Battle Mage

[smoky fjord]

I hate telecasting so much

[dire holly]

That’s how progression works

[smoky fjord]

The range of the shock is terrible vertically

[dire holly]

It makes you want to get to 200 to experience a better bam

[rancid estuary]

also do u not move when u boss? i teleport to dodge attacks and that already brands the boss

[dire holly]

Yes, speak for me wuwu

[smoky fjord]

Bruh telecasting horizontal you lose so.much dps

[dire holly]

I need a break

[smoky fjord]

Vertically u need to be under the boss

[rancid estuary]

you don’t tho

[dire holly]

You don’t even do dps with teleport anymore

Like I said, it’s purely for dodging now

Use v2 for branding

[smoky fjord]

But to brand the enemy

[dire holly]

V2v2v2v2

[smoky fjord]

To get max DPS u have to telecast

[dire holly]

[rancid estuary]

v2v2v2v2

[smoky fjord]

Prior 200

[dire holly]

Once again

Ok fair

But are you post-200 now?

[smoky fjord]

We have to also think about bams lower than 200

[dire holly]

They’re fine

[rancid estuary]

gettijg bam to 200 is like so bad LMAO

but

[dire holly]

They have post 200 to get excited about

[rancid estuary]

the telecast range increase

[smoky fjord]

Ok personally I hate playing when I was below 200

[rancid estuary]

i’ve NEVER had a problem marking a boss with dark brand by telecasting the range is pre wide

[dire holly]

Ah it’s like I’m listening to pre 200 BaMs

[smoky fjord]

But this is why no one wants to play the class

[dire holly]

Post 200 is where the fun is at for BaMs

Get excited!

Pre 200 for all classes is rather lackluster

Maybe moreso for BaMs

But that’s the fun!

[smoky fjord]

Ok but I had a terrible time

[rancid estuary]

no one wanna play cus we bottom tier

[smoky fjord]

Just saying lol

[dire holly]

Everyday you inch closer to 200, you get a little more excited to see what life is like on the other side

[rancid estuary]

[dire holly]

You don’t think we all did?

I probably suffered the longest here

[rancid estuary]

[dire holly]

They didn’t boost exp as much as they did now

[rancid estuary]

too many bricks

[dire holly]

I didn’t have sf194 for a long time

[rancid estuary]

[dire holly]

Two bricks for two BaM players right now

[rancid estuary]

[dire holly]

Please help me have hope for BaMs again

[dire holly]

Not you

[rancid estuary]

[smoky fjord]

I like my aura brand idea still but I can compromise

[dire holly]

The compromise is v2

[rancid estuary]

[dire holly]

Use it, it’ll change your life

[sharp sable]

[rancid estuary]

v2 is

[sharp sable]

This threads hilarious

[rancid estuary]

i love this emoji

[smoky fjord]

😂

[dire holly]

You guys make me want to reroll to Sia

[smoky fjord]

I shouldn't say aura brand because I want it to be a toggle. But ok V2 it is let the guys below lvl 200 suffer

[dire holly]

It’s not even that bad to get to 200 now

[rancid estuary]

do it so i can take ur spot pls thanks

[dire holly]

People can get to 200 in a months time

[dire holly]

Please do, and take my mod role too

My head in pain

[rancid estuary]

[dire holly]

[rancid estuary]

[smoky fjord]

But I think we agreed with a lot of things. So I'm looking forward to a complete list for the feedback thread when you are ready

[dire holly]

Can you please tell me what those agreements were?

Want to make sure we’re on the same page

[smoky fjord]

The shield. I have no issue with any of the offensive buff suggested

[dire holly]

Ok so just to really make sure

You agree with 45 second duration, 5 second cooldown (for repositioning), and 15% damage reduction (current iteration) without hypers

[smoky fjord]

Yes

[dire holly]

Offensive buffs have slipped my mind

[smoky fjord]

@dawn python also agreed

[dire holly]

[smoky fjord]

You guys made some good suggestions earlier. With scythe value being increased

[dire holly]

Ah yes yes

[rancid estuary]

[dire holly]

I’ll include that to the list

[smoky fjord]

Then we talked about the condemnation soul being reduced off the 150 hyper

[dire holly]

120% to 150%, 3% per level to 2% per level

Condemnation we still need to figure out a number for the soul count, but I’ll look at that later

[smoky fjord]

I wanted the delay of animation to be reduced

[dire holly]

I have already added casting animation improvements to a lot of our main skills

[smoky fjord]

@sharp sable we are still 2nd behind Sia with the most comments 😂😂

[dawn python]

We just have some diehards.

Also this is something I think we can all agree. When using v2 on ab, it needs to place all four alter at the same time like we do with down arrow pressed.

This should be added to the list cuz right now I don’t even use v2 for ab

[dire holly]

100% down for this one

I do since it’s added aoe for me

[dawn python]

I just track my mesonfarming rate over a long ab. I noticed adding v2 to ab was lowering my meso rate. So I took it off.

This is af120

[dire holly]

This is probably true because of the long cast time for each altar

[rancid estuary]

i ab with v2 as well

[dawn python]

Hopefully this is also on your list. Allowing v1 during ab. Since we can’t have both aura and v1 on buff pet, I usually just use haste aura when farming. Missing out on the added range and other benefits.

[rancid estuary]

but i’d like it to place 4 altars at once too

[dire holly]

I have mentioned this issue long ago, and have since found out that pcms still has this problem

So I don’t think it’s as easy of a fix as we think?

[dawn python]

Just make v1 an active skill will make it triggerable during ab

[dire holly]

The thing is that you can’t

From what I can see

They consider v1 an aura skill

That is where the problem lies

The problem has been mentioned, so we just have to wait

[dawn python]

Well with the new added range to fb. This isn’t as big of an issue as before. But yea would be nice if we can have v1 as well as other aura when v1 on cd.

[dire holly]

So imagine if fb was somehow able to be placed on pets

We wouldn’t be able to equip both either lol

[dawn python]

Haha. Return of the T. rex arms.

[dire holly]

I think the system or code has a hard time removing an aura that’s on pets and replacing it with v1?

I don’t know

Coding is beyond me

[dawn python]

Right now ab just ignores buff placed on wheel

So that buff pets have a reason to exist

[dire holly]

That could be a nice workaround for v1

Allow it to be used during ab if on wheel

[dawn python]

Yep

That’s why I said allow v1 during ab was a solution initially.

[dire holly]

It’d be more ideal if both v1 and aura could be on pets

But this workaround isn’t bad either

I’ll add that in later

[dawn python]

We will try to slowly restore your faith in your fellow BaMs. 😉

[dire holly]

[sharp sable]

V2 might decrease your meso rate but it improves your kill/exp rate for the party

Unless your bam is weak

[dire holly]

My v2 doesn’t one shot unless it crits a bunch

[sharp sable]

Ya probably can't one-shot in the harder maps

[dire holly]

It’s only lvl… 2 or 3

So it’ll be capable of one-shotting eventually

Right now I’m just focused on maxing v1; 4 more levels to go

[crimson bolt]

Since release here

[dire holly]

Me too

[crimson bolt]

I’ve seen it all. Will still see more of this clown show

[dire holly]

Unfortunately..

But no worries, I’m on the case!

[dawn python]

I started at release as well. I mean I took some to build a few other chars but bam is still my highest lvl char.

[rancid estuary]

so close

[steady sinew]

Same

[steady sinew]

So you will propose this? And with hyper persist = 60s shield, 5s cool down?

[dire holly]

Without hyper: 45 second duration, 5 second cooldown, 15%
With hypers: 60 second duration, 5 second cooldown, 25%

Cooldown hyper will have to be reworked in this case

[steady sinew]

Lolololll 0 cool-down

[dawn python]

Can be further enhance to bring it to 35%

[dire holly]

But you understand why I suggested 5 second cooldown, right?

[dire holly]

No

[steady sinew]

Yes

[dire holly]

Ok good, that's all I ask for lol

[dawn python]

For the 2nd hyper.

[steady sinew]

Repositioning purposes, similar to mech

[dire holly]

Don't think this is a good idea

[dawn python]

To replace cd hyper

[dire holly]

Yes

[dawn python]

Or just drop the hyper. I can use the pt in dps

[dire holly]

They'd have to replace it with something because each class has 9 hypers to choose from

[steady sinew]

For now I’ve put shield on preset and it’s on when it’s on.. idgaf

[dire holly]

Yea..

Shield wacky

[steady sinew]

Mindless shield

[dire holly]

That's a pretty good idea actually

I might try that in bosses other than ark

[dawn python]

Btw for drain aura. I think it needs buff like you talked about. For caster, 1s deactivation 10% hp cap. For party members current stat is fine.

[dire holly]

1s is too powerful

Currently it is capped at 15% of max hp

I have suggested for 3 second reactivation time

I think that should be fine for now

[smoky fjord]

https://youtu.be/ue6t5S6zIA8

Make drain aura like winky's phantom 🤣

[dire holly]

Some classes like marksman, phantoms, or dks, have way better healing than we do

Makes no sense

DK I understand, but for the other 2 not really

[dawn python]

I mean I prefer consistent healing over lumpy. So 1s reactivating 5% cap is fine.

[dire holly]

Actually phantom healing makes sense, but marksman is a weird one

[smoky fjord]

Marksman can heal

Didn't know that

I need to make a marksman

[dire holly]

So BaM in pc used to have consistent healing, until they changed it sometime after I quit

I am pretty sure they have a healing skill

[dawn python]

What’s current reactivation? 5s? 3a still seems lumpy

[dire holly]

5 seconds

Like I said

At 15% max hp, 3 second reactivation time is good

Just for reference, Mechanic's Hex can heal 5k per tick and lasts.... 30 seconds I believe?

[dawn python]

At least in the right direction. If you can make it happen. All powers to you.

[dire holly]

I can make suggestions, the rest is up to the devs

[dawn python]

Maybe we ask for more and they give us closer to what we want. Lol. Negotiations. We want 1s 10% and settle for 3s 15%

[smoky fjord]

I mean in boss content it doesn't really help

[dire holly]

Maybe, but I won't do that

[smoky fjord]

Is this for farming purposes?

[dire holly]

If it was self healing for draining aura, then maybe I would consider doing consistent healing, but it's a party aura

[dawn python]

To offset drains in my mind

[dire holly]

So that's something you guys have to think about as well

[dire holly]

Bossing

[dawn python]

Bam benefits is different from party benefits

We can just increase the gap

[smoky fjord]

Still going to use pe in boss contents

[dire holly]

There is no difference for draining aura

The only difference is that BaM can heal the party

And the players in that party can heal themselves with our aura

[dawn python]

Oh. Maybe I mixed it up with ds skill

[smoky fjord]

What % is it at now 1%?

[smoky fjord]

Hp recovery scaling

[dawn python]

Then I say we separate the benefits. 2s 15% for us. 5s for party member. Also when we heal them they get 50% benefits

So it won’t get op

[dire holly]

No it's saying that when we attack we can also heal the party

[dawn python]

I think that’s how ds skill works.

[dire holly]

But when the players in that party attacks, they only heal themselves

Do you get it?

The reactivation time for both BaM and player is the same

[dawn python]

I get how it works. Just saying we need to separate benefits in order to buff this skill. Otherwise too op.

Buff for us that is.

[dire holly]

PC BaMs' draining aura is similar to this

The picture above ^

[dawn python]

Tbh, I prefer ds party drain over ours. If we can just steal that instead.

I will ss that skill when I am out of eos.

[dire holly]

I would prefer to make draining aura just a BaM aura only, but that's probably not going to happen

It WAS once like that long, long ago, but it has since changed

I am aware of DS healing

It's also similar to DK healing

[smoky fjord]

Ok so you only want a 3s reactivation

[dire holly]

Marksman

Their's it not quite as good as I thought

[smoky fjord]

Cuz theirs have a duration interesting

[dawn python]

Duration is for the Fd buff

[dire holly]

So theirs is more like hp per second

Not like dk or ds

[smoky fjord]

Yup

For 10s that's like 100% uptime

[dawn python]

Tbh that’s better. Consistent fast healing.

[smoky fjord]

Constantly use it

[dire holly]

I am suggesting 3 seconds. It heals 15% of max hp, so the healing is pretty good

[dawn python]

I want 1s healing hehe. I will take lesser cap in return.

Is one tick 1s or tick is shorter?

[smoky fjord]

So the hp recovery 15% for draining aura. 15% of what?

[dawn python]

Max hp

[smoky fjord]

In the current description

[dawn python]

If you did enough dog

Dmg

1% of dmg. Do 15k heal needs 100k hp and do 1.5m dps. But if it happen to tick on a weak attack like dark lightning. Then you get less.

For me 1s 5% cap is better than 3s 15% cap

Just my personal opinion

Preference rather.

[dire holly]

I think the small burst heal is better

There are already too many small heals from other classes going off

[dawn python]

Ok I will defer to you on this pt. Perhaps we can ask for the highest dmg line within 1s used to calculate the hp heal when it triggers. Cuz right now we have no control and some of our lines are weak lines hence far less than cap healing.

[dire holly]

I don't know about you, but I am healing about 22k without buffs

And on one of the weaker skills of mine right now, v2, I can still heal 22k

The lowest heal line I saw from v2 was roughly 9k

So imagine what it would be like if I had buffs on the lower lines

[dawn python]

Sometimes I see 4k heal. Figure it was an hyper ad line or dark shock line.

[dire holly]

Gear is important when it comes to get the most out of your heals

[dawn python]

You got me there. I’m around 34k atk but crappy stats otherwise

[dire holly]

34k is really good

Also you can heal more if you have higher max hp

[dawn python]

Lol. My other stats are lacking.

[dire holly]

HP?

[dawn python]

102k I think.

[dire holly]

Hmm

Let me check mech real quick to get a comparison

Ok so Mechanic Hex heals for about 5k per second

Sooo if we do 1 minute worth of healing

Mech can heal 300k in a minute

BaM is uh..

Assuming we hit the max healing cap at uh

Let's do 125k hp

So 19k every 5 seconds

228k in a minute

[dawn python]

So we are 2/3 their heal

[dire holly]

Well ours scale the higher our max hp goes

Theirs is a flat heal

[dawn python]

Factor in some weak heals

[dire holly]

Factoring in some weak heals, let's just put the value at 200k even

But again mech heals are flat values (5k)

BaM is a percentage of our max hp

So that number can go up

The hp I used for this example was 125k hp

[dawn python]

So far in the distance we have a brighter future.

Seems like the bam story from the start. Hehe

Anyway. 3s will be a big improvement over current. So go for it.

[dire holly]

Just more healing info

Bishop's Holy Fountain can heal up to 10% max hp per tick (let's assume 1 tick every second), for 100% uptime

So at the same 125k hp value, that's 750k hp healed in a single minute

Assuming that you are in range of the fountain

If we improved BaMs draining aura reactivation cooldown to 3 seconds with the same 15% max hp value, we get a total of 375k in a minute

[dawn python]

Sounds to me we aren’t asking for too much.

[dire holly]

If you also factor in that the party members can heal themselves too

That matches bishop’s fountain and more because BaM’s attacks also heals the party

Actually let’s not factor that in, it gets a little too complicated lol

[smoky fjord]

So how does this crit res change work?

From my understanding it says 100% crit was max even if you have the Necro weapon. With the new changes you are now able to go over 100% crit.

So for boses who have crit res let's say 50. If you have 150% crit rate it's 150%-50%

Is that correct?

[compact steeple]

Yes that's true for current patch

[unborn vale]

Yes correct

So necro fair trade adds 100% to your base crit rate now

And everything over 100% cr helps with harder bosses and culvert

[dawn python]

Is fair trade necro only or also available via inherited route once reaching the absolute tier?

[dire holly]

It should be? Although, I cannot confirm this

Absolab weapon is far away for a lot of players

So necro weapon for fair trade in the long run might be better

[dawn python]

Indeed. Perm crit advantage and the drain downside is lessen over time as gear gets better since it’s a flat value.

[dire holly]

Yea

[steady sinew]

Imma try beat your score tmr 🤭🤭😈

[lusty chasm]

How's bam after update?

[dire holly]

I haven’t tried gd with new update yet but I’m aiming for 500m

[dire holly]

The same with an arguably worse shield

[unborn vale]

The slight boost on v1 and condemnation has added some dps for sure

Not loads but more than before

[unborn vale]

Gz Maria

[smoky fjord]

And imagine if the animation for condemnation was lower making it attack even faster.

[dawn python]

Maybe less swiping at empty space with that change. Haha

[smoky fjord]

Definitely

[outer crane]

Hi it’s me

[night grotto]

big fan!

[outer crane]

😍😍😭

Opps wrong emoji

[night grotto]

how do you feel about the changes?

[outer crane]

Thank you

My rank went up in louts
Before this update I was like rank 8, and now I’m up to 5

So I think it’s a little buff for BaM

BaM needs V4 skill
It provides tons of damage in a short time

So keep playing BaM
I’ll be with you guys (:

[night grotto]

so when v4 comes out you'll be rank 1 right?

[outer crane]

Lol I hope so

https://youtu.be/HSLtsZ3evDo

As you can see
My damage during the battle keeps staying at rank 3-4

Hope you all can subscribe for me.

Thanks 🙏🏼

[night grotto]

thats crazy

i dont think anyone is as strong as you rn

[night grotto]

ofc how else are you going to fund your bam

gotta get that yt ad revenue

[outer crane]

By the way .
I don’t have necro. 😂

[outer crane]

Really appreciate

[night grotto]

are you full inherit?

[outer crane]

Yes

[night grotto]

bruh

gz on the staff tho

[outer crane]

What kinds of subject you guy would like to watch for BaM

[night grotto]

im pretty sure everyone would love to see boss runs, sc, and your gear

oh my

[outer crane]

Here’s my equipments

[outer crane]

Ok thanks
I’ll have more boss run videos ☺️☺️

[night grotto]

7set absol lab soon

[outer crane]

I’ll collect chaos first

[night grotto]

谢谢大哥

im pretty sure everyone else has questions but they are sleeping

[outer crane]

Haha that’s okay
The time zones 😂😂

Well… aren’t you going to sleep?

[night grotto]

I have exams ahaha

[outer crane]

Ohh okay
Wish you luck 🍀

[unborn vale]

How come you don’t have necro? Just better for chaos route?

Easier to exalt etc?

[night grotto]

Thank you!

[rancid estuary]

OMGGG he's in the discord!!

[outer crane]

😍

hello

[rancid estuary]

嗨~~ 😆

[outer crane]

how long have you guys playing BaM

[rancid estuary]

i've played on and off 2 years so probably not as long as some people here 😆 how about you?

[outer crane]

I played BaM on PC maple story.
so after BaM came to maple story M, I've played it since then.

[unborn vale]

Ive only played for 75 days maybe

Rerolled from Lumi and now 208 on the BaM

So quite new

[steady sinew]

WOW HELLO!!!!!

[outer crane]

Nice

[outer crane]

Hello

[steady sinew]

Are you on telegram?

[outer crane]

Nope I don’t have that sorry

[steady sinew]

Ohhh it’s ok!

I don’t know what to ask you Hahhaha starstruck

Can I see your v matrix 🤩🤩🤩🤩

[outer crane]

Of course

@steady sinew

[steady sinew]

This is for bossing ?

[outer crane]

Training

[steady sinew]

Ok thank you for sharing !!

Good to know my nodes same

[smoky fjord]

Your thoughts on the current bam party shield

[outer crane]

Hmm…I think it’s a nice changing
Cause it can now decreases all kinds of attacks even Damien’s attacks

Though the remaining time is short now
But sometimes it can still provide getting killed by deadly skills

[outer crane]

👍

[smoky fjord]

I think the old shield was better overall. It guarded more attacks and decrease damage more than the current. Only advantage for this shield is that it can block those attacks that usually one shot you by 15% but you typically die either way or come close to. We want Nexon to improve our shield.

[smoky fjord]

If you think the shield needs improvement let us know. You can also let us know your other suggestions.

[outer crane]

I think it can remain longer than current one

That helps

Maybe 30 sec

10 sec is way too short
After you use the shield and there’s only 8 secs left

[smoky fjord]

Right. You have to make that 10 seconds count.

[outer crane]

☺️☺️

[sharp sable]

You have lvl90 FB and dark shock?

That gear is wild though damn

[outer crane]

But every skill has limit to Lv60

[sharp sable]

Yeah ... Maybe they'll increase it in the future

That's crazy you guys beat damien already gawdammmm

A BaM too gives me hope for all other bb bams

[outer crane]

Nope still doing the research

[sharp sable]

Oh I thought u needed to beat damien to get absolab weapon crystals

Oh that's chaos normal

Nvm ignore me

What's your cap 20m?

[outer crane]

17.9% critical damage

[sharp sable]

O I was asking Ur max cap

[outer crane]

Ohh yes 2068

[dire holly]

Welcome!

[outer crane]

316 sf

Hi

[dire holly]

How are you liking BaMs?

[outer crane]

10000%

[dire holly]

Excited for v3?

[outer crane]

I’m waiting for V4

[dire holly]

What does that skill do again?

It’s the portals, right?

[outer crane]

V3?

[dire holly]

V4

V3 is the uhh summon thing

[outer crane]

Hmm it’s kinda like dark shock but like lighting that comes from the sky

[dire holly]

https://youtu.be/EDT2WnodlZE

So at 1:14?

Looks pretty strong

[outer crane]

Yeah

[dire holly]

[outer crane]

I found a GIF

[smoky fjord]

It will most likely work different in this mobile version

I remember you had to be teleporting to activate it before

Unless they changed it

[outer crane]

You don’t have to teleport now

[dire holly]

So it’s like additional lines now

Interesting

[smoky fjord]

So works just like luminous v1

[unborn vale]

Oh yea question! Does anyone use dark chain?

I think no… but wanted to check

[smoky fjord]

I do

I pair it with final blow. Because of the dark chain delay after it pulls monsters in, it's better to put it in front of fb

I only use it for auto battle

[unborn vale]

I need to try it again

[dawn python]

This is about as good as I can do post patch without br. Problem is really making no mistakes for a good minute and change in order to clear fl42. If we still had old shield, would have been a lot easier. @unborn vale think we are close in tier unless you powered up recently.

Oh yea bam is pretty dead on my server but that means medals. So that’s the bright side

[dire holly]

That’s a solid time

[dawn python]

Don’t laugh, I will show a ss of my gear later when I’m out of eos. I get shit on a lot for my gear. 😉

[dire holly]

Don’t worry, my gear is probably worse

I have all ba/ma emblem gear

[dawn python]

Trust me, yours aren’t worse by a long shot.

Nothing exalted except weapon and only emb is bd

This is my bossing setup.

[outer crane]

But the critical system changed
So you can make 100% critical damage that helps you pass this faster

[dire holly]

Roughly 3 minutes floor 42 with that gear is quite good I'd say

[dawn python]

I was fully buffed minus br.

[dawn python]

Yea critical rate isn’t a problem for me. I actually have max crite rate hyper on this char. I was building it for max farming efficiency.

[dire holly]

Still a good time if you ask me

[dawn python]

Since my gear is subpar, I did optimize everything else like when to use which skill so when I’m at the later lvls the important ones will all be available. Plus I was even using fever tickets for that final extra boosts. And played on the edge like minimizing the battle burst usage and try to squeeze in every hit I can before I must move. That’s why I really feel the change in shield duration. That was my “break for emergency “ lever.

And sadly I still failed clearing nmag right after that run with the remaining buff. Cuz I haven’t learned nmag pattern and what rotation I need to pass it consistently

[dire holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD_B-iUZ_Tc&t=5s&ab_channel=Yeow

Watched the whole thing

This was the video I used to learn from before attempting hmag

[dawn python]

Thanks. Gonna study up. Would like to be able to farm those crystals for future chaos items.

[dire holly]

[unborn vale]

Nice! I think i must he similar and BaM also dead on my server so the medals are excellent

Ill check my time but 2:30 is great

[unborn vale]

I forgot I haven’t even done it this week, i’ll try later 🤣

[steady sinew]

These are unbuffed stats?
Your boss atk is so high!

Hmmm I dunno how to get more boss atk …

[outer crane]

Yes it’s unbuffed
Emblem provides a lot of boss atk

[outer crane]

All of my emblems are Lv5

[steady sinew]

How many ba emblems ?

Hmmm built my bam with 8 crit dmg, 1 ba emblems .. my boss atk is <100% unbuffed 😂

[outer crane]

4 boss

And my accessories got 3 boss emblem as well

[outer crane]

Just made another chaos

[smoky fjord]

@outer crane congrats

And I'm here still working on Necro 😭

So to chaos normal equipment. What is the use?

[outer crane]

Different path of making equipments

[outer crane]

I have 3 sets now

[smoky fjord]

That's a lot

[outer crane]

2000hp+6%critical hit

[outer crane]

Yup it makes my hp goes to almost 18 thousand

[smoky fjord]

So will you make absolab?

[smoky fjord]

This is good

[outer crane]

Yup

But after I made my equipments chaos

[steady sinew]

Wow congratulations!!

[outer crane]

50000 mag atk

[unborn vale]

👀👀👀👀👀

[outer crane]

[spark herald]

Do you crit 100% of the time?

[outer crane]

Almost

[snow thistle]

👁️👁️👁️

and I'm happy with 24k attack :)))

[unborn vale]

Anyone noticed if the changes to dark shock gives us more dps? I never levelled up the node so need to do that…

[outer crane]

Yes

Go level up the nodes😂😂

[unborn vale]

Ty i had ignored it before but need to do that one now

Only level 29

[smoky fjord]

https://youtu.be/yo9ZJcOaTSU

Caught it @outer crane 🤣

[outer crane]

Lol

Thanks😂😂

Kind of lucky

[sage cedar]

What’s your GD score @outer crane

[outer crane]

6004

[keen scaffold]

ew 30mil for 1 starforce

[outer crane]

35th Sf cost 50mil lol

[unborn vale]

[outer crane]

Hi Battle mages
Plz subscribe my YouTube channel
I need 100 subscribers
and there’s 15 to go
Thank you all🙏🏼🙏🏼
https://youtube.com/@545Z

[rancid estuary]

[rigid frost]

What's the duration of Aura Scythe when maxed? Thinking of creating a battlemage aha. I wish they have resources that show all maple M class skills

[rancid estuary]

120 seconds

[rigid frost]

Ah thanks, what's the cool down? 🤔. That's all I need to know aha

[rancid estuary]

180s! so 60s downtime

[compact steeple]

Your 90th subscriber

[outer crane]

thank you

[unborn vale]

Done bro!

[outer crane]

Really appreciate

[outer crane]

3 more to go 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[spark herald]

100!

[outer crane]

Yeah thanks to you all

[unborn vale]

I think i pb for me

Dark shock lvl 50 now

[outer crane]

Nice

[unborn vale]

@outer crane

https://youtu.be/pDFJhU6oBgI

Nice bro

[outer crane]

I don’t have necro😂

[unborn vale]

Yea but still mega

You will try to get Absolab Staff from your chaos weapon?

[dawn python]

Will absolab weapon get fair trade or is that still necro only path?

[dire holly]

Necro/inherit converges into absolab, so it’ll have fair trade

[dawn python]

Ahh so my inherited weapon can eventually get fair trade in the end. Tyty

[dire holly]

It should, yea. Let me double check

[outer crane]

After defeating Damien

[smoky fjord]

Was a new list of changes proposed yet?

[narrow scroll]

Does the 30min dark shock buff actually affect anything? Since teleport doesn't do dmg and there is no need to telecast.

[unborn vale]

I am still not sure

I have done a few tests with dark shock on and off in immortal dungeon and not really any difference

But it’s meant to weaken the enemy when it had the dark brand from teleport or v2

[narrow scroll]

Was also kinda wondering if it did anything to v2 brand

[dawn python]

One way to test is only using v2 in immortal guild dungeon. Once with ds nodes once without. If it did anything there should be a dmg difference.

[narrow scroll]

Not even about nodes, but the buff itself

[unborn vale]

Good idea I’ll do the v2 test in a second

[unborn vale]

V2 only immortal dungeon:
Dark shock on: 13.8m
Dark shock off: 12.1m (but some of the orbs missed at the start)

So probably 13m vs 13.8m

[narrow scroll]

is this with nodes on and off?

[narrow scroll]

Was talking about this

Is it just useless now?

Having the buff itself on, not the nodes

[unborn vale]

Yea i mean this too

I’ve tried the buff on/off in immortal dungeon too and it was also very similar damage

I am not sure if it does anything

But i have the boost node maxed just in case 🤣

[narrow scroll]

Yeah, tho the boost node works regardless of the buff being on or not haha

[unborn vale]

Confused about this skill though - it’s not clear is it

[narrow scroll]

Been bothering me for a while now

[dawn python]

Glad to see at least ds nodes does something.

At least there is no cap to this extra dmg. Which means if we can hit with more attacks/lines, ds dmg will increase as well.

[outer crane]

You still need dark shock if you’re not Lv200 and doesn’t have V2 yet

Need this skill to put debuff to monsters (bosses)

Last month’s update increased dark shock debuff’s damage
So you can feel buffed to BM

[lost epoch]

Anyone got the bug in v1 skill (aura scythe) which is after you die and revive, the skill got completely deactivated even tho the duration is still not over?

[rancid estuary]

it’s not a bug, u need buff freezers

[unborn vale]

Yea that’s normal

Buff freezes for the win

[lost epoch]

Aaah no wonder 😭. Ty guys

I prob ran out of mines and didn’t notice

[unborn vale]

Super annoying when you dont have any and die right after casting it

[unborn vale]

Hey @outer crane

Can you do a Youtube for Culvert?

[outer crane]

I have one

[outer crane]

Isn’t it this one?

[dawn python]

Is there some kind of video tutorial on how to solo nmag on a weaker bam? My issue is not understanding bam’s counters to mag’s various attacks so I’m just brute forcing it. But clearly not a good strategy. I have just north of 110k hp. Appreciate any help on this. Now if you are a super bam, please undergear for the example so I can see what tactics I should employ. It won’t help me and other lesser geared bam if the fight is over in 30s. Thanks in advance

[compact steeple]

Understand the attack pattern and learn how to dodge first

Once u can survive 1-2 minutes without taking any hits from Magnus, you’re good to go

U can’t brute force for Magnus, sadly

U can watch gameplay of any class and understand a bit, but keep in mind that the attack pattern for hard mode is slightly different than normal mode

[dawn python]

That’s the part I’m having trouble with. Yea if I can see a vid of a bam just surviving nmag for 2-3 minutes. Basically all the attack patterns. Then I should be good. But right now I’m just confused on what to do against it

[compact steeple]

I think the two hardest attacks to deal with are Spin and Dash

For Spin, u have to teleport away right when he lifts his blade up.

Same goes to dash, but teleport or move across him instead

One more thing is to always keep Magnus at the center of the map, cuz the green gas spawning in the sides will “stun” you.

Basically the game is nearly the same as the other Mage classes

[dire holly]

I could’ve sworn I sent an hmag guide here before

From Yeow himself

https://youtu.be/DD_B-iUZ_Tc

Literally the best way I learned was from watching this

After that it’s just practice

Guess I didn’t send this before here, but please watch this and learn the pattern

Keeping magnus in center is important

[unborn vale]

Sorry i missed it!

[unborn vale]

After i posted in the first place 🤣

[smoky fjord]

The problem is the team.you run with specific the person who aggro doesn't know the pattern

[unborn vale]

Agree this is most important for multi run

[unborn vale]

First few attempts at Hard Mag

Hopefully soon

[sharp sable]

So close!

[dire holly]

[rancid estuary]

woah no PE’s on pets ?!

[unborn vale]

I like to manual the PE

The spin kept catching me so i need more practice

[quick harbor]

https://youtu.be/nVidgczrA9k

You can skip to 21:36 to see the V3 skill alongside other skills as part of its combinational burst

[unborn vale]

👀👀👀

Nice i’ll look!

Anyone have any videos of them solo’ing Hard Magnus ?

[outer crane]

I have

https://youtu.be/0VWZOWJ4FEw

But it’s been a while

[unborn vale]

Thank you bro i keep getting close but not quite win yet

[unborn vale]

I need to use the battle burst more

[sharp sable]

Battle burst is great for dodging dash

Sometimes dodging dash with teleport is kinda bugged

But battle burst always works

[dire holly]

I always walk during dash

Sometimes the game lag though, so you gotta walk behind mag ahead of time

[unborn vale]

Yea i find this, like a small delay in teleport and dash still hits you

[rigid frost]

Hiiii

[dire holly]

Grats!

[unborn vale]

gratz!!

[unborn vale]

When not using aura scythe, do you all use weakening aura? Rather than boss atk aura?

[dire holly]

In bossing?

[unborn vale]

Yea sorry

Farming i use haste aura most is the time

[dire holly]

[unborn vale]

But bossing i never know. I have the hyper stats in both weak/dark aura

[dire holly]

Bossing = always weakening

[unborn vale]

Cool yea that’s what i use now

[dire holly]

Farming I use v1, but that's just because it's high level and can one shot

Not sure if the extra speed during the down time of v1 is worth it

[unborn vale]

Yea i rarely use it, usually v1

[dire holly]

But it shouldn't be a problem if auras were equippable with v1

[unborn vale]

We can hope 🤣

[dire holly]

[rigid frost]

I use dark aura for bossing hehe

Am I the only one? Lol

[unborn vale]

If you you have the hyper points in both weaken and dark aura i think weakening means more dps

[sharp sable]

Ya unless there's an NL and merc and other dmg reduction debuffers in your party, weakening will almost always be better

[outer crane]

Yes weakening aura is better than black aura in Bossing.

But you still need to put hyper stats on dark aura because V1 can use all the auras at the same time.

[outer crane]

Hi everyone, if you like to see any topic of Battle mage, please tell me.

I mean videos

[unborn vale]

If you are able to make a ‘new’ solo Magnus video that would be cool

[rigid frost]

Oh thank you!

[rigid frost]

I wanna see mu lung floor 44-45 please!! 😜

[outer crane]

I think this is possible 👀👀

[outer crane]

Hmmm….I’m still working on it😝

[compact steeple]

Triple zero Hmag challenge

[outer crane]

https://youtu.be/Ga6d7djD8xM

[rancid estuary]

[compact steeple]

[unborn vale]

Man you are beast

Very good

Thanks for this i will use your strategy to move magnus around

[unborn vale]

Oh why they only buff the skill I don’t use for bossing 🤣🤣🤣

Glad they finally made condemnation a buff skill …

[unborn vale]

Hey @outer crane - do you use Dark Genesis in Bossing?

[outer crane]

Yes

[unborn vale]

Is it not too slow / low dps?

[outer crane]

Not that slow😂😂

[dire holly]

Dark genesis changes were to its passive ability so it’s always on (never need to cast the ability or have it equipped in most content except for maybe Lotus for bots)

No need to cast it unless it’s needed

So the changes are great

Good because I don’t have to go shield hypers lol

[lost epoch]

Also used dark genesis for bossing

[worthy obsidian]

congrats battle mages i love you all

[dire holly]

[unborn vale]

Ah i see i cant remember the last changes

This change good for ht at least 🤣

[dire holly]

Yea

Forward distance change on fb, I’m not sure if that’s added range

Or if ab range on fb is improved

[unborn vale]

Look forward to see this

I’m most happy about condemnation

A small win

[dire holly]

Condemnation is great

Dg is pretty big too

Shield improvements are welcome

[unborn vale]

Yes all round good really

I did a guild dummy test today and will try tomorrow as a compare

See how these Hyper and IED changes help

[dire holly]

Ied only helped v2

It’s not something that I can cap yet so it’s not as important to me

[unborn vale]

Me too i don’t think i will notice that

Stealth buff maybe 😍

[dire holly]

Would’ve been nice to have ied on v1, but that’s probably too strong

[dire holly]

[unborn vale]

Yea ied on v1 plus the boost node

[dire holly]

Dg change is really, really good though

[unborn vale]

Glad bam got some attention

[dire holly]

Last 2 rebalances for BaM have been pretty good dps-wise

Support skills like blue aura and draining aura could still use some work

But I’m not complaining

[unborn vale]

Yea agreed

Auras will probably be changed in small rebalance

If ever

[dire holly]

Hard to say

[unborn vale]

The draining aura would be nice to buff a bit

[dire holly]

I’ll definitely report any suggestions made; if we agree with it as a group that is

Yea.. lower reactivation time on both auras would be nice

[unborn vale]

Exactly all we need!

[smoky fjord]

That reaper buff was needed

Qol change

I haven't played bam since the last rebalance 😅

[outer crane]

In fact, Ied was already on V1 you guys

[dire holly]

Where do you see that at?

[outer crane]

Union aura buff not only all the auras but finishing blow as well

And the notes for finishing blow provide 15% Ied when you get to lv40

[dire holly]

Ah that's what you mean

[outer crane]

Which means Union aura can take this effect as well

[dire holly]

Right

More would be nice still

[outer crane]

Lol

[dawn python]

My eos performance improved a bit with the new fb range. 7.5k to 7.8k. I’m wondering if we can ditch v2 now in eos. Or v2 still improves kill rate. I will test it out tomorrow

[dire holly]

Ditching v2 is a no go

I am curious about the results though

[dawn python]

Will report back tomorrow then.

At least run 30mins. If it’s lacking. I will change back hehe. I need all the xp I can get. 219 now. One more til af170

[dire holly]

513m —> 588m not bad

Might be able to push 600

[unborn vale]

Love that nice!

[outer crane]

Lotus

Finally become the champion

[unborn vale]

Nice one!!

[outer crane]

Thank you

I’ll make a video later

[worthy obsidian]

WTF

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[sharp sable]

Great improvements

[dawn python]

Ok after 20mins eos it was looking very bad without v2. It normalized to just 6.6k kill per hr without v2. So there you have it. Despite being suboptimal in placement with ab, v2 still helps with kills. Perhaps we can argue for ab, it auto places all four alters down as default action?

Also I think we can all agree if nexon change aura scythe to an active skill instead of a buff (it’s registrable to a pet) and make it ab usable that will already solve one of our biggest complaints. Have no aura while v1 is down.

[dire holly]

My only assumption for the low kill rate without v2 is because it can be placed on different platforms and remain on the field for 30 seconds

We can only be in some many places at one time

One thing I would like, however, is for the cast time to be reduced

[dawn python]

Yes. If it can be cast like a buff. That would be most helpful. Putting those down without missing a beat. Since we are probably the worst mobbing mage out there, such a change shouldn’t be seen as op.

[dire holly]

I don't think that change would be possible

Simply reducing the cast time should be more than enough

It is a skill that's meant for manual play anyways

[dawn python]

Ok sir, wish you luck to push for the biggest casting time reduction possible. That would be nice 👍

[dire holly]

I'll do my best

[unborn vale]

Yes to both casting time and aura scythe being made an active skill, so we can leave another aura on the pets - feel like that solves that issue?

[sharp sable]

Wow, it's almost like we were right about telling you to use v2 in AB half a year ago

I would not welcome that change. The reason why v2 is so good is because it can hit multiple platforms diagonally/vertically/horizontally. Your suggestion would only allow it to hit horizontally at a fixed distance. Restore's suggestion on reducing cast time is much much better

Imagine it just casts all four totems in a tiny platform in the corner of the map half the time no thanks

[dire holly]

Thank you retired bam pro for your input

Was exactly what I was thinking

[dawn python]

Can’t argue with facts. Despite v2 been suboptimal in ab altar placement. Like mechanic’s three little robot skill. It’s just a net plus to kill rate. But I would like to see it improved still. Clearly faster casting time will be a step in the right direction. Annoys me when I see two placed next to each other. Maybe an improvement will be limit how close two altars can be placed next to each other like right now there is a maximum distance between altar. Add a minimum distance to altar placement as well will be quite helpful I think.

[spark herald]

What do you guys put for hyper passives?

[unborn vale]

I have done all the damage hypers with Dark and Weakening auras

I left out shield and blue aura hypers

Depends if you want to support or do dps as your goal

[spark herald]

Generally do you use weakening or dark aura?

I feel like having party shield CD cutter is pretty useful?

[unborn vale]

Weakening aura for any bossing whenever the v1 isn’t on

However i rarely use the shield so that’s just my preference 🤣

[unborn vale]

I did it finally

[dawn python]

Awesome job. What is the thing that’s on 39s cool down?

[sharp sable]

Bam v3

[unborn vale]

It’s the Erda Nova skill

So i could stun

10s stun more after the latest update

[crimson bolt]

good job!!

[rigid frost]

10s shield + 10s stun .. might try this in floor 44! Thanks for the idea!

[unborn vale]

Do it! I hadn’t thought about the stun until last week either

[smoky fjord]

Time the stun with a stop watch in single player mode and multiplayer and tell me if it last ten seconds in each

[unborn vale]

@outer crane Gz on chaos cape

[outer crane]

Yeah~

Last one to go

[upbeat temple]

Hey I'm new to BaM can someone share their skill wheel for AB and Boss and thier hyperskill allocation?

Thank you!

[dire holly]

Welcome! I hope you are enjoying the class so far.

@upbeat temple May I ask what level you are?

[unborn vale]

Welcome to the dark side

[unborn vale]

@upbeat temple depending on your level, but this is mine for 200+ for farming and party bossing
Solo bossing I swap out the infantry skill (top right) with combat orders or speed infusion

Top right is a preset of Dark Genesis and Resistance Infantry

[upbeat temple]

Thanks a lot! I’ll try it out

[unborn vale]

@dire holly

What soul do you have on your weapon?

[dire holly]

Crit rate

Not so lucky with mdc yet

[worthy obsidian]

damn bro i didn't know it was that bad

[unborn vale]

Ouxh

Im trying to figure out why i dont hit cap with full buffs (13.4m cap) in some bosses

[dire holly]

Gimme some mesos

[dire holly]

Could be many reasons

Boost nodes not max

Gear

[worthy obsidian]

what makes you think i have mesos

[dire holly]

If you’re using v1, it’s probably because it’s low level

[worthy obsidian]

sell ur absolab attempts

[dire holly]

I don’t get invited to Lotus

[unborn vale]

This my stats now with lv60 boost nodes and lv17 v1

[dire holly]

What absolab attempt is there?

[unborn vale]

Need more matk which i need to work on some flames

[worthy obsidian]

damn ur guild must be full of dickheads

[dire holly]

It is what it is. My stats are low anyways

Mainly mdc

[dire holly]

More matk would help, but your stats don’t look too bad

Is that fully buffed by the way?

Your mdmg is surprisingly high

[unborn vale]

No this is unbuff stats

Maybe v1 is on

[dire holly]

Stats are quite good

Sorry for the late reply

I think the biggest area of improvement for you would probably be matk

Flames are a big contributor to matk

[sharp sable]

wot ur nodes like @unborn vale

and ya like restore said will be hard to cap if you're using aura scythe lv 1-10

my stats are pretty similar to yours

oh i just read max nodes and lv 17 v1 holy shite lol

how's your legion/link skills?

once u hit 215 you'll get a good amount more of matk from symbols

[dire holly]

My legion bad

[unborn vale]

Oh yea i forget this! My flames are average I’m trying to work on those to get a few more double lines etc

[sharp sable]

O yea defs get double lines on everything

[unborn vale]

Do you have much for v2?

I mean i only have it level 4

My legion is average i think 🤣

Only 2944

[sharp sable]

Ouuu yea gotta get that up a bit

Nah I haven't leveled my v2

V1 first but gonna wait for nexon patch that will let us pull our own skill nodes

If it ever happens

[dire holly]

I’m probably gonna skip v2 and lvl v3 when it comes out

But I think v2 will have more lines overall

[unborn vale]

V3 looks cool i hope it will be good!

Possible iframe for the summon?

[flint rose]

Anyone has an inherit staff for sale? CD/BA emblem 🙂 A2Luna

[outer crane]

I’ve collected 7 chaos in three months

😍

[dire holly]

Please do not advertise trades (that you are looking for, or selling any item) in the msm discord server

This is your unofficial warning

[flint rose]

Oh I thought that only applied to real money trading

[dire holly]

Others have used this server as a means to ask or post what they want to sell or what they want to buy. This is not a trade server

[unborn vale]

Bro omg thats a nice equip page

Gz

@outer crane what is the ‘set effect’ of the chaos items?

[outer crane]

I use 3+3 and each 3 gives 2000hp
And the pink one gives 6% critical hit,
the blue one gives 200 atk 5000 defend

[quick harbor]

The outfit is crafted from top/bottom?

[outer crane]

Yes from top

Luckily I crafted in one shot

https://youtube.com/shorts/SXH-k0e6mdw?feature=share

[spark herald]

Why did you choose those sets? Any special consideration for set effects?

[outer crane]

Hmm…it’s because each equipment provides useful abilities such as critical damage and critical atk

You can think set effects as bonus abilities

[sharp sable]

Holy shit! Lmao

You think crit atk is that valuable? 😮

Oh I guess cause you don't use necro you gotta stack on crit atk/crit rate makes sense

Do you think crit atk adds damage too? Always wondered. Would be great for dark shock since it's such low skill dmg

[unborn vale]

The unanswered question of msm 🤣

Keeping the BaM flag flying

[outer crane]

Yes you got it😂😂

[outer crane]

I’m not really sure but I need critical hit

[spark herald]

I see.. set effects are seen as bonus instead cause I thought 2500 mgatk is good

[outer crane]

I did it

[unborn vale]

Nice!!

[outer crane]

Yeah so happy

But I think it was just lucky😂😂

I’ll make the film this week

[dire holly]

[unborn vale]

Really good bro

Cygnus must have been hard?

*44

[outer crane]

So difficult to BaM

[rigid frost]

Congrats! Can’t wait to see!

[outer crane]

https://youtu.be/8yesITAguIU

[unborn vale]

I watched it, super nice dude

[smoky fjord]

So the scythe's hit count is higher than the regular attack

[lost epoch]

Yep higher by 1 iirc

[outer crane]

Thank you

[sharp sable]

Anyone count their BaM battle analysis lines yet?

[jagged spoke]

https://m.gamer.com.tw/forum/C.php?bsn=29461&snA=21312&bpage=1&ltype=

Someone is doing a open thread for data collection

[outer crane]

Yeah

I did 3 minutes test

13,309 hits in three mins

[sharp sable]

Honestly not bad at all

[outer crane]

Go try it 😂

[unborn vale]

I cant understand the thread but i was about 4400 lines with aura scythe 1min

With infantry it is about 4750-4800

So yea similar to 545Z’s number if x3

Mine will drop a bit as v1 only lvl16

[jagged spoke]

Just gotta scroll through each post of diff class haha

[sharp sable]

Remember when ppl doubted u putting nodes on dark genesis @dire holly

We finally have proof

Also wait why'd u cast dark genesis 5 times @outer crane isnt FB faster?

And damn sweeping staff kinda sucks I thought it'd be higher up there

[dire holly]

Yes, yes of course I am

I told y’all sweeping staff needs 72 lines

Cuz it’s not worth using over fb if you capping it

[sharp sable]

#makesweepingstaffgreatagain

[dire holly]

#makeBaMgreatforthefirsttimesinceitwasnevergreattobeginwith

[sharp sable]

LOOOOL

[dire holly]

[sharp sable]

Give them the ilm treatment

[dire holly]

What was that again?

[sharp sable]

Bro haven't u seen

Ilms burst is crazy now with their hyper rework

[dire holly]

Cl nerf?

Oh

[sharp sable]

Ohhh no they op now

[dire holly]

Nope I haven’t seen

[sharp sable]

In 1-minute content

[dire holly]

Too bad late game bosses don’t run with 1 minute

[sharp sable]

Hahaha ya

Always see them on podium in magnus tho

[dire holly]

I think in a 3 minute run, bam isn’t last in terms of lines

They’re up there

[sharp sable]

Yeah I was surprised!!

[dire holly]

Yea

It’s just hard to cap

[sharp sable]

Poor BW's

Yea

[dire holly]

Like I’m no where close to 545Z

BW rework eventually

Just a waiting game

They’re still one of the best mage farmers

[sharp sable]

I don't think many bams are

[dire holly]

Here let me show you

Actually nvm

Can’t compare because the test settings are different

[sharp sable]

Also condemnation only 800 lines?!

Sheeeesh

Anyways yeah hard to cap cause 20% of bams lines are 115% and 10% are like 65% lmao

[dire holly]

Yea condemnation fails because of cast time and soul buildup

[sharp sable]

BWs lines are probably more distributed evenly

[dire holly]

Hmm

[sharp sable]

They make it faster in pcms rework right?

[dire holly]

Probably yea

From the looks of it, they made it quicker after 6th job lol

[sharp sable]

Oh cool only have to wait two years

[dire holly]

Well I’m not sure what it’s like before then

That’s a big if