R5A1 Secondary bot not standing in S scan

[carmine dune]

We usually play as 3 with 1 bot, and occassionally the bot will refuse to enter scans. This is particularly noticeable in full team scans, where it will result in a forced team wipe. This has been happening for over a year, really frustrating.

[dreamy anvil]

This is very well known already, your best short-term fix currently is just to kick the bot and do the scan, then afterwards readd the bot

[humble patrol]

Are there any commonalities that you notice when the bots don't enter scans? What are they doing instead? Are they just idle? Are they shooting at other enemy? Are they looking around? Are they trying to go to the bioscan but can't find a way there? Are they close to you or far away?

Is it only certain types of scans? Does it happen more frequently in certain levels or certain zone scan than others? Do you have any videos showing them not entering the scans? As much info as possible will be really helpful so we can repro this and hopefully fix it.

[severe kernel]

one cornercase example is r6d3 overload, split-3-fullteam-s-scans. 2 humans 2 bots, player 1 followme bot 1, player 2 followme bot 2, issued well before shutdown. 2 humans go to circle "a", bot 1 comes with. but (usually hackett) bot 2 wants to do circle "c". so humans and bot 1 join him in circle "c", and "damn" hackett then rewards this move by exiting the circle, stands "in formation" with group but not in any scan circle. does combat, moves with his followme, but will not join in scanning a single circle regardless of where humans go next. lock him out, scan starts with a,b,c .. unlock him, a,b,c,d no problem rest of game. since december 2021 on and off, very unpredictable except for this level, that (part of) scan.

[fossil sparrow]

Most of the times I have this with extraction scans and they basically just stand on the edge of the scan itself

[humble patrol]

Any particular levels with the extraction scans?

[severe kernel]

bots have never cared about extract, ever.. u might trick one or 2 in by going to the edge of the abyss but if there's active enemies, those bots will fan out and not scan, no matter where u are

[fossil sparrow]

I remember having it with r3c1 (vanilla bots) extraction. I even went down and they only got in the scan to revive me

But on extraction as hirnu said it's kinda commonplace by now, I'm pretty sure most levels do that, r4a2 for example too, or r2a1

[severe kernel]

there's been 10s or 100s of instances but one og r6dx first alarm i remember, first yellow team-scan and our only bot bishop just stood outside. no reason for him to, he just did. good old gouda camembert treatment and a good bo(t/y) rest of the evening.

[fossil sparrow]

Now that I think about it, I cant recall if I ever had it without an alarm being on

[frigid tartan]

not an extraction scan but faced it during R6D3 after checkpoint (northern door alarm scan that leads to the 4th reactor code terminal)

[frigid tartan]

each time we replayed the level from the checkpoint it was reproducible, before that we used to kick bots a lot (by locking the player slot)

[severe kernel]

hmm maybe something to do with team-scans then? yellow or purple .. i don't remember a bot not being eager to scan smalls, silent or red..

[thorn depot]

i think in that case the issue is that the bots gets stuck on killing the flyers in position, it also happens on kraken fight in r6d1 at the staricase, they don't move and proritize targeting the flyers

[cosmic lynx]

Bots will not get in any extraction scan on any expedition, it almost seems like they are programmed to avoid the scan, and this has been happening since the bots were added.

Laughably easy to reproduce, just play any expedition with 1-3 bots and observe the behavior during extraction.

[humble patrol]

Interesting, thanks for all the info, we'll take a look and see what we can do