Is there a way I can transfer my badges from my NNID to my PNID?

[somber jetty]

Just want to know if its possible and what are the steps to it.

[elfin radish]

yes! i just figured this out myself!

[somber jetty]

OH GOODIE

[elfin radish]

youll need to make a folder called "badges" (in that spelling w/ lowercase) within the root of your sd card

youre so lucky i just figured this out while discussing bugs lol

[somber jetty]

lmao thats so epok

[elfin radish]

alright, make your folder!!!!!!! raaaaaaaaa

[somber jetty]

ok gimme a sec

[elfin radish]

not ok!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! take your time though

[somber jetty]

done

[elfin radish]

alr go pop your sd card back into your 3ds n turn it on

[somber jetty]

done

[elfin radish]

do you have gytb

[somber jetty]

i dont think so

[elfin radish]

grab it from the universal updater

[somber jetty]

got it

do i launch it?

[elfin radish]

oh sorry ive been looking for badges

yes, launch it!

this will dump all your official badges into the folder you made

[somber jetty]

already did!

[elfin radish]

great! head over to pretendo mode

[somber jetty]

done

[elfin radish]

run gytb again

[somber jetty]

oh glorious

they are all there

[elfin radish]

just uh

dont check your nintendo profile again

[somber jetty]

Any reason?

[elfin radish]

...this has a chance of triggering a bug that semi-obliterates your badges on the nintendo side

as i discovered literally just now

[somber jetty]

oh

shit

um

Ok thanks for the heads up...

[elfin radish]

Solution: (how to restore your NNID badges)
You need a backup of your SD card from before this happened.

Take your SD Card out of your 3DS. Plug it into your computer.
Go to your backup, and find this folder:
\Nintendo 3DS[ID0][ID1]\extdata\00000000\000014d1
Copy folder "000014d1" from your backup and paste it into the same path on your SD Card.
Put the SD Card back into the 3DS, and reboot. Your badges should be back on Nintendo Network mode.

theres a fix tho

just in case

(my badges, gone)

[plush merlin]

oh no…there’s more possibilities for this to happen?

[elfin radish]

in my case uhh

just switching back to the nintendo side after loading (and placing!) these injected badges destroyed my badge access on its side

(fixed a typo)

[plush merlin]

it seems this is turning into a larger problem than originally anticipated then

apparently badges and pretendo are just oil and water

[elfin radish]

if only nintendo didnt add that god forsaken check into badge arcade

[inner mirage]

So I just ran GYTB while in Pretendo Mode™ And for some reason there are still no badges

[elfin radish]

did you make the 'badges' folder first??

(thank god i made a backup today)

[plush merlin]

all this effort for some stupid sticky pngs

[elfin radish]

i love pngs

[inner mirage]

Yeah there's a badges folder

[plush merlin]

god i fucking love pngs

[elfin radish]

i fucking LOVE pngs

[inner mirage]

GYTB literally makes one automatically

[elfin radish]

no it doesnt

i had to make mine manually

[inner mirage]

either way, I do in fact have a badges folder

[elfin radish]

MY SD CARD TOLD ME IT WAS EMPTY. NEARLY SCREAMED

[somber jetty]

😭

[tawny current]

Could we just get the official Nintendo badges on gytb?

[elfin radish]

nope

oh wait mb

i thought you meant pretendo

[wintry basalt]

hell no

[elfin radish]

YEAH WE'RE DISCOVERING THESE ERRORS LIKE. TONIGHT

LIKE THIS IS BORDERLINE NEW INFO

[fringe orbit]

Sooo should I make a backup of this folder right now before going to pretendo 😅

[elfin radish]

absolutely back up your badges

[plush merlin]

we are the pioneers of schrodinger’s badges

[plush merlin]

100% YES. mine are in purgatory because of this mistake

[elfin radish]

im rather miffed bc i spent like 5 months grinding badge arcade

[plush merlin]

dude same. from the moment they announced the eshop closing to the day it closed, i played every single day

[elfin radish]

im so fucking sorry for you

[plush merlin]

i have/had gathered like 650 animal crossing badges

[elfin radish]

testing the fix now. my condolences- oh my god i only had 300-something TOTAL

[fringe orbit]

I'm so sorry :(

[plush merlin]

oh yeah no lol i had something like 1,500 badges altogether haha (please pretendo gods give me back my badges.)

[elfin radish]

OKAY UPDATE: the established fix works! heading back to the pretendo side to see if those didnt corrupt

OH GOD YOU HAD 1.5K?

IM.

I HAVE BAD NEWS.

[inner mirage]

GYTB can't even load 1.5k

[elfin radish]

no the thing is like

[wintry basalt]

Does the clickable badges work that can run applicatoin such as settings mii plaza etc.

[plush merlin]

well a lot of them were in the like…badge drawer thing? idk what it was considered but the thing inside the badge arcade where you store the extras you don’t want out

[elfin radish]

the 3ds only locally stores 1000. the other 500 were stored in badge arcade's servers. you were supposed to swap them in and out to back up all your badges before the shutdown. and now theyre inaccessible

you fr just lost 500 badges for good

[plush merlin]

hahahahahahahahaha

[elfin radish]

nah, theyre just png files rather than anything w/ functionality

[plush merlin]

sweet :3

[fringe orbit]

Just to clarify, so I backed up that folder, and I launched gytb. Would be safe for me to switch to pretendo and launch gytb again?

[wintry basalt]

That's a big L for me. I still use the Clickable badges on my 3ds for design

[elfin radish]

YOURE SAFE TO LAUNCH GYTB AGAIN (I HOPE)

[fringe orbit]

I know how you all felt similarly when I lost my streetpass data years ago :(

[elfin radish]

AGAIN WE'RE DISCOVERING THIS LIKE. right now

oh my god losing streetpass data is hell

[wintry basalt]

The thing with GYTB was for that all my clickable badges wasn't working anymore so i role back my save files

[inner mirage]

You actually can make them clickable I think, you just have to name them properly

[elfin radish]

NEW PHENOMENON DISCOVERED CHAT

RESTORING YOUR NNID BADGES KILLS THE CUSTOM BADGES

spent 10 minutes renaming those club penguin badges.

[plush merlin]

wait…i didn’t even think about this

[fringe orbit]

😭

[wintry basalt]

fr?

[plush merlin]

i used all my animal crossing clickable badges for the eshop and settings and shit

[inner mirage]

Quote from the readme on the github: "To make a badge function as a shortcut to a system application, put the TIDLow of one in the filename, between the first and second periods."

Here's a list of TIDLow's if you want: https://3dbrew.org/wiki/Title_list#00040010_-_System_Applications

[plush merlin]

it feels like this rabbit hole is just getting deeper and we cannot get out

this is a death sentence for a casual modded user like myself

[fringe orbit]

I'm so glad I decided to look around the support channel omg

[elfin radish]

IM ALSO A CASUAL MODDER

[wintry basalt]

Oh thanks, i was never that deep into GYTB. I got a lot of badges with badge acrade years ago

[inner mirage]

I'm trying to use GYTB right now, but it takes a while because I have 800~ custom badges

[wintry basalt]

@elfin radish You said you lost your streetpass data with GYTB?

[plush merlin]

i’ve never had or used GTYB before tonight

[plush merlin]

you WHAT

[wintry basalt]

nah idk if iwas reading correclty

[fringe orbit]

You might have saw my message 😭

[inner mirage]

Ok everyone, good news

[fringe orbit]

They were replying to me lol

[wintry basalt]

ah "is hell" i was reading "as well"

[elfin radish]

nono i was replying to xan. thankfully my 800 miis are safe

[inner mirage]

GYTB no longer works for me at all 🥲

[elfin radish]

HUH

[inner mirage]

There is simply no badges

[fringe orbit]

Yeah all my old streetpass miis are in the afterlife 😭

[plush merlin]

bro. you and me both.

[inner mirage]

how do I fix it

[elfin radish]

im trying to like. inference it up right

[inner mirage]

Because I still have all the images in the "badges" folder

[elfin radish]

w/ the 'badges locked out' thing

[plush merlin]

i’ll let you know as soon as i get my badges back as well

[inner mirage]

?

[elfin radish]

ok like. me and giraffe's issue

i think it has to do w/ some directory shenanigans related to the badge selector

[steep patrol]

just wanted to drop a huge thank you to everyone who has investigated, researched or discussed this topic

wishing you all the very best of luck

[elfin radish]

we're figuring it out through trial and error and like none of us do software dev

[elfin radish]

honestly maybe try reinstalling

[steep patrol]

i appreciate that massively

[plush merlin]

this message scared me into checking my streetpass mii plaza. thank god my horde of miis are all still there

[elfin radish]

i mean thankfully someone figured out the solution before we did. and im lucky i backed up

[raven oar]

this is such a huge issue that i hope gets formally addressed

[fringe orbit]

Yeah nono I should clarify, I did something dumb a few years back and lost my streetpass data lol. It doesn't have anything to do with the badges

[plush merlin]

mannn that sucks. i’m really sorry that happened to you

[fringe orbit]

I managed to somewhat restore it using the streetpass files people have uploaded. But it's not the same :(

[elfin radish]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-sad-cat-snaugz-gif-25724376

i need to check my little freaks.

[raven oar]

my nnid was banned because i was under the age of 13 LOL so when i got homebrew i disconnected my nnid and made a new one! ...somehow it didnt connect in my mind that i would lose all my badges

[elfin radish]

im so glad i took a minute to kinda figure out how badge arcade works before the shutdown

god yeah this is a big ass issue

[fringe orbit]

Yeah I switched to pretendo and my badges disappeared from the homescreen. Which I assume is what happens?

[elfin radish]

yup, thats normal for pretendo

[steep patrol]

all my ogs are long gone because i had to reset a while back

sadge

new army tho

[elfin radish]

differing profile and server-side saves shenanigans

i cant fathom nuking my saves im still playing save files from like 2006

[steep patrol]

it was

circumstantial

i still have my ps2 save games lol

[elfin radish]

went back to nintendo one more time to make a badge check,,

yeah ok problem fixed

[fringe orbit]

Would I be able to put the badges back on the pretendo homescreen safely? Or should I not mess with adding badges in case it wipes them?

[elfin radish]

in this case its essentially making a compromise

either you keep your badges' save intact in the Nintendo side but leave your Pretendo bald, or you inject them into Pretendo and lock your Nintendo side away

[fringe orbit]

Ah I see

[plush merlin]

if i could go back in time like 5 hours and scream at myself to back up my SD card and not to put them in the pretendo side

[elfin radish]

id scream at you too, friend

[inner mirage]

Or mess up somehow and have them work on neither 🥲

[elfin radish]

i dont even know what the hell's going on in your side

you just like. outright lost

[inner mirage]

meh. It's fine

GYTB backed up my badges, so if it ever gets fixed I can just re-inject them.

I had already lost a good chunk of them beforehand from unrelated incidents.

[elfin radish]

guessing you lack a backup of your badge arcade files?

[inner mirage]

How would one even make a backup of something like that

[elfin radish]

\Nintendo 3DS[ID0][ID1]\extdata\00000000\000014d1

you gotta root around your sd card, copy the folder at the end of the directory, and store it somewhere safe

thats about it really

these files like. undo the weird lock placed when gytb and pretendo mix

[plush merlin]

i made it easy on myself by just typing the file name in search and it came up, really saves time instead hunting for it

[inner mirage]

wait so if I had an SD card backup somewhere I might be able to fix this

[plush merlin]

as long as it’s an updated backup then yeah i think so!

“updated backup” as in contains the latest version of your badges

[elfin radish]

yeah

[inner mirage]

uh, what if there's TWO ID0's?

[elfin radish]

just search for the 14d1 folder

save yourself the time

again idk what gytb does to those files that allows just replacing them to solve the issue while replacing gytb functionality

[inner mirage]

..there's 2.

[elfin radish]

huh

send pics

[inner mirage]

one sec

[plush merlin]

this just got interesting

[inner mirage]

I think I remember running into something like this when I first set up homebrew. I think this happens because the SD card has been in 2 different 3ds's.

[plush merlin]

considering they’re only a couple minutes apart, i’d assume they just got duplicated by accident

you could just copy both of them to a safe place on your pc

[fringe orbit]

Oh alright, I thought there were multiple and I was about to be scared I backed up the wrong folder 😭

[elfin radish]

hate this console

[inner mirage]

Guess I should've seen this coming, buying my 3ds used.

[plush merlin]

i have this with anemone, there are two copies of it on my 3ds and i’m too afraid of screwing anything up to delete one of them

[inner mirage]

Didn't think I would regret it like 5 years later

ok I'm pretty sure I know which one is right

what do I do with this folder

[plush merlin]

since this badge issue seems to be growing with every discovery, i’m basically just not going to touch the PNID until it’s fixed

[elfin radish]

im doing the opposite- not touching badges

this issue also seems to be a gytb thing as well because that seems to tamper w/ the badge arcade files

[inner mirage]

Well, there's only one thing left to do.

Try it blindly and hope it works.

[plush crescent]

sorry for the delay

i was commuting

[plush crescent]

has anyone saved all of these? iirc it's possible to get custom badges with CFW so theoretically they're all still intact right? or am i totally off base

[elfin radish]

the official badges are all stored within a database somewhere on the internet, yes

[inner mirage]

cool it worked

[plush crescent]

so there's no problem then...?

[inner mirage]

my badges are back on the NNID side

[plush crescent]

or am i missing something

[elfin radish]

the problem is that moving these badges through the same means as the custom ones locks out your badges on the nintendo side

so if you inject your badges into pretendo then nintendo goes 'oh you dont have a save file'

and essentially locks away all your badges without letting you access them

[plush crescent]

sorry, I'm actually new here and don't even have pretendo installed. what do you mean by inject?

[elfin radish]

'injecting badges' is basically forcing the console to accept ordinary .png files as badges that can be placed

however doing this badly messes with your official badges

pretendo is basically a separate user profile in your console, which really angers the badges and makes the system either delete all the custom badges or lock away the normal ones (depending on the situation)

[plush crescent]

oh, yikes. so you're saying this could happen if i install pretendo? and i should do something specific to make sure that doesn't happen, when i do?

[elfin radish]

you only need to do two things

1. back up the badges folder i mentioned. this helps you repair things easily if they go wrong

2. you can prevent this issue by simply accepting that you cant use badges on pretendo and not adding any to the console

otherwise pretendo's very safe to use

[fringe orbit]

Just also wanted to say real quick, thank you for figuring all of this out <3

[elfin radish]

i didnt figure out this solution

it was @/hudsonm1!! i followed their guide and am mostly just figuring out the why through deduction

[plush crescent]

wait so i cant customize my home menu with badges anymore?

[elfin radish]

mostly just hypothesis, though the solution and prevention method is pretty much fact

[plush crescent]

if i get pretendo?

[elfin radish]

installing pretendo basically gives you two profiles

the main nintendo one, and the pretendo one

you can customize the nintendo one just fine

you cant customize the pretendo one

[plush crescent]

ohh okay

[elfin radish]

yeah since pretendo's in beta its all rather new

[sharp aspen]

found this thread in trying to figure out why the issue happened in the first place for me

[elfin radish]

welcome to hell

short answer: its possible but comes with nasty risks

[sharp aspen]

it just so happens to be that before i installed pretendo, i did make an sd card backup because i know i should always stay safe with my da- i was migrating to a bigger sd card i'm lying on the reason i am not that big of a genius.

is it really as simple then afterwards to copy the data from the backup, and use gtyp or however it is spelled to restore the data from there?

[elfin radish]

yeah but uh

massive catch right

it entirely disables badges on your main nintendo home screen

(and kinda ruins the badge organization)

[sharp aspen]

it's a good thing i will probably never enable nintendo's id on this 3ds again!

[elfin radish]

do keep a backup regardless

[sharp aspen]

nand time

[elfin radish]

no not nand

its like

a very specific folder

[sharp aspen]

is it one pre-set to the sd card or one i would have had to have extracted previously?

[elfin radish]

SD Card:\Nintendo 3DS[ID0][ID1]\extdata\00000000\000014d1

its one pre-set to the sd card

just look up 000014d1

[sharp aspen]

gotcha, found the folder

time to backread this chat and figure out how to proceed

[elfin radish]

this convo is scatteres across like 3 threads sooo

-back up the folder i asked you to

-make a folder called 'badges' within the sd card's root, entirely lowercase

-put sd card back into 3ds, boot up gytb (IN NINTENDO MODE). this will dump your badges into the folder

-swap to pretendo, run gytb again to get them into your profile

and youre done

[sharp aspen]

awesome, i'll try that! thank you!

[elfin radish]

badges on pretendo and a smashed badge arcade save!!! which you can restore w/ your backup, so dw

[wintry basalt]

@elfin radish Can you maybe write down what do to do step by step for this?
I am at work and can't do all that rn but would be cool to have here

[elfin radish]

perhaps after i rest,, its 3 am and im rather tired

[sharp aspen]

it worked! thank you~

[sharp aspen]

it's pretty much following from this message onwards

#1227137764529803294 message

that link to the folder backup and gytb launching

now to just figure out error 012-1511 so i can actually start using pretendo...

[sweet knot]

012-1511 (3DS/2DS)

Support code detected, press to expand information

[sharp aspen]

(the bot error message does not help)

[bitter bear]

Thanks to everyone on this thread that found solutions. FTPD decided to stop working for me today and I'd never used GYTB, but the steps here made it easy for me to transfer badges. The badges that launched into the settings,camera,etc. applications seem to just be decorative instead of functional now, but I imagine that's just how gytb processes things and not a major loss. Thanks all!

[elfin radish]

im weirdly flattered by the positive reception of this thread

[steep patrol]

probably already been said but this happens when multiple 3DS family systems have utilised one SD card

you can tell which is which via some fuckery and the codes on the folders inside

or by simply removing both and keeping them in a safe location, having the system make a new one, and seeing which one has a code that matches the code of the newly generated folder

[vagrant oyster]

Sorry if this has been asked before but I'm a bit confused with the process of injecting the badges using the Pretendo account. I was trying to get back the badges I was using with my Nintendo account and I lost them when switching, I decided to try the method that involves using the Advanced Badge Editor (ABE) and Simple Badge Injector (SBI) applications since I didn't want custom badges but the official ones I was using. I successfully dumped the badges I had using SBI in the Nintendo Account but I started having problems injecting them in the Pretendo account. I made a backup of everything and I deleted the Badge Arcade save data and 0x4d1 folder in the SD card to make life a bit easier for SBI, then I decrypted and extracted the badges I dumped using "allbadge-tool" and I imported them into ABE so I got 255 of each badge and then I exported the result as "BadgeData.dat" and "BadgeMngFile.dat", finally I transferred those files in the appropriate folders and launched SBI in the 3DS (using Pretendo) to create the needed folder in extdata and inject the badges. At first it seems like it's working but the badges keep disappearing after I reboot or launch something like Miiverse.

[dusk minnow]

Ok so I hear that going back into Nintendo network makes all your badges just die is there a way to like put them back in the case that ever happens to me

[elfin radish]

no its like

injecting badges into pretendo makes your badges die

[dusk minnow]

Wait so they’re already dead on the Nintendo side?

Damn

[elfin radish]

you can restore them by backing up a folder (SD Card:\Nintendo 3DS[ID0][ID1]\extdata\00000000\000014d1) before you use gytb n restoring it later

unfortunately restoring your nintendo badges kills your custom badges so. thats fun

[dusk minnow]

Damn that’s a really big oversight

Guess I just won’t switch back to Nintendo

I’ll backup those badges though in case and I can always just redownload the ones I get from theme plaza

[elfin radish]

your theme plaza wont get deleted but theyll get like,,, locked away? till you run gytb again

its a messy ordeal

[dusk minnow]

So like if I ever try to restore those official ones I just have to run gytb again to get back my custom ones

Or are they like lost forever

[elfin radish]

you just need to run gytb again, i believe

its essentially swapping back and forth constantly to restore different sets of badges. though PLEASE back up your vanilla badges folder bc if you dont then you fr just lose access to them

[dusk minnow]

I have to backup 000014d1 correct?

[elfin radish]

yup, that folder and everything in it

[dusk minnow]

Ok that’s backed up now

[elfin radish]

awesome! now your switching is a lot safer

[dusk minnow]

Im probably just not gonna switch back to Nintendo until this gets fixed

So if I ever do switch back to Nintendo I just gotta plop that folder back in the same spot it was before right

Doesn’t seem too bad but I’d rather just not risk anything

[vagrant oyster]

Does GYTB support official badges with the correct icons for each group of badges in the Home screen?

[elfin radish]

nope, gytb just turns them into png files and disorganizes them

[vagrant oyster]

Oh, that's what I don't want to do

Still preplexed by the fact my badges go away when I reset the console

I did link them with the PNID in the Advanced Badge Editor

This was the guide I was following btw: https://gbatemp.net/threads/get-any-official-badges-without-other-users-data.476300/

[elfin radish]

honestly someone else asked about sbi, and i had considered advanced badge editor. unfortunately pretendo and badges dont mix well whatsoever

[vagrant oyster]

Oh, so it may be something wonky with Nimbus?

Or is it because Pretendo doesn't support Badge Arcade?

[elfin radish]

its mostly due to how nintendo programmed badge arcade

they programmed it to run a check every time badge arcade was booted up, meaning that itd check for illegitimate badges and delete any foreign ones (since badge arcade saves are bound to the nnid)

[vagrant oyster]

That would explain badges going away when launching Badge Arcade but does it check every time you launch the Home menu?

[elfin radish]

this check means that running badge arcade would erase any custom badges from the home screen (at least gytb badges)

the check only ran when booting badge arcade

since badge arcade data is bound to your nnid and not your console, it removes all badges when moving to pretendo

trying to forcefully add badges to pretendo crosses a lot of wires. i believe gytb forces the 3ds to check a different directory? so when you go back to pretendo the console goes 'oh, our profile has no badges in the right directory, they all belong to the other one'

[vagrant oyster]

What if I uninstall the Badge Arcade title? The Simple Badge Injector homebrew does let you create the extdata folder from there

[elfin radish]

im unsure, really

i havent tested it since i unironically like badge arcade

[vagrant oyster]

I can't remember if it was included with later 3DS updates or if it was installed through the eShop. If it's the former it would be risky, but if it was the latter then I should try doing that

I would make a backup of the NAND before, of course

[elfin radish]

Yeah back up your nand and the official badge folder

[vagrant oyster]

Is that included in the "Nintendo 3DS" SD card folder?

[plush merlin]

this is what happened to me, yeah

[elfin radish]

Yup! I sent the exact directory above

[vagrant oyster]

Perfect, I already have a backup

Should I uninstall with FBI or from the settings? I'm tempted to delete the title, the ticket and save data using FBI

Well, sould I also delete the ticket anyways?

[elfin radish]

You can delete from system settings, it works fine

Maybe do it from your nintendo profile though

[vagrant oyster]

Yes, good idea

After doing that, I will manually delete the 0x4d1 folder using GodMode9 so I start from scratch

[plucky bone]

I just noticed that badges that were shortcuts to applications aren't acting as shortcuts after doing this. Is there any known wat to get this functionality back?

[elfin radish]

Someone mentioned needing to alter the badge file names to do that? I didn't attempt it myself

[dusk minnow]

Ok so really quick question that I’m asking for someone

If you only have official badges and just never use gytb how would you get them onto the pretendo side

[next zephyr]

I'm not sure

[plucky bone]

#1227137764529803294 message

[next zephyr]

I don't think you can

oh nvm

[dusk minnow]

That doesn’t answer much ngl

[plucky bone]

he was trying a diffrent method

[dusk minnow]

But would an easier solution be to just get them to download GYTB and use that

[next zephyr]

but first

wait

[dusk minnow]

They don’t have GYTB at this moment

[next zephyr]

copy the folder 000014d1 located at id0/id1/extdata/00000000

copy that folder to somewhere safe, like cloud backup, or backup harddrive

[dusk minnow]

Yea I warned them to do that first

[vagrant oyster]

If you are talking about my message, this was a different method to the one other people are using. I'm still experimenting with it

[dusk minnow]

They have a 3ds with CFW they just never downloaded GYTB since they had no interest in custom badges and just uses whatever official ones they have

[plucky bone]

I just made a copy of my SD bc it had been a wile since the last time anyway

[dusk minnow]

Would they have to use GYTB to transfer them over

[vagrant oyster]

Yes, this is my case. Also, If I'm understanding it correctly you need to feed them as PNGs and the Advanced Badge Editor doesn't have a button to export a group of badges to PNG (as far as I'm aware)

And you loose the groups with the official names and icons

[dusk minnow]

Yea I remember that happening when I first used it

[vagrant oyster]

I'm trying right now deleting the Badge Arcade just in case it solves my specific problem. I'll report back shortly

[plush merlin]

What is the theoretical solution deleting the badge arcade provides?

[vagrant oyster]

It may interfere with the process of injecting the badges using Simple Badge Injector, since Badge Arcade is programmed to check illegitimate badges

I think one of the things Badge Arcade does is create the needed extdata folders so the Home menu knows where to look for badges, but Simple Badge Injector also has the ability to create such save data

So in theory, you shouldn't need Badge Arcade

[plush merlin]

alright that makes sense. thanks for the explanation

[elfin radish]

You dont

[dusk minnow]

So they have to use GYTB then

Got it I’ll tell them rn ty

[gloomy linden]

I accidentally ran the program on Pretendo.

[elfin radish]

Did you have a backup of your official badges?

[gloomy linden]

I forgot.

[elfin radish]

My condolences.

[gloomy linden]

I’m an idiot.

[dusk minnow]

I mean there should be downloads of official ones somewhere on the internet so you can always get em back that way

At least I think

[gloomy linden]

I did.

[vagrant oyster]

For getting official badge data you may be able to use the "allbadge-tool" available in GitHub, You need a copy of the boot9 from your console, not going to link it here since I don't know if it would be considered the word that starts with the letter "p" (although I would question that since Nintendo no longer offers a way to get the data officially, but I'm not a lawyer)

[plush merlin]

i’m so sorry for your loss

[vagrant oyster]

BTW I had to modify the original message since I got temporarily silenced WTF

Ok, so deleting Nintendo Badge Arcade has no effect, my badges still go away on reboot

I wonder if there are some additional checks

Maybe something Luma3DS could patch in the future

Another possibility could be the system software being confused with the fact there are two accounts, I would assume they are isolated from each other but idk

[elfin radish]

Someone ported their badges over by just using checkpoint

[vagrant oyster]

What? Checkpoint didn't show me Badge Arcade

Maybe I was doing something wrong. I could try reinstalling the cia and the save data

I would still prefer having the possibility of injecting them in the future since it should be more flexible

[elfin radish]

the checkpoint solution involves uhhh

Its still WIP

But for official badges its backing up your EXTDATA through checkpoint, swapping to pretendo, then loading it

its unclear how custom badges will be solved

[plush merlin]

would this be a possible solution to use for badges disappearing completely? it seems plausible in my mind

[elfin radish]

Honestly? I was debating your case specifically when discussing this

Based on my precious deduction i doubt itll work, but it wont kill you to try. After all, youre not exactly gonna lose your badges even more

@dim ember spawner of the checkpoint solution

[dim ember]

I'm in

[plush merlin]

thank you both for the suggestion! I’ll check if badge arcade shows up in checkpoint

[dim ember]

Hit X to show extdata titles

Jksm also works if you have that

[plush merlin]

found it, backing up now

it took about 40 seconds to back up badges file, perhaps a good sign since i had over 1,000 badges?

[elfin radish]

yeah youve got a shitload of em

[dim ember]

Took a bit for me too, played it a lot way back when

[plush merlin]

so

[dim ember]

Downloading that homebrew badge app to see what all it does

[gloomy linden]

The folder is taking forever to copy.

[plush merlin]

i just realized the backup i made was IN the pretendo profile

[dim ember]

I mean, it might work? I've been swapping back and forth but I'm not sure how 3ds handles extdata with multiple profiles

There seems to be some kind of copy protection if it keeps sweeping the badges on reset

[kindred relic]

I just made a GameFAQs post about this. If it works for you, feel free to share it around
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/997614-nintendo-3ds/80743213

[dim ember]

Oh hey they made an app for that

I'll check it out since I've got my data backed up

[plush merlin]

since i just made the backup in the pretendo profile, does it seem possible to just reverse engineer the idea you guys gave? basically instead of restoring to the PNID, restoring to NNID? that’s where i want my badges to stay anyway

[dim ember]

If you didn't touch them before they should still be there

Just to be sure you're gonna want to make the backup on nnid just in case

So I downloaded gytb
Is it.. just making png copies of all my badges?

[plush merlin]

touch them in what way? the only things i’ve done are:
-when my badges disappeared from NNID last night, i unsuccessfully tried using GYTB to restore them as suggested by someone else on here
-opened the badge arcade once after trying GYTB

[dim ember]

They shouldn't have disappeared from your nnid to begin with though, I opened my themes shelf and they're still there

[plush merlin]

i thought so too, but when i open the badge selector it says “this feature cannot be used, because you don’t have any badges yet.”

[dim ember]

Even back in Nintendo? And you didn't do anything after installing nimbus?

[plush merlin]

yup, they disappeared after switching to PNID and checking MK7 to see if the servers worked. when i switched back to NNID, they were gone. i didn’t touch the badges or even consider moving them to PNID

[dim ember]

That's just odd, they didn't work in pnid but switching back to Nintendo brought them back for me

[plush merlin]

yeah my situation is definitely a slightly bigger mystery than others who have actually tried to transfer their badges, mine just disappeared on their own

[dim ember]

Ok just installed gytb and I suddenly have like every badge ever made does it normally do that

Wait maybe it's just my badges and I had more than I thought, they all have crowns next to them now

[rigid depot]

how do I fix this

[dim ember]

Did you open the badge shelf in themes?

[rigid depot]

I think so

[dim ember]

You're in the Nintendo account not the pretendo account right?

[rigid depot]

Yes

I don’t think I’ve opened the badge shelf in pretendo mode

[dim ember]

Try scrolling through your badges for a bit

[rigid depot]

Using pretendo account?

Or Nintendo account

I don’t want to screw anything up lol

[dim ember]

Open original Nintendo account, scroll through badges a bit, open gytb again

Make sure you have a badges folder in the root of your SD card

[rigid depot]

I have the badges folder, I’ll scroll through and try gytb again

Still getting the same thing

I slowly scrolled through all my badges twice

Also I’m trying to use gbty as a 3dsx, not sure if that could mess up anything

[dim ember]

Maybe try the cia

Cia just worked for me

[rigid depot]

Alr

Lets go

for some reason the cia just works

uhhhh what happened to my badges in the shelf

all the categories are gone

[dim ember]

I noticed that, little crowns right?

[rigid depot]

yeah

[dim ember]

At least they're there

[rigid depot]

yeah ig so, still odd though

[dim ember]

So another mystery solved, use the cia
Need a pinned list

[rigid depot]

I’m guessing there’s no way to go back to the old shelf layout?

Also I had 391 badges and now I have 389

[dim ember]

You probably can but it probably involves uninstalling the badge app, I gotta read up on documentation

[rigid depot]

So uninstalling the gytb cia?

[dim ember]

Don't do it if you aren't sure, I haven't read up on it

[vagrant oyster]

Wait, this is the same procedure I used. Did I do something wrong?

[placid elk]

hey so i'm following through this, i'm at the point where i'm in SBI at the end, and injecting custom badge data is failing for me

[vagrant oyster]

You may have to delete the 0x4d1 extdata folder. I'm assuming you've done a backup before doing anything just in case

[placid elk]

yeah, i did

[vagrant oyster]

I had to delete using GodMode9

[placid elk]

alright, i'll try that and see if it works

[dim ember]

Do not delete anything!

Is that how people are losing badges??

[vagrant oyster]

Well, if a backup is available it shouldn't be harmful in theory. That's why I asked if the user had a backup

[high pilot]

What folder contains your badges again?

[dim ember]

Make sure you're using the latest edition of gytb

Apparently you can switch back to original badges by opening badge arcade, I can test that real quick

[vagrant oyster]

You mean using Nintendo account, right? Badge Arcade can't be opened in Pretendo

[dim ember]

Yes

[vagrant oyster]

I see

In the case of Badge Arcade it could help going to the help desk

[placid elk]

to be clear: i ran badge arcade while i was using pretendo, have i actually lost anything permanently yet?

[dim ember]

...did you back up your extdata

[vagrant oyster]

Did it say something about creating new save data?

[placid elk]

no, it was just a popup with something along the lines of "NNID does not match registered ones, badges have been deleted"

[dim ember]

Oh no

[placid elk]

almost certain i did somewhere

[placid elk]

ur talking about the like 000014d1 folder right

or am i being dumb.

[vagrant oyster]

Yep, that's what happened to me also when opening Badge Arcade using Pretendo

[dim ember]

That's how people are wiping their badges...

[vagrant oyster]

In my case I still have the entire "Nintendo 3DS" folder so the extdata is there somewhere

It's always reccommended to do that anyways

[plush merlin]

the only time i opened the badge arcade was in NNID, and it said the service was no longer available. so i don’t think i wiped my badges like that?

[placid elk]

yeah i found a pretty old backup, but i think it should still have all my badges in it

[vagrant oyster]

In this case your badges should still be intact

That's the standard message

[placid elk]

wait so if you switch back to NNID, can you still see your badges?

for me when i swap back, they're all there

[plush merlin]

i may or may not have a backup of my 3DS, but i’m really not sure

[vagrant oyster]

Not in my case since I deleted things on purpose for experimentation

But I think I can go back by reinstalling Badge Arcade and the correct folders

[plush merlin]

these are the only files i have in my 3DS backups folder

[placid elk]

i see

[vagrant oyster]

That looks like the sysnand

It's highly advisable to also make backups of the "Nintendo 3DS" and "private" folders from the SD card

Those are were the extdata and other user data folders are

[elfin radish]

this badge issue has evolved heavily

[dim ember]

Opening badge arcade in Pretendo on accident has borked things a bit on my end

Good thing I tried gytb first...

[vagrant oyster]

Yeah, the funny thing is I already kind of knew about this months ago but I didn't think too much about it back then

[elfin radish]

"Ah! Cool club penguin badges!"

-3deri before this transpired

[dim ember]

So opening badge arcade in an account not your original permanently deleted your badge arcade save and ext data

[vagrant oyster]

I mean this kind of things are bound to happen with console hacking

[dim ember]

You can restore it with a backup but without Nintendo network it can't verify your badges are real and won't accept them, leaving you with gytb

[elfin radish]

I cant imagine how pretendo would run badge checks. Hopefully it wont run any because this is already messy

[vagrant oyster]

I'm glad I didn't spend money on badges, that's why I only had a few of them

[dim ember]

I don't think it can since that service was private

[elfin radish]

I know pretendo will restore badge arcade with custom badges, they confirmed that

[rigid depot]

where is the badge folder in backups

[vagrant oyster]

Great! Bowsette badge will be a thing then?

[vagrant oyster]

I think it was mentioned in this chat, can someone paste it?

[elfin radish]

Ill get it

[vagrant oyster]

Thanks

[rigid depot]

here’s one

I don’t see the id0 folder

[vagrant oyster]

That's a placeholder, it should be a long string of numbers and letters unique to your console

[rigid depot]

uh I have like 8 of those folders

[vagrant oyster]

Hmm, I only have one of them, maybe that card went through several Nintendo accounts?

I don't know which one could be, someone else will have to chime in

[rigid depot]

granted this was a backup from like 4 years ago, but I haven’t touched badge arcade since

Found the folder in fbi

[vagrant oyster]

Yes, that look like it, maybe it's time to make another backup

[rigid depot]

yeah I’m about to do that

[vagrant oyster]

Remember kids, backups should be done on a regular basis!

I learnt that the hard way 🙂

I have good news

I have successfully injected badges using Advanced Badge Editor and Simple Badge Injector somehow, now they are kept across reboots!

[dusk minnow]

Hello I’m reading through the developments of this predicament have we solved the problem yet?

[vagrant oyster]

I have no idea what was wrong, I suspect clicking the button to give 255 of each badge in the editor somehow made everything go wrong

Or at least that's the best theory I have for now

So for official badges the gamefaq that was linked by @kindred relic should work

[dusk minnow]

At least we have some resolution

I can just redownload custom badges it’s not that big of a deal for those

[vagrant oyster]

Yes, I can sense a FAQ being written from all this

The GBATemp post I linked before should work for Nintendo Network IDs, but for PNIDs you shouldn't give yourself 255 of each badge. Or maybe I just made a typo in the PNID when I used the program idk

[dusk minnow]

Man they really oughta fix this because its honestly a really big oversight

[plush merlin]

i’m honestly not that broken up about the official static badges since the badge arcade app doesn’t even open anymore, and i can always inject them. my biggest issue is getting back the function badges

[vagrant oyster]

Considering they don't have access to official documentation or source code it's impressive this is the only thing that can go wrong. Let's give the devs the credit they deserve

[polar linden]

There is another homebrew called "Simple Badge Injector" that saves categories and shelf data as well

[dim ember]

It's not an oversight as much as a consequence of how Nintendo runs badges

[vagrant oyster]

Really? Can you link it?

[plush merlin]

is it possible that this is where my badges are? the badge shelf says it’s empty, so this might be the solution to find them?

[dusk minnow]

I’m glad there’s at least some solution but I’m probably just gonna play it safe and wait until they fix it

For now I’m stuck in pretendo land yayy

[vagrant oyster]

Maybe they can implement a transfer function in Nimbus

[polar linden]

Oh it looks like you've tried to use it already

[vagrant oyster]

Oh, so you were talking about Simple Badge Injector

I can confirm it does work and you get categories

[kindred relic]

I did some thinking in the shower and if it isn’t working, back up the .bat files on your computer and try to create ext data in SBI. The process I outlined worked fine for me, but I had previously been using SBI for custom badges.

[vagrant oyster]

What .bat file?

[dim ember]

1. Badges are connected and verified via nnid, switching to Pretendo means your nnid no longer matches the one attached to your badges so they disappear

2. Opening badge arcade with a different nnid than you originally used with it permanently wipes you badge save and badges, unless you've backed them up manually or with checkpoint/jksv

3. Using the latest gytb copies all your badges from existing extdata but you lose categories, but you can use badges without losing the ones on your menu when you reset the console

[vagrant oyster]

BTW, Advanced Badge Editor works in Wine, for Linux and Mac users

[kindred relic]

The ones dumped by SBI. There are two of them, and they are the files that ABE reads

[dim ember]

Using outdated gytb might wipe original badges, apparently it used to do that

[vagrant oyster]

Oh sorry, I thought you ware talking about a Windows batch file

[plush merlin]

i’d love to know why GYTB tell me i have no official badges to dump

[kindred relic]

Oh yeah, nope. It’s just the badge files

[dim ember]

Did you open badge arcade and is your gytb latest cia version

[vagrant oyster]

I should say that before I wiped my badge data just going back to Nintendo ID got all my badges back

[dim ember]

Just switching accounts doesn't wipe data, but opening badge arcade with the wrong account will

[plush merlin]

opened badge arcade once in NNID only, not PNID, and i downloaded GYTB last night so it should be

[elfin radish]

is the latest version on universal updater, or just the github? i don't have my 3ds on me, so i'm taking notes for when i get back home

[dim ember]

I used the latest cia from universal updater

[plush merlin]

i believe i got it from universal updater, let me check the version

[dim ember]

I didn't have problems until I started touched badge arcade, now I gotta use gytb

[elfin radish]

hm. i might have to update it, since i only got it... what, two months ago?

[plush merlin]

well the GYTB on universal updater says its version 1.0 from 2/2/2019

[rigid depot]

Oh sick, does this work if I’ve already used gytb?

[plush merlin]

looking online that seems to be the latest version unless i’m missing something

[dim ember]

Looks like it, GitHub just mentioned it USED to wipe original badges

[elfin radish]

i mean, it is correct. gytb doesn't wipe official badges on the nintendo profile (i think?)

[plush merlin]

then where tf did my badges go lmfao this is so confusing to figure out

[polar linden]

This really is a problem for people who care about their badge collection:

• Using GYTB saves all your badges as plain images with no Categories or other data, and old versions of GYTB delete your real badges when it's done (make sure to update GYTB)
• Signing into Badge Arcade on Pretendo Network clears your badges on the 3DS because of a different account ID (Don't launch Badge Arcade, it's useless now)
• Anyone who used Badge Boxes to store more than 100 badges only has one Badge Box saved on their 3DS, the rest are on dead Nintendo servers

If you want to back up your badges fully and have them displayed on the Home Menu like the real thing, There is another homebrew called "Simple Badge Injector" that saves categories and shelf data as well

[rigid depot]

from my knowledge that was the last time Cheeze worked on 3ds stuff, so that date sounds about right lol

[elfin radish]

that's me! i'm the guy who cares about their badge collection!

[plush merlin]

and me! but i guess a bunch of my badges are dead lmfao

[vagrant oyster]

Forgot about the Badge Box stuff, big oof

[dim ember]

Sadly there isn't much Pretendo can do about most of this, it's how Nintendo set up badges to work

[elfin radish]

badge box badges are just gone entirely, sad that the whole 'back them up' video didnt spread further

[dim ember]

The badge injector is probably the "best" way to backup badges, with gytb being the quick and easy way

[vagrant oyster]

Oblivion horse armor situation

[plush merlin]

thankfully i remember moving the badges i didn’t care much about into the badge box, but i really just want my functional badges back

[dim ember]

I don't remember what badge box did, I haven't used badge arcade in years

Maybe I just never had too many

[dim ember]

Can't you still buy horse armor

[vagrant oyster]

You can?

[rigid depot]

dyk what specific versions of gytb delete badges after finishing?

[dim ember]

Xbox 360 store is still going, as is PS3 but with restrictions

[dim ember]

Just get the version on universal updater

Or the github

Don't download random versions

[vagrant oyster]

That could be figured out from the GitHub commits

[elfin radish]

im backreading this chat jesus christ what a threatening text

[dim ember]

I'd just done the same thing so my heart sank twice 😫

[vagrant oyster]

I think I found the commit that fixed GYTB: https://github.com/MrCheeze/GYTB/commit/77816275fcb574743edc0ba93f54eb32f6af972e

OMG 9 years ago...

[dim ember]

Makes you remember that 3ds is practically a retro system

[rigid depot]

ok cool, so it is fixed on the version from universal updater

which is the version I used at least

[elfin radish]

im considering making a brief 'faq' message and asking Agent B to pin it,,, or at least keep it around so we can bump it and not have to reiterate the same question several times

any suggestions on what i should add to this message?

[vagrant oyster]

Yes please

[dim ember]

I think it's mostly settled?

[plush merlin]

i’m twisting my brain in every possible direction trying to figure out WHAT i did that caused the badges to disappear. i didn’t do any of the other triggers for deletion that most people here have done, so what caused it??

[rigid depot]

ima finish backing up my stuff then try deleting the “badges” folder, and using Simple Badge Injector

[dim ember]

Don't open badge arcade in Pretendo, back up your data, use badge injector or gytb

[plush merlin]

YES PLEASE.

[vagrant oyster]

I think there should be two separate pinned messages for custom badges (GYTB) and official ones (Advanced Badge Editor and Simple Badge Injector)

[elfin radish]

what had you done right before they got deleted? start over real quick, i wanna remember

[elfin radish]

id need to be given the SBI and ABI info because, quite frankly, im unfamiliar with both

[polar linden]

Mostly everything in this message #1227137764529803294 message
Plus a link to the latest GYTB and Simple Badge Injector and any other information I might have missed

[elfin radish]

thanks! i'll get to writing it

[dim ember]

I've got the QR code for universal updater handy if you want it

[polar linden]

Maybe make it an announcement too to make sure everyone knows about it

[vagrant oyster]

I started with this well written guide: https://gbatemp.net/threads/get-any-official-badges-without-other-users-data.476300/

But you need to change the give yourself 255 of each badge part as it seems to cause problems

Or maybe it was my problem I would like for someone else to confirm that step

[elfin radish]

@ EVERYBODY IN THE SERVER. PLEASE LOOK AT THIS GUIDE HIDDEN WITHIN A SPECIFIC THREAD RAN BY ROUGHLY 30 RANDOM PEOPLE WHO JUST LIKE BADGES A LOT

[dim ember]

Hehe

[dusk minnow]

Badges are awesome we ain’t losing all of them

[vagrant oyster]

I heard someone say Discord is a black hole of information, now I get it...

[elfin radish]

this is a documentation hellscape but i dont care im too passionate about my badges

[dim ember]

What if wikis were written with skype

[polar linden]

Steal my guide and dotpoints, make some changes and try to get a moderator to post it in #faq and #announcements

[elfin radish]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-cat-dance-petit-poney-petit-poney-meme-dancing-cat-gif-25085641

wrong emote fuck

[dusk minnow]

[elfin radish]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1109314566170611747/1219456644996399204/attachment.gif

ok there

[vagrant oyster]

For something more formal I would put it on the Pretendo site, the 3DS hacks guide or GBATemp (modifying the already existing one, I may get in contact with the author of the post)

[polar linden]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1075862646097723543/1090669195328499853/0EB70CAC-AD82-4E4E-9D9B-4CAB6B2733EF-1.gif

[dusk minnow]

boykisser…

[polar linden]

men to look at the badge arcade guide*

[elfin radish]

honestly i do want to get in contact with a mod because a lot of people want their badges and will be confused

[dim ember]

Glad badge nerds probably backed up every badge released

[elfin radish]

I NEED MEN TO FIGHT THIS FUCKING WAR!!!!!!!!!! WE CAN'T LOSE THE BADGES

[dim ember]

Even if people lose them we can probably fix it

[vagrant oyster]

You could get them from CDN

But they are encrypted with boot9 keys

[plush merlin]

from the VERY beginning:

-downloaded nimbus, switched to PNID. badges were gone, freaked out a little, switched back to NNID, badges were there again. shrugged and moved back to PNID
-created a PNID after jumping through some errors, finally established my PNID. tried testing MK7 servers out of curiosity, they were down. shrugged and closed MK7
-moved back to NNID since there was no reason to be in PNID if servers were overloaded/down. in NNID, badges are now gone. it begins.

[dusk minnow]

hence forth we are the Nintendo badge brigade

we fight for what we want most out of life

[elfin radish]

what the fuck

(badges)

[dusk minnow]

our silly little badges

[elfin radish]

(funny pngs on a 13 year old console)

OKAY i need to write the faq

[vagrant oyster]

I haven't checked but there is the high possibility of all badges still being hosted in Nintendo CDNs

I did some hoarding before the servers shutdown

[plush merlin]

-after seeing badges are gone, i look around on here for help. download and try to use GYTB, doesn’t work, place “badges” folder on SD root, try again, still doesn’t work.
-try opening badge arcade in NNID, says service has ended. nothing changes
-been at this point since last night

[dim ember]

If you backed up your 3ds beforehand you might be able to restore the extdata to wherever gytb reads it from

I can't open my original badges on my nnid but gytb can still read a restored extdata backup

[rigid depot]

wait how come you can’t open you nnid badges

[dim ember]

Opened badge arcade in the wrong account on accident, but I made a backup beforehand so I didn't lose my badges forever

[vagrant oyster]

Well, I just checked. The CDNs for the badges are still up and running, so if you can't access the badges any other way there's always the possibility of downloading them with "allbadge-tool" from GitHub

Of course, no one knows until when

[dim ember]

Reminder that opening badge arcade with mismatched account data, even without Pretendo, causes it to wipe any existing badge data

[dusk minnow]

So like I mentioned earlier I can’t go back to nnid because that’ll nuke all my badges so am I just screwed if I wanna try that method from the faq

[polar linden]

@left wagon @cosmic rose
Badges are being deleted from people's modded 3DS' because of bugs in Nintendo Badge Arcade and GYTB Homebrew. Some people have spent lots of real-world money on these things and we are getting lots of complaints/questions about in the Discord about it.

The post I'm replying to has some steps people could take to properly back up badges and stop them from being lost. Could we try to make an #faq or #announcements post telling people how to save their badges properly.

Sorry I really don't know who to ask about this so I pinged some online moderators

[dusk minnow]

I have em backed up and everything but like my customs are gonna die as well

[dim ember]

Why would going back to nnid nuke your badges again?

[vagrant oyster]

Good summary

[left wagon]

basically. DON'T OPEN BADGE ARCADE IN YOUR PNID

[vagrant oyster]

This

[left wagon]

you will lose your badges if you start it there.

[dusk minnow]

I thought that’s what would happen idk this thread is so long I’m forgetting stuff 💀

Is it safe to go back or?

[dim ember]

Provided you never open badge arcade yes

[vagrant oyster]

As long as you don't open Badge Arcade in PNID you should be fine

[dusk minnow]

Well I haven’t opened it in a good while so i guess I’m fine lmao

Hopefully

[dim ember]

Badge data deletion also isn't a problem with Pretendo itself but would happen with another nnid too

So people need to not bug Pretendo devs about that

[vagrant oyster]

Yeah, I guess something similar would happen when changing NNIDs, but I think Nintendo does warn you about it when deleting an account

[dim ember]

Pretendo devs recommend not deleting your original nnid for stability reasons I believe

[elfin radish]

Welcome to the Badge Brigade Help Desk! We are a thread of people attempting to solve badge concerns that come with the migration from Nintendo to Pretendo! This is our small FAQ to help you get started.

My badges vanished when I switched to Pretendo!

This is normal! Pretendo profiles are separate from Nintendo profiles, meaning that your badges will not carry over between both profiles. This is simply a limitation of Pretendo as a program.

Just inject your badges into your Pretendo using Give You This Badge (GYTB)!

• Using GYTB saves all your badges as plain images with no Categories or other data, and old versions of GYTB delete your real badges when it's done.
• Signing into Badge Arcade on Pretendo Network completely deletes your badges on the 3DS because of a different account ID (Don't launch Badge Arcade, it's useless now! IT WILL ACTUALLY DELETE YOUR BADGES.)
• Anyone who used Badge Boxes to store more than 100 badges only has one Badge Box saved on their 3DS, the rest are on dead Nintendo servers.

Using GYTB results in you losing access to your official badges on the Nintendo side, meaning that you will only be able to keep your badges on one profile at a time.

How do I prevent being locked out of my official badges?

Back up your official badge directory into a safe spot! You can find this directory in:

SD Card:\Nintendo 3DS[ID0][ID1]\extdata\00000000\000014d1

(Keep in mind that ID0 and ID1 are placeholder numbers and can vary.)

For safety's sake, it's best to back up the entire Nintendo 3DS folder. Better safe than sorry!

Can I use Simple / Advanced Badge Injector to load my badges?

We've attached these guide to get you started: https://gbatemp.net/threads/get-any-official-badges-without-other-users-data.476300/ and https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/997614-nintendo-3ds/80743213

We haven't really dont much research into SBI and ABI, but you're free to try!

will add more info but uhhh

what do yall think of this wip

defo need more info for sbi and abi, and will definitely add the 'DONT OPEN BADGE ARCADE ON PNID AND DONT DELETE YOUR NNID'

bc im mad as hell that folks just wanna delete their nnid

[vagrant oyster]

Seems like a good start, although I would advise backing up the entire Nintendo 3DS folder just in case

[dusk minnow]

I have 2 backups of that folder im probably good in that regard

[vagrant oyster]

It would also be a good idea to add my advice of not giving yourself 255 of each badge if using Advanced badge Editor, at least until someone confirms that

[elfin radish]

dont check general chat

im in class and i check general and its porn

👍 awesome

[dusk minnow]

The general here? 😭

[dim ember]

Man I wish it was porn, earlier somebody posted a beheading

That's gonna be in my subconscious who knows how long

[elfin radish]

#pretendo is porn and #offtopic is transphobia. pick your poison modern folk

[elfin radish]

i saw the beheading yesterday lmao (with my next therapy appointment booked)

[vagrant oyster]

Wait, I don't see anything, unless you consider Saul Goodman to be pr0n

[dim ember]

It gets deleted fast

Thankfully

[vagrant oyster]

Oh, so normal Discord stuff

[dusk minnow]

[vagrant oyster]

Thank god I'm not fast at looking stuff

[elfin radish]

the agony.

[polar linden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1196369112725725195/1227115544189079592/i-text.gif

[elfin radish]

WELL alright do yall want anything added to it or should i ask B to pin it and change the thread name

[vagrant oyster]

I already said everything I had to add

[errant shell]

tried this guide with SBI and it still didn’t work 🥲

[rigid depot]

Alongside this, using GYTB results in you losing access to your official badges on the Nintendo side, meaning that you will only be able to keep your badges on one profile at a time.

what exactly does this mean?

[elfin radish]

ok like

using gytb in pretendo to import badges

it locks you out of placing badges on the nintendo profile

[vagrant oyster]

See my previous messages, also read this: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/997614-nintendo-3ds/80743213

[rigid depot]

oh ok

I haven't done that then

[elfin radish]

adding this to the sbi section

[dusk minnow]

Oh so I keep them on the Nintendo side but I can’t do anything with them

[elfin radish]

i mean you cant see them either

it just goes 'you dont have badges!' and leaves your home screen bald and naked

[dusk minnow]

But they’re still there right

[elfin radish]

in your files yes

but they dont become viable for backing up bc something about gytb modifies them

[dusk minnow]

It’s only when opening badge arcade on pretendo where they die

[elfin radish]

nnnno

in my case they died when i just dumped them into my pretendo profile

(i had a backup so i restored them)

[dusk minnow]

Huh weird since I dumped them into pretendo no problem

[rigid depot]

wait seriously

[dusk minnow]

Same layout and everything

[rigid depot]

so I can't restore them back to normal if I usedgytb

[elfin radish]

someone who gave the solution specified that the backup had to be from before you used gytb

im going off their word

[elfin radish]

have you checked on your nintendo profile yet?

[dusk minnow]

No I’m too scared to go back lmao

[elfin radish]

go back.

then you will see what i saw.

the horrors

[dusk minnow]

In a bit I’m downloading something rn

[vagrant oyster]

All this badges will be lost in time, like tears in the rain...

[dusk minnow]

Oh I’ve seen the empty badgeless Home Screen when I first loaded pretendo

Absolute horror

[elfin radish]

if im right then thats what your nintendo profile looks like now

[dusk minnow]

[elfin radish]

YEAH THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SOLVE

and giraffe's lost-in-the-void badges of course

[plush merlin]

fuck it didn’t post as a gif

[elfin radish]

@somber jetty hey do you mind pinning this message and changing the thread name to like. '3ds badges help desk' or something? im sorry we took over your thread we just got a whole operation going on here

[vagrant oyster]

When you see your Home screen without badges for the first time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=102_iWHTvfY

[somber jetty]

lol it’s ok

[elfin radish]

thank you 👍 we like pngs here

[plush merlin]

i have no clue how to post gifs here so i guess it’ll just be that static image of them holding hands

[vagrant oyster]

I'm more of a TIFF guy

[elfin radish]

bro its a gif its moving n shit

[somber jetty]

Wait, how do I pin on mobile?

[dusk minnow]

Nope it’s giffing for me they are waving

[rigid depot]

oh fuck I can't back up my Nintendo 3DS folder

[elfin radish]

long tap the message, then press pin

[elfin radish]

wym you cant

[rigid depot]

getting errors when trying to copy

[dusk minnow]

Odd

[vagrant oyster]

What kind of errors?

[elfin radish]

wtffff

[somber jetty]

It doesn’t show up

[elfin radish]

what're you doing it with? ftpd?

[plush merlin]

oh thank god it’s just sitting still on my end lmfao

[elfin radish]

huh. damn

[vagrant oyster]

Ah yes, macOS cryptic error messages

[elfin radish]

for some reason i cant favorite this gif and that scares me. cursed gif

[dusk minnow]

can’t stand macOS

[elfin radish]

are you doing it wirelessly??

[rigid depot]

no it's plugged in

[elfin radish]

weird. odd, even

[rigid depot]

it just won't copy this specific folder for some reason

[plush merlin]

as a mac user i wish i could help solve this but i've very very rarely gotten this error and never when transferring files on 3ds. have you tried moving it to a different location than the one that gave you the error??

[elfin radish]

i fucking hate macbooks raaaa. time to help you copy this file

[vagrant oyster]

It could be the adapter, inconsistent filesystem or cosmic rays

[rigid depot]

mac is def helping in my "fuck your badges lmao" situation rn

[rigid depot]

wdym

[vagrant oyster]

Back when I used Mac i used to get the classic Error -36

[elfin radish]

https://iboysoft.com/wiki/error-code-100060.html

[plush merlin]

you're trying to copy that file to i assume a safe backup folder on your mac, right? so have you tried not putting it in that folder and instead placing it on the desktop or a different folder to test if it gives the same error?

[rigid depot]

oh I haven't tried that no, will do rn

[vagrant oyster]

I would also try the terminal, but that's me

[rigid depot]

ok I just went through copying each file manually and the only file that is giving the error is the "title" file

[elfin radish]

question

have you used gytb before

[rigid depot]

not before 3 hours ago

[elfin radish]

🤔

fascinating.

well that's just my nutcase theory, but that implies something's wrong with the integrity of the file

[vagrant oyster]

Would it be good to run a filesystem check in this case?

[rigid depot]

honestly I think the error is prob bc my sd card is slowas hell for some reason

[vagrant oyster]

Or would it potentially destroy something?

[vagrant oyster]

I've had a lot of Kingston micro SD cards die back in the DS flashcart era

[rigid depot]

yeah mine is a sandisk but it's 9+ years old

[vagrant oyster]

Still weird

Is macOS Disk Utility capable of analyzing errors in FAT32 disks?

[rigid depot]

just for reference anytime I try to record a vid on my 3ds it says “could not write to fast enough” and corrupts the vid

so it’s most likely a weird sd thing

[elfin radish]

disk utility can format to fat32, so thats a good sign

[vagrant oyster]

That kind of stuff happens when a micro SD card is dying, I've seen it before

[elfin radish]

so your sd card's old as hell, got it

[rigid depot]

no idea

[rigid depot]

yeah lmao

should I transfer my stuff onto a new one

[vagrant oyster]

Copy everything that you can without errors and try to check the disk using Disk Utility

[rigid depot]

ok I got the “title” file to copy without errors, it just took forever

[vagrant oyster]

Well that was close, you should still check it and replace it though

[rigid depot]

yeah def will do very soon

[elfin radish]

128 sandisk for 20 american smackers,,,

[dusk minnow]

[rigid depot]

I kinda want to stay with 32 g card since it’s faster for home buffering lol

but yeah either way I’ll move everything over

[elfin radish]

then stay with your 32 🫡 i just like big space

[vagrant oyster]

That has to do a lot with the cluster size used when formatting the SD card, I think it is explained how to do it correctly for the 3DS in the 3DS hacks guide

I'm using a 128 GB Samsung EVO and it's not that slow if i format it correctly

[rigid depot]

oh sick, I didn’t know there was a certain cluster size it needed to be

[dim ember]

Been at work setting up advanced badge editor and it's very interesting

[rigid depot]

a few people in the mm3d speedrunning discord found 32 g to be the fastest but idk how much testing they did

[elfin radish]

32g is the fastest because its the highest the 3ds is meant to handle

[rigid depot]

but anyway this is kinda getting off the “our badges are dying” topic

[elfin radish]

128g is the most it can handle without starting to break some graphics, but it loads faster than you think if you format it right

[rigid depot]

yeah makes sense

[elfin radish]

(pretendo then slows it down severely)

[vagrant oyster]

That's just a limitation of the filesystem, SDXC cards come with exFAT as default which is incompatible, but you can use any filesystem in them. So it has nothing to do with hardware really

[dim ember]

I've got my and all the badge data loaded

[plush merlin]

i was considering using a spare 64GB sd for my n3dsxl but honestly i have enough problems to deal with in the pretendo world to care about more storage

[elfin radish]

oh fr? i thought anything higher was slower bc the 3ds had to read all that empty space

[dim ember]

How many badges can one system handle anyway?

[elfin radish]

300 per home screen, 1000 in the badge drawer

[vagrant oyster]

That's what the cluster size should fix

And cluster size is dependent on the size of the SD

[elfin radish]

cluster sizes are a miracle

[vagrant oyster]

In reality it's old FAT32 cruft that I'm glad we don't have to deal with in modern devices

[elfin radish]

👍 awesome, you're safe

are we trying to solve anything in specific rn? (beyond giraffe's thing) or do we just hate the jank rn

[dim ember]

Looks like badge injector removes all possible jank provided you responsibly back up your data

[elfin radish]

how much is the average pretendo user gonna figure this out on their own

[dim ember]

The average Pretendo user doesn't know how to make a pnid

[vagrant oyster]

The funny question

[rigid depot]

ok I found the 14d1 file in an old backup, is this presumably the only file that gytb is fucking with?

[elfin radish]

in this thread i can finally fully state how much the lack of tech literacy ive seen has gobsmacked me

and im really tech illiterate myself

[elfin radish]

yup, that's the main one

[rigid depot]

alr cool

[vagrant oyster]

Oh, I discovered something interesting about injecting badges, you need to add all you want in a single package because it will replace everything when injecting

[elfin radish]

oh?

through sbi?

[vagrant oyster]

Yes

I added another pack and it replaced the one I had

Keep in mind there's the badge limit, it was 1000 right?

[elfin radish]

1k, yes

[vagrant oyster]

I mean, if you reach that limit then you have a serious badge hoarding problem

[rigid depot]

ok I just finished copying the old data and deleted the “badges” file (I backed everything up), gonna check to see if my badges are back to normal

prayge

[elfin radish]

Praying

[rigid depot]

LFG

thank gosh dude

[dim ember]

Is that good

Phew

[rigid depot]

yes

fixed all the gytb stuff at least

[plush merlin]

look at you getting your shit back!! congrats man!

[vagrant oyster]

I'm glad you were able to fix it!

[elfin radish]

😭 im so sorry

[rigid depot]

ty dude 🙂 very lucky that I had a random backup from 4+ years ago which didn’t have me touch anything, prob would’ve been screwed otherwise

hoping you can fix everything on your end 🙏

[vagrant oyster]

I'm also seeing categories there. Does GYTB also give them?

[rigid depot]

nope

[vagrant oyster]

Oh, so it's SBI

[rigid depot]

I just restored everything from before them

[rigid depot]

nope 🙃

[vagrant oyster]

OK, now I understand

[plush merlin]

thanks man i appreciate it, hopefully something can be fixed for me but we shall see

[rigid depot]

always light at the end of the tunnel

so as long as I don’t touch badge arcade or gytb, all my badges should be fine? (on nnid)

[dim ember]

Only weird issue I'm having is advanced badge editor says I have 65535 of all my badges and that my file is European, wonder if there's an issue with my backup

The badges are correct though

[rigid depot]

weird

[dusk minnow]

Just realized an issue with me staying in pnid and that’s that Pokémon bank won’t work

[dim ember]

Oh man there's gonna be so many why can't I bank posts

[dusk minnow]

Maybe I will chime back into nnid even if I have to see that ugly badgeless screen

I’ll still have everything back in pnid right

[elfin radish]

yup

[elfin radish]

OH MY GOD YOURE RIGHT

[dim ember]

Yeah nimbus just switches what account loads

My badge file is a little messed up so I'm just gonna import whatever sets I had from scratch

Aw all the pokemon sprite badges take up all the space I gotta pick and choose :(

[dim ember]

Man I wish I could get preview images without having to load them in, going on filenames is hard even when you know some of the jp names for things

[elfin radish]

on what, exactly?

the 3ds directly, or windows?

[dim ember]

On windows, they're a special file format instead of like pngs

[elfin radish]

ohh, that explains it better

[dim ember]

Some sets can have like a hundred badges, I don't need every badge from every set so I gotta narrow it down

[dim ember]

@pseudo marsh read up through this thread we've been working through stuff

If you backed up your badge arcade extdata you can recover it with badge injector

[plush merlin]

looks like another victim has been claimed in the massacre

https://discord.com/channels/408718485913468928/1227450897785815060

[elfin radish]

https://tenor.com/view/knjpopper-devastated-falling-knees-on-gif-20304044

this cant keep happening

[elfin radish]

jesus soprano youre a godsend out there helping folks

ive been searching for mentions of badges to spread the word and i just see you everywhere

[dim ember]

I have too much free time

[elfin radish]

in my case ive been procrastinating by offering tech support

[pseudo marsh]

i have been claimed in a foolish manner >.< does anyone know whet the name for this badge collection is?

[elfin radish]

that is the pixel consoles collection

i know this bc its my favorite collection and the one i use for icons

lemme open my 3ds actually ive got my badges here

[pseudo marsh]

im asking cause im trying to find it through the file names to re put them on my 3ds

[elfin radish]

dude i had a fucking heart attack

my home screen was bald when i booted up the console and then i remembered i was on pretendo mode

ok yeah that is officially the Pixel Collection

this is actually all 6+ pixel collection sets! i didnt even know they had birds in it: i only got the console ones

(fixed a typo)

[pseudo marsh]

I found it in the dump file names its called DOTHARD in the files XD

[elfin radish]

oh good

[spark aurora]

hey so im also having the same issue, i just downloaded and launched pretendo today.

do I just use GYTB and my badges should be on the pretendo account?

or am i misreading

[dim ember]

Gytb saves them as pngs and loads them it's own way, without any sorting
It works though

The "right" way is more complicated

[spark aurora]

ok, just making sure. I'll put up with no organization

thank you

[dim ember]

Familiarize yourself with JP terminology and localizations, all the filenames are named that way

Like the SNES stuff will be under sfc

[torpid silo]

Hey I'm sorry to hijack the thread, but what file path are the badges stored on the SD? (Ones from badge arcade itself, not imported)?

[elfin radish]

SD Card:\Nintendo 3DS[ID0][ID1]\extdata\00000000\000014d1

just look up the 14d1 folder in your sd card to save yourself the time

[torpid silo]

Thank you! Gonna copy em and put them on my cloud drive

Alright, thank you very much

[plush merlin]

this is a tragedy for everyone affected but i’m really happy to see how we’re helping each other and new victims along the way

we’ve made a nice little micro community of badge warriors

[elfin radish]

i love you reckless destruction of months of grinding free plays or spending actual money

[green python]

yoo whered you find this pic? ive been trying to sift through the vaguely named badge files manually- is there an image database somewhere?

[pseudo marsh]

https://www.spriters-resource.com/3ds/nintendobadgearcade/sheet/117812/

[green python]

omggg didnt even think to look there. thank you!!

[pseudo marsh]

it dosnt have the proper names for the files unfortnatley

[green python]

beats manually checking at least : D

[plush merlin]

this lack of info is inspiring me to try and make a full spreadsheet with the icon file names, collections, and sprites of each badge for ease of searching

[pseudo marsh]

That would be so helpful

[plush merlin]

i’m definitely not experienced in that realm at all but it would be like a treasure hunt for me and would help a lot of people on here when they struggle with badge losses

[elfin radish]

heroic arc (making a spreadsheet of png badges and their file names) caused by tragedy (losing a collection of said pngs)

[plush merlin]

it shouldn’t be that hard right? there’s already a full list of each badge sprite from the website E-bunny sent, and there’s a full list of the files to inject onto your system, so all i have to do is match the file name with the sprite in one place

it would just take a while since there are so many badges

[elfin radish]

Yeah its honestly just crazy tedious with how theres thousands

Theres uhh

10374 total according to a post i found

[green python]

if anyones able-- let me know if you find the happy home badges .prb files? dunno if its an error on my end, but the (us, at least) allbadge tool didn't have them.

[elfin radish]

Ill try finding them, but i havent explored this before

[pseudo marsh]

I’m having the same issue

[rigid depot]

we seriously need a #announcements post asap

[dusk minnow]

Yea this needs to be something everyone knows about

[green python]

What, the wiped badges? Or missing hhd files lmao

[plush merlin]

another victim…https://discord.com/channels/408718485913468928/1227309869489586296

[dapper bluff]

Hey, if you backup your badges this way does it also save the ones outside of your box or is that stuck with Nintendo servers forever?

[green python]

😭we really need an announcement post, this is just gonna keep happening..

[quick lantern]

So uh, does the badge transfer from NNID to PNID works well ?

[elfin radish]

It only works with the official nintendo badges

[elfin radish]

It works but has like. MANY buts tied to it

[quick lantern]

Ouch.. I think i'll wait til there's a final solution before using Pretendo, just to be safe

[dapper bluff]

No, I mean what I said. I'm only using Badge Arcade badges (don't want to hack any custom ones). Would the badges in my collection that I haven't loaded into my box also save or no?

[elfin radish]

Oh! Nope

Those are just gone

They went down with the nintendo servers

[quick lantern]

But just to be sure, badges only disappear when loading into a PNID account, right ?

[elfin radish]

Correct

If you havent tampered with them, then they should vanish when you swap to PNID. That's entirely normal

And they will just reside in your NNID

[dapper bluff]

Rip, at least I have two videos of my entire collection. Too bad I don't know how many of each badge I have.

[quick lantern]

Huh, they didn't reappear when i switched back to my NNID

[elfin radish]

There was a method to back them up (james-money's video covered it well) but it had to be done before shutdown bc badges were all server-side

You were just allowed to keep 1000 on your sd card for convenient decorating

[elfin radish]

[dapper bluff]

Awww, I wish I would've heard about it.

[elfin radish]

ITS SAD THAT THE VIDEO WASNT MORE WIDESPREAD... lots of folks wanna port their collections as cleanly as possible, including me. Im a filthy archivist

[quick lantern]

Same, i have pretty lil folders

[elfin radish]

I LOVE PRETTY LITTLE FOLDERS!!!! RAAAAAA

Did you try placing a badge

[quick lantern]

It said i didn't own any

I mean it's all good now, had a backup of em all, thankfully-

[dapper bluff]

I love badge arcade so much that I'll prolly take the time to fully import all my badges neatly... at some point lol.

[plush merlin]

i feel like we should make a flowchart for each question in the series of issues for this… for example:

“do they reappear when switching back to NNID? -> if no -> did you open the badge arcade application in PNID? -> if yes -> do you have a backup of your SD card/badge extdata? -> if yes -> congratulations! you can save your badges. here’s how:”

[elfin radish]

lucky for you im a professional graphic designer

time to pull out the comic sans

[plush merlin]

your education has led to this moment. it’s your time to shine

[elfin radish]

my education has come weirdly handy for like. Shitposts more than anything. Im completely unemployed

alr well time to make a diagram

[green python]

🙏possibly the most helpful king of our time

[elfin radish]

honestly no thats probably chiptune

and giraffe for even instigating the research

[plush merlin]

aww i’m honored to be considered patient 0

[shrewd fog]

Wait the street pass stuff is gone now oh no