#gtfo-spoiler-chat
light totem
It wasn’t intended to pull rooms and shoot them up with sentries. You had to pick and choose the risk opening a box. Not something you worried about in a squad cause mg go brr
So solo you ended up with very little res
It was amazing
delicate chasm
R2 machinegun go brrrrrrrrrrr
delicate chasm
Error balanced
light totem
Ok. So most people rush in and cause wave to spawn in front
But the way in solo is to brute force it so the game works in your favor
Which nobody does except the most elite in squads
Well. Rephrase, it doesn’t matter for them because they are the elite. But for some of the top players, they do it
pseudo pumice
e1 was so good
pseudo pumice
perfect balance of stealth and action
atomic escarp
Imagine being able to run E1
wanton willow
Can the Tank be C-Foamed to stun lock them?
atomic escarp
It'll take a lot of foam iirc
delicate chasm
OK you redeemed yourself
light totem
But if I stopped for a split second it was insta death
So bio could t be used when killing
So tbh. I probably didn’t need bio for it
delicate chasm
That's basically the kiting rule once you start you don't stop
light totem
It was a very hardcore circle kite
And you could have up to 4 shadow giants there with you without a ton of risk
5 was not a good idea and I wiped on killing the fourth
delicate chasm
Oof
granite sail
wym dont stop, sips drink stands in scan 100 - 20
light totem
delicate chasm
Just tell the sleepers for a timeout they'll understand
delicate chasm
I knew it I was always too shy to ask
light totem
OwO shy boi
delicate chasm
light totem
delicate chasm
light totem
sledge users^
delicate chasm
Agreeable they hit an enemy and it bounces off them and hits themself
light totem
Ye
delicate chasm
Well I'm off to bed I'm tired
light totem
Cya cya
delicate chasm
Noight
raw loom
@orchid vault
exotic heart
in c2 overload, there is optional objective where u supposed to find a terminal to put in the code
what is it for? i mean without it, our group still got PE
hexed vapor
There is no terminal or code on C2?
exotic heart
when we are running for extraction, it says to put in the code in terminal 700ish something
optional objective
hexed vapor
Literally never seen it.
exotic heart
guess i need to capture it
warped cipher
rundown the fourth is awesome
queen nymph
Not in C2
dapper dagger
guys are the chargers spawning in the D2 alarms random or bugged? I have full runs on high difficulty where no chargers spawn during the alarms and others where they spawn in every scan past the first cell door.
obtuse surge
yeh its random
atomic escarp
what if the warden is like a final boss at rundown 1000
hexed vapor
I take back my complaint about D1, it does get harder. Just feels like you have a lot of resources spare.
forest hound
When I had giant chargers and shadows come from a blood door in d2
I screamed
It was so much fun
D2 Extreme is loaded with prime gtfo content but I still gotta try overload
hexed vapor
D2 is peak GTFO
weak anvil
What is a cluster alarm?
pseudo pumice
8 scans instead of 4 
weak anvil
yikers
hexed vapor
What alarm, if any, is on the door for the second supply room of D2's main path?
forest hound
Surge
pseudo pumice
^
forest hound
It mixes it in with chargers too I think. Maybe I just got unlucky
hexed vapor
I think charger titans are on all surges, for some reason.
hexed vapor
Interesting.
nocturne flax
You can get giant chargers, its rng, you can have up to two as far as i know
forest hound
Once had around 10 normal chargers charge my group from a blood door. Hit us all at once I went from 68 health to 0 in around 1 second and so did everyone else
Rng can be painful
And I just discovered that even if a wall is blocking the second punch of a giant striker it still counts as walking forward
So the hit box is very unclear with them if near walls
nocturne flax
The game have a lot of animation/hitbox issues
especially when it comes to punching
forest hound
Yeah makes the game a lot harder but it's understandable being early access
And I just found out that error alarm spawns keep stacking
nocturne flax
i mean its been 4 rundowns
i would love to see it fixed next one tbh
i had experience a giant punching a teammate and he hit me from like half a meter out of his model
forest hound
Hit me through a box on second punch I was more than half a meter away from the animation and couldn't even see him
nocturne flax
also that too they hit trough terrain too
harsh pelican
The 2nd supply room being the other door that requires a cell?
because that is not a surge alarm
It’s an unmarked Rundown 1 alarm, 4 scans
forest hound
And jesus are shooters accurate. I just wanna test the spawns but noooo they wanna screw me
Well the one that requires a cell is a surge in my experience
nocturne flax
i mean theyre suppose to be accurate, also they home into you
forest hound
In d2 right?
harsh pelican
The 1st door that requires a cell and protects the zone that contains the fog repeller is a surge, correct.
forest hound
Are you telling me there is more after the class 6 cluster
We didn't bother with the class 6 due to low supplies so we tried the surge
And died horribly
harsh pelican
No, it’s an optional zone you can take the cell too if you don’t go for the fog repeller door
It has two scouts and very little extra supplies, so not many people go for it
forest hound
So there a zone after the class 6 cluster that needs a cell and is not a surge alarm just to clarify
harsh pelican
I gotta get a map of D2 but these are all the alarms on the main path:
- class 2 cluster
- class 3 cluster
- class 4 cluster
- class 5 cluster
- 2 class 6 clusters
- apex door with a mix of big scans, clusters, and a team scan (class 5)
subtle vault
Bruh
forest hound
Jesus
hexed vapor
Isn't Apex class 6?
harsh pelican
the optional paths are:
- the overload with a surge alarm
- the fog repeller zone with a surge (needs the one cell from a separate zone)
- a bonus "resource" room with a normal 4 scan alarm (needs the same cell)
hexed vapor
1: Team
2: Cluster
3: Big
4: Cluster
5: 2 Big
6: Team
harsh pelican
oh lemme check footage
forest hound
So there is pain after that class 6 cluster. Glad to see that this game doesn't disappoint
harsh pelican
yeah, you're correct, I missed counting another big scan
hexed vapor
Wasn't too bad when we ran it on minimal resources. We set up at least a little on each approach and just focused on scanning.
forest hound
I just know that the extreme drowns you in fog
hexed vapor
Got roughest at the end when defenses started to run out.
harsh pelican
It's pretty messed up they can spawn from the side areas for the last apex door
they totally made them two rooms large on purpose for that alarm alone
forest hound
But there is a ton of scouts behind overload from what I heard. Wouldn't be surprised if they are shadow scouts too
hexed vapor
Meh, w/ no time crunch scouts shouldn't be a threat.
hexed vapor
Graphical issue?
forest hound
Nah just they are in dark areas for me so far
I just avoid em since there is always 2
nocturne flax
its basically a strecht out sleeper with the hitbox of a scout
forest hound
Ah come on how is that fair
harsh pelican
I thought their head was a little strange lookin
hexed vapor
It's literally a bloated striker head, you can even see the teeth.
forest hound
Hitting that is gonna be harder than ever in that case. Scouts hitboxes are a pain already
harsh pelican
also like how they're encouraging people to melee-kill scouts more by placing more of them together in a room
forest hound
When you smack the upper neck of a scout. Those moments are awful
nocturne flax
Ah come on how is that fair
@forest hound its literally a normal scout...... its actually easier once you realize the room its borderline empty
aim upper
forest hound
So basically always aim up on scouts
nocturne flax
all the same tricks apply to shadow scouts
hexed vapor
It's mostly just muscle memory and recognizing the things scouts do when they're only a shadow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fc9l0dEcvk
forest hound
I noticed you crouched and it didn't touch you is that only from the front or all sides?
hexed vapor
That's just sprint-aggro.
Feelers have a pretty big grace period when they're just sent out.
nocturne flax
you have a like a second before it actually detects you
forest hound
Ok! Gonna try out some new strats then
nocturne flax
New?
light totem
For him
forest hound
I had a door strat. I wait at the door until I hear the scout open and close to trigger then kill after. Maybe I was being too careful
light totem
forest hound
||Shut||
nocturne flax
I mean thats not really a strat thats just playing it safe
light totem
^
forest hound
Eh I guess scouts still make my nerves go off
hexed vapor
Here was my original sprint-aggro video to show off how effective the tactic is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErWpHGbXsUs
Probably a bit easier to understand when you can actually see the scout.
hexed vapor
Depends on if host.
forest hound
So host is better to kill scout then?
hexed vapor
Depends on if you find up-right scouts to be more difficult to hit (which they can be).
I personally prefer being host, especially for shadow scouts, but it tends not to matter.
forest hound
I still got a lot to learn about this game.
harsh pelican
Scouts only lower their head from sprint-aggravation if host?
hexed vapor
Scouts always lower their heads when extending feelers in general if you are host.
They still can lower their head as non-host, but they don't have to, and in my experience they're unlikely to.
Should also point out that scouts will always raise their heads if they start lowered after a duration.
tribal cosmos
is the fog in d2 extreme time based or door based?
hexed vapor
Time.
forest hound
You get pretty close to those scouts. Don't they trigger if you touch them or is it only if they are not shooting tentacles
tribal cosmos
we stayed in area for like 20 mins and the fog didn't rise
but the moment we open a door the fog rises
forest hound
I use 90 fov
forest hound
121 hor 90ver I think
hexed vapor
95 hor 63 ver, which is actually higher than it was when that clip was recorded by something like 5 hor.
forest hound
I can play at max fov but low fov I can't handle
light totem
Same boat here
forest hound
Gonna try play at max for a bit
hexed vapor
Just not a fan of high FoV, I want the advantage but I prefer the game look mostly normal.
light totem
Hmm. For melee only combat high is better 🤷♂️
forest hound
It's so small
hexed vapor
I usually just depend on conventions for melee. Try to keep track of what's around me and what could hit me depending on what I do.
forest hound
But I feel so fast
light totem
What’s the slider at 120?
forest hound
Yeah
light totem
Oof. I play 111
weak anvil
Any tips for R4B2?
light totem
But ye. Not much difference between 120 and mine
mortal granite
full clear?
forest hound
God and I feel so far away when I can hit an enemy
forest hound
I feel like I will touch the enemy when 1 meter away
light totem
Basically
pseudo pumice
360 fov when
light totem
Fov distortion is a pain to learn
weak anvil
Normal clear @mortal granite
Do we go upstairs first or downstairs / put in the cells as we get em or all at once?
forest hound
and the enemies hit me from a mile away
forest hound
Kinda feels like they go from ---- to ---------
light totem
That’s a different issue entirely
devout river
@weak anvil Go downstairs, get the 2 cells from those zones (Make sure you have both before putting them in) then once you put those two in go upstairs and get the cells from there
weak anvil
👍
light totem
Getting cross mapped. That’s the fun part
hexed vapor
Do the alarm for the upstairs first thing, though, so that they have less spawns.
mortal granite
down
forest hound
B2 ain't so bad if yous stick together if things go wrong and kite the enemy
hexed vapor
I want to see the Barghest pic at max FoV.
Even at low FoV, that range is fucking absurd.
devout river
@weak anvil Ye I did not mention but like rayalot said do the alarm into upstairs first
Forgot to mention that
weak anvil
👍
light totem
We have the same technical issues. I just play with high fov
hexed vapor
Time travel confirmed.
mossy yoke
it tries to find a suitable host, if it can't such as not good enough network connections then it can't.
when it migrates, it does reset back to the last good save in time, so if the previous host, or new host has really bad internet, then the last good save could be a bit further back, usually it's less than 10 seconds
hexed vapor
Kenny should include this in his speedruns, just find the reactor code and then host migrate to before they opened the security door.
harsh pelican
Last time host migrated it softlocked C2 and all alarm doors couldn't be opened
thoroughly bug tested 👍
mossy yoke
thanks for the sarcasm
we actually did a lot of bug hunting with it, and even have some more fixes coming for some improvements.
harsh pelican
lookin forward to it
frail elbow
for a beta its doing fine. not as clean as r3 but the complexity and moving parts is way higher in this rundown
so its expected there would be plenty of odd interactions
hushed moon
what kind of mine placement do you need to do for that 4 hybrid blood door on C2?
forest hound
On the wall facing the door. Then kill them afterwards. You ain't killing them all
austere dagger
does someone have the audiolog from c2 ?
atomic escarp
What strat should I use to kill henry in C1 main?
nocturne flax
bait agro
atomic escarp
How?
nocturne flax
you shoot the sacs he will agro on you, then have a teammate shoot the sacs then he will switch agro again, do that till hes death
keep distance obviously
devout river
Ye he goes after the person who most recently shot him I think
nocturne flax
also have a guy taking care of the waves coming in
devout river
So just get people on both sides of him and shoot back and forth
thin palm
How hard is A2 overload compared to Extreme? Is it worth skipping ex and go straight to overload?
devout river
Overload is a decent bit harder
nocturne flax
if you wanna do overload you have to go trough the overload first
then do extreme
theres no bulkhead key on extreme door
frail elbow
can always split into two runs if you wanted
nocturne flax
what moskold said, its the best way to approach that
frail elbow
but for prisoner efficiency you gotta do the error then the other one cuz there is only one key before the two choices
and the final key is in the error door area
behind it rather
slow steppe
what is the best strategy for getting the data sphere out on C2? Moving it up incrementally to stabilize and bio-scan? It doesn't seem you can get it out in 1 carry. Had 2 failed runs so i'm curious
frail elbow
just regular run?
nocturne flax
thats overload
slow steppe
no p-e
frail elbow
no idea haha
nocturne flax
move steady but securily
have the biotracker as active and communicative as possible
thats mostly it
slow steppe
that is pretty generalized, i guess we just fell apart or got unlucky
bio obviously cant go down
nocturne flax
well the whole team need to be 100% focus on it, even if bio its on cooldown
the three of you can probably hammer the wave pretty easily
after leaving the bulkhead door, should be smooth sailing
slow steppe
we died at the second bulkhead after we lost the bio, we dropped fast
or somewhere between first and second bulkhead, anyways thanks for the comments
hopefully next run is a win, sucks to reset with new ppl most of the time lol
nocturne flax
I mean you cant really blame it on them since its theyre first time playing the level
ocean tundra
If I'm takin a sentry, which one should i take for dps? Burst still seems best but the auto sentry seems real good too.
nocturne flax
burst sentry for kill, auto for stagger
slow steppe
nah i'm not blaming anyone. win or lose as a team
nocturne flax
both are extremely good if your there to support the sentries
slow steppe
stagger effect is so nice. can solo a ton with it
ocean tundra
Aight, thanks guys
nocturne flax
burst sentry if you put it facing enemies back can 2 shot enemies
dark bane
atomic escarp
I need to actually get good at GTFO
feral token
you guys are good at the game?
devout river
no
light totem
imagine being good
atomic escarp
I never was "good"
blazing thicket
how do you kill tank in c1?
devout river
Shoot it
It goes after whoever last shot it so we had people on both sides of it and they would just go back and forth shooting it
Because the one side shoots it and it puts its back towards the other side, then they shoot it the back faces the other side and so on
Also mines can do it but they have to be in good positions
mighty pond
Shoot the blobs on it's back
weak anvil
What would you folks recommend as the easiest A/B to do an Overload on
weak anvil
I thought as much. The scouts caught me off but I imagine it'll be easy with 4 players.
safe siren
is there any way to know earlier in the game which terminal you get in C1 extreme?
safe siren
oops right
hexed vapor
A bit unfortunate.
sweet imp
idk if this is spoilers, but in a1 can you find the HD's via terminal?
safe siren
we only got the lucky terminal once
forest hound
Yes you can
sweet imp
what are they called in the terminal?
mossy yoke
list hdd
clear steeple
Thanks
twilit remnant
What's the chance of getting scouts in the hsu room on a2
I got like 3 fucking scouts
rich estuary
resources
crude otter
It just seems like alot of work to get into there
rich estuary
👀 maybe it has logs of some sort in there
crude otter
you haven't been there?
crude otter
@mossy yoke do you know?
rich estuary
👀
mossy yoke
forest hound
Huh I was pinged?
crude otter
My question^^
harsh pelican
2 scouts together, a lot of sleepers, and if you activate the extreme objective a lot of toxic fog
almost never worth it if going for PE
haven't thoroughly checked for logs though
crude otter
So why would you go through the trouble of getting the cell AND doing the purge alarm?
harsh pelican
You can't get the fog turbine and go to the "resource" zone, there's only 1 cell in D2
forest hound
D2 cell is death
crude otter
I am even more confused now as to why it exists
harsh pelican
If it wasn't an alarmed door at all, it might be worth considering
forest hound
Enjoy!
crude otter
👀
mellow creek
sniper feels so underwhelming this rd
forest hound
Yup sniper is bad yada yada Honestly needs a buff
meager elk
The sniper isn’t at least in my opinion, it may feel this way because it has a smaller magazine, so if you miss your shots, it wont have a good affect, it is still as powerful
light totem
If you dont get an occiput shot on a giant. It now takes three shots to kill with the head bug and the reduced body damage nerf
So either an ammo buff or removing the body damage reduction
forest hound
Ammo buff 8 more bullets. That's all I want
light totem
Basically what it was in R2. Yeah
forest hound
Ok so sniper can penetrate but when I shot a giants head through a striker it still had loads of hp left.
light totem
Basically as it sits. There is no reason to run sniper over BC. Unless the user is absolutely garbage at controlling recoil.
And that’s cause sniper doesn’t have bullet pen
mellow creek
body nerf/low ammo size etcetc
whatever sniper can do, bc and the new sg can do better
lol
light totem
But 🤷♂️ I said this a while ago, and it was ignored and shunned ofc
forest hound
Yeah warden showed me his good the BC is. There really is no reason
mellow creek
especially in d1d2
no reason to run a sniper lol
garbage when dealing w charger giant charger waves tooo
forest hound
Ignoring and shunning neko... Well I would never
light totem
Riotgun is bae
forest hound
Wait the auto stuns hybrids
light totem
Everything
forest hound
Well... Guess that's the weapon I'll try next
light totem
But it cannot kill very efficiently
twilit remnant
I use the sniper to silently kill scouts
From like
2 rooms away
That's literally it
mortal granite
now do it in D2
queen nymph
I think sniper is efficiency when you only do high level, which is similar to the burst sentry
spark ermine
can you stealth kill big sleepers from a room away like scouts?
queen nymph
Depends on which part of the body you shoot
But why would you shoot a big sleeper when it can be stealth kill by certain amount of people hammering him
spark ermine
my friends and I aren't very good at hitting big sleepers on the head
HAHA
we once had four people try to sync hammer one and we still didn't one-shot it
light totem
nocturne flax
we once had four people try to sync hammer one and we still didn't one-shot it
@spark ermine you probably hit the front
Its 3 people in the back
4 to make sure
rich estuary
Usually gotta hit the head for big shooters since they have more health
mortal granite
2 occiput full charge hammer will kill big shooter/hybrid
rich estuary
Occiput?
light totem
Back of the head
rich estuary
Lmao just took advantage of the rollback on host migration to save our c2 run. Everyone wiped on a surge alarm
When it switched hosts it set us back before the alarm
Had a major desync though because when people rejoined the level reset for them. Took a couple reconnects to fix it
mortal granite
be aware
door that already broken
when use host migration
those door are back to normal
but you can't open them
lilac cloak
Host migration has some weird issues regarding world state host vs others
Like D2 extreme fog, objective items, what is seen in terminals
queen storm
sometimes it changes your position giving you the host's health, while respawning enemies and having a fake error alarm
lilac cloak
Yeah, far from perfect but playable no doubt
obtuse surge
For B1 extreme which zone has the birther?
devout river
The final one
For the last code
Dont remember the zone number
It is on the left from the reactor
obtuse surge
so there's no alarm or anything in that zone
devout river
No
obtuse surge
ok
devout river
It has a lot of resources iirc
hexed vapor
227 I think?
twilit remnant
The sniper killing giants silently is not possible
Just hammer lol
I'll be using a BC in the lower levels
Because lower levels have a shitty LOS
nocturne flax
yep
frail briar
Thanks Black Dragon 🙂 Got PE
nocturne flax
C2 its sucha fun level
native creek
.
main knot
do the monsters from previous rundown stay or do they get replaced with new monsters?
iron marsh
without spoiling anything else, are there shadows in this rundown?
devout river
I mean yea I guess
devout river
Ye I know its kinda hard to answer
bold sparrow
monsters can be rundowns specific I bet, as we now have a more developed roster of enemies I can see some rotating in and out
obtuse surge
died on wave 4 for B1 extreme
the enemy collision is actually so fucked
getting to a nice path where they all come from 1 side is just a horrible idea now
it just makes them push eachother forward
the weapons are aids and enemies are constantly shifting positions at the speed of lightning
the strat is literally to aim somewhere in their general direction because fuck there's no point in aiming anyway when there's a horde coming at you
autumn mauve
Uh chief I think you deal with constant alarms with the hammer
atomic escarp
I am very curious what was the purpose of this project? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQnOvgEbfh0
What is happening here does not seem like a disease to me.
This is R4A1 Audio file
light totem
god i love when you carry a team thru D2 and the hosts wifi takes a shit and resets the Entire level after you clear it
frank mauve
Neko, it's the 2nd of November
light totem
wut
forest hound
The clocksmith knows time like no other
remote karma
B2 overload question. I've heard some people saying that it's a bad idea to mess with zone 295. Thus, my team always went for class 6 alarm and blood door first. Even though we died the the blood door, I'm so curious: what's in zone 294 and 295 that some people go for both alarm and blood door?
remote karma
Thx for info. How many of them though? 😄
obtuse surge
i think it's 2, but we supposedly got 3 at one point
desert shell
Bruh
there is a scout behind a blood door in C1
Guess what?
We opened the door
and it Screeched
frank mauve
that's just a GTFO feature
humble sapphire
what would you say is the easiest overload? Kinda stuff here trying to unlock d tiewr
whole locust
Is the only way to access B2 overload by opening extreme for the keys?
Well hell...Is there not much of a difference between efficiency and overload then?
I guess it's always possible to pivot and escape just to get Extreme if things go assbackwards.
I see. Thanks, dude.
oak dove
what is a cluster alarm?
harsh pelican
8 scans instead of 4, but they take less time to complete
oak dove
ty
mint horizon
What is the best way to finish R4B2
my team put in the cells and it got hella foggy, not sure what's the best way to do thignsf
dreamy bramble
depends what objective you're going for
red needle
the fog lowers each gen. get the ones that have no fog first and add one into the gen each time you need to change the fog altitude.
I think we were able to do the default difficulty by getting 3 cells and dropping them off by the gen, then turning it on for those 3, then going for the 4th which was now above the fog
exotic heart
What is the best way to finish R4B2
@mint horizon get all the 4 cells before plugging any of them, 86 and 87 has minimal fog..
hexed vapor
That's for overload, if you're doing main objective do 88 and 89 first and plug in both cells at the same time once 86 alarm is done.
At 3 cells fog won't be an issue.
safe siren
does the scout spawn more waves if you don't kill it once it got triggered?
lyric narwhal
no
hexed vapor
Negative
lyric narwhal
it may seem like that if youve hit the effective enemy limit and the scouts waves need to split after killing enemies
safe siren
thanks 
frail elbow
Feels c2 man
cunning gust
Hey,
Is it a good option to simply not clear some rooms and even pass on the loot in some of them? Stuck in B1 at the moment because we end up going loud too often when not absolutely necessary & I remember doing that for one of the B levels in R2 that had a lot of giants.
nocturne flax
Well, it depends wich rooms and how popoulated they'are
cunning gust
Like Zone 53 for exemple where there are always giants in addition to the pustules on the walls
We always go loud in that one and it doesn't seem worth it
nocturne flax
you can skip a room but if you wake up something big 2 rooms away and you have to pull back to a previous room (wich you will most likely will) you''ll have a bigger chance of triggering 2 rooms instead of 1
best thing i can tell you its to have a little bit of patience and try to kill everything during stealth
cunning gust
Yeah but when you have 2 giants right next to each other, almost touching even, seems impossible to stay stealthy
atomic escarp
With 2 on each giant you can stagger chain the 2
cunning gust
Ah, didn't think of trying that
nocturne flax
if you have cfoam you can cfoam one kill the other and once the cfoam wears off it would not trigger
unless you accidentaly hit the one thats cfoam
cunning gust
That's also interesting. Wouldn't that burn through C-foam too fast though if you have to permafoam a couple doors down the line?
nocturne flax
havent play a lot of b1 (only did it once since its a chore), i didnt perma foam a door as far as i remember
there should be a spare resources
cunning gust
Ah alright. We went for that strat as standard for the first alarm door in Zone 54
nocturne flax
Hey,
Is it a good option to simply not clear some rooms and even pass on the loot in some of them? Stuck in B1 at the moment because we end up going loud too often when not absolutely necessary & I remember doing that for one of the B levels in R2 that had a lot of giants.
@cunning gust i completetly forgot about what you typed
you can sneak past them if you have too
but you have to remain quiet for the entire zone
cunning gust
Alright, I think we'll try that. Sucks to be stuck on the 3rd level ahah
nocturne flax
you gained knowledge of what you have to do
so next time you will fly trough the level
cunning gust
Yeah, 5 times we gained knowledge ahah. Still couldn't pull it off so our approach is wrong
nocturne flax
what the gameplay aspect that you guys are struggling with?
cunning gust
We are too uncomfortable as soon as there is fog or the wall pustules I think and we resort to going loud to often
woven coyote
is the alarm on b2 extreme infinite or nah
nocturne flax
We are too uncomfortable as soon as there is fog or the wall pustules I think and we resort to going loud to often
@cunning gust have turbine or someone with a decen flashlight to light the wallsacks as you move trought the area
you have like 8ish seconds to move trough without the wallsack reseting
cunning gust
Yeah but we are scared of making a mistake and ending up encircled by 4 big dudes
8sec? didn't know that, thanks
woven coyote
are there uhhh any tips for b2
nocturne flax
If its really bad rng, and you have to go loud, its better if you pull back and have somebody shoot the once to pull the room
just get near the doorframe and have somebody shoot once, also bring one burst cannon cuz burst cannon bae
cunning gust
Yeah that's what we do, but we end up doing this for 2-3 rooms which may be too much as we end burning too many resources
nocturne flax
am
you cannot have that much of a shitty rng
theres no excuse to wake up 3 - 4 rooms
cunning gust
Yeah, we are probably just a bit bad
nocturne flax
one bubble
wallsack: screeches
cunning gust
AH cool. I really hate those things
atomic escarp
Hello
I am here
People i respect hello
People who use the Burst cannon. Hi.
Filthy
frail elbow
@cunning gust going loud in that room is fine honestly if your doing a regular run
just do the loot room at the end to get loot and make sure you protect doors for the alarms
and sneak as much as you can of course
i regularly pull 54 as well cuz sneaking all that crap in fog is aids
forest hound
Eh I mean in b1 you only get around one med pack and one ammo pack until the end . Just make your shots count if you do go loud. With just a little more ammo however it would be too easy.
And they are pretty much always in the last fog room
forest hound
Lack of ammo imo and health
cunning gust
Yeah I feel like we get by ok going loud in 53 & 54 but if we get a bad RNG after that or miss the scout we get wiped before having a chance to go the disinfection room
forest hound
If people shoot early it's over honestly.
atomic escarp
Newer players don't know when to walk/run and crouch so it feels long for them
frail elbow
yeah
forest hound
I never have used the disinfection room. Found it but never used
frail elbow
im not crazy about the difficulty spike tbh
obtuse surge
do extreme for more resources 
frail elbow
new bro walks into 227*
atomic escarp
The only annoying part of B1 is the wallsack zone
frail elbow
forest hound
The wallsack zone is super easy to stealth tho
atomic escarp
Its easy but annoying without the LRF
obtuse surge
everything is annoying on B1
cunning gust
im not crazy about the difficulty spike tbh
@frail elbow Yeah we got lazy and just went high in A1 & A2 which felt very easy as a consequence and B1 is a big jump
forest hound
Just take your time and if giants are blocking your way to generator then you can actually still get the cell in by going down the steps in the room and going near the locker by gen
atomic escarp
Replays that include harder sectors can go a long way in getting good
obtuse surge
first alarm on main has a very unfortunate zone layout
enemies spawn like 15m away from you
forest hound
It feels hopeless as a new player
atomic escarp
B1?
obtuse surge
yes
forest hound
But it ain't so bad once you know what you are doing
frail elbow
yeah that alarm in the fog as a noob would suck
obtuse surge
for the first alarm they spawn right at that door
atomic escarp
1st alarm is the fog zone right?
obtuse surge
yes
frail elbow
then realizing your like 2/3rds finished after that
and there is a scout in fog behind the door
cunning gust
We just permafoam that door, don't if it's the right call
forest hound
With new players every room is an alarm room
frail elbow
no thats perfect
hold on to fog repells for doing the scans and cleaning up etc
yeah
forest hound
Yeah you gotta tell your team to not use fog repellers and save them
cunning gust
yeah we keep 3/4 fog reppellers for that door
frail elbow
closing doors behind you can limit stuff if you wake things so you only have to deal with the immediate room etc
atomic escarp
1 foam on the door is good enough for the 1st alarm in B1
cunning gust
Turrets outside or inside you think?
obtuse surge
the 2nd alarm, the scans also go into the fog right?
frail elbow
outside worked
forest hound
Outside
boreal tendon
inside is better due to game mechanics
obtuse surge
forest hound
Uh
cunning gust
OK. That's what we do as well but we burn through all the turrets' ammo
atomic escarp
And if you have a decent bio user (if one of you uses it) it gets easier
frail elbow
inside can work but its a pretty short scan section so outside is fine
no need to freeze the wave tbh
boreal tendon
the spawn of next wave depends on amount of kills on previous one and it doesn't matter if one enemy or 20 are knocking on a door it'll go down at the same time
forest hound
That ain't entirely true in my experience
Sometimes doors just go boom
And it's because certain enemy types I believe
atomic escarp
Iirc it's the same for all types of sleepers
frail elbow
i would try and hammer scouts as much as possible
you gonna have to in the next levels
cunning gust
Yeah but we missed twice on the runs we managed to get a shot at it...
forest hound
It's hard to test how many enemies are on the other side of a door however. A single enemy seems to take longer though I may test a room and single sleeper incase I am wrong
cunning gust
Yeah might be a good option 'cause I don't feel like carrying a sniper is a good idea
boreal tendon
sniper is inferior to burst cannon in every way
u can bodyshot a scout with bc and it won't wake up
just realized, sniper doesn't even oneshot regular chargers
forest hound
Sometimes things may glitch honestly. I once somehow destroyed a door with 2 hammer swings uncharged.
frail elbow
it still possible to no charge sleepers in the back of head
forest hound
Yup
blazing thicket
c2 is fun
forest hound
D2 is fun too bad I fail everytime
primal pollen
!syringe
pseudo pumice
.t syring
jaunty hedgeBOT
Sorry, unable to find a tag named syring.
jaunty hedgeBOT
What each syringe does: The red one gives you health, but also infection, the yellow/green one buffs your melee for short time, also gives you infection.
hexed vapor
Is the syringe blue and black or white and gold?
hexed vapor
Seeing that for the first time was actually the coolest shit.
When I saw the article it was clearly white and gold. I read on a bit, scrolled up, and it was black and blue.
Have never been able to see white and gold since.
light totem
Wtf
hexed vapor
Craziest shit I've ever seen.
pseudo pumice
it's like light-blue and gold smh
feral token
its yanny
forest hound
It's laurel
light totem
lanny
forest hound
Yaurel
blazing thicket
Yanny and blue and black
light totem
wut
theey are amazing
YES
imagine not being able to kite all of them
and hammer them
smh
that was in R3
was barghest host 
oof
f
mossy yoke
Sorry warden
queen nymph
Omg Christmas doggo
oak dove
Is there any benefit to doing the optional challenges other then bragging rights?
nocturne flax
Eh not so much
desert shell
what if Big scouts exist
sly pivot
🤔
humble sapphire
Whats the strat for c2? really strugglin
atomic escarp
Bruh
Did c2 overload just before right
God i LOVE
The door sound
where it just goes
Warning Threat level
OVERLOAD
@humble sapphire
Finish main objective
Go into extreme bulkhead
Clear it
Do Overload, quickly
Clear scounts with a sniper rifle
Run back
do the 2nd extreme bulkhead
clear the scouts with sniper again
take the HSU back with you
complete the scan
light totem
Clear scounts with a sniper rifle
Ew
boreal tendon
imagine not clearing scouts with an autopistol
cunning gust
autopistol meta for everything
light totem
Mhm
cunning gust
Never even tried it actually. The super low damage doesn't seem like a good trade-off for the stagger capability. I'd rather get kills than delay them
whole locust
I think it's pretty nice.
Just roleplay as an autoturret.
It can still do decent damage if you drill heads or if the stun makes them do their little spin-around animation.
cunning gust
Yeah but why not do the same with the AR or revolver and inflict more damage faster. If your aim is good enough to get headshots consistently, it seems more efficient
light totem
It’s not meant for dealing damage
whole locust
Just being able to constantly fire without thinking too much. Kill, stun, make space. I mean, meta is being good enough to just pull hammers and kite, but being able to hold ground more or less forever is pretty nice.
Especially if you have team mates who can work with you.
light totem
Yep. It’s a very playstyle oriented forward support gun
whole locust
If you think autoturret stops them dead, think of smart autoturret that can just stun anything not in a stun animation.
cunning gust
I suppose that makes sense.
atomic escarp
@light totem I do it because clearing scouts with a sniper is easy
light totem
My reason for using it, many times it is much more beneficial to stagger but not kill enemies. Like surge alarms. And you can just sit there holding your groundwith it ez
atomic escarp
And its not my fault if you cant kill a scout without alerting the room lol
Just shoot from a different room
light totem
Nothing less satisfying than shooting scoots
light totem
Except maybe dying to a scoot
atomic escarp
V satisfying
light totem
Nien
atomic escarp
Ja
atomic escarp
I love the sniper bro
light totem
So gross
atomic escarp
You say everything is gross, so it doesn't mean much coming from you
atomic escarp
atomic escarp
Mother i can agree on
MFW you recommended me to the BC but then changed your mind 2 weeks later
atomic escarp
But you told me oh its "WAYYY BETTER IN R4"
light totem
R4 it has a place at least
atomic escarp
Its place is in the fucking garbage bin
light totem
It literally has 720 DE
feral token
Burst cannon more like lame
atomic escarp
so bad
atomic escarp
So is the choke shotty
feral token
Not really
light totem
Still more versatile than sniper
atomic escarp
Excuse me
feral token
Choke sorta sucks against giants imo
atomic escarp
@feral token 
light totem
^
atomic escarp
BRUH
light totem
Like soy said
atomic escarp
Y'all must be stoopid
light totem
Nope
atomic escarp
if you can't kill a giant
feral token
A full mag to kill a big striker from the front
feral token
Just use melee ez
light totem
Choke is an anti charger gun
feral token
I don’t care about this game enough to use guns the right way
atomic escarp
Pistol, Sniper, Mines
light totem
But ye. I’ve been running BC. Absolutely demolishes giants and anything it touches
But that charge is so long
atomic escarp
But its bad
light totem
Ugh
light totem
At least it feels better to use. It was actually trash in R3
atomic escarp
^^^
light totem
Only cause it now destroys everything
atomic escarp
it is also trash here in R4
feral token
I remember seeing it at first in r3 and thought wow this is cool
Then everyone said it’s shit so oh well
light totem
@atomic escarp would like a word with you Lox
I mean. Same with me for shitting on the worst special in R3
light totem
Bio
feral token
Scout is better
light totem
Cough
atomic escarp
You know what
feral token
But for tools id say that it’s defiantly burst sentry 
atomic escarp
I have a friend who is an artist, ill pay him to turn the sleepers into anime waifus with big tiddies
light totem
feral token
Also I can’t believe you’d betray mapper like that neko
light totem
Mapper gang
feral token
light totem
It also isn’t in yet
atomic escarp
@feral token 4 shotgun sentry gang
feral token
Get that R1 meta out of here
light totem
^
atomic escarp
last garnet
Hi all. Anyone have this pic in the rundown 004?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/522894627007758353/773512345036521472/unknown.png
I see this randomly when i kill sleeper\change weapon\just running\exploration
light totem
Sentries have never been good
queen storm
x8 damage 😎
feral token
Sentries were good when we didn’t know they were bad
atomic escarp
Saying sentries have never been good is like saying America is a nice and stable country
Its not true
light totem
I came from a group who refused to run them in R1
Also is true
They have a very low maximum potential for usage
atomic escarp
Sentries are good, but they are situational
light totem
Where as every other tool vastly outperforms it
light totem
Mhm
atomic escarp
Bio is big pp energy
queen storm
auto sentry has a similiar effect to c-foam now
queen storm
delays waves
light totem
Yeah. It’s decent but a tool waster
feral token
If there’s no doors then auto is a pretty good alternative imo
light totem
Mhm
atomic escarp
If you know you can't silent a room
pop some at the door far apart
shoot once into the room
watch em flop
light totem
10 mines = 10 possible wave clears
feral token
But what if there is no door 
light totem
Actually you dont want them on doors for maximum efficiency
atomic escarp
Put them on your side of the door for maximum efficieny
atomic escarp
place them away from the door on the opposite side
light totem
While it’s efficient, you need to use 2 mines to clear a wave on a door
atomic escarp
What i mean is because mines blow doors open
light totem
Whereas one not on a door with good positioning
light totem
I know wut you mean
feral token
I wonder if mines are still the most damaging thing in the game
feral token
Hm but do you judge a burst cannon shot on the burst or each individual bullet
feral token
I wonder if mines damage has changed at all since R1, they used to do a min of 60% of a players health
light totem
Still max at 100
atomic escarp
Thats what i mean
atomic escarp
Oh
atomic escarp
i was already drawing if you said it before
light totem
F
atomic escarp
Effectiveness 100%
light totem
Maximum is placed on the door side in specific locations maximizing kills based on their pathing
It’s weird and Ik a lot want me to make a vid about it
atomic escarp
Mines explosion damage is not AOE
light totem
Ik
atomic escarp
Its directional based on the laser
glacial crescent
^
light totem
Fuk
glacial crescent
What
light totem
Verm. Do I enlighten the pub on my D2 spots
glacial crescent
Nah, not worth
atomic escarp
I run mines normally, not comfortable with seeing the shock and horror of shit tons of sleepers in the next room lol
light totem
Principal remains the same regardless of spot
But maximum effectiveness will come from Testing
light totem
Mhm
atomic escarp
Wow
light totem
End me
atomic escarp
No no, End ME
light totem
I will
glacial crescent
Lol
light totem
With BC
light totem
I hate that I unironically run it
glacial crescent
Who remembers the day when soloing R1D1 was considered pro
atomic escarp
I will release montage of amazing Kills with the sniper
and you will fall in love with it as i have
light totem
I refuse to run sniper
light totem
It’s practical efficiency is trash
atomic escarp
Don't test me
glacial crescent
You wont, no balls 😛
atomic escarp
BET
glacial crescent
dew it
atomic escarp
WILL DO
glacial crescent
atomic escarp
Ill do it tomorrow cause deadass i have so much uni work to do
light totem
F
atomic escarp
Bruh ill kill 6
glacial crescent
F
atomic escarp
Ill throw the spent cartridges at the other 3 scouts
light totem
It gets 3-4 a pack
atomic escarp
3 shots
light totem
And has no pierce
atomic escarp
total 12 ammo
light totem
light totem
Get back to us when sniper can get more than 3 kills a ammopack
light totem
atomic escarp
bonk them with the handle
stick a knife on it
Boot knife when
so i can kick sleepers in the fucking face and kill them
Actually legit
Can we add this in R5?
Pls Bootknife
lilac jackal
punt the sleepers for their soup
devout river
We should be able to punt a sleepers head into other sleepers tbh
atomic escarp
Is anyone here able to get some really good screenshots of Wood's helmet??
rich estuary
Define good