#Playing with Mobile data / Stuck in cage drop

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candid cliff
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Hello
Me and my friend are trying to make a lobby which is 20/80 that it works or not, if I host the game for me we drop in, for him he is stuck in lobby, unfortunately he CANNOT due to his temporary circumstances play with anything else than mobile data.

I have tried making his network recognise the ethernet cable (USB from phone to PC) as not public, and added in his firewall GTFO to be usable even on public networks.

When he hosts, on the first level for example we could play before together, then another day we tried R2 together to no success, he would host we drop but ultimately get stuck inside the cage drop and be taken back up, I have video of this and a screeshot aswell.

What could cause this aside from the obvious of mobile data? Any fixes for this? Again, we could sometimes play together sometimes not, it would be that 2 of us could play once and our 3rd friend would not be able to join and such, its total random, and I haven't encountered something like this in any other game.

The only instance what didn't work before finding the public to private network issue, is that in Tiny Tina's Dungeon game he wouldn't be able to join our lobby through servers nor through hamachi (local).

So we know mobile data IS an issue, but what could fix it so we are able to play outside of it being RNG?

Any tips and help is appreciated as my friend unfortunately cannot use his room for a while.

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little badger
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@candid cliff We'll need them to see what problems you're having

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@brave phoenix This is probs just another ISP problem or the 'Waiting for Master' thing, but I'd like to see what you think

candid cliff
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Supposedly everythings in there

brave phoenix
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most cases 4g/5g mobile should work fine, i would do the clear steam download cache thing first and foremost

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if any vpn is present, disconnect

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shouldnt make a difference if private or public, private is better.. once u allow gtfo to network, it will network, upnp and everything

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otoh, the one without mobile connection, reboot router just in case

candid cliff
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And he said no VPN is present at all, but it did make a difference with private or public network as when it changed to private it worked.. once then again, it was stuck on cage drop sequence, and when we were the ones hosting once, he was just stuck in the cage

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We also have tried just killing him out of the cage to see if he would drop dead and revive him but, it was not successful

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the abyss would just take him

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brave phoenix
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usb tether from phone to pc from my android phone needs to go into connections -> sharing -> share-usb (visible after usb connected) .. turns into an "ethernet" adapter on windows

little badger
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also this just looks like really bad desync

brave phoenix
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also if there's a bad wifi in the house and phone is connected to it, sharing connection means sharing that bad wifi, and, introducing a double-nat environment

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if wifi router nats, phone connects to it and then does nat again to pc == guaranteed udp fuckery

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so wifi off, usb-tether (full-fledged 4g/5g), shared by phone to pc with a single nat layer

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also make sure that all check that u have no asus gamefirst or similar quality of service stuff installed, and if u do, make sure steam is a top priority game

candid cliff
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all other games work just fine except that one exception

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I just want to find out how to solve it so we could play before he could move back to his room is all

brave phoenix
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my brother used to have shitty wifi so he tethered via phone and we played 1000s of hours of farcry3 and gtfo without a single problem

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so i wanna help u get to the root too

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something to test: shut down steam entirely.. tether phone usb so browser works, start steam, start gtfo, attempt play .. that steam startup only after tether is connected could help, in theory

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if there's wifi, an asus thumb usb dongle costs like 10-20e (around here at least)

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16,99€ asus usb-n10 nano b1

candid cliff
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Unfortunately due to circumstances the only available internet is Mobile data, so he has restarted it, plugged it in, first try was unsuccessful as we were stuck in an endless dropping sequence, I tried joining him after he is in and now I just basically cant do stuff

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I cant pickup, hack stuff

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Now I have re-joined the lobby and now FOR NOW (fingers crossed) I can pick up things

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The issue is not fixed but as for now in the current 2 player instance, not 3 its worked around

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I still dont know why it works or does not work randomly

little badger
candid cliff
# little badger Desync is a fickle thing...

Well server operates in a rather weird way but I can tell its port reliant or something towards ISP's, is why mobile data is a bit.. weird, will check today aswell around midnight if its a correct workaround, and later this week aswell if it works for 3 people or just for two

little badger
candid cliff
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Well, for now I just begin to spawn dead

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brave phoenix
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i'm beginning to feel that someone has a windows firewall or some antivirus-firewall-thing that is blocking packets

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either ethernet, wifi or 4g, problem seems to be within windows somewhere

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maybe try move connection to private and make damn sure steam and gtfo have "allow connections"