple times for 1 combo point

green forge
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Agree

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Its too slow

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Even if you want to cater for a pure dedicated dps build for Sia

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Her current mechanics doesn't help her one bit in dishing out consistent damage during her burst downtime

cyan oracle
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I do think support classes deserve to deal more damage
The devs may have gone slightly overboard with the remaster for Paladin, but why isn’t anyone talking about how op Blasters and Dual blades are?

green forge
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I would think that Blaster and Dual Blade by design were already long recognized as dps monster even on pcms

slender gate
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Cuz it’s more fair to ask for a buff than a nerf

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They are op

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And that’s how strong other jobs should be

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If not we’re going backwards

cyan oracle
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That is not a proper reasoning for Paladin to not be a dps monster 😅

green forge
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not be a dps monster?

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they were already strong pre remaster

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If you ask around any player who plays the game for a long time

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They actually rate Paladin very highly

cyan oracle
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Support classes have always been treated unfairly if you guys haven’t realised
Let’s bring up Bishop and Battle mage

green forge
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I agree on Bsp and BAM

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Those 2 are lacking when it comes to damage

cyan oracle
green forge
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Can i say that everyone else that cannot hold a candle to those 2 burst specialist should be equally buffed up like Paladin lol

cyan oracle
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And that is why rebalancing should be a means of closing the gap between classes
Because even now, there are too many classes that still do terrible damage even with decked out equips

cyan oracle
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17m dmg cap winning 20m dmg cap players

green forge
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I do think that the only class that kind of hate on Paladin atm is Demon Slayer lol

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Because Demon Slayer on pcms were seen as bossing specialist and monsters compared to remastered paladin

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Mobile is like a complete opposite lol

green forge
cyan oracle
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Demon slayer is just sad haha

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I think hate is a strong word to use, DS players are just upset that their hammer counterparts got a tremendous buff while they haven’t gotten a proper improvement the last, idk, 3 rebalances?

cyan oracle
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Overboard indeed

green forge
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Hopefully we get to see more Sia content especially on Lotus

green forge
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LOL

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I think a major rebalance is in the works

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For everyone

cyan oracle
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Kmsm Sia videos will be a good gauge as to whether Sia is good or bad

No one will deny Sia’s support capabilities, but damage wise, they’d be b1ind if they say Sia has potential to deal good damage LOL

green forge
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Ngl

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I think everyone was blind sided by the wolf skill

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If you noticed how aggressive they advertised Sia using her Wolf skill

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LOL

cyan oracle
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Yup

green forge
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I remembered my friend was saying

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So what is Sia's 1st to 4th job skills?

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Why only talk so much about that Wolf skill

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Incredibly SUS marketing

cyan oracle
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Actually I kinda expected Sia to have bad damage, they did mention in the video “powerful supporter as well”.
From day one they were already planning to build Sia as a supporter.
But according to Nexon,
Support classes = Sh1t damage

cyan oracle
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Baited

green forge
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IKR FACTS

cyan oracle
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Having to cast a skill 12 times for a fusion skill to activate is just bull LOL

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I’m soooo gonna regret funding this class

cosmic axle
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support wise

cyan oracle
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It doesn’t have game changing support mechanics like Bishop’s resurrection and Paladin’s Threaten

cosmic axle
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it's hard to replace single/mass resurrections in group content

cyan oracle
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Yup

cosmic axle
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the run has to be perfect in order to replace a bishop/pally rez for dps but would you even want that risk if the run itself is 5-10 minutes long for just a touch more dps? lol

cyan oracle
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Exactly!

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Why should I bring a Sia into my party when I have better supports such as Bishop and Paladin

cosmic axle
cyan oracle
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Agreed

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I don’t think Sia players are even asking for a Blaster level dps 😂

cosmic axle
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end of day, it's just a party buff and they're a dps class PikaUhhh

cosmic axle
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button mashing 12x constellations for tier 1 dps

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more carpal tunnel than blaster

cyan oracle
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The number of lines and cast speed is too slow

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The class itself isn’t even equipped to match dps classes

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Doomed to fail from day 1, sorry to say

upper karma
cyan oracle
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constellation skill: grants one a blessing of the star flower to increase boss atk, crit rate and additionally summons an hour glass. Grants sia and party members death and birth while it's summoned

death and birth: while the buff is activated, revives upon lethal blow and the hour glass remaining time decreases instead. Even if the remaining time is less than the decrease amount, revive is effective. Disappears once remaining time reaches 0 second

Time retrograde: enemies within area becomes immobile for certain time. Immobile enemies can't be immobilized again for certain period. also applies to bosses

one hour glass per one party, another sia's hour glass summon makes the previous one disappear

V skill bonus per 5 level: blessing buff duration and remaining duration increases every 5 level

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This is Sia’s V3^

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Translation Creds to mod Evgeneia

upper karma
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@thin bone pocket translator

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Now kindly tell nexon devs they suck at their jobs

thin bone
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wat

thin bone
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my translation is running around wowz

upper karma
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Does it stack with door

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Prob not

cyan oracle
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Don’t think so

upper karma
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Seeing that nova v2 common doesn’t

cyan oracle
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Redundant V skill

upper karma
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Well actually

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Nvm

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It is pretty useless

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Was gonna say it could replace bishop

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But then crit res

thin bone
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it'd need actually testing to see which takes precedent

upper karma
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Always fucking crit res

upper karma
thin bone
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ah yea, and we dunno how long the hourglass is

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or how much time drops per death

upper karma
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Lots and lots of testing required

cyan oracle
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The only thing that could’ve made Sia good, keyword good, because that’s how pathetic this class is at the moment
Is, IED, ignore enemy defense

upper karma
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It’s fun but also exhausting playing this clas

thin bone
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yea just trying to figure out itself

upper karma
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I’m liking it in ab tho

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Seems like a new farming class

thin bone
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yea tanky and good mobbing

upper karma
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But also many classes got their booster turned into a passive now, so idk which class is good farmer

cyan oracle
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Probably the new Lumi in terms of tankiness? 😂

thin bone
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seemed tankier than kinesis at least

cyan oracle
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@thin bone how long is the cooldown timer for res again?

cyan oracle
thin bone
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for bishop it's 120 seconds

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but also can be TL'd, unlike sia's which will be V skill

cyan oracle
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😔

thin bone
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hard to replace bishop in terms of resurrection

upper karma
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Well and crit res now

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That’s why fuck crit res

upper karma
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Legit will be 5 classes needed for future bosses and then other spots filled with top dps, mediocre dps will gotta wait until content is easy enough for them to be carried in

cyan oracle
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Exactly

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If funded supports can’t even be allowed to dps and carry their own weight..

upper karma
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Which is why I will stay shitting on DB, Pally, Blaster, DW and whatever class who be doing too much with too little

cyan oracle
upper karma
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Not as much as before

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DW and blaster not popular despite being super strong

cyan oracle
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But having your class shat on because of its strength is better than shitting on your own class because of it’s weakness 😭😭😭

upper karma
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Only reason they get overlooked when they are possibly better than DB and pally

cyan oracle
upper karma
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Very

cyan oracle
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There’s only one very funded blaster main over here

upper karma
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Probably same with all servers

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Pally is the reason DS mains are dying pepeWhy

cyan oracle
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Tell your DS bros and sis to hang in there 😭

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Wait for the rebalance

kindred elk
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Hi guys what are ur ab setup for sia

sly folio
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any tips for manual in mulung? I keep dying to whale

supple forge
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lmao accurate

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tho it would be perfection if we have algol in the gif

slate burrow
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Does sia have a heal skill?

tall schooner
storm dove
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What hyper skills and stats are recommended to raise?

signal wind
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personally if you are trying to play sia as a dps its like trying to put a square peg in a round hole. So many of her skills help the team either not die or do more dmg. Just play her as a power house support/mobber and you will be happy.

dawn needle
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Just Sent my Sia to SF 144

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Wish me luck guys

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Hopefully no death

dawn needle
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Nvm died rip

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Anyone know what's the best hyper stuff for Sia?

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A.k.a level 141 skill stuff

upper karma
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Appear cd cutter imo

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And then appear duration

sly folio
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@signal wind oh prebuff as in get from sf party or ones from content shop?

signal wind
sly folio
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so do I need to manual ?

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I suck at manual

signal wind
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yep lol

signal wind
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Man while I wish this burning event was longer . I am at least happy I hit 180. 20 more levels and I can feel op ever 2min lmao

limpid osprey
modest pendant
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Yeah, I'm under halfway to 190. Wishing I'd not burned my Evan to 200, since I'd probably be 200 on Sia now lol

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Especially considering my Evan burning was only 197 to 200 feelsmushroomman

dusk swan
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How to get that weapon skin?

storm dove
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How do you guys level so fast? I'm still at 148.

hazy talon
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if u dont spend money u wont lvl fast

slender gate
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like this

tall schooner
tall schooner
outer solar
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where the Vskills at

golden obsidian
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Is that anchor constellation (lvl 150) any good?

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Ig it's good for bossing

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And izar good for mobbing

cosmic axle
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anyone have a recommended AB wheel and constellation enhancements for SF144? paptea

tall schooner
tall schooner
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If Izar can one shot mobs then go for Izar

cosmic axle
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or did you already haha im still searching

tall schooner
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I use different wheels for different SF maps tho haha and I don’t train at 144 so I’m not really sure

cosmic axle
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oh i dont mind playing around and testing out

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just wanted some pointers cause my wheel needs help lololol

tall schooner
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I use what @sand aspen recommended at SF194, bunny + Vega + Equlaize Anchor

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I find that it’s pretty consistentMusicMushroom

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But if you have enough damage at SF144, I think Lizard + Vega + Equalize Izar clears mobs faster

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If you die sometimes then add Fomalhaut in your wheel and pick the -30% DMG reduction enhancement I guess

cyan oracle
quasi egret
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Anyone have recommendation for AB wheel?

storm dove
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Is Canopus good? I'm struggling to find a way to sneak it into my auto battle

static burrow
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How do I activate sia 150 hyper skill?

golden obsidian
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Guys can yall show me your sia s gear for sf 144 survival

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Just reached sf144 on her

storm dove
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Canopus feels like a bossing skill.

golden obsidian
golden obsidian
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So ig in higher sf it will be better

strange laurel
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Wonder if anyone regrets cutting

edgy mural
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Sia is still a good class to play

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Just not a class for those dps minded players to main

main cliff
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With all the hype I expected more than a farmer with a joke of a combo system

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Smh lol

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Can't even AB properly

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Can't boss.

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Good for meso farming? I guess

strange laurel
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I know how a few have gotten lvl 200. Can you guys post the v skills

cosmic axle
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rushing to pull up 1 constellation for an immediate use case is difficult, slow, and annoying

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i would say its even more difficult to support since they could just buff lines/skill dmg for individual skills which directly influences dps whereas to support you need the whole process and that can't be fixed until you change how the class works entirely

slate burrow
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Magic guard can’t be cancelled so might be difficult to cast if those boss have potion cool-down

strange laurel
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U know what ticks me off about this class..buff duration

upper karma
dawn needle
cyan oracle
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Folmalhaut dmg reduc is great

main cliff
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Needs to be 4 in instead of 12 for the combos period. Too slow and clunky. This is just another meso and node farmer for now.

cyan oracle
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Yup

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There’s not much of a reason to bring Sia into boss parties when they’ve been doing fine without her all along

cosmic axle
upper karma
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Yeah

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This was with lvl 1 mythic weap

cosmic axle
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do you prioritize any constellation?

upper karma
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The conch for 30% dmg reduc but might not have needed it

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I didn’t try to optimize appear timing either

umbral relic
upper karma
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I memorized combos for Vega, conch shells, bellatrix and 150 skill. When I don’t need to use those constellations, I just spam ray. And put 150 skill as the equalizer skill so I have extra burst for later stages.

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If needed, use pole with no markings to proc the hats

cyan oracle
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@upper karma omg Sia main

upper karma
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But getting SicSiaFut onto the leaderboard is a dream

cyan oracle
upper karma
static burrow
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You cannot use canopus until level 180?

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Even though it is the 150 hyper skill?

odd lantern
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can

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but u cant use the one with 2 possible constellation upgrade

storm dove
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Capella is 170

random flame
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how do i make Sia eat less pots

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too entitled

storm dove
#

That person looks like they causally beat Round 30 meanwhile I'm out here struggling.

viral radish
#

Here's a trick

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Up jump as it starts to attack, glide to the opposite side, spam ray

lime meteor
#

Is sia a good alt mesos farmer? I am ready to upgrade her gear upto sf168 for mesos farm only, (vega looks good) but looking at how clunky her AB gameplay is I'm reconsidering my options. I'm looking for effecient farming

viral radish
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Sia is probably not the class for that

upper karma
#

If your gears are decent enough you can survive decently

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With the conch shell enhancement of 30% dmg reduction

viral radish
#

She does have good aoe when she gets her constellations off

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I was thinking more in terms of mobility

summer geode
viral radish
tall schooner
upper karma
#

But what’s the cap?

viral radish
#

Only level 205 too

robust monolith
summer geode
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Just one minute

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Long time weak

leaden dust
#

You guys can try put off the "Appear" buff from pet, i've tried some test AB

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Everytime the "Appear" buff active it cause the Constellation combo messed up

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I think the Appear Buff is Bugged, it will reset the Order of the Preset skill on cast

odd lantern
#

its messed up if u have boom AND ray on ur wheel

random flame
#

wow

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i got skemmed

robust monolith
#

technically it messes up even if you have ray only or boom only, its just that the results are same

random flame
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they left instantly and i won pyramid

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LOL

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nvm my a2s bishop needs exp kek

robust monolith
#

^ thats happened to me

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for the past 2 days

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i won all 3 games

random flame
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yea its fine for me

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i need exp now

robust monolith
#

honestly the rewards arent even worth your time

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just get the 200 coins as fast as you can

random flame
#

it is if you can end it asap

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1m mesos in that timing

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is probably the fastest?

robust monolith
#

but that game is just bullshit

random flame
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ok im migrating to a2s lmao

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this treasure chest account is gd stuff

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2018 life

robust monolith
#

what is more bullshit that the pyramid game though is sia's preset autobattle

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i dont think nexon is ever going to fucking fix this shit

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ive sent multiple reports and they havent even responded

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

random flame
#

Sia is useless

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give up at 160

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LOL

robust monolith
#

^

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but fuck those abilities look pretty

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and honestly i like the design and concept of constellation skills

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its just this bug is so damn annoying

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and its not even that difficult of a fix

leaden dust
# odd lantern its messed up if u have boom AND ray on ur wheel

Why you put Ray and Boom on your Wheel?
sorry if i get you wrong, but for AB i put them in Preset and i use 5 Button skill wheel in this order

  1. Equalize >> Izar
  2. Ray - Link - Ray - Ray >> Vega
  3. Boom - Pole - Boom - Boom >> Fomalhaut
  4. Ray - Pole - Boom - Ray >> Bellatrix
  5. 4x Boom >>Algol
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and i'm not seen any mess up for like 1 hour AB

odd lantern
#

i dont set incombination

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i do either boom or ray

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not mix match

leaden dust
#

why not?

odd lantern
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its just my play style

leaden dust
#

because the Preset is for AB

odd lantern
#

i notice alot of mix up

leaden dust
#

ofcourse it is if you not using the Preset

odd lantern
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i call it constellation void

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its preset sir

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im so lazy to elaborate

leaden dust
odd lantern
#

u ever cast ray ray bom bom?

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and ended up with nothing?

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thats what combining them will do

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12 casts ended up with nth

leaden dust
#

tbh i already have memory muscle about Sia skill to Manual her

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why should i cast Ray Ray Boom Boom lmao

odd lantern
#

we discussing about AB

leaden dust
#

yea yea

odd lantern
#

when u logout

leaden dust
#

i mean

odd lantern
#

u knw when ur skill have cooldown the stupid AB system gonna skip either pole or link bcoz of that

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leading to void constellation?

leaden dust
#

i got the Constellation void thingy you said

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but when i put the Appear out

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it not skip Pole or Link anymore

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it skip whole Preset

odd lantern
#

good for u

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i have not experience such pleasure in my sia

leaden dust
#

have you try put the Appear out and AB?

odd lantern
#

yes and i didnt experience such as stated above

leaden dust
cyan oracle
#

Stellar Equalize should be 1 min cooldown

signal wind
#

^ this

storm dove
#

Ummm I think I accidentally places myself in 2nd under the Expert Dojo

sand aspen
#

@leaden dust you can start reading here downward. I tried explaining what HumbleGuy was trying to say as best as I can and its too long to keep repeating lol

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But i mean obviously everyone has their own style by now and what I mentioned so far gave me 100% constellation up time for me regardless of the party. So im sticking with it. I guess it may work differently in different parties in different SF. so i guess you just gotta try what work for you

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On the side note, i got no issue with Appear

robust monolith
#

^

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Although i wish there was a way to have two fusions with pole or link in a skill wheel without one preset skipping every time

ionic anvil
#

died on floor 30 mulong earlier. every new try I cant even pass 28. sad

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soon

upper karma
ionic anvil
upper karma
cyan oracle
viral radish
#

Can be done with max level unique, just takes a bunch of time

ionic anvil
#

i bought buffs and cleared floor 30

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worth? probably not XD

storm dove
#

You can do it!

gray marlin
#

I’m trying to convince myself it’s just a dumb cosmetic 🥲

cyan oracle
#

You’re clearing the mission

robust monolith
#

this sounds good, but capella buff duration increase requires lvl 190..

ionic anvil
robust monolith
#

from a youtube comment

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i also thought of izar before fomalhaut but there is a higher chance of mess up

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okay so far its working decently

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fomalhaut isnt up 24/7 thats the only problem

upper karma
robust monolith
#

yes

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do not put capella on preset though

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you can put capella on command

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and then use it manual

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and then turn on AB

zenith thorn
#

My Sia is currently Lv. 173 and I have found the following skill wheel to work pretty reliably:

  1. Equalize : Izar
  2. Preset 1 : Boom Boom
  3. Pole
  4. Link

I find that this rotation will also cast all necessary dps + buff constellations periodically and still provide a ton of uptime for Fomalhaut dmg reduction.

You can make a preset for Capella and pre-cast it before you start your AB, and it will have an adequate uptime as long as Equalize proc’s in your rotation before Capella expires.

robust monolith
#

you need level 190 for increase capella duration

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that is going to take forever

zenith thorn
#

True, but you could take a gamble on how long you have Capella uptime. I will try to track how long of an uptime I have next time I’m auto’ing in SF 144.

cyan oracle
#

Lvl 168 now, will be able to test out Capella too, soon

viral radish
#

Capella is great in 144

torpid slate
#

is this character locked to 1 gender like AB?

cyan oracle
modest pendant
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I use Inner Fire for more FD, and AB maintains it just fine

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Fomalhaut -> Algol -> Bellatrix -> Capella -> Vega (Equalize) is my wheel setup and it works perfectly. Pretty much never lose uptime on any buff

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I'm 193 and typical clearspeeds on any 180 team haven't affected it.

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The AB also always waits till a buff goes offline to recast it pretty much, so there's always a short delay no matter what

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So Winter won't fix that.

robust monolith
modest pendant
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That's why it's a waste to put Equalize on for that

robust monolith
#

But putting equaliser on that is really the only way to have fomalhaut and vega up at the same time without the stellagram messing up

modest pendant
#

I literally have my wheel setup with Fomalhaut and Capella as normal casts with Vega on Equalize

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I don't have that problem

robust monolith
#

Is your capella increased duration?

modest pendant
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No

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I use FD

robust monolith
#

Is that the other option

modest pendant
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Yes

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5% FD

robust monolith
#

Wait so how does that work

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So the buff will run out

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And then equaliser casts and you get buff again?

modest pendant
#

Capella buff runs out for 3-4 seconds and my AB is already in the middle of recasting almost every time

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Bellatrix gets renewed before it runs out pretty consistently

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Vega just gets recast essentially as soon as Equalize is off CD

robust monolith
modest pendant
#

No, I just said it's 3-4 seconds

robust monolith
#

But the duration of equaliser is 2 minutes

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And capella is 90 seconds isnt it

modest pendant
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Because I don't use Equalizer on Capella, as I said lol

robust monolith
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No equaliser on vega

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And vega is the only thing that reset capella

modest pendant
#

I use Winter on Vega w/ Equalize

robust monolith
#

I dont actually have capella on skill wheel

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My plan was to just activate it once

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And have vega reset it

modest pendant
#

Fomalhaut -> Algol -> Bellatrix -> Capella -> Vega (Equalize) is my wheel setup

robust monolith
#

Because if you cast vega while capella is up, capella duration is reset

modest pendant
#

Right, I just have so little downtime on it that it never actually matters

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Which is part of why I think picking Winter is worse than picking the Final Damage

robust monolith
#

Yeah

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I dont want to put capella or bellatrix

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Because they use ray

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And messes up with algol and fomahaut

modest pendant
#

Yeah, I don't really experience that

robust monolith
#

I dont want to end up with something like boom bokm ray ray

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Because of the bug

modest pendant
#

I just don't really experience that bug

robust monolith
#

So i just have vega equalise, algol and fomalhuat

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And cast capella at the start

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Manually

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And it resets every time

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So i dont have to cast capella during autobattle

signal wind
#

Prettt much

hazy talon
cyan oracle
#

@modest pendant so your presets are more of making sure Capella is casted consistently but the skill casts will still mess up from time to time right?

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Cuz that’s what I’m experiencing with your suggested presets haha

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Or am I doing something wrong

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Btw I’m not saying it’s bad, just want to find out more

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😅

modest pendant
#

Is the order on your wheel the one I said? Just to be clear.

I rarely experience the bad cast thing unless I've interrupted AB doing something, is why I ask

main cliff
# hazy talon MSM new Walking simulator

Lol I mean on the bright side with all the damage reduction it wont take much to gear up for farming nodes and meso. Getting mine to 200 then it becomes a node mule

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Cause kinesis has broken ass drop mechanics with the grab feelsmushroomman

regal wolf
cyan oracle
#

Hey guys I should go for these hyper passives right?

upper karma
#

I seen a kmsm person take off appear cd cutter for shorter content

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But unless you’re balling with crystals it’s not worth it

cyan oracle
cyan oracle
#

When your Sia 200

viral radish
#

Marking persist for link additional damage I assume? OH_peepoThink

summer geode
signal wind
#

Honestly I dont know if thats good or not lmao

edgy mural
#

Given that Sia is only strong due to her wolf burst

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that's quite meh

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Since her damage during her V2 downtime is really really bad

#

I think its best to use Sia as a support role

vapid hare
#

Is there any way to configure equalize so the skill changes when I change to a different preset?

signal wind
#

not that I know of no

green forge
#

Given Sia damage only comes from her V skills with a long cooldown, her GD within a minute must hit more than 1b to sort of compensate her shit damage during V skill cooldown

cyan oracle
#

Using Fomalhaut and Vega only at sf158
Equalize - Fomalhaut

Fomalhaut - dmg reduc
Vega - hit count increase

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Hope this can help me survive in sf158 for another hour 😂

#

Less is more?

#

Wolves are kinda painful
90% both mp and hp pots

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fml

hazy talon
#

For wolve u should be trying to kill fast than taking mag dmg

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Since phy dmg touching them is low

cyan oracle
hazy talon
ionic anvil
#

hitting 160 tmrw PikaUhhh

stoic glacier
#

Kmsm Sia at 4th place inside Lotus PikaUhhh

green forge
#

Kmsm Sia is their own, Gmsm Sia is a different thing

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It aint apple to apple comparison

upper karma
hazy talon
#

Regardless of the gear system diff

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The skill mechanics all the same

#

which means the output result is almost equivalent and relative to be used for comparison and reference

summer geode
lapis anchor
#

But Sia is much harder to play compared to many other mages, so… NM_peepoShrugSmile

signal wind
#

its not that she is hard to play. You just need to put a lot of effort for very meh results.

upper karma
#

But 810m with 17.7m is kinda nuts

#

Sia’s support isn’t game breaking like bishop’s

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Although it would be nice for the party, it isn’t needed

dawn needle
#

5% Chance ConfusedHornyMushroom

upper karma
#

NERF

dawn needle
upper karma
#

Your luck

dawn needle
#

Wdym it's either 50/50.

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A.k.a it succeeds.
Or it fails.

upper karma
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It’s 0.50% bc nexon

dawn needle
dawn needle
#

XD

upper karma
#

Only guaranteed way to keep emb is to rank up

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Fuse makes a whole new weapon

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So it doesn’t keep emb

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Still have a chance to be emb but chance is super low

dawn needle
#

Oh. I was gonna do that anyway with the 10x unique rank up stones from Sia event creation. Just asking for curiosity purposes.

upper karma
#

That’s good

faint wyvern
#

Does anyone know what the "additional damage triggered by Ray, Boom, Pole, and Link" is? The text shows up in the Marking - Extra Strike and Marking - Reinforce hyper skills.

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Is it just the 2 additional dmg hit count described in Link?

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Does it also include enhanced pole?

viral radish
#

Marking - Persist increases the duration of the enhanced pole/link which I don’t think is that good

faint wyvern
#

oops I meant Marking - Reinforce

viral radish
#

Marking - reinforce will effect the third attacks

faint wyvern
#

Have you confirmed that

viral radish
#

No, but that’s what I assumed when I read “additional damage”

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Testing hit count should be relatively easy though

faint wyvern
#

if it's only the 2 additional hit count applied to ray and boom from boosted Link buff, then marking extra strike is far better paptea

upper karma
#

Marking is the attack that marks the constellation so what restore was saying is correct

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The third hit gets extra lines

faint wyvern
#

Oh that makes sense, should have just read the name of the hyper skill PhaZe

upper karma
#

Nah it’s kinda hard to know since “marking” isn’t its own skill

faint wyvern
#

so I'm still conflicted on which 5 hyper skills to add

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I know that everyone seems to agree on Stellar Marking - Reinforce Duration, Appear - Cooldown Cutter, and Appear - Enhance

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I see you recommended Marking - Persist but Restore said it doesn't seem that good 🤔

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and then there's Marking - Reinforce, Marking - Extra Strike, Appear - Enhance

viral radish
#

Adding 3 seconds to enhanced pole and 5 seconds to enhanced link seems kind of bad to me

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Even though enhanced link will give you more additional lines for Ray and boom, I think it might be better to go all in on appear hyper skills

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So Appear x3, Marking - Extra Strike, Stellar Marking - Reinforce Duration

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My sf hyper skills are different than this though and it’s kind of troll ppclownWHATSip

upper karma
#

Was there a hyper for starlight lines? I forget

#

But lines is still king, especially when I don’t see any problem of sia having trouble capping skills

viral radish
#

I have it for sf but it’s not that great

upper karma
#

Yeah it isn’t that good imo

viral radish
#

The reason why I wouldn’t go for Marking - Persist is because I’d rather have 90 seconds of 20% fd from Appear hypers than 5 extra seconds of 2 additional lines

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And downtime for link with Marking - Persist is 30 seconds and 15 seconds with appear?

upper karma
#

Yeah I guess Stellar marking reinforce duration is pretty nice. It’s wasted if you cap all your skills tho

viral radish
#

Yea

upper karma
#

So I would go with marking extra strike, marking persist, stellar marking enhance, appear persist, and appear cd cutter

viral radish
#

Would you you also keep that for farming?

upper karma
#

Yeah I don’t see why not

#

There’s lot of constellation enhances to help with surviving

#

No need to waste hyper passives imo

cyan oracle
#

Anyone here think Sia’s skill casts are kinda slow?

#

Or it’s the having to cast marking skills 12 times that’s making it feel slow

viral radish
#

This’ll increase your attack speed to help you cast constellations quicker

boreal trench
# summer geode 17.64M

How you reach cap with Sia? While pole, link, shine in cooldown you will hit with ray or boom?

boreal trench
#

Why are you using ray?

#

If then trio node mainly aim for ray?

ionic anvil
#

whats sia culvert strategy

tall schooner
cyan oracle
#

Perfect trios for Sia

cyan oracle
boreal trench
#

The nodes giving fd to the elementary skill too

cyan oracle
#

🤦‍♂️

tall schooner
#

Ohh oops didn’t read them in detail lol

boreal trench
#

So should one trio give 6 skills fd increase, not bad indeed

#

4-6 at least, starlight counted 1

cyan oracle
#

So it's like Evan's fusion skill

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As in how the fd% is allocated to the marking skills^

boreal trench
#

3 max lvl trio for Sia isn't bad too, since giving 200-300% fd to 4-6 skill

cyan oracle
#

What's Sia's bossing like for you so far? I find the skill casting to be rather clunky

cyan oracle
boreal trench
boreal trench
cyan oracle
boreal trench
#

Yea, don't know how Sia perform in late, since her skill is like summoning, her skill keep attacking while you are casting another skills

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For me now, using 40 ancient, much enough in mobbing alone, but not good in bossing compare to other bossing dps job

cyan oracle
boreal trench
#

No emblem, I am going necro

tall schooner
#

Damn Mag Ark Crit Rate! Great for mobbingThumbsupZakum

cyan oracle
#

🫡 amazing

#

nice flames

boreal trench
boreal trench
cyan oracle
boreal trench
cyan oracle
#

transfer around alts

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and mastercraft

boreal trench
#

Any level requirement other than sf160?

#

Yea, I might finish my lucky mastercraft scroll first, all failed then I train my alt for this haha

cyan oracle
#

Wait, not sure what’s the level requirement, lvl 140?

boreal trench
#

Not sure too, try sf160 first lol

cyan oracle
#

I'm using Algol, Izar and Equalize - Capella for mobbing now

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Burning potions without Fomalhaut though LOL

#

Wait I just realised I don't need to equalize capella

#

The skill wheel allows me to refresh Capella with Izar

boreal trench
#

Yes, Capella will be keep refreshed by Izar, Vega or Canopus

#

For my early game I use Vega since it keep attacking and keep monsters away from me

#

Sia has mp shield, either Fomalhaut or other skill like Vega to minimize monster hit, EVD also good to save pots

cyan oracle
#

as long as you can survive the boss you're good to go

cyan oracle
#

yeeeeee

cyan oracle
#

This hyper will be needed for end game bossing I suppose?

#

Or unnecessary

#

10% fd for all skill casts vs 3 hit counts after every 12 marking skill cast

#

🤔

upper karma
#

So lines still king

#

Albeit not much but better than nothing

cyan oracle
#

i'll stick to the fd increase for now

strange breach
#

Hi guys, what is the recommended AB setup for sia lvl 160?

cyan oracle
#

Fomalhaut, Algol, Equalize - Vega if you need the dmg reduc

random flame
#

give up bois

#

delete Sia at 160

drifting sandal
#

No

hazy talon
#

so much investment

#

but still cant 1hit

#

LOL

upper karma
hazy talon
upper karma
#

Unless it’s like first hit of vega lol

#

Still it’s great mobber

cyan oracle
#

Hahaha

#

Yeah the presets aren’t working properly

#

Sia needs some fixing and buffs

#

I thinking I might be able to push to f46 for Sia with full buffs

#

More dps now with Canopus winter phase

upper karma
#

First to clear f46 in mu lung

cyan oracle
#

Kerning tower

torpid slate
#

for sia alt, you guys just use the legendary weapon from the growth event to do mulung floor30? or it's better to self craft a jaihan weapon for her

cyan oracle
#

Used food buffs from kerning tower and guild shop too

#

Very doable

torpid slate
#

awesome, what level for sia to be able to do that? 160?

cyan oracle
#

You can start trying once you get the weapon

#

But higher level means less missing

torpid slate
#

just +13 lv1 is enough?

cyan oracle
#

I cleared around lvl 150+

#

Accuracy buff from mu lung shop will be very helpful

#

I suggest getting one

torpid slate
#

okay noted. Btw may I know your skill preset for that? im a bit clueless on sia stuff. 💀

torpid slate
#

just reached 140, tonight should be 141

cyan oracle
#

Nice!

#

You clear mu lung until what floor already?

#

I suggest using skip floor

#

Use vega + antares + fomalhaut

#

I didn’t use preset for f30, i click on the skills manually

torpid slate
#

i think max floor 23 atm x.x

lapis anchor
#

Guys, wanna ask if Sia will get any special abilities after clearing all Oort story quests?

#

Something like Shade's main story quest, their lv150 hyper buff will gain special ability

signal wind
#

yes her invuln skill

#

thats the only one I know of.

slate burrow
cyan oracle
lapis anchor
#

Which skill exactly ah? I need to cross-check my two Sias to see the difference 😂

cyan oracle
#

Wow i didn't know got extra skill

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pls dun tell me is the lvl 150 skill from commander

lapis anchor
#

Tbh I’m too sure which skill is enhanced

#

But definitely not that lv150 one

cyan oracle
#

phew

#

ooo enhanced?

lapis anchor
#

I thought the story stops when Sia reaches Ellinia

lapis anchor
#

I’m thinking of something similar to shades

cyan oracle
cyan oracle
#

amazing

lapis anchor
#

Yeah.. if 😂😂

signal wind
#

What does shade get?

lapis anchor
# signal wind What does shade get?

Their lv150 hyper will be enhanced, so that livers will drop from monsters upon attacking (something like Playing Fox in Legends)

looting the liver will extend their lv150 buff duration.

ionic anvil
#

finally sf130

#

14 more

stoic glacier
#

Lines go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

#

Disclaimer, thats a one minute rundown thou. Should we get the newly revamped dummy system which runs under a 5 min rundown of dps measurement, the damage you see in the video wont be as significant or impressive

cyan oracle
#

The comment 🤣🤣🤣

#

Accurate 👌

cyan oracle
#

@tall schooner hi moonbean
Is there an A1 chat for Sia players that i can join

tall schooner
cyan oracle
tall schooner
#

Sent you a DM

hazy talon
#

HAHAHAHAHHA

hazy talon
upper karma
cyan oracle
upper karma
# cyan oracle T0 during burst, Sewerage tier without burst

I don’t think it’s too bad. Shine is 120s cd at lvl 1 which means technically 1 wolf every 2 mins or 2 every 2 mins with equalizer. But it does depend how much depends an extra wolf does since for content like GD/GHB/dummy, you can prep 1 wolf without costs.

cyan oracle
#

3 wolves can be casted during the first 3 minutes

#

Prep 1 wolf, wait for Shine cooldown to end
Summon wolf, equalize wolf,
Duration end -> 3rd wolf

#

I still think 1st -> 4th job skills need more lines

upper karma
#

Agreed

lapis anchor
#

How long is the cool-down for shine?

upper karma
#

120s when not leveled

#

I think someone said 95s when maxed?

lapis anchor
#

Oh..

lapis anchor
upper karma
#

Yes

#

Basically do 3 markings then wait for shine to go off cd.

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Then you start the run

cyan oracle
#

@upper karma you sound like a Sia main bro

stoic glacier
upper karma
#

DS is dead, like me

cyan oracle
boreal trench
#

There, 1 min T0, >1 min T99

worldly summit
#

Hi iris 👋

#

So

#

Main issues:

  1. Incorrect hyper passive description
#
  1. Enhanced Link buff does not add +2 hit count to our attacks
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Take Ray Enhancement as an example

#

It has 9 hits

#

I allocated a point into Marking - Extra strike

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It now has 10 hits

#

As seen from the image above

#

So what’s the problem?

#

The hyper passive description states that it “increases the hit count of the additional damage triggered by ray…”

#

Additional damage referring to:

#

Referring to Additional damage added by the buff that Enhanced Link provides

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I am assuming the dev’s intention was to add a hit count to Ray, Boom, Pole and Link
And it is working correctly, all my marking skills have +1 hit count

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Which brings me to issue number 2

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Enhanced Link provides a buff that adds 2 hit counts to Ray and Boom as seen from the yellow underline

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But Enhanced Link does nothing at all

distant bison
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but it seems to be missing the Enhanced Link Additional DMG Hit Count correct?

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and additional damage?

worldly summit
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No additional hit count is added
No additional skill damage is added

distant bison
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got it! Than you for the detailed summary!

worldly summit
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This is a screenshot of Enhanced Ray with the Enhanced Link buff

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It is still 10 lines

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😅

distant bison
worldly summit
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The enhanced link buff is the one at the bottom left of the buff bar

distant bison
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I will include it in my report today! I super appreciate all the details and the screenshots as well! It really helps when explaining the issue to the team AthenaHeart

worldly summit
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Thanks for spending time to look at my super long message too 😭

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Just wanted to make sure that the +1 hit count to all marking skills does not get removed

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And that the Enhanced Link buff hit count be added into our damage lines

distant bison
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no worries at all! Its what Im here for AthenaHeart

Sorry if I reply late sometimes F4 But I'll always response as quickly as possible!

worldly summit
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Your response was superrr fast

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🫡

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I will go sleep now, 4:14 am hahahah

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Thanks again Iris!

robust monolith
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@sand aspen

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THEY FIXING SIA BUG

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YESSSS

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it only took like

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3 weeks LOL

worldly summit
robust monolith
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the one where she casts

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walks around a bit

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and then casts again

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total of 3 times but no marking

worldly summit
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Ooooo

robust monolith
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which is why you can sometimes end up with boom boom ray ray

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i filed a report day one

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at least they finally fix it thank god

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i thought this was never going to be fixed

worldly summit
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Wow if that gets fixed

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@distant bison Hi iris sorry for the ping again 😅😭
Turns out I had to use the original setting for damage lines if i wanted to see all the lines for an attack displayed
So there’s no problem with enhanced link at all ThumbsupZakum

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The new setting allows some lines to be overlapped which I couldn’t see