gtfo-spoiler-chat

[atomic escarp]

You thought B1 was bad? Guess you never saw R2D2 then

[forest hound]

I'll pass

[atomic escarp]

Anyone would

[forest hound]

I mean I am still new to the game

[atomic escarp]

You’ll get the gist of it pretty soon it’s not all that complicated since all advance tactics and strats are well established

[forest hound]

I got the gist. Just haven't had the game for even a week. Anyone know if big shadows exist in this rundown though I wanna see how bad they were for myself

[light totem]

R2D2 boring af

it wasnt too bad tho

[queen nymph]

I enjoy R2D2 more than the current one tbh XD

But the current one is also good in a different way

[hexed vapor]

R2D2 was a fan favorite, not sure if R4D1 lives up to that from what I've heard.

[forest hound]

Going on the principle of "it could be worse" is the vibe I get from people who played this a lot

[queen nymph]

It's slightly different

[light totem]

fan favorite, it was heavily hated

[hexed vapor]

It was the top voted on polls of favorite levels, lmfao.

[atomic escarp]

Mate I couldn’t even stand straight whenever I played it don’t know how the hell it managed to be fan favourite

[forest hound]

Kinda like how people say scouts are friends.

[light totem]

not food

[atomic escarp]

The only food they’ll eat is a hammer to the head

[forest hound]

Moving bonk targets

Not so bad when you get the hang of it. No snipers on my team

[bold sparrow]

Sniper rifle really bad

unfortunately for it

[forest hound]

Yeah the ammo efficiency... it's I can't

[hexed vapor]

Pretty efficient if you're not wasting ammo on body shots.

[forest hound]

Just use revolver then

[atomic escarp]

Sniper rifle can be maximised with a good main firearm but also is dependent on the shooter aswell

[forest hound]

I mean also depends on who is host

Non host sniper bad

[atomic escarp]

Nah not really

I’ve seen a couple peeps manage to get 5 scouts in a row without being host

[hexed vapor]

W/ sniper? That's not even hard.

If you miss with sniper, host or not, you're garbage.

[atomic escarp]

Never tried it so I never really put thought into it

[hexed vapor]

Should only miss 1/10 shots on scouts, really.

And that might be a bit generous.

[forest hound]

I'll remember to say that to the people who missed the scout with their sniper to add extra insult in

[hexed vapor]

Dude, I had a HEL Rifle in C1 that pissed me off.

Insisted on shooting every scout, regardless.

[atomic escarp]

Oof

[hexed vapor]

Of the 3 shots he took, missed 2.

First was annoying af, too. Got a double kill, HEL Rifle panics and alerts scout.

[forest hound]

I sometimes panic swing after mauling a scout and hit the ground. I head back to my team and just stay silent.

[atomic escarp]

Honestly scouts still piss me off for just existing mainly for the fact that if I miss I get a mad fucking hatred for myself

I mainly play for the game for assistant for peeps and if I fuck up it gets to me a lot

[forest hound]

I mean at least the scouts are doing their job well in that case give em some credit. They are meant to be painful imo. Everything in this game is.

[atomic escarp]

The only thing I find painful in this game is when the reactor levels decide to give fuck me over and make me deadweight on the team

Other Than that nothing else gets to me

[forest hound]

I mean. Depends on your playstyle tho. I mainly use pistol and revolver with auto sentry. Hard to mess that one up

But yeah playing with new players then messing up royally... It sucks

[atomic escarp]

Eh that doesn’t bother me at all tbh

[forest hound]

Fun to hear them panic tho

[atomic escarp]

Don’t think I’ve ran into people that new yet

[rain heron]

its much worse people who run and empty their bullets instantly, then get overrun

[forest hound]

Well you can tell they don't know what they are doing by mine and turret placement.

[obtuse surge]

the trick is to melee them during the whip sound

to scare your team

[rain heron]

oh call of duty how much dmg you made to the industry XD

[forest hound]

"need a guide on how to scare newbies without just throwing the match"

Imo saying there is a lot on the bio tracker works wonders

[obtuse surge]

wake every sleeper before you kill it

so it starts the music

[forest hound]

Make every enemy throb by standing from a crouch

My favourite being "Look through the glass to zone 80" in c1

And finally to non new players. "Hey is that a big shadow"

[light totem]

Hah

Until you know there hasent been big shadows since E1

[forest hound]

Yes?

[dark bane]

First?

[forest hound]

[dark bane]

R1d1?

Interesting why is that?

[forest hound]

True solo is pe 😩

That optional surge door tho

My team let me down

Doesn't timer for scan reset on leaving circle?

[dark bane]

it doesnt for most scans

[forest hound]

Huh

[dark bane]

smh where that D2 PE solo

[forest hound]

Disregarding the optionals wouldn't be fair in comparison to the other rundowns imo. since they didn't have optionals right?

[obtuse surge]

D2 main and also D2 overload sound very doable to solo

D2 overload solo would just be slowly moving carry item while kiting enemy cap after you've cleared main

[forest hound]

So an error alarm

[dark bane]

how easy is it to kite enemies while holding a slowcarry item

[obtuse surge]

well you'd drop it

[forest hound]

You die in my experience

[obtuse surge]

gain some distance, move it some more

[dark bane]

lmao

that sounds bad oof

[forest hound]

Or you can save yourself the trouble and... Die

[dark bane]

lmao

[forest hound]

Don't you have better things to be doing should be on your mind. 👍

And of course you don't

Play more gtfo

[dark bane]

I mean tbh i still havent even done b2 yet so

lmao

[forest hound]

Oof

Just gotta do c2 and D1,D2 now

Or better yet slow carry faster by being a speed runner ez pz

[obtuse surge]

just desync and sprint with the carry item

[dark bane]

btw is C1 Extreme harder than B2 PE ?

just wondering

[atomic escarp]

I heard it’s a verify terminal but it’s got 12 steps in it sounds pretty good if the RNG makes the terminal in a good spot

[obtuse surge]

if you get the bad spot you'll need smart tool setup and get ready to use pretty much all resources you have

[atomic escarp]

Any idea if it’s still the terminal sets out 6 sleepers out for you or not?

[forest hound]

Don't use ammo or tools @steep turret

If you do it's over.

[steep turret]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

[forest hound]

Yup

[steep turret]

ok i suck at this game

then how to you fight the big ones???

you just avoid them???

[forest hound]

Also stealth spitter room. If big guys block your way in room c of the spitter zone then you can still put the cell in just find the right place by the lockers in the c room

I mean you learn to count and find someone else who can count

I wish I was joking

It's that simple

[steep turret]

ok i think i will go to bed it 4:37 am where i live

thanks for the tips

[forest hound]

123 charge then let the charge run out

Hit the backs btw

[steep turret]

back of the head

or back

[forest hound]

Back

It's easier

[steep turret]

ok

[forest hound]

Good luck and good night

[steep turret]

i usually go for the head

thanks

[forest hound]

Warden. Is that true about the limbs?

I never knew if it is

[light totem]

It’s not limbs themself

4 hammer hits to the front kills a Giant. Limbs to the front are frontal hits regardless

But

^

[forest hound]

AH

[light totem]

Beat me to it

[forest hound]

This is why I love spoiler chat

[light totem]

Nah. We are pretty cancerous here a lot

[forest hound]

Ya don't say

[pliant shard]

Just shoot all of them 4head

[rich estuary]

just one scout alert? that's not bad

and?

oh when it's 2 or 3 scouts is when it becomes a problem

you can bounce back from 2 scout alerts, 3 is where it gets iffy

D1 gives you a lot of ammo, especially if you go through the extreme sector

[hard gate]

Is a sniper rifle the only "silent" way to deal with a scout?

[forest hound]

No

[hard gate]

Can you sneak up on them? I haven't had a chance to actually see or fight them yet, but they seem like they'd be impossible to sneak up on.

[pseudo pumice]

literally run straight at them and bonk

[light totem]

You can melee

[forest hound]

Hide behind door with bio tracker open when close to it then quickly close door again then open when it retracts and bonk em in the head

[light totem]

You can shoot with a variety of weapons

Mines

[pseudo pumice]

c-foam

[light totem]

There are a lot of options

[hard gate]

And none of these methods will activate the other sleepers in the room?

[light totem]

They will/ can

[forest hound]

They keep scanning if a door is open in their zone.

[light totem]

Gunfire and mines will

For sure

[forest hound]

Make sure the doors are closed then listen otherwise

[light totem]

Hammer can if the player isn’t careful

Hmm

What

[forest hound]

Ohno

[light totem]

Ooh yikes

[pseudo pumice]

is that even possible

[light totem]

I wish you mental wellness

Yeah it is

[forest hound]

Ah I see you have no life nice

[light totem]

I got 150 of R3 in the first month. And I didn’t play it that much

[forest hound]

Oh god

[pseudo pumice]

i have never gotten over like 20 completions lmfao

[light totem]

[forest hound]

You guys scare me

[pseudo pumice]

how do you not get... bored

[forest hound]

Guys I think you should gtfo

[light totem]

I do

I hated R3A1

[pseudo pumice]

if the rundown concept was not a thing i would be GONE

[light totem]

I dislike a majority of R4 and find it too boring

As such I’m not playing much

[pseudo pumice]

R2 was just

[light totem]

Good

Mhmm. Miss E1 sooo much

[pseudo pumice]

🤌

[pliant shard]

chefs kiss

[light totem]

Wut?

[pseudo pumice]

MWAH

i think it was bc of the amount of new content

[light totem]

R2? Ye

[forest hound]

I shoulda got the game ages ago

[rich estuary]

R4 is the best rundown thus far, change my mind

[pseudo pumice]

r4 is just like... r3 the remix

[light totem]

Also actually hard for us then

R3 was an easier copy of r2 levels

R4 is kinda the same with some tweaks

And layers

[pseudo pumice]

i thought sectored difficulty would be different

[forest hound]

I was doing D1 and someone said it was like a level in rundown 2 I think

[light totem]

D2 is fairly unique. But everything else feels like a seed reroll of R2

[pseudo pumice]

yup

[light totem]

And some R1

Ie R4C2

[pseudo pumice]

i miss r1, there were some GOOD tiles we have not seen since

[light totem]

Hmm

Yes

[rich estuary]

mmm, tiles

[forest hound]

I guess I didn't miss much haven't touched the extreme for D1 tho

[rich estuary]

D1 extreme isn't too hard

[light totem]

Nope

[rich estuary]

just gotta deal with double birthers in that one room

[forest hound]

That's why you play gtfo. For tiles

Need 4 cfoam grenades then... And once again. I learnt stuff

Heh thank

Still haven't came across shadow scout but I'm pretty sure it's real tho. Probably either c2 or D2 I'm guessing

[light totem]

D2 VI tile is the only reason to play it

Jk

But it is amazing to look at

[pseudo pumice]

is that the mass graveyard one

[light totem]

No

The one before

But also that one. Yeah

[vagrant fractal]

In B2 it seems that the fog just sort of pops in if you activate multiple generators in rapid succession

[forest hound]

The fog layer moves down in my experience

But haven't done rapid insertion yet 😉

[forest hound]

Oh no

[abstract ruin]

C2 favorite level so far

[errant saffron]

Did they take out the C-Foam Tripmine? i haven't seen one in a few runs.

[upbeat rover]

Just rare from what I've seen, I got one last run I did like few hours ago

[errant saffron]

Ty

I wish they would glue doors :/

[rich estuary]

they do

[atomic escarp]

They do

[errant saffron]

how? I put mine on the door frame, like i would a normal mine.

I felt like I was placing it wrong

[atomic escarp]

Facing the door pretty high up

[errant saffron]

I didn't think of that, thats a good tip

[livid moat]

You can even shoot it if you just wanna seal the door up right then and there.

Unfortunately it seems like it’s gotta be a pretty direct line to get an actual seal. Even balancing it right on the seam where the door shuts on and shooting it doesn’t get all the globs

Might still be better to let enemies trip it though cuz there’s a lot more globs than required to close off the door.

[rich estuary]

I think the tripmine has more than what it takes to seal a door

so it kind of goes to waste

[digital halo]

For B2 || you want to do the scan with the red room but dont open the door yet. Move on to find 2 of the cells for the generators then once you have found 2 of them and plug them in, then proceed to open the door for the fog will then go down just to make it easier for you for the red room. ||

[quiet stone]

Yeah but what's the overload like after putting in 2 cells?

[devout river]

Foggy

I think it would be best to just do the side stuff first before doing the cells

[dreamy bramble]

my team did main objective to get it out of the way, but just left all the cells by the gen

[hexed vapor]

I believe our group did 2 cells first try and it was foggy af.

It's supposedly foggy even w/ 4 cells.

[dreamy bramble]

yeah my first attempt we put both cells from the non alarm zone into the gens

[queen nymph]

Foggy

[dreamy bramble]

but we went to the overload zone and realized we messed up

[queen nymph]

You can't put any cells in if you do overload

[dreamy bramble]

thats what we did from that point on yeah

[queen nymph]

I normally just go straight to the foggy room to overload. You wanna do those 10 scans when you have the most resources

[lone crypt]

which zone in d2 has the murder scene?

[devout river]

There is a murder scene in D2?

[lone crypt]

or should i say mass grave

[devout river]

Eh I have not played D2 yet but it sounds cool

[mellow creek]

101

boss room

[lone crypt]

oh alright

thank you

[fierce remnant]

has anyone else seen a big striker but instead of flesh his had like prostetic legs ?

[hexed vapor]

That's just if you shoot the legs off.

[quiet stone]

Wait until you see the big shooters chicken legs

[pallid salmon]

shooter doing chicken strut

[frail elbow]

Delicious

[glass sundial]

I really thing what the game needs and would a healthy direction to take is more common enemy variants, rather than just one-off usage of special enemies in C/D tier

Common like, striker/shooter common

[light totem]

Brawlers and melee rush shooters when

[devout river]

d1 kinda hard for me

[atomic escarp]

that is when I'm not accidently shooting you in the face it is

[devout river]

It did not happen a lot

[exotic heart]

where is zone 102 in D2 ?

and where is zone 101, lol

stuck at 98 ish

cant get to 99

[exotic heart]

is there an E level after D if u complete all the rundown sectors cleared?

You should be able to find the alarm doors to lead up to it
@atomic escarp found it, thanks

[devout river]

@exotic heart No

No E tier

[exotic heart]

so what is the rundown sectors numbers beside opening D level

high 8 extreme 8 overload 4 PE 4

i wish there is an E level after those sectors being cleared, lol, nvm

[light totem]

Maybe In The future an E tier will require all PE clears

But for now it’s new. So 🤷‍♂️

[exotic heart]

hopefully so

[devout river]

I wonder how hard an E tier prisoner efficiency would be

[light totem]

not hard nuff

[exotic heart]

D2 PE is hard

[light totem]

Since main layer would drop a fair bit

It might contend with R2

I just want f tier

Eh

Not awful

[exotic heart]

goping to sleep now

[nocturne flax]

Burst canon so good

[rich estuary]

I tried it but the machine gun is more favorable in my opinion

Machine gun doesn't do well in crowds, all shots land on one enemy. Damn does it take titans down though

Err burst cannon^

[nocturne flax]

comparing burst canon yo machine gun its like comparing a bulldozer with a lamborghini

two different purposes

[thin siren]

Is this entire game focused on stealth until it forces you to not be?

[pliant shard]

Certain missions like reactors force you to just shoot the waves coming at you.

Most levels focus heavily on stealth or risk losing precious ammo or health because of unnecessary alerts

This can make certain alarms or next areas harder because you’re tighter on ammo or health

Overall the general rule of thumb is that stealth is usually a priority. There’s a reason that melee is in slot 1 and not your primary

[thin siren]

I mean fair, I guess I just wish the game was a little more varied

Is what it is

[pliant shard]

It will get more varied with each rundown. The devs stated that they are using current rundowns to test capabilities of their tools

So hopefully whenever we get closer to full release we will see larger variability in objectives, material, and future levels to spice things up in the complex

[thin siren]

That would be nice, I do enjoy the challenge to a certain degree

[rich estuary]

I feel there's a lot of variety this rundown

It was different before they changed it

[thin siren]

I get board of stuff pretty quick, so maybe thats my problem

[rich estuary]

Do you mix up your load out of try different tactics?

[thin siren]

Like the only creativity that you get is when you need to defend an alarm or something, and even that feels pretty limited, and yeah but for the most part its basically make sure you have foam, mines and a turret, its pretty much the same strat every time in a different layout

[west crow]

Holy shit it’s white haired goku!!!!

[forest hound]

Came across my first shadow in d2 and giant charger. Wow wee

A glowy tongue from the dark came for me. I died

Heard you can't stealth kill the giant chargers though

[pliant shard]

You can just with a lot of precaution and 4 members

[forest hound]

My members werent so good with the whole communication thing

[pliant shard]

If you mess it up it’s pretty much a wipe because you get multiple pimp slaps that 100-0 you

[forest hound]

Better than tenty in dark

[pliant shard]

Yeah that does it. You best bet would be shooting them with your heavy guns like BC or choke mod

[forest hound]

Imo because we died in the next room to shadows

Back hits yeah?

Cfoam might do them in actually

Might try that

[quiet stone]

That's right, shit terminal spot on C1 extreme 4 times in a row. I bet you're asking "how can one be so unlucky?" Well I have no clue either.

[forest hound]

Just did c1 extreme a little bit ago

Took 2 tries in total but c1 ain't so bad just takes awhile getting back to the extreme tho

[pulsar shuttle]

anyone got a map of D1?

i just need to know terminal locations of the last zone

[still bay]

does the alarm sound in C2 after you get both things in extreme?

[barren badge]

no

[still bay]

thank you

[vagrant fractal]

if you get to the overload sector on B2

before you put any cells into the generators, will it still be full of fog?

[ocean tundra]

Anyone got tips for a duo trying to be B1 extreme?

[forest hound]

Use cfoam on mother. Use plenty resources. Have turns taking lead for reactor phases and 2 sentries

But overall prepare for pain

Because I wouldn't try duo the extreme unless I like pain really

[ocean tundra]

wait hold on theres a mother? For context me and my friend have only been past wave 5, died while getting key.

[forest hound]

Actually I hate b1

Yup

Get 2 grenades and blast her with them after getting key

Then you are all clear

Kinda

Some enemies in the mother room. Which is the key room

[ocean tundra]

is she a avoidable in any way or do me and my bud gotta bite the bullet and face er?

[forest hound]

She is avoidable

[ocean tundra]

Aight, thanks man

[forest hound]

But if she aggros keep those grenades in mind

[ocean tundra]

gotcha

[forest hound]

Just bonk ez

[vagrant fractal]

yeah we beat that mission without even waking it up or killing it

but fr in B2 is there a way to do the overload without fog or is it there no matter what cells are/arent in the generator cluster

[hexed vapor]

0 cells.

Is how you do it out of fog.

Either bring cells to cluster without inserting them or just do the overload as soon as you can.

[vapid moon]

died on the last door for A1 solo. any tips on that one?

[forest hound]

What tool do you use?

[vapid moon]

I used mine deployer

would c-foam be better?

[humble sapphire]

So what's the play w Big Daddy in c1?

We just got rolled by papa

[forest hound]

C-foam or turret would be better for solo. Proper placement makes a world of difference

Oh @humble sapphire 5-7 mines above the door to his room all in the same place will kill him

[humble sapphire]

Ahhh clever

[forest hound]

Only above

[humble sapphire]

Thanks for the tips

[forest hound]

No strats needed just mines

You can even place them inside the door early for extra safety

[humble sapphire]

Makes sense

[forest hound]

C1 is a bitch if you don't know the mine strat

[pale mountain]

Where is Zone 14 + 15 on C2? My group couldn't find it.

[forest hound]

If anything it would be through the blood door and fog

[sharp valve]

so wheres the overload activation in b2?

[pale mountain]

oh my goood we just threw a match since we didn't know XD Thank you though

[forest hound]

Oh my god you couldn't find that lol

I still gotta find the overload for myself actually. Probably in one of the bulkhead hubs

[pale mountain]

yeah dude it's actually crazy. Because we figured, hey, it's gotta be through 13, or we gotta go through bulkdoor, it didn't occur to us that there was a bloody door we forgot about XD

[sharp valve]

ok yeah cause the first bulkhead hub is the extreme but doesnt give overload option

[forest hound]

There is 2 bulkhead hubs

[atomic escarp]

c2 in one sentence?

[forest hound]

Scouts are gonna tentacle you

[atomic escarp]

great lmao

[pale mountain]

Scout filled fuckzone with confusing layout apparently lol

[atomic escarp]

lol

[forest hound]

Or better yet. " We killed the scouts but the mother fucked us"

[pale mountain]

^^^

[mossy yoke]

There is none

[light totem]

[atomic escarp]

C2 in 2 words

bad fps

[mossy yoke]

Get a 4090 gfx ;p

[twilit remnant]

Nah the hydrogen HTX 9090

[forest hound]

Smh with 100fps

[pliant shard]

you wish warden

[light totem]

Imagine under 100

Smh

[forest hound]

mfw 400+ fps on menu

Omen laptop

[light totem]

What graphic settings

[forest hound]

Ha

[light totem]

The lowest

[forest hound]

Max

[light totem]

Nah. Laptops are getting better

[forest hound]

I used to think the same

Till I got the omen

[light totem]

Nah

Desktop always better

[hushed moon]

^

unfortunately

[light totem]

[hushed moon]

what is behind A2 overload btw

is it an error

[devout river]

Yes

[hushed moon]

glad i didnt do that one

[light totem]

It’s pretty easy

[devout river]

Ye its an easy error

[light totem]

Iirc like two or three every 45 seconds or something

[devout river]

Its kinda annoying cause a lot of the time they spawn ahead in the scout room

But the error itself is not that bad

[light totem]

Even then

[forest hound]

PE a2 is surprisingly easy

[light totem]

whole rundown is

Nothing compares to R2

[forest hound]

Surge is pain

[light totem]

Sadly

Wut

Surge are great

[forest hound]

No

[light totem]

Yes

Smh

[forest hound]

Smh

Nothing says surge like d2 chargers with surge

[light totem]

If you want to know pain

[forest hound]

Then it's perfect

The best thing in the game

[light totem]

4-5 surges. During the hardest error in the game. Whilst solo

That’s pain

[forest hound]

I wonder why

Pain is part of this game and I will not change my mind

[light totem]

If only it provided any

Ree. Pull a R3C1 Just reseed E1 with layers. Ez. Then some experienced players will be happy

[forest hound]

I have ran out of pain from this game since b1 extreme. I don't care if it's easy I had a bad time

[twilit remnant]

It's the choke mod a dp12 but there's a flash light jammed in one barrel

[light totem]

Ye. The DP and choke mod are very similar

[humble sapphire]

Can confirm mine strat did not work on c1

big sad

[devout river]

Ye you need a lot and they need to be placed in good spots

I think you are talking about the big guy

[pliant shard]

you need 8 mine all in the same spot. he has to run in a straight line to them

[forest hound]

Yup it does work

I usually just place 5 mines then cfoam grenade then rapid fire his tumours with a pistol

But I can confirm 10 mines definetly works infact use 40 for safety 😉

[devout river]

Nice got B2 PE done

Fun

We had bad resource management though

Had to kite the whole Class VI alarm cause of no ammo

[forest hound]

There is class 11 alarms in b2 O.O

[atomic escarp]

Its 6

VI

[forest hound]

Right

I was like what

[devout river]

Oh crap

You know what I meant

[atomic escarp]

No biggie

[devout river]

I know roman numerals I swear

[atomic escarp]

but fuck we did well tho

[devout river]

Not bad

[atomic escarp]

Good on ya

[forest hound]

Congrats guys

[devout river]

Definitely not the smoothest run

But could have been worse

[forest hound]

I've learned it can always be worse

[atomic escarp]

alot of scouts were activated thats for sure

[devout river]

Also I saw people say that there were mothers in B2? We did not see any

[atomic escarp]

Mothers?

the fuck

no way no how

we went through nearly every room

bar zone 295

[forest hound]

Maybe they got b1 and b2 mixed up somehow

[atomic escarp]

probs

[forest hound]

People seem to get into a blur with this game. They be internally panicking

[atomic escarp]

only internal panic I get is when I see a fucking crawler munch on my legs

but thats mostly anger and and not panic

[forest hound]

When 3 crawlers sneak behind you and team during a scan and you are the only one who notices

[atomic escarp]

too fucking true

[forest hound]

Then you shoot your teamates in a panic

Go oh shit then everything goes fine anyway

[full geyser]

wtf is a crawler

[forest hound]

Just a striker that crawls they are hard to notice

[nocturne flax]

Headless ones are borderline invisible when adsing

[forest hound]

Hear me out crawling shadows. Can't see em at all

[nocturne flax]

They probably have those but perhaps they remove that

[forest hound]

I wouldn't know can't see shadows very well

[nocturne flax]

shadows are just regular sleepers anyways so i see them having crawler shadows

but remove them for gameplay reason

you cannot see them already, having crawling ones would be too much

also maybe the shadow doesnt cast correctly so it would be too difficult

[forest hound]

I believe they removed big shadows. I think they probably moved like a normal striker and hit like a big striker

Heard they were fast so that is probably what it was I haven't checked too much tho.

[nocturne flax]

giant shadows were on e1

i fucking hate them

i would love to see them again nostalgia wise

[forest hound]

i know this is spoiler chat but imagine ||shadow big chargers||

[nocturne flax]

eeehh

boring

[devout river]

Shadow Tank

[nocturne flax]

if we just gonna shadow everything

[forest hound]

Shadow tank still dies to mines

[nocturne flax]

might as well do it next rundown

to get it out of the system

[forest hound]

See if players can pull it off maybe

[nocturne flax]

shadow giant chargers would be a little stupid tbh, just put them in a pitch black room

[forest hound]

I wish there was a better area to fight a tank. I have to resort to using mines because it can wipe you so easily in c1

[nocturne flax]

and theyre basically shadows

[forest hound]

Giant chargers are always in a pitch black room in my experience

[nocturne flax]

The area in wich he spawns its a good place to fight as long as theres someone out there defending the incoming waves

[forest hound]

Does he spawn in any other levels?

[pliant shard]

Giant chargers or Papi chulo

[nocturne flax]

papichulo its everything

[forest hound]

When you hear the sound of chargers punching at the other side of the map

[nocturne flax]

Does he spawn in any other levels?
@forest hound c1 and d2

[forest hound]

at the end im guessing probably with a mother I wouldn't be surprised

[nocturne flax]

play and see

[forest hound]

Yup

Planning on it. Just gotta get through the class 6 cluster and wipe time

[pliant shard]

The second class 6 is by far the hardest scan

The last scan isn’t even a challenge if they spawn in the side rooms first. Slap a couple mines and bam no enemies until the last scan

[forest hound]

It can't be worse than a surge anyway. Perfect team coordination makes scans quick no matter what except surge

[nocturne flax]

👀

[feral token]

pft just play solo if you dont like surges
/s

[forest hound]

I am probably gonna practice solo surge then clean the enemies then invite players

Not a lot online on how to do stuff later in game I've noticed so it's fun to experiment

[zinc wyvern]

any tips for surges in general?

[forest hound]

I could do with some real tips too

[zinc wyvern]

we just wiped at second surge door in c2, probably due to the lack of preparation

[obtuse surge]

run as a group if you can't hold

[pliant shard]

MGs and full auto weapons are good for holding the scan especially since it spawns a max amount of enemies right away. Don’t force the scans if they are in a bad spot (ex: scan going towards enemies and you will be surrounded, enemies on you and the scan is taking a long time to go to the next) If you can’t hold run as a group as Wes said

[light totem]

Ye

Autopistol especially

[nocturne flax]

oh no the pizza thief

[forest hound]

In regards to game suggestions I am glad that my speed syringe idea wasn't removed

[queen storm]

Used to reload guns in front of 30 enemies

[light totem]

Hm

Hm

Yeah

[pliant shard]

But have you tried speed running it

Then you will feel the pain of the second cluster 6

[light totem]

Hmm

[weak anvil]

Are there any scouts in R4A1?

I've done it before but can't recall

[light totem]

You don’t really need to leave the room for second cluster

[rich estuary]

yeah there are scouts in R4A1

I usually see them in the extreme sector

[devout river]

Ye in the A tier scouts are only in layered

Which I feel like there should be at least one in the normal tiers

[lavish cloak]

You can sometimes get one to spawn in the room with the case in A2. Zone 45 or 46 I think

[rich estuary]

I've seen scouts in the beginning area of A2

[devout river]

Well I think they are rare

[queen nymph]

Yeah it’s RNG 👀

[forest hound]

I have never seen any scout unless I am doing Extreme or Overload on a tier anyway

[devout river]

I think there should be a guaranteed scout spawn on A2

[forest hound]

Rarely get a large sleeping striker though on a1

[devout river]

Nice to introduce people to them before some of the later levels that have a decent amount of them

[rich estuary]

R1A1 wants to talk with you

[light totem]

R2A1 was perfect for newbies

And R1A1

[forest hound]

I noticed the win ratio for e1 is very low

Kinda curious of the win ratio with MM being implemented now

[light totem]

Hah. It was also out for less than a month iirc

[forest hound]

Wait so it was a quick rundown o.o with one of the hardest levels too ?

[light totem]

Not really. R2 itself was longer. D2 and E1 didn’t release till later on in the rundown

[forest hound]

Oh was that part of the progression unlocks then?

[devout river]

Ye that was part of warden restriction

I thought we were gonna get warden restriction this rundown tbh

[light totem]

Oof

[devout river]

Cause D0c had a pfp showing it

[forest hound]

Would be exciting though

[light totem]

If only we had an E tier this rundown

[forest hound]

E2 PE imagine. Surge alarms that only spawn shadows and big chargers I bet

[light totem]

Eh. Wouldn’t be that bad

[forest hound]

Eh... I'll pass

[devout river]

A surge alarm where every enemy is a mother

No half and half mothers and tanks

[forest hound]

Nah just scouts

[devout river]

Yes

Nah a full scout surge alarm would not be that bad

Just kiting mostly

[light totem]

Shadow hybrids

Tbh. I’m fine with it

Basically just was E1

[forest hound]

That is just c2 but even more bs

[devout river]

I want an error alarm that spawns tanks

[forest hound]

That wouldn't be bad

Tanks are slow

[devout river]

They should add an error alarm that spawns the like more boss-like enemies

[light totem]

^

[forest hound]

They appear outta nowhere I swear

Gone for like 20 seconds then all of a sudden right in front of you

He's intimidating more than anything

[light totem]

Ye. I heard

From him

[forest hound]

First time I came across him. I was carrying the data sphere and was in a duo. I panicked in his room and took fall damage near door scan and died

[light totem]

I saw the clip. And tbh not surprising

Probably getting multihits in there like the mother

Oof

[devout river]

I died to it earlier in B2 Overload

If we would have lost and I died to fall damage I would have been sad

[light totem]

Tbh. I do t think I’ve died to fall damage yet

[forest hound]

We lost because i took fall damage

[light totem]

Ik I’ve taken a lot of damage to it tho

[forest hound]

In c1

[rich estuary]

enemies spawning in scout rooms, setting them off is the most frustrating thing ever

[light totem]

Nah. It’s fun

[rich estuary]

sometimes it happens instantly and you have no control over it, the game just says fuck you

it's not fun, you're crazy

[light totem]

Yep

I am crazy

[forest hound]

I just camp by doors with scout till they are close then open close door then ez kill

[light totem]

It even more fun during E1

[rich estuary]

overload doors in A2 where the enemies spawn in the back triggering several rooms is awful

[light totem]

Hmm. I think it insta aggro on my run

On my duo it for sure did

But It’s not hard either and clears the zone

[forest hound]

Did A2 pe first try Luck was on my side

[devout river]

I got lucky I guess

[light totem]

and the other two on the team were deadweights

[devout river]

Got it done on first try

[light totem]

And I had work that I was getting ready for

Not a bad solo level tho

Pretty fun

[forest hound]

One of the guys on my team was losing power due to a hurricane lol

[light totem]

F

[forest hound]

After overload during the extreme scan. I learnt that hammer is friend more than anything that run

[light totem]

Ye

Hot

It’s such a good gun, autopistol

[forest hound]

Hard to miss up close and you can't run out of ammo for hammer

[light totem]

BC is just impractical if not used for giants

It’s damage output is insane tho

Yes. It suffers from heavy overkill

[forest hound]

You can get 5 kills with 5 shots of BC with practice most I got was 3

But I only used it a few times

[light totem]

It’s impractical for wave use

But a very statistically good gun

[forest hound]

Nah it has uses in certain strats like funneling the enemy during wave

[light totem]

It is

[rich estuary]

burst cannon only good for taking down titans or hybrids

[light totem]

But practical usage the worst gun

The lowest of all KE guns

[nocturne flax]

Burst cannon its bae this rundown

the capabilities with it now its just

ugh

so good

[forest hound]

I gotta try something that isn't pistol and revolver

[rich estuary]

heavy assault rifle and sniper rifle

[forest hound]

No

[light totem]

Sniper bad

[forest hound]

Heavy is good tho

[light totem]

Also. HXC is good ye

[forest hound]

Machine gun is a pain to use. If it had an extra 100 ammo it would be op tho

[light totem]

[rich estuary]

machine gun is easy to use tho

[light totem]

No. It’s not very beginning friendly

I remember hating it in early R2

[rich estuary]

I didn't say anything about beginners

[light totem]

It’s easy to use. Once you figure out the basics of the gun

[forest hound]

Not enough talk of smg

[nocturne flax]

smg still same ol same ol

if you can aim smg and carabine its good

[forest hound]

Carbine isn't fun for me to use honestly

[light totem]

Carbine is also one of the best guns

Was the best in R3

[rich estuary]

no, carbine and smg are doodoo

[light totem]

[forest hound]

Smg good carbine bad

[light totem]

You wish

[rich estuary]

carbine is just smg with burst

[light totem]

They are almost identical in KE

[forest hound]

Gun doesn't kill for me 0/10

[light totem]

In DE carbine outranks smg by 20%

Carbine does take more skill to use

[rich estuary]

how, it's the same gun with burst

[light totem]

But it’s also used more as a precision gun

[pseudo pumice]

imagine using stats and not just what weapon feels good

i cry

[light totem]

Chase

[rich estuary]

^ this

[light totem]

I main riotgun

So shut

[forest hound]

Doesn't like BC but likes carbine ?

[light totem]

Yeah. A forced charge and a burst is a no go

BC isnt a real burst gun

[rich estuary]

but it burst shoots

literally in the name

burst

cannon

[light totem]

[rich estuary]

it's using quantum mechanics to time travel the bullets back in time to line them up in a burst sequence, but it's not a burst gun

is that your logic?

[light totem]

Shush

[forest hound]

Anyone ever get a 6 charge resource btw

[light totem]

My main issue with BC is its very stupidly long charge up

And yes

[forest hound]

Such luck is wonderful

[light totem]

It’s bout double that of MG

[rich estuary]

it's not even one second to charge it up though

[light totem]

And?

[forest hound]

That's longer than 0 seconds 🤔

[light totem]

Ye

This is tru

[rich estuary]

the gun has insane damage, the trade off is you have to charge it

[light totem]

Ok. So

You have a long charge. and a burst. That’s why I hate it

Pick one

That being said I now main Choke mod

[forest hound]

Oh no

[light totem]

Cause fuck charge time

And it alt f4s everything

[rich estuary]

that ammo tho

[pliant shard]

Did someone say burst cannon?

[light totem]

I don’t mind the low ammo

[forest hound]

Tbh it's really good for holding out against waves of enemies

[pliant shard]

It’s basically the best special in r4

[forest hound]

If you just use it at the right times

[rich estuary]

burst cannon is only good against the big enemies

[forest hound]

The choke I mean

[light totem]

Hm

I use it as an anti special enemy gun

[pliant shard]

Nothing gives me satisfaction like enemies breaking down a door only to be met by my burst cannon

[light totem]

That’s it’s purpose

[pliant shard]

Getting 5 kill markers

20 kill potential per mag

[rich estuary]

I feel the combat shotgun is good against a hoard of regular sleepers

same with the machinegun

[forest hound]

The heck happened to shotgun though can't hit shit with it

[pliant shard]

Reduced effective range

[rich estuary]

that ^

[forest hound]

Horribly reduced

[pliant shard]

That slower rate of fire got me

[forest hound]

This ain't MW2

[nocturne flax]

regular pump its fine

combat on the other hand

[forest hound]

Combat is good

[nocturne flax]

nah homie

[forest hound]

[pliant shard]

The transition from r3 CS to r4 hit me hard

[nocturne flax]

cant kill shit past a warden door lenghts

[pliant shard]

My one shot headshot CS kills

[forest hound]

Did combat get nerfed too. When I used it at the start of this rundown it seemed fine

[pliant shard]

Yeah increased spread and reduced effective range

[nocturne flax]

dont read patch notes dont you

[forest hound]

I did but I haven't tried combat since

[pliant shard]

Devs could write “sleepers now have a dumptruck ass” and half the people wouldn’t notice

[forest hound]

Can't help but notice when behind giant

[pliant shard]

But the shottys got hit with nerfs

[rich estuary]

there's several shotguns to choose from

[nocturne flax]

Devs could write “sleepers now have a dumptruck ass” and half the people wouldn’t notice
@pliant shard woudlnt mind that

make them dummy thicc

there's several shotguns to choose from
@rich estuary shotgun but good (pump)
shotgun with ammo
shotgun sniper

just need shotgun sentry back and we set

[undone anvil]

anyone know how the gimic of b2 works? is it time based or just when we put in 2 power cells

[light totem]

cells

[undone anvil]

that seems dumb lol

[light totem]

except each one, not two

[undone anvil]

why not jsut stock pile them and just wait till we have all

[light totem]

each one will lower the fog

[undone anvil]

when i played it last night it just seemed as soon as we put in the second cell we lost all vision

and the first cell didnt do shit lol

[devout river]

Some zones start with fog and others dont

You gotta put the cells in at certain times

To avoid a lot of fog

[undone anvil]

gotcha

[devout river]

Its kinda hard to explain

[undone anvil]

is the one in 89 the one that fogs up the generator area?

[devout river]

Basically whenever you put a cell in the fog on the ceiling lowers a little bit

Use that to your advantage

Ok that is it bye now

[undone anvil]

i dont see why you cant just put them all in a corner and wait till you have all 4 to put them in

[devout river]

You can but that is actually a harder way to do it

Ok bye now

[fleet halo]

So can anyone tell me why this rundown is called "Contact"?

[forest hound]

Because... I am gonna see if the lore channel has anything

Cause I got no clue

Apparently something to do with morse code and the morse code saying hello

SO making contact with other sentient beings?

[fleet halo]

Ah ok

[forest hound]

I am probably completely wrong

So don't take my word for it I hardly even researched at all

[fleet halo]

Ok

[forest hound]

It could at a push refer to mm being put in the game 🤔 Making contact with other players

But that doesn't sound like lore at all

[light totem]

i have lore for u

[nocturne flax]

it could refer to you meeting the father and "contacting" it
@atomic escarp Well considering r3 was name the vessel since mother its the vessel of babies??

damn, we got part 2

The vessel part 2 electric boogaloo: bullpup edition

[light totem]

ew

bullpup

[nocturne flax]

ew carabine

👀

[light totem]

you wish

[frail elbow]

Only true gentlemen use pistol

[tribal cosmos]

guys can mine kill potato?

the boss thing

people told me it works but it just wounldn't work for me

even we stacked like 5 mines

[light totem]

it shouldnt statistically

[tribal cosmos]

we putted on the top of the doir

so the best way to kill it is just having a team of two and attack him from the back?

[devout river]

Apparently it takes like 8 mines in a specific position to kill big guy

Well the one on C1

[light totem]

they are the same

at least should be

[tribal cosmos]

yea im talking about the one in d2

2 hours of work gone

cuz the mine didn't work

i guess next time we should just sneak to the back and shoot him

[obtuse surge]

the mines don't seem to work for D2

no clue why

it does consistently work for C1

[harsh pelican]

might be the shape of the door

it’s also big enough that if you place them on top of the door they can’t be picked back up, and can have the laser blocked

[light totem]

which door @obtuse surge particular or certain ones?

[obtuse surge]

the apex door

[light totem]

ok, ill look at it too

vertical down mines for Frank Sr. i assume you mean?

[obtuse surge]

yeh

[light totem]

ok, ill take a look, may be a bug

do you have video

[obtuse surge]

i recorded but you can't really see shit because i was standing behind pillar

[light totem]

fuck, ok

ill try it in a sec

[harsh pelican]

oh yeah he also has to walk straight down the middle of the beam, may not detonate properly otherwise

which means standing in front of him and probably tanking 16% damage or more

[harsh pelican]

don't you need 5 for the insta-kill?

[hexed vapor]

Should need at least 7.

[raw bane]

what do yall think about burst cannon vs sniper or chokemod shotgun

personally finding it more a more versatile version of the sniper, not sure why i dont see more people running it

[tribal cosmos]

burst cannon is better against a cluster of enemy

sniper only big guy

chocked shotgun has no ammo

[pseudo pumice]

i love burst cannon because it works for many scenarios

[tribal cosmos]

na on paper the best weapon is combat shotgun

a lot of ammo and high dmg

but in practice

i'd say something like shotgun or machinegun

old fashioned weapons

[pseudo pumice]

#gtfo-chat message

[raw bane]

@pseudo pumice thanks ^^

[forest hound]

When doing D2 extreme what does it mean by emergency exit

Do we just get to the end of the level or is there somewhere else to go

Also it says emergancy instead of emergency

Ok thanks

OH BLOODY HELL INFECTIOUS FOG

[lyric narwhal]

XD

[rich estuary]

it's great when your team already has 90% infection in B1 after passing through the first door

[forest hound]

Man fuck this level

[frigid osprey]

does b2 have alot of alarm doors?

[raw bane]

@frigid osprey havent finished b2 yet, but can say there are at least 2 (and probably more)

[rich estuary]

B2 is with the engine and the 4 cells right?

there's like 3 or 4 alarms in the high sector

[raw bane]

yea that level, and oh dear...

[forest hound]

B2 isn't that bad unless you are going extreme or god forbid overload whatever the hell that is

Hey guys here's a cluster generator to fix fog. AH GET PRANKED

That's d2 for ya

[raw bane]

friends and i have been trying to do PE on B2, hence why we've never made it to the high sector

[rich estuary]

B2 isn't bad, just don't put the cells into the generator until the end

you'll have to go through one zone of fog at worst

[forest hound]

I think it'll be more exhausting than anything

[raw bane]

yea just had some bad luck with the overload alarm spawns triggering scouts and such

[fickle coyote]

Whats the best way to kill the big guy in c1?

[light totem]

mines and coordinated fire

also hammer

[forest hound]

Mines from about to be precise

Otherwise it does nothing

[hexed vapor]

It's been like a week, where tf are Warden stats?

[rich estuary]

we have to do some datamining to unlock them

:^)

in game datamining that is, secretly they must be in some logs

||that'd be a cooler way to release them||

[hexed vapor]

Would be neat, but might be weird lore-wise.

Kinda curious as to R3D1 completions due to people farming the shit out of it.

[rich estuary]

R4 stats are gonna be a mess to read

[hexed vapor]

Would still be possible to calculate completions for expeditions w/ an Overload:
Main Only = [Main] - ([Extreme Only] + [Overload Only] + [PE])
Extreme Only = [Extreme] - [PE]
Overload Only = [Overload] - [PE]

Tbh, I'm probably going to try for all of the "only" categories at some point.

That way there will be at least one overload only on B2 in the stats.

[rich estuary]

do you have to do high always or can you leave after clearing extreme/overload? I've never tried

[hexed vapor]

Main objective must always be completed.

[rich estuary]

rip

[hexed vapor]

Otherwise it's literally impossible to extract.

Although I haven't tried skipping main objective when there are carry items.

I would assume on C2 if you don't have all GLPs extraction isn't there, but maybe it is?

Even so, it would probably be a bug and still give you main objective without actually doing it.

[atomic escarp]

https://clips.twitch.tv/OutstandingSuaveSlothWholeWheat

in case people didn't want to have b1 spoiled for extreme

[light totem]

@atomic escarp I hate you. I’m literally about to start running BC just for the anti giant. Not like I shoot waves unless I’m staggering anyways

[boreal tendon]

you can just leave her be tho

[light totem]

Hm

Doubt

Honestly tho. It’s just there is no good anti giant weapon

[nocturne magnet]

the new slug shotgun ?

[light totem]

Not slug*

Also it’s decent. But not meant for giants

[rich estuary]

burst cannon takes them down like nothing

most of the special weapons when aiming at the back, especially the back of the head, take them down pretty quick

sitting back with the sniper to pop them in the head from a distance is really satisfying

or stunlocking them with a hammer, running around and shooting them in the back with a shotgun

[hexed vapor]

It's really good for giants, though?

[rich estuary]

the chokemod? yeah it's great for that too

[light totem]

I mean. No better than pump. Except it’s not

Similar tho

[hexed vapor]

Beats giving up versatility on BC or Sniper imo, never found the efficiency increase to be worthwhile for what's honestly an edge case.

[light totem]

Honestly same

But I don’t really use guns for waves regardless

So might as well bring a designated anti giant gun

[rich estuary]

so, burst cannon

[light totem]

Basically

Sadly

[delicate chasm]

Tbh who uses weapons anymore

[light totem]

Normies

[delicate chasm]

Mallet is where its all at

[light totem]

Gavel and mallet is where its all at
@delicate chasm yes I agree

[delicate chasm]

Yes but Mallet a bit more

@light totem

[light totem]

No

Equal

Same melee species

[delicate chasm]

I'll make an exception just this once but it's still a glittered turd

[light totem]

[delicate chasm]

[hexed vapor]

Well, D1 seems kind of easy.

How the fuck did that get past bughunters?

[light totem]

🤷‍♂️

Didn’t play it personally

[delicate chasm]

They don't determine the difficulty if I could I'd make it R2D1 bullshit again

[light totem]

If I could decide difficulty

I’d make F tier

[hexed vapor]

Seems kind of weird if they'd get feedback that D1 is incredibly easy and nothing would change.

It's D tier ffs

[pseudo pumice]

you'd also get rid of speed bug

interesting

[light totem]

Well ye

Imagine speed bug. When you have another bug

That I can’t talk about here👀

[pseudo pumice]

pls no

[light totem]

Exactly

[delicate chasm]

[pseudo pumice]

n e ways

[rich estuary]

both the d levels are easy

[light totem]

Yeah

Now layer them

[rich estuary]

implying those are difficult too

D1 at worst has ||two birthers|| and that's it

and D2 has ||shadow scouts|| 🤷‍♂️

[light totem]

Or the extreme objective

It’s fun tho

Tho then again. I wouldn’t call it hard

[pseudo pumice]

r2 was

mmm

[light totem]

^

[delicate chasm]

E1 best map

[light totem]

Second best

That’s hard for me to say

[delicate chasm]

Hmmm what's your best

[light totem]

You know

[pseudo pumice]

r2c2 :D

[light totem]

No

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Yeah in that case E1 would be my second

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Def not

Yep

Colour gets it

And I adore E1. So yeah. It’s hard to say second

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Best part about E1 its the most balanced map

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It was perfectly balanced. If you played it solo