why mauling a charger to death is so hard
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
desert shell
dark bane
@lyric narwhal @atomic escarp not sure about R2 but for R1A1 it was definitely after you finished the scan i knew this because I distinctly remember pulling the HSU scan so everyone could see where it was and the alarm wouldnt start until after the scan was finished so it would just be a nice light jog through a single wave of enemies to get to spawn.
jeez im not even used to saying R1A1 cuz back then it was just called A1 since there was only one rundown kek
Too bad I suck and didnt finish R2 or R3 lmao
atomic escarp
Ah don’t get too caught up on it you didn’t miss much
native quarry
PFFFT SAME I never made it past R3B2
atomic escarp
But seeing that I’m very interested in what level that HSU is my mind is a bit fuzzy on R2 objectives
dark bane
I think i rage quit at r2C2 or C1 and for R3 i just never managed to beat d1
dark bane
R2 i think there was that one HSU in one of the B levels
I remember there was this one big room in the middle that was connected to like 4 zones or something
and you had to go get a key from one of the zones in the middle and then come back and go into another zone for the HSU i believe
atomic escarp
There were 4B on R2 levels the first one was sacrifice 2 was power corrupts 3 I’ve lost the name of and the 4 was septic
devout river
3 was pathfinder I think
dark bane
Kinda wish we could play R1 again, just for a bit of relaxing fun ig
cuz ik R1A1 was kinda like a meme of a level but it was fun to fk around in it
or even a thing like where they have to go back into R1 which has been corrupted/infected or wte w/ the same simpler/easier map design from R1 but extra spoopy monsters etc.
lyric narwhal
i dont think there was a hsu in rundown 2 like r1a1 or r3c1
atomic escarp
So, is there a legitimate unique boss in D2
lyric narwhal
nope ._.
not as far as i know
havent really done the other layers
but im assuming no
atomic escarp
Where do the tanks show up
lyric narwhal
c1 and d2
idk if there in c2 or d1
again i havent really been doing the layers for those
still trynna do b2 overload
atomic escarp
Fair enough
Kinda upset to hear there wasn’t a boss in D2 as the log for the mission would imply
lyric narwhal
fighting that tank is still fun tho
espicially when you can actually focus on him and learn what to do against him
atomic escarp
Is it just a tank, or do they change up the model a bit like with the boss mother in R3
lyric narwhal
sucks that we actually have an environment to test shit against him at the very end
yeah its just a tank
atomic escarp
Oof. Thanks for the info my dude
quiet stone
Can you C foam fat guy in c1?
lyric narwhal
yes but it takes 3 full charges
lyric narwhal
or 60% c-foam launcher
lyric narwhal
you could easily conserve that if you want to c-foam it
lyric narwhal
yeah not on extreme
quiet stone
exactly
lyric narwhal
youd have to be lucky
hexed vapor
Very doable but holy shit the ammo expenditure.
lyric narwhal
yeah you probably wouldnt get past the tank at that point either
desert shell
I just discovered that you can foam the tank in C1
devout river
Ye I just died on the tank
Beat B2 but big boy got us at end of C1
What is the best way to kill that guy anyway
hexed vapor
Best way to fight him is to split into two teams so that his back is showing to someone.
quiet stone
you can sneak behind him
light him up when team is ready, standing outside the room, he'll agro on you since you're behind and then his back will be facing the team
obtuse surge
or just 7-8 mines
quiet stone
that's the scaredy cat way
quiet stone
Because GTFO is meant to be a challenge
quiet stone
already done that
obtuse surge
the game being meant to be a challenge doesn't rly mean you throw strategy out the window and intentionally play dumb to make it harder
quiet stone
eh? Well when I've already done C1 enough times I'm gonna experiment
devout river
We could not stealth it because someone opened the door when we were killing enemies from the class 3 alarm/endless alarm
atomic escarp
So just found out the main objective for B2 isn’t a full fledged alarm as well
So if people are doing extreme and overload they could go ahead and put all 4 cells in and not have to work in fog
Though I’m not to sure if it rises up like in R2D1 and R3A2
quiet stone
eh what
if you put all the cells in before you do the overload
it fucks you
all the fog get lowered to the point where its in the overload rooms
DON'T put in the cells, save them till you do everything.
atomic escarp
Ah fair nough
devout river
So would you do all the side objectives then get the cells
Or get all the cells then do the side objective
Without putting them in
twilit remnant
Why?
devout river
Just getting them
So you dont have to get them during an error alarm
I mean its probably not a bad error alarm its only a B level
But still
twilit remnant
No I'm taking about the all cells in
quiet stone
everytime you put in a cell it lowers the fog
the fog is on the CEILING
the overload area is ground level
if you put in all cells the fog goes to ground level
and you can't see shit
hexed vapor
Actually, has anyone actually checked that the gen cluster doesn't have a cap?
twilit remnant
Oh
dreamy bramble
does picking up all the glps in c2 trigger an alarm or no?
calm vessel
Gather missions don’t have an alarm
calm vessel
Only one that did was r2 c2 but that’s because it was error
dreamy bramble
just wanted to be sure cause we left one of the glps near spawn just in case
grab the cursed ball
queen nymph
Gonna be a hell of a mission if picking up all glp triggers an alarm in c2 😂
dreamy bramble
which triggers a shadow alarm
and one of our teammates grabbed the ball when we were figuring out where it was
so we kinda just died there
nocturne flax
also extractions lmao
everything triggers an alarm in this goofy ass game
mission objective: go to bathroom
x class alarm
queen nymph
I think all the collectable item doesn’t trigger alarms at the moment. Only items that require to be transferred will trigger an alarm if I am correct
Nvm, just remembered that picking up IDs spawn giant in R2C2 zzzz
twilit remnant
Did the error alarm get a new sound
light totem
Class 30 when
zealous elm
Hello! I want to be spoiled 😛 How's the new enemy? In which level does he appears? Me and the boys didn't see the mother in the previous rundown :(
I am anxious, please help (?)
Thank you!
lucid moon
In fact, in R4 3 new enemies
zealous elm
Wow 3? We are currently stuck in Tier B. Yesterday we advanced in Malachite but the alarm on the last door catch us by surprise, we didn't expect it.
rich estuary
is the invisible scout a joke because I haven't seen it yet and I've been through D tier
oof
twilit remnant
Shadow scouts are hot
zealous elm
I see. One last question please, in order to progress to C1... Do you have to complete an extreme challenge in A or B to unlock it?
agile thorn
y
rich estuary
depends on the team and use case
zealous elm
Oh boy, we are doomed xD. We tried the extreme in A1 and we got punished so hard. But we were only three on the team.
rich estuary
if you're supporting a team and have good aim, a revolver is good. Machine gun is better in general though
zealous elm
Thanks!
light totem
Revolver is very kill efficient if you can land headshots
obtuse surge
Does the A2 extreme HSU actually start an alarm or is it just 1 big wave
hard gate
I pop off with the revolver like nobody's business.
I swear I got two kills with a single bullet once, but with how hectic it was it's possible a teammate killed the second one at the same time.
lavish cloak
I think it's just a wave, but we started the extraction wave pretty quick after so I can't say for sure
tribal fossil
But revolver bullet deals more damage than MG?
west crow
Yes
Sort of
Revolver has higher single burst while I'm pretty sure machine gun has a slightly higher sustain dps
nocturne flax
Comparing revolver to machine gun??
west crow
Don't skip the biotracker!!!
Please make it a series black dragon
How can I know what to and not to skip!!
light totem
split knoll
I believe HSU scan starts an alarm that is disabled once the scan is done, so typically just one wave, but make sure the get the scan done quick. This is more or less an assumption, but I think it says to complete the scan to turn off the alarm or something.
light totem
Idk about the prompt. But ye it is
full geyser
hello
is there away for me to matchmake with my friends?
like we only need 2 more
but i cant seem to host a lobby then matchmake
full geyser
ah ok ok
mossy yoke
@split knoll we don't recommend that method you described as we've seen issues from that
split knoll
Got it, thanks, I saw one of you (devs) post it on Reddit but with a note that you hadn't tried. Good to know it's wonky.
LFG channels then, just use the discord, it's pretty great.
full geyser
also i just noticed someone placed a nickname on me lol
light totem
Hm
green ledge
sleepers spawning in uncleared rooms during permanent alarms is some A grade bullshit, especially if scouts are in the area, it feels like a costant dice roll whether the game decides to give you the finger, and there isn't much you can do to prevent or play around it.
zinc wyvern
wasn't it always like this though?
green ledge
doesn't make it any less dumb, nobody liked the last bit in E1 for a reason.
zinc wyvern
in that case since it's happening since that it's not a bug but a feature
green ledge
a dumb feature, yes.
zinc wyvern
¯_(ツ)_/¯
green ledge
it is but in each situation there are a few things you can do to play around it,a sleeper alerting a scout when you didn't even step inside the room, has no counterplay at all.
zinc wyvern
agreed, but still, you just live with it
most scout alerts are recoverable pretty easily
west crow
How was the pistol unintentionally nerfed ☹️
green ledge
bad mechanics should be weeded out of the game, if they serve no purpose aside from randomly punishing the player without any input on his side they probably belong in the bin.
zinc wyvern
make a suggestion then
twilit remnant
Reduced damahe
west crow
Are you talking about the pistol?
Also how on earth does the pistol have a high ammo capacity with 90 shots 😡
hard gate
That isn't considered high?
west crow
That's almost the same as the dmr with a described low ammo capacity
hard gate
Different guns are going to have different levels for what's considered low/normal/high.
I'd consider six RPGs a lot of RPGs, but six shotgun shells isn't a lot.
twilit remnant
For ex
Pump has like 8+17 and it's low
Sniper has 3+ 6? And is considered low
hard gate
I'd imagine the game takes in total clip count when determining those levels.
What does DMR and pistol come with?
hard gate
Suppose I could check rq
Oh, DMR says "limited" not "low".
The only one that actually says low is the shotgun.
twilit remnant
Sniper is considered low too
hard gate
Pistol is 15+85
lavish cloak
Is the DMR any good right now? I know last rundown it wasn't a 1 hit on a striker when you headshot. Is it now?
west crow
No, just a higher fire rate
hard gate
DMR is 12+42
Sniper is 3+3
lavish cloak
That's a shame, I like using it, it just doesn't feel good for the headshot to leave it with enough hp that a stiff breeze will finish it off
twilit remnant
oh god I forgot
obtuse surge
@west crow headshot damage was increased in an attempt to buff the pistol, but the increased damage caused the head to explode too early which turned it into a nerf instead. (you get forced to spam bodyshots to finish them off, which do so much less damage)
lavish cloak
@obtuse surge Is that headshot damage increase with regards to every weapon, or just the pistol?
obtuse surge
it wasn't a global thing
it's weapon specific
bunch of weapons were changed this rundown
lilac cloak
How do you deal with D1 room with many scouts? Send one to find terminal or go loud?
obtuse surge
a global thing however is that the head exploding now actually removes the head hitbox
which provides an additional nerf for tons of weapons
they honestly shouldn't have nerfed any weapons and see how it would play out without the head hitbox first
the double nerf is very fucked
lavish cloak
Yeah, the head exploding and not removing the hitbox seems like a big they really wanted to fix, but the unforseen repercussions weren't factored in
obtuse surge
How do you deal with D1 room with many scouts? Send one to find terminal or go loud?
I mean if you're confident enough you can just clear that entire room with stealth.
As for going loud, it does seem like there's a lot of spare ammo if you've been getting ammo efficient kills, so I guess that could work?
turbid cliff
should hire us for weapon balance 
obtuse surge
You can also attempt stealth and then still go loud if it goes wrong
obtuse surge
From what I remember in R2D2, scout waves seem to cap at one point
Like when you'd alert 5, you'd only get 3 waves
So if you do go loud, be ready for at least 3 scout waves and a bunch of chargers/sleepers from in that room
crisp vapor
are 6 scouts in a room normal?
forest hound
i got that in c2
crisp vapor
same
forest hound
NICE
forest hound
All I am gonna say is the devs are sadists
rich estuary
mfw avoided that route entirely because the other zones had enough gamer fuel
ended with a 1 hour completion on c2, was nice
abstract gulch
void bronze
Shadow giant mother
light totem
Shadow spitter
mellow creek
@lilac cloak stealth for the terminals, 2 on the left 1 on the right
the final verifications stops the spawns so u have around7 mins to slowly stealth for it
rich estuary
no lmao
you would just have one person kite it around while others do stuff
sounds boring
rich estuary
ah yes, surge alarms, aka the kite alarms
rich estuary
well with surge alarms you do a team kite
light totem
eh
depends
in E1 yeah, usually cause of poor spawns in that first zone and error
but in R4 no reason to
rich estuary
it's like you hate the players
pseudo pumice
rich estuary
okay guys, lets have 100 enemies spawn and you have to do a 50 cluster scan 10 times with no resources or tools. If you leave the room everyone gets blown up. Good idea, yeah?
pseudo pumice
i’m waiting for a cluster surge 😀👍
pseudo pumice
oddly specific
rich estuary
considering each one can do like 10 damage, that's a lot
light totem
not really
12 damage* and each player should be able to deal with at least 4-5 without any issues
obtuse surge
that C2 multi scout zone is scouts only
if you have a singular person in your team that's capable of hammering scouts consistently, it won't be an issue at all
having no other enemies that require you to pay attention to, make it a lot easier
daring helm
anyone do B1 yet?
is the wind turbine supposed to start off all the way in area I or L?
hazy patio
thanks for the clarification. just one more question - @latent pilot what's the difference in difficulty, or different between the main zone and the other ones, like between High, Extreme and Overload
latent pilot
it can be from any other thing , some makes endlesswaves , some are hard scans , or some are finding things on zone
every higher difficulty will make the rundown harder depending the group
atomic escarp
Endless waves = fun
rich estuary
if by fun you mean having one or two people sit at a door hammering stuff as they spawn then sure
hazy patio
so how do you complete the objectives? the parts where they "count"? will it show up as the main mission or something? that's the part i don't understand.
atomic escarp
Once you scan for either extreme or overload the top left side updates and replaces the main objective till you complete them
split knoll
You can also hit O on your keyboard to see the currently selected objectives, which you select at the bulkhead scans.
tame sorrel
||for C1, after you place the data sphere in the nframe. is there a infinite alarm?||
rich estuary
yes
obtuse surge
shoot the sacks on the back
it usually chases one person
so the rest can try and get behind him
you can also, if you have enough tool left, just stack mines on the ceiling at that door
shoot him and let him walk through them
7 mines should kill
spring nest
nice
toxic grove
Anyone know if the choke mod shotgun can one hit a scout
atomic escarp
It can if you aim for the head
light totem
yup
toxic grove
danke
atomic escarp
can anything one shot a big boi?
atomic escarp
wb shotty to the occiput
light totem
nope
light totem
🤷♂️ its ehh
native creek
is it me or was B Tier harder than C Tier
atomic escarp
If you're going for PE, yeah
native creek
PE?
atomic escarp
Prisoner Efficiency
atomic escarp
Fog is decent
native creek
an area is cool af, but a whole level
atomic escarp
Crispy fog is a bit worse
native creek
the fog turbine was a nice adding
I liked that a lot
but the fog over all just fucked me up
how do you guys handle it
without fog repellers
atomic escarp
There was an unintentional nerf on the pistol???
Listening to them and watching out for small outlines
obtuse surge
headshot damage was increased in an attempt to buff the pistol, but the increased damage caused the head to explode too early which turned it into a nerf instead. (you get forced to spam bodyshots to finish them off, which do so much less damage)
atomic escarp
Ah, thank you Wesly
cerulean monolith
Does A2 have the highest difficulty? The emblem on the far right? And if so how do you do it. My group has done the first 3 but arent sure how to do the 4th
obtuse surge
you do all 3 in the same run
cerulean monolith
Thats what we were thinking thanks Wesley
snow iron
I'm not prepared
kind swan
mossy yoke
scouts are friends
atomic escarp
Not food
ocean tundra
If I want to do the extreme on r4b2, do I have to do so first? Or can I do the main first then the extreme?
atomic escarp
You have to find the bulkhead key first to get to extreme
ocean tundra
Well I'm a bit confused here, me and my buddy chose to do the main objective first and open the main bulkhead door instead of extreme, but we couldn't seem to find a key to do extreme after choosing main. Are we just missin' a key?
ocean tundra
darn, assumin no way to turn of error like in r3d1?
pliant shard
No way to turn off alarm error that are pulled by a player as of rn
queen nymph
😮
rancid basalt
choke mod
atomic escarp
you dont even get a chance to thin out the herd before a wave spawns in front and wakes up both scouts.
rancid basalt
open the door after clearing a wave
choke mod at least one scout
hopefully, choke mod the other bc it's in a different zone
if not, deal with one scout wave
atomic escarp
2 scout alerts are fun
my fellas were able to deal with two scout alerts but that third one fucked us.
Even more fun
rancid basalt
or bash, but choke mod = lazy scout kills
atomic escarp
Admittedly the third one was our fault
rich estuary
tfw double scout spawn in the extreme room for A2
rancid basalt
gtfo and kite
rich estuary
can't carry whole team by kiting though
rancid basalt
sure you can
atomic escarp
You can
rich estuary
I've done 30 minutes of kiting, to pick up the entire team for them to only go down immediately for me to repeat the process
so no thanks
rancid basalt
you can't carry someone who is determined to stay down
atomic escarp
Why not kill the spawns first then revive
rich estuary
no ammo
atomic escarp
There's always a way
rancid basalt
hammer is fine
atomic escarp
HAMMER
rich estuary
hammering is a deathwish
rich estuary
besides they keep trickling in
rancid basalt
3 at a time
rich estuary
the few I kill end up getting replaced
atomic escarp
There's enough time to kill one wave
rancid basalt
you don't have to charge hammer all the way if you hit the head
rich estuary
yeah but what about two scout waves and a full room
atomic escarp
You just have to be determined enough to do the dew
rich estuary
then what
rancid basalt
run in circles
rich estuary
you guys act like this stuff is simple lol
rancid basalt
BONK
atomic escarp
It's all about perspective
If you keep thinking its hard it'll keep being hard
Gotta get that positive mindset
Noice
mossy yoke
congrats!
mossy yoke
twilit remnant
forest hound
errant saffron
How do you do unlock Overload? Is it like an extra bulkhead key? Or do you have to do Extreme first?
atomic escarp
@solemn bough You have to do extreme or overload first before continuing the main objective
errant saffron
I've never seen the option when i used the key
atomic escarp
You have to put the bulkhead key then scan for the objectives you want
errant saffron
Overload never showed though
But it was the first time I ran the map, so that may have something to do with it?
forest hound
Yeah go inside the extreme then you will eventually reach another bulkhead key thingy then there will be overload
errant saffron
Like I put in the bulkhead key in the scanner, and only High and Extreme showed
ohhh ok
that makes sense
forest hound
Can't speak for b2 or c2 since b2 is different
errant saffron
I wasnt looking for a key so i must have missed it
i cleared A2 Extreme, but was confused on how Overload was gotten to
forest hound
You need 2 bulkhead keys for extreme I think? It's been a few days
errant saffron
Yeah I needed one for Extreme and one for the High
lavish cloak
For the A2 overload, you need to open the first bulkhead, then when you choose between the extreme and overload at the 2nd bulkhead. You have to choose overload. If you're going for the Efficient Prisoner, you need to do overload to get a key to open the rest of the extreme
forest hound
What gellato said
errant saffron
Ahhh I got you. thanks for clarifying
queen nymph
It has two bulkhead hubs in A2
hardy sierra
It's actually not too bad either. Just make sure you bring a lot of ammo packs for whoever is holding them off.
Tool refills also help
atomic escarp
Even then holding them off with hammers is pretty easy to do if you’ve got experience
And if you don’t it’s a good way to train yourself
On the topic of A2
I’m fairly certain all HSU are in the same spot on each zone
If you go into zone 111 it’s all the way in the back of the zone in the final room in the far right corner of it
Zone 110 is in zone E a 2 story room below the grated bridge
Zone 112 is I believe is right at the end of the room close to the door for the next room in the zone
I’ve done extreme over 9 times and almost everytime I get them they’re the same HSU
lavish cloak
I've had it be the HSU directly to the left when you enter one of the zones, I forget which one. It's the one straight back though
We went all the way back looking for it, only for it to be right there at the start
hardy sierra
Yeah hammer is good too. But turrets and ammo make it marginally simpler
devout river
@thin siren Do you have trouble with a specific spot in B1
queen nymph
Which part of B1
thin siren
Its more I'm not sure on kitting, me and my team thought it might be more aimed at brute force but that only got us so far
and stealth doesn't seem super viable either
devout river
You can stealth most of it
Usually brute force does end up going badly
Its kind of unlucky if you get a bunch of big guys in a group together but other than that you can usually stealth
hexed vapor
Stealth is the most viable strategy most of the time.
You want to be behind titans when you kill them.
thin siren
Oh okay I think we're gonna try taking the fire power for when things hit the fan but we'll try stealth as much as possible
Titans being the big dudes?
devout river
Yes
hexed vapor
The person counting down should be in charge of occiput and hit back of the head. They need to do the countdown since they'll want to stand up to force a glow and get it to lean back.
thin siren
So we need to hit the titans when they're glowing? in the head with charged hammers?
native quarry
you don't need to, but it's better that way
hitting a titan anywhere with 3 different people can take it out
native quarry
4 if you want to secure it since 3 is a little bit iffy at times
thin siren
Coolio, we're gonna give it another bash thanks for the assist fellow prisoners 🙂
hexed vapor
@thin siren 3 hits in the back is 240 damage, four hits in back is 320 damage. If you want to get extra damage to make things safer, you want the back-of-the-head hit to deal 120 or 160 in a single hit (depending on the titan).
spare sail
tfw you go through the entirety of B1 with no ammo and 75% infection. My squad only lost because a blunder on my part aggroing three Big Shooters in zone....I think it was 52? It was a zone neck deep in Infection Fog. One Teammate dropped inside it while myself and my other teammate died at the high threat bulkhead. Him right after leaving the fog and me after I attempted to rez him
hexed vapor
You're using turbine, right?
spare sail
Yes
devout river
How did you get so much infection
thin siren
Thank you for your life story @spare sail
native quarry
if you went into that underground area with a shit ton of fog then that's a mistake, it's completely useless
thin siren
Very insightful
spare sail
I had to dive into the fog three seperate times and got govered in goop before we found the Turbine
thin siren
🙂
native quarry
my team went down there before doing the reactor and couldn't make it past stage 2
devout river
Well did you ping the turbine?
spare sail
It was our first run through of the mission, the Turbine was a massive surprise to all three of us, especially once we realized what it did
native quarry
and most of the objectives don't need a fog turbine, if i'm correct?
devout river
One of them does
native quarry
It was our first run through of the mission, the Turbine was a massive surprise to all three of us, especially once we realized what it did
ah so you guys were knew to it?
that makes more sense
devout river
You can stand on the door opening thing
and hack it while on top of it
No infection
spare sail
You learn things every day...
native quarry
bhops be like
queen nymph
You can also find out everything in the first terminal
dreamy bramble
is getting a random big charger during surges in c2 normal?
subtle vault
Ya
subtle vault
I was told it can spawn on any surge alarm door in C2
subtle vault
I have not seen him yet
dreamy bramble
i had it for the zone 54 surge and the zone 55 surge so far
subtle vault
I think
A friends said she ran at it and it punch her
Well time to do some testing
harsh pelican
It can punch, prob more damage than charger punches considering its tentacles do 16% each
what's scuffed is big chargers doing 40%
E1 vibes of invisible giants sprinting to kick your shit in 
subtle vault
I think the tentacles do 18%
harsh pelican
It referring to the hydra/father doing 16%
harsh pelican
Do chargers share the same punch animation with hybrids?
light totem
Think so yeah
harsh pelican
I gotta get decked by some more hybrids then cuz their punches always felt slower
light totem
Maybe the animation is just..... slower
leaden star
I just notice there is no kill mark when use choke mod shotgun
is this normal or bug?
still bay
wait is the B2 extreme and overload both error alarms?
so you have to do all of B2 with an error alarm on from extreme?
still bay
i agree
so do you just aggro every room in B2 cus you cant see shit anyway?
plus you have an error alarm going the whole time
hexed vapor
If your cell order isn't garbage, only 86 will be in fog.
But there is some suspicion that finishing gen cluster spawns a finite amount of enemies.
mellow creek
it spawns 1 single wave
then the spawn stops
but u cant put in the cells if u are doing overload
hexed vapor
Does that get rid of fog altogether?
still bay
finishing it stops the error alarm?
hexed vapor
Overload will be in fog, then?
At 4 cells?
No, but it doesn't start a new permanent alarm.
still bay
oh i see
hexed vapor
Okay, best strat is still 0 cells then.
hexed vapor
Tbh, overload wasn't too bad when my static ran it.
You just need to be on top of things and know how spawns work.
hexed vapor
I think we fought three scout waves?
mellow creek
i think we did almost for every scout we see
hexed vapor
Damn
mellow creek
cause we kept missing its head lol
hexed vapor
Our first wipe in overload was after alerting first room's three scouts (also we had fog too low and couldn't see jack shit down there).
mellow creek
ripp
we died at ||mother|| too
had a spawn right on her
and she wokeup
hahaha
harsh pelican
I wish I took a screenshot of it but there was a mother in B2's extreme objective door that was positioned that her face was up against the glass
true horror game
atomic escarp
constant alarm?
devout river
Eh not really
It took the team I was with like an hour to get to the end yesterday
Maybe a little more
hexed vapor
||Not sure how I feel about C2, just felt like a kite fest, but I like the scout numbers.||
devout river
Have not played C2 yet
hexed vapor
||Also, where is this class IV surge? They were all class III.||
devout river
Gonna beat C1 tonight prob
atomic escarp
i think im going to try c1
devout river
Did you do the side paths?
hexed vapor
We did everything and died at extract.
devout river
Eh idk then
calm vessel
E1 inly had class 3 surges iirc
digital halo
C1 isnt too bad
||the only bad part is if your bulkhead key is in zone 76 then they're 2 scouts chilling in the same room||
devout river
The thing at the end is kinda hard if you dont know how to kill it
digital halo
me and my friends kept dying right before that part
we dont even know how it attacks lol we just know where to shoot it just cause of the message
devout river
It has beeg tongue
But the tongue does not even do that much damage
It also punches you which does actually do a lot of damage
digital halo
oof
shy vessel
C1's intercepted transmission tells you how to kill it tho
so hopefully people are paying attention
digital halo
yeah
atomic escarp
uh guys
im having a glitch in c1
So for it i need a red key card
and its not spawned at all?
we cant query it
hexed vapor
LIST KEY
Key name doesn't always match due to a bug
Any red key on the map is the one you need.
atomic escarp
Nah no one has it
hexed vapor
Hey, doing some early polls here, on Reddit, and on Steam to get an idea of what people's favorite weapons are (or are expected to be) for these first few days of gameplay.
https://www.strawpoll.me/21173536
https://www.strawpoll.me/21173538
I'll be repeating these polls after about a month of R4 to see how opinions have shifted.
desert shell
Burst cannon
devout river
Wow
We just alerted one scout in C2
Which then dominoed into 7 scouts getting alerted
And we survived surprisingly
desert shell
lucky you
zealous kayak
hexed vapor
It's pretty alright this rundown tbh
Just not amazing and annoying to use for most people.
queen nymph
||As long as you can kite, you can survive with alerting every scout in C2 lol ||That's why I have a love-late relationship with C2
forest horizon
C2 is just a test of your patience
tribal cosmos
killing shadow scout require imagination
its better to kill it when its walking towards you then using the noodles
or mine and c-foam
you just have to kill a lot of scout to know how it would act while deploying the noodles
lyric narwhal
do shadow scouts bend over just like normal scouts?
tribal cosmos
yep
lyric narwhal
feck so we still have the uncertainty factor
tribal cosmos
its almost impossible to hit the head by trying to find it in 2 second window
you might as well guess where it is
if you sprint and flashlight the scout it would always bend over
lyric narwhal
youd have to use bio to get the general idea of the head position and then charge em with the flashlight on
tribal cosmos
we found out the error alarm spawn will depends on where the host is
devout river
Well where is the shadow scout on C2
tribal cosmos
so... we just let the host stay back and hammer the wave while the rest do the stealth
devout river
In the key zone?
tribal cosmos
just overload zone
tribal cosmos
its dark and there's apex as well
lyric narwhal
so the shadow scouts are exclusive to overload layers?
lyric narwhal
im gonna guess they dont put multiple in the same room right away
devout river
Does C2 side mission have another error
devout river
This is dumb
devout river
Well can you avoid that error by just not picking up the cargo till the end
tribal cosmos
yes but overload require that cargo
devout river
Of course it does
lyric narwhal
yeah just save it for extract
tribal cosmos
its not so bad
3 can protect and shoot and only 4-5 per wave
get a tracker and you are good
devout river
Well I should not worry about C2 side stuff yet I have not done B2 PE or C1 Extreme
devout river
You can either get an uplink that is really easy to defend or a hard one
tribal cosmos
you will see
we tried that lvl atleast 10 times
and we finished it while having the hardone
it was a achievement
and after the uplink you are most likely not gonna hve a lot of resources to kill the potato
did you know that the uplink is 12 ?
yea fun
devout river
Ye it does sound fun
tribal cosmos
basically you have to hold the wave for atleast 1 min and half
lyric narwhal
double c-foam is mandatory unless you wanna lose like all of your ammo
lyric narwhal
double gets you through most of it if you take spare tool refills with you
save the 3 and 4 use for the uplink
grab the nades
assuming its the good terminal of course
queen nymph
The best time to hammer them is when they bend over.
lyric narwhal
if its the bad one theyre getting in
hexed vapor
Double c-foam is too much, you should be able to get through 6 codes with full launcher and maybe a nade or two.
Our successful run we got through with full ammo and health left over.
And two full auto sentries.
Really a matter of conservation.
atomic escarp
Hey so wanted to ask a question for the overload in b2. How much fog will you encounter if you put no cells in
lyric narwhal
itll only really be in the 2 zones up the top door from the generator
atomic escarp
Damn so I was right in the end
lyric narwhal
did you put the cells in and the fog fecked ya?
atomic escarp
Ye
lyric narwhal
damn
atomic escarp
Had a teammate who sweared and declared the group he has previously said that putting two cells in would help
Turns out it fucked us big time
atomic escarp
Oh well good to gain some foresight anyway
lyric narwhal
like putting 2 cells in means there wont be fog in the top area for the last 2 cells
atomic escarp
Group was pretty good to managed to get B1 and A2 done all sectors before anyways
Also didn’t know the grace period for spawns was a minute long
Thought I’d be the same as A2
strong acorn
to get prisoner efficiency do you have to do all zones in 1 run or just clear all zones for that level in multiple runs?
atomic escarp
All in one run
strong acorn
rip
our group is having trouble with 109-end on a2, was hoping we could split it into 2 runs
are the efficiency skulls only for the a2,b2,c2,d2 levels?
light totem
Yep
obtuse niche
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hexed vapor
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nocturne flax
whats a good level to test scouts
tired charm
C1?
nocturne flax
yeah i was about to say: forget about its c1 like always
Theres something about scouts and c1
tired charm
Nothing like ||getting 2 scouts in Z78(?) with about 20 sleepers in the pitch black||
frail elbow
C2 if you have a group tho
There's that one room with 3 in it
And B1 through the extreme bulkhead has one
uncut wolf
atomic escarp
Kindly use the LFG channels to play with others
devout river
C2 seems good for scouts
Like I said earlier in one zone we had like 7 scouts that we alerted
desert shell
just got 2 burst cannon scout kill
atomic escarp
Nice
desert shell
but it is now rundown specific
devout river
Ya cause it sucks now
forest hound
Imagine shadow hybrids
forest hound
Oh god
desert shell
shadow scouts are here
desert shell
Shadow chargers when
light totem
Also suggested by me
forest hound
Shadow mother
light totem
I’ve been pushing shadow chargers and hybrids for a long time
forest hound
pseudo pumice
imagine a shadow-only level
desert shell
Flash time
light totem
Chase anything on the log yet?
forest hound
Shadow projectiles
light totem
Yes
desert shell
The game will be named
light totem
desert shell
ICSS
light totem
Log be like
desert shell
I can't see shit
forest hound
That's basically b2 when you put the cells in the wrong order
desert shell
lmao
forest hound
Wrong order when there is 2 scouts in fog that I can't see shit in
forest hound
I had bio
light totem
forest hound
granite sail
Lol imagine not finding deeper log
laughs in hasn’t found it either but hasn’t been looking because big lazy
magic lantern
west crow
Does anyone had any advice for the cargo shadow spawns on d2? They seem to spawn in waves of 5 every 5 seconds
hexed vapor
Seemed like it was 3 every ~10 seconds?
west crow
Yeah
hexed vapor
Haven't gotten a serious attempt in yet, but I would think keep moving while fighting.
west crow
Moving does you no good
hexed vapor
I imagine bio would help, especially since you don't really need two auto sentries.
west crow
I've gotten through to that point multiple times just with mines
Auto sentry is nice, just burns through tool
hexed vapor
Seems to burn at a fairly slow pace.
west crow
Class 6 cluster takes quite a bit
hexed vapor
Pretty close to burst efficiency, and better at what you'll need it for.
west crow
I think the auto sentry arguably outclasses the burst in efficiency (what a surprise) but I also think mines do you pretty solid if set up right
hexed vapor
I usually pick between them based on stalling vs killing. Stalling is just a lot more common of a purpose in GTFO.
west crow
Pretty much
I think they do a wonderful job on c2 prisoner efficiency
Lots of funnels where sleepers can be infinitely staggered
Regardless, d2 is relatively tight on ammo
Even if you hammer as much as possible
hexed vapor
Definitely, plan for static rn is to alert as little as possible in the overload and extreme zones so that we can be a bit better off for the gauntlet later on.
west crow
I've been just rushing though to avoid the fog turbine scan
You're left with less ammo but more visibility for the walk back
hexed vapor
Fog seems to cap at some point, so you just need to rush to that point.
(getting cell for turbine, tho)
west crow
I've been avoiding that door and the turbine door altogether
hexed vapor
Wtf, that would make overload practically impossible.
west crow
Not exactly
You can do all scans and boss in a little less than half an hour
That leaves only one zone fully fogged
It's a bit of a rush, but you have 3 people with guns and more visibility
hexed vapor
I'd rather just do the full 9 yards and actually have resources to work with.
west crow
I fully respect that
hexed vapor
Also, I'm pretty sure the one fully fogged zone is the fog cap.
west crow
It's one of the lowest zones on the map so it's not the cap
hexed vapor
Fog stops somewhere under the fog turbine zone door.
hexed vapor
Damn, I guess it goes in increments.
west crow
I think I've noticed the increments
I've had microstutters on the level and I believe thats when the fog rises
hexed vapor
Learning how that worked was gr8.
"Oh hey, this fog is infectious now"
"Guys, I think the fog's higher than it was 5 minutes ago."
hexed vapor
We were already nearly under the shit on the second cluster alarm iirc,
not a great start
west crow
I will say they couldn't fool me twice with picking up objective items
They already got me in c2 overload
hexed vapor
I had known the cargo was a trap, I hadn't heard about the gen cluster gimmick.
west crow
B1 normal?
west crow
Are you talking about the one before the blood door?
west crow
You can bait them through the back door by leaving it open
lavish cloak
The class 4 alarm/blood door to zone 56?
fervent crescent
yup, cannot pass the scan
hexed vapor
What are defenses?
west crow
If you have cfoam, you can perma foam (re cfoam the door) closest to you as that's where they come from if all doors are closed
fervent crescent
we are low on ammo and sentry ammo
only one tool refill for the whole round lmao
lavish cloak
I saw a post on reddit mentioning a zone 57 with ammo and a disinfectant station, but it requires the 4th power cell. I haven't found the room myself to say for sure it exists though
west crow
It's a zone door that's near the scan blood door
hexed vapor
Damn, I kinda wanna do "normal" runs on some maps, sounds like a whole different experience sometimes.
fervent crescent
@lavish cloak can find it by the terminal
hexed vapor
If you're having a load of trouble, do the extreme.
fervent crescent
yup, the zone of the bloody have zero sleeper
hexed vapor
It's honestly a decent way to get more resources.
lavish cloak
Yeah, the extreme seems useful for that, but two of the guys I was playing with figured it would add too much difficulty lol
I checked the terminal though, there's a ton of ammo over behind that extreme bulkhead
And reactor holdouts aren't bad
west crow
I've had to do a B1 extreme where none of the enemies stagger so they just butt boost directly to you
hexed vapor
Reactors w/ no stagger are fuckin' awful.
west crow
They're pretty bad
Don't ask me about the giant that didn't stagger, double hit everyone and tounged while swinging all in the matter of a second
twilit remnant
Wait why no stagger?
west crow
Bug
T posing Giants sliding across the floor at a running speed has given me nightmares
Gtfo is really a horror game
lavish cloak
I have thankfully not encountered that bug yet, but that sounds horrifying
west crow
☹️
south thicket
need a bulhead security key
and dont know how to get that :0
ive listed all items on whole floor and cant see anything like that
forest horizon
If you can't find it you aren't using the terminal correctly
south thicket
oh okay.. so any tips to find it ? or something ?
forest horizon
^
lavish cloak
That will list all items on the map with "Key" in the name
hexed vapor
Are there supposed to be 8 hybrids behind C2 and D2 motion doors?
forest hound
Yes
Atleast c2
Nothing more fun than dealing with that solo just to find out that you need to go through a class 4 alarm to get a cell to unlock the door afterwards
vapid moon
where can i find a video to see the new tank enemy
rain heron
hey guys why is woods being portrayed as a emoji or meme?
rich estuary
it really is a mystery
rain heron
lmao XD
harsh pelican
the community secretly loathes woods for taking north's spot as the leader of the GTFO gang
light totem
North best character
rain heron
XD, but i thought it was Bishop the leader of the group (personally my favourite is Hackett)
atomic escarp
Guys whats the final mission like
light totem
find out yourself, in D2
light totem
-_-
atomic escarp
Anyone know?
light totem
atomic escarp
The boss is a tanker right?
harsh pelican
It’s a forward waypoint extraction mission, you have to deal with several cluster alarms that increase in number.
light totem
harsh pelican
and yes, the last obstacle is a Tank
harsh pelican
don’t gatekeep @light totem 🙂
light totem
or just get there yourself
atomic escarp
You mean thicc daddy?
light totem
harsh pelican
If you google “R4D2 Prisoner Efficiency” there are some good videos of people clearing it rather quickly.
atomic escarp
Ok thanks
harsh pelican
Gatekeeping is how you kill an already small community, don’t be problematic.
harsh pelican
contemplate not everyone is going to reach D-tier
light totem
And?
harsh pelican
He is also asking in the spoiler channel
crimson sigil
where do you get the power cell for 106
on a2 extream
harsh pelican
You can query the zone it’s located in on a terminal! Use the command “list cell” to find its number
crimson sigil
ok but it says its in a zone we cant go to
harsh pelican
iirc for A2 extreme you have to do overload first
light totem
Yep
harsh pelican
it’s misleading that the game tells you to do overload last since you get locked out
crimson sigil
we did but now we are stuck because we cant to the door open becuse the power cells are in 110 and 111 and we opened 112
light totem
Iirc powered doors?
crimson sigil
yah they arnt powered
light totem
Then it’s user fault
harsh pelican
Yeah you only get one cell for that so you’re locked out now
light totem
So. Kinda a hard restart
crimson sigil
ok this game can suck my nuts
crimson sigil
the generators arnt next to the doors they open
rich estuary
imagine getting mad at someone giving spoilers in a spoiler channel
harsh pelican
^
light totem
Imagine wanting to get the game spoiled