AGL / AAL Update Discussion

[digital tusk]

Please post any updates that you would like to see in AGL/AAL come 8.0, I ask that you be specific when suggesting and don't suggest things that have no chance to be added. The best suggestions will be fowarded to ToML and given to Chairman.

(Anyone can suggests stuff here)

[formal jetty]

Apc anchoring

[livid fractal]

Underground Street Races

[obtuse zealot]

VTOL texture resolution increased

[terse vale]

AGL requests for divisional servers, its a thing for AAL tho not for agl

[formal jetty]

Halloween and Christmas apc and VTOL’s

[livid fractal]

Roads

[autumn ibex]

fix the vtol lift

[radiant badger]

The ability to spawn more then one VTOL

[radiant badger]

That's more of a your ow thing

[willow pond]

More VTOL’s please

[unique creek]

Let us lock an APC

Raiders hijack them too often

[terse vale]

Idk how all that works

[unique creek]

In SC it's more like a Rtv thing

[hearty spade]

Add door locks to APC's so it's easier to deal with wastelanders, add an anchor option or something so it doesn't turn into a flying car when trying to exit it

[unique creek]

Those who know

[hearty spade]

Also add a horn cus why not

[unique creek]

^

Would be really nice

[fleet patrol]

give both vehicles a turret

also make them look more like actual wasteland suited vehicles and not city dweller stuff

the apc atleast does not look like an apc or something suited for wasteland travel

[radiant badger]

More like rib

[radiant badger]

No

[outer cliff]

im a hater, removal of AGL

[radiant badger]

Yes

[digital tusk]

please be more specific..

[radiant badger]

Apc I can see that but not the vtol

[outer cliff]

the game itself cant handle vehicles

why have them at all then

[obtuse holly]

❌ ❌

Well

[digital tusk]

we have roads 😻

[hearty spade]

i mean

APC's are kinda shit due to the relatively-shit wasteland terrain

[outer cliff]

unironically id do an ore run faster with my legs than with an apc

[hearty spade]

but they can still be pretty useful for transport

[obtuse holly]

Let us kc it

If it has a lock

[outer cliff]

optimize the game for ground vehicles first THEN discuss about the vehicle modifications

[jade pond]

I think we need a speed coil

[unique creek]

It takes too long to lower an APC from the garage

[outer cliff]

25k robux gamepass

[hearty spade]

this too

[digital tusk]

What's specifically broken?

[simple axle]

make a VTOL military transport plane, that can carry agl cars

[outer cliff]

not to mention the bug where apc can just die in the process of getting down

[obtuse holly]

wAY TOO CHEAP

[outer cliff]

unless that was patched but i assume not

[digital tusk]

Doubt it will happen but I think it's easy enough that it's not out of the question to consider

[hearty spade]

its a horn dude

[radiant badger]

Never

[digital tusk]

won't happen

[hearty spade]

not really that hard to implement afaik

[simple axle]

make an agl rv so aegis can stay the night at robotics

[obtuse holly]

OK then never be able to lock it

[outer cliff]

will the removal of agl happen

[radiant badger]

Nope

[obtuse holly]

Yes

[radiant badger]

Wastelanders can't be trusted with the vtol

[digital tusk]

bad news but agl is becoming more important 😭

[outer cliff]

dang it

[obtuse holly]

Did i ever mention vtol

?

[outer cliff]

so more hassle for both sides

crazy suggestion

[hearty spade]

AGL is getting a deployable tank for protocol lockdown 🔥

[obtuse holly]

WE were talking about apc

[outer cliff]

optimize dod terrain first

[radiant badger]

I think he is referring to the invisible hit box it leaves once raised

[unique creek]

it is pretty easy

[outer cliff]

🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯

[obtuse holly]

please read before u comment

[simple axle]

make agl a division

[radiant badger]

No but it's the only thing with a lock

[obtuse holly]

yes and it was suggested to lock

apc

in which i said then we should be able to kc it

[radiant badger]

Apc sure

Not vtol

[obtuse holly]

Ok we agree

[steep cairn]

2nd VTOL Hanger? To allow for multiple VTOLs to be in use. The Hanger 1 Door is completely useless as of right now

[digital tusk]

physically the current vtol hangar blocks part of the unused hangar door

they would need to be further apart

[steep cairn]

true

[livid fractal]

the terrain needs fixing g we be getting stuck in spots we shouldn’t ykwis

[digital tusk]

and i'm not sure how the vtol leaving would fit

[digital tusk]

specific spots?

[unique creek]

Somewhere around TOT it is pretty easy to get stuck

[livid fractal]

pretty much the right side of the border

all them hills

[digital tusk]

near z14?

[livid fractal]

entire right side needs a road or sum

or just be like elon and make underground roads

[unique creek]

underground roads would be peak

[arctic gull]

not sure if this has been stated yet but pilot immunity to z14 radiation (for vtols)

[obtuse holly]

😢

[formal jetty]

Counter!: remove the lift system

[radiant badger]

no

[autumn ibex]

you have to anchor and unanchor the vtol after the vtol stops moving

happens like half the time for me

[digital tusk]

i know what you’re referring to

it’s a minor issue but nonetheless i will add it since it could be an easy fix

[keen comet]

Give the side door to the vtol an animation

[mild wasp]

#1415182915955855381 message

I dont really feel like retyping everything here

might do that later

[wanton dragon]

Legit they are so broken

[mild wasp]

I dropped my banger suggestion in QA a while ago

There's also another one linked in it

[willow pond]

nope

[mild wasp]

#1180936084952191147 message

[willow pond]

how bout also getting respective AAL and AGL roles in this server

for aura maxxing

[mild wasp]

how about immune pilot combatics

yes

[next flax]

custom script for apc im not agl but im pretty sure someone from agl told me it was a basic roblox script

[mild wasp]

it used to be a basic one, but apparently a new one was created to make it suck less

[next flax]

is it in game or

[mild wasp]

it is

the most noticeable change was the fact that APCs can now climb hills decently better

not perfect tho

[next flax]

just needs a script thats made to be compatible with dods gameplay

idk how to say it but built for dod

[high edge]

A convict apc for aia and ard use to lock a individual in the back like the aia chair for transportation. Specifically make it so the backdoors can be locked and people have to shoot it open.

[mild wasp]

YES

I REMEMBER THIS

bc cuffing people in APC is a recipe for disaster

[high edge]

^ makes it useless for the agency

Specifically the apc should be black

[mild wasp]

mhm

and similar to the HMT-APC but instead of an ore tank, its the chair with a control panel the driver can access

also thats another thing, make a bind for the doors that the drivers can use

bc a single AAL pilot and their VTOL is fully autonomous whereas an AGL driver and their APC requires a second person to enter or exit

[digital tusk]

wouldn’t this make it even more of a target?

[high edge]

A reinforced fast moving vehicle is certainly easier then running in bright daylight with a guy in your cuffs being able to be 1 shot from any distance by a 1s.

It would be more obvious but also harder for them to react in time and with the extra hp it would provide

[digital tusk]

i think this would only be useful in an extraction setting

if you have the subject in a easy to access spot

[high edge]

It would be more meant for extractions and taking something by force yes

A reinforced prisoner vehicle isn't exactly stealthy

[mild wasp]

It could be made quieter

and a VTOL can provide aerial overwatch and support

that way AIA has options: either use the VTOL, which will be faster but rocky since cuffs are like that
OR
use the convict APC that would be smoother and difficult to detect, and maybe a little bit harder to infiltrate with or escape with

[digital tusk]

i'll take a look

[tardy torrent]

Does it buff pksf

[willow pond]

nothing to do with pksf

[obtuse zealot]

rtv manages the AGL bot

[obtuse zealot]

APC, Maybe, VTOL, NO.

VTOL would become immensely overpowered if so.

[obtuse zealot]

VTOL looks military, not wasteland
It's supposed to be a military vehicle, not wasteland focused
also irl we still use military aircraft in sandstorms, with no livery variations

[obtuse zealot]

if you guys actually have to stand still and crack it then that'd work, but if you can run up and tap it like doors then it'd be basically the same as now where raiders yoink the apc

[versed cosmos]

Increase the tourqe/power of the APC to get out of holes,depressions e.g

[obtuse zealot]

i'd suggest increasing traction greatly against terrain

it slides a lot

[versed cosmos]

hmm fair

give it a proper 4Wd system with differtstionals and lower gears trust

[copper dagger]

MAKE IT SO THE APC DOESNT FLING WHEN PEOPLE WALK IN IT

[tacit lance]

we just need to loose fat it’s ok

[autumn ibex]

@digital tusk make it so only the pilot can open the side door

people play with it too much

and also give it an animation but somebody already said that

[outer cliff]

make it have sport mode too

[tardy torrent]

can we add a porsche 911 gt3 rs for the agl

[outer cliff]

might as well make it have a mansory kit too

[terse vale]

Make it that the shooter post on the APC can actually shoot

[novel geyser]

AGL stuff:

• Traction increase for AGL wheels (should fix most terrain issues)
• Change mounting mechanism for AGL suspension so it doesn't glitch completely when it goes over a pothole.
• Make it harder to climb into APCs (perhaps something that makes the outer walls solid, can be toggled)

For AAL:

• VTOL Texture Resolution increase
• Increase in radiation and cold tolerance while sitting in the VTOL
• Change the binding for the "exit seat" button to something farther away from WASD. 🙏
• VTOL spawn limit removed in private servers.

@digital tusk

[deep raft]

maybe allow to customize vtol meybinds

[plush ridge]

than*

[radiant badger]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1089054516147662958/1089786997834514482/image0.gif

[slate blaze]

@digital tusk allow us to kick people out of the AGL

pov: you are transporting a patrol and one of the members goes afk and you have to return to the border but he is still in ur vehicle

[mild wasp]

The APC is prone to fishtailing a lot

I think increasing traction for the rear wheels might resolve that

[novel geyser]

you dont have that?

AAL does have that xP

[slate blaze]

no

[mild wasp]

but not for like 4 of the seats

which is weird

[novel geyser]

for AAL if someone goes AFK in the VTOL you can kill them after a couple warnings

Doesnt matter if theyre an EFA or a UC

[mild wasp]

I mean AGL can just tell someone to get out and if they dont, we can murder

[mild wasp]

same in AGL

[novel geyser]

yeah thats what I was saying then

what is he talking about

[mild wasp]

but kill buttons would be funny

idk probably something to force jump a player in a seat

[novel geyser]

I mean kill buttons are a relic of the VTOL script

if it were made modern day it probably wouldnt have them

its part of uhhh

[mild wasp]

they rock tho

[novel geyser]

jevins script I think

mmmm yeah i guess theyre useful to an extent

https://tenor.com/view/evernight-lonely-honkai-hsr-honkai-star-rail-gif-2629661407739752615

[high edge]

Agl vehicles basically uses a slightly modified base roblox car script

[fervent quartz]

Apc with auto ai flying railguns for 12982378 robux

[high edge]

Back in my days this was hatkid

[tardy torrent]

or better yet lets just add the av

yk from cyberpunk

and rename ard to the trauma team

@high edge thoughts

[novel geyser]

DOOD

[maiden vault]

boombox

[tacit lance]

add radios for APC/VTOL fr fr

[digital tusk]

for the second agl suggestion is that when people enter but don’t sit it just flings the apc?

[novel geyser]

The wheels can sometimes just invert or turn 90 degrees for no reason and just tangle up

[stuck cape]

AGL

• Overhauled APC system. They're extremely buggy.
• Give the APC's more torque, so they dont get stuck when driving around. Give them better traction as well
• Add more roads around the map.
• APC anchoring when parked
• Relocation of APC garage (possibly?) Maybe an APC garage in AED would be better but would require a lot of changes to AED

AAL

tbh idk what to suggest for aal cus i feel like aal doesnt really have that many issues with the vtol

• Maybe a new VTOL model since its pretty damn old and looks a tad outdated

@digital tusk

[versed cosmos]

who cares about AAL it’s already to good

[stuck cape]

Yeah true its just AGL that needs the msot

A new VTOL model would be nice, though

[radiant badger]

Removal*

[autumn ibex]

give AAL a rocket launcher

tracking missiles that automatically shoot down raiders that shoot the vtol

/j

[digital tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/clones-laat-clonewars-geonosis-fight-gif-13213302

[toxic pollen]

Vehicle fueling & repairing vehicle health

[digital tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/f-16-air-refueling-haf-usaf-hellenic-air-force-gif-6412409543873428975

[toxic pollen]

nah, just get an initiate to climb on top of the vtol

too expensive to have another aircraft do it

[digital tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cruise-out-of-plane-gif-18876985

[toxic pollen]

exactly

[digital tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565

[versed cosmos]

make the AED workers do it

[toxic pollen]

i was considering it

but they're actually qualified

so no

[versed cosmos]

think about this oil valley

u gotta extract oil

[toxic pollen]

oh i have

[versed cosmos]

do some temu engineering in Aed areas

and you get fuel

that can be used to fuel a backup gen for lights and for uhh vehicles

and then theirs a new AGL car called a oil carrier, basically you can directly fill up oil into that and it gets dispensed into canisters for it to be taken by aed personnel

I’m so smart

[toxic pollen]

[keen comet]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-engineer-ubercharge-engi-team-fortress-2-gif-1088032221415298016

[formal jetty]

Add more the medal time requirement and also have a video of someone actually doing it in under that time so we know it’s possible

[obtuse zealot]

L O W E R ?

[autumn ibex]

bro wants it harder

[formal jetty]

Morer I mean

[stoic rune]

the vtol livery says ‘AEGIS AAL’ which is just aegis aegis aerial logistics so maybe remove the first ‘aegis’

[deep raft]

Not sure how related it is but maybe add AGL and AAL tag to tablist

[obtuse zealot]

lol no it doesnt

it says AEGIS AAA

[stuck cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1007552743436730419/1431769104150433813/caption.gif

[stoic rune]

same thing

[terse vale]

That would be nice for patrols and all, easy way to check if we are online

[autumn ibex]

aerial air airplane

[deep raft]

it was aviation something something

[radiant badger]

Aegis aviation agency

[jade pond]

AAAAAAAAL

[novel geyser]

HAH

HAHHAHAH

AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

IM DYING

[mild wasp]

those who snow

[novel geyser]

@stable wadi DO YOU HEAR THIS GUY

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ADD... LOGISTICS TO THE... TABLIST...??? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[mild wasp]

like saying add AHRD or QA to tablist lol

[terse vale]

I mean there is the IC tag, so why not AHRD

Gaming_Suchti1337 SC, AGL, AHRD, AECD would look fire

[mild wasp]

Because IC is considered to be a part of HICOM

AHRD is an external department like the extracurricular department

[terse vale]

Kinda

Tho why not

[mild wasp]

Chairman probably thinks its useless or would be too cluttered

which isnt wrong

since AHRD and AECD dont have any in-game specific content

[arctic gull]

maybe instead of a tag just use one of the boxes at the bottom when you click someone's name in tablist

actually itd require some re ordering of things

ehhhh

[obtuse zealot]

h e h e h e h e h

i apply to both

[mild wasp]

heh

me too

[deep raft]

ahrd is pointless

same for qa

[mild wasp]

yes that is what I said

[deep raft]

Aal and agl wouldn’t be useless

[mild wasp]

I mean

in 8.0 probably

[deep raft]

people aren’t gonna bother pinging a pilot if they don’t know if one is online

[mild wasp]

but if ALD gets a tag, it should be a universal ALD tag

[deep raft]

If I need to do something I don’t need a pilot for I won’t bother asking for one

but if one is online I’ll happily take it

which is why we should get tag

doesn’t need to be anything fancy just gotta be easily recognizable without memorizing every pilots and driver name

requesting either is too much work to bother contacting them since essentially nothing NEEDS ald

[high edge]

It is basically a help centre

[mild wasp]

help is an interesting word lol

its moreso help reserved for people that may have been wronged

the amount of randoms that just open cases for stuff like "I didnt get my points on time" is wild

[high edge]

aka a help centre

👍

[mild wasp]

ehhhh

[high edge]

True Human Resources Experience

[terse vale]

Back to agl, can we allow more divs to help us when deploying

[deep raft]

Bro

go ask agl leadership

[mild wasp]

Nearly everyone in the divisional comms server can help already

[terse vale]

PKSF cant

[mild wasp]

Wdym?

of course they can

[terse vale]

Pksf was in the garage with me and couldn't lower it

[mild wasp]

You need an L-2 card

I have operated garage controls as a PKSF and have seen other PKSF operate garage controls, its not impossible

[stoic rune]

^ just use L2 card, pksf card doesnt work

[lone lynx]

honk honk for agl 😎

make a button so it can be unflipped (idk if that already exists)

or add like nvg built into the drivers seat

same for vtol

[outer cliff]

honk...honk...

@grave birch

[willow pond]

already exists

it’s not a button it auto flips

[lone lynx]

Oh cool

[willow pond]

ur nv suggestion would be fire tho