Killing giant made a funny sound and alerted every enemy

[winged umbra]

Hello fellas, we were doing R5C1.
At one point, we wanted to clear a giant the stealthy way, but something weird happened.
When the player named Ambulance hitted him with his spear, it made a gigantic sound of a lock breaking and alerted every enemy in the room and some more after.
Even though the enemies ahead were in an alerted state, they didn't moved until we opened the doors.

Here's the clip of the funny bug happening (French peeps warning) : https://clips.twitch.tv/CoyFastOwlPeanutButterJellyTime-KaicX-FSSIVLC3Og
And you can see the enemies triggered further in the level in the replay here around 1:34:25 and after : https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2377889871

Nothing game-breaking, pretty weird and I don't know if anything similar has happened.

Cheers, and HF !

[lethal tiger]

That's more of a sound of him hitting also the metal plate on the column IMHO

Why the whole map woke up is another matter entirely.

I'm not saying it is, but I've never seen anything like this and therefore I'd chalk it up to some tomfoolery or a mod having fucked up. I'm sure there's more knowledgeable people in here able to shed a light, but personally I've never seen a glitch like this.

I mean at 1:29:20 the guy oneshots an hybrid

I'm pretty sure spear cant do that from occiput unless syringe? Let me check if you guys had boosters.

[tacit shuttle]

spear so loud it woke up the entire map

jokes aside that looks like a mod yea

[tacit shuttle]

also ya thats defo not boosters look at the hybrid corpse

it wasnt a head hit and still died

cant do that vanilla

[lethal tiger]

You're right

[tacit shuttle]

i think its wemod but might be smthin else, ive seen people run someshit that allows them to oneshot everything even with a tap of their melee and this looks similar

[lethal tiger]

@winged umbra well you've your answer

I could watch the whole vid to check if he did anything else weird but hybrid kill is way too suspicious

[tacit shuttle]

he prolly hit the wall and giant and the same time and that caused whatever shit he was using to break

thats my guess at least anyways shrug hard to say for sure tho

[lethal tiger]

I mean it ain't the first time someone comes and says their friend had a "weird bug" with endless cfoam grenades or other impossible shit

And it's always cheats

[tacit shuttle]

pretty much

[austere heart]

It sounds like it was multiple hits too

Not just one

[vagrant bramble]

Still, it's a little weird
Were you playing with randoms or were you playing with a static?

If it was a static then it might be worth digging in a little more

But if it's a stranger, especially someone you found on matchmaking, then it shouldn't be too surprising if it's just cheats

that, or mods faqed up something regards to the sound system

Probably one of those semi-cheating solo mods or smth

[winged umbra]

Not strangers, a team I'm used to run with. I strongly think no one is using mods, but I'm going to investigate.
Booster I don't know. But yeah I didn't noticed the Hybrid kill when I was playing, but the fact he did OS him may be in fact because two hits (or more) were registered instead of one. It would explain why the sound seemed to be multiple hits on the giant (padlock face).

[lethal tiger]

I dont think you can hit the SAME target twice, doublehits dont work like that

When you see doublekills with hammer or whatnot it's just hitting two targets at once and not one registered as being hit twice.

[vagrant bramble]

@eternal pendant have you ever seen anything like this normally?

[eternal pendant]

no
the sound was like hitting a dozen smashlocks at once (a sound i can easily tell apart here)

this legit just seems like some weird mod thing but I currently cant tell (or watch too much as im playing smth with a friend)

[vagrant bramble]

If you don't mind, can you check later?
I'll probably poke around modded a little and see if anything comes up

[eternal pendant]

eh maybe
Ive definetly never seen something like this

but if they do have other signs of using mods (i didnt check the hybrid kill but maybe @kind raptor or so on could, sry for ping btw tru lol) then its likely smth like that too

@lethal tiger @vagrant bramble i checked the hybrid kill

they arent even behind the hybrid rly
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Back_Multiplier check the provided pic in this wiki thread

Even if thats a headshot, they wouldnt kill unless they have like maximum melee dmg boosters (and that is if thats a headshot and partial back dmg is still applied)

^that isnt the provided pic btw but also good to tell

@winged umbra I dont rly have the time to check rn, but yea. That friend miiight be running some things

not the first time people have friends with "mods" on their team that never tell they do. (weve had some crazy cheaters)

[tacit shuttle]

its not a headshot cause then only the head wouldve been blown off

unless there is some weird omega niche thing where that doesnt happen

[austere heart]

Thats the reason why im bringing it up, Sleepo

You can't do it

it sounds like it was multiple "bugged" hits in a really rapid succesionn

[eternal pendant]

it just sounds like they hit the whole map at once

[winged umbra]

Host answered that he isn't using mods, can't be sure tho (maybe he's lying idk). Haven't got an answer from Ambulance yet.
One thing I noticed was Ambulance saying he OS-ed one hybrid earlier in the open area where mobs respawn after each door unlocked, but I didn't found it in the full video. So defo something happening but not sure what.

Tbh it's such a niche thing it's more than OK to let it be a ''one funny bug'' happening and close the thread. It still provides some tracability in case someone encounters it again.

[kind raptor]

Someone either hard lagged out and had their melee hit half the map, or someone is hard cheating and had their melee hit half the map

[eternal pendant]

iirc the clip at 1:29:20 shows the hybrid one shot. Which just makes no sense

[winged umbra]

I agree, this shouldn't have happened

[kind raptor]

I checked it, there's a 3rd person there, are they guaranteed not to have hit?

[eternal pendant]

I cant speak for the person on the right thats hidden (tho they legit seem out of range for hammer)
but the host didnt hit (you can see them swing way later and swing into air)

[winged umbra]

We only hear one distinct hit (and I remember not hitting, only the spear did)

[kind raptor]

The other guy is behind you, animation and audio could easily have been culled

[eternal pendant]

that still would need boosters and head hits/back dmg combo no?

[kind raptor]

They're both still getting partial back multi

[eternal pendant]

spear... maaaybe (they are on left side, isnt right side the one where its learning?) and the other guy is like basically in front of its head aswell

but as was said, seems like killing blow wasnt head. So even if you go off of hammer body and spear head that doesnt add up without boosters on perfect back dmg

[winged umbra]

To be more precise, I wasn't the one streaming, and from what I can hear, everyone is surprised by the OS. I can hear myself saying something like "yeah OS by hitting a crit " but I didn't know Hybrid had that much HP

[eternal pendant]

oh wait

@winged umbra did you hit the hybrid at 1:29:20?

[winged umbra]

No xd ( to add without spamming, me saying ''os in le head" truly highlight the fact that no one except spear hit)

[eternal pendant]

ok yea then he solo hit @kind raptor lol
at that angle

[winged umbra]

I just listened again, I can hear the spear hit, then host missing and hitting the wall, then 2 misses in the air shortly after

[eternal pendant]

as tru said that could theoretically be due to audio culling and spear hitting air aswell after the hit again

But if you (the one whos audio wouldve been culled) didnt hit then it was only the spear hit

And since its unlikely to be a headshot according to what @tacit shuttle said, it not being full back dmg if at all and spear low dmg vs hybrids high hp…

Just doesnt seem legit at all

[lethal tiger]

Darkeva and tru know the numbers way better than me but I think hybrid has 150 hp, spear does around 26 (*4 because occiput) and its 104, hammer does 80 if occi 40 if back, so even hammer back+ spear occi would be 144?

And those are assuming perfect back I guess

and the head didnt blow off so even if a back would be the killing blow

It's just so scuffed I doubt its anything other than cheat

[eternal pendant]

Since gwandalf said they didnt hit we know it was only spear hit

[lethal tiger]

In any event, since (no offense) I ain't going to watch all 100mins to check for other proof, and you want to get this guy straight, only way I can think is having host use both replaymod and damageindicator

if damage suddenly explodes on damageindicator you have your proof 😄

[winged umbra]

If it's just a mod/cheat, IDK why he didn't used it earlier in the run, why wait 1 hour in, use it on 2 or 3 big dudes and never again. And that's from a player I know pretty well and played with for quite some time now. We had some tighter moments and it never happened

[winged umbra]

Imma look into that. Can you DM me to explain a little bit further ?

[lethal tiger]

I mean ultimately it's up to you guys etc etc, nothing wrong with cheating if EVERYONE on the lobby is okay with it because it's a PvE game.

Plus you aren't making speedruns or whatnot so the only objective is to have fun.

[winged umbra]

Yeah, I don't really care if he cheated, and so does the others, it's more to know the truth :D

[lethal tiger]

I can if you want but to be honest just go to #hc-modded and join GTFO mod Discord

There's guides and stuff

[winged umbra]

Okay, thanks :)

[lethal tiger]

#hc-modded message

[winged umbra]

Update : No mods/cheats were used

[vagrant bramble]

Huh well then
I guess we should treat this as a bug and look into it

Though the logs for that level are probably long lost

[winged umbra]

Can you explain further ?

[vagrant bramble]

#bug-reporting Logs

They're what we usually use to look for stuff that doesn't make sense

Don't think they're still around the system if it's a good while ago

You can still fish for them

[lethal tiger]

I dont think anything useful would be in there anyway

Those tell you more stuff about connection/disconnecting players

rather than """glitches""" like that

[winged umbra]

I have the MASTER and CLIENT from host and my own CLIENT, what you guys want ?

[eternal pendant]

Bruh what?
You can easily find them again

[eternal pendant]

I know you are saying that 💀

but its always questionable, considering cheaters often… dont wanna come clean

[winged umbra]

~~Hmmm I might have an answer
He's using a custom OS and can have funky stuff happening in games ~~
Yesterday we tried R5C3 and there was one specific spot where he was phasing through the floor (somewhere near a door with a pile of bodies).
Idk if it's that or just some excuse, but he seems genuinely honest with the no-cheat/mod answer.
🤷

[vagrant bramble]

Wait is he running on windows

[eternal pendant]

wdym phase through the floor?

like fall through or walk through?

[vagrant bramble]

Doesn't GTFO only support windows

[austere heart]

Yesnt
I know tools for Linux and Mac that lets you play games in there (games that are Windows only)

so maybe he is using one of them? Idk

[winged umbra]

I don't have the details but from what I understood he's using a modified/custom version of Windows.
And literally falling through the floor infinitely until he moved. But only on one specific spot.
I'm gathering more info and tell abt it when I have them

[pulsar mason]

free thyself lookin ahh

[winged umbra]

Just basic Windows.

[lyric elbow]

ik this is a bit irrelevent but I've actually encountered this myself while playing vanilla once. was on r5a2 extreme where there was just a random spot with no collision for some reason. Even on replay viewer (I do run some QoL mods, not freethyself at that point) it shows me just falling into the floor.

[vagrant bramble]

has he checked if his game integrity is still there?