#Make spamming about being an exploiter ecobannable

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keen creek
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Because apparently admitting to being the cause of the exploit these days isn't enough to get banned (ie: spamming "THIS INFECTION WAS CAUSED BY PRICEFVL FVL ON TOP!" in chat), this should be made to be enough for an ecoban on its own. Anyone spamming this knows what it means, and isn't someone trying to play legitimately, and should be removed. They are nothing more than an annoyance who admitted to exploiting and should be treated as such.

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@lyric magnet reactions, im upset

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Make spamming about being an exploiter ecobannable

lyric magnet
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Or why not the phrase itself being an insta ban? Like people mentioning it one time could get insta banned.

keen creek
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if they were joking they can sit around ecobanned while they wait for a possible appeal

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its a decline in the standard of acceptable conduct, it should be common damn sense that you dont claim to be an exploiter if you actually arent one

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so anyone who complains about "oh but i could get banned" WELL MAYBE DONT REPEAT STUPID PHRASES

lyric magnet
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I suggest to comment things about the feedback, if you want to talk, we have #aegis or #🌐global for it.

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Thanks.

lyric magnet
native idol
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As per subsidiary rules it is bannable

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Also those guys are alts

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Big time alts

keen creek
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to claim to be the cause of an exploited outbreak

native idol
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How

lyric magnet
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Wait what?

keen creek
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IDK

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I LEGITIMATELY DONT KNOW

native idol
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Admitting to exploiting is

keen creek
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HOW THAT ISNT ECOBANNABLE

native idol
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Same with saying you're alting

keen creek
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i was told its insufficient proof if its just them admitting to it

lyric magnet
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It's an ecoban, who said exploiting isn't a ban?

ebon stag
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Section III, 1.C.

Threatening to exploit at any given moment will result in a permanent eco-ban.

keen creek
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like maybe dont say youre the cause behind it if you dont wanna be banned

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but apparently sc refuses to ban for it

lyric magnet
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Even if you're part of FVL is just a straight ban.

keen creek
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^

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im legitimately concerned that this isnt eco'able conduct

lyric magnet
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They're admitting being an FVL one, so why not a ban?

ebon stag
keen creek
ebon stag
keen creek
# ebon stag it is?

yeah i thought it is too then i get a dm from an sc saying its insufficient proof

ebon stag
keen creek
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if they literally spam in chat saying theyre behind it

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like

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thats some shameful crap if youre saying thats "insufficient"

ebon stag
keen creek
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exactly

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my point

ebon stag
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send the sc that

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and if they say no

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the UO!!

lyric magnet
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@tribal quiver With all respect, we need to know the reason of your denial.

native idol
ebon stag
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OMG ANTOYTHER CZ OUBEK

keen creek
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i wont name them but anyone with ecoban paperwork has the name

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and then another sc joined vc during outbreak and said the same thing "its insufficient"

native idol
keen creek
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they technically do cause like i cant ecoban by myself since im AS

native idol
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I'm guessing not. Send them that rule.

keen creek
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and i could just ping another person

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but like the effort is insane to get an exploiter banned

native idol
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I'll ban the guy if he isn't already for alting later

keen creek
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when they ADMITTED TO IT

lyric magnet
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?

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If you're gonna keep something in secret, I suggest to don't react. People react and put their comments about each feedback.

native idol
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Whos the current head of sc.

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I cannot recall.

keen creek
rugged meteor
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Wild how they deny banning a person who's literally breaking a rule where a ban is the punishment

lyric magnet
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I'm surprised too.

rugged meteor
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Like that's not consistent

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With the rules

keen creek
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legitimately, give me database moderator, give academy staff database mod and ill ban them myself

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like if sc cant be bothered to do it then they can hand me the keys to the kingdom

native idol
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@buoyant dagger Please inform your sc to stop denying bans of individuals spamming that they're exploiting. It is bannable as per subsidiary guidelines and they're all fvl alts anyways. So i rather not have to go back through all of the denied bans and reban them for being a alternative account. Thanks.

rugged meteor
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This reminds me how there's two feedbacks now about SC doing weird stuff.

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Like the first one was people getting warned for small shit

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Now this

native idol
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Sc sometimes do weird stuff

rugged meteor
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(Like, the SC accepting player reports that are so small)

keen creek
rugged meteor
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No access! My favorite lol

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Secrets

keen creek
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and honestly if we cant get valid outcomes 100% of the time, expand the number of people with database mod, cause we already ban exploiters anyways

rugged meteor
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SC needs some talking to or like some cleanup

native idol
rugged meteor
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Or something

keen creek
native idol
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👍

keen creek
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cause theyre the most obvious bans

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ever

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its not like these accounts are even hiding it

native idol
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They ain't

keen creek
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theyre openly admitting to it, theyre obviously trying to get banned

lyric magnet
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Even they said they're part of FVL, which they could just change the reason.

keen creek
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so give them the ban they want

rugged meteor
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I mean those are the easiest bans ever

keen creek
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like im legitimately confused about why its so difficult to get admitted exploiters banned

rugged meteor
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No one says they're an exploiter or an alt on accident

keen creek
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no matter which era of aegis you look at, exploiters are banned on sight for honestly less of obvious proof than this

rugged meteor
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Yep

keen creek
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at least the video ones are up for interpretation (could be a glitch? who knows), this one is straight up admitting

rugged meteor
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Yeah it couldn't be easier than this

keen creek
tribal quiver
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no ?

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spamming in chat doesnt provide any proof of them exploiting

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anyone with mod can :view a suspicious exploiter and :ban them if they are

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in which case you can then use the ecoban channel to request them to be ecobanned

ebon stag
tribal quiver
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ok

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thats not what i said

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but sure

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now if you're in your message and you say like "i exploited this outbreak fvl on top" then obviously you can ban them

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but saying that "this outbreak was caused by [user]" doesnt insinuate exploiting or threatening to exploit its just saying who its caused by

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and aia would deal with those regardless

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& since when was this a rule

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sc need some true yelling

small wedge
small wedge
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im so confused

tribal quiver
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admitting to exploiting is enough

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saying you caused the outbreak isnt

desert bobcat
small wedge
tribal quiver
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like this one and the one above it dont constitute a valid ban #📃ecoban-paperwork message

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they never mentioned anything about exploiting anything and theres no proof they exploited anything

small wedge
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which isnt an ecoban by itsef

tribal quiver
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huh

small wedge
# tribal quiver huh

aegis causing outbreaks (by not using exploits) used to be a thing but its not an ecoban, i havent seen a case of it in years

tribal quiver
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you can be warned for purposefully spreading a virus during an infection as aegis

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i think

hardy plover
small wedge
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serverbanned too if ard hates you

tribal quiver
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fr

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but like i said i don't see this suggestion getting implemented because it opens up too many opportunities for false bans and it would just be banning people for an accused rule violation without proper evidence

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if theyre spamming the chat they can be warned though 😃

keen creek
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then make spamming ecobannable

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like

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at all

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no one likes spammers

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and no one has a legitimate purpose for spamming

tribal quiver
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i mean it is if u get enough warnings for it

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but one instance is very minor

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unless ur spamming bad things 🙁

keen creek
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i mean look at the examples in paperwork

tribal quiver
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yea thats just people spamming text that says they were the cause of the infection

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the only rule broken in those screenshots is spamming which constitutes a warn

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not an ecoban

keen creek
tribal quiver
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then attach some proof that the outbreak they caused was exploited 😭

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gonna have people guessing

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no

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saying you caused an infection should never be bannable

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if they say they exploited it it already is bannable

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well like

keen creek
tribal quiver
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uhh

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sortof

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i dont agree with the suggestion in its current state however if you can provide proof that the outbreak they are talking about is exploited (and proof of them causing it) then i dont see why it wouldnt be ecobannable

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the specific instances of this happening recently are more of aias field imo

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pretty obvious alts

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aia bans alts

ebon stag
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I stand by this

tribal quiver
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Yea obviously thats still a rule and still enforceable

keen creek
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causing an exploited outbreak isnt a joke

ebon stag
tribal quiver
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Admitting to exploiting is bannable already the subsidiary guidelines just dont explicitly state it

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Should be fixed

tribal quiver
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is my internet shitting

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i love my wifi

buoyant dagger
mellow apex
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I always banned people who claimed they exploited

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I didn't care if it was a joke or not, it's not something funny to joke about lol. exploiting is illegal and only negative in dod context 😮

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same with morons who think "just demote me" wins an argument

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like ok bud you asked for it

spice falcon
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I’m pricefvl I’m an exploiter

spring apex
spring apex
native idol
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So eh

tribal quiver
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Ehy isn’t this already a thing lol

merry elm
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erm

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@keen creek chat spam is an eco ban

manic ridge
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no.

merry elm
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yes?

small wedge
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no

merry elm
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then why have i seen ecos for it

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explain that one @small wedge

small wedge
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Chat spam: Punishments can be either kickwarn or server ban depending on the amount of times this said action was done.

small wedge
merry elm
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ic

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ive seen ecos for it before

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so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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then just server ban for chatspam and report account to aia since they are clear alts

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easy win

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or ban them for exploiter affiliation since thats what it is as well

manic ridge
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^

hollow aurora
cobalt grove
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freedom of speech is non existent on day of dusk

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🙏

tribal quiver
cobalt grove
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womp womp

tribal quiver
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"I already talked to toml they said its not bannable"

echo widget
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@raw kayak please stop being an exploiter

desert bobcat
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its not bannable according to toml so we wont ban for it

tribal quiver
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@sly ledge

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what is this

desert bobcat
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what is coolguy gonna do

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he cant overrule toml

tribal quiver
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so i redirected him here

sly ledge
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It already is

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Or it should be

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Uh just give them regular spamming punishments

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SC have been told to serverban any alts spamming severely @tribal quiver

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As spamming is a serverbannable offense so

tribal quiver
keen creek
sly ledge
keen creek
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thus exploiter affiliation

lyric magnet
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If they mention they're FVL? We can't ban them? (Because as the rule of FVL).

sly ledge
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we do ban them because theyre obvious alts

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just serverban them and move on

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because its spam and obviously an alt

keen creek
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yeah but whats the point of holding off on the ecoban

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its not like theyre here to be a positive part of dod

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by any measure

sly ledge
tribal quiver
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is there any way to prove that it was me or not

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god forbid shit like this happens

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but ya

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heck we dont even know if it was the alt who exploited

keen creek
tribal quiver
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they can

keen creek
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if theyre spamming the whole this infection was made possible thing ban them

tribal quiver
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check dms

keen creek
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but like serverban does shit cause they can just reuse that account

lyric magnet
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The only ones who can ban alts are AIA, so... We can only show them that. The intriguing part is when they mention FVL, which as seen we can serverban (Now). But further than that... Nope.

sly ledge
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SC have been authorised to automatically ecoban these alts

native idol
sly ledge
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your uoc was the one who authorised it

native idol
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AIAs can't be online with our smaller numbers to constantly handle constant alts like this

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ye

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So go ham.

desert bobcat
native idol
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If people had less of a skill issue sure

keen creek
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which is a necessary requirement but reduces the number of people to really pick from in the first place

sly ledge
native idol
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We have had some aias that are new to the community

keen creek
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around 70-80% or so is still people with extensive divisional history and service to aegis

native idol
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And alot of more well known community members has failed

keen creek
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sure, but it seems heavily unlikely a random EO with no connections and no prior divisional experience has a chance

native idol
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One did

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Actually more then one.

small wedge
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those people legitmately makes up a third of our division now

keen creek
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is it up to a third now

small wedge
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bromack had NO connections to any otherr aia then we have mike, xol, and sofa

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and probably another or 2

keen creek
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oh yeah i guess 12-13/18

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with past aegis experience

native idol
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As per directorate too. Just because you're a well know member it won't influence the application result. It wouldn't be much of a good agency if we let everyone popular in

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We focus on people that can get the job done

keen creek
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mm

jaunty isle
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they dont even put a comma

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its just "this infection was caused by pricefvl fvl on top"

it doesn't even make sesnse

desert bobcat
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this infection was caused by pricefvl, fvl on top

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fixed

jaunty isle
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should be "this infection was caused by pricefvl[COMMA] fvl on top"

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yea i dont understand what they;re saying

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its practically like sadjkhgljjjjjjdhsnfkjldfshlshjkgdfj;gjfd

keen creek
desert bobcat
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technically

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they r initiates

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their alts r always aegis

keen creek
desert bobcat
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most of em r aegis i feel like

jaunty isle
keen creek
jaunty isle
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shouldn't they at least get their message across

keen creek
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pretty sure their intention isnt legibility its terrorism

jaunty isle
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instead of just gibberish attention gathing noises

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no no

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they are saying gibberish

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so

keen creek
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biological terrorism

jaunty isle
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its just exploiting but shorter

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ok

desert bobcat
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guyss they r breaking the geneva convention

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lets ban thme all

keen creek
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the ecosystem has every genre, now dod includes biological terrorism in addition to political intrigue, expose documents, and military chain of command

jaunty isle
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would you rather (theoretically), exploit quietly or exploit then spam gibberish?

tribal quiver