Battle Mage

[night grotto]

so much cooler than fpm imo

[cosmic ice]

It's so unfair to have that much of power unlocked

[dire holly]

It’s not cool though

[cosmic ice]

And not being able to ab with it hahaha

What a tease

[dire holly]

Teleporting makes all the lightning show up but you can’t use tp in ab

So it’s virtually only used for aesthetics lol

[cosmic ice]

What were the requirements for normal Damien runs on your parties prepatch?

[night grotto]

22

[cosmic ice]

Was it like 170k HP 25m CP?

[night grotto]

160k hp

oh

prepatch

[dire holly]

I never ran Damien pre patch

[night grotto]

22m 160khp

i think

[dire holly]

I was told 25m the heck

[cosmic ice]

Your bam seems to be above the mins no?

[night grotto]

this is fpm ab not as cool

[unborn vale]

[night grotto]

i think it depends on the comp

[dire holly]

Now it is lol

[cosmic ice]

160k total prehb or 160 is what you need to tank something

[night grotto]

you want to be able to tank dash and blue balls

[dire holly]

On the bright side it adds to your mobbing ability lol

[cosmic ice]

Wait for hexa 😅 on of the coolest origins

[night grotto]

just a lot of balls

yeah I saw it it's pretty cool

idk if we'll ever get that

[cosmic ice]

Me neither

[dire holly]

lol

More balls than bw

[cosmic ice]

More than shade

Like wth

[night grotto]

should be easier to reach hp requirements for bam bc of hb and 30% hp passive

i think cap and mechanics would be the issue

[cosmic ice]

I'm at 152k prebuffs

[night grotto]

you'll have to reroll some of your gear to hp then

[dire holly]

Cap for sure is always an issue

[night grotto]

thats what i did

[dire holly]

What’s the crit res on Damien again?

[night grotto]

good question

LMAO

[dire holly]

Lol

[night grotto]

says 40% on commander page

[dire holly]

Trying to see if I’ll still have 100% cr without fair trade but I don’t think it’s possible

[cosmic ice]

It's 40 ied

[dire holly]

Ied is different from crit resistance

[cosmic ice]

For chads who went chaos route it is 😂

[night grotto]

you'd want 170% crit rate total

i rerolled some hypers for it

[dire holly]

170%

[night grotto]

legion/ and link skills give crit res

[cosmic ice]

Yeah sounds about roght

[night grotto]

if you have crit res classes itll drop

[dire holly]

Yea I think I’m short about 30%

[night grotto]

like bishop pally

[dire holly]

Because if I’m on altar duty I can’t fair trade

[cosmic ice]

Isn't ft a toggle?

[dire holly]

It is but it’s a hassle to toggle mid fight

Don’t want to fumble around

[cosmic ice]

Fair

What's your MDC change after patch? I guess the more progress you had before the higher the increase

[dire holly]

Yea

[cosmic ice]

16.8>21m

[dire holly]

Pretty significant

[night grotto]

good luck

bam shield useful tho

[dire holly]

22.31 -> 28.91 roughly

I want mdc lucid soul now LOL

[dire holly]

It’s alright

[night grotto]

in damien

[dire holly]

I don’t have a single hyper point in it lol

I have blue aura hyper instead

[dawn python]

I still think make our alter secondary trigger a toggle would improve its ab utility.

But big yes to make battle burst trigger v4.

Just make battle burst able to trigger dark brand dmg. That would do the trick

[cosmic ice]

It dosent ?

[gilded oriole]

sheesh

[dawn python]

@cosmic ice

[cosmic ice]

Welp

Did anyone tested how lding down actually provid the same amount of casts as spamming?

[rigid frost]

Is this what we’re meant to do to “trigger” dark shock during V4?

I can’t see when invincibility is applied too

And those portals… is it sticky for you guys?? I’m not used to swiping upward

[dawn python]

Actually having battle trigger ds won’t necessarily mean it will trigger v4. Since our fb and v1 also trigger ds. But I don’t notice them triggering v4 atm. So the change needs to be specific and making battle burst trigger v4. I’m just saying maybe allow it to also trigger ds as part of the change.

[dire holly]

It applies dark brand but doesn’t actually proc it so it won’t proc lightning with v4

So the suggestion to getting added aoe from v4 in ab is to make it similar to that of tp in that casting procs v4 lightning

[dire holly]

It’s applied at the beginning but the timeframe is short

Probably less than a second

I think it happens right as you cast it

Haven’t test the portals yet

[dawn python]

Wish you best of luck to get the battle burst suggestion through. It would vastly help our mobbing issues atm.

[dire holly]

I’ll try

[unborn vale]

Ive watched bam AB a bit now and like you said v4 is just v2 dependent

When the altars are pinging its clearing the map, but a bit rng if they get placed in AB

[dire holly]

Yea

Mobbing won’t improve much in ab

Also, I managed to get 22,600 lines with a few mistakes on 3 minutes

But I believe we’re changing to a 2 minute setup

[cosmic ice]

Game looks silliy with v4

[dire holly]

It looks sick with v4

And I’m glad we can see it when effects are at 0

[dire holly]

I don’t think it’s sticky, I think there’s just a reuse cooldown on portal so that you don’t accidentally use it twice and miss out on the action

[rigid frost]

Hmm ok, I’ll observe it for now

[dire holly]

It doesn’t trigger v4 because it needs to attack a mob that’s branded

There’s two steps to it

[rigid frost]

Lol

[dire holly]

First is to apply dark brand

Second is to attack

[rigid frost]

I like it! I just did cra and that lightning looks so strong

[dire holly]

Teleporting works different because it automatically triggers lightning @dawn python

[rigid frost]

You tap it?

Someone suggested to use this in lotus p1 lol but I’m scared

[dire holly]

To use the skill? Yea

I think it will be good to use in Damien

[rigid frost]

I’m talking bout entering the portal .. unless it’s just my fat fingers 😐

[dire holly]

Lotus would be fine but if no one sees the skill they may accidentally press up on some unknown area and move on top of a laser

[dire holly]

You just press the up arrow key

Like using a portal

[rigid frost]

LOL disastrous

[dire holly]

The stickiness you’re referring to is when using the portal right?

If you’re trying to go back through the portal, I think there’s a reuse cooldown but that’s intended

[rigid frost]

OH

So the 0.5 reactivating cool-down applies to going in and out of portals too

[dire holly]

I think portals have a longer reactivating cooldown

[rigid frost]

Would you…… alternate using v1 and v4?

[dire holly]

I…

Would say to use it whenever it’s available, however, in certain bosses that are more mobile you will want to manually cast v4 to make the most out of the burst

So timing is everything is you want to make the most out of v4

[rigid frost]

Ok thanks, I think I’ll have it on skill wheel for now 🥳

[dire holly]

Yw!

Alternatively, you can place it on pets if you’re lazy, but I feel like you may bot be fully utilizing the 40 seconds if you do that

Depends on the boss

[rigid frost]

Yeah whahahaha
I’m thinking when v1 is down, to use v4 + teleport cause that lightning thing seems to hit the boss no matter where you stand in the map, but not sure bout the dmg ..

[dire holly]

Teleport lightning will only do 5% to bosses and may not be better than just holding down your main-skill button

Have you tried the hold-down function yet? It’s a game changer

[rigid frost]

Not yet?

[dire holly]

You must

[unborn vale]

Nice work @dire holly

I definitely messed up my battle analysis

[cosmic ice]

you cant see the platforms

[dire holly]

Looks even cooler! Lol

[cosmic ice]

🤷‍♂️

"its not a bug its a feature"

[outer crane]

Hi everyone
I’ve done the test whether using teleport during V4.
And in my opinion, no teleporting is better

Without teleport

With teleport

You can see V1 got more hits without teleporting

[rigid frost]

I see, so v4+v1

[rigid frost]

Thanks for testing!

[unborn vale]

Thanks @outer crane

[outer crane]

Nice

[lost epoch]

Holy that looks so cool 😮

[cosmic ice]

Wait... You went from 14k to21k???

Just from the update

[dire holly]

Yea!

[cosmic ice]

Apparently we also got maplewarrior for free

4% fd

[outer crane]

Yes lol

[cosmic ice]

Few expiring buffs (still not capping) 1b 😳 not sure how much I would've done prepatch but that definitely a big hump

[cosmic ice]

That's insane lol. I assuming both v4 and common are maxed

[outer crane]

Only V4

[cosmic ice]

What's your adv mw level?

I mean for you I guess it doesn't matter that much since you prob capping each line right?

[outer crane]

I think so, too

[sharp sable]

No way you're capping dark shock!

[outer crane]

lol except dark shock

[smoky fjord]

I'll be taking my leave from this game. I hope battle mages get the buff they really deserve. Good luck guys

[dire holly]

Huuuuh?

Quitting?

[smoky fjord]

Yup it's been a long journey.

[outer crane]

[dire holly]

Wishing you the best!

[cosmic ice]

https://youtu.be/nzDC3FSEMIg?si=EU_86xWwAUO7C6_Q

Horrible culvert run but 5.5 k upgraded to

7.3k*

[cobalt crater]

@outer crane can you confirm if your teammates for Damien can use the V4 portal without Other Skill transparency off? I was testing last night and they can't use the portal with transparency off, but if transparency is on, they can use it.

[dire holly]

[outer crane]

Did you record that?

[cobalt crater]

I was just testing with a friend, no recording

[outer crane]

Okay I’ll test it next week

[rancid estuary]

[unborn vale]

Im guessing new culvert strategy for us is… v1 and v2 on at start, then v3 and v4 on when you hit stage 6?

So we get two rounds of v1/3/4 in 1st and 3rd minutes

I messed it up earlier but 4k more points after patch

[dire holly]

I haven’t figured out the timing but you have to go in right when you have 1 minute cooldown

Well you have to have a minute cooldown right as the boss spawns

Or is it 40 seconds. I can’t think right now lol

So at 80 seconds (1 minute 20 seconds) you want to have v1/v2 up again. This means that v1/v2 cooldown has to start right at the 2 minute mark

So you would then have to activate v1/v2 outside for roughly 10-15 seconds before you press start

[unborn vale]

Need to have a better think of it then haha

I was thinking if you start v1 at start of battle, you get it again with 1 minutes left

[dire holly]

In doing this, you would ideally have 140 seconds of uptime

Hmm

[unborn vale]

Need to get the calculator out

[dire holly]

If we activated v1/v2 at the start…

[unborn vale]

😅

[dire holly]

I guess it works out the same????

[unborn vale]

Yea it does right? 80s plus 60s

[dire holly]

Right?

Ok yea LOL

my way too complex

[unborn vale]

Just not waste v4 on stages 1-5 like i did

[dire holly]

V3 can be used 3 times total

[unborn vale]

Yea i wanted v3 and 4 at the start

[dire holly]

V4 could probably use 20 seconds in

[unborn vale]

Yea this will be best

Anyone tested the iframe on v4 yet?

[dire holly]

Same for the new v4 common skill

I have not

[unborn vale]

Yea i had this on my skill wheel

[dire holly]

Could be decent in lucid though for dodging sickle

So you’re at 14k culvert score?

[unborn vale]

13932

I’m claiming 14 🤣

[dire holly]

Dang op

I need to give it a real try later when I have br

[unborn vale]

But if i do it properly like we just said, maybe 14.5-15?

[dire holly]

Oh easily

[cosmic ice]

whats your v4 / common level now? seems like you got nearly 40% increase

while i got only 30% ish

[dire holly]

Flame rng plays a big role in your potential dps output

[unborn vale]

Common v4 only level 9 😭

[outer crane]

I made culvert score to 23000 last week

Didn’t take a screenshot 😅

[unborn vale]

🫨

Gz that’s huge

[cosmic ice]

+71 chaos.stones , weekly team lotus

Should I attempt chaos the exp weapon ?
O kinda stuck on exalt rn. Hat gloves overall are bricked

Shoes 4/7 after 2 50% fails

3/7 shoulder with 2 no n herit fooders 0/7 already ... Cape is hard to get fooders for

[outer crane]

Exalt to lv50 and craft them into chaos

[unborn vale]

Agree with above

What is the fix for v4 they just released?

[unborn vale]

Oh i see it now, saying about dark brand

[dire holly]

It was clear to me before

[unborn vale]

Yea same i was a bit confused

I think they just added some words to the first line of the description

[dire holly]

Yea that’s what it looks like

I really wish tp could be made to work in ab

[cosmic ice]

the AB mechanics are wayy too simple for teleport to work. ithink if they make every X distance travled proc dark shock would give us what we need

like for real the way AB is working resembles a 9th grader coding project in school 💀

[dire holly]

@unborn vale

Could have maybe reached 16k but I was fumbling a bit since I had effects on lol

[unborn vale]

Nice!!

[unborn vale]

Did you set off v3/4 about 20s in?

[dire holly]

Nope I completely forgot about it LOL

[unborn vale]

Dam even better then

[cobalt crater]

what hyper passives do you use now? @outer crane i noticed in your Damien run you still run Weakening Aura and it looks like you run 30% damage reduction on shield, so im curious to what you put into your other points

[dire holly]

Weakening is bis

The go-to was always weakening aura, dark aura, fb +1 additional line, and fb reinforce

Last point can be put into anything really

If you cap fb then it can go into shield hypers; the most efficient one being shield cooldown.

30% reduction probably makes more sense for when there’s multiple orbs later in the run

[outer crane]

I didn’t give points to shield after V4

Normally you put 3 points to finishing blow, but I suggest you take critical damage to blue arua

[cobalt crater]

why Blue Aura?

[dire holly]

Whoa that’s what I’ve been using

Blue aura is a free dispel every 10 seconds but the activation is a bit random.

I believe the shorter downtime on v1 makes blue aura more useful, but with that said, the usefulness of it varies depending on the boss you’re facing. I can’t imagine it being too useful in Damien or Lucid, unless there’s something I’m missing

In ark you can dispel snake but with how quickly it’s done now, it’s not really relevant lol

[cobalt crater]

i'd assume it's useful for solo content or bishopless commander runs

[dire holly]

Yup

It’s good in solo multi chilla for removing the dmg debuff

The reactivation cooldown is too long so it’s a bit hard to use unless it’s activated manually? I don’t think you can activate its effect if you have a different aura like weakening equipped on pets

[outer crane]

[dire holly]

[unborn vale]

Dam OP

I just did about 6 culvert runs and can’t beat 13,600

😭

Send help

What am I missing

[dire holly]

[dire holly]

This is unbuffed?

[unborn vale]

Yea just with all the self buffs and v1 on

[dire holly]

Hmmm

Your stats are similar to mine except it looks higher?

I’ll have to check later

Are you using sweeping staff?

Fair trade and battle rage I’m sure you’re using right?

[unborn vale]

Yea i had it in with finishing blow

[unborn vale]

Yea

[dire holly]

Hmm

[unborn vale]

I got better score last week when i set v4 off at the start with v3 and infantry

Rather than wait for stage 6

No idea 😭

No boss rush though.. which will give me a little boost

[dire holly]

Hmm

So you’ve tested waiting 20 seconds before casting v4?

Oh what about the v4 common skill?

[unborn vale]

I didn’t use it this week actually, kept in speed infusion

[dire holly]

Hmm

That’s probably worth testing out

[unborn vale]

I thought it’s probably minor difference but I’ll try it out tomorrow

[dire holly]

I think the extra final damage goes a long way even if it’s only temporary

[unborn vale]

Probably set it off at 20s as well?

[dire holly]

Yea

Best used with v4

[unborn vale]

I can’t see it giving me 2k points 🤣

Maybe it will

I’ll record my next try for fun

[dire holly]

Yea it probably won’t but I can’t really think of anything else that you could do to get to 15k points lol

[unborn vale]

Tried again today and got 1000 less score

Not sure whats going on 🤣

[dire holly]

That’s surprising because your mdmg/dmg stats are way higher than mine

Your matk % stat looks quite low but I don’t think that would make that much of a difference

I’ll have to test without boss rush later to see what score I can get to

[unborn vale]

I won’t think about it much as i know we have the revamped culvert coming soon

[dire holly]

Huuuuuh

[sharp sable]

2 min culvert?

[unborn vale]

Isn’t it just the PC one that’s like immortal dungeon

[sharp sable]

idk lol

i only play msm haha

[unborn vale]

I saw it in a kmsm video

There are no flames or platforms and it doesn’t attack

[sharp sable]

[unborn vale]

https://youtu.be/NVJCk8xLBBs?si=7_fk3PEKMzmibgA-

Like this

[outer crane]

We might change it in a few patches

[dire holly]

[lost epoch]

Hi guys. Between RA top and bottom set and chaos overall, which is better? My only concern is that if I switch to the chaos overall, my overall sf is gonna drop by 20

[unborn vale]

I literally i just my bottom to chaos yesterday - you lose the 20 sf (which was 300k mdc for me) but i’ve gained 600k mdc in total from the boost

And about 11k more hp with hp% etc

So i think it worked out well

However if you have level 50 RA top and bottom on both pieces i dont think its really worth the change…

[lost epoch]

I c. Yea my top is lvl 50 but bottom is only 44 lol

[gilded oriole]

for bossing, I do think the mdc from chaos triumphs the sf loss for sure.

[lost epoch]

Ok 🤔

Hmm if that’s the case I’m thinking to get anither 20sf top for AB only for that party exp boost?

[gilded oriole]

There are some factors though.. like where youre at in the sf liberation and what difference the 20sf will make you know? but thats an easy test assuming you have the pieces to compare

Yeah .. i was going to bring that up, for training, top/bottom will help you get pexp gains from sf lib.

[lost epoch]

Right now I’m sf245 in total

[lost epoch]

In bossing gears

[gilded oriole]

ooo

so your theoretical would be 225 with chaos overall? or is the 245 with chaos?

[lost epoch]

225 with chaos overall theoretically

[gilded oriole]

just speaking mdc primarily, 225 and 245 is a 500k mdc difference.

50 chaos overall is 1,359,700 mdc? yea youd still be at net mdc of 859,000, which is a pretty good amount.

[lost epoch]

Uhm not bad tbh

Yea I may try to convert 😅

[gilded oriole]

yeee.

u have a 50 top/bottom ?

[lost epoch]

Only 50 top

Bottom is still 44

Why can’t we just wear the bottom under that overall u know 💀

[gilded oriole]

oo ok. i was going to say for the extra mdc, the cost isn't that bad either.. i think.. granted you land the chaos tap. how much would it even cost to get a new sf20 piece.

[lost epoch]

No idea, I still have to look around for that 💀

I haven’t upgraded my gear for a while so I’m just anxious to make a change lol

[lost epoch]

Yea if only it passes the chaos tap 😅

[gilded oriole]

ahh ok.

chaosing a cra piece is what 10%?

[lost epoch]

Yea only 10% 😭

Nvm imma just wait for my shoes to reach lvl50

10% is too much risk

My setup currently

Also ty for the insight @unborn vale @gilded oriole 🫶🏼

[unborn vale]

Yea 10% took me 16 tries

🤣

But it was my last piece to chaos

[unborn vale]

Nice weapon!

[lost epoch]

Ty . It’s worth 3 years of waiting

[gilded oriole]

3 years 😮

[lost epoch]

Yee. Exalting and passing necros took awhile 😬

[cosmic ice]

I'm pretty sure HP /MDC wise chaos lv50 is better than cra 50

You lose our the extra 2line flames / 3 line pot tho and the sf

So you can say you lose more overall stats, but the MDC and HP should be somwhat higher with chaos overall

My inherited lv46 overall gives more MDC than cra 50 of om not wrong

The robe is 46*

[junior egret]

There's an argument to be made for top and bot in culvert as you get a PD Boost from them and you probably don't cap stage 6 but in literally everything else chaos overall is better

[unborn vale]

Oh rip my culvert score going down again

🤣

[junior egret]

Nah will probably stay kinda similar since you'll hit stage 6 faster

[dire holly]

[lost epoch]

That’s fine. One sacrifice out of eveything else 😂

I’ll work on the top and bottom last anyways since thr pass rate is only 10% 🥲

[gilded oriole]

The PD/MD boost is only in Guild Battle and Kerning Tower :(( if only it applied everywhere would be really nice

[junior egret]

It's all guild content

Culvert is guild content

[gilded oriole]

Ooooo

[snow thistle]

Question: Is there any change in the passive hyper skills?

I use 3 points in finishing blow, 1 point dark aura and 1 point weakening aura

🤔

[unborn vale]

Finishing blow extra strike?

[snow thistle]

Yep

[unborn vale]

Yea i’m same as you

Depending how well you cap lines you can use the Finishing Blow reinforce or not

[snow thistle]

Are you talking about additional crit dmg%?

this right?

[unborn vale]

Oh yea sorry the crit dmg one

[unborn vale]

They made finishing blow (without v1) a bit weaker in the rebalance so I have all the finishing blow hyper points like you do

[snow thistle]

Now I have a question about the vmatrix skills for boss

Could someone show me their vmatrix to see if they are correct?

This is my vmatrix

[unborn vale]

Looks good to me, i also have boost nodes for Dark Shock and Sweeping Staff (if you want them)

Dark Shock doesnt add much buts its some passive damage

Sweeping staff i think can take or leave it 🤣

[unborn vale]

@outer crane do you use dark shock and sweeping staff boost nodes?

[dire holly]

I am not 545Z but yes

[unborn vale]

I knew you did

😅

[dire holly]

[outer crane]

Yes

[sharp sable]

ya sweeping staff should definitely use nodes now since the line increase

[unborn vale]

Yea ive got both boost nodes was just wondering

[junior egret]

https://s1.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-1-83ea96f22c.gif

[outer crane]

https://youtube.com/shorts/7J1lJhtXK7g?si=e66qjaMEHhYkIeVd

Hey everyone
Here’s another effect for our V4
Just use teleport, and there will be thunder everywhere.

It’s a pity we can’t use teleport while farming

[unborn vale]

Finally did a thing

[dire holly]

[dire holly]

What’s your mdc again?

[unborn vale]

30.98

[dire holly]

[unborn vale]

That .02 is annoying 😂

[unborn vale]

Still can’t hit over 13.5 in culvert

[hoary trail]

How god IS Bam?

[dire holly]

Yea I wonder why that is

I just reached roughly 30.6m mdc so maybe it’s just a difference in boss attack?

Your stats were quite high last I looked

[dire holly]

Hard to tell with all of the changes

[unborn vale]

Boom! I need to do it since v4 with boss rush to be fair but i seem to be around 13.2-13.3

Boss attack at 150% without buffs

[dire holly]

I think last week I did about 14,900 without boss rush, and I also made a few mistakes

So I’m not sure why your score is so much lower

There was a new skill that adds 5% fd with 100% uptime. Do you have that equipped on pets @unborn vale ?

[unborn vale]

Hmm i think i do

Oh yea i do have this

[dire holly]

Hmmm yea I’m not sure then

Your mdmg/cdmg stats are quite a bit higher than mine

[unborn vale]

I can try and record next time i do it

[dire holly]

If you do, keep your buff bar open

[unborn vale]

I’ll have a go tonight

For fun

[dire holly]

What could it be hmmmm

[unborn vale]

15mins to upload and ill send

13.5k quite messy run actually

I keep getting caught out by sweeping staff no teleport ability 🤣

[dire holly]

[unborn vale]

Maybe i’m doing something wrong

Maplestory M Battle Mage culvert post v4
https://youtu.be/4_BcurFUqqY

[dire holly]

You should take dg off your preset

And try using the hold down mechanic

Other than that, I don't know why you can't get a higher culvert score

It could just be because your ba is a little low, but I really don't know

[hollow moon]

Hello guys, digitalmagic here

[dire holly]

Oh! Your boost nodes are a little weird

I think you are like 10 short on your dg skill

Hello!

[unborn vale]

Yea I am, i put the points into infantry

Probably should sort my boost nodes actually

[dire holly]

Infantry should be the last of your worries

[unborn vale]

You mean the continuous attack hold down for FB?

[dire holly]

5 ponts just for another 1-2 seconds of duration is not worth

It's literally just going to add like 1.5 more attacks

[unborn vale]

Valid point🤣

[dire holly]

It applies to everything on your preset

[unborn vale]

Ah right

[hollow moon]

@dire holly can you share me the last battle analysis result for any commander?

[dire holly]

No can do

'👀

[unborn vale]

Do you not have DG on your wheel at all? I cant remember

[hollow moon]

Ok Ty

[unborn vale]

From chaos von leon

[dire holly]

I mean I cannot

[dire holly]

No I have not used dg for years, for bossing

As you know, they recently reduced the hit count on the active portion of the skill so it makes it less useful in bossing

In fact, it's just a waste of space on your preset and takes away from your ability to use skills effectively

Because I see that your individually clicking on your dg preset for v3/infantry

But that will just slow you down

[unborn vale]

Good point

I’ve taken it off now

I don’t even use it in real bossinh

[dire holly]

Good good

One thing I will point out is that when you have v3 and infantry on the same wheel

When you hold down that specific preset

It will relocate v3

So it's a bit inefficient when used

But that's the only way to make it fit on the main page sadly

[unborn vale]

Yea i thought that, but at least they have same cooldowns now so will usually summon together

[dire holly]

[hoary trail]

I LOVE Bam but, i need help, can you show your battle analysis? This way I can guide myself in the order of the skills and the best way to use myy strength and matrix to the maximum, even if you don't have that much strength, I know that I can guide myself to reach the top 10 at least

[slim geode]

@dire holly My king

[slim geode]

interesting I would also like to see it @dire holly show me

[unborn vale]

You guys ignoring my one

😭

[dire holly]

Yes, please refer to @unborn vale images

[unborn vale]

Haha

[dire holly]

Also, if you want to see true power, go look up 545Z

He's is the strongest BaM that I know of

[slim geode]

Hahahaha NO

Ur top 1

[dire holly]

I will not be posting my charts

If you like the class and how they play then that is all that matters

[slim geode]

You fell from the pedestal, my hero has fallen, he is a false god... or maybe he is not as good as we thought?

Rr Battle Mage

[hoary trail]

He IS not so good, well..... Time to play alone

[dire holly]

I have never claimed to be good. With the most recent update making classes a bit more balanced, what it boils down to is if you enjoy the class you play. You don't want to stick yourself onto a class that is considered the "best" and grow to hate it because its playstyle is not to your liking.

[gilded oriole]

Agreed. I listened to everyone and went tried the holy trinity of phantom/bishop/paladin.. did not enjoy any of these at all post 200. Best to play a class thatll keep you logging on.

[junior egret]

You are good though, I know you're only trying to prevent mike from feeling ashamed due to his skill issues

[unborn vale]

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[unborn vale]

Dam nice

[dire holly]

I’m truly confused because I think you have higher stats than me

Even your mana overload and infantry are higher

[unborn vale]

My timing with ds4 must be rubbish

😅

[dire holly]

I’m not even timing ds4 LOL

I just attack

[unborn vale]

Ongoing confusion for me🤣

[sharp sable]

Why not

[unborn vale]

Wonder if I’m doing something wrong and missing out on loads of dps

Surely can’t just be the points i had missing in DG 😅

[gilded oriole]

are u guys doing the same exact rotations?

[unborn vale]

I was gonna ask too @dire holly

When do you do first v3/infantry summon

I was doing:
V1 and v2 at the start
V3/infantry/v4 once reach stage 6
Then recast when available
(I need to time these better with ds4 after watching my video back i missed ds4 a lot 🤣)

[gilded oriole]

also like things that are on auto pet buffs make a diff too.

[unborn vale]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

[dire holly]

10-20 seconds in

For v3 and infantry ideally

Same for v4

You don’t want it to be casted exactly 20 seconds in for v4 because then you risk losing time on the second cast

For me I just use v3/infantry right as it spawns; too lazy to min/max

[unborn vale]

I think i do the same 🤣

Oh well

[cosmic ice]

I just cleared dojo stage 43 for the first time by pressing auto battle and going afk (had buffs remaining after lotus)

The dash rng probs was perfect 😂

[unborn vale]

Finally cracked 14k in culvert (no boss rush)

Missed out about 20s of v4 from second cast though

Somehow

[dire holly]

Nice!

[outer crane]

New high score

[unborn vale]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-gif-26042600

[unborn vale]

Can you show your latest gears?

Or stats?

[keen zenith]

How is BaM as a support? Do people accept you to their party for late game bosses?

[dire holly]

As support, the answer is no

Our support skills, outside of our damage auras, are in need of some improvement and are usually overlooked

[unborn vale]

Basically not a support these days

Shield can be useful in Ark and Lucid but its very difficult to make it useful for a whole party

[cosmic ice]

very low value as a support

mid level as a dps (improvment)

[outer crane]

Okie okie

[outer crane]

Got 80 thousand cap last week

I changed magnificent queen to Magnus

[unborn vale]

Dam nice

[unborn vale]

55k atk

[quick haven]

anyone can share battlemage auto battle skill wheel?

[cosmic ice]

All v matrix ones, hyper genesis and FB ofc
Pretty straight forward... I also use V1 on pet

[dawn python]

I actually only use v1 and v3 farming. V2 is added only in eos. Unfortunately our v4 doesn’t work for ab. Would have seriously lifted our place as the worst mobbing mage by a country mile.

[idle wyvern]

How does one bAm?

Could I see some Auto / Bossing wheels? I’m reviving my little guy

[cosmic ice]

There's no big brain wheels here. Use FB and teleport (majority use the dash skill for extra mobility/immunity from touch damage)

High leveled bams also uses hyper now (when you can get levels from vmatrix nodes to it I assume you ain't high enough)

And all vmatrix skills. Nothing more nothing less

Also the shield can be useful again just for certain bosses if you not try hard you can ignore it

Can also scroll up and see multiple video uploads of us bossing me speedos and 545z uploaded a few of em

[idle wyvern]

I might RR to this lil guy

It’s fun as hell

Debating on cape for it

[gilded oriole]

golly those eyebrows

[idle wyvern]

I’m changing thoseeeee

[gilded oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[idle wyvern]

Homies cooking with the Mm

[cosmic ice]

Eh... Both weapons went to lvl 50 & 40 for free, both got to chaos/inherit Easley bit the armor pieces giving me hell 😅

New chaos exp weapon 💪🏻

[unborn vale]

Looks sick

The jump animation very cool

[unborn vale]

The only difference to normal is I summoned v3 and infantry right at the start, then v1 at stage 6

3k higher score

[grand adder]

Hey guys

Does both the party shield reduction and dmg reduction aura reduce dmg taken from dash n orb in Damien?

[cobalt crater]

damage reduction aura lowers resistance to bosses not to party

shield only lowers damage from orb

[grand adder]

I meant the blue aura. Not weakening aura.

[dire holly]

What the! That’s way higher than my best

Hmmm v1 at stage 6 and not at the beginning?

I’ll have to try this

[unborn vale]

I watched 545z culvert video and that’s what he did so i copied 😅

[unborn vale]

I’m actually not sure, i don’t think blue aura does anything for orb/dash though

[cosmic ice]

Wtf did you just casually increased 60% of your prev record just by using V1 at stage 6?? Holy crap

[unborn vale]

Yea like 3.4k extra score

I think it must just line up my v3 timing better with ds4

[rancid estuary]

if you have the event 3% defense ignore buff, it's gonna increase your score by a lot

[unborn vale]

I only had this extra 1% for this week

From 2 to 3, I know it probably adds a lot but not this 3.5k

[idle wyvern]

@dire holly

[dire holly]

[outer crane]

yes that is how I use the skills

[cosmic ice]

Wtb solo Damien bam guide / estimated stat requirements

Anyone has kms data?

[cobalt crater]

why do you need kms data? I'd say try it yourself. test the mechanics. once you're comfortable with the mechanics you can always limit test yourself.

I would assume you'd have to be around 27m cap atleast

[cosmic ice]

Cuz this is what this channel is about. Also if a bam with 30m cap struggle clear it it will save me the boring and pointless storyline to unlock this boss

[dire holly]

Players who are already doing Damien will probably not think about doing solo because, if we assume it’s like solo Lotus, then the amount of coins dropped will be lower than normal mode

But for you, you should just give it a shot as phalowyn said. Either way you’re going to have to get through the story eventually; might as well get it out of the way now

[idle wyvern]

Lil
Booms growing

[cosmic ice]

Let's see less of " why you asking a legit question " and more answers , don't have them? Hold it 😘

[idle wyvern]

I’ll hold you

[idle wyvern]

Or you can carry me

I will be #1 BaM

[junior egret]

It's not what this channel is for as there is literally nothing known about our solo Damien yet since bosses tend to differ quite a bit compared to kmsm

I mean I'll happily give you the KMSM guide

Have 600k hp, stand in a corner and tank everything

[idle wyvern]

Let me sit with you

[unborn vale]

Sounds like phantom gameplay

https://tenor.com/view/haha-stir-the-pot-cat-gif-13921127

[tacit parrot]

Hello BaM Fam ! Had no clue this forum existed LMAO

Yall got any tips for me on my stats? Currently im scaling with EXP . All my gears are CD EMB .

[gilded oriole]

ITS HIM!

Are you running 6 set commanders?

[tacit parrot]

TOMMY !!!! Not yet need mag badge and pendant

[gilded oriole]

Idk how scaling exp will be once you start reducing the amount of exp accessories for commander/boss set accessories.

For BA, from what I've read, once you get things like SS BA Jewels, 3 set Mlabels(3+3 even better ofc), and BA souls help tremendously with BA flames. Once you start hitting your absos, those gears will also give BA base stats. Armor set effects. At this point, I believe scaling to BA will yield better sults than scaling EXP.

Exp vs BA vs hp/mp flame scaling aside, just looking at your gears I'm assuming youre able to constantly hit cap? In that case biggest progression would be to up that MDC.

I'll put this here for reference
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266666293915025508/1274125512670842984/mdc.png?ex=66c3179a&is=66c1c61a&hm=9df0b793c3232f5a25e702040fc0cca409cff5176f1ec6d37b6c04abec79f059&

[tacit parrot]

Thank you Tommy for specifying when I should switch . Yes hard capping . MDC is going to take some time for me . I have 3/8 necros rn no luck for the last 3 months . Currently working on my legion as well . Hit the 500k milestone , slowly working towards the extra 750. Guild skills 2/5 for MDC rn .

Looks like I need to start working on my SF gears while I wait for my necros to land . Souls are super expensive and the way my luck has been . That’ll be out of the quest for the mean time !

[gilded oriole]

Legion MDC gains are cumulative btw so the 250k+500k is added. that 8200, 750k mdc is a struggle but you got this! What soul does your staff have?

[tacit parrot]

2mdc rn I’m okay it it lol

Unless someone wants to donate some souls to me yenno lol

[tacit parrot]

Oops my mistake

[gilded oriole]

6 set would give you an extra 500k. I'm assuming you're doing Lotus so once you get that accessory thats an extra 200.

[tacit parrot]

Yep yep! Every week with the team !

[cobalt crater]

It's fine to scale to EXP, it's really not the end all be all situation. The only thing with EXP is that you need to constantly upkeep those EXP items like title, EXP mlabel shoes, medal, and possibly rings.

For a BA build, you need more upfront whale costs, like 3+3 Mlabel, Mpets, potentials, and most importantly necro/ abso and boss accessories.

[gilded oriole]

Btw.. if you have a lot of exp scaling, a 10-15% medal might give you more matk than the Maple World Savior Medal(gives 300 I believe)

[cobalt crater]

i scale to EXP perfectly fine on my pally and my bucc is BA build

[tacit parrot]

Mine expired lol! I usually have something up

[tacit parrot]

Yeah ahh I’ll convert probably when I land more necros I got some BADASS flames rn

[gilded oriole]

I'm a full pensalir gamer tryna make it to the lv 50 chaos leagues and hope I can join bossses after lotus. So I have most of my stuff scaled to EXP.. even souls :(. I'm going to need to sort out the kinks once I get myself the 6 set commander as well.

[cobalt crater]

the thing you dont want is a mix of flames like EXP with BA

[tacit parrot]

My current flames rn

[cobalt crater]

niceee

i would just keep the secondary

dont reroll it until you have full necro

[tacit parrot]

Okay sounds like a plan!

[cobalt crater]

this is my BA flame on my bucc, mind you im 4 set abso, and 3 set pitch boss

these are some of my flames on my pally

[tacit parrot]

Just the waiting game now ! I’m working on my pensalir set too! Chaos pensalir gives some nice bonus’s!

[cobalt crater]

so like all in all if my flames are close to 800+ atk per line for legendary, im satisfied.

you can choose which ever to build whether it's BA/ EXP/ HP

just know you have to spend a lot to get a lot

[tacit parrot]

Right ?!!! That’s what I’m afraid of I think I’m coo with what I got FOR NOW I think with commanders set I’ll still be +800 ish for MA

How about souls ? Should I RR to BA ?

[cobalt crater]

EXP is definitely more on the less spending side, BA has a good middle ground and HP is okay

no keep yours as EXP

EXP sees a big drop off without your souls

however you can upgrade them whenever you get a better one

[tacit parrot]

Yeah 20% exp gone without them

[cobalt crater]

i went from vellum exp souls to ark then lotus

[tacit parrot]

Lotus been giving me item drop , which I’m fine with for farming

[cobalt crater]

[tacit parrot]

I have not gotten a magnificent on any shards yet . It’s been 3 years ? Lmao

[cobalt crater]

it be like that

[tacit parrot]

Thanks I appreciate @cobalt crater & @gilded oriole truly !! I’m not concerned about being #1 just want to progress effectively from where I’m at with my gears etc.

[cobalt crater]

no worries, there's no true answer on flames as long as it's in your budget range. you can choose how you want to spend

there's still people at the end game who scale to EXP

[grand adder]

What I don’t understand is with exp scale, your ba will suffer a lot

How can you consistently cap if your ba is below 180/190%

[cobalt crater]

then it just seems like a you problem, no? get more other stats to off set it

[grand adder]

Just theoretical but based on notdeath stat above, his cd benefits a lot all the cd to exp flame scaling and the ba is only 100-110%

A lot of ba come from soul and accessories, which can’t be changed if you go exp route

I’m 33m cap, 45k attack, 190ba and 440cd , and I cant cap my small line with that stat still.

[cobalt crater]

what small lines are we talking about ?

[grand adder]

My main is Evan for reference

[cobalt crater]

and do you have boost nodes in them?

[grand adder]

It’s a skill with 90% skill dmg. And yes

Lv50 only tho. Not 60.

[cobalt crater]

that's like 20 extra final damage you're missing

and there's your answer, it's 90% skill damage

[grand adder]

To cap main skill doesn’t require a lot nowaday

[cobalt crater]

If you're on orb for Damien or green field for lotus, you're going to do less damage.

[grand adder]

But I feel like most people only look at max dmg hit. They don’t look at average dmg. And the average dmg really shows when maplegoddess blessing and other class buff is off if you can still cap or not

[cobalt crater]

what the Battle Analysis on it

is it the debris skill ?

or is it the blue one

i forgot

[grand adder]

No. Dragon spark. Debris can cap with my current stat.

I have a top bottom with exp mythic flame. My highest was 1.1k attack per line. My ba scaling is 980 per line.

So sure, let’s say I replace all my ba flame with exp flame, I’ll lose out on 1k attack total between weapon lsw, outfit, cape/shoulder, and android. And cd flame on hat gloves shoes let’s say u get 5% more with exp than my ba per line, so 30% more cd.

[cobalt crater]

do you have a Battle Analysis for Dragon Spark?

[grand adder]

Urgh i gotta go dig it up

[cobalt crater]

or take new one

[grand adder]

I’ll have a hdam tonight or tmr and I can share it

[cobalt crater]

any for lotus?

[grand adder]

Oh lotus i cap everything

It’s Damien that I start not capping my smaller line

[cobalt crater]

so if you cap for lotus, you're probably fine

Damien ,you're gonna have to deal with Orb with lower damage lines and not lining things up with DS4

[grand adder]

That’s why I look at average dmg

To get a more realistic number. But of course it can never be perfect.

[cobalt crater]

you cant really look at anything in Damien because there's too many variables to judge things on

[grand adder]

But my dragon spark line average is lower on average compare to my main skill.

[cobalt crater]

i mean isnt that normal? dragon spark is passive

[grand adder]

It’s just that low skill % that makes it hit so weak

And for sure some classes such as sia with high skill % on even their small line can cap everything w less stat

[tacit parrot]

Here are my stats for recent bossing . I can’t hit cap on lotus or Ark(close) YET

Hmag, ark then lotus

[grand adder]

You are capping mostly in lotus

How about the bottom half of lotus analysis?

[cobalt crater]

you're capping

[gilded oriole]

You are capping. Any boss after Ark has enemy defense which is why DEF Ignore Rate is important.

[tacit parrot]

Bottom half of lotus

[grand adder]

Here’s a tip: whatever your cap is, if you can hit exactly 75% of it with ds4 on, you’re capping that line at that moment. This applies to Damien and lotus.

[tacit parrot]

Oooh I see

[cobalt crater]

you're max damage line comes when you activate DS4, if you're average dmg is slightly below that, you're 100% capping.

[cobalt crater]

this

[grand adder]

And how I look at it is look at your avg dmg comparing to your max dmg

My average dmg used to be 85% of my max dmg

And now my avg dmg is 93% of my max dmg

Meaning overall I’m capping across the board. Players with average damage less than 90% of your highest dmg indicates you’re only capping when all your strong buff is on. When those buffs are off, you don’t cap.

So I’m on board w phalowyn that exp scale is solid for newer players. But once u hit 30m+, and u wanna consistently cap all your smaller line too, I think exp falls off hard.

[tacit parrot]

I got some time to get there heheh probably another 2 years

[grand adder]

But 30m+ you’re looking at more than a lv40 necro armor set. U need some abso and some lv50.

[cobalt crater]

yup, 30m+ is not easy to get, but eventually you get there

[grand adder]

But hmmm phalowyn, u making me think of gearing an alt with just full 40 ancient n hardcore exp scale, keep them at lv200-205 just for daily bossing for chaos crystal. Low budget.

[cobalt crater]

oh nah you dont need that much

[grand adder]

They’ll only be like 20m so u don’t need crazy stat to cap

[cobalt crater]

probably necro weapon atleast is minimum

[grand adder]

Yea necro weapon for sure

[cobalt crater]

and just do NMag, HHilla, and HVL if you're farming crystals

that's if you're soloing

if you're carrying multi, obviously you want to be stronger

[grand adder]

I run 7 alts already so I’m lookin to do alts that can solo nmag quickly with just max boost nodes

Jump in, do their burst and burst nmag down. Log out. Do another alt. Same thing. By the time I’m back on first alt burst is back up to do hhila

[cobalt crater]

i used to do that, but now i dont. i think it's much better to farm lotus, but if you can farm chaos crystals efficiently with alts, the more the merrier.

[grand adder]

I do farm lotus on 4/7 of those

The nice thing w doing it all under one acct is I make my own tradable lv40 ancient. So I can pass it between all of them to attempt instead of cutting

[cobalt crater]

nice nice

you got it easy easy then

may the RNG gods be in your favor

[grand adder]

How’s the bucc life after update

[cobalt crater]

no complaints, just wish Lord of Deep still had unlimited cooldown with reduced lines but same amount of lines within 1 minute duration.

massive 10-15 second burst with consistent damage output

[grand adder]

Seems consistent with most classes nowaday

So what’s BaM play style like

Bursty? Dpm? Lots of summon or one button class? Any small line like dragon spark that’s hard to cap? Lots of micromanagement ?

[cobalt crater]

i'd say very DPM heavy, good burst. lots of summons, but the summons have a long cd, so not too much of an issue.

can easily cap

only micromanagement is for your Altar summons and shield, other than that, it's fine

i have no issues

[grand adder]

What’s up with the aura?

[grand adder]

Small line too?

What’s the lowest skill dmg %?

[cobalt crater]

i think it's like 130? i'd have to check again

our lowest is 190 from grim contract and main skill is 200%

every V skill is over 250%

[cobalt crater]

weakening aura is best to deal more dmg to the boss since it lowers its defense, from what i see and hear, the others arent too great even tho dark aura provides DMG increase buffs.

our V skill Aura scythe, activates all auras and enhances our finishing blow for more range and damage

[grand adder]

Gotcha. So it’s weakening aura probably if we are lower dps team. And dark aura on stronger team to boost your own pd/Md

[cobalt crater]

no just use weakening aura all around

think of it like "extra ied" but it doesnt really say it in its description

but it's applied to boss not the team

so the BaM has to be in range of the boss

[grand adder]

Yea it just helps u do more dmg. Most classes have some version of reduce phy/magic dmg

[idle wyvern]

But how hard did you hit max HP?

Different results

BaM made gains

No more skin

[cobalt crater]

i dont have any HP flames

[idle wyvern]

Ahhhhh

[sharp sable]

Yeah I agree with @cobalt crater, im mostly exp flame and we typically get much more ATK/CD than BA scaling flames, moreso than those with absos/commander set. And honestly too much BA over CD isn't really that great. I'm almost at 40m cap on my cannoneer and capping everything except my <150% skill dmg skills, which BA is much less useful for than say mdmg or CD or FD

[sharp sable]

My tip is just keep what you have if you're mostly exp flames already and focus on radiant exalts/making absos. No need waste more mesos on rerolling flames.

[sharp sable]

Yeah those r beautiful LOL

[cobalt crater]

i do have an MP flame, my MP items are fully exalted to 50

https://i.gyazo.com/3e6bd5ac226918e1f711a5b82bb8e603.png

[sharp sable]

If you knew the damage formula you'd know BA doesn't do much for lower skill dmg skills, you'll want other stats

[cobalt crater]

agreed. i prefer more CD, but some BA isn't too bad. i think most skills <130% doesn't cap unless you have OMEGA GIGA stats like 50k ATK/ 500CD/ >150 BA/ ATK/ DMG %

[sharp sable]

Ya brah I got like 54k ATK/600 CD/200 BA and still can't cap AD hyperstats

[cobalt crater]

no ied on ADI

[unborn vale]

https://tenor.com/view/god-damn-gif-10267541

[grand adder]

I think adi just impossible to cap. It’s like 8m+ less damage compare to my other skill

[grand adder]

But also you have super omega stat, I’m assuming lv240+, msw, high af, and possibly even an abso lv50 weapon

So you’re making up for flame scaling and stat thru being super high level and geared

More cd is better for sure.

If u look at this skill % chart, roughly the 80% skill dmg is where having more cd will yield higher attack. But I feel like from my own experience, any skill below 150% skill dmg most classes have trouble capping it.

Regarding flame tho, I was purely talking about what stat would we lose if we change out things that affect flame if we were to go with ba setup, which is accessories , jewel and soul. Armor set and mlabel don’t count because u don’t change them out regardless of build.

[sharp sable]

Naw dude, I got necro and lsw, that's just how strong exp flame scaling is

[grand adder]

I left off here without finishing. So with exp flame, I gain 30% more cd and 1k attack in an ideal world.
Dom pendant 8% ba, mag necklace 4% ba, 3 rings(assuming both build use kerning ring) 12%cd, 4 soul 12% ba, jewel 5% ba, 6 set commander 8.5% ba, 3% fd, 500k mdc, 7% cd. This total to 37.5 ba, 19% cd, 3% fd, and 500k mdc.

[sharp sable]

Not making anything up. Tell me how much you get from a BA to CD scaling and I'll tell you how much I get from exp to CD so you can realize BA to CD scaling is bad

[sharp sable]

And yes we agree on this, this was my point

[grand adder]

I digress here. It has nothing to do with the flame scaling conversation really. It’s ba vs cd raw stat, while we are discussing ba vs exp flame scaling. I was just showing data to say I agree with you overall more cd is better than ba, usually regarding having 7-8cd emblem vs 4cd vs 4ba emblem.

[sharp sable]

But it does because one provides superior stats for ATK/CD

[grand adder]

Have you checked my recent post up there?

[grand adder]

Here.

That’s me calculating how much stat you’re missing out when you scale to exp vs ba. Please correct me if any of the idea seems off in there.

Yes you’re getting less cd and attack , but you’re losing out on so much ba and fd and the extra 500k mdc.

[sharp sable]

What FD and 500k MDC???

[grand adder]

Yes from 6 commander set.

If you go exp route, you lose out on those

[sharp sable]

Omg lmao you should definitely still use commander set even with exp flames

[grand adder]

Well I only got 1.1k flame per attack when I equip full exp gear

Can you share your gear setup to get 1.1k attack per flame with exp flame?

Perhaps that’s where I’m missing

[sharp sable]

Are you using mythic or leg flames?

[grand adder]

That’s from mythic exp flame

And the ba flame I use in the example above is from legendary flame

My highest exp flame I get is 1.1k

And my highest ba flame is 1k rn

[sharp sable]

But wat about your CD?

I get around 900 from mythic exp with just kerning ring and mulung medal

[grand adder]

Ba flame gives me roughly 3% cd while exp flame give me roughly 8% cd

[sharp sable]

Yeaaa CD is the biggest difference

[grand adder]

But that’s full exp gear

Exp weapon, exp lsw, 4 exp ring, 2 exp necklace, exp pocket, exp medal n title, riena strait exp, exp jewel

[sharp sable]

Hmm I get 7.5 CD

[grand adder]

It’s impressive if you’re getting 900 without equipping all that

[sharp sable]

Yeah I have exp pots on rings

And not even full exp souls

[grand adder]

Yes , all my rings are 2 line cd usually

[sharp sable]

I use some FD

[grand adder]

Would u mind sharing your setup

I’m curious how do u get 900 att on exp scaling

Without equipping all that

[sharp sable]

It was more when I had the warm light medal but I opted for more BA/FD

Anyways all this to say, don't worry about rerolling flames, stick to what you got, and spend money on exalts cause it's MDCstory

[grand adder]

Hmm do you use exp jewel?

we already give exp flame scaling an upper hand when comparing to my ba scale since we comparing mythic exp flame to legendary ba flame

Exp mlabel shoes would help too

But I ain’t that kind of whale

[sharp sable]

Yis I do I'm 2/5 SSS jewels LOL

Yea definitely more upkeep with exp flames

Nice thing about BA flames is not needing to swap medals and rings every time

[grand adder]

Gawdang so yes you’re getting away w this coz you have max hyper stat ba too and sss jewel. Us low level peasant can’t afford that 😛 I’m only lv220 so any ba really helps

[sharp sable]

Just keep leveling

Yeah I was definitely BA starved for a while

[grand adder]

It’s not capstory . It’s altstory for me 😄

[sharp sable]

But yeah other nice thing about exp flames is you can get +120% BA from buffs meanwhile CD max buff is +30%

+120% BA with a BA focused build won't be as effective vs a CD focused build

[grand adder]

True true. For exp build, you do exp jewel, medal, and one exp kerning right, the rest is similar to ba build right

And do you have double exp flame on most gear?

[sharp sable]

Yessiiiir

I also try to go for pdmg/mdmg vs BA on medals/earring but if I get one of each I ain't rerolling lmao cubes are the worst

[grand adder]

Same. One of my earring and necklace is 1 ba 1 pd%

I ain’t rolling that

[cobalt crater]

where is this from?

is it even from msm?

[grand adder]

One of the forums when I talk to players here

I can’t remember exactly which one

But yes msm

[junior egret]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-the-interview-hate-us-gif-12303612

[junior egret]

It's msm

But it's msm assuming you have the exact same stats as noodlesoup since he is the one who made it and input his own stats as variables

So if you don't have his stats it'll look a bit different

But generally speaking this is kinda true

[jagged spoke]

Wow I’m surprised you could get such return with only kerning and legends(?), still got my last unfortunate exp flame on defend emblem lsw but planning to switch out since someone might benefit from the flame.

SS jewel pushes that to 500+ tho but I got ba flames on all part so prolly not worth it

[sharp sable]

Ya I trust noodle soup with my life

He's the king of exp flames lmao

But yeah looks like matk/patk > BA for <100% skill dmg skills which is pretty nuts

Might change my legion from BA to patk

[gilded oriole]

Reading through all this has given me hope for my pensalir exp build. Scuffed af but maybe it’ll work. Let’s go. Ty guys for the depth in your responses :))

[dire holly]

@unborn vale I have no idea how you managed to get 17k+ culvert score

I tried your method and it doesn't work for me

Was that run with boss rush?

[unborn vale]

Yea boss rush too

I mean i have no idea either

[dire holly]

Event ied?

Last time I used boss rush I scored.. 16,600? But 17,500? I can’t imagine getting that high lol

Now I feel like I’m the one doing something wrong

[unborn vale]

The first try i had ied 2% from the event and got 13900 or something

Then the last one was ied 3% and boss rush

But so far it was a one off

[idle wyvern]

Getting closer

And closer

[empty onyx]

Hi, I just upgraded to 200, can you help me with the V Matrix please?

[dire holly]

Looking for which tri-nodes to aim for?

[empty onyx]

I'm batle mague

[dire holly]

Yes that’s why you’re here

👀

So what exactly about v matrix do you need help with?

[empty onyx]

Perfect tríos plis

[dire holly]

Of all the skills that can be obtained, I think it is important to prioritize these 6:

1. Finishing Blow
2. Condemnation
3. Dark Genesis
4. Dark Shock
5. Sweeping Staff
6. Battle Burst (not necessary)

This isn't in order of what should be prioritized either, although Finishing Blow and Condemnation I would say is a must

[unborn vale]

@dire holly i did the same culvert tactic today with no boss rush / really messy run and got 17k

(The 3% ied still on ofc)

[dire holly]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[tacit parrot]

Hey battle gods , does the 2 hypers apply to aura scythe ?

[cosmic ice]

Yes

The boss attack attack line shows the dark aura hyper applies, I think the only way to see if the weakening one works is damage test with and without it but by the way it's written it should be applied

[tacit parrot]

Ahhh thank you so much!!! This whole time I didn’t have dark aura hyper in. I appreciate you responding

[cosmic ice]

Ez upgrade

[empty onyx]

Thank you so much

[sharp sable]

Anybody have their DPS % contribution per skill charts on say their lotus runs?

Wondering which skill(s) should I prioritize my matrix points on

Had them on v1/v2 before but wondering if v3/v4 is better

Preferably with equally leveled vskills

[dire holly]

still v1/v2 for me

[grand adder]

Just played a bit more on my battlemage alt (lv140)

Gotta say it’s the smoothest mage class

Makes lumi and Evan (my main) feels extremely clunky.

The teleport u guys have is almost like shade backstep or nw backstep. It’s so responsive n your skill doesn’t lock u in a long animation like my Evan

[cobalt crater]

v1 and altars are best

[sharp sable]

Cool cool cool thx guys @cobalt crater

[cobalt crater]

https://i.gyazo.com/8cb76c12e6aac923eec403aaad83faf8.png

https://i.gyazo.com/1f608dd365c9b5bd0f879a3dd182efd1.png

[sharp sable]

Waow v1 op

Altars too

[sharp sable]

Also where's hyper? Between v3/v4?

[unborn vale]

My hyper is between infantry and dark shock

Almost useless 🤣

[sharp sable]

Wat srs???

[unborn vale]

Yea its trash still

Bit better in Damien run though

I wish it was a bit better

[sharp sable]

Ok thank god

Cause I swapped from 2 dark shock 1 SS to 1 dark shock 2 SS for boost trios

[unborn vale]

Good trade i think

[sharp sable]

Oh and your v4 > v3

Maybe I should use matrix points on 4 vs 3?

[unborn vale]

This is possibly my bad timing of v3

Summon it just as Damien flies 😅

Pro move

[cobalt crater]

I don't use it at all since I'm not using a trio for it

I just use FB, gene and grim contract

[sharp sable]

Intredaaaastiiiing

[cobalt crater]

if I was like 220 or 230 I would equip my second trio, but it's just an alt I have on the side

I just got it to 210

instead of infantry and maple warrior, I put blink and HB for Damien

[sharp sable]

Makes sense!

Surprised your dark shock does that much without nodes!

[cobalt crater]

i teleport around way too much

[sharp sable]

That's what bam's made for

[lost epoch]

Sorry. Noob question. But there’s a hyper for v3/v4? 😳

[dire holly]

There isn't

Was referring to matrix points you get for leveling past 200

[sharp sable]

Nooo I meant sweeping staff hyper haha, I thought the DPS% was between v3/v4 DPS%

[lost epoch]

Ah ok gotchu 👌🏼

[idle wyvern]

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