#Waiting for Master

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misty quest
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Anyone as of roughly 2 weeks ago having this issue when you have ppl attempting to join your game on steam?

junior topaz
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Try deleting all the files inside the folder %userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective

grim flower
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I am having this issue

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couldnt join a friend who was hosting, he couldnt join me, we could both join a 3rd person, but we did not show up for each other in the game, he was invisible

cinder garden
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im having the exact same problem

cinder garden
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If someone finds a solution please lmk

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my friend and i both deleted and re-downloaded the game and the issue is still there

reef bridge
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having this issue tonight as well

robust gazelle
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I have been having this issue as well

oblique flower
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Same for me

severe osprey
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if you're on a 5ghz connection, try using 2.4ghz...for whatever reason that may have fixed it for us

carmine heron
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Ok um
This is going to sound awful

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But this is just normal desync
And I think all of you might have different types of it

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So i need all of you to send individual logs

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So @misty quest
@grim flower
@cinder garden @reef bridge @robust gazelle @oblique flower
Can you send your logs over so we can see what's going on?

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(Most likely this stuff just got broken after the steam issue two weeks ago)

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(But better be safe than sorry with these things)

carmine heron
misty quest
carmine heron
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If you just had that problem just now

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Steam had an outage for about 45 mins

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So try again if you can

misty quest
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it was earlier 4ish hrs ago and on tuesday, either got bad timing or we got something. we usually get togetheatst 2000 est tues/thurs and sometimes sat so ill get you those logs asap

carmine heron
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huh ok

tawdry temple
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oh yeah steam had an outage

misty quest
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appreciate the help

tawdry temple
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like 5 hours ago

misty quest
reef bridge
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@hearty valve @oblique flower are the ones in my squad who were having the issue when we tried to play. Definitely was not normal desync, we have never seen this issue before. Boys, see above for request for logs

grim flower
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Can have mine sent over later today

severe osprey
carmine heron
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Not sure if switching the wifi frequency would be able to do that much unless he's pretty far from the router

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If you're close to the wifi changing the frequency seems to only affect performance negatively
Idk tho, could also be isp stuff that I'm not familiar with

eternal fossil
boreal torrent
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something similar has started happening with me and one of my other group members since Tuesday/Wednesday. Looking at the logs this seems to be the relevant piece: 02:52:08.167 - ERROR : STEAM > k_EP2PSessionErrorTimeout 4 The connection timed out because the target user didn't respond, perhaps they aren't calling AcceptP2PSessionWithUser. Corporate firewalls can also block this(NAT traversal is not firewall traversal), make sure that UDP ports 3478, 4379, and 4380 are open in an outbound direction.
Both of us added the UDP ports to our outbound firewall to no avail :/

carmine heron
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@frozen citrus Ok this seems weird

carmine heron
frozen citrus
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restart router to fix upnp first and foremost, other than that #known-issues stuff ig.. could also be isp related, do check hotspot / usb tether connection too

carmine heron
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Both have same issues

boreal torrent
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this is the first time we've seen the issue, additional info: both me and the other person are playing from massachusetts and the other two people who we can connect to just fine are in new york. I'm on a wired connection and the other person is on wifi

carmine heron
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@last crest Any ideas?
It's been a while since I've seen so many people jump in on this
And I'm not really sure if it was an outage anymore

hearty valve
# carmine heron So <@186314892368805888> <@373695035293564940> <@695058854588841984> <@2456820...

@carmine heron
Was trying to start a game with @oblique flower,@reef bridge, and @steep fern when we had issues.

Initially we could start a game together and saw odd things in lobby, like @oblique flower using machine gun as his primary, secondary, tool, and melee. Then in game i either couldn't see him at all or he would stand there (image below). We could bioscan though.

I could see the latter two players in lobby+game+interact with them in game. We could all join their lobbies. When I or @oblique flower hosted, we couldn't join each other's lobbies.

Game logs and fun screenshots attached. Blondie looks very scared in some of them.

📎 GTFO_logs_9_6_ronaldmcdonald.zip image.png image.png image.png
reef bridge
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blondie standing in the corner while we bioscanned is nightmare fuel

tawdry temple
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Bro is having an existencial crisis over there

carmine heron
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Same problem

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Follow what hirnukuono said and try to see if those work

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Same for the rest of you I suppose, his solutions usually resolve the issues

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And I know for a fact that rebooting your router every once in a while is good practise... unless you're the type to turn off the router at night when you don't need to use it

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(my god there's a lot of you, I'm not used to seeing this many people on the sidebar)

misty quest
frozen citrus
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if isp is under ddos and they have under attack stuff on their routers, udp might be impaired.. no udp, no game.. but usually its a router problem, upnp forwards traffic to the wrong place or not at all

misty quest
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My router isn't ISP related, self configured

frozen citrus
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if u guys are close to each other but different isps and a bulldozer took out the fiber between them, u could be affected with p2p.. million scenarios

vernal minnow
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I have this problem but only with one guy when i join somebody else it works just fine

frozen citrus
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yeh, a plain windows reboot can sometimes fix too

carmine heron
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A steam reboot could as well
I've known that to be true

frozen citrus
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update makes network act wrong or sth

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that one dude should check network stuff, sometimes ppl install modem and router and their both in nat mode

misty quest
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That's a fair assessment. I was hoping to find more of a trigger cause it's across 4 different people (In my case anyway).
FTTH on diff company, Coax on same company but some wholesale

frozen citrus
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udp shall not pass with double nat

misty quest
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It's extremely strange since this started only happening 3-4 weeks or so

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We've been playing for almost 1.5 years and never had an issue

Change wise, nothing but win updates.

frozen citrus
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could be isp did some funni chamge to consumer connection profile

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i feel u

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4g 5g hotspot/tether, works then? definitely isp

misty quest
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Hmmm so from what I gather, waiting for master is just P2P issues

frozen citrus
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udp reachability ye

misty quest
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GTFO is P2P hosting?

frozen citrus
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sometimes waiting for master but press alt and speak, voice works just fine

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it uses steam relays but essentially yes

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its a mesh network actually

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host on the moon and 2 clients in the same room, the 2 clients will communicate just fine like on lan

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but the host then lags and makes for double bonks and double lockbreaks and weird enemy wakeups etc

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me and bruh in .fi and when someone from .us hosts, we can duo 100% with bruh but everything to .us host has .6 seconds delay

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bonkbonk

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so i vc bruh 3 2 1 charge etc, we have 0 latency between us eventho we are both clients to .us

boreal torrent
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just for more info, what's everyone's ISP who is experiencing this issue? I'm Verizon and my bud that i can't join is Comcast

frozen citrus
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do the hotspot test first and foremost, that is usually conclusive

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hehe, one of the ancient veterans hosted a game on an airplane wifi 😄 .. the latency was "fun" but it kinda worked 🙂

misty quest
frozen citrus
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np

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hope u guys figure it out... someone once upon a time saved a secondary ip on his internet card, gtfo stopped working... it can be elusive

misty quest
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Yeah I get it, if it's a networking thing that I can see, I should be able to fix it. If it's an ISP issue... yikes

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Thanks again for your time

sullen plaza
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So I was also having this issue and dug a little bit. Swapping steam download region fixed it. I went from Philadelphia to New York

zinc vigil
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i am currently having this issue and switching the steam download region unfortunately did nothing

gloomy sequoia
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did we ever find a fix for this "waiting for master" issue when trying to join friends?

grim flower
gloomy sequoia
versed crypt
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Hi. I'm new to this discord server, but I'm still having this issue and I've tried all that was suggested. Any other suggestions?

tawdry temple
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Steam has been having troubles lately

boreal torrent
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i tried restarting my router and managed to get my friend into a lobby. Hopefully that's the end of the issues

cinder garden
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I just tried to play again and it didn't work

carmine heron
carmine heron
carmine heron
primal portal
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currently having this same problem

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one minute me and my friends can join each other just fine and do a mission or two, but the moment we come back to try and do it again it outright refuses to let us connect to each other again

carmine heron
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Might be that mem leak thing

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If that's the thing that's causing everything to go south, rebooting the game should solve the issues

primal portal
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just trying to play the first 3 missions...

carmine heron
primal portal
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ok

fringe lava
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I also had the same issues tonight with a group of 3 others. Played one mission (first mission), only 3 of us could see each other. Tried to fix it by verifying files/restarting game/steam. Then various combinations of all 4 of us not being able to see each other or connect.

primal portal
carmine heron
fringe lava
# carmine heron try restart router?

Thats one thing we didnt do, as it got pretty late. I will recommend we all try that first thing tomorrow assuming they all get on. Did try the region switch, clear steam download cache, verify files, and multiple ways of joining (steam inv, lobby code, in game invite)

carmine heron
# primal portal I think this should be it

The only thing I saw that described you not being able to join each other was a bad packet message
Which usually just means huge desync
No idea why
I guess try restarting the game and see if it helps?

primal portal
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we managed to get it to work after awhile, but it seems really inconsistent on when it does and doesn't work

carmine heron
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Oh yeah um @wary island
This is what I wanted to ask you about
Are there any game related bugs that could cause you to not be able to join a lobby?

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Most of this stuff is just steam issues that have to do with routers and such

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Still would be good to ask

wary island
versed crypt
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nvm i found them

wary island
versed crypt
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Here they are. I tried hosting, had Sugarless hosting, and then had Noir hosting (who is able to have both of us however, me and Sugarless cannot see each other in game plus pre game lobby looks like this for me

📎 GTFO.2024.09.07.16.05.52_Passione_-_CLIENT.txt Screenshot_2024-09-07_121227.png
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@carmine heron sorry forgot to hit reply

carmine heron
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If everything fails then maybe it's an isp issue
Dunno for sure

upbeat wagon
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my group is having same issue

versed crypt
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It seems that I have fixed my issue. I went into my router/modem and manually created open ports for port numbers that 3478, 4379, and 4380. Sugarless was still not able to connect directly to me, but that's because he hadn't opened his ports. Connecting to Noir we were able to see each other in game and pre game lobby.

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My problem was most likely a NAT type issue, but it's weird since this only started a few days ago.

upbeat wagon
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we cleared steam download cache

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seems to have worked as the two players who couldn't see eachother can see eachother in lobby now

hearty valve
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Mine seems to have resolved itself or possibly a router reset fixed it. Totally unclear of what went wrong and/or why.

misty quest
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mines still broken after uni pnp off

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it has to be a rogers internet thing

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this is so fkin stupid

misty quest
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NGL real fuckin dumb, something has changed and I'm not sure if anyone from the dev team is looking at it since they abandoned the game already for the new one

tawdry temple
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not the game

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the game doesnt have its own servers at all

latent island
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Also having this issue with my 3 friends tonight and for the past couple nights

boreal torrent
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update, the issue reappeared for me, i restarted my router and it fixed it again 😐

carmine heron
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I moved most of the info I got from this thread to a new thread so that people would have an easier time reading through
Do check it out and tell me if the stuff is correct

misty quest
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it looks like steam udp isnt working across multiple games. anything P2P is failing, elden ring, project zomboid, table top etc

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why this is happening with only some individuals, no clue

misty quest
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ill be testing udp ports tuesday or something and report back once i find anything

cerulean verge
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Hello, having the same issues. Here are my error files.

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Would appreciate any help.

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For reference we trouble shot everything above.

tawdry temple
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For the past 3 days or so

carmine heron
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It's giving no useful information it's chop off right at the gui line

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#bug-reporting tells you where to find the logs, just paste the most recent one in

junior olive
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also having this issue

austere hound
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same here

hearty valve
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my issue recurred

reef bridge
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yeah this was resolved for us the other night but now it's back

oblique flower
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Same for me

tawdry temple
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guys steam has been having issues lately

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if you try the fixes in this thread and it doesnt work its most likely you are experiencing the steam shenanigans

hearty valve
tawdry temple
carmine heron
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Pablo's right, I've never seen more than three guys having these sorts of issues at once

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Much less the absolute gargantuan amount rn

tawdry temple
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im pretty sure even other games are having issues

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not only GTFO

carmine heron
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@sage coral I've been meaning to ping this for a while now since this whole thing started
Would you be able to contact steam on what's happening in regards to this?
I know not everyone is affected, but it would be nice to have an eta for a fix or a response

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Besides, it's a blanket issue that's been plaguing a lot of other games, and I'd like to know a little more as well

sage coral
carmine heron
sage coral
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I would guess, as GTFO uses Steam services to create lobbies, that any game that uses the same services are having the same issues

carmine heron
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At least pablo said so, and I believe him

latent island
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i was also having lobby issues with Risk of Rain 2 the past week, same issue with GTFO unable to join lobbies/kicked when starting

frozen citrus
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i wonder if u messed around with the steam server location thing, would it do anything..

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the past ~year i've only had problems on tue-wed and sometimes on fri-sat (steam maintenances) .. and the very occasional playfab down thing

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we can even play during and past the maintenances but god forbid u hit f3 to kick hackett out.. he'll stay out if steam did the thing

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funny how the bots are inherently "clients" in the same sense as human players

trail bronze
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having this issue right now

tawdry temple
frozen citrus
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can u test alt voice chat? is it working when u are stuck waiting for master?

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can u try dns 1.1.1.1 just for lulz? maybe its some weird dns issue

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.1 has been 100% for me for years

bronze vapor
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is it just steam being stupid

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it seems to keep cropping up randomly

misty quest
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I opened a few ports on UDP across all 4 pcs and still has issues.
Turned off firewall, same issue.
No idea at this point, beyond my scope. Maybe ISP, maybe steam (probably).

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Strangely enough elden ring was intermittently working on sunday after opening ports.

bronze vapor
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the wizards they have upkeeping steam servers stopped casting their spells

cinder garden
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the issue was fixed for me the past couple of days but it just started doing it again

bronze vapor
kind knot
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This issue is still present today. We just managed to get connected for no reason as I type this, however, so it seems like nonsense. My buddy swears that if you wait on the rundown screen until the text in the bottom right said "Server syncing" and then join it works. So despite there being no server, that's the change we made that worked.

bronze vapor
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i still think its magic

tribal bramble
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I just had this issue with a group of four. We all started up the game for the first time, ran through the tutorial, and then immediately had this problem when we tried to jump into R1 A1. My logs indicated a port forwarding issue, which I've since resolved, but everyone else didn't seem to have that issue.

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We also saw instances of people joining the lobby, taking up a slot, but then being invisible to other players or having an empty load out in the lobby. Weird stuff. We'll be trying again another day.

tardy pivot
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use hamachi

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it solved the issue for me instantly

hearty valve
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What is hamachi, VPN?

misty quest
tribal bramble
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Yeah, I definitely had an error in my logs while hosting related to the ports, but even with the error resolved we still had the other failures joining rooms

misty quest
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I did notice some ports were closed after a windows 10 patch few weeks ago

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Some of the pcs had it some didnt

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Win 10, 22H2, .4780

hearty valve
frozen citrus
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hamachi is a virtual lan vpn ye

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u connect to the shared lan

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gtfo still needs steam and playfab but it might be able to utilize the same private network after the fact

tardy pivot
uncut snow
frozen citrus
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gtfo player data, expeditions completed, cosmetics earned

hybrid jackal
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Having this issue with 2 peoples as well. Nothing to report from devs team?

ivory flare
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When we received this update, all our problem was solved. To have this update we cleared Steam Download cache by going to the settings -> Downloads -> Clear Cache (I don't know if this step really forced that download tho...)

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molten harness
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clearing the steam cache got us this update to download

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and now it's work

hybrid jackal
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Yep works for me as well Thanks dude!

tawdry temple
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so it was indeed a steam problem

bronze vapor
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fuckin BLESS

tawdry temple
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@carmine heron

rapid drum
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I think we have all had the same problem but for me half the team couldnt give me stuff like ammo and i couldnt help the other half

tawdry temple
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@spare stratus

spare stratus
carmine heron
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Ok so I think the redistributables are bugged and clearing cache allowed them to be unbugged, correct?

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Makes sense why changing download region also works for a little while
Welp I'll keep that in mind

supple aspen
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both of us cleared cache for steam but I neither of us noticed it downloading anything

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and it also didn't work

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problem persists

bronze vapor
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this fucking game man

carmine heron
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I mean don't worry too much about it

ivory flare
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For us, it took 2-3 game start before it downloads it. And if you have mod, try launching without them to init the download. But I can guarantee that the Steam Common Redistribuable fix the issue. You can found it on your steam library, maybe try to reinstall it manually?

austere hound
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Still experiencing issues here with my party of 4. We haven't been able to play since Monday.

tawdry temple
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Did You tried the fix above?

carmine heron
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Reset router or clear download cache

viscid grotto
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the way cleear cache work sometime

latent island
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I'm also still experiencing issues connecting to lobbies with friends

viscid grotto
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yeah, it worked for me yesterday,

inland ice
tawdry temple
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Damn

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Poor Game suffering because of steam

viscid grotto
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but now it happenned again

tawdry temple
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Btw this is 100% problem of steam

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Not the game itself

rich dove
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Yeah friends and I where playing last night

native escarp
tawdry temple
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And i linked a steam reports website somewhere above

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A lot of reports

celest sonnet
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where are the steps for fixing the lobby issue?

tawdry temple
peak viper
viscid grotto
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other P2P game also have this issue?

peak viper
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nothing gonna fix this but steam itself

celest sonnet
peak viper
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yep

celest sonnet
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damn

peak viper
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we even went as far as to reinstall the whole game

tawdry temple
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This Game doesnt have servers
It uses playfab and steam

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And playfab is working fine

celest sonnet
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must be because it is friday the 13th

tawdry temple
bronze vapor
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is it p2p?

peak viper
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today was boutta be the night we finish our first rundown

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so we all upset

bronze vapor
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this just clicked in my head, but i was just trying to play some games iwth a buddy

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we dried dont starve together and intoxicated driver, and we couldnt get in the same lobby in etiher

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due to connection falures

formal marlin
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it is but at the same time any time steam maintenance tuesday occurs everyone gets booted out of squad

quaint coral
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guys i dont wanna wait for master anymore

tawdry temple
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Skull issue

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Wait faster

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:D

tawdry temple
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P2P games are suffering

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In general

bronze vapor
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fuckin hell

peak viper
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this is upsetting but hey

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irriswarris

tawdry temple
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It Will get fixed one day

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But it sucks

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It was fixed for like
A day LOL

peak viper
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me and my friens are hoping it gets fiuxed within 30 mins 💀

bronze vapor
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is lethal company not p2p?

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cuz it works perfectly

carmine heron
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Probs something with gtfo jank + steam code

tawdry temple
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Andocas save us

carmine heron
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Gods knows what's going on

tawdry temple
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Please

bronze vapor
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and i dont think its my connection

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everything else works fine

formal marlin
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do we need to raise a dev or something?

wind thicket
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Same issue after playing flawlessly for ~ 6 mo. Same issue with HD2, cleared caches on steam and windows, verified files, numerous restarts of PC, steam, game. No router changes. I am suspecting something is wrong on steam

tawdry temple
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Because this isnt a Game trouble

wind thicket
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like 4 of my friends have this issue

bronze vapor
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i think its just steam

tawdry temple
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Its straight up steam

bronze vapor
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which means we can do nothing but sit with our thumbs up our asses and wait for valve to press the server upkeep button

tawdry temple
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Hey
The Game works fine in My region

bronze vapor
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how long has this been going on for? like a month?

tawdry temple
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Yall have skill issue

bronze vapor
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id have assumed theyd have fixed something by now

bronze vapor
tawdry temple
formal marlin
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try it now... somebody finally dropped successfuolly...

bronze vapor
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i just wanted to play dont starve together

bronze vapor
peak viper
formal marlin
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not sure if can join though

tawdry temple
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After that its report after report after report

peak viper
bronze vapor
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huh

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according to the internal lethal company is p2p and it works perfectly

native escarp
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someone in this chat fix it rn

bronze vapor
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and gtfo has been working fine for me now

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so its just dst and id that hate me now

tawdry temple
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Goob
We know how GTFO is coded

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Hopes and dreams

bronze vapor
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real

tawdry temple
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And duct tape

bronze vapor
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then why is it working and dst isnt >:(

severe pewter
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I found a fix that worked for me

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I changed the steam download region to something else (NA WEST COAST).
After steam restarted it let me download a new steam redistributable package

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After installing and launching GTFO I'm able to join my friends lobby

grand helm
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did anyone find an actual solution to this problem without deleting files and stuff?

carmine heron
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Or just clearing cache

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download cache

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I thought I'd get a break from this by now
Was kinda hoping this would just fizzle out

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Guess not

placid fiber
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Move in with your teammates so you can lan party

carmine heron
granite ember
carmine heron
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Like worse than the lag you'd have playing with someone on the other side of the world

tawdry temple
placid fiber
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If you have over 10ms ping in a lan party then something is set up seriously wrong, idk what to tell you

carmine heron
stiff rune
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So I've had this issue and downloading the steamworks common redist wasnt working despite it updating in steam after clearing cache. It turns out that when I checked the update tab under the properties of it, it wasn't actualy updating despite the download manager saying it did. So I full uninstalled the package through steam library and reinstalled through there and I have no issues anymore. So if you're having issues try un and reinstalling the package

grand helm
carmine heron
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Just google it and there should be instructions

wind thicket
grand helm
carmine heron
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it teaches you every step

gilded fractal
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ik im beating this dead horse but r there anyway to fix this ive tried the other ways nothing me and my friend r losing minds trying to play this game

bronze vapor
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try the shit in this thread

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if that doesnt work, try again later and hope the steam wizards have decided to fix it then

gilded fractal
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i did nothing worked

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i hope thanks btw

bronze vapor
gilded fractal
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will do

spare stratus
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worked after clearing steam cache and installing steam works update

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keep it updated ig lol

gilded fractal
cloud forge
dark coral
hearty valve
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FWIW - i cleared cache days ago and tonight tried to join a pug and couldn't. Closed GTFO, cleared cache again, then could join. It might be a recurring issue.

tulip carbon
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ngl ive tried everything and ive officially given up, looks like an amazingly fun game but after half an hour I think imma just refund, thanks for all the tips guys

bronze vapor
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I think the cache clear is a stopgap fix

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Either that or it fixes the problem and then steam breaks it again

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Ad infinitum

ivory flare
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Sometimes its works sometimes it doesn't... My friend and I, just have to do it again to play... We played one game, we drop for a second one, a critical terminal got stuck, we have restart our game completly and cannot join again. Clearing the cache have not fix it this time... So it's look like both, Steam and the way GTFO handle the network play...

bronze vapor
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This game is phenomenal, it really sucks that steam being an incompetent piece of shit ruined it

bronze vapor
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Although being unable to rejoin is not

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Most likely

carmine heron
bronze vapor
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"the mars curiosity rover gets better ping than I do"

ivory flare
bronze vapor
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Oh this game has its fair share of bugs

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You look at a terminal wrong and the lobby bricks itself

ivory flare
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yeah, after 1XXX hours into it, I've seen a lot 😄

bronze vapor
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Me getting snatched bugged for the 382718293636th time cuz I dropped off a ledge at the wrong second

tawdry temple
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Get good

bronze vapor
#

So true

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A skill issue honestly

ivory flare
#

It's always a skill issue, even this waiting for master thing

bronze vapor
#

If I had a better gaming chair I could join the lobby

carmine heron
#

And at the last second when host decides to return to lobby

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It loads

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So now you have to redo the elevator

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And get stuck there infinitely again

inner hemlock
#

having the same issue as posted though when we are able to host only half of the players are visible in the lobby and when we drop into a expedition again half the players are visable and cant be interacted with so no resing when downed and doors only open for some players an not others.

rare fable
# inner hemlock having the same issue as posted though when we are able to host only half of the...

So far it's an intermittent issue that we can sometimes (we think) resolve by 'Clear Download Cache' or changing Download Server on steam to force redistruble downloads.

No fixes seem to be 100% though, if these don't work, then with my friends we cycle through each of us to host and restart the game everytime until we all see each other. This morning it was stuck for myself (for the first time) and it ended up working after3-4reboots and switchign twice the download server.
**Note: ** By reboot, i mean restart the game, not PC
Edit: Out of all the tries (several over 4 days), there is no clear pattern. One host can randomly work for everyone, next day the same player could be unable to join / see the player in game whether he hosts or joins. We tried compared ISPs too, no clear pattern (we are in canada).

tawdry temple
#

jesus this is really weird

inner hemlock
rare fable
bronze vapor
#

Really great time to drop a 50% sale 😒

tawdry temple
#

that was exactly what i was thinking

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50% sale

steam fucks up everything

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this game already has a small ammount of players

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lol

inner hemlock
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al l my bois already own the game we were just trying to get back into it after a break

icy salmon
#

when you says redistributable. can the Steam beta causea problem?

misty quest
#

IDK if we can pin anything to this chat but we should probably have something for this issue.
I deduced that it's either an ISP or Steam problem (My money is on steam).

I've done checks, ports are opened so no firewall related issue. Clear Cache isn't resolving; and in addition, other Peer to Peer games such as Elden ring is also having issues. At this point, we will need to either wait for GTFO (And other devs of P2P) to raise issues with steam. I have no idea if there is a ticket that has gone to their second level/engineers to review but aiming the issue at GTFO devs isn't the way to go here.

If you'd like my credentials I can dm you and if you find any other solution, confirmed resolution-not a trial and error, please feel free to share in the thread.

I haven't done a wireshark trace from all 4 of our affected computers as other P2P games are having issues. Lots of work for something that is pretty much confirmed it's not related to our connections and ISP.

pseudo bison
#

No fix for this?

carmine heron
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And not 100% of the time

pseudo bison
#

I havent cleared my download cache, do we have a path for that?

carmine heron
pseudo bison
#

Still nothing, any word of the devs looking into it?

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Our buddies bought it during the sale and its unplayable rn 😦

tawdry temple
#

This isnt the games problem

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They wont get an answer

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Theres nothing they can do either

pseudo bison
#

Not the games problem but I can play multiplayer on every other game I own... but this one..

tawdry temple
#

Other games are suffering too

pseudo bison
#

Hard to believe

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Like?

tawdry temple
#

🤷‍♂️

tawdry temple
#

Also theres a lot of steam reports

pseudo bison
#

Great argument..

tawdry temple
#

You can see the reports in a website i sent long time ago in here

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Dummy

pseudo bison
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Resend the link? how could I find something from a "long time ago"... Im the dummy?

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Dont comment if you dont have anything to add (with proof)

tawdry temple
tawdry temple
pseudo bison
#

Thanks

soft forge
#

the last 2 times we've tried (seperate days) it's the same issue though

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like earlier in the week and tonight

tawdry temple
#

Yeah it's weird

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Steam is being a bitch nowdays

soft forge
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i don't know how it could be steam

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the odds of gtfo being the only game down from steam issues multiple days appart tho

tawdry temple
#

The Game doesnt use servers
It uses playfab and steam

soft forge
#

so low

tawdry temple
#

Playfab is working fine

soft forge
#

does't that support it being the game bugging?

tawdry temple
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Thats what we thought the first days

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But we kept getting reports and reports

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More than before

soft forge
#

are you a dev?

tawdry temple
#

No

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You can see the reports of the problem in the server and this thread

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In all the chats

soft forge
#

ok

tawdry temple
#

Also the Game hasnt been changed since like december

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It would make no sense it breaks now

pseudo bison
#

Fair point

tropic knot
#

non of these guides work

granite ember
#

reinstalling the steamworks common thingy fixed it for me

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tawdry temple
lone roost
# upbeat wagon we cleared steam download cache

Thank you @upbeat wagon
For anyone having the issue where u can't join your friends (Or when those friends are invisible when u both join the same lobby)
Clearing Steam Download Cache from Steam>Settings>Downloads worked!!

carmine heron
#

Yes clearing steam download cache, changing download region and/or rebooting your router and modem might work

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(I'm starting to think that it might better to copypaste the solutions like a copypasta would be better than making a seperate thread

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Don't think anyone's actually reading through those anyways)

tawdry temple
#

so who knows what the fuck is happening

#

also jesus christ this thread has 65 people

carmine heron
#

Ye

#

Sooner or later we'll make enough noise to justify talking to steam support.
...Although, this issue has existed for pretty much as long as I've been around

tawdry temple
#

i mean yeah but it was 2-3 reports per day

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not 8 or 10

carmine heron
#

I'm slightly worried that it's just that more people are willing to communicate they're having the problem
And that more people found out that the discord server has a tech support forum

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After all, if you just play randoms, if one person has this issue you just live with it and continue
And you forget about it after a little while

winged ibex
#

Clear cache, it worked for me and my friend after we both tried to verify game files multiple times and restarted, and made sure we had upnp enabled for both of us

midnight coral
#

I can confim as dumb as sounds, changing the download region in steam setting to seattle fixed my issue and i could join my group. Steam east servers for some reason are borked, it worked for hd2 which has a similiar issue. Your mileage may vary.

last crest
#

I think you guys are just forcing some connection to Steam to reset by changing region and that's why it works.

carmine heron
#

Which usually solves connection issues (The tried and true turn it off and on method)

#

Problem is the issue's still there, it's just been abated for the time being

upbeat wagon
#

ran into issue again , just clearing cache did not work this time . noting that last time I restarted router , cleared cache , AND reinstalled the game

carmine heron
#

He's not a mod

#

So no

misty quest
#

Ah ok

frozen citrus
#

hope someone could 🙂

meager rain
#

We had luck using hamachi. It seemed to remove the bug but we only tried one match.

rapid dove
#

Seems like changing download region was the fix we needed intermittently

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Last time it happened we reinstalled and that worked for that single session

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But not this time

hexed iris
#

Hi- I read through a fair bit of this discussion. I'm a developer of another game we are also using steam friends to do p2p multiplayer. We are for the first time getting reports of people unable to connect and its been multiple people per day

sterile fog
#

@midnight coral give smoochie cause worked

carmine heron
#

Good luck with your own endeavours

hexed iris
#

Developer support is a different system then customers and they are always responsive. I sent them a support request and asked if they are aware of anything that might be causing issues. Is there any consensus here on what changed?

bronze vapor
#

this game is held together with popsicle sticks and a prayer, people have always had connection issues from time to time

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at some point in the past few weeks, though, there's been a noticeable uptick, with a bunch of people reporting the same or similar problems, and most conventional fixes not working

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hence, this thread

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i will also say ive had some trouble connecting in other steam games that use p2p, like dont starve together

carmine heron
#

This all started some weeks ago, but it's a latent issue that's been around for as long as I've been on this server

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This is all I know about it all

icy wolf
#

Hi all, reporting on another 'Waiting for Master' series of strange things. homies and I all bought the game and tried to link up for the first time tonight. best result we got was 1 game where half the group couldn't see the other half and the rest of the time was spent restarting the game+Steam and trying to get into a lobby with not the best success

tawdry temple
icy wolf
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yeah we all tried that too. 3 of us could join a lobby but the 4th was hit with the "Waiting for Master" loop

tawdry temple
#

That might be an actual connection issue then

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@carmine heron halp please

icy wolf
#

yeah its mighty unfortunate since we were all pretty hyped to try the game out together

bronze vapor
#

dont lose the hype, this game is incredible and we're like 90% sure this is steam's fault

icy wolf
#

I'm trying to hold fast, hopefully this can be resolved. I've been dying to play this game for ages 😭

tawdry temple
#

you can play with bots for the time being

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at least in early levels

bronze vapor
#

try restarting everything, having everyone try hosting, change ur download region, clear your steam cache

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if yk how to use hamachi/are willing to learn several people have said it helped

icy wolf
#

yeah we ran through the whole suite, checked the steam forums and reddit too to see that we're not the only ones. didn't work sadly

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idk how to use hamachi but at the very least i'm gonna try to convince them not to return it immediatelly tomorrow lolol

bronze vapor
#

idk ive been lucky enough to experience these issues fairly intermittently, and oftentimes the whole "do literally nothign except wait 24 hours" strategy has worked fairly well

#

when the steam wizards wake back up

frozen citrus
#

can be something to do with regions, me and bruh have never had such trouble and we play daily .. damn sorry to hear all the trouble

#

on modded server some have changed download location to sydney and then cleared download cache, had some help by doing that

upbeat wagon
#

Reporting back, its just a weird combination if needing to clear steam cache and restart routers. I dont know what the issue is we played for almost a year , then we took a month break and came back to this issue.

Anyways both times my group had the issue we resolved it by resetting the router/internet of one of the two people who cant see the other/waiting for master , then also cleared steam cache. So far as long as we did BOTH of those things we have been able to connect.

#

I wonder if launching GTFO before steam manages to download that common redistribute package thing is what makes it work.

bronze vapor
#

we got a new one

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i am, in fact, connected to the internet

carmine heron
#

steam maintenence

carmine heron
tawdry temple
#

🤨

bronze vapor
#

yeah i know

#

just havent seen this one before lmao

bronze vapor
bronze vapor
#

chalking it up to steam servers

frozen citrus
#

we again cheesed a bot an hour ago, he didn't join back in. he couldn't, steam lost our lobby. an ai companion running on my pc couldnt find the game i was playing, hihihihi

bronze vapor
#

i blame the tuesday

fringe zealot
#

@twilit silo ^

tawdry temple
#

reminder that today is steam maintenance

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tuesday moment

icy wolf
#

praying for Master Gaben to come home and fix the errors 🙏

tawdry temple
#

🙏

bronze vapor
#

gaben please come home with the milk the kids miss you

somber storm
icy bolt
tawdry temple
quiet raven
keen mirage
#

Just clearing the steam cache and downloading the steam update thing allowed my friends to play the game with me, that worked well

#

Thanks for the info

carmine heron
uncut snow
#

just use radmin vpn , works iwth me everytime

tawdry temple
carmine heron
limber socket
#

Another one for the pile. I'd been having the issue people mentioned where another player would be missing in the lobby, or the gun slots would be empty, etc., but I'd been able to play regardless. It resulted in other players sometimes walking around with invisible guns or whatever, and I couldn't use items on them, but everything else worked fine.

Opened the game today and nothing works. Every lobby I try to join is either entire empty, the "drop" button doesn't drop me (if the game has already started), or I just fail to connect entirely. Restarting the lobby, my game, and my computer has had no effect on my ability to successfully connect.

I've cleared the steam cache and restarted my router, and explicitly clearing the ports needed for Steam P2P (as GoldenShooter advises) is beyond my technical skill. All that's left for me to do is wait and hopefully I can play tomorrow, or maybe next week. I have my CLIENT.txt log file zipped, but there's no way to upload it, so if a dev wants it just dm me.

frozen citrus
#

router restart should be enuff, your steam+game requests the router to forward the ports to you with upnp, and sometimes routers get confused. clear the steam download thing and (re)install the redistributable thing, once done, reboot router, play.

#

if it still doesnt work, disconnect internet and usb tether or wifi hotspot to your mobile phone and attempt play with that.

#

weird problem. never had it happen to me yet.

static sigil
#

Another one in the pile

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carmine heron
#

Just follow the advice of the post above yours

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If it doesn't work then we'll see

burnt finch
#

Another one in the pile.... tried everything, no results

burnt finch
carmine heron
burnt finch
#

I do not know...

#

One lobby I was fine then the next one I encountered the same "no character only weapons" bug

#

Reinstalled, opened ports, done the redistributable thingy and router. No success

#

In the log i even tried joining an already started lobby but same bug.

#

I am dumbfounded by this

frozen citrus
#

this week there has been massive windows updates, some reboots and reinstalls could do good.. maybe..

burnt finch
#

maybe cthis can help

#

the log says I was out of sync

carmine heron
burnt finch
#

only the ones i am in, didn't try matchmaking

carmine heron
burnt finch
#

before

#

it happend at random

#

like one day it was fine the next wasn't

#

now it is consistent

carmine heron
burnt finch
#

no VPN

carmine heron
#

Huh...
Give me a moment

carmine heron
burnt finch
#

Yep

#

My other friends are fine

burnt finch
#

quick question: has anybody in here ever installed mods?

carmine heron
#

What mods do you have?

burnt finch
#

none but maybe if we used mnods in the past they have corrupted a save?

#

or something that, in my case, doesn't allow me to sync to the lobby

carmine heron
#

As far as I know there's not really a save file to corrupt

#

Unless you haven't verified your files yet

burnt finch
#

reading the logs it says that my data can't be synced

carmine heron
burnt finch
#

already done every step of the guide

carmine heron
#

The one that your friend has?

burnt finch
#

i think both. it says "CharacterIndex : Session data mismatch! Slave OutOfSync 0 -1 1513949294 0 1. Cleaning up character slot"

carmine heron
#

And it's him having desync with you causing problems for you

#

It's not really waiting for master anymore, just normal desync
Can you send the log you have that has the error?

burnt finch
#

just checked them both, only my friend's log has it, i just remembered incorretcly

carmine heron
#

(I'm starting to think you're just having really bad desync with your group, especially if you haven't played with any other groups)

burnt finch
#

i'm gonna try matchmaking and see what happends

#

the same in matchmaking

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carmine heron
burnt finch
carmine heron
#

@frozen citrus Any ideas

burnt finch
#

yes

frozen citrus
#

4g/5g wifi hotspot or usb tether, disable normal wifi/ethernet.. matchmake. works? u have a router issue..

burnt finch
#

nope, doesn't work. both matchmaking and private

carmine heron
burnt finch
#

my pc has a 3070 and an intel i7 11th gen

carmine heron
burnt finch
#

ok i'll try

carmine heron
#

@last crest Would you know of anything that would cause something like this that isn't router related

burnt finch
#

dxdiag says no problems detected

carmine heron
#

just to safe can you still dump it here

burnt finch
burnt finch
#

ok so apparently i fixed it. had cloudflare WARP on without me knowing

frozen citrus
#

vpns and the like can seriously screw things up ye

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glad u got it

burnt finch
#

thanks, hope it helps another soul

full thicket
#

hi

#

hello everyone can someone please help me... i have been trying to invite friend since 30 min but it's not working

tawdry temple
#

We need logs

full thicket
#

@tawdry temple

tawdry temple
full thicket
#

okay

frank raft
#

yeah so i am his friend and i saw that i shouldnt connect in 5Ghz network am i right?

full thicket
#

@tawdry temple this his log

frank raft
#

here is the master file also

full thicket
#

@frozen citrus

frozen citrus
#

playerlog

frank raft
frozen citrus
#

just disconnect the cloudflare thing already 🙂

frank raft
#

what is the cloudeflare thing?

frozen citrus
#

dont matchmake, share code

frank raft
#

got u

frozen citrus
#

many ppl use cf vpn thing

#

also both make sure upnp on on router and absolutely no vpn, should be fine

sage orbit
#

have anyone success in fixing waiting for master errors ?

tawdry temple
carmine heron
#

If nothing works try signing into your steam account again

#

Sometimes it works

sage orbit
#

well, my steam and game cant even run if I turn Warp off, just stop at the loading phase. I've tried to sign out my steam account, used Hamachi and restarted my wifi router. Is there anything that I can do ?

tawdry temple
#

If You have a VPN turn it off

sage orbit
#

yes already and I'm still stuck at " Waiting for master" 😦

carmine heron
#

STEAM > k_EP2PSessionErrorTimeout 4 The connection timed out because the target user didn't respond, perhaps they aren't calling AcceptP2PSessionWithUser. Corporate firewalls can also block this(NAT traversal is not firewall traversal), make sure that UDP ports 3478, 4379, and 4380 are open in an outbound direction

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if nothing works we'll need logs

sage orbit
carmine heron
#

@frozen citrus It's the same error, but for some reason nothing we suggested are working

#

Any ideas?

frozen citrus
#

sounds like hamachi installed

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it might keep the hamachi lan adapter present, even disconnected that can screw things up

sage orbit
#

Yes me and my friend try to use hamachi but still no

frozen citrus
#

hamachi will only hurt

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gtfo is 0% lan game

#

all players must contact steam and playfab in the internet, then start firing packets at each other thru steam proxy servers

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i recommend upnp on for everyone, also steam must be a high-priority game in any quality of service software like asus gamefirst

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if no worky, disconnect all internet, connect via your phone's hotspot, either wifi or usb-tether, if it works then, u got a router issue, eitehr firewall or upnp off

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(try uninstall hamachi entirely, sometimes a bogus lan adapter has been known to mess up gtfo networking)

carmine heron
#

what is hamachi anyways

frozen citrus
#

lan vpn, allows ppl to play lan only games over net

sage orbit
#

Finnally solved. I change my dns ( ipv4 and ipv6) and all my friend do the same, I can play normally

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For ipv4 enter 1.1.1.1 and 4.4.4.4

carmine heron
#

@frozen citrus Any idea why this works

frozen citrus
#

weird dns issue from isp.. .1 is cloudflare never heard of .4

last crest
gentle lintel
#

Hello,
after some years we tried to play together again and it works for all but one. He can't join us, stuck in "Waiting for Master" and seeing the wrong Rundown Number "R3A1" or "R2C2". Or if he creates the lobby and we join him, we don't see him and he just sees that the bots leave (we also tried without bots, if thats important). If he leaves, it works but he cant rejoin. We tried router restarts, open ports, clearing IP the Stuff, we even tried it with a hotspot and it doesnt work. We tried Steam Download Cache clear, changing the download server, clearing whole folders and reinstalling the game. He does not use a VPN. He now uses Windows 11, so we assume its a W11 Problem. Anything else we could try?

📎 GTFO.zip
frozen citrus
gentle lintel
#

alright, will try

gentle lintel
granite jackal
# frozen citrus gtfo is 0% lan game

Just want to check something. If someone connects to their WiFi via LAN cable, could that cause issues in connecting? Been trying to play with a friend and we have come across the issue of either not seeing each others loadout, or even charcter and once we try to do the drop it doesn't let us. He made a thread and was directed to this one and we can't see anything here that helps us, mostly due to him being limited in what he can access as he's using a public WiFi in college. Also a lot of things mentioned here we have no clue what is being talked about, such as what UPNP is or does, etc.

frozen citrus
#

cable meaning ethernet to lan is in my opinion always better than wireless. public wifi may have no upnp and thus gaming will be hard. vpn might help.

granite jackal
#

@crimson spindle ^

frozen citrus
#

its all about the network stuff, gotta get packets from internet to computer and that requires forwarding.. upnp is automatic "forward this here please" ..

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but if no upnp, one must manually go into router and forward certain ports ... if no upnp and no router access, out of luck. vpn might be a good workaround, vpn service does the forwarding...

granite jackal
#

Thank you, that clears some things up

crimson spindle
#

I'll try checking with the college's IT department and beg them to give me upnp access.

odd cobalt
#

Yo, I have been having the same issues (joining friends lobbies has missing players/loadouts and can't drop, if i host same problems). First started happening after my internet went out mid-game, switched to my hotspot to keep playing. Afterwards i switched back to my internet but the issue started happening so i've played on hotspot since. Tried about everything i could said above but no luck.

carmine heron
odd cobalt
carmine heron
#

@frozen citrus might be able to help, usually he knows these things better than I do

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But most of the time it's just checking ports and making sure that everything works

odd cobalt
#

i have had the "STEAM > k_EP2PSessionErrorTimeout 4" error in my logs

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but i couldn't figure out how to fix it

frozen citrus
#

first order of business: check your network adapter for the goofy optimization protocol thingy

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if it's there, disable immediately

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cant remember what it was called, some gigabyte motherboard driver thing

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also if any other QoS software like asus gamefirst running, make steam high-prio or remove entirely

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router reboot if not already

carmine heron
odd cobalt
#

checked for em, pretty sure have none of them, have rebooted router

frozen citrus
#

try dns 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 if not already

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some isp's do a funny with dns'es

odd cobalt
#

have tried dns settings, no luck

frozen citrus
#

can u share ipconfig /all

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wifi or ethernet?

odd cobalt
#

ethernet

odd cobalt
odd cobalt
#

the error does appear when people try to join me

frozen citrus
#

just thinking how u are connected, are u in 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x or similar, then can u try tracert google.com, what are the 3 first hops

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if your isp changed you from direct internet to something that has NAT infront, your router could be effectively doing double-NAT and that's when UPnP flies out the window

odd cobalt
#

its 192.168.x.x

frozen citrus
#

sometimes i've seen ppl be 192.168.0.5 and their router is 192.168.0.1 and the 2nd hop out is isp 10.0.0.1 and 3rd hop is first internet ip

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== 10.0.0.1 is doing NAT to 192.168.0.1 is doing NAT to you .. mba-a-a-a-d mkay

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also could just be.... if your ethernet is private network, switch to public (or vice versa)

odd cobalt
#

pretty sure i've tried switching this, can try again quick

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doesn't seem to have an affect

frozen citrus
#

real weird.. maybe try factoryreset router.. dunno

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maybe isp updated it for u and enabled some firewall fubar

odd cobalt
#

disabling firewall didn't fix the issue, haven't tried a factory reset

odd cobalt
#

i guess ill try a reset

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didn't change anything :/

carmine heron
#

would you mind dumping the log files and we'll see if something weird is happening
(at the very least, I'd like to have more logs for this bug)

odd cobalt
frozen citrus
#

i def see a good steam and playfab init

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all of this just seems like udp packets not reaching u correctly, are u 100% sure about the upnp stuff?

# 
16:09:59.817 - Player StackPack timed out before getting into the session
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i'm assuming stackpack is your buddy

odd cobalt
#

yeah stackpack is my bud, im pretty certain upnp is enabled on my router but ig not about the ports, pretty sure its not the firewall tho

icy wind
#

Getting this issue now - unable to join lobby either nothing happens when accepting steam invite or when i try to join through the game itself I get a black screen and "waiting for master" then get kicked back to rundown screen.
When i try to host myself friends try to join and they get into a lobby but i am not in it. Have tried verifying file integrity, reinstalling the game, and clearing my steam downloads cache. :(

Any other suggestions

tawdry temple
#

We need your logs

crimson spindle
#

I've since moved back home and still having the issue so would it be a system issue rather than network?

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@frozen citrus sorry to bother you again.

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I tried uninstall, clear steam cache, dont have cFosSpeed, direct connection with hotspot never connects, idk abour upnp, and I am running off of Ethernet cable to router.

crimson spindle
frozen citrus
#

one can try yes

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some isp's do weird dns things for guest networks or transparent proxies etc

crimson spindle
#

Is that what I should change it to? IPv4 perferred ends with 1.1.1.1 and alt 4.4.4.4? what fills the rest of the code?

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@frozen citrus sorry if I'm bothering you at all

frozen citrus
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1.1.1.1 is an ipv4 address

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like 8.8.8.8

crimson spindle
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would having cloudflareWARP and a seperate ethernet connection active at same time effect anything?

frozen citrus
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they might .. warp at least can wreak havoc

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if the other ethernet is to a lan network, shouldn't be a problem, as long as it doesn't have a funny multiple ip address thing going

crimson spindle
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My ethernet and warp have two separate IP's, is that an issue?

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If that's an issue, is that where i mainly change IPv4?

frozen citrus
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well... ... warp literally does dns stuff iirc

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does it work with warp disabled?

crimson spindle
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It seems to make it worse. When it's off, they can't even join the lobby before kicking them off the game completely.

frozen citrus
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try disable second ethernet just for kicks

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someone had a problem with multiple network cards once years ago

crimson spindle
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well given that it's my one connection to worldwide web, unsurprisingly, no one could join my lobby

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After some time in the lobby, it seems that the other players start seeing me where before they couldn't at all. They can see my gear, and that I'm readied up but we can't load in and text chats also can't go through

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voice chat works both ways as well.

frozen citrus
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upnp

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ive debugged somwone with only voice alt works all like u say

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he had no upnp

crimson spindle
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upnp seems to be in enabled.

crimson spindle
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IPv6 doesn't seemed to be configured, and it seems my computer is only recieving half the packets my router is sending.

crimson spindle
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any other suggestions? I still need to check out the dns options

crimson spindle
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I went back and tried to do what worked previously for others were I and my friends all changed ipv4 and I went off this video to do so and liek with the video, after I restarted my dns did not change and it was already set to manual and I could not change it to automatic.

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I tried 1.1.1.1 and 4.4.4.4

frozen citrus
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sounds like router needs a reboot or there's some nat rules pushing packets elsewhere

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those go after upnp iirc

crimson spindle
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I fixed it. It seems my CLOUDflareWARP was not properly instaleed so when I deleted it completely, i was able to finally play.