Buccaneer

[shut tusk]

if you want to survive, you're going to need decent gear

[cursive haven]

You’re way too spoilt

Not every class have free access to higher SF maps and will require abit of investing on their gears

I get it you’re a f2p player and looking for the ideal class that require no monetary investment is the dream class to play

[knotty turret]

I mean

Survivability is the #1 thing I look for now in a class

Went with bucc as my first char because it was cool. My final thought on this is that if you're a bucc as an F2P you're going to have a rough time.. If you can get better gears and are fine with taking forever to make progress, then it's fine

[shut tusk]

That can be said for most classes, but nowadays it's easier to find gear even as a f2p

[cursive haven]

Anyway @knotty turret

This still doesn’t excuse you for dissing the Buccaneer community

^

When the community here was open to helping you out from the start but you did not bother to held their advice or at the very least at least tell them you can’t take their advice as you are unable to spend that much

Instead you bicker and complain and complain in other class discussion threads and now digging back at the community with that post

@knotty turret Don’t you dare avoid this topic or change the subject

[haughty surge]

^ the main focus. lol. but anyway, i believe we all give our 5cent worth of comments on his attitude. cant help if he continue on with it. shall just continue peacefully play our game haha.

[past fable]

[lime haven]

I see that dude just spreading negativity throughout many class chats and its just bad for the community as a whole. Buccs are by no means weak, they are just not a DB/Blaster kind of dps. Survivability wise i agree with everyone here with a bucc main that buccs are hands down top 2 pirates interms of survivability only probably losing to shade due to freud. DPS its actually okay its just not the best at end end game content

[knotty turret]

Nothing wrong with stirring the pot for some entertainment

[knotty turret]

As your first character, it's a lot harder than you think. Once you've got some alts progressed it gets a lot easier but starting off it was an absolute nightmare

I had a 10000% easier time on my Shadower, only at that time I realised how low my bucc damage was even though it had way better gear and stats.. don't know why people on this thread aren't willing to admit the shortcomings of the class

[haughty surge]

Don’t know why you still don’t get it what’s your problem is. 🙄

[shut tusk]

you really don't get it, do you? you're not even owning up to your own mistakes or general user error.

you should realize you have a funding deficiency and were barely able to make the class work for yourself. if you had full mythic gear like we had advised you, you would have been a better position but refused to do so. we told you to go to a lower SF being not able to survive and you still refused. don't blame the class for YOUR own problems. at the end of the day, just say you didn't enjoy the class.

your view and knowledge of the game pre200 makes zero sense and has no value to us. the game has evolved over the years and the fun starts when you're 200+ regardless of class

[knotty turret]

I enjoy the class and still enjoy it

It just needs a lot better gear than an F2P is able to get

[rose bramble]

I’m pure f2p and I do just fine

But the main difference is I understood that I need to progress normally as a f2p and not try to skip steps 😂

[ancient scarab]

I’ll keep it short and simple. You don’t really have any clue wtf your talking about

[sturdy reef]

I'm sure this has all been good fun for everyone, but can we just move on now?

We don't have to keep feeding into it

[knotty turret]

How long you been playing

[rose bramble]

Since the game started

[knotty turret]

Sounds about right

[past fable]

Why does that matter

[jaunty harness]

[cursive haven]

Notice how he avoids your question

[past fable]

its a bad look

[knotty turret]

Newer F2P can’t get enough resources to fund especially with all the meso farming nerfs

[past fable]

well if you dont gear a character enough... it wont survive

[knotty turret]

This was the entire point.. survivability

[past fable]

My point is if you don’t put enough gears on your character… it will die regardless of the class

Would be good for you to actually listen to the OG buccs than give your input like a veteran on the class when you don’t even main it 🙂

[cursive haven]

Tbh, i dont even think he is legitmately serious when he asks any question about any class in general

Its like he is just asking for the sake of asking

You can just observe him in any class discussion and general chat

[ancient scarab]

I’ve been playing bucc forever. I never had a problem surviving any new content drop. I always felt bucc is pretty tanky

Currently the only thing that can kill me is shell in ark and if I tank double fire thing. In lotus it’s phase 1 lightning, phase 3 train and ball. Everything thing else I just eat

[knotty turret]

Bruh if you wanna get personal you can PM me

I’m not going to respond to personal attacks

[knotty turret]

That’s in the context of end game gear though

[ancient scarab]

But that applies to all classes? If your not geared every class is squishy?

[knotty turret]

Reminder that this discussion started here

[rose bramble]

I’m f2p with all mythic gear and I can tank Commander Ark damage

I call that pretty tanky

I dont die to AF170 mobs either

Even at the end game gear level Aries already mentioned that his bucc in full necro survives much better than his I/L mage in full necro

From a F2P perspective you have to accept that you cannot rush to higher content without being properly geared. Some classes can get by with less but eventually that small “advantage” disappears towards mid game and end game

What irks me are the general statements made about the class based off only early game experiences and shortcut equipment choices (like inheriting without exalting or refining) to reap short term benefits, which don’t really fit the f2p mindset that you’re describing

[onyx parcel]

Just wanna put in my 2 cents worth, i have no such issues face with my Bucc and its a fucking Legion Mule as i only equip it with at most legend equips at best (Weapon to Armor and a epic secondary weapon) and have no issues surviving in SF144, 147 (Based on the type of equipment i'm carrying)

My Bucc consumes lesser pots as compared to other warrior and mages.

Shadower while their meso guard is a really good passive skill for f2p to get by mid level SF fields like 144, 147 and prolly 150+, their attack range sucks despite their meso bomb skill and most importantly you still need to invest on your Shadower to survive and killer faster in higher SF maps just like Bucc.

[haughty surge]

I think beside looking at survivability, should look into generally gearing up your char as a whole (be it bucc or shadower or whatever characters)..

Don’t find a need to try to survive on minimum gear. Isn’t gear progression part of the game to have fun?

Tbh I can’t really be bothered whether you heeds our advices on bucc or in general about other chars, but what’s really irritating is in every class chat you keep dissing on bucc…. I believe discussing about the chars that u are playing is ok WITHOUT dissing on the char which doesn’t work for you.

And having a dig on bucc just for some entertainment which u mentioned? That’s so wrong. Hence not even bucc, others playing other chars are also voicing out on your attitude.

[knotty turret]

Damn I’ve got people riled up here

[knotty turret]

Fair point

I’ll show myself out..

[haughty surge]

I believe everyone can chat about their gaming experience about their chars no worries. Just don’t be toxic on any other chars.

With that I still hope you are able to have fun on what u are playing 🙂

[cursive haven]

Tbh, my only issue is you is that you have yet to apologize to the community here for dissing them over. Yeah, im no Bucc main. But as a player of another class that isnt meta (Aran) i feel for the Buccs when you diss them off like that.

[knotty turret]

Makes sense, sorry for speaking from an F2P perspective in that case

[ancient scarab]

I can do 8k if I ds1/4 swap

[shut tusk]

what's your cap now? 19+

[rose bramble]

i think he's at 20.1

[lime haven]

nice

[woven lance]

Try not to depend on it

This gimmick is not intended for SC

Eventually when the Devs do bother to look at this, they will remove it

Right now alot of classes are exploiting this

Especially classes with long iframes like DK and Paladin

[quiet siren]

Can I see yalls skill wheel

Can I copy it

[fleet acorn]

Anyone here who can tell me what tripple dice doing ? Is it random or can I choose the dices ?

[shut tusk]

#1059992661244772422 message

[shut tusk]

tap on Loaded Dice, it'll bring a menu up with all 7 dice, you can select 5 or 7 for bossing and 6 for training

the first dice will the one you chose, the other two dice are random

[fleet acorn]

That’s nice

Going to craft that node

[fleet acorn]

Thank you @shut tusk

What’s going to be the best dice for bossing 5 or 7 ?

[shut tusk]

i do 5 for phy damage, 7 is good if you're not hitting your cap

[fleet acorn]

Can you tell me which stats need to cap ?

That are my actual stats but boss atk is to high in buffed 30%

Usually boss atk is 80% the rest is unbuffed

[shut tusk]

@rose bramble can hit his cap at 31k attack, 130 PA% 120 PD%, 400% CD and 14.3m cap

i assume you dont have lvl 40 weapon or inherit/ necro?

or maybe missing some flames

[fleet acorn]

Have lv34 necro

[fleet acorn]

And BA Emblem lv3

[shut tusk]

can you show character gear inventory?

[fleet acorn]

Sure

[shut tusk]

you should be close i feel like but 100% missing lots of stats

[shut tusk]

is this with tangs too?

[fleet acorn]

No just the baby cookie chicken buff left from CRA today

[shut tusk]

dang Chilla pocket and ifia ring

[fleet acorn]

Is it bad 😅

Sorry don’t have enough sf on them

[shut tusk]

nah you're good, im still trying to find my own chilla pocket

[fleet acorn]

Ooooh

[shut tusk]

do you know what are your damage lines?

[fleet acorn]

Gimme a second and let me make a screen shot

Should I go in GD ?

[fleet acorn]

But I think it’s something around 4m…per line

[shut tusk]

yea you can

[fleet acorn]

Ok I gonna make a quick ss

Can’t join GD now

That’s in nQueen

[shut tusk]

what level are your nodes?

[fleet acorn]

I use two perftrio

And together lv35

[shut tusk]

ooo nice you're gonna get there

[fleet acorn]

Im f2p and making little steps…

[shut tusk]

i would level your nodes and use unique flames and event flames for your weapon, secondary, and shoulder to look for PA to EXP, one line should be okay for now if you're f2p

having more food buffs helps too

what level are the emblems if i may ask

[fleet acorn]

Weapons 2 row flames legendary

Top and bot phy atk to exp and shoulder phy atk to Hp

Weapon lv3 BA

Hat lv1 BA
Gloves lv1 CD
Bot lv1 PA
Cape lv2 CD
Shoes lv1 BA

[shut tusk]

oh nice

i guess your flames are good for now

[fleet acorn]

That are my flames on weapon

[shut tusk]

get your glove and cape to lvl 3 or 4 if you can

[fleet acorn]

Getting around 700phy atk just from the flames

[shut tusk]

ye that's fine

[fleet acorn]

Gloves are BD…

So should I focus on my cape

[shut tusk]

oh you typed CD

[fleet acorn]

Oh no made the gloves on my own to mythic and used a emblem scroll from event

And failed

[shut tusk]

i would level the CD emblem to 3 and 4 if you have extra traces

[fleet acorn]

I gonna use traces from the event shop and if I fuse some emblems

[shut tusk]

if you're having trouble exalting, i wouldnt mind not exalting for a while, but only exalt for the stuff that has CD on them when you can

[fleet acorn]

Thank you for the informations @shut tusk 🫶🏻

[shut tusk]

you dont need to touch the top and bottom as much if you're going to look for an outfit in the future

[fleet acorn]

It’s so hard for me to exalt and to get my gear better

Msm isn’t so f2p friendly 😂

But it’s fine to me and I enjoy playing bucc

But my dmg is trash…

[shut tusk]

yea that's totally fine, just keep working on alts and do the Elite Dungeons on them

free powders to make fodders too

[fleet acorn]

I think we just have two bucc who uses necro on Eu server

And I’m one of them

[shut tusk]

[fleet acorn]

And the other quitted I think

[shut tusk]

i think it's great you found your trios already

saves a lot of headache

and you have pretty good flames

exalting will be the biggest pain

[fleet acorn]

Also have two perftrios for farming

[shut tusk]

since you're basically starting from scratch

nice

i personally dont use the farming ones since i still one shot the AF mobs, but i'll put them in at a later time if i ever go back to leveling

[fleet acorn]

That should be the way to go for capping ?

[shut tusk]

i believe he said he's 6CD/ 1 BA. im 6CD and 2BA. i think 4CD/4BA emblems isnt bad either

[shut tusk]

as you grow your character you'll gain more stats since your nodes and emblems arent finished

[fleet acorn]

Ok thank you very much

[shut tusk]

you can get "free" stats, flames and nodes

[fleet acorn]

For free ?

[shut tusk]

other ways to improve is exalting, hyper stats, and emblem levels

[fleet acorn]

Oh ok ok i understand what you mean about for free

[shut tusk]

nodes you can basically get for free by farming and unique flames from bossing

[fleet acorn]

Yeah I understand now

[shut tusk]

yea that why i put it in quotes

[fleet acorn]

I'll keep you posted on my progress

If you want

[quiet siren]

I'm lvl 100 tho

[shut tusk]

leveling your CD gear will help a bit, i would hold off on level the BA and other emblems

[shut tusk]

oh is this for training? then Hook Bomber, Nautilus and Time Leap. if you're getting a lot of aggro and dying, take off Nautilus

[shut tusk]

up to you, i dont mind helping out if you need

[fleet acorn]

Tyvm

[quiet siren]

Yeah I'm just trying out classes

[shut tusk]

if you dont have pets, just make sure to trigger the sea serpent buff skill. i think it's like 2nd or 3rd job skill

[quiet siren]

Ark to buccaneer is it worth it?

[shut tusk]

only if you like simple, bucc is very very simple

bucc is nice overall if you want consistent damage. ark needs a lot of upkeep to maintain combo stacks and party buffs, but very strong during its burst phases which last about 60-90s

[shut tusk]

https://i.gyazo.com/8557eaa54d648605a0a5ba279a9c95ba.png

this is all i have on my alt bucc

the preset is just the all buffs bucc has

[quiet siren]

Well the only thing I don't like abt ark is that his dmg is only on his spectre form and when it runs out my dmg will decrease

Does the buccaneer in mobile have that sea serpent that circles around him?

[shut tusk]

yes when he reaches level 200

[quiet siren]

Aight kool

[haughty surge]

Generally try to work within resources,

1. Exaltation of glove, shoe, helm to 40 if possible. It is to gain more HP too to help with surviving better.

2. Emblem level for a start slowly balance it, lvl 3-4 will be good for f2p. I used to do a lot of fusing with my alt to get emblem to extract for traces in the past.

3. Flame slowly try to double line it or with the help of miyu box or whatever we can get from events.

Good thing is your weap is done that’s nice! 👍🏻👍🏻.

[shut tusk]

yep, it's always going to be a long grind.

[sturdy reef]

Wow, made that yourself, your gear is great

And you have bis hat/gloves/op/bottom so the rest won't matter much for a while

Next immediate upgrade to dps is lsw and hyper stats

SS exp jewels are nice, you'll want to prioritize lvls because they give more hyper stat points and cheap boosts to your v1/v2 skill

[fleet acorn]

Thank you

Yeah it’s all by myself. Playing msm now for about one year

[sturdy reef]

This will keep pirates banner up without you recasting it every 30 seconds

You don't need corkscrew, but it will usually position you better for nautilus

[haughty surge]

Lol mine a little different. I used corkscrew too cos I feel the distance corkscrew covered helps to pick up meso faster rather than it slowly walk and keep casting hook.

But that’s imo, most bucc skillwheel usually didn’t include hook bomber I guess.

[fleet acorn]

Can anyone tell me to focus on which hyper stats ?

[shut tusk]

FD and ADI

the third one you can save til you're stronger

those two are a must for any class

[shut tusk]

but you dont really need banner do you? it doesnt really do anything for training

[rose bramble]

For weaker players, I’d argue that +10% crit rate is real nice for training

[haughty surge]

^ gotta agree with that... and for me i changed out of my mlabel set for aesthetic purpose 😂 so it helps out haha.. even if its just a little haha.

[sturdy reef]

This, also helps map clear rate with randos

[fleet acorn]

Hey Guys any of you knowing if the v3 of bucc is being good or bad ?

It’s looking like a jump or something else…

[shut tusk]

decent for mobility and damage. I don't know the exact lines and damage from kmsm

[fleet acorn]

Hopefully good enough for bossing

[rose bramble]

I don’t think it’s used for bossing outside of dodging

[sturdy reef]

Rebalance coming, hopefully our base kit will be improved

V3 looks like a pc mobbing skill, hopefully it has iframes

[hearty wave]

Lol I’m glad I didn’t make the switch to ark 😂🤡

Yeah bucc is really tanky but I can only compare to mages

I also heard banner is a full map buff so I have it on for af but probably don’t need it if everyone’s critting

[rose bramble]

Banner is a full map buff for bucc

Everyone else needs to stand in it

[sturdy reef]

Yea, Ark needs all vskills maxed and there are no exp nodes in sight smh

I've only invested in exp equips since I came back anyways, I think I'll just get all physical pirate classes to 200 while trying to farm nodes

[hearty wave]

smart I’m in the process of making exp gear just can’t land any inherits

[sturdy reef]

I've landed 3 in a row first try, my exalt luck is horrible tho

Maybe I shouldn't even be exalting pensalir tho

[hearty wave]

Yeah debating if I should exalt the pirate gears but I have a lvl 40 cape and shoulder

Tough cuz my pirate exp gear have cd emb

Might have to exalt them 😭

[sturdy reef]

Same, figured I'd fully exalt in case I want them chaos way down the line

[hearty wave]

You can’t leap ds4 right? @shut tusk

👀 I’m at 7k for culvert

[shut tusk]

you can leap it

[shut tusk]

it's bugged rn, you need to stand in it to get the buff

the buff doesnt pop up if you're outside of it

[hearty wave]

Oh what really? I feel like it was okay in culvert but dang

Also we need a buff for lotus p1

[shut tusk]

my culvert without damage links is like 6,950 max, with links i hit around 7,450. my cap is only 18.7

[rose bramble]

wtf thats so troll

soooooooo troll

watch as our rebalance is just fixing banner

[haughty surge]

any idea usually how many PE taken if standing still and using PE for culvert? feels like trying but didnt have the feel to use PE.

so far i been using the moving around to avoid the blue and purple orbs method for culvert.

was hitting around 6.8-7k with 17.7mdc. so was thinking how far i can hit standing still using PE and ACP.

[shut tusk]

I think dodging is still beneficial because if you get stunned mid animation, sometimes the attack doesn't go through. but you also waste a lot of PE.

you just have to pray no fire on middle platform and they need to fix banner so it affects outside area too

[haughty surge]

Yea man. I didn’t realise about the banner bug till I saw u guys mentioned it. My friend did told me they didn’t receive the banner buff but I told them should have 😅 I guess we roughly knows what our rebalancing will be!

But at the same time, I’m staying positive for more lines for punch and prob more lines for our v1 skills based on previous records.

but i do knows many of the top players using the PE method hence was quite curious on average how many PEs burned for bucc users (if anyone is using.).

[hearty wave]

I feel like I don’t use too many with fair trade and right now x15 PE is going for 13m so it’s not too bad

[knotty turret]

Definitely +10% crit rate, helps way more than any of the others

[knotty turret]

Wait what? I was told that it has a very small area of effect and it’s pretty much useless apart from bossing

Anyone know which is more beneficial, enhancing my boost node slot or using my enhancement slot on Lord of the Deep? My nodes aren’t maxed, just wanted to know which is more beneficial for node farming

[rose bramble]

nah, its a full map buff. its just bugged rn

boost node for sure

[knotty turret]

Ah bugged. Expected out of nexon

[knotty turret]

Apparently bucc just got a massive buff... glad I didn't cut my gear

[haughty surge]

LOTD becomes burst dmg instead of constant dmg. finish 40 hc even if cd haven end cant use. not sure if its a good buff or not. need to play can know.

v1 more hc in total cos 90s cd even thou reduced.

naut not much diff.

sounds like minor buff only depending on how LOTD works i guess.

still pretty decent buffs

[distant trench]

lightning form orbs have faster interval too

might be big

and hit count

[haughty surge]

yea that definitely improved dmg.

the dmg will comes from our v1 skills now too. provided the boss dont move around 😂

what does repetitive interval means? i kinda confused sometimes over all these terms lol.

[distant trench]

i believe its the time between the lines

so if you used to do 3 lines every second

its 3 lines every 0.5 second

for 50% interval diff

so now its 14 hc every 0.25 seconds

sounds insane lol

almost another naut adi

[knotty turret]

Does this mean LOTD won't be as good for mobbing now?

[haughty surge]

more for bossing

cos its burst dmg now

not constant dmg

[knotty turret]

mobbing/farming? because more targets = more attack counts, so it'll expire really quickly when farming..

[distant trench]

well if the map being full cleared often, it might actually stay on for a while

[haughty surge]

icic. the v1 skills sounds alot better.

[knotty turret]

Oh good point

But 40 hits would be reduced to like 13 if there's 3 mobs

[distant trench]

well the orbs are only 6 seconds now, so need to test still

[haughty surge]

LOTD shouldnt be too bad. prob good for burst.

[distant trench]

wait how

[haughty surge]

i feel more HC overall considering can throw 6 orbs now.

[distant trench]

i think max attack account is number of times the 20 lines can proc?

3 mobs would only reduce from 40 -> 37 lol

[haughty surge]

i interpret as this

[knotty turret]

As in, 13 attacks? because more mobs

[haughty surge]

thats why i say more for bossing.

[distant trench]

but u said 3 mob

3 targets. each gets hit 20 times

[haughty surge]

is 60

lol

[distant trench]

still only 3 attack count

[knotty turret]

counts as 3 attacks right?

[distant trench]

37 attack count left on LOTD

i assume so

otherwise LOTD lasts 2 attacks of 20 lines?

[knotty turret]

Attack count would get used up really fast when mobbing then

[distant trench]

well if u one shot

np

[knotty turret]

It feels like a buff overall tbh

[haughty surge]

i hope its not nexon english error... hopefully its that way based on attack count instead of "40 hc" if not shag LOL.

[knotty turret]

20 lines is quite nuts

[knotty turret]

lmao 40 hc would be shit

gotta be attack counts

[distant trench]

is it 6 orbs now?

[haughty surge]

cd is 90s.. lol.

3 orbs 90s. 6 orbs 180s ?

[knotty turret]

6 orbs in same timeframe as 3 orbs before

because CD is halved

[haughty surge]

last time 180s 3 orbs

[distant trench]

o right

[haughty surge]

overall is a buff

bossing definitely better overall.

[distant trench]

before 840 lines after 2016 lines

[haughty surge]

it kinda becomes abit like DB with their dmg burst for LOTD.

[distant trench]

idk how to count LOTD, but no way can 3 hits compare to 20 even with attack cap lol

[haughty surge]

anyway as long it helps the team for bossing all is good lol.

[lime haven]

Wow the buff is so sick

LOTD 20 hits x 40 attack counts is actually insane

[haughty surge]

becomes like DB burst dmg

lol

alot classses rebalancing added lines also. bossing will be alot easier now suddenly lol.

[distant trench]

well big ADI hyper stat nerf

so maybe not

[haughty surge]

prob the main skills cover for that back i guess.

haha

there are some classes kinda remains the same after rebalancing. but i believe it probably helps out alot of lotus team atm.

[mental shale]

800 lines for V2

🫡

[haughty surge]

i hope they fixed back our pirate flag buff too. it is supposed to be a full map buff but they revert back to the "old" pirate flag when it first launched.

[knotty turret]

It’s decent but I don’t feel like it’s anything groundbreaking

[mental shale]

Its more like a step in the right direction

[knotty turret]

Definitely

[mental shale]

The intend is more towards bossing

In a f2p perspective, it might be abit underwhelming

[knotty turret]

It’ll be cool to see 20 lines from LOTD though

[mental shale]

Although im not sure how fast lotd will use up its hit count inside AF or SF

[knotty turret]

Kinda excited to see how it’ll play out

[mental shale]

This patch is quite clear cut

[knotty turret]

Very very fast for sure

[mental shale]

They are bridging the dps gap between meta and non meta classes now

Its becoming similar to Kmsm

[knotty turret]

These patch notes were surprisingly juicy

Not disappointing like they usually are

Probably disappointing to phantoms though

[mental shale]

Eventually their intent is that there will not be any requirement to include meta classes inside boss runs

Meaning is less meta dependent and more gear dependent

Kmsm is moving in this direction

Global from this May patch is showing they are following Kmsm and is making this an absolute priority now

[knotty turret]

They’ve got something against phantoms though, phantoms got nerfed on explorer remastered and now again with Sancro and nautilus nerf

[mental shale]

I dont think its some agenda

On maple pc the recent changes are quite obvious for phantoms who follows the revamps over there

Its now slowly coming over to mobile

[shut tusk]

bucc burst is now pretty good, im very surprised that we even got a 90s cooldown change to Lightning Form, help out on the second part of lotus so we're not moving around as much

[shut tusk]

idk what Lord of the Deep's hit count repetition is but if it was .5 interval with 3 hit count in a 60s duration, it would be 360 hits. but now it's 800 hit count

Lightning Form at level 1 went from 10 hit count at a .5 interval for 9s with 3 orbs which is 540 hits to 14 hit count at .25 interval for 3 seconds but twice now for 1008 hit counts.

At level 25 Lightning Form, it went from 840 hits to 2016 hits.

i think that's how the math works out, someone can correct me if im wrong

[hearty wave]

Doesn’t that mean we get 6 i frames instead of 3 in the same time span?

[shut tusk]

yup

[hearty wave]

That’s pretty helpful for phase 1

[night zephyr]

It's the same as those hold down skills. Phantom Bowman etc. Once those counts are up the skill ends.

[shut tusk]

i mean before the patch, im not talking about the hit attack count, im talking about the frequency

[night zephyr]

Lord of the deep will surely use up 40 hits before 60 seconds

[night zephyr]

Oh ok

[shut tusk]

mainly about this, but for Lord of the Deep

• [Energy Orb] Repetition interval decreased by 50% (0.5 sec → 0.25 sec)

i dont think it was ever mentioned anywhere

[night zephyr]

Interval between the time you can use the orbs? Does that mean I frame decreases by 50% as well?

[shut tusk]

no this is the attack of the orb when you summon it

it'll do 14 lines every .25 seconds for x amount of duration

[night zephyr]

Ok

Sounds like a buff then

[shut tusk]

yea

i just wanted to know LotD attacking frequency. if it's .25 or .5 rate, it's still a buff regardless of what happens

[night zephyr]

I kinda wish it gained a use count back. Like cannoneer

[shut tusk]

nah ours is 100% helpful for damage and iframe, i would take an iframe over countback

we need all the survivability we can as bucc especially for lotus and damien

[knotty turret]

Lotd attack frequency feels more like 0.25

[knotty turret]

…

[knotty turret]

“Just get better gear“

[shut tusk]

let me know when you reach those points in the game and you'll understand then

it's a reference for more iframes rather than lack of gear

[past fable]

[haughty thicket]

20% overall increase

To be honest, the strength of bucc is still not much improved

[shut tusk]

yea it's not bad, probably go from 9th to 7th in lotus

[distant trench]

dang whats missing for bucc

[rose bramble]

Hmm more lines probably in octo

[distant trench]

but octopunch should be 8

[rose bramble]

Maybe better time leap

[distant trench]

is octo

wait pc octo has 10 hits wtf

[rose bramble]

True but I miss my octodexapunch

Oh really? Well idk

[shut tusk]

octo used to have 17 before remaster

for mobile that is

[distant trench]

o shit lol

hm does it have now then

[shut tusk]

nope

[distant trench]

how much does it have now Xd

[rose bramble]

13?

dang my lotd only lasts like 10 seconds

they fixed banner tho

[supple flint]

Anyone knows which levels lotd increases in duration ?

[rose bramble]

it doesnt

[supple flint]

wait isn't it 60 seconds at max lvl ?

with 60 sec cd ?

i'm at lvl 10 and it's 50 sec

[rose bramble]

oh prob every 5 levels its 2 second then or something

mines 6 at 48 sec

[distant trench]

whats buccs guild dungeon score now

jw

[knotty turret]

Just tested it out, new lord of the deep is nuts

[knotty turret]

Just jesting

[knotty turret]

Lasts about 10 seconds in a full AF field, but probably longer if you’re stronger. Overall definitely a massive improvement than before

[knotty turret]

Around 45 seconds here, Level 1

I think .5 per level probably

[haughty surge]

I mean it’s still a pretty decent buff to bucc. So far with every rebalancing it’s always an improvement for bucc (esp when compared with other classes) so I take it happily. Haha.

Like what rubedo said, it’s a step in a right direction.

Just have to know the mechanic behind using v2 is different compared to before. Shouldn’t be too hard to changed alittle of our playstyle for those whos focus is on bossing like me haha.

With the additional iframe, it helps out more at p1 for lotus. And the new burst dmg from v2 definitely will be good for p2 and p3.

[night zephyr]

Lord of the deep end fast

[haughty surge]

It’s a burst dmg now instead of consistent dmg. Personally I feel these type is good for bossing.

For AB wise, if build correctly, technically hook bomber should hv clear the mob 😂 the range of hook bomber is vv wide too which I like compared to the old blast

[night zephyr]

I guess

[shut tusk]

https://i.gyazo.com/46fb3515a821d4e56f5d254558bbaee5.png

IED rate for lvl 5 LotD

https://i.gyazo.com/e80bb2a7885b5f51bc435d1fc7567d0f.png

IED rate for lvl 15 LF

[haughty surge]

Just random test lol cemp minus hp vv fast 😂

This for v1

The lines looks satisfying lol

[knotty turret]

Yeah LOTD was a serious upgrade

Enjoying the 20 lines

[sturdy reef]

Lotd doing more damage than spirit bomb

[shut tusk]

seriously

[shut tusk]

may I ask what's your v1 lvl is? must be slightly low level since it doesn't last as long

[rose bramble]

are you guys putting lotd on pet or using manual

[knotty turret]

If skill level is high i think pet makes sense, the attack count doesn’t get used up until it actually starts hitting

This LOTD update is pretty fucking epic

[rose bramble]

uhh even if it doesnt get used up its on a 60 second timer

i think for training its kinda overkill?

[knotty turret]

If you’re 1 hitting, you get about 40 mob kills with it before you hit the attack count limit

[rose bramble]

the real point im trying to convey is not about mob kills but more about convenience

since hook bomber 1 shots pretty much everything for me lotd isnt really necessary

by manually activating lotd u can better time your burst/having burst not randomly be down

similar argument is you could put lightning form on pet for 12% final dmg buff for training

[knotty turret]

Guess one extra button can’t hurt, anyway it’s just about octopunch

But if you leave on pet you maximise uptime

Since cd starts as soon as it’s pressed

[haughty surge]

Yea didn’t really focus on v1. It’s at lvl 15 only. My v2 is at lvl 23.

Was planning to start on v1 once my v2 hits lvl25

Didn’t really start on v1 first in the past cos I feel that extra few sec of being in super saiyan mode doesn’t help as much as having higher v2 lvl to incease the dmg since it doesn’t have “FD” in its nodes like the tricore.

[haughty surge]

The diff in lvl for v1 v2 plays a part. My v2 has a higher lvl as I felt it is one of my main source of consistent attack. So definitely my v2 will seems to have more dmg hahaha

[haughty surge]

I separated them. So that once boss started I can used it. Not much diff to me in AB since I quite chill in leveling my char. Don’t find a point to rush and burn out myself in the game haha. And my focus usually more on bossing.

And hook still 1-shot the mobs. So can make do without lotd on pet.

[supple flint]

What's the cooldown for v2 23 ?

[haughty surge]

i think should be 60s for v2.

[knotty turret]

New V2 is so much better

[shut tusk]

oh dang i didnt know duration increases too

i guess it doesnt really matter since it always has a max attack count anyways

stronger IED is better too

[knotty turret]

Yeah, you’ll definitely hit 40 attacks before the duration is over even at Level 1

[night zephyr]

My bucc literally does the same damage. Personally I don't think anything changed significantly

[supple flint]

Definitely increase in dmg though

Before and after update

[haughty surge]

i think the difference will comes in with higher lvl of v1 and v2.

[shut tusk]

https://i.gyazo.com/162bf3757f349205a1ce30a12e83e1af.jpg

should get more than 8k im at 18.7m cap

[knotty turret]

What’s your LOTD level?

[shut tusk]

lvl 5

LF is 15

i posted it above

[knotty turret]

Interesting

Your damage hasn’t improved post patch?

[shut tusk]

no it has, culvert upgraded a lot from 6.8-7.4k to 7.9-8.2k would probably be my highest if i BR

i can get higher if i were to level them up more

[rose bramble]

sheesh, with doesun's cap ez 8k

[haughty surge]

Maybe now coolbean can say 700m gd 🤣

[shut tusk]

timings are weird, but i have to get used to it

LotD can finish within 15s time frame of DS4 which is nice

[rose bramble]

i assume u save orbs and lotd for when ds4 procs or u just fire it off cd?

[shut tusk]

yup

i used LotD after the first DS4 proc as an early boost to get past stage 4/5

and timed everything with DS4

[ancient scarab]

Nice. I did 8500 pretty sure I can do over 9k if I try to optimize with lotd,orbs, ds1/ds4 swap.

[shut tusk]

you crazy trying for ds1/ds4 swap haha

ran lotus with JustANub yesterday, he went from 7-8th to 5th so good improvement there

[ancient scarab]

It’s not that hard

[rose bramble]

Can someone confirm whether we need to cast nautilus to get our adi lines?

I tested using hook bomber w/o naut in gd and got 4 lines per hit

But naut + hook bomber I was getting much more lines per hit (prob 8)

[shut tusk]

bucc can definitely score higher than 9k. I reran and got 8.8k. forgot to ss tho

I believe bucc can get around 9.5-10k with maxed v skills at 18.7m cap

[haughty surge]

no need. but its weird sometimes and i dont know how to explain lol. without casting naut. somemtimes 1 line sometimes 5 lines.

im using the skill with 1 hc.

but the 2nd target which i hit has many lines came out. 🙄

[rose bramble]

Hmmm

Yeah it’s hard to say, but maybe it’s your adi hyper stats if you have that

I did a whole gd only hitting 4 lines on hook bomber w/o nautilus cast which made me concerned

[shut tusk]

yea the adi for naut probably just hiding behind all those lines anyways. it's really hard to tell even if i rewatch it

[rose bramble]

I guess ima just cast it to be safe

[hearty wave]

anyone else have issues with LOTD making your character go "resting" during ab?

is it better to turn off LOTD in case my party forgets to put resting on lol

[rose bramble]

I have seen it a few times

I do think lotd is a bit over kill in training and it probably is better to manual lotd now, so you could probably save the effort of adding and removing it from pets

Sometimes I get restricted meso gain because of lotd

[shut tusk]

yea it does that since LOTD does kill but doesnt make you "attack" which puts you in resting mode. i think @ancient scarab posted about it before

[ancient scarab]

Yea I posted again today @hearty wave

@shut tusk @hearty wave go say something in feedback

[shut tusk]

I did before. I've gotten the same response that it was intended. if only our AB recognized to just hit the damn mob in front of us, it would be very convenient

[past fable]

hey i was in your 170 last night, resting came up every few mins

its real bad

lmao

[hearty wave]

probably could hit 10k

18.3m cap

@ancient scarab @shut tusk

no br

[shut tusk]

niceeee

[hearty wave]

I manualed v1 and v2 whenever ds4 was up like what @rose bramble said

I also cast v2 right before it started so i can have another cycle of v2

my ghb score for multi dropped

if v1 was a 60 second cooldown it wouldve been nice

be able to cast 2 sets of orbs but stuck with only 1 set cuz of cd

i guess technically you could have 2 sets of orbs for ghb/gd but its cutting it really close

[shut tusk]

what level is your v1 and v2 @hearty wave

[hearty wave]

23 and 20

[shut tusk]

ooo i need more level on v1

i just did 9300

[hearty wave]

Yeah I’ve been focusing on v1 a lot I just wish I was faster with my all cures lol

Feels like I could’ve definitely hit higher

[knotty turret]

Unfortunate side effect of LOTD revamp is I’m dying at AF90 now

[cursive haven]

Damn if an 18m cap Bucc could hit nearly 10k

Imagine a Bucc with 20m+

Imma sure they will be hitting ard 12 to 13k

[rose bramble]

hmmm prob 11k?

doesun just hit 10.1k but told me he could do more

[shut tusk]

maxed V skills should do more than 10k

with his cap

[ancient scarab]

I can do better. I got stunned like 5 times and died once when I scored 10.1

[fleet acorn]

Hey boys, what will help me to increase my culvert score ? Is it all nodes ?

My octopunch is above lv40

[shut tusk]

all trios max level

[fleet acorn]

No not yet…

[shut tusk]

since you're f2p, defense smash 4 (DS4) probably doesnt matter to you as much

[fleet acorn]

Is there anything else than nodes I should focus on

[shut tusk]

have fair trade on, use lord of the deep and lightning form when you reach stage 4

have hero's will used when you enter stage 6

and then use all your orbs on stage 6

then use LotD and LF when they're back up

[fleet acorn]

What’s LF ?

[shut tusk]

lightning form

[fleet acorn]

Ah okok

[shut tusk]

you can get decent nodes depending on your level

[fleet acorn]

Im atm lv 207

[shut tusk]

i would get decent Sharp Eyes/ Combat Orders and Advance Blessing in that order if you can fit it into your matrix

if you want to do something other than nodes, your best bet would be to exalt your armors or find more emblems and level them to 3 or 4

[fleet acorn]

Thank you

[shut tusk]

also if you haven't finished your link skills, you should do those as well

[fleet acorn]

Which link Skills are the most important ones ?

[shut tusk]

https://cdn-longterm.mee6.xyz/plugins/embeds/images/413046906638565395/7015a0648fb9febe878e725181ff15a8c39403be08911e947f4abb07ec42aa17.png

Explorer Warrior for Boss ATK
Explorer Pirates for Final Damage
Explorer Thieves for PHY ATK
Explorer Archers for Crit DMG
Evan and Demon Slayer for Boss ATK
Sia and Xenon for Final mg
Demon Avenger for PHY DMG
Kinesis, Phantom and Ark for Crit DMG

[haughty surge]

Use those free Fevers at stage6 too

[hearty wave]

We might want to try running culvert again, think there was an IED glitch

Our scores might drop but needs confirmation

[shut tusk]

yea our score is supposed to be lower

back to 7.7 now

should still be around 8k tho

[supple flint]

What did the glitch do ?

[hearty wave]

Extra damage I think

[shut tusk]

not bad, placed 2nd in lotus today

[past fable]

op

[shut tusk]

[rose bramble]

Damn op!

[knotty turret]

Is pirates banner fixed?

[hearty wave]

7 minute lotus nice

[knotty turret]

Anyone? If it is then I’ll craft so that i get more efficient AB

Also, does pirates banner stack with sharp eyes?

[supple flint]

Yes and yes

[grim tapir]

What hyper passives do buccs go?

[knotty turret]

Thanks mate

[knotty turret]

I meant fixed as in it works across the whole map for bucc right

[rose bramble]

all octo, crossbones BA and PA i think

[supple flint]

Yea they fixed it during the rework patch

[supple flint]

Crit dmg probably a better choice now.

Over PA

[knotty turret]

Awesome, thanks

Bucc looking more and more enticing to me day by day

[rose bramble]

Hmm idk, I entered my stats in to dmg calculator and I do more dmg with PA full buff or not and sf or bossing

Maybe with your stats it might be different?

[haughty surge]

I think CD too. PA was good during the times when u can’t full crit all the way due to how crit is being calculated as it boost uncrit lines. That’s assuming u crit every lines with fair trade.

Lol I don’t really use dmg calculator, i based on whether am I able to push to cap from playing (basically I based on feelings lol.)

For pirate flags, yes they fixed it tgt with the new rebalancing. All is good now

[rose bramble]

hmm well i dont think ima be rerolling it since 15% crit dmg isnt gonna be that impactful

20% PA is pretty significant

[shut tusk]

they're both the same % and it's PD not PA i think. sometimes I like to think there's non crit lines I'm not looking at especially if it's something like ADI lines I know I may not be capping. I know I'll always be capping on our main skills like Octo, LotD, Orbs and Serpant summon.

[haughty surge]

I think he referring to the hyper stats. Where crossbone can choose between 20PA% and 15CD%. But cd might help out with increasing the adi dmg. Small difference only thou if u ask me.

Personally I went for cd cos for other bossing nowadays I don’t really buff and I find cd more helpful haha.

But I think after buffed up both are about the same. Main agenda is main skills are able to cap 💪🏻.

[shut tusk]

oh oops i didnt see the convo above. CD probably good too since it helps outside of bossing too

[ancient scarab]

i did 9300 last night can probably still hit 10k

didnt ds swap or tank fire

[fleet acorn]

Amazing

[ruby plinth]

Wow whats your mdc?

[knotty turret]

Amazing, looks like recent buff was pretty significant

[fleet acorn]

Wow 🤩

[cursive haven]

Wow

That’s 40%+ increase?

The last I saw in this thread your GD was just around the low 700m

700m to 1.024b is actually a 46% increase

Huge buff

[knotty turret]

The 3 extra orbs in the same timeframe seem like pretty big boost

[haughty surge]

?

its the v2 thats the big boost. not the 3 orbs lol. its still 90s cd for the orbs.

unlesss you time it earlier to cast v1 and wait awhile before starting, should be able cast 6 orbs. but mainly the dmg boost comes from the v2 burst.

one way to maximise v2 also would be to wait for the cd of v2 till around 30s. and start entering gd/ghb so that once the first round of v2 ended there is enough time for a 2nd round of v2 skill.

[fleet acorn]

So should I maximise v2 before v1 ?

[shut tusk]

v1 over v2 because at max level the orbs are 6 seconds instead of 3 seconds at lvl1

nothing changes about v2 except the IED gained per 5 levels I think

[knotty turret]

Skill damage?

[shut tusk]

skill damage doesn't matter if we already cap

[knotty turret]

True

[shut tusk]

we're going in there full buffed

[fleet acorn]

V1 also better for culvert ?

And from which lv I get more than 3 Orbs ?

[shut tusk]

you always have three orbs

but you can cast v1 twice in culvert and v2 three times

I still say v1 is better

[fleet acorn]

Yeah I noticed that

I thought v2 is better dps wise

So first focus on V1 ok thank you @shut tusk 🫶🏻

[shut tusk]

the duration of the orb is pretty important since v2 will always be the same amount of lines

[fleet acorn]

V2 just increased by duration right ?

[shut tusk]

increased duration but the hit count doesnt change. once it uses all those hit counts, it goes away. good for AF for 100% uptime, not so much for bossing except for more IED

essentially if you do max v2, you can use it 4 times in culvert instead of 3. you can cheese v2 and go in when v2 is like 20s cooldown left

i dont know if they remove the buff tho, i havent really tested it since mine is not maxed

[fleet acorn]

Bro you’ve studied bucc 😂🫶🏻

[shut tusk]

trying to make the most use of our new burst

hoping for next month to be class nodes so i can max v1 and v2

then july will be v3

[fleet acorn]

Im still at the beginning

My actual v matrix 🙄

But after I maxed my trios I gonna purchase some hyper stats

But also have 5 trash nodes between lv10-12

Preparing them for extraction for my V skills

[shut tusk]

you'll get there evenutally

[fleet acorn]

I Hope so

[haughty surge]

very dependent on your gear i guess. I focus on v2 last time was becos v2 is on all the time before the rebalancing and I was leveling it up so that it can reach closer to cap. Didnt really like how V1 works last time due to the cd timing of 3min.

but now due to the lower cd timing, and since i hit my target of lvl 20 above for v2, im slowly building up my v1. currently v1 at lvl18 and v2 at lvl23. good to balance both for a start.

for your gear v matrix I will prefer to get a mix and match to get the 3 core skills to lvl 60 first be it any combination (esp for octopunch). the dmg increment is alot from lvl40 to lvl60.

v1 and v2 can do after the tricore is settled.. as v1/v2 require alot more shards to level them up comparing to leveling your tricores.

[fleet acorn]

Yeah I’ll first max my both trios and after I gonna focus on the two v skills

[knotty turret]

No loaded dice?

[left pulsar]

What trios perfect?

[fleet acorn]

No not yet…

But should be one of the next nodes I gonna craft

[knotty turret]

I love this skill

Can choose between so many good permanent buffs

I always choose +10% crit rate, feel like it helps the most

[fleet acorn]

I often looking for CD…

That helps me to reach my max in GD

[fleet acorn]

For me atm CD helps more than PD

[knotty turret]

For AF fields

[past fable]

PD / MD goat

[hearty wave]

EXP / PEXP goat

[ancient scarab]

Can’t do much more than this.

[fleet acorn]

Can I ask you for your preset skill ?

[shut tusk]

[wet harness]

bucc so op now

[cursive haven]

This is done with 19.7m mdc?

I'm looking back at your older comments, if its still the same mdc then my god Bucc 1 min potential is similar to that of an Ark

Meaning you will be doing a similar gd score to @wet harness with the same mdc cap as him. 25++

[cursive haven]

@haughty thicket

[onyx parcel]

Lmao, i still remember just barely a month ago Buccs were dissed as worst pirate class. Now look at them after one major rebalance from May patch

This patch is really a means to push all those classes in the C, D and E Tier on @haughty thicket dps list into A, S, SS and prolly God Tier

Bye bye meta classes. Soon all classes will be generalised as just classes. No more meta bullshit just like how they are doing now in Kmsm.

[haughty surge]

End of day it’s still a team effort to clear bossing tgt. Always look to improve our gears for better contribution 😄

[haughty surge]

Actually every rebalancing nexon always been improving bucc. Bucc probably been through more than 5 times rebalancing if I recall haha. Those that start off when bucc was launched surely will agree with me haha. Just that the buff we got are always slight minor buffs.

Thanks to lotus (or harder commander bosses in future) nexon are slowly making different chars stronger to catch up with the already op classes. At least now u see more ppl passing lotus. It’s a good progression for many.

Lol the best part now is can solo HRA with just fairtrade and maybe chick buff at a much faster timing 😂

[shut tusk]

bucc always randomly gets buffed, it's not like we ask for it either so it's nice when we do get it

[knotty turret]

Was definitely quite a decent buff, I'm getting more nodes in AF fields now

[ancient scarab]

21.4

[ancient scarab]

octo and summon

[supple flint]

Should I replace the serpent assault with hook Bomber so it’s 60 ?

[rose bramble]

Sure if you want to

Hook bomber is our main mobbing skill anyway

You could also have nodes you train with and nodes you boss with so your skills are as high as possible

[haughty surge]

also can. what you are doing was what i did last time before remaster.. 4 nodes can max out 4 different skills at lvl 60. but generally hook bomber lvl 40 above should be quite good enough for mobbing.

[supple flint]

Ok, so the mobs at AF 120/160 aren't much tougher than those at SF194 right ?

Because the serpent assault doesn't deal enough damage even at level 20 lol

[shut tusk]

i dont think so, but your LotD should protect you most of the time, you only have a few seconds of down time.

burst is the longer serpent that comes out and assault is the big AoE one. they come in intervals so i dont think it matters that much. idk how geared you are but you dont always have to one shot the mobs, usually nautilus will sometimes finish them off

[hearty wave]

3 nodes spots land me all skills lvl 60 but hook bomber

And none for corkscrew since we don’t use that skill for anything

Ideally think this is the most efficient way for end game buccs 🤷‍♂️

[rose bramble]

Oh I just swap out my triodes when bossing and farming

I imagine having V3, V4 and Overdrive take up a lot of slots unless super high level

[haughty surge]

i dont think need to max out sea serpent burst as it doesnt activate by Octopunch and not used for bossing since it shared the same cd as sea serpent raging (which is activated by octopunch). I think for those who swap their gears for exp, wil be good to level up hook bomber as our dmg numbers will drop quite alot.

i used to do the same as sundaymorning haha but got lazy. but eventually boils down to how fast we feel we are killing mobs during ab.

lucky thing is bucc doesnt really needs alot of slots 😂 but what I did was used the enhancement points on my other nodes (non tricore) to increase the slight PA%.

[supple flint]

Yea the reason I do 4 20s is because I rather use the slot enhancements on the V skills first. Although I imagine at a much later point in the game when the slot enhancement have been maxed out in available V skill slots I would go for 2 or 3 30s instead to maximize decent buffs slots

[knotty turret]

what's overdrive?

[knotty turret]

I don't know why corkscrew is even included in the perfect trio? Was someone trolling me with that?

[supple flint]

for mobbing

[knotty turret]

does anyone use it?

[supple flint]

No idea, it's optimal in the sense that you max all your skills you use

It's 4 core 6 skills

Corkscrew is probably the most non-essential one but it's still used

[shut tusk]

i've said it multiple times corkscrew isnt needed but in the end you might as well have it if you want to be efficient with your nodes so you have a bossing and mobbing trio

like why do you want to have 4 nodes with nautilus it in? it's not gonna go to 240% FD. it's stuck at 120% no matter what

[knotty turret]

makes a lot more sense to me now

[fleet acorn]

Hey anyone can tell if it’s worth to lv this perftrio for the higher af maps ? Or are you guys just using octopunch for farming too ?

I’m atm lv209

[shut tusk]

i dont use any mobbing trios for AF120/160 and still do fine. you can level it if you'd like when you open nodes if you haven't finished your bossing boost nodes

[fleet acorn]

Ok thank you so, I can extract that node and use octopunch later for farming

[shut tusk]

i dont use octopunch for farming

i still use hook bomber, nautilus and LotD

i'd still keep it because finding that trio again might be annoying for future levels

[fleet acorn]

Ok thank you @shut tusk 🙏🏻

[devout grove]

Any Buccaneers planning on Maxing their V3? Let me know~~ Need your help on my next video~

[hearty wave]

I just maxed my v1 😂 don’t even know our v3 lowkey

[devout grove]

A bit similar to Shawdower’s V1, can dash around~

[haughty surge]

Make it an iframe dashing v3. Would be perfect hahahaa. 😂

[knotty turret]

Just hoping it can be used during AB otherwise would be useless to me

[fleet acorn]

Don’t think it can be used during AB…

[knotty turret]

https://tenor.com/view/reviewbrah-thereportoftheweek-disappointment-my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-gif-18455302

[fleet acorn]

😂😂😂😂

[supple flint]

Isn't our V3 a mobbing skill though

at least in PC it is lol

I just use it for dashing in maps with V2

[hearty wave]

Wow yeah what’s the point in buccs v3 if it can’t be used in ab

[supple flint]

An actual dmg dash to use in boss ?

Maybe there’s I-frame

Just pray 😂

[knotty turret]

Another buff to bucc

2 extra hits on octopunch

[magic escarp]

hi should i max my v1 first or v2 better ?

[rose bramble]

V1

[knotty turret]

I think if not hitting cap V2 would be better?

[shut tusk]

no because V2's damage does not increase by a significant margin than V1 does

V1's damage output scales much better as you level it

Lightning Form's orb duration increases by 3 extra seconds once maxed out, basically doubling it's output since lvl 1 it's only 3 seconds

[rose bramble]

my V3 cannot dodge laser T_T

but it does like 10% of my dmg

i think in bossing its meant to be woven in with octo

[supple flint]

What’s v3 stats

I opened 60 nodes and didn’t get Bucc V3 lol

Maybe it’s a blessing lmao

Idk doesn’t seem to be a significant boost lol maybe it’s really a level issue

[rose bramble]

i just crafted bc i had extra shards

uhh its pretty good for bossing imo

46 lines per charge and it charges very fast

its just a bit clunky and slightly slow

mines like 196% skill dmg at lvl 6

V3 is ABable but no mobility part

it consumes a lot of MP though, so you would need to equip MP pots on bucc now

[supple flint]

Yea I don’t think I will use it to ab

I mean I’ll test it today to see if it’s still pot positive

But it does drain a lot lol

[rose bramble]

it is not pot positive LOL

[supple flint]

Overdrive at lower lvls is just worse DCO 😂

[rose bramble]

Our V3 is pretty good diagonally, just clunky horizontally

also its super sensitive, i wasn't even touching my arrow pads and i dashed with V3

[knotty turret]

THANK YOU FOR THIS

Needed this exact info

Gonna go extract my V1 now

[supple flint]

Why lol

[knotty turret]

Okay maybe that's a stupid move so I'll just transfer the last of my nodes from all characters

[supple flint]

Just farm nodes to open/craft v3

The skill doesn’t dash in AB

It just deals dmg

[knotty turret]

That's still useful

I just got pirates banner too and apparently it's ABable

[haughty surge]

For v1 and v2 I personally will wanna be able to cap v2 after buffing and after that start doing v1.

For my style I try to balance both v1 and v2 lvl 5 lvl at a time. But see which u are comfortable with. The fd boost from v1 helps out v2 dmg output too.

I haven really look into what this latest patch bring to us. Wasn’t feeling vv well for the past few days. But good to see got a slight buff to bucc again 💪🏻

[knotty turret]

Holy fucking shit this skill is AMAZING

[supple flint]

It’s ok lol

Kind of weird to use it in between octopunch though

Since it slows down charging up serpent skills

[knotty turret]

What are you talking about bruh

Look at that hit count

[supple flint]

Yea but it has a short delay so you have to put it in with octo

And the serpent skill already had the issue of spawning after 5 hits so now it gets even worse to time it lol

Bosses moving already sucks 😂

[knotty turret]

Oh for Bossing

This is insane for mobbing dude

Like I generally shit on bucc but I'm absolutely loving this skill

The animation, cooldown, everything

[rose bramble]

hmm it's okay, its kinda costly

[knotty turret]

Also, is pirates banner worth leveling?

[supple flint]

It’s not that important

But definitely worth leveling

It’s a party buff

[knotty turret]

Aight

I never expected for bucc V3 to be this good

I'll send a screen recording when I get on later, you can basically spam this skill by putting it in a preset. Complete map clears

[supple flint]

They probably realized it’s a pure mobbing skil

So they gave it 46 lines instead 😂

[haughty surge]

Haven really tested it but if the short delay is really short, it’s quite usable in bossing considering it’s 46 lines. But prob need to repostion or turn back abit to hit the boss.

U all put in skill slot able to activate v3 when ab-ing?

[supple flint]

Yea

It has good range

Longer than hook Bomber lol

[supple flint]

Yea it’s 0.5 sec cd and 4sec per charge so basically we have to go back and forth between octo and v3 to maximize dmg

[rose bramble]

V3 i think is great for lotus cuz it basically hits full map

[hearty wave]

cant i just press the button without directional key?

it casts the skill havent tested if it attacks even though i didnt dash

[supple flint]

Yea you can

[hearty wave]

okay nice was able to break 1b gd with v3

[knotty turret]

Absolutely put it on skill wheel, huge range

You guys will most certainly one hit with this, so it'll be way better than this

[magic escarp]

may i know what is ABable pls @@

[knotty turret]

Can use during AB

See video above

[magic escarp]

AB is auto battle is it

lolll

thank you bro

[haughty surge]

If can attack without moving will be better lol. More dps hahaha.

[knotty turret]

You can do that if you don't press direction key, check the video I sent

[haughty surge]

[rose bramble]

I wish our V3 can be like arks dash

That would be perfect

[haughty surge]

any feedback on overdrive?

[summer girder]

Overdrive seems weird

16 sec buff and 44 secs of debuff at lvl 1

[knotty turret]

Overdrive seems trash

[magic escarp]

its good for v1 v2 if your octopunch hit max damage

[summer girder]

Overdrive seems like actual trash at lvl 1 atleast

I get like 10% extra phy dmg during the buff

When its on cd its -40% phy dmg

[rose bramble]

Well i guess I’ll just remove it from my v matrix lol

[knotty turret]

Yeah like TF is -40%. Can't see any use case for having this at level 1

[knotty turret]

I honestly like it more the way it is, the only change would be to have it actually dash when ABing but Shadower has a similar skill and that has the same mechanic as this

I prefer this way more.. it's such a powerful attack and can just spam it when ABing, clearing a lot more area than hook bomber can

[night zephyr]

So it works in ab since u are happy 😁

[knotty turret]

I think works would be an understatement, it has improved bucc mobbing like crazy in my opinion

[night zephyr]

Cool. I need to test it out after I hunt for some nodes

[supple flint]

Doesn’t seem that good

I saw the max lvl stats and it would give like 24% for lvl 40 Necro ? Lol

The de buff is negligible though

Definitely just equip DCO before lvl 20 ish

[night zephyr]

The warriors have 3 seconds of invincibility

And a passive

[supple flint]

Even after idk if it’s more worth it than DCO since you have to manage it and time your boost with your burst skills

[supple flint]

Yea we got the worst common skill lol

[night zephyr]

I frame is always good

So I don't mind

[supple flint]

Maybe it’s calculated with lvl 60 abso weapon stats 😂

That’s why the scaling is so bad

[night zephyr]

But for pirates the trade off seems weird

they said extra v matrix slots is that when you get to the lvl required you are able to see it?

[supple flint]

There’s a 2nd page now

You should have 18 slots

[haughty surge]

lol i thinks pretty bad the overdrive skill. dont think i be using it jus for that 15s.

i would rather level up the other v skills instead.

[supple flint]

Yea even at max lvl it’s 30 sec with 60 sec cd

And you get 20+% PD depending on your weapon

[haughty surge]

the debuff is actually quite a turn off.

[supple flint]

The de buff is ok at max lvl

You get reduced by 4%

But at low to mid lvl the skills is just bad lol

[haughty surge]

but on a side note, still good to use for a final burst at culvert stage 6 (the last 15 to 30s). other den that... dont really see the usefulness of it

[supple flint]

Warriors get 15% boost straight 😂

[haughty surge]

give and take i guess. some chars v3 skills and so on not really for attacking also.

[knotty turret]

Can anyone try AB wheel where it's just nautilus hook bomber and a preset of serpent vortex * 4? I think might be a lot better than just hook bomber

[rose bramble]

why dont you do it

[shut tusk]

[knotty turret]

I'm not strong enough to 1 hit

[shut tusk]

did you really just ask that if you already have the skill?

[knotty turret]

I'm using it and it's pretty awesome, wanted to get perspective from stronger buccs

Since this has the largest AOE and target count out of all our skills

[summer girder]

Heres my skill wheel

You are welcome

[knotty turret]

How's it working for you, a lot better than before?

[summer girder]

Well i just added serpent vortex

My skill wheel was that anyways

Vortex has a huge hit box

So im killing alot more

[knotty turret]

This is what I'm using, and went from seeing mostly party kills to seeing mostly own kills

[summer girder]

i feel i can remove nautilus from the bar aswell

just having hook/vortex on it

[knotty turret]

Are you one hitting with vortex

[summer girder]

yup

[brazen osprey]

Wow this new v3 skill is amazing

Should greatly improve node farming too

One shots mobs and great mobility

[rose bramble]

well it wouldn't increase mobility unless u were manualling it

[supple flint]

Naut hits 15 no ?

I don’t think it matters. I’m even using the 2nd job spin skill in AB since I 1 hit stuff just to hit mobs that just spawn behind me 😂

[knotty turret]

I think if you replace with vortex you'll see a huge difference, vortex has insane AOE. It's an amazing skill

[supple flint]

It still hits 8 only though

It’s good for vertical hits though

[knotty turret]

But you can see in the video hits above the platform too

It also has downward range as well, like on the top platform of AF90 to the bottom

[supple flint]

Yea, but i usually have nothing to hit 😂

Usually I get the exp rest notification lol

[knotty turret]

Maybe because of lotd

[hearty wave]

If it’s a huge map like af 270 than maybe just v3 but in my current party I’m running LOTD

[sturdy reef]

sick, no need to change trios before I go ab. Farewell hook bomber 🥳

[hearty wave]

I stopped running LOTD just running v3 and nautilus

[rose bramble]

if map is small i would not just run v3

i noticed that if i just have V3 it causes my character to auto attack

like the BAD auto attack

[hearty wave]

In a full party that kills fast enough your charge usually don’t hit 0

[rose bramble]

ah its more like the 0.5 second recharge time

between casts

causes you to auto attack

[hearty wave]

Oh if it casts too fast?

[rose bramble]

yeah

[hearty wave]

Ahh I see

[rose bramble]

cuz if nautilus is on CD, and u only have V3 its funky

[hearty wave]

It’s pretty strong so mine usually one hits and there’s not many mobs around

[rose bramble]

yeah i think its fine in big maps

but sometimes i cast in 1 direction

and then my character turns around to attack a mob behind me

and im just auto attacking it

[hearty wave]

It hits behind you too

I think it’s an auto 8 mob hit

Like probably the closest 8 near your character or in a bunch

I feel like the range is limitless

[haughty surge]

the range very wide almost 3/4 of map. haha

i felt more useful now on lotus phase 1 lol.

but need to be very careful not to press any directional button while casting v3.

i left lotd on cos lazy to remove/put on pet. 😅

[hearty wave]

Looks like pcms

[haughty surge]

shoik hahaha esp with ropelift

[rose bramble]

yeah i wish the mob hit limit was higher

im super hestitate to use it in lotus bc its like 1 way ticket into death

[haughty surge]

just need to be careful when casting during p1. its doable. and dont be greedy trying to cast all. 1-2 times with every repositioning will do.

[rose bramble]

I’m pretty risk adverse so I avoided pressing it but I think once I get more comfy I can try weaving it in

[knotty turret]

use preset of V3 × 4, and put hook bomber on AB wheel, no auto attacks

if you're 1 hitting like Kevin then definitely won't run out of the 6 charges

[knotty turret]

same but that would be getting too greedy, it's such an amazing skill as it currently is

[rose bramble]

no shit, thats obvious

[knotty turret]

then y u auto attacking

[rose bramble]

we're talking about no hook bomber on AB wheel

read the room

[magic escarp]

do u guys use v3 on bossing ?

ark and lotus

my testing result use without v3 dpm better than use v3 lol

any advice?

[haughty surge]

never really test. but im not sure if its becos other chars v3 skills are more op or maybe their v3 lvl higher.. but my ranking dropped abit. lol.

will be taking abit time to lvl v3 to 15 before deciding how it feels haha.

[knotty turret]

of course you'll auto attack when the 6 charges run out, since there's no other attacks on the wheel

[hearty wave]

before patch i was hitting around 930m gd but my gd went up to 1.040b after with v3

[rose bramble]

No ur a dumbass, read what was said

It’s not the charges running out it’s the reuse timer per attack. There’s a 0.5 second reuse cooldown

[fleet acorn]

Is your v3 lv max ?

[hearty wave]

Nope lol

Not even close should’ve saved nodes but I didn’t

[magic escarp]

maybe octopunch buffed ? lol

[fleet acorn]

100m more in guild dungeon and v3 not maxed ? Nice buddy

[haughty surge]

have to take into consideration that octo add 2 more hit count thou.

[hearty wave]

Hmm I’ll try without v3

[hearty wave]

We’re definitely a very good mobber with v3

[knotty turret]

finally someone agrees, I feel like V3 has been underrated for mobbing

[knotty turret]

mind your language

[rose bramble]

maybe read first before jumping in with bad suggestions

food for thought

[supple flint]

Is this just because I’m not really hitting full cap on bosses which leads to random lines not capping ?

This is from ccq if it matters

[supple flint]

I see, just seems so weird though how close the avg is to cap especially with LF, so I’m assuming it’s only a few lines not capping for some reason

[knotty turret]

anyone have serpent vortex level 20+ stats? or even level 10-15 will do

[haughty surge]

Each level add 6% skill cd. Can prob calculate from there

[knotty turret]

Thank you. 6% is pretty good

[prime elm]

Is v3 any good for bossing? Or is spamming octopunch the only way

(Single target)

[haughty surge]

For v3 need to level up slightly more to feel the difference when bossing.

[supple flint]

V3 does increase dmg

Although I’m at lvl 15

[knotty turret]

for bossing I think it needs a bit of practice but would definitely be a bit better than just spamming octopunch, maybe putting in a preset. but this is if you're capping

for mobbing V3 is god tier

[past fable]

@shut tusk bucc papi bossing advice plox

[shut tusk]

what @haughty surge said, but i would use v3 when you have ds4 up. be mindful when you use it because if you're holding a directional button, you will dash in that direction. no reason to put it in a preset, it doesnt make it any faster since it has a .5 second cooldown

it's a decent amount of burst but dont expect it be like DB's v1 damage type of burst

i like to use it when it has 6 charges back up because a few seconds later DS4 will be back up

if you're curious about the damage % in Ark/ Lotus

https://i.gyazo.com/20737c3056fba857414fdbff6a4e3a02.png

this is Ark

https://i.gyazo.com/c4badfdb77aabfdb6fe289fd38f86c39.png

this is Lotus

[rose bramble]

I’d add that if you play on a emulator, there’s not much benefit to putting it on a preset. But if you play on a phone, I have a skill wheel with octo+V3 and octo because it’s easier to press vs tapping 2 small places on my screen and hoping it registers

[hearty wave]

I also have put on a preset and before I raised it, my dmg was definitely higher than pre v3

The directional key can be dangerous, died a couple times in lotus phase 1 cuz of it lol

[haughty surge]

I’m using the same method as plalowyn. I seperate Octo and v3. And only when it’s charge up to 4-6 before I will cast v3 ard 3-4 times in a row.

Didn’t like the idea of presetting due to the directional button issue. Like for lotus p1 it’s very dangerous. But I could say this boils down to personal preference as I have this habit to reposition myself before casting v3 and also to avoid certain attack, I didn’t wanna accidentally press v3 + directional button. 😂

[rose bramble]

Ah that’s fair

The reason I don’t like just casting v3 4-6 times in a row is because there’s a 0.5 second delay where u don’t do anything and miss out on more octo punches

Thus I resolve the issue by having octo in 2 separate spots on my skill wheel

[haughty surge]

That’s a good solution too. 😄

[shut tusk]

you're probably right, do you have preset for octo/ v3 and then also single buttons for octo and v3 ?

[prime elm]

Would the preset be octo/v3/octo/v3?

[rose bramble]

Yup! If you have space for them. I kinda find it hard to justify just a button slot for V3 by itself as I don’t know what I would give up…maybe maple warrior? Usually I think advance dash does a good enough job if I need to reposition and I can animation cancel it.

[rose bramble]

Nah just octo and V3.

[haughty surge]

Hehe later I will try this. I think for quite awhile and think it seems to be a good idea to implement this considering maybe in between the few times of v3 it allows us to throw in 1-2 octo too. Eventually it also leads to using the v3 counts too.

Thanks for the idea!

[shut tusk]