#R7C2 last checkpoint door not opening

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idle crater
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Hey!

The last checkpoint door simply did not open after we opened it, and we were unable to progress at all. We killed ourselves, and then I did not have a prompt to continue from checkpoint. (not even to the previous ones)

Is there any way to prevent this happening again? This is literally the third time that a different game breaking bug prevents us from completing from this particular level.
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1468286501044355296
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1458218399925669969
It's really brutal to spend 3+ hours to just get all of our progress undone by a bug week after week.

Modlist attached.

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velvet seal
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Sounds like Desync, i think if you go away from checkpoint door and then back to it it retries opening or smth like that right @sudden vector?

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Also i dont know if the mod that removes checkpoints removes the checks for checkpoints but might be worth looking into that

agile lynx
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this trilogy is heartbreaker

idle crater
# agile lynx this trilogy is heartbreaker

And two out of three times it was right at the end as well. 😭
It's genuinely difficult to keep spirits up for the next run, at least I know this level by heart at this point.

velvet seal
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@strange barn you dont know about if the mod actually deletes the checks/info being sent?

idle crater
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I don't know if we want to lose the checkpoints permanently, is there no way to keep that functionality, without risking the level completely bricking? If it happens again we'll try moving everyone away and back.

velvet seal
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checkpoints are not reliable at all

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so many bugs attached to them

idle crater
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I know 323 hours is not that much in the context of this server, but we did not have problems with them before R7C2.

strange barn
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classic checkpoint jank

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they historically have insurmountable amounts of stuff like this and I'm surprised you made it this far before encountering issues

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everything in your screenshot is every mod used correct?

idle crater
strange barn
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None of those mods even touch checkpoints

idle crater
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Every client also has all of those installed

strange barn
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you got scammed by that checkpoint

idle crater
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I'm just glad that it's R7C2 that has become our personal purgatory, if it was a harder level, it might have genuinely ended the static. :D

strange barn
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Here's what I am going to do after work today

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I am going to install every single one of those mods and purposefully die after the first checkpoint

idle crater
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All the other checkpoint doors worked before, we even reloaded the second one twice

strange barn
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the more you reload a checkpoint in a level in the same drop the more stuff breaks

idle crater
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and of course this did not happen the last time we got through the last checkpoint door, but got crashed by the audio glitch

strange barn
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you should be fine for like 1-2 resets and then after that you are playing a huge gamble

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the amount of desynced data gets too much

idle crater
strange barn
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especially on R7C2 where it doesn't increment properly with an objective counter on the cells inserted

idle crater
strange barn
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the sheer amount of volatile effects checkpoints have that I have personally documented is absolutely huge

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so what happened to your team does not surprise me unfortunately

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this sounds like checkpoint desync and the game forgot

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which is very similar to another checkpoint jank item regarding leaving midgame and then coming back

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that person will proceed to have 0 ammo and no weapons, permanently

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the game forgets what that person had and fails to initialize their loadout again

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if you ever feel like testing that, have 3/4 people down, and the 4th person is a client still up and they leave, forcing the host to restart from checkpoint, and then they rejoin

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happened to me on R6BX secondary

idle crater
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;_;

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Thanks for all the info

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We'll try again next week

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and try to keep the wipes to a minimum

idle crater
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Update: We have replayed the level today

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and the exact same thing has happened again

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secondary checkpoint door is forever closed

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does not matter how many times we run away and back

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anything we can do?

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or we just can't complete the level ever

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We are standing in front of the door right now

velvet seal
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Which zone does it lead to? Lemme check smth rq

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Stay in the level

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Dunno if there’s error

idle crater
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I can stream if you want

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door is stuck like this

vapid rune
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Did you die once before or is this the first run you've done

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Since booting up the game

idle crater
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we have used a checkpoint exactly once

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this one to be precise

velvet seal
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Did you ever teleport after doing main objective?

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Actually I might hop into the level with cconsole🤔

idle crater
velvet seal
idle crater
vapid rune
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Oh it's the cell bug

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Isn't it?

velvet seal
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Is it? They got the tp

vapid rune
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wait a minute actually no
I'm dumb

velvet seal
vapid rune
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Should I attempt to summon the modded peps to look at your logs
(You are running mods right)

idle crater
idle crater
vapid rune
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@spice token Any idea what would cause a checkpoint door to not open for whatever reason?
And any idea what we would need to troubleshoot something like this?

strange barn
spice token
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desync

strange barn
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that plugin was made specifically for this kind of checkpoint desync

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some squads are just prone to having the checkpoints do this based on their internet

vapid rune
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Can you guys join general and just guide the dude through this or do I just tell him to download pointblank and that's it

strange barn
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this is a niche plugin but it fulfills this precise purpose

spice token
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well doesn’t it just outright remove checkpoints

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they might as well just not use them then

strange barn
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no you still checkpoint scan

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so the timing for everything isn't super cheaty

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but the actual checkpointing save data process is skipped

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so it's just a normal security door with an extra bioscan at that point

spice token
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my point still stands

strange barn
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yes

agile lynx
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they need a carry now at this point

strange barn
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PointBlank solves the issue of checkpoint desync even if you DON'T restart from checkpoints

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just trying to open the door and nothing happens

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because the clients or what have you don't wanna cooperate

velvet seal
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@strange barn he got kicked whilst trying to load into my game when we ran with cconsole

strange barn
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anything from log?

velvet seal
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i cant read logs🥸

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sent it to you lmao

strange barn
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From the logs it just looks like dim1 failed to generate properly and you got stuck in the infinite drop

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anyways, yeah PointBlank was designed for groups like this even if it means turning off the ability to restart from checkpoint

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a checkpoint doesnt really mean much if it just softlocks you and this just happens on some people's internet connections

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the timings for scans and entering are kept as vanilla to keep the experience as authentic as possible since some checkpoint bioscans are prone to happening during combat (R6C3 calls to mind)

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It's really unfortunate that this happened after just 1 checkpoint reset. That's a very typical thing where it should still work as mentioned during previous discussion, so having it not work that fast is a big uh oh