Battle Mage

[cobalt crater]

not really

because its not noticable stats

that's why you dont use CP as a judgement of how strong someone is

[candid hedge]

Yeah, for sure. I was just curious. Thanks.

[candid hedge]

What’s the best way to use my CDD alts to make money? Like what fodder could I be making to sell?

[cobalt crater]

I would probably do ancient pensalir or refined fodders, I would look at possibly your trading servers to see if anyone is buying anything in particular

but if any case, just keep holding no need to spend money for crafting materials until you found most of your gear

sometimes it's best to save them if you find a tradable gear

[candid hedge]

Thanks. Will do.

You’re a lifesaver

[civic arrow]

Anyone know how BaM is compared to BW? Or they about the same?

[cobalt crater]

BW have better shorter burst i believe, but BaM feels more like a sustained burst when their V skills are up. since aura is an upgraded buff to their main attack and their other V skills are summons

damage wise im not quite sure how well they compare

[civic arrow]

Interesting. How is there support?

[cobalt crater]

it's fine, not the best.

party shield is alright if people stay in it

good in lotus and damien

ark too but not so much anymore, it used to prevent screen cracks but mainly use it in ark to lower his damage on his attacks

they have a damage increase aura and healing aura as well

i honestly wouldnt even consider BaM a support class tho since it's not the same like bishop

[civic arrow]

I enjoy playing for the team. So before I get to deep on my BW was just checking out other staff users. BaM stuck out to me because of the Auras but I dont hear much about them so was cuirous how they were.

[sharp sable]

Why later

[sharp sable]

Still does

[cobalt crater]

to get the most out of BaM, maxing V skills help out a ton because buff and summon duration increases, but BW you don't really have to do that. most of their V skills are attacks

[cobalt crater]

if people in the bubble, it prevents them from dying to screen crack?

[unborn vale]

Yeee

[sharp sable]

Yup! Not the purple cracks though (when orbs go to the middle)

[unborn vale]

And invincible in mu lung

[cobalt crater]

i thought they took it away

[unborn vale]

Too lazy i roll with black cubes every now and again when we have events

[cobalt crater]

maybe i should start doing ark again on my BaM, i got the dom pendant but no sf on it. got too busy with other bossing content with bucc and pally

[dire holly]

It still does

Bam slept on

[outer crane]

I luv BaM more than BW

[candid hedge]

I have a 203 BW and I leveled my BaM that was 130 to 170 before I cut everything over. BaM is just so much more fun in my opinion.

Now my BaM is almost 210

[cosmic ice]

As long as you plann your gear in advance ( so you won't regret it and have to "damage control" for majority of your mid-late time) I'm sure w.e class you feel is fun by movement/ visuals would fit

[cosmic ice]

I'm somwhat getting in reach of getting an ark pendant... Lol unless i get both lotus and Damien stuff to completely ditch the expedition set I don't see it that use worthy 🫣

They definitely need to remake the commander sets stats

[civic arrow]

How is the mobbing 200+?

[candid hedge]

I’m probably the lowest level one here out of the active ones so they’ll know more than me, but I would say it’s really good. Especially with altar, battle burst to get to mobs, and your aura scythe having such a huge vertical range, it’s more than decent. It isn’t BW level of mobbing but I don’t feel like I’m suffering.

[unborn vale]

I think the mobbing is pretty good too actually

[dawn python]

Seems like I didn’t get the script. I thought our mobbing is subpar compared to other mages. This is based on my eos experience. Right now we barely touching 9k eos kills while all other mages I have tried lv180+ do 10-12k.

Also I just took battle burst off my eos wheel. It ever so slightly improves the kill rate a tad. Just sharing this info.

[unborn vale]

Oh yea pre 200 we are turd at mobbing

Bottom tier

Or you mean 200+ bam vs lvl 180 mages

[candid hedge]

Compared to mages, we are probably the worst? I thought that was a given already though lol. Every Mage is already a good mobber, so if that’s all he wants, there’s better mages for sure. But I don’t feel like we struggle. Let me put it this way, our mobbing is much better than I thought it would be. Again, I don’t feel like I’m suffering playing my BaM. I just think that if you’re looking for the coolest mage with some sick animations and decent mobbing, we are your best bet. But that’s why we’re in this discord lol.

[dire holly]

You’re dreaming!

[civic arrow]

Lmao

[dire holly]

V4 is not going to make us any better either

I don’t even think it can be used in ab

[dawn python]

I think I lose to my 180-190 mages as a lv227 bam. So yeah our mobbing, especially in eos is severely lacking. My warrior (da) and phantom do significantly better. Both are > 10k comfortably with less than half the node investment in bam

[unborn vale]

In AF party it feels decent anyway, i never do eos but i guess solo in a map sucks of course

[cobalt crater]

i mean it'll just depend on how well the AB AI places your summons as well

[dire holly]

You’re dreaming again!

[unborn vale]

[cosmic ice]

Made a bam on PC, the 4th seems pretty decent for mobbing and some extra dps om mobbing. Again it can be completely different taking shade's hyper as an example
In PC it's a mobbing skill or an I frame with low dps for bossing
In msm the same skill is the main DPS for shade 😅

[unborn vale]

Well hopefully v4 can be cast in auto battle as it looks like it will help a bit!

[cosmic ice]

Huge day !

[cosmic ice]

What I ended up with

[unborn vale]

Dam Gz @cosmic ice

545z will be proud of your weapon

[sharp sable]

PC mobbing is completely different than MSM

The fact that we can teleport during our attacks and manually summon v2 makes our PC mobbing crazy

[sharp sable]

Huge gains grats!!!!!!

How tf did u already get it to lv50 LMAO

[cosmic ice]

as a 275 pc mapler i know the diffrence xd
was just couriouse on what is up coming to BaM. usually the skill outlines are kept
found pc BaM less satisfying as the mobilie version tho

[cosmic ice]

thanks 🙂

ALOT of unique weapons and alts xd

talking about 40+ weapons consumed

[sharp sable]

Ya at least lmao

Uniques or legs?

[cosmic ice]

had few legs, ofc i had like 3k poweders on demand on my bam

bu yeah it was roughly 200-300m just for the leveling cost

not including the cost of the weaons

[sharp sable]

Yeah it takes like 5k leg powders to level an ancient armour from lv1-40, can't imagine how many for weapon AND lv50 AND chaos

[cosmic ice]

as far as i consider myself unlucky (my secoundary failed 30% x15 going from lv 4 to 5 AND STILL COUNTING) that weapon went soooo smoothly

40-50 100% pass rates, i tried my first chaos at lvl 42. LUCKILY IT FAILED. and first smart attempt was now at lvl 50 ofc

[sharp sable]

Ouffff rip...

[cosmic ice]

yeah that batch aint leveling. and its 1 attempt a month ridiculous

find it funny how the combat power is so meaningless ... im at 180m CP .. people around me with HALF of that are 20++M MDC and full necro lol
idk why they made crit rate give so much CP for no reason

[sharp sable]

Yeah it's a dumb metric lol

Was probably useful back then

[cosmic ice]

they made a new CP system in PC version. i really like it wise we get somthing simillar here

[cosmic ice]

imeannnn for inherit path crit is life lol im sitting at 100% crit clean and still working on it

[sharp sable]

Yeah it be like that lmao

Gotta get your legion up, Crit rate link skill, 3/3 mset, crit rate guild skills, exp flames (otherwise little Crit rate from BA/HP flames) and always boss with a shade/bishop/pally/pirate/hero or all of the above

[cosmic ice]

nah , buffed im easily above 150% which is all needed for bosses like lotus

as soon as that new hero is out ill boost my legion from 4.96k to 5.5k for that extra mdc thats for sure

as for crit links, i think i only miss ark that if i remmber right he gives like 2% crit 2% crit damage? beside that i got everything

[sharp sable]

170%!

[cosmic ice]

wdym 170%?

oh well i ignore the extra 20% xd we get it for free as battle mages 🙂

[sharp sable]

Lotus has 70% Crit resit so you'd want 170% to Crit all the time, but if there's a bishop and pally that's -35%, so you're fine with 150%

But in Damien ppl are always moving around so can't rely on them always hitting their Crit resist skills

[dire holly]

I wonder if crit rate hyper stat is useful now

Maybe for Damien

[outer crane]

lol

[cosmic ice]

I increased my M.atk by 5k, and 17.5% crit damage ... And NGL I see no difference unbuffed damage 😂😵‍💫 I thought I would see some noticeable difference but it's a big NAH

Only good thing I noticed changed is that in guild dungeon I can hit cap with just fever , done score of nearly 600m

Also , would you guys share your stats ?
I bearly cap on bosses even when buffed and my MDC is hella low , 14.6 now probs will be 16m after new char released. Wondering how far iam in over stats as boss damage/crit damage /M.att

[unborn vale]

Dam i would have expected some gains from 5k attack boost

I got some stats i took this week

[cosmic ice]

thanks! ill login in a few and upload my current

[cobalt crater]

https://i.gyazo.com/b79d8ac947a870437aac38aeeed03359.png

this is mine, no buffs at all/ long CD buffs

i just transferred two of my mlabels from lady blair

i wasnt really capping my lines either, but it's mostly likely a level difference for me/ some low stats to unable to hit 20m cap

[cosmic ice]

Selfbuffed

Kinda weird see my crit damage that low, pretty sure I had that amount pre- chaos

I know I lost boss atk since I re-skilled my hyper stats

Maybe it's the legion thinking about it, moved stuff around

[candid hedge]

What’s your guys auto battle preset for EoS?

[candid hedge]

It’s also lvl 5 ruthless emblem. What is this worth here? They have it for 17.5 for like 3 days in a row now

[cosmic ice]

Looks tempting but unless you wanna abso it, I wouldn't

It's un-resellable with those 2 cuts . And beside the high base m.att im not sure how good is 20 FD vs 120/137 crit damage or even boss damage one

[unborn vale]

55k matk

[cobalt crater]

[outer crane]

[unborn vale]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-gif-26042600

[outer crane]

Arc do provide lots of atks

So keep leveling up to get more arc at lv230 235 240

[outer crane]

[unborn vale]

[cobalt crater]

you almost doing the same culvert as my bucc with 30m cap

[dire holly]

[cosmic ice]

Not sure how msm mech works that good, should I invest more in crit damage or magic atk?

[dire holly]

Cd% is better

[cobalt crater]

CD/DMG is better. in MSM, atk% isn't as great as other stats which is why MATK/PATK emblems aren't as high valued

[cosmic ice]

Cool, I'll change

[cosmic ice]

After changing, my CP went down drastically, not sure if it increased my dps through felt the same if not less

I assume y'all running cd instand of atk and it's already tested right ?
Probs it's just the CP that makes me feel as if it isn't

Definitely not a big deal that's for sure

[cobalt crater]

CP shouldn't be a measurement of damage because it's scaled more from HP than damage. damage stats barely increase CP by much

[cosmic ice]

https://youtu.be/Rbc0ta73aFM?si=-kS0RbQ42KKnVLFW

Had some expiring random buffs so tried solo ark for the first time in a while

Not proud of the gaming . But eh

[cobalt crater]

you can all cure the arrows btw, it's reducing your crit rate

i was thinking to myself, this shouldn't have taken you the whole run to kill him if your burst already took him down 1/3 hp

also having PE on hotkey doesn't really do much since if you're going to heal, it's same potion cooldown as normal pots. i did the same thing yesterday as well and second time i ran it, i just left PE in my HP slot

[cosmic ice]

As for the PE's I wasn't expecting tanking 3x 50k's hits and also thought the run would be faster so I just kept the PE out, usually I set the auto heal on pet on 50% and replace into PE

As for the arrow , didn't know it's cureable , saw it go through my hilla buff so I assumed it's just gonna stay there xd

[cobalt crater]

in multi, you need a bishop to dispel that. in solo, they made it so you can all cure it. it was a recent change maybe like 2-3 months old now i think?

it was the one reason i didnt solo ark on my BaM cause it just took forever once you get one stack

your staff just turns into a pool noodle LOL

[cosmic ice]

Since than I added 2m MDC , 5k M.atk , 20% crit damage , +5 levels on all 3 V skills and learnt you can use all 3 taygoon buffs (lol)
Wonder if it would be enough to clear lotus
Won't attempt it since i joined a lotus team which we gonna do first practice this week 😅

And the BaM changes came in between as well^

[unborn vale]

For sure i think you can clear it

[cosmic ice]

Give me some expirance BaM pointers for team lotus
Any value for other auras while V1 is down? Shield protects anything good? Or I m just there as DPS?

[cosmic ice]

Just noticed that in the last 4 min I was doing 1m's and not 12's lol that debuff is insane

[cobalt crater]

dps aura is fine. I would use shield after holy shell from bishop goes away in p2/p3 and in p1 after bene disappears

shield prevents knockback from lotus push and seduce from bots

you can for sure clear solo, easier in multi hopefully

[cosmic ice]

Oh right. Forgot about the bots

[cobalt crater]

if you have erda nova save it for plats, but if there's already a pally or whoever is stunning, you should let them do it

[cosmic ice]

Haha we will see how "easy" it would be in multi lol my GM made a 2nd party so idk how high the DPS would be. I assume he will move few carries towards the 2nd one tho

Saw the avg DPS of every non bishop should be 300b of not higher... Idk if I reach these numbers

[cobalt crater]

as long as you don't die, I'm sure you'll be fine

dw about dps until you reach p3

[unborn vale]

Yea the bam shield preventing the knockback in p3 is great

As you can stand and dps for 10-15s

I use Weakening Aura on pets for when v1 is down

[sharp sable]

Especially useful when there's that debuff pool thing on the ground

Also @outer crane @dire holly just to confirm with the new aura scythe buffs, it's definitely better to spam that than sweeping staff right? Only use sweeping staff when aura scythe is on cooldown?

[outer crane]

Me too

[outer crane]

You mean finishing blow?

[sharp sable]

Yeah aura scythe/finishing blow haha

Aura scythe when aura scythe off cooldown, finishing blow when aura scythe on cooldown

Do you still use sweeping staff when aura scythe is turned on?

[dire holly]

So I've tested in training grounds with/without sweeping and it's very odd

So the only way I could achieve a hit count of 17k+ is with sweeping

I'll test again today and see what I get without it, but before patch I was getting around 15,200 without, and 15,900 with

[sharp sable]

Intredasting

[outer crane]

yes

cause it has lots of lines

lol

[dire holly]

It's only like 7 lines more

[sharp sable]

22 lines on aura scythe tho

And 30 on SS but it's slower

[dire holly]

+1 from hyper

[outer crane]

i got the point

[dire holly]

I think what's happening is that sweeping triggers more ad lines

So it's actually a lot more than what we think it is on paper

[sharp sable]

O

How?

From DG?

Cause AD hyperstat is set amount

[dire holly]

I'd need to test again and see

[sharp sable]

[dire holly]

Let's see

Sweeping can be used 17 times in 3 minutes

Actually I'll just test it when I have some free time lol

[sharp sable]

Ya, I think it's more about the speed of skills than the lines on paper

Like if SS is worth casting it needs to be at most 22/30 times slower than aura scythe

I.e. if aura scythe is 1.36x faster than SS, then SS is not worth casting, unless aura scythe is on cooldown

23* dammit

[dire holly]

Hmmm

I want to say the sweeping animation is a tiny bit shorter than an fb cast

[sharp sable]

It's gotta be worth it

Nexon wouldn't make a useless skill right

[dire holly]

It's weird though

I didn't see it being that much better than fb

But for some reason it makes a big impact in lines

[sharp sable]

Should just ask nexon to buff it to make sure

[unborn vale]

I put SS back on preset and got a pb in Guild honour

[cosmic ice]

Where's your v3?

[unborn vale]

In the top right preset with DG and Infantry

[candid hedge]

Would the best way to level up my Evan to 200 as another node farmer be to just buy an ancient wand or staff, SF scroll it, then max it? He only has a mythic wand right now.

[cobalt crater]

put it in EoS/ whatever star force field you can

do the daily quests too

i think you should get it to atleast 160sf which shouldnt be too hard to do

if you want it to be minimal spending, you can leave it to train in between SF144 -165. don't have to go too crazy

the resting exp event is alright, but idk how good it is at higher levels

i usually do those for my alts under 170

[candid hedge]

He’s at 170 SF right now but his survivability is so poor. That’s why I wouldn’t mind spending 2 bil or so for an ancient wand just to have so I can kill faster. It would be worth the investment to have 3 node farmers in my opinion.

[cobalt crater]

ancient might be a bit too much unless it's cheap, you can get mythic and ancient it yourself

[candid hedge]

Good shout. I have two crystals right now so I’ll give it a go lol.

[cobalt crater]

unless the mythic weapon has a good emblem, i would try necro

but if it's just a regular lvl 30, might as well ancient

[candid hedge]

So that didn’t work hahaha. Thanks for the shout. I completely forgot I had those. I’ll wait a few weeks and then try again.

[cosmic ice]

Wasn't a perfect run, but that's the score I got celebrating 16m MDC 🙂

For some reason , the 5500 legion gave me only like 300k or less MDC and not 500k ???

[cosmic ice]

The sooner he gets more 160 charcthers the better

I got only 4 (one that I made like a week ago) and the 5th will be the new release which I already prepared a160+ set for him

And its not even close to be enough

[cosmic ice]

---

What level you guys started using the resistance skill both char level and skill level. I'm 217/218 with 13/14 and I'm feel it's around equal dps (when not capping replacing one decent skill)

[unborn vale]

Yea similar to you around 220 ish

And when the skill was around level 15

When i had a free node slot (usually if in party content with a pala or bucca or something)

Then use it instead of the decent skill

[dire holly]

It’s hard to fit all of our skills into slots since we have so many

Going to need like lvl 240 to fit everything comfortably with v4 eventually

[cosmic ice]

I in the past 5 fails I took it as a meme but for some reason the 16th fail of 30% success rate tilted me AF. Literally failed 16times in a row... That's like 1% chance to happen

[sharp sable]

0.7^16 = 0.003323x100% = 0.33% chance or 1 in 300 of failing 16 times in a row

I'd be tilted too

[cosmic ice]

Enough rng to give me a full Necro set with some fooders 🤮

[dire holly]

[naive gate]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[cosmic ice]

🙂

Got carried hard

But again, 9th spot was a full chaos bishop , top score is a 600b BD BaM xd

no clue how with much less MDC, and by far less M.att i managed to do lower cluv score lol

.

only thing changed is me replacing the decent bishop buff into resistance ..

that skill legit does negative dps 😅

[junior egret]

Esp in culvert it does

Assuming you use DS4, while that is up is the only time it'll really do any damage at all

And even then it's not high

Cuz stage 6 has 100% defense, and V skills don't have boost nodes means while DS4 isn't on you only have ignore defense from your ark pendant and the little bit you get from the leveling of the skill, but if the skill is low level even that is negligible

[unborn vale]

Another bam whale there on the carry

[cosmic ice]

I just randomly threw skills on the wheel and look at the kill ratios... Wtb mobbing

[dawn python]

Feeling the bam mobbing sore spot? Yea we suck at eos.

[cosmic ice]

https://youtu.be/qhyoYvhazNk?si=d5sHggkP31HjIgC9

Eh soloing is so much "easier" all the extra players makes it so overwhelming I skip skill usages 🫣

[cobalt crater]

if you play with sound, it makes it easier to focus on your character. use character and boss outlines as well

you can also up your transparency if you feel like you're not upkeeping your summons

that's what i did and it helped me

[cosmic ice]

Yeah, turned off sound cuz I been asked to join discord to eat call-outs , but majority is in Mandarin which I don't understand so it also drains alot of my attention

I wish you could lower transparency of other characters while bossing would've helped me a lot

[smoky fjord]

Platform? Where I can't see it. Jump left and right I'm still in the ground. Shock # dead

😆

[cobalt crater]

character outline can help with this. the color will probably be dependent on your outfit/ skill colors

i use orange/ green

depending on the characters i play

[cosmic ice]

Yeah they got knocked into the one on the right 😅

[cosmic ice]

I done it in the boss itself, but the other teammate's CS is too colorful to make it visible

Like it's on but it isn't bold enough. I'll have a look at the settings again maybe I can play with it Abit more

[crimson bolt]

[unborn vale]

[unborn vale]

[dire holly]

[cobalt crater]

GRATS!

[unborn vale]

Couldn’t quite beat IvyLi to it

[junior egret]

Smh so slow

JK GRATZ

[unborn vale]

https://tenor.com/view/tobey-maguire-sad-wah-wahh-cry-gif-9110297

[unborn vale]

Guys for culvert… do you still time v1 with the 2min skills (cd and other bam one?)
Culvert still confuses me i did a bad run with all skills from the start (v1 starting in stage 6) …

Then i did a perfect run with v1 turning on at same time as the skills in stage 6, with 2 mins left and it was 700 lower

[cobalt crater]

yea i still do once it reaches stage 6, but i think you can use the CD skill at stage 5

[unborn vale]

Confuses me every week

I get wildly different scores for the same strategy

[cobalt crater]

545Z uses grim harvester early with ds4 timing , i guess just to get into stage 6 faster

[unborn vale]

Didn’t try this one actually

[cobalt crater]

can also use resistance dudes too since they don't do too much damage either

im slowly maxing my V skills on BaM now, not sure why since im not even training it

[dire holly]

The variance in your score is due to rng that’s out of your control

Doesn’t matter how well you think you did

[cobalt crater]

i still dont understand why people choose weakening aura over dark aura

[dire holly]

Scores from last week I think (20.8m mdc)

[cobalt crater]

culvert's definitely strange because people vary in cap/ V skill levels so scoring is different

[dire holly]

Have you tested in bosses?

In farming content the dmg is roughly the same, but how the effects are applied matter quite a bit; not that it matters because you’ll most likely be using v1 on pets, meaning that an aura can’t be equipped along side it

[cobalt crater]

i mean i dont really see any HUGE differences. my damage is higher with dark aura but not much

[dire holly]

Weakening in better in bosses

Think about how many skills that actually offer that can of boost

I can only think of like one on the top of my head right now from Night Lords

Dark only gives you more stats which is nice but you’re probably going to experience diminishing returns

[cobalt crater]

yea but why? it's DMG reduction, it's not like DEF reduction

[dire holly]

The wording stumps everybody lol

[cobalt crater]

the way i thought of it was like it reduces the boss' damage

[dire holly]

Then why does it boost out damage?

It’s the wording that’s confusing

I’d read it again lol

[cobalt crater]

yea that's what im wondering

[dire holly]

You’ll see why once you read it a couple times

“Decreases PHY DMG reduction”

[cobalt crater]

like why doesnt it just say reduce target's defense

[dire holly]

Many classes with similar skills have this same description

Think of it this way

[unborn vale]

[dire holly]

There’s flat defense, right?

[cobalt crater]

to me, it just reads as reduces target's abilities and attacks

[dire holly]

Then we have dmg reduction % values

[dire holly]

[unborn vale]

Awesome scores Azure

I just got 9821 i think was a pb

23.5 cap now

[dire holly]

Whoa so pro!

[unborn vale]

Have hit some inherit exalts recently

[dire holly]

I feel like mdc matters less in culvert so your other stats probably take more priority

I don’t inherit

It’s necro or nothing!

I kind of want to try to get a better mdc soul on my spare wep because this von leon one (1.3m) is kind of a meme lol

[unborn vale]

Oh yea i got lucky someone offered me a vellum mdc one quite cheap

[unborn vale]

Yea definitely, i think you have more matk and stats than me from memory

Literally only hit cap in stages 1 and 2 or something then it disappears

[dire holly]

Yea

It’s ok though, culvert isn’t that important

Higher mdc = can do harder bosses

[unborn vale]

I just really want to crack 10k

Then I’ll give up

With boss rush maybe i hit it

[dire holly]

You know, I tell myself this all the time

But everytime I have boss rush on I perform worse somehow

I don't get it

[unborn vale]

Extra pressure maybe

[dire holly]

I have no idea lol

I even do multiple attempts and it's all bad

[sweet cedar]

Reading through all past conversations as noob BaM, gotta say this is a nice support community

[unborn vale]

We like to see the battle mages 🧙

[outer crane]

This test shows

1. Teammates share this effect
2. You can see both Min and Max damage are higher when WA is on.

So… better keep Weakening Aura on the whole time

[cobalt crater]

thank you BaM master

[unborn vale]

Quite a big difference!

[dire holly]

No more doubting me

[unborn vale]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gif-17624631783928358264

[cosmic ice]

when does it apply to be better? over all? aka the damage aura beside when usewd thanks to v1 is "worst" ?

for guild battle i know the damage aura ios better since the bosses has no defenses

sldo the 1.7m's are due to sia's linked which is casted he done 1.6 with the aura, and you didnt test the damage aura to see how mych he hits with that

sorry to be the party pooping but yeah.. not the best way to test it ( be case is to make the dude strip from link skills or buff pets and dps test with consistency off bursts )

[cosmic ice]

aura less ( not activiting damage aura so it isnt a comparisom)

[cosmic ice]

those Min.Max are when he proced sia link skill (10% FD) which shown clearly by the vid you provided

[outer crane]

Hmm..the reason I tested this is because there’s someone asking about how it works. So I made the test to see if teammates share this effect.

For most of bosses, weakening aura is better. and we have V1 🤣 so I don’t really think it’s necessary to test damage aura.

[outer crane]

If you have this question, you may see the video from 30 sec

Although it’s lesser then with sia’s link skill

You can still see it’s way higher than without weakening aura

And this is only Hilla (hard mode)
The more defense the boss gets, the more effects the weakening aura shows.

[cosmic ice]

oh yeah for sure, thought the test was whether weaking is "better" . which is mostlikely is for bosses like ark and above , really doubt it is for bosses like expedition/hila or mag

[dire holly]

Weakening applies the debuff onto the boss so anyone attacking it benefits from the attack

Other classes can debuff the boss in this way; the one that comes to mind is Night Lord’s sudden raid (pretty sure it’s this skill)

[outer crane]

Though some other classes have skills with the same effect with our weakening aura, but most of them can’t share the effect with teammates.

That’s what I was told

[cosmic ice]

isnt the damage aura shared with teamamtes too tho ?

[unborn vale]

Yea all of our auras are right?

I have a feeling they are bringing in the new cooldowns thing in June

That will make v1 = up 90s and down 30s?

So the other auras wont be as important

[dire holly]

If you turn on effects you can see the auras on nearby party members

Weakening won’t show on players but will on mobs/bosses

[dire holly]

Isn’t this worse? Current one is 120/180

Oh so you’re saying it’s 90 up, 120 down?

Is that equivalent? I can’t math right now

[unborn vale]

Yes this

So only 30 seconds when it’s ‘off’

Not sure how its gonna work, apparently they already have this for classes in kmsm

Only guessing, I’ll probably be wrong 😅

As long as they don’t do us dirty on v4

[dire holly]

Is that equivalent to what it was before with 120/180?

If it is then I guess it’s fine since a lot of bosses now are short

V4 gonna be exciting

But like you, I hope it’s not short

Hopefully 20 seconds

[unborn vale]

I read it was 45 seconds

👀

[cosmic ice]

Long fights the change is better , for shorter ones is kinda worse. Not a huge change tho most likely you gonna just adjust to it after it stops feeling weird

Hope it gonna be a long v4, it's pretty decent for mobbing , which we need a boost in

Like we ain't gonna be a top 20 class no matter what. Atleast we can be moving out of the top10 worst in mobbing

[dire holly]

Even better

[dire holly]

How is it better for mobbing? I don’t think it can be used in auto battle

[cosmic ice]

Well if it couldn't that will be a disaster... In PC version it has some very nice map AOE clears / extra dps on bosses

[dire holly]

How does it work in pc?

[cosmic ice]

It's a "background" effect , it cast lightnings to close by mobs/ boss and deal damage

[dire holly]

Doesn’t v4 rely a bit on teleport? If so, teleport can’t be used in ab

Hmmmmmmmmmm interesting

[cosmic ice]

And some mini effects related to gauge didn't bother over analysing it

[dire holly]

I thought that effect was from casting fb

[cosmic ice]

Not on PC version atleast

[dire holly]

There may be some differences between the two versions but I guess we’ll have to wait and see

[cosmic ice]

Definitely will be. Our v3 is different from PC , but the general idea is kept

Same for v2 / common resistance

The common iframe of mages makes you unable to attack in PC btw

If it would be a direct copy of PC and could be used to AB, it might be decent enough to get us to 9k-9.5k at mobbing compared to the lame 7.5-8.5k we got now

[dire holly]

Hmm and here I was thinking that it would kind of work like additional lines for fb; this would have been crazy

[cosmic ice]

Personally I low key "gave up" on dreaming we will be considered as full dps or high tier support class. ( They won't rework auras , V1 still in usable on ab etc...)
Atleast would be nice if we could get somwhat mid level exp(kill rates) while in solo instances .. which rn we on the far lower places

[dire holly]

I believe there are some videos that go over bam v4 but I can’t really read the skill description

[cosmic ice]

Me neither, but it is the same background change visuals so again I do believe the general idea will be kept. Time will tell

[dire holly]

Huh? V1 is usable in ab

[cosmic ice]

If you give up on the off cd aura

[dire holly]

Well yea

It’s worth it once you get it to higher levels

[outer crane]

80s / 120s

[unborn vale]

Ah that’s it tyty

[outer crane]

Because MapleM only has 10mins to each boss

Making the skill routine from 180s to 120s shows benefits to every classes

[sharp sable]

Naah, if new aura is 80/120s vs current 120/180s, it's more like:

• if 1 minute boss fight, no difference
• if 2 minute boss fight, old aura better (2 straight minutes of aura vs 80s new aura)
• if 3 minutes, new aura is better (80s, 40s cd, 60s = 140s of aura vs 120s old aura)
• if 4 minutes, old aura better (180s of aura vs 160s of new aura)
• if 5 minutes, old aura better (240s of aura vs 220s of new aura)
• if 6 minutes, auras r the same (240s for both old and new)
• if 7 minutes, auras r the same
• if 8 minutes, old aura better (+40s)
• if 9 minutes, new aura better (+20s)
• if 10 minutes, old aura better (+20s)

TL;dr new aura will only better if boss fight is 3 minutes (i.e. culvert) or at 9 minutes

[cosmic ice]

tbh im confused. the new cd will be 80 (not 90?) sec of up time, and when its over 120 sec of down time ?

[cobalt crater]

what he's saying is the new CD of aura is 120s but the uptime is 80s so there's only 40s downtime

[unborn vale]

[cosmic ice]

oh for some reason i thoguht its 80 up time 120 down time... so yeah... old is better

[dire holly]

Interesting

I’m excited for v4

[outer crane]

https://youtu.be/mXDeWtbngag?si=BY_jnuH6YhXZqIDK

[dire holly]

Huh? Isn’t this an old video?

Yea 11 years ago

[outer crane]

Yeah

Cause we were talking about players who play Aran, don’t want Nexon to revamp their skills that they showed on PC.

And it occurred to me of battle mage

We had the same issue 11 yrs ago

lol

[unborn vale]

I prefer these old skills

😅

The flame rock throw skill is awesome

[outer crane]

But most of BaMs hate that skill😂

See the comments below

[unborn vale]

Oh haha. I’ve never seen these skills before

[outer crane]

Cause they only showed up in test server.

[cosmic ice]

I want that tornado 😅

[dire holly]

I prefer new bam

But I would be interested in seeing a rework

[unborn vale]

V4 (from what I’ve seen) looks like our coolest skill

Hopefully this is the case

[cosmic ice]

not sure about that.. in pc version they reworking shade (my main) and it appears hes 40% weaker post rework (nice art work tho but artwork wont get you into bossing)

same for aran

[dire holly]

That doesn’t matter much

Rebalances are always ongoing so I’m not worried

Resistance classes are due for a rework so I’m excited to see something new

[cosmic ice]

i think you missed the 40% part

[dire holly]

Like I said, rebalances are always ongoing

[cosmic ice]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-16757454

[dire holly]

Depending on the severity of the rework, performance is not likely to remain the same; it may get better or worse, there’s no telling. But with that said, data will be reviewed and adjustments will be made soon after

Take a look at Sia for example. Even though she technically was not ever reworked since she was new, she had an impactful change just a month after she was released

[cosmic ice]

soon? are we playing the same game ?🙃

[dire holly]

It all depends how you look at it. Is the cup half full or half empty?

[cosmic ice]

you give me an 1 good example out of a 50 different charcthers with gaps of up to 50% difference ?

[dire holly]

All I’m saying is that rebalances are a thing. This isn’t final performance figures

[cosmic ice]

i see my self as a customer . i want to hear you say the same thing about your internet connection if they telling you " it will get better with time just wait for it " while you pay.

[dire holly]

Technically you don’t have to pay either lol

The game can be played for free

And internet connection doesn’t only fall onto Nexon. Keep in mind that things such as VPN usage, location, login method, etc, can also lead to login issues

[dire holly]

I’m ready for it

Big dps boost please

[unborn vale]

https://tenor.com/view/please-liz-lemon-tina-fey-30rock-i-beg-you-gif-21977561

[cosmic ice]

you didnt get my example. all good

[dire holly]

This conversation has changed subjects. I will leave it with this: resistance classes are due for a rework and I’m excited for it; whether dps drops or not is not an issue for me as rebalances can easily change that.

[unborn vale]

@dire holly I know it been a while

Finally

[dire holly]

My turn!

[unborn vale]

Wow 4min50 mu lung

🫨

[dire holly]

We’re making BaMs proud

[unborn vale]

@outer crane looking forward to your v4 before and after video

[outer crane]

Nice

My score is up to 14000 now

Lol

[unborn vale]

Dam!

[dire holly]

Woohoo! V4

[cobalt crater]

[junior egret]

I mean I don't wanna put the pressure on but...

[dire holly]

There was a video that showed all of the upcoming v4 skills along with their hit count

https://youtu.be/lc-x28e4k7s?si=8o6FxJ7ZbIjO32ra

[junior egret]

#msm-videos message

This one aswell

[dire holly]

I can’t translate it, but BaM’s was about 900 lines from a single cast?

Cooldown 120 seconds, duration 40 seconds

[junior egret]

Oh the moonbeam one has stats in subtitles

In english

[dire holly]

I can make out most stats

So this skill has a 0.5 sec reactivation time so there’s a tiny minute of downtime in between casts

Values probably won’t be the same for gmsm just as a disclaimer

[dire holly]

Cooldown: 120 seconds
Duration: 40 seconds
Target count (?): 5
Hit count (?): 16
Skill damage: 425%
Reactivation cooldown: 0.5 seconds
Bottom half I have no idea

Oh that’s what the bottom half is

Interesting

🤔

I wonder how useful that portal will be

[unborn vale]

You can all help me pick my new class

[dire holly]

You rerolling back?

[unborn vale]

To Lumi

🫨

Ill pick the class with the coolest v4

[junior egret]

Mech main incoming

[dire holly]

BaM pretty cool

[cobalt crater]

rr FP

staff into staff user

i think Bucc/ most of the Cygnus Knights/ BaM / DS look amazing

NL v4 is supposed to be omega strong too

[night grotto]

as a fpm I would rr bam

[cobalt crater]

[night grotto]

more aesthetically pleasing

and no need to worry about boost nodes

🥲

[cosmic ice]

for pc version the portal is never used . as for mobile im trying to think when and where a portal can be useful.... not sure

considering no one else will see it as well

[dawn python]

Maybe lotus p1? To avoid laser?

But we have teleport already.

[dire holly]

He rerolled from bam to fp already LOL

Oh maybe not. Maybe I’m thinking of @night grotto

Or both of you??

[dire holly]

Lotus maybe

But yea, no one will really see the effect anyways

[dire holly]

It’s moreso for the other party members who do not have tp

Or maybe for Damien during orb phase.

Bam can place portal on far left end and whenever the orbs switch users, the player can use portal to get right back into the action

[unborn vale]

This could be useful for orbs if placed correctly

[dire holly]

Yea

Or someone misclicks and tps back

Could be both useful and not useful

[crimson bolt]

Rejected. Don’t you dare

[night grotto]

I rerolled to fp over a year ago 😂

[dire holly]

Ok yea I think it was you that I was thinking of who rerolled

How you liking fpm by the way?

[night grotto]

I think it’s in a good spot

Recent buffs made it a lot better

But super glass cannon and needs a lot of levels to really shine

[dire holly]

That's good to hear! Are you excited about their v4?

[night grotto]

Kind of but I wondering how it’ll be on global

in kmsm our v2 has more lines than v3

So I’m curious to see how v4 is on gmsm

[dire holly]

Yea there will most likely be some differences between the two versions

But aesthetically it's nice right?

[night grotto]

just a lot of balls

i like bam skills more

[dire holly]

lol

I need to rewatch it and see for myself

BaM skill is interesting yea

[night grotto]

yeah it’s not too terrible to play just gotta manage cooldown and time bursts

I’m glad Nexon buffed bam a bit since it seems like they didn’t know what to do with the class, not enough dps to be dps and not enough support to be support

Hopefully v4 makes bam top tier dps 🙏

[dire holly]

Yea the most recent rebalance helped us out a lot. We went from roughly 15,900 to 17,000; I want not expecting this. I was expecting to get around 400-500 lines, but to get over 1k? I can't complain lol

As for the upcoming v4 and who will be coming out on top. I saw a video of the amount of lines each class would be getting from their v4, and it seems like we'll still be in the middle

Granted, this video is from kmsm (I think), so the values coming to gmsm may be a lot different

[night grotto]

yeah just gotta expect nothing

But I still get disappointed

[dire holly]

Yup!

Another thing that I am looking forward to with the release of v4 is the potential to finally get into a Damien run

Average MDC requirement for Damien should drop a bit with this release due to everyone getting more lines

[night grotto]

🙏

havent seen a bam in my server do damien yet

[dire holly]

Same here lol

[night grotto]

i believein you

i get carried in my runs

[dire holly]

As long as you pass that's all that matters lol

Is it ndamien?

[night grotto]

no hdamien

[dire holly]

Mdc?

[night grotto]

lemme double check

[dire holly]

HOLY

For some reason I thought you were around my mdc

22ish lol

[night grotto]

ra gear for exalts go crazy

[dire holly]

Oh? what's the trick?

[night grotto]

4 ra pieces

sf them during gapple season with scrolls

then use scrolls for sf 16-17

cheaper than buying straight up fodder

[dire holly]

Sounds like it yea

Wait so 4 ra and not 3?

[night grotto]

you can do 3

i made my stones around 20-25%

[dire holly]

Ah I see

Smart

I've been using my ra gear to reduce abso fail attempts lol

[night grotto]

👀

chaos to abso?

[dire holly]

No

Necro to abso

[night grotto]

oo

i think for a while i was selling my abso stones for more mesos for exalts

now im just slamming them

[dire holly]

Hmm

That might be the play for me then

[night grotto]

idk how much it is in your server tho

but for a bit abso attempts were the same price as radiant fodder

[dire holly]

I feel like it doesn't matter much since you still end up using stones for exalts

[night grotto]

yeah it depends on preference

[dire holly]

But if you jump in early enough for new bosses, then yea

It makes sense to sell the crystals

I wasn't lucky enough so the price has dropped significantly on stones

I think abso stone here goes for roughly 2.6?

[night grotto]

its about 2.2 here

ra fodder like 600-650m

[dire holly]

Hmm so one abso stone could probably get you one 20-30% radiant stone

Hmmmm

I suppose it's better than 10% abso attempt

[night grotto]

plus it stacks

i dont think you need more hp as bam since you have hb and 30% hp passive

[dire holly]

Yea we have quite a bit of hp

Think I'm sitting close to 230k without monkey

[night grotto]

i was doing legion as well and I just sf'd 18 max uniques

and when i was done i fused them to make sf17 legs for exalt scrolls fodder

thats pretty good

one damien dash and ball tick

[dire holly]

Hmm

Wish I knew about these tricks earlier LOL

[night grotto]

never too late

Issok I learned really late too ahaha

the scrolls are tradable so if you have an alt with a ton of chaos zak and cpb belts use them

[dire holly]

True lol

I might still go for abso anyways for the flex

[night grotto]

Good luck 🫡

Have you tried lucid yet?

I remembered you were like 230 ish when I talked to you

[dire holly]

I doubt I'd get invited to Lucid

I can't even get invited to damien (normal or hard) so Lucid is for sure a no

[night grotto]

what’s your af?

[dire holly]

Plus my MDC is probably too low for Lucid

760

[night grotto]

ah

if it was maxed extra 5m cap

[dire holly]

You'd probably need close to 1000 arance for the extra stats right?

[night grotto]

no need to swipe

I think it’s like 10% increments

[dire holly]

Oh wait it's more like 1200 arcane

[night grotto]

I just hit 730 af

[dire holly]

[night grotto]

Something like that

[dire holly]

Yea I am at 110% right now

[night grotto]

You’d need to be 240 plus

[dire holly]

4 more levels to go

[night grotto]

👀

then you can show off bam in lucid

[dire holly]

lol I doubt it

Although I do think BaM shield wouldn't be too bad in Lucid p1

And healing aura too

[sharp sable]

990

[sharp sable]

Yeah that's true usually everyone's huddled up very close together in p1

[dire holly]

Oh yea my maff was off the second time lol

[dire holly]

Lf Lucid/hdamien

[outer crane]

https://youtu.be/Q-WfJcxnNGg?si=NMpFKuUUtXSQQ0On

Hard Damien

[dire holly]

[outer crane]

V4 from Korea ver.

Why only 912 lines

[dire holly]

Sad

When will BaM be #1 mage?

[outer crane]

Idk because we are one of the resistant 🥲🥲

[outer crane]

But I’ve heard it’s because we can still use other skills during V4

[dire holly]

Hmm that's a good point

I wonder how many other classes can use other skills during v4

Blaze Wizard is the only other class that comes to mind at the moment

[unborn vale]

I guess ours is just extra lines while we attack as normal

I hope the iframe is useful on casting and too short

[junior egret]

One thing EU has on the other servers then

[junior egret]

Dual blade for example

Most lines and its a passive

[unborn vale]

[cosmic ice]

Pretty sure they are random

[dire holly]

Damien orbs or our portal?

Damien orbs are random and will switch to different players after x amount of time

Portals can be placed by pressing the v4 skill after it has been activated, although I’m still not sure if it’s worth using

[tiny wharf]

if there 2 battle mage are in the party does the aura stacks?

[unborn vale]

I don’t think so, but if they are both 200+ and trigger v1 at different times you could have permanent auras

[dire holly]

Two bams using two different auras will not work either. I don’t know exactly how it works, but one player will override the other player’s aura even if they are different.

[cosmic ice]

I mean if one goes damage and the other goes weakingmg (debuff on boss and not a buff) might work

Never tried it or even looked at it even tho I'm doing bosses with other 2 bams since like forevere 🫠

[dire holly]

It doesn’t work

I just stated this

[unborn vale]

Get them to activate v1 90s apart then sorted 😅

[dawn python]

Have v1 on pet. One just stays on the pet for a whole min to start the run. 😂

I’m kidding of course.

[junior egret]

Can put on pet after 90 seconds, should take like 2s max and you'll have 100% uptime rest of the run

[cosmic ice]

As for jewels , what you guys find with better results for more advanced gear setup(low amount of exp flames)

I'm player ng in the inherit>chaos route so I guess crit is most likely superior for me for higer than lotus (and for ark/lotus it dosent really matter)
I guess it's more shifting to culv score . I got no idea the stage 5/6 boss stats so I'm not even sure if I need over 160% crit for that

[unborn vale]

Ooo good question, i would have thought purple jewels, exp jewels gives me nothing personally so im biased

That crit rate boost must be nice though? Or do the crit rate guild skill and use purple boss jewels

[cosmic ice]

All crit rate guild buffs are maxed I'm around 155+- crit rate without the jewels when I buff for lotus ( I don't notice any non crits probs cuz of my crit res potentials and buffs?) I made the purple page when I had lower crit

I guess you saying full boss atk set is the way to go? I've seen many high end players with atk/damage jewel sets

[unborn vale]

Yea I’ve got the boss attack jewels (never actually tried mag dmg…)

I think 160% crit rate is loads when buffed, you can probably afford to swap the jewels for BA now?

As i think its 140% for culvert?

[cosmic ice]

Oh yeah definitely. As you can see I went all out to finish the SS exp set , and now when. I have it and low on resources I wanna know I choose the right path weather it's boss/m.atk/m.damage
Boss sounds like the easier choice but that's why I'm here

[gilded oriole]

you can get crit rate through other means. stop working on those crit rate jewels and use the SS exp Jewels.

[cosmic ice]

just asking if anyone already went through the testing for boss atk / m.att / m.damage

[dire holly]

Exp jewels will always be best for farming, and I also use it for bossing because I like not getting knocked back or stunned during some boss fights

For example, arkarium lightning will briefly stun you and push you back a tiny bit. Akarium swipe will also knock you back without SS yellow jewels, but with that said end game jewel sets usually come down to two for me; mdmg green jewels or boss atk purple jewels

I think it comes down to which stat you’re lacking more of

And yes exp jewels can also be good if you have flames scaled to it, but end game players will also be looking into rolling for ba flames; second to ba flames would be hp

[cosmic ice]

Know about or have any ratios you think that should be kept ?
Is there any desired m.atk I should aim before ,going boss attack?

I assume the higher base attack you have the more you will benefit from BA and less form extra base attack...

But again I don't know what each full set give to beginning n with.

I got slightly above 40k but let's round it
And I guess 100% BA (tbh not sure should be around 100-120 with self buffs)

[dire holly]

Matk % itself is not really a stat you should go for, for emblems, but there are some items that can get matk potentials which is best in slot. I don’t know on the top of my head which pieces those are, but generally speaking you shouldn’t worry too much about matk stats when comparing to batk or even mdmg

Are you using chaos gear?

Current emblem ratio?

Honestly it’s hard to tell without seeing your stats

[cosmic ice]

Oh. I meant the total m
Att the stat you get mainly from the weapon and symbols (mine is 40k)

[dire holly]

Yea I don’t really pay attention to that much

It’s one of those stats where you get more over time and isn’t of too much concern since other stats (cd%, mdmg, and batk) take priority

% based stats will always be better than flat values

[cobalt crater]

My stance on jewels will always be based on flames.

EXP flames - EXP Jewels
BA flames - BA Jewels
HP/ MP flames - DMG Jewels

If you're a mix of HP/MP/ EXP - EXP Jewels
HP/MA/BA - BA Jewels

In lotus, you want to switch to your EXP/ Drop Rate jewels for the kbk resistance for phase 2 and 3

[dire holly]

That’s a good way to look at it

I reallllly, really want the knock back stat to be put onto other jewels types

I don’t use any other jewel type for bossing other than SS yellows

[cosmic ice]

ayo

lower dps "off cd" and huge upgrade while v skills are up

the ied bouns looks awesome.
not sure what they meant in the changes of tele boost and battle rage
sweeping staff maybe can be used twice while v1 is on cd . but idk if its worth getting 2 node slots to reach lv 60 .
overall looks like we given a nice buff 🤟

i guess this is the long awaited resistance reblance ?

i hope the "cd removed" means teleport boost is now a toggle (1 more free pet slot for new common buffs)

[unborn vale]

They gave pets loads of slots too

Yea looks like massive buff for us (when v1 up)? And 15% passive mag dmg from ethereal form

[cosmic ice]

the ied apperintly is all around buff . still very good

we ,ight be able to auto telecast (i guess its just better for quicker mobility rather than boss benfits)

hope the next stage will be them enabling all non cd skills to be held down

thats what i found that directly effect bams . if you find extras - share

ohhh

thats a nice add up

[unborn vale]

Yea got finishing blow now able to be held down

Pretty nice

Small buff of finishing blow ill take it

[cosmic ice]

is it?

it seemed like only the telepor t one is

[unborn vale]

Teleport is the unavailable list

[cosmic ice]

oh

OH

so all skills are

even better

who even needed the teleport HAHA

seems also like we getting more than "just" 3m mdc cap

all the mdc resources are being boosted in nu,bers

[unborn vale]

Yea its huge changes

I still dont understand v4, it says triggers the lightning when combat teleport is used… but im assuming not

[cosmic ice]

It should be when darkshock mark is reapplied or something

I think using the teleporter of the v4 (portals) would trigger an extra attack

[outer crane]

Looks like we have to do teleport while V4 remains

[unborn vale]

Yea it says that

But in the video they are not

[outer crane]

lol

[unborn vale]

[outer crane]

I’ll do some test

With and without teleporting

[dire holly]

Interesting changes

[unborn vale]

Did not expect these

The v1 line buff is huge

[dire holly]

Yea… the fb during downtime is a bit sad though, but it should be an overall improvement to hit count

[dawn python]

Seems odd on the dg nerf. Dg wasn’t op to begin with. V4 trigger condition is confusing. Do we need to telecast again or not? I hope not. Feels like portal will trigger v4 lightning on its own. With reactivation time, we may not need to do anything else to max out v4 dps.

With 5% dmg to boss. I guess teleport will trigger ADDITIONAL abyssal lightning that is separate from the dark shock triggered ones? So seems like a hunting skill. But this is msm. No one manual play.

Unless they start allowing teleport on ab. Now that would be interesting.

[dire holly]

No need to telecast again as it does 5% of the original value

But I think 545Z is speculating that it may be the way to maximize dps?

I don’t even think v4 can be used during ab soo

[dawn python]

Isn’t v4 a buff so I figure we can just put it on a pet?

We will find out soon I guess. But 170 buff is nice. Not quite to the 72hits you wanted. But an improvement. However my question is is the new staff still a dps increased compared to the new v1 or staff is only used during v1 downtime?

[dire holly]

It is, but the skill description will probably say something along the lines, “cannot be equipped on pet”

I remember seeing red text in the skill description in a kmsm video

[dire holly]

It would be a dps increase due to the number of lines it has over v1

[dawn python]

But didn’t we determine previously that v1 animation is quicker than 170?

Or maybe I remembered wrong.

[dire holly]

That’s what I had thought previously, but after some testing the line count is significantly higher when sweeping staff is used

[dawn python]

Ok. That makes the decision easy then. Thanks.

[dire holly]

Np!

[outer crane]

Increased 800 cap

[dire holly]

[dawn python]

V4 can be put on pet. Wonder what’s the max duration as it seems to go up each lvl.

[unborn vale]

I think it’s 40s?

Guessing

[dawn python]

Oh. Mmm. I will play with slot enhancement to see the diff each lvl up. Seems like 0.5s each. 15 + 25 initial yea 40 seems reasonable.

[unborn vale]

I’ll Max it as soon as this download finishes

Finally the nodes from February can be open haha

[dire holly]

Seems to up like 1 second every few levels lol

I'm one level off max

New multi ghb score for me

Oh I forgot about resistance skill lol

[sharp sable]

i have no idea how to use this new skill

[unborn vale]

Wow wtf

Huge?

[unborn vale]

Me too i cant tell if it casts by itself or on teleport

Definitely in teleport for mobbing (but useless in ab obviously)

[dire holly]

It casts on monsters targetted by dark brand

Nothing will happen in ab unless your altars can't one shot the mobs

[unborn vale]

Ps

20,238 lines post patch

Without v4

3min test

Just counting with v4

[dire holly]

HOLY

That's insane

[dire holly]

Wait that's crazy

TP wipes the entire map???

[unborn vale]

22k lines with v4

But i think i messed up a bit

[dire holly]

That's so good!

[unborn vale]

V4 did 2222 lines

[dire holly]

I think the reason for that is because v4 works on a 0.5 second reactivation time

So timing isn't going to be perfect

[unborn vale]

Yea need to do some practice

Its a bit like the TB thunder spear thing i guess?

[dire holly]

I am not familiar with how their skill works, but maybe?

Regardless of if the run could be better or not, 22k lines is crazy good

[dire holly]

@unborn vale TP with v4 active in af map is so good! If only this was possible during ab

It just wipes everything lol

I am thinking of suggesting one way to make v4 proc in ab without having to rely solely on altars; battle burst should be able to activate v4

[cosmic ice]

I equipped it on my pet

[dire holly]

It's pretty useless in ab though, so it's not worth equipping on pets

Not even for bossing

It's better to manually cast it for when you know the boss will be stationary

Or won't cast dr

etc

[cosmic ice]

On bossing I presented it with v1

[dire holly]

I have them both separate

[cosmic ice]

You sure it does nothing on ab? It felt it does but alittle

[dire holly]

It doesn't

Only altars will work with it

And you know how our altars are in ab lol

[cosmic ice]

Also, do you guys see the lightnings when it's casted? I see the damage but no visual effects beside background

Oh well

[dire holly]

Are your effects up?

[cosmic ice]

Ofc

[dire holly]

You won't see them in ab

[cosmic ice]

Got em up just for that

[dire holly]

If you use teleport you will see it

TP with v4 is crazy!

But too bad tp doesn't work in ab

[cosmic ice]

Is it?

[dire holly]

Yea try it!

It's clears the map so well

[cosmic ice]

You recast it to trigger right?

[dire holly]

No that's just for portal

The lightning procs if you hit a mob with dark brand debuff

[cosmic ice]

Oh. On PC it's a recast that teleport you to the nearest I think

[dire holly]

The lightning will also proc if you cast tp

I have't tried the teleport

I am talking about telecasting

[cosmic ice]

Ohh

[dire holly]

Like actually using your tp skill

[cosmic ice]

Youwan normal teleport?

[dire holly]

Yea

Try it!

[cosmic ice]

Ah isee

Will do

[dire holly]

It's so good

But makes me sad it can't be used in ab lol

[cosmic ice]

Yeah so basically same method as in pc

[dire holly]

Yea

[cosmic ice]

Yeah weird that they haven't adjusted it

Aren't our V1 prox dark brand?

And v3

[dire holly]

v1 and v3 yes, but you know how bad placing our altars can be in farming so it's not great

v1 you still have to attack a mob that has been branded with the debuff, but you should be one-shotting the mobs already

If you one shot, which you should, you won't see lightning from v3

So essentially it's useless in ab

[unborn vale]

Its actually wild with teleport

I see how pc bam is OP farmer

[dire holly]

I think a compromise would be to make it work with battle burst

Or have v4 activate on its own and act like a full map aoe skill only during ab

[unborn vale]

I was trying to figure out if teleporting makes it proc faster on the battle analysis

Cant tell

[cosmic ice]

In PC global there's frenzy so off cd they are a it ehh . But yeah when everything is up map size isnt an issue 😂

[cosmic ice]

It has a very short cd between casts, it has limit

[dire holly]

It probably does if you miss time your fb attacks

[cosmic ice]

Maybe 0.5 sec?

[dire holly]

But I don’t think it’s worth it considering it only does 5%

And now that we have the hold-down function, I don’t think it’s worth using at all

[cosmic ice]

Pretty sure it's 5% when you use the portals

[dire holly]

Like you’re probably losing dps

No it states in the skill description that teleport does 5% to boss

The portal is a utility function and doesn’t do damage

[unborn vale]

Very true

I forgot about the portals

[cosmic ice]

My bossing wheel it's overwhelmed by the new skills lol

[dire holly]

Time to put stuff on presets

[cosmic ice]

Now that you somwhat have to also use the iframe skill(which I sold all the dupes I had to hit what a grife move lol)

[night grotto]

bam op now? 👀

[cosmic ice]

Pretty sure you wanna use it only when V1 is down

[dire holly]

This is the preset I use for bossing

[cosmic ice]

Idk if op but def above mid

[night grotto]

thats all i needed to hear

[dire holly]

You rerolling back birb?

[night grotto]

I wish it wasn't that expensive to rr

[dire holly]

True

How’s the fpm changes?

[night grotto]

its nice

[cosmic ice]

Well 170 isn't as strong by V1 to be worth the slower casting ? Pretty sure that was the math

[dire holly]

Good to hear!

[night grotto]

purple lightning goes crazy tho

[dire holly]

170 has more lines and is always worth casting if you cap

[dire holly]

Can’t be used in ab though

Well it can but the lightning doesn’t work if you one shot

So it doesn’t add to our mobbing at all

[cosmic ice]

Maybe it's valid if you 235+ I guess. At 220 I won't remove decent skills for 2 extra boost nodes

[night grotto]

happy that the gap between classes are closing

makes me worried about the future bosses and how hard they're going to be

[cosmic ice]

And if you don't have the nides at 40 with out the ied its kinda bad... So probs a min.max for higher levels

[cosmic ice]

Yeah this time they did some good stuff to overall classes(not only bams) gotta give them that

Still waiting for being able to use both aura and V1 on pets ...🫠

[night grotto]

maybe one day

[cosmic ice]

They can fix that issue by making re-casting the same aura trigger V1

[dire holly]

@night grotto

If only

[night grotto]

thats hot