Phantom

[keen lotus]

Was just a joke

Sarcasm through text still a bit challenging tho

[subtle seal]

wait is this cd? if ba 3/7prob not worth

[rugged cove]

BA unfortunately haha

[subtle seal]

rip

can consider looking around more and be patient

[rugged cove]

pretty hard to get tradeable mythics

yea

been trying to fuse some myself but no luck yet

[subtle seal]

marathon game you got this, can also consider using 8% emblem scrolls from event as well

[autumn ice]

Hi all, can phantom survive SF 144 with max uniques only?

[valid raven]

pretty sure they can, just make sure to steal defensive skills also

[shrewd warren]

Hello all phantom master, newbie here. Do you have any preset setting advice for AB and boss for pre 200? Much appreciate your kind advice 😃

[keen lotus]

Best is probably just mille - tempest - rose carte finale

For both AB and boss

[crystal jewel]

CL better for AB no?

[keen lotus]

Pre 200?

It's eh

No FD boost from boost nodes

[crystal jewel]

so CL more effective post 200 then?

i’ve been using CL cause i find that i move around more with it compared to mille

[keen lotus]

I use CL post 200 ye but I use it cuz I oneshot with it

[crystal jewel]

oh fair. i actually 2-3 hit in sf165 rn with CL so let me try a session with mille

[autumn ice]

What's the minimum gear for phantom to survive SF 144 without pets

[low crow]

Can I get. Skill wheel build help for AB and bossing please for a new level 200 phantom

[bold bolt]

Probably mille, tempest, and rose carte for both AB & boss pre-200 but get a 2nd opinion

[low crow]

Yeah I’m talking post 200 please

@bold bolt

[bold bolt]

Mille. Tempest. V3 with teleport/dash ticked. V4 with teleport ticked. V2

No rose or V1 but get a 2nd opinion

For AB^^^

For bossing. I use mille tempest rose and all V skills.

Rope lift is pretty important to craft and have on your vmatrix for AB. Not for boss

[drifting frigate]

I'm rocking these presets.

1. Mid damage burst
2. Main burst skills
3. Invulnerable for bossing
4. Mobility skills

This my farming wheel.

Just simple mobility skill and mid damage burst for mobbing.

I do not use main burst for mobbing cause they take a long time to set up and the mobs just get 1 shot from normal skills anyway.

Mobility skills I use stationary phantom mark (V3) and moving V4 skill for both mobbing and bossing.

These are my bossing ones. I mainly just do Arkmag daily and lotus CRA weekly. Nothing too crazy.

[low crow]

Thanks @drifting frigate

[drifting frigate]

No problem

[visual blade]

Hello, can you tell me what I can steal with the Phantom when you have necro please (I just bought a necro)

[drifting frigate]

It'll probably look something like this,

1st job: Magic guard for mobbing, dark sight for bossing.
2nd job: Meditation for everything except for times it doesn't auto cast. Then you can change to monkey magic. Hyper body only if you keep dying.

3rd job:
Cursebound endurance (pathfinder) if you keep dying.
Holy symbol (bishop) if you keep finding yourself solo ab-ing (useful for when you overnight ab often).
Combat Orders (paladin) for generic party mobbing/bossing.
Magic Shell (bishop) for Arkarium bossing.

4th job:
Sharp eyes if you keep dying
Kunai skill/ Chain Lightning for fast mobbing
Guardian (paladin) for reviving 1 member during bossing.

Hyper:
Dark Knight hyper if you keep dying
Inferno Aura (Fire Poison) for fast mobbing.
Paladin Sacrosanct for Arkarium/Lotus++ bossing

[visual blade]

I use this powers DPS mode

[drifting frigate]

For mobbing? Are you one shotting mobs?

With your current build.

[visual blade]

What are you talking about?

?

[drifting frigate]

Does the mobs get killed in 1 hit?

[visual blade]

Yeah

[drifting frigate]

If it gets killed in 1 hit you can consider switching out the green bleed dart to the fire poison inferno aura (5th job) to maximise target count.

Also maybe switch cross surge to the combat order (3rd job paladin) to maximise your team's damage output. Since 6x15% dmg+ is better than your 1 person self buff OR a mobbing skill like chain lightning/kunai skill to maximise target count.

The science behind 5th job skill is:
If you keep dying: Dark knight hyper, Dark Thirst
If your crit rate is below 70%: Yellow Bullseye shot
If your crit rate is above 70% but can't 1 shot mobs: Green bleed dart
If you can 1 shot mobs: Fire poison hyper, inferno aura.

For second and third job skill party buff it is usually:
2nd job Meditation
3rd job Combat order

Since they give dmg% and not ATK%, so it is better than monkey magic

And the 4th job is a flex between monkey magic party buff (if you can't 1 shot and rely on team DPS) and Chain Lightning/Kunai for more target mobbing (if you can 1 shot mobs).

[visual blade]

Oh thanks bro

[inner trout]

hi im level 126 whats the best skills to steal for mobbing / whats the best rotation?

[weary crown]

@inner trout

[opal fox]

phantom is better that Paladin ?

[rugged cove]

Thanks @subtle seal and everyone else who gave me tips for Lotus

Finally I managed to beat Lotus

[crystal jewel]

congrats! i assume this is single?

[rugged cove]

Yep

Haha soloing Multi is a far far dream

[crystal jewel]

would you say your cp is the minimum required to solo single lotus?

[keen lotus]

CP is a bad indicator

You can do it with less probably

[rugged cove]

Yea don't think CP means anything

[subtle seal]

gzgz wellplayed!

time to find a team so you can earn 140 coins each week

[rugged cove]

Do you think getting Chaos piece or Selling Absolab crystal is better with the coins?

or I should just hold since I am not really sure atm

[subtle seal]

prob hold on to it first till you figure out which route you wanna go and what rips you the most benefits

[severe vessel]

What’s best skills as phantom for leveling ?

[weary crown]

@severe vessel 4th job kunai/ chain lighting

[opal fox]

what hyper skills lvl ups ?

[spiral pendant]

Anyone can help with this. What another important nodes ? And bottom 3 more unlock slot what to use ?

[drifting frigate]

Need to use 5 slots for tri nodes to max 7 skills + 1 any skill (ideally the dash)

[drifting frigate]

The remaining 4 skills are memory 432 and rose

[spiral pendant]

Owh ic.. thanks alot

[drifting frigate]

Also max the yellow skill first, it's your main burst skill (in your 4th slot).

[spiral pendant]

Alright.👌🏻

[humble jewel]

What skill node should I pour exp nodes into after finishing up with the core nodes

[stray trail]

Will skill

[humble jewel]

I’m definitely not gonna clear Will until future rebalancing

But I’ll just save them then

[stray trail]

Well you don’t have to clear will just buy the nodestone off trade station itlll give you more lines more dps contribution more dmg for other bosses 😅

[keen lotus]

Still expensive in EU

But ye save em for when prices drop

[little lagoon]

Bossing nodes for now. Any advise?

Waiting for 3rd perfect trio

[scenic bough]

You don’t really need so many perfect trios tbh

[little lagoon]

Any recommendations to swap anything out? Haha..

[scenic bough]

You kinda only need tempest miles and Blanc

[little lagoon]

Yes, I'm waiting for the second node from the left to include tempest and should have the 3 you mentioned

After that, I'll need to swap out the 1st node from the left. But idk which skill nodes should I use

[crystal jewel]

just got to 200, any tips on what trios to aim for? i’m of course thinking of mille, IM4, tempest, rose carte

[bold bolt]

Mille, tempest, and Blanc/Carte Noir

[crystal jewel]

i don’t need IM4/3? and what’s the difference between blanc/carte noir?

[bold bolt]

You find another trio with IM3/IM4/Rose

Blanc/Carte Noir is 1 thing

[crystal jewel]

gotchu

[bold bolt]

👍

[crystal jewel]

oh right thought you’re referencing rose and blanc my bad

thanks!

[bold bolt]

👍

[lapis cypress]

hows phantom without any buff pets as meso alt

[vital cedar]

Is there any routine in skill use for max dmg?

[old blade]

how to increase crit rate? i just started playing again and im only at like 25%

[viral drift]

Necro wep has fair trade giving 100% crit rate so I wouldn't put all your resources into it

[little lagoon]

Any recommendations on Which v skill to upgrade after V1 maxed?

Or is upgrading decent skill a good choice as well?

[rugged cove]

Any tips for Solo NDamien? I can only kill Phase 1 after 3 minutes which I think tells me I don't hjave enough DPM

[old blade]

what are the best pots for our eqp?

[vital cedar]

Gratz on you’re necro 🔥

[rugged cove]

Haha thanks, finally!

[scenic bough]

Hi guys does anyone have an issue where if you press shell the leap immediately after the leap does not take effect but goes on CD? Not sure if it’s an animation cancelation thing or if I press buttons too quickly and it can’t register

[keen lotus]

Not an issue for me no

[worn tide]

Need help on the perfect trio, help🙏🏼

[rugged cove]

check pinned message

[fierce path]

Anyone can help with what are the right V skills perfect trio nodes to aim for? I looked at pinned messages but i dont see them thank you 🙏

[fierce path]

and what sort of skills should i be putting into my v matrix?

[stray trail]

Check pinned messages

[keen lotus]

Since my pinned messages on mobile also don't work:

Ideal boost nodes (allows you to use skills like chain lightning for mobbing):
Mille
Tempest
Carte blanc/noir
Rose carte finale
Impeccable memory 3
Impeccable memory 4

Acceptable boost nodes (minimal DPS loss in bossing, just worse for mobbing):
Mille
Tempest
Carte blanc/noir

[keen lotus]

For actual skills the first thing you want to craft is rope lift since this makes a huge difference for mobbing and picking up items, after that it's as follows:

1 Luck of the draw
2 Rift Break
3 Phantom's Mark
4 Ace in the Hole

You can equip the shared skills as you open them, especially Freud's wisdom is good to have at level 1, just use copies to level it if you get them but don't focus on it

[bold bolt]

Also people say V1, V2, V3, V4

V1 - luck of the draw (lotd)
V2 - ace in the hole (aith)
V3 - Phantoms Mark (pm)
V4 - Rift Break

^ this confused me jn the beginning

[fierce path]

so i want to craft tri nodes which contains 3 out of 6?
Mille
Tempest
Carte blanc/noir
Rose carte finale
Impeccable memory 3
Impeccable memory 4

[fierce path]

what about other skills such as venom burst/last resort? do i trash them?

[fierce path]

Is Mille, carte blanc/noir, rose carte considered perfect? i see u listed it in both the ideal nodes and acceptable nodes

[bold bolt]

ideally you want 2 trios with a mix of
mille
tempest
carte blanc/noir

And another 2 trios with a mix of
im3
im4
rose

[bold bolt]

no don't trash, level them up

[fierce path]

thank you 🙏

[fierce path]

wait so if I get mille, tempest and IM3 in one boost node thats considered not perfect?

[bold bolt]

It’s kind of like a matter of available slots

[fierce path]

whats that mean

[bold bolt]

I guess if you’re p2w on the fast track then it won’t matter

[bold bolt]

You have limited node slots

You have 4 vskills

There’s buffs too

[fierce path]

This is what I have atm

[bold bolt]

Yeah in that situation you want 2 trio nodes

Which would give you level 60 which is max for Mille tempest and blanc

[fierce path]

hm but i dont have perfect trios correct?

[bold bolt]

If you have 4 trips with mix and match of the 6 skills then it takes up a lot of room

If you remove one, you won’t have the level 60 for your main skills which is tempest and Mille

Plus that blanc boost

[fierce path]

I think i understand, thank you

[bold bolt]

I don’t see any trios in that image

IM3 and im4 works for stolen skills and not passive stolens

[bold bolt]

But keep leveling up the whatever you have and when you do get trio you can feed it to it and it’ll become the same level

[fierce path]

so i level up a non perfect boost node, and when i get a perfect one, i feed it to the trio

[bold bolt]

Yeah

[fierce path]

alright tysm

[bold bolt]

So if you have a non perfect level 19. And you get a perfect trio

And feed it

[fierce path]

have a feeling finding a perfect one is gonna take a long time

🤣

[bold bolt]

It’ll turn level 19

You can craft the Mille tempest or blanc

[fierce path]

are there weekly free ways of getting nodestone other than farming/trade station?

[bold bolt]

And it’ll give you a trio

[bold bolt]

The miyo thing rewards nodes at chapter 9

Event shop has nodes to buy

Nodes are 8m which is really low compared to the 20m it used to be not too long ago

If you have mpet, you get more nodes

Path of proof has node rewards

[fierce path]

its 5 m on a2s but im so poor unless i spend money haha

im not sure how many mesos i need to spend before i get 4 perfect trios

[bold bolt]

Its fine. I took forever to find mine as a f2p

[fierce path]

and tbh my account isnt really optimized for farming mesos .. at all

[bold bolt]

Just okay and you’ll get it someday

I don’t even know what optimize is

I just play

Exp

Higher AF map = little better for nodes

[fierce path]

im making like 5-10 m mesos per day 🤣

[bold bolt]

Use Mille and tempest only on your skill wheel

And rope lift

Make sure you’re one shotting

[fierce path]

Mille Aiguilles right?

ill change it later

[bold bolt]

What?

[fierce path]

the skill

the scissors

[bold bolt]

What?

[fierce path]

im saying mile refers to this skill correct

or am i wrong

[bold bolt]

Oh yeah

The main skill for us

[fierce path]

is there an estimate on how many B you spent

[bold bolt]

I never bought nodes

I found it or events

[fierce path]

ohh

wow

[bold bolt]

So you can imagine how long that took

[fierce path]

well i guess im on the same track 🤣

[bold bolt]

My vskill still not maxed

Nexon making it easier with node rewards and exp nodes

[fierce path]

can i feed my boost nodes directly with junk boost nodes? or do i need to dismantle them first

[bold bolt]

You mean enhance?

[fierce path]

feed = enhance yea

[bold bolt]

Only extract level 25 nodes

To maximize share gain from extraction

[fierce path]

whoops

[bold bolt]

Unless it’s those nodes that expire

[fierce path]

thank you 🙏

[keen lotus]

And skill nodes but that's not really relevant until way way later

[rough plume]

Any recommended alts to have besides hayato (phy dmg) and exp giving classes under link sharing

[bold bolt]

Kaiser for HP

There are other phy dmg linked skills too. Check #bot-commands for the list of link skills

Final dmg phy dmg

[stuck current]

I’d like to ask which skills should I steal and where can I find them

[cursive scaffold]

If im using wonder silver x2 what pet buffs should i prioritise?

[rough plume]

Chaos Hilla, how does phantom reflect or stun? Is there a set of skill to press when nearby hilla? Super confused

[rugged cove]

don't understand your question

Phantom doesn't have a "stun" ability or bind

except for the generic Erda skill

[cursive scaffold]

Like stealing reflection?

[rough plume]

Sorry what I mean is during Hilla's purple symbol damage reflect what do we phantoms need to be doing ? Sorry still learning the mechanisms

[rugged cove]

Use this skill to steal the Damage Reflect

I forgot the name for now lol

cant check

[rough plume]

Thank you so much 🙏🙏

[bold bolt]

Rose carte, luck of the draw, ace in the hole, and rift break goes through damage reflect

[bold bolt]

^You use this to get to the map where you skill steals

^Once you're in the map, you use this to steal skills

^this is what my stolen skill page looks like

[crystal jewel]

what skills are on your 4th and hyper?

you don’t use CL for training?

[bold bolt]

4th is cross bones (buccaneer)

hyper is dark thirst (I think DK? I forgot)

[bold bolt]

I don't use CL for training. I don't have mpet to vacuum the loot and i don't 1 shot the AF380 monsters with CL. Plus I don't have the im4/im3/rose trios yet

IIRC CL is only efficient (?) if you can 1 shot the monsters

[crystal jewel]

i see, i’ve been using CL all the way to train even tho i 2-3shot with it at sf184

feels like if i use mille to train i don’t move around as much? maybe im wrong

[bold bolt]

mille makes you walk around more (assuming you're 1 or 2 shotting)

tempest same thing

I don't use rose. there is some delay

[crystal jewel]

i guess rope lift and rift break helps tho

[bold bolt]

You're 200+ at SF184?

[crystal jewel]

yea, 207. only AF140 so exp and mesos around AF90 aren’t great

[bold bolt]

But not enough for SF194?

[crystal jewel]

nope lol. with non exp gear i’m 193..

[bold bolt]

I see

[crystal jewel]

maybe i’ll give mille training a try tho, thx!

[fierce path]

This is a perfect trio correct?

Why can’t I enhance it with other nodes? I don’t see the option to use temp nodes + experience nodes to enhance my perfect trio

[keen lotus]

Yes

[keen lotus]

You can only enhance it using other boost nodes where the first skill on the boost node is the same

So like it shows there, you can only use those boost nodes

[fierce path]

how do i use my other nodes then? or what about the experience nodes how do i use those

[keen lotus]

Experience nodes you should be able to but idk if you have them

You do have to open experience nodes first to use them for enhancing

[fierce path]

bro 💀

mb

[keen lotus]

[keen lotus]

You can extract the boost nodes you won't use, or choose 1 to level to 25 for double the shards but it'll take a while before you can use them

[fierce path]

what about the temporary nodes i just extract them? thank you so much for your help 🙏

[keen lotus]

Ye just extract those

[crystal jewel]

is there a priority on which vskills to max first?

was thinking rift break > ace > ?

[rugged cove]

V4>V1>V3>V2

i just dont find ace in the hole doing any damage

[crystal jewel]

got it thanks!

[stray trail]

V1,V4,V2,V3
Actually^^

Ace in the hole is one of your more consistent dmg

Lucid^

Looking at all my best v2 is either right below or right above v4 and v3 is always on the lower end of the 4 vskills so imo v1 and then v4/2 and v3 last

[rugged cove]

V1 is nice if the boss doesnt move and stays in one place

V4 is more consistent imo which is why i max V4 first

haha

its very boss dependant

[crystal jewel]

ah interesting thanks for sharing

i guess either way Ace and PM is lower priority

i can focus on maxing V1 and V4 first

[shadow widget]

hi i’m still new with phantom and i just know about the steal ability

so what are the best ability i need to steal?

[rugged cove]

You probably have the toggle on, which is only used for farming since it can auto target and clear whole map but it has low lines.

Without the toggle is the burst

You need to press it without holding forward

Forward + V4 makes it the low line version

Sorry I meant down

You are most definitely holding down unconsciously while pressing the skill

It shouldn't do 17 lines only

[shadow widget]

is it all same thing but difference name? or there something difference?

[crystal jewel]

are you asking why there’s multiple weapons with the same name?

[shadow widget]

no my question is is different name got different attribute or it is just a name?

[crystal jewel]

yup so there’s 4 main types of weapon naming convention

• Briser: Boss Atk %
• Halphas/Bloody: Crit Atk%
• Jaihin: Crit Dmg%
• Utgard: Exp%

when building a weapon, you should focus on Jaihin as it’s widely agreed that it’s the best out of the 4

others like Raven Horn, Necro, Fafnir etc. are more “end game” varieties but they all evolve from the 4 main types above. Except Fafnir - which you should ignore entirely btw.

[little lagoon]

Hello. Need some help on which C skill to prioritize first.

[shadow widget]

alright thankyou👍

[lime vale]

Any changes for stolen skills and can someone show me their bossing wheel would be really appreciated 😮‍💨😁

[bold bolt]

what level are you?

and what bosses are you doing?

[still glen]

op

even skim is here

[lime vale]

187 atm

I haven’t started bosses yet or gotten v skills but I just want a perception of what it’s going to look like

[bold bolt]

if you're 187, i would use mille, tempest, and rose carte

[lime vale]

Ok 🙂

[subtle seal]

i think goddess -> frueds -> lr/bfb-> venom but pls dont craft them (craft normal nodes and open) or use exp nodes on them, save for will skill you need 37 nodes to max it

[little lagoon]

Will skills are the erda skills? So I don't need to use them yet?

Thanks for the info btw

[subtle seal]

its from the will node, not shown in the crafting page. you dont need them yet but when you hit level 235 you can fully max it at one go with 37 experience nodes (thats the only way to level it unless you buy more of them from ts which is not very worth)

i think some people will suggest using experience nodestones for v skills but i personally saved 37 before using extras for other skills

[little lagoon]

Ohh I see! Lvl235 seems to be so far away haha. Only lvl213 now. Might start to save up node exp once I get closer abit

Btw, does phantom need to have weapon exalted to lvl50 to reach mdc with full buff?

Can't seem to reach anywhere near MDC yet

[subtle seal]

Prob not needed in a team based setting, buffs from other supports like bishop pala makes a huge difference

Emblems, potentials also play a big part in being able to cap

[little lagoon]

Yep. I have a Pala and bishop team mate for their buff but just hitting around 10m per line

This is my current equipment status. Have final dmg hyper stat maxed out as well

And upgrading a legendary PB belt to sf18 to replace the unique one

But I'm not sure if that helps out in terms of dmg alot or not tho haha

[subtle seal]

prob wont be too much of a diff, what should make a diff is
pots,legion,link,emblems

But dont worry, as long as the boss dies and you do at least 2% allg

[little lagoon]

Ok. Guess making more alt is the way to go haha

[proper mist]

hi may i enquire what are some of your skill presets for both AB and bossing?

[rugged cove]

If you are post200 with V-skills, I don't see the difference so I just use bossing wheel for AB

Others might disagree and have their own

It's just based on what I see and test, it doesn't matter

Rose, V2, V3 and esp toggled V4 just map clears

That'd be the difference, just V4 toggled on for farming and off for bossing

[proper mist]

thank you!

[naive relic]

Using chain lightning.For the 4th stolen skill. Not sure anything changed

[sturdy badger]

Anyone know's what the best hyper stat distribution is rn?

For phantom

[tawdry epoch]

imo still the same fd mdc pdi ADI

[obtuse sleet]

can anyone link me the AB skill please

[twin hull]

A question, what are the perfect trios for bosear?

[gaunt cape]

amex, master and visa

[little lagoon]

Can anyone share their bossing burst rotation? Like which skill to manually activate etc 😁

[gaunt cape]

apple pay - auto

[little lagoon]

Lol haha

[sonic birch]

Anyone know if the phantom v4 skill's delayed hit can miss a boss if it moves out of it's animation area?

[gaunt cape]

v4 is instant damage

[drifting frigate]

^

[torpid depot]

what steps should i be prioritizing to hit cap?

any advice is appreciated!

[rugged cove]

Link skills, c-skills like Goddess blessing-Freuds-and the thief skill that gives FD I forgot

Also seems like impossible you can't hit cap with these gears

Did you try with full buff?

What stolen skills you use?

Also don't exalt your top bottom, it's pointless

Esp non emblem

Maybe your CD is lacking, so emblem helmet, exalt to 40 + link skills

Inherit40 or Necro40 helm + gloves first

Show us your stats with full buff, it's easier to diagnose

[rugged cove]

Also did you turn on fair trade for the +100% rate buff?

[torpid depot]

is this full buff? stolen from someone else in this did

[torpid depot]

yeah

[torpid depot]

2650 legion only tho

[rugged cove]

Change hyper body to Meditation, the Paladin skill to Cross Surge (Dark Knight skill), 4th one to Sharp Eyes (Bowmaster), Swap Sancro out to Dark Thirst

but honestly, with these stats you should be capping lol

I cap 18 m at worse gear than you

when I was at 18m

[rugged cove]

Shrimp as well

and the 3 Tangyoon buffs

Crit rate, Phy Dmg, Boss Attack

[torpid depot]

i didn’t have the other 2 tangyoon but this is what it’s at

[drifting frigate]

Your level is too low

Also it depends on what skills you want to cap with

Tempest and V1 is easiest to cap, you gain more attack as you level up and unlock more symbols.

Try taking advantage of the free exp gears like mu lung pendant, legend returns etc.

[wintry vale]

Hi all! May I ask what is the best skill for phantom to steal to down Lotus with a team?

[subtle seal]

dark sight, monkey magic, cross surge/fountain (not needed if got bishop), single res, sancro

[wintry vale]

Thank you Snow!

[dreamy path]

What the best skills to use for mobbing including stolen skills

[dreamy path]

Mainly for messo farming

[drifting frigate]

Milles > Chain Lightning (ice lightning) > Showdown (Night Lord)

If you can 1 shot mobs with the homing shuriken, showdown is the best skill.

[dreamy path]

Milles is better then lightning? I'm surprised

You are talking that walking one where you melee things ring

[drifting frigate]

Yeah. It's best if you can't 1 shot with chain lightning.

If you can 1 shot mobs with chain lightning, then chain lightning is better.

[dreamy path]

Oh I see i get you now

[drifting frigate]

If you can 1 shot mobs with homing shuriken with showdown, then showdown is better.

[dreamy path]

Much appreciated ❤️

[drifting frigate]

No problem

[scenic bough]

Guys is there any guide out there that goes into detail for skill rotations and optimization? I feel like I do less damage than other classes with similar cap -30m++ even for longer fights

[rugged cove]

that's just Phantom right

cant have giga damage with giga flexibility in our skill swipe ability

[scenic bough]

Haha but wondering anything I can do to optimize dmg, especially in damien lucid etc

Have tried stuff like inferno aura in ghb but doesn’t seem to help

[rugged cove]

assuming you are capping your lines and already using skills off cooldown, that's the limit of Phantom

what you are experiencing is the reality of Phantom haha

don't think Phantom's rotation is that difficult

only thing I will say is to time your buffs + V skill burst when DS4 is up

thats the thing I had to learn when doing Damien

other than that, I can't really think of anything

[scenic bough]

Yea do you feel like your DPS is also not as high as what other people are doing at the same cap?

I can cap mostly everything except maybe ADI hyper skill and rapier wit

[subtle seal]

can you ss your line counts from a battle analysis in damien

[keen lotus]

I feel like my dps is fine compared to other classes at similar MDC tbh

[subtle seal]

Same

[rugged cove]

I don't compare to other people tbh, I just know Phantom's lines aren't the greatest but I am doing good damage

I just care about raising my MDC

[keen lotus]

Phantom lines are really quite good though

Like objectively speaking

[rugged cove]

I dont know, I never counted it, I just know people say Phantom lines are good but not that highest highest lines good

I thought he's talking about comparing to those classes

but idk

never had an issue with my damage haha

just know most likely is my skill issue timing burst with DS4

[rugged cove]

do you know Phantom's latest rank for line counts? haha I never bothered to read tier list. I play Phantom because of the card aesthetics

[keen lotus]

I'm not sure tbh

But for a non clone class it's pretty good

[stray trail]

32mil mdc here @scenic bough idk if you want to use this compare to what you have but i out dps some of my guildies who have more mdc than i do by atleast 2mil+ or more

[rugged cove]

Amazing damage

[stray trail]

This is how i run my set up and put blink on instead of rapier for Damien and run single res as well for Damien on 2nd page

[stray trail]

Ty Ty

DIR can also help you hit harder in your higher bosses if you are lacking there as well @scenic bough

[rugged cove]

I wonder how many cubes you spent rolling the bonus pot to Legendary for weapon haha

[stray trail]

Like 45 total 😂 i got lucky and went to unique in first like 15 maybe?

[rugged cove]

Bruh hahaha nice

[stray trail]

I’m not going for no 3 line tho that’s wicked

[rugged cove]

Hmm but how you are hitting 40k PA though, I have N40, only 33k

Even if taking symbols from 225, 230, 235, is just another ~4500 PA

[stray trail]

Flames probably?

[rugged cove]

Damn nice

[keen lotus]

Allright this might be a bit awkward but I'm pretty sure we have the highest non clone line count in the game

[rugged cove]

Oh damn, then I might've underestimated Phantom then 😂

Not complaining though hahah

[scenic bough]

I think I definitely have a suboptimal rotation or something then, I have 34m mdc but doing less damage than you.. need to fix my rotation or skill layout

[scenic bough]

My DIR is only around 11% though

[scenic bough]

I don’t have will skill and don’t have venom burst as well typically because never bought the node/ never added extra node slots for venom burst

[stray trail]

Will skill and VB don’t account for much of the dps it’s more just extra passive damage 😅

As for DIR just try to obtain more when you can and stats like CD/phy dmg/atk/BA/FD will all help you hit your cap

[scenic bough]

That’s why I’m wondering if it’s mainly due to me not playing the class well and not optimizing the rotation haha yea don’t think VB etc would contribute much

Example of lotus lines..

[keen lotus]

Are your V skills maxed?

[stray trail]

This is my lotus

Maybe you’re missing and don’t realize it? Line count from yours and mine are different but same amount of times the skill was used

Hmmmm your Mille min damage

What’s your vskills looking like?

And hyper stats?

[scenic bough]

Vskills I left phantom mark one more lvl otherwise maxed

[scenic bough]

Hyper stats not fully maxed but most lvl 20, been lazy to max adi

[scenic bough]

No idea how come got 4M min dmg 🤣

Yea seems like luck of the draw might have not connected somehow

[rugged cove]

Now I am invested in this conversation because my lines are similar to prosas lines

🤣🤣

My Luck of the Draw lines are missing Lol

Haha what is this

Compared to Hermm's

Others are close after normalising by number of times used

Might be accidentally cancelling it with Milles or something

[keen lotus]

Do you use mille straight after V1?

It lasts like 4 seconds lol

[rugged cove]

I use Tempest after the buff

But I might be cancelling it earlier

That's the only logical explanation here

I do Rose>Ace>V4>V3 (maybe if I don't need iframe)>V1>Tempest

This is why it's important to talk to other players or I'll be theory crafting the wrong things lel

[stray trail]

Hmmm i don’t use the goddess blessing or last resort yet not until i unlock the other slots for them

Besides this and i have maxed my hyper stats to lvl 25 for phy dmg/FD/and mdc and my stats somewhere up there that’s all unbuffed too idk what yall do to not be higher than me 😭

Maybe i can record one of our boss runs coming up to show yall what i do

[keen lotus]

I do V2>V3>V4>Rose>venom burst>Hold tempest + V1 preset>cancel V2 while holding preset>let go of preset once V1 starts>Mille once I see the card pull animation

This was my latest lotus

[crystal jewel]

could someone link me what’s our V1-V4 skills please i can’t remember which is which

[rugged cove]

Nah after checking, for me, I think I am cancelling my V1 unintentionally with Lotus trying to move around or something (skill issue)

Have to visually confirm the card animation I guess..missing about 30 lines per V1 usage

[rugged cove]

V1 Luck of the draw
V2 Ace in the hole
V3 Phantom's Mark
V4 Rift break

[rugged cove]

I have always thought instant down+V2 for the solo burst thing does more damage? That's what you mean right?

[scenic bough]

How do you cancel V1? I am also not sure if I accidentally do it

[rugged cove]

basically if you press any skill before you visually see the card buff animation

because i ts in the description you can cancel v1 with any skills

bcz tbf in phase 1 lotus, I cancel my v1 a lot depending on the laser haha

so thatr might be it

yep, I checked my V1 lines for other bosses, seems like for bosses that I had to cancel a lot like in Ark , lines per usage is lower

so then I think we have to be more mindful how and when to use V1 to make sure you always get the full lines per usage about ~590 lines

thanks for asking the question @scenic bough , learnt how important V1 is LOL or I'll also be using it subpar at half of the full lines

[scenic bough]

I just tested it seems like I have been canceling it early also. The line count can be quite different

[scenic bough]

Is there any merit to putting V4 before V3 to ensure that phantom mark gets the max stacks? Or I guess doesn’t really matter because the 7 stacks will occur

[keen lotus]

What do you mean with this?

[keen lotus]

Doesn't matter, the first one will always be without the 7 stacks and after that you'll always have the 7 stacks anyways

[rugged cove]

if you hold down + V2, it will use the single target burst version

Liberated card version

I saw it has 54 hit count at 305% skill damage vs normal one so I always hold down + v2 for it

or am I trippin?

[subtle seal]

you should let it hit for a few seconds before activating liberated card to get the max lines possible from both ace in the hole and liberated card

[keen lotus]

Ahh yes sort of but you'll miss our on the lines from the ball bouncing itself

Hence why I use it, let it go and then cancel right before it's about to end for max lines

[subtle seal]

221 -> only pressing the first time and letting it fade away on its own

244 -> activating once, count to 4 and press it again

[rugged cove]

damn I read the description and the way I understood it is that you need to choose between one and another because it says "if any cards reach the max hit count and disappear, Liberated Card cant be used"

so I thought cards reach max hit count = Ace in the Hole, and since Liberated card has higher skill dmg + hit count, I should just use that

man I should really test things out instead of reading

😂

alright this has been eye-opening for me

appreciate y'all pro Phantoms

haha

[sonic birch]

hey all, was just testing it further, but rift beak can miss the boss if it leaves its hit box right? Theres an intial and delayed burst

[rugged cove]

its instant

assuming they were in frame the moment you pressed it

you can test it in Vellum where if you V4 him and it goes under the ground it still damages

but dont quote me on it, might be wrong

😂

[sonic birch]

I'll give it a shot

But in immortal dungeon, the first burst of 180 hits will trigger

but if plat moves away, the remaining will miss

[rugged cove]

yea I guess I am wrong then haha

[flat herald]

Hey someone have some tip for phantom skill steel ? For bosses and ab ? Im new in this class

[drifting frigate]

https://youtu.be/5gTms7hv90Q?si=zNujFMI1mphmo_YK

[flat herald]

Thanks

[tired reef]

I have good question if im maxing trio node wit Impeccable memory 1-3 how much FD ill get at the end? And is it worth it?

[keen lotus]

You get 60 times the value of the level 1 boost node and it's not worth it

The only ones that are moderately worth it nowadays are IM3 and IM4

But even that is just for optimizing end game

[kindred geode]

I would like to see the stolen skills ya use for phantom… I was recommended some but then when maxing my vskills then it kinda doesn’t add up idk lol just trying to see others builds

[ionic bone]

What’s the best emblem split that’s phantoms want now?

[tired reef]

IM1 start in 5%/ im4 start in 2%, sounds like 5% x60 its alot of FD

[rugged cove]

the FD is for that skill only, it's not FD stats

and like PhantomSir said, it's more for optimizing end game, no point focusing on them tbh unless you are in end game

[tired reef]

Wait so if i have buff on im2 the FD won't add to it? Only to an att skill?

[tired reef]

Actually my phantom is grinding nodes but i want to make it a little bit stronger

[drifting frigate]

You can either go:
2 nodes for
Blanc/carte noire,
tempest,
And Milles

Or

4 nodes with
Tempest
Milles
Blanc/carte noir
IM4
IM3
Rose Carte Finale

[drifting frigate]

^

[drifting frigate]

Only IM 3 and 4 is useful when farming (IM 3 for arrow blaster and IM4 for showdown/chain lightning)

[little lagoon]

Any tips on what to focus on to reach MDC?

[rugged cove]

Crit Damage is low

Boss Attack is decent

Aim for 100% BA and 400% Cdmg

Hyper stats FD/PD if you haven't maxed already

Link skills/Legion

And make sure you actually fully buff when doing bosses/testing damage

[little lagoon]

This was with only buffs that can stay constantly on

Hyper have fd and pd maxed

But no CD on hyper Stats tho

[rugged cove]

dont need Cd on hyper stats yet

you gotta up that CD

link/legion/emblem/potentials

[little lagoon]

Ooo okok

I'll check out which alt to create to get more CD

Still waiting for some emblem unique gear to go up into the market

Thanks!

[feral verge]

Can anyone share the perfect trios for phantom?

[little lagoon]

Milles, carde and tempest

[feral verge]

I mean the combinations because it seems like those 3 won't come combined on a node

[rugged cove]

that's the game my man....keep buying and opening nodestones until you get the perfect trio

[little lagoon]

Yeah you'll need to keep opening until you get it

[tired reef]

If you craft, always craft from the same starter so at the end youll have high lvl nodes till you finde the perfect one

[mellow crag]

r

[willow citrus]

hi which are the 12 link skills for bossing?

[bold bolt]

All the Final Dmg, Phy Dmg, HP%, BA, Accuracy. I'm not sure in what order but make sure to get a 2nd opinion because just cause

[eternal shard]

Hi I’m also phantom user trying to maximise my burst dmg here. May I ask, what u mean by v1 preset?
And in this whole process of V2>v3>v4>rose>venom>tempest, the v2 skill is still flying around right, Until u cancel ie trigger the liberation?

[drifting frigate]

He means to cast V2, let it fly and cast your other skills.

Set tempest and V1 together as a preset.

So if you hold down your preset button it'll cast tempest, once it's done with tempest it'll go into casting V1.

Then press V2 again while you're casting tempest, and let go when you see V1.

[keen lotus]

Pretty much what the above message said yea

[little lagoon]

So you'll need to use another hand to click v2 again while using tempest?

[eternal shard]

Another finger I suppose. Thanks guys, I’ll try it out and see

[eternal shard]

Another thing is, do you on the command button for tempest v1 preset? It seems it will auto cast one after another without holding

[drifting frigate]

Command off

[drifting frigate]

Yeah, or if you're on computer another key

[eternal shard]

Hi guys, I was thinking of resetting my passive hyper skill cuz I wanted 10% hp boost from ward. How do you guys use your sp? Which skills should I remove from.

[drifting frigate]

2 4 6 8 9

[little lagoon]

Ok thanks!

[weary nest]

Is this guide worth it for Phantom:

I'm having no luck so far compared to my Erel with 2 sets of perfect trios.

[rugged cove]

Just get bossing

Erel nodes are in easy mode

Phantom/Dual Blades are extreme difficulty

[ionic bone]

Yeah, we just have so many skills that the trio is tough.

[drifting frigate]

I got top 6, and got IM4 instead of IM2

The IM4 for mobbing is pretty good

Might change in future for 2 decent buffs for end game bossing. Not sure. 🤔 Maybe. 🤔

[hasty plover]

Top priority to level up of the 5th job

[bold bolt]

You get 3 seconds of iframe when V1 ends.

[rugged cove]

Dang you read everything above so far back haha yea thanks I know that now

[bold bolt]

[rough plume]

So the patch notes for us is out....

[little lagoon]

anyone know what the judgement draw change means?

Overall dmg decrease?

[drifting frigate]

Think it's just a nerf on the Carte Noir damage

Whether or not it's overall damage decrease is still hard to tell cause both V1 and Judgement draw takes up the bulk of phantom's damage

V1 got buffed and Judgement draw got nerfed, so it's hard to tell

[little lagoon]

Yep that's why I'm confused as well haha. Glad I'm not the only one

[austere valve]

Does anyone know what will happen to the liberated card stats?

[subtle seal]

It’s gone, you don’t have to press it again

[keen lotus]

Time will tell if it's good or bad

Although I have no clue why they changed it cuz the reason they gave makes 0 sense

[subtle seal]

Damage wise I don’t think it will matter cause we will be capping anyways (hopefully) only line count matters for now till prob 200-300 mdc (in the future when it’s harder to cap)

[keen lotus]

The only time cancelling V2 gave me a "advantage" was when I used it in CPB to one shot him while I could go to the side alr for faster item pick up but I hardly think that warrants a change

[subtle seal]

Yeah totally agree, ace’s lines gonna drop abit I think

[keen lotus]

At least venom burst got a line increase

[subtle seal]

But I think won’t make too huge of a difference tho, since the other skills are more important in phantom’s kit

Yeah venom gonna do contribute 2% more dmg hopefully 😂

[keen lotus]

It's 64 extra lines per minute I wouldn't get your hopes up too much

I think

Wait cd is 30 seconds right

Bruh how do I forget this

[subtle seal]

Time to test it out tmr and be disappointed💀

[keen lotus]

Either hyper or venom burst is 1 min cd but I forgot which one LOL

[subtle seal]

Yeah I think it’s 30 secs

Hyper is 30 secs too

[austere valve]

Yeah ace was 15 secs

[keen lotus]

Nah one of them is 60

[subtle seal]

Hyper is 100% 30 secs

[keen lotus]

I'll check gotta log in for HT anyways

[subtle seal]

It’s prob venom then

It’s always in my preset 😂

[keen lotus]

Ye same

Venom is 60 tho

Sick

So it's 32 more lines per minute

[austere valve]

I feel that if they wanted to balance they shld keep liberated card and extend cd instead

[odd stag]

What skills do you guys steal for mobbing and bossing?
Currently i have:
magic guard
Monkey magic
Cross surge
Crossbones
Dark thirst
Thanks in advance

[bold bolt]

I like meditation but i'll use monkey magic if i need more hp for bossing. (unless someone else is bringing it)

I like Parashock Guard instead of Cross surge but i'll use cross surge for bosses that do hp scaled attacks

[glossy sentinel]

Nerf on Rose Carte is a bit annoying...

[rugged cove]

BUFF PHANTOM

[deft talon]

It got nerfed for nothing :c

[scenic bough]

Did line count drop?

[little lagoon]

I didn't get a chance to test it out yet. Maybe the pros here will test out on boss this few days 😁

v1 upgrade seems nice tho

[drifting frigate]

Feels the same

My immortal dungeon score increased by 100m or so

[keen lotus]

I run
Dark sight
Monkey magic
Cross surge
Chain lightning mobbing / pala res bossing
Sacro

But that's mainly just because I'm lazy and don't wanna go to the Lumiere before every boss to set up the best possible skills every time

[rugged cove]

The actual real answer haha

Also why I don't run Sancro bcz too lazy to swap with Dark Thirst for AB-ing . Besides dark thirst arguably feels better in bossing if I don't need Sancro to survive

[worn hazel]

they really need to make a qol change and let us steal up 4 skills to limit the times we go back to that flying boat lol

[rugged cove]

Time to put this in #msm-feedback-qol

[keen lotus]

Oh I use sacro in both bossing and mobbing

[marble kiln]

Our damage was nerfed then...

[keen lotus]

Mine was fine

Obv increased because of MDC increase but otherwise seemed okay

Real test tonight with will gloom archon I guess

I just gotta remember to not try to cancel V2 automatically

[stray trail]

It’s such a bad habit i still do it regardless

[keen lotus]

I'm throwing 5 diff gang signs to be ready to cancel while holding down another button and then realize I don't have to

[subtle seal]

same LOL

[keen lotus]

Btw, I'm still capping most skills post patch, just not Mille and judgement so feels pretty balanced

[scenic bough]

I am having issues capping post update

Got around 200% ba 457% cdmg 200% pdmg increase and 38k pa

[keen lotus]

Ye gotta get more PA I guess

I'm at 47k

Which is still low but I never bothered to exalt my wep

[little lagoon]

How much is your cap?

[scenic bough]

44m

[little lagoon]

Just wondering what level is your weapon to have 47k haha

[little lagoon]

Wow ok. That's high 😆 still a long way to go for me

[scenic bough]

Very high PA

[keen lotus]

Euh

44

Necro

[scenic bough]

How you get to 47k pa with a 44 necro

[little lagoon]

Ahh okay gotta aim to reach all you pro's level 🫡

[scenic bough]

Ur af very high?

[little lagoon]

Arcane?

[keen lotus]

Skills

But ye

Probably just symbols haha

[scenic bough]

I think N44 vs N40 maybe 2k pa gap but I’m missing like 9k from you

[keen lotus]

These are my unbuffed stats

I do get 9495 PA from symbols tho

[scenic bough]

Your final dmg increase is really high!

[keen lotus]

Well

I did just get off pet before taking SS so this is with goddess blessing etc

[keen lotus]

I'm not actually capping mille and judgement draw in culvert btw I just figured

[worn hazel]

Im no where near capping at all

[worn hazel]

88m cap and these are my lines lol

[scenic bough]

Oh man I’ve been finding it tough to get enough stats

[little lagoon]

How I wish I could get near to your dmg haha

[scenic bough]

I think main problem is other classes have 2mins burst skills, and they buffed things like goddess blessing to make it sync with their big burst skills, but since all our skills are 30 sec CD we will never be able to align the buff skills with our burst skills all the time

[keen lotus]

Full buff?

And what were your serttings

[keen lotus]

This is a tradeoff though

Like

We get all of our burst auto synced with DS4

That's a way bigger deal

[worn hazel]

Ya full buff, I even set fog to 0% ied and crit res.

[keen lotus]

Interesting

What are your stats?

[keen lotus]

And what level btw for the boss

[worn hazel]

I put the boss at my current level, should it be something else? I’m going to try and see how the lines look in boss practice later

^ with class buffs, no external buffs

[keen lotus]

Most bosses these days are level 200

Just culvert is diff

[worn hazel]

Ok I’ll redo and see if things change

[keen lotus]

This does look pretty good tho, but I guess you'll have to work on stuff like bonus pots to really get to that capping point

[worn hazel]

I’d make more sense if I was hitting like 60-70s, but seeing 40s is shocking lol

[keen lotus]

4th job skills in general seem hard to cap currently

[ionic bone]

Tragic

[split yew]

Hello, someone already try new skill to steal?

[tawdry epoch]

boss def?

[ionic bone]

Do we still take Sacro/dark thirst? The Corsair one looks decent with the status res + the FD%

[scenic bough]

think might need to start stealing more buffs than support skills . Capping such a problem

[fast isle]

Agreed. Capping such a problem.

[keen lotus]

Imo it just means you gotta exalt your wep again, which we didn't have to before

But it's not really the end of the world

As long as your wep is on the same level as your armour you'll be fine

[dusky fractal]

hi, is here any bossing guide?

are the pinned msg still viable for current update?

[ionic bone]

What is DS4?

[keen lotus]

Defense smash 4

Special node that's very useful in ark and up

[ionic bone]

Ty

[bold bolt]

youtube or your guild would be the best bet

practice mode too

[dusky fractal]

YouTube are all mostly 2 years ago sure I m not sure it is up to date or not

[bold bolt]

Boss usually stays the same.

[dusky fractal]

Can you share yours ?

[simple escarp]

Can i ask what skill u guys steal?in this patch

[keen lotus]

I've not changed anything yet

Still running dark sight monkey magic cross surge chain lighting/pala res sacro

Cuz iframe is still king for me as I'm running more of a support role in bosses

[scenic bough]

I’ve been taking bleed dart and crossbones sometimes and going full DPS to cap.. especially in lower lvl bosses. Maybe go back to iframe for damien etc

[dusky fractal]

This for bossing ?

[keen lotus]

Well both

CL mobbing pala res bossing the rest I keep the same

[dusky fractal]

I see thanks !

[dusky fractal]

Hi , is this still the same ? Since V2 doesn’t need to cancel anymore

[deft talon]

Is showdown better than CL?
In terms of mob hit count

[keen lotus]

It's the same but without the V2 cancel

[keen lotus]

For me it is yeah

[rugged cove]

so you dont use the down + V2 version?

liberated card or whatever it is

[keen lotus]

Nah ends up being less lines I'm pretty sure

[rugged cove]

I use the down + v2 because based on this, it deals more target, more lines at a higher skill dmg but sometimes it's hard to trust Nexon wording 😂

but the one you taught before to cancel it was really good dps though

[meager badge]

what hyper skill should i use for auto battle?

[rugged cove]

All of them

Just use recommended skill wheel and swap for CL/Showdown if you one shot

I don't do it because im too lazy to switch

Besides Miles already work good for farming

[meager badge]

its for an alt i got to sf133

hoping to 144

[rugged cove]

It doesn't matter

Just use them all

[keen lotus]

Well the issue is if you down press you don't get the bounces beforehand it just does the final attack immediately

So it ends up being less lines

[rugged cove]

I might be smoking but each time I use V2 normal version it never change to the liberated version??

[keen lotus]

Correct

But

[rugged cove]

it just disappears

[keen lotus]

It's the ace in the hole thing

[rugged cove]

oo

[drifting frigate]

That's the change in the patch

No more liberation but higher line count for normal version

[rugged cove]

which is why I mentioned, why dont we use liberated version which has more lines higher skill damage?

[rugged cove]

as shown here

[keen lotus]

V2 consists of 3 parts:
The line + repeat count without any text before it is the bounce on the boss itself
The [Ace in the Hole] is when the ball disappears after normal use
The [Liberated Card] is when you press down while using

So normal version is without text + ace in the hole

Down press is liberated card + maybe max 1 bounce I never really tested the exact numbers, I just know it doesn't bounce a lot

[rugged cove]

hahaha I've been observing it whenever I use V2, I just think the wording is confusing

I should go and test it out or something

[keen lotus]

You can just go to fog training ground and use both versions seperately to see which does more lines

Exactly

[rugged cove]

Nexon pls

😂

[drifting frigate]

Yeah it just takes 1 min max to test

[keen lotus]

I'm predicting the normal use dealing 3 * 4 * 13 + 3 * 26 = 234 lines and the down arrow version 3 * 54 = 162 lines

[rugged cove]

Normal

Down version

Wth

That's so dumb

What was the point of the skill description if it's misleading

[keen lotus]

Oh

It's even worse than I thought

I thought all 3 would explode

[rugged cove]

Lmao wthhhh Nexon

Why read

When you can test

:KEKW

[keen lotus]

[rugged cove]

[keen lotus]

In general you should always test I guess

[rugged cove]

I was a YuGiOh player so I read

Kekw

[keen lotus]

[rugged cove]

all good

[keen lotus]

Makes life easier this way anyways

Can just normal press

[rugged cove]

yea i will be testing stuff for everything else from now on instead of trusting the skill description

yea

true

although the canceling method you taught before made it kinda fun

copium

[drifting frigate]

What other way is there?

Previously

[rugged cove]

before the patch

press it normally then wait 3-4 seconds then use the liberated version

you do a lot more lines

was triggered by someone else here asking question hahaha

[drifting frigate]

Isn't that the normal way?

[rugged cove]

was good learning

I was always pressing down + V2 based on the skill description alone

[drifting frigate]

Ahhh 😨

So it just explodes straight away?

[rugged cove]

I trust Nexon's writing a bit too much XDDD

that's on me

yea

well it has a different animation

which i thought means = liberated card = higher lines higher skill dmg

[drifting frigate]

I see. Damn.

[rugged cove]

I wouldn't have figured it out if I wasnt here and PhantomSir didnt explain it to all of us that time

😂

[drifting frigate]

I watched this previously, it's tested in the video somewhere: https://youtu.be/5gTms7hv90Q?si=2uMAGOG1ZT4HJ7nJ

[rugged cove]

oo

[keen lotus]

Ye I still miss that aswell

[keen lotus]

Even better, only 1 explodes, the other 2 just disappear lol

[dusky fractal]

@keen lotus mind share your preset and bossing wheels ?

[keen lotus]

Euh

I'll do in a bit

Can't log rn

[keen lotus]

Just imagine the cl being pala res forgot to swap lol

[dusky fractal]

Thanks !

[dusky fractal]

Mind share ab wheels as well ? 🤭

[keen lotus]

AB is just V2 V3 V4 hyper and CL hahaha

[weary nest]

You guys weren't kidding on how hard it is to perfect trio Phantom - my god!

[ionic bone]

How does frueds wisdom work?

Do we just double tap it off the rip or let the stacks build

[rugged cove]

I let the stack build up because usually after using Dark Sight it will be just in time to hit full stacks

If for whatever reason I need the iframe then I will manually tap it again

[ionic bone]

Gotcha

Ty

[kindred geode]

Is venom burst worth the slot? I would say good for bossing only but what are y’all thoughts

[odd stag]

Hey brothers! What is the perfect trio for phantom?

[little lagoon]

#1059994691585716254 message

[odd stag]

Thanks alot!!

[feral verge]

In my opinion is complete trash not even worth a slot

[kindred geode]

Thank you

Got to have like 50 nodes of those lol

[dusky fractal]

Guys, how do you all use Freud wisdom ? Do you guys just tap once ? Or will tap twice for the addition buff ?

As for last resort how you guys use it ?

[little lagoon]

For fued was just answered above

[keen lotus]

I think it's worth it cuz more lines are more lines

But don't expect anything game changing from it

I just put it in my preset as there was a spot anyways

[keen lotus]

Freud's depends, in lategame bosses I just tap twice for the iframe, if i really wanna optimize like culvert I just let it build up for longer damage buffs

Last resort I just have on pet in culvert only as it's the only place I don't cap fully buffed

[odd stag]

Can any1 explain me what v skills you guys use at bossing? I find phantoms mark by far the most dmg. Do i need to enhance that slot and the skill node first?

Not lucky yet finding the perfect trio yet

[ionic bone]

We use them all

[keen lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/all-of-em-thomas-1883-all-of-them-everyone-gif-24225981

[ionic bone]

Do yall run 4CD 4BA or 5CD and 3BA for your emblems

Contemplating my last emblem i need

[keen lotus]

2BA6CD

[odd stag]

What to enhance first?

[woeful summit]

Is there any specific wheel recommendations for pre lvl 200? Or just follow the in game recommendations?

[bold bolt]

I personally would just use mille and tempest.

[odd stag]

What to enhance first in slot and node?

[keen lotus]

V3 and V4 if you want your rotation to be smooth asap

[odd stag]

How does the rotation looks like? Cant seem to find it

[uneven yacht]

Csn sny help in hyper pasives? 141-181 plx

[limber thistle]

Check pin

[uneven yacht]

2 years ago its the same?

[ionic bone]

Yes

[wheat mango]

o/ whats best skill to steal for phantom?

and best skills to equip for mobbing and bossing?

[bold bolt]

what level are you and what does your gear look like

[wheat mango]

im at lvel 130, still using the free SF10 gear upgraded to 12

[wheat mango]

your messages got deleted?

[bold bolt]

this is what i use for AB

I don't use chain lightning because I don't have mpets

I'd rather have my dude walk around a bit more

For boss, it depends on what you're team needs you to bring which is usually monkey magic, shell/fountain/dispell, single res or TL, and sacrosancity

[wheat mango]

What is AB?

guessing auto battle, thats on me

[bold bolt]

AB = auto battle

[wheat mango]

What is you full ability layout for that?

[bold bolt]

those are all buffs so it's on my pet

at level 130, i would personally only use mille and tempest on my skill wheel

[wheat mango]

Do you not use any of the phantom buffs?

Also what pets buff you?

[bold bolt]

hero's will is not on the pet buffs

[wheat mango]

So you don't use things like aria amour, maple warrior and bad luck ward?

[bold bolt]

you should have space to equip all buffs

pre-200 or from those free pets

[rugged cove]

just equip all buffs you have on your pet, Phantom gains a lot of boost from the buffs

[rugged cove]

and if you're just level 130, dont worry much about it, your main goal is to hit level 200 by sf17/18 your gear at sf147 and eventually sf168

dont worry much about the specifics for now

[rugged cove]

just use the Recommended Hunting skill option in game it's good enough

[wheat mango]

Gotcha thank you! Struggling to earn mesos to be able to upgrade the sf on my gear, at the moment I'm at 12 om everything still

[little lagoon]

Got one slot for additional v matrix. Would last resort be better or decent sharp eye?

Perfect trio + 4 vskills + fued + goddess already in

[little lagoon]

Or any other decent skill is good choice?

[rugged cove]

Always C-skills 1st

If you read the skill they give crazy FDs when buffing and burst

Decent skills come later assuming you can cap already at least when you are buffing with Cskills and bursting

[little lagoon]

I see! Okay

[rugged cove]

Eventually you'd wanna save a slot for Decent Hyper Body to help you hit HP benchmarks

120k 150k 210k

[little lagoon]

Now another question that I know I could test it out myself but just figured I'd ask, does toxic venom's dot triggers carde?

[rugged cove]

Idk I don't use it

No slots for me atm lol

[little lagoon]

Haha okay then guess it's decent skill after last resort is in 😂

[rugged cove]

Well it's not a buff

It's just additional lines assuming you can fully cap max min dmg

[little lagoon]

Alright! I'm at 120k doing Arka with guildies but not sure when I'll ever be ready for 150k to do further bosses

[little lagoon]

Oo okay. I'm still far from there

[rugged cove]

Basically you need to understand the purpose of the skills

Esp as Phantom so many skills

[little lagoon]

Yeahhhh

[rugged cove]

Buffs are to help you hit cap and raise min dmg

Decent skills will help you with that later

Or to do boss without buffs

Now I don't need buffs for daily bosses below Hmag anymore

Which is amazing so you save on RA coins

[little lagoon]

Wow okay 👍🏻 that makes sense!

[rugged cove]

C-skills buffs is to combine with your DS4 window and burst

With V-skills tempest

To make sure at least you cap on those lines

And doing max dmg possible

[little lagoon]

I'm now debating between spending meso to open v matrix slot vs getting new slot for another alt

[little lagoon]

Ahh okay. I'm not able to meet the cap yet. Guess still ways to go for me

[rugged cove]

I honestly couldn't recommend opening slots early on for u

If you are not capping

Like for me doing Ndam I had to open more slots to use utility skills

Like Blink fly

Then decent speed infusion for BA

On the other hand, using mesos for buy a new char slot is kinda not efficient

Crystals are better

But if you're pure f2p or something then ignore me

[little lagoon]

Ooo then I save up meso for emblem eq to build them and use crystal for char slot?

I save up crystals from gfb

Kinda slow but f2p friendly haha

[rugged cove]

That seems better

[little lagoon]

Okay 👍🏻

Thankss!

[quick cypress]

Hello I m new Phantom player, is ok on DPS? Or it's at a lower tier, just wondering

[ionic bone]

Phantom doesn’t have a crazy burst. We are consistent with short CD on our bursts. Higher survivability. We have a handful of options to bring to boss fights

[quick cypress]

Still can steal exp skill from bish? Like pc version old times

[rugged cove]

based on what @keen lotus said last time, we're one of the highest DPS while having tons of utility

pretty cracked class

welcome

[torpid depot]

anyone know requirements to solo ark?

[glossy sentinel]

Is Anyone experiencing a weird bug where you cannot use Cross Surge buff with Phantom?
Other 3rd job skill like Combat Order buff still works.

[rugged cove]

Can you even solo Hmag now?

No such thing as requirements since if you know the mechanic you can clear it albeit slowly

Recommended is 120k hp to tank the lightning

Mythic40 emblem with maxed nodes/v1 or v4 skill

[little lagoon]

I'm able to clear solo mode hmag but find it difficult to kill off solo ark

Have Necro 40 and perfect trio lvl60 and v1 and v4 maxed while v3 and v2 are around 15

I think my problem was not knowing what and when to avoid dmg. Keep dying in between

Have 130k HP so I think HP should meet the minimal amount

Managed to only shred off 60% HP before I run out of revive tho

I try watching solo ark tutorial but find it hard to understand what to avoid 😂

[rugged cove]

ooh

then your issue is mechanics issue

save your iframes for crack

75% 50% 25% and 10% (?) HP

you can start off by bursting and then use dark sight for the both 75% and 50% assuming you can burst them quickly

after Ark summon snake

just run away

most likely he'll use the lock skill that you need to press left right to break

basically the safe way to burst with V1 is right after a crack

or after he uses the purpleish snare left right to break

V3 is an iframe so I save it for emergencies

there's Freud's too

i'd say it's pretty easy with Phantom vs other classes imo assuming you have the damage(which you do)

gotta practice

the good thing about phantom in Ark is you can hold Milles, move around and make sure to always be behind him

he cant hurt you if you are behind him (like when he throws out orb or snake)

I'll record an example later if I am free haha

[little lagoon]

Thanks for the details! I'll have to try again when I have the buffs up

[little lagoon]

Sounds awesome!

I didn't know v3 is iframe 👀 everytime i come here I learn smtg new

[little lagoon]

Fued is iframe too?

[torpid depot]

can solo hmag without extra buffs

what skills do u steal for ark

i have 144k hp

[uneven yacht]

Wath its iframe? Srr new plsyer here

[rugged cove]

Dang I can't record today

Can't go to Practice Mode

Because I did it last night

Personally this is what I use

Can swap Dark Thirst for Sancro if you need more iframe

But I prefer Dark Thirst and lazy to swap for training haha

[rugged cove]

Not just Ark, well team Ark is different but for other bosses I use this

[torpid depot]

ahh i see

how come i don’t see option for ark practice mode

[rugged cove]

Huh did they not add Practice mode for Ark

I might be tripping then

Well one tip I can give is to focus on understanding what is the sequence of moves the boss will use

Sorry guys, can't record run

I now run Multi Ark daily which is different from solo

[rugged cove]

At max stacks yea

[little lagoon]

Ohhh I didn't know it was different haha sometimes follow guild and don't think so much

[rough plume]

Same I feel cross surge isnt working

[rough plume]

Anyone can share skill wheel for bosses like Ark please?

[little lagoon]

thanks @rugged cove . I managed to down my first solo ark today (albeit my death count is used up)

With full buff

Still died to screen crack so I think I should time my fued iframe better next time

Never got to try v3 iframe tho. Was too nervous and used to using it as part of burst combo