We went up to it and just completely went berserk on the tumor things on her but then she spawned the babies and they all killed us
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
devout river
eternal acorn
were u all using combat shotguns, or was there a mix between combat and normal
cause that's basically what our group did to clear it, should've worked for u too
devout river
yea no we had all combat shotguns
eternal acorn
Try running some of the normal shotguns too
Should bring up the damage and hopefully get the insta kill u were going for
Is your group full? @devout river
devout river
yea we play with 4 people
We do not have a set in stone group but whenever we play it is with 4 people
eternal acorn
I see
I hate everything about B2
But I was going to offer help clearing it
Cause that's a bad level
devout river
eh it does not seem so bad
the area with lots of fog and spitters are kind of annoying
eternal acorn
Yeah, that's what I hate about it
devout river
But unless there is some really annoying stuff after the mother room we could probably do it if we just deal with the mother
eternal acorn
Hm.. this is in fact a spoiler chat
But imma not spoil
devout river
The only way the fog place would be annoying is if you have to run through it while an alarm is going off after you do the objective
eternal acorn
Y'know
dusky sluice
that final stretch of c1 was not what i was expecting
devout river
Also ominously saying that you are not going to spoil something after I asked if there was something annoying after the mother room scares me
barren badge
do u wanna know whats ahead of mother room or nah
devout river
I want to but at the same time nah
I mean I have already had most of the rundown spoiled
I mean it was of my own will I went into the spoiler chat but still
dusky sluice
i wont spoil but it isnt horrible
barren badge
^
dusky sluice
id say the worst of that level is bad rng in the beginning and bad spawns in the fog
devout river
Honestly it would have been much worse but we got with people who can somehow just run up to scouts and kill them
I do not understand that
I tried it once and everyone perished because of it
But as long as that mother is the only one in the level we should be fine probably
hexed vapor
It probably looks like "running up to it and killing it," but that's not how it works.
dusky sluice
so for c1 is it better to just have everyone scour for the pod at the end and just deal with the scout going off or attempting to stealth kill the scout and others defend the entrance to the final zone
hexed vapor
Standing kills and sprint-aggravated kills both require the scout walk towards you, and you need to clear out stuff in the areas you want the scout to walk to.
dusky sluice
also if your going to end up aggroing sleepers around you, you might as well just have someone take the shot
hexed vapor
@dusky sluice Every time I've done it, I've either stealth killed the scout quickly or I or somebody else shot it.
devout river
Idk we were in the fog and he just walked up to it and killed it like it was a normal sleeper
barren badge
Three people stay back and hold off the waves of enemies, one guy goes in and stealth kills scout
dusky sluice
wasnt exactly expecting an error door at the end of the level
barren badge
then find terminal as fast as possible
dusky sluice
yeah
dusky sluice
im glad alpha is back and the end zones are cool as well
glass sundial
It will be interesting to see if other levels return as well
The objective for D1 suggests we may return later on
atomic escarp
||R1D1? HMMM||
glass sundial
R3D1
I mean, we just leave the objective and extract lol
It's likely we will return later in a future rundown
glass sundial
If you look at the HSU it says something like
DNA read/write enabled
Meaning leaving it there is for the machines to either analyze the DNA of the baby, or rewrite the DNA entirely
It the child's DNA is rewritten and we return later to retrieve it, it might end up being something a bit difficult to retrieve 
mighty pond
The objective for D1 suggests we may return later on
I would say more likely than not we will have to return for the child, it doesn't make much sense to just abandon it with a needle stuck inside it lol
mortal granite
error
velvet flower
Just noticed a stealth nerf of the birther...it used to cost like 18 c-foam blobs to freeze, now 12 blobs seems sufficient
atomic escarp
Hell if you lucky enough you can stealth kill it without the need of Cfoam
Me and a group managed to fuck its shit up without it and it didn't even manage to spawn chubby sleepers
turbid cliff
all you need is a healthy helping of semi shotgun and it'll be gone in seconds
imagine them spawning during waves or when you alert scouts 
atomic escarp
Pls. No.
vague flicker
make mommy spawn other mommy like a babushka doll KEK
mortal granite
they nerf parkour in C1
lethal helm
"sad parkour noises"
sage shore
I’m gonna put a little rant in here, it’s regarding the casual casualizing of GTFO. It’s not inherently bad but it’s a breakdown of a recent experience I’ve had and I’m wondering how we can “fix” the issue of having new players getting carried through missions by vets because by the time they get to certain parts of the game they have no idea how to do stuff themselves.
mortal granite
just like D1 and E1
sage shore
No D1 and E1 were fine let me explain rq
craggy flame
Well, you cant rly stop that now can you. Those veterans are just morons if they are not teaching it correctly (I dont think they wanna). It is a player problem not a game problem. Something like that is hard to fix
nocturne flax
its simply we dont have enough levels
sage shore
So basically I played A3 recently with 3 people who only played this rundown and beat A1 and 2.
Whoever helped them beat it told them “to come here” every time he needed help and didn’t explain why.
They thought all security doors set off an alarm.
They thought you could only kill a scout with a sniper rifle or hel rifle so 2 of them carried either or.
Nobody wanted to “share” ammo, or tool refill or health.
When proposed that 2 bio trackers and a mine deployer might not be the best options for A3 since it’s mostly defense isn’t a good idea I was told I didn’t know what I was talking about and they needed the trackers to help clear rooms.
Like all relatively simple concepts were beyond these people and now that they’re at a slightly difficult mission and aren’t getting carried just complain about how difficult A3 is in their discord.
mortal granite
i think we need a tutorial video
sage shore
There needs to be like a “Tutorial” for new Santonian personnel where they go through the basics of this game or something...
nocturne flax
we need more filler introductory levels
pliant shard
That person that showed them how to play was not a veteran then. Probably just a cocky player thinking they know the game inside and out
mortal granite
if you want them to be good
pliant shard
I think a1 is a good introduction because it has a mix of everything. When I play with new guys I “act” like I don’t know the game either to see how they play. I offer tips to be more efficient but it’s about having them learn the game by themselves
nocturne flax
had a R1 "vet" told me back damage its not real
nocturne flax
we need more levels
mortal granite
i do need to tone down b-hop in C
because the new player still don';t know what b-hopping is
nocturne flax
more C's and D's
craggy flame
Yeah what Alpha is saying. Just let them pllay and explain if they have questions. Best way for players to become better.
obtuse surge
but sometimes you just wanna play an A or B tier because they are nice levels
mortal granite
alert the room and see how'll they do
sage shore
I still don’t know what b-hopping is but it’s fine, different strokes for different folks.
And we don’t need more levels we just need one tutorial level that’s forced upon new players so that everything else doesn’t have to be toned back
pliant shard
When helping newbies the mentality shouldn’t be “do this and only this” but offer tips that they can experiment with
nocturne flax
so newer people will hang out in the A's and B's and all the maniacs go to C's and D's
obtuse surge
playing with other experienced players will make it way too easy
playing with newer people either means carrying or doing nothing
atomic escarp
lock them inside then foam the door
nocturne flax
captain you scary man lol
craggy flame
As if they would do that. R2 was already hard and gave us plenty of maps. I think most experienced players played A and B levels
atomic escarp
while you deal with the scout horde
mortal granite
i'll train them 
atomic escarp
LEL
atomic escarp
Throwing them in the pool to learn how to swim tactic I see
obtuse surge
the definition of carrying also really depends on how you look at it
nocturne flax
intructions unclear using hell rifle for sick colateral montage
obtuse surge
i could easily get people through R2 D tier by giving them advice on strategies we could use
does that mean i carried them?
pliant shard
obtuse surge
or would you rather say, one of those expeditions where i end up last man standing multiple times is a carry
pliant shard
Let’s discuss
obtuse surge
altho, in that case
nocturne flax
no, he meant "put sentry here, put sentry there without explanation on why" type of carry
mortal granite
i do that
sage shore
Yes
obtuse surge
are you expecting me to just not try and let myself get killed
mortal granite
but
obtuse surge
mortal granite
with details
glass sundial
I try to offer advice on where to not put sentries
nocturne flax
you gotta die for the baby prisioners
mortal granite
WHY would WE place the sentry here?
glass sundial
"That's going to shoot us on scans, you should really move it."
"I think it's fine"
glass sundial
"Okay, but last time someone put one there I got shot several times doing scans"
mortal granite
i might ask that
sage shore
Like “hey there’s an alarm door in this room, there only one way in so if we put sentries on the other side and seal it shut with a c-foam we shouldn’t have to worry to hard.
nocturne flax
@glass sundial but that poetry
mortal granite
that's too big brain
sage shore
That’s the type of person who’s going to call you toxic for saying I told you so
glass sundial
I just go with something like, "yeah that turret placement really is bad, next time it should be put somewhere else"
Calling their actions stupid, rather than them stupid for ignoring my advice
manipulating people to not dislike me at its finest
nocturne flax
nah that where they hit you with "i play alpha and you wrong bye bye"
atomic escarp
You put yourself at harm in the process though
mortal granite
no
glass sundial
I mean if they're going to suicide on their turret when they were told what was going to happen, there's not much else you can do for them
nocturne flax
they allergic to cmd
glass sundial
just type stuff into it
mortal granite
delete system32
glass sundial
It even has a help menu
nocturne flax
nah
commands too difficults
intructions unclear i typed reactor_startup on wave 9
mortal granite
they fixed that
glass sundial
mortal granite
you can't do that anymore
nocturne flax
thank god
sage shore
Thank christ
mortal granite
they even fix the brute force code
nocturne flax
good times
sage shore
Anyways moral of the story is that we need a tutorial level. I don’t want to have to endure the social contract of having to teach new players how to play the game or “offer helpful tips” every time I want to re-do A and B tiers in the run down.
nocturne flax
it would be cool if they added like a mini tutorial rundown that you have to play before you enter the actual one
like some basic levels with basic objectives
glass sundial
Depending on rundown sizes, A tier should only be 1 or 2 levels, always
glass sundial
I just got home and installed potato mode so I can play with randoms but none are looking for levels I want to play
mortal granite
then play the levels you don't want to play
glass sundial
Also I don't think I can make guides until tomorrow
idk, these levels are all too linear
sage shore
Unironically don’t bother making a tutorial video nobody watches them. Force them to play a tutorial
glass sundial
Always go one path and stick to it, no variation :/
mortal granite
well
if they don't know
they gonna look for it
like
if you want to eat
go to the kitchen
pliant shard
I hope they add more optional objectives. We already see extra cells in levels. Would be cool to see an optional path that has an alarm or two that leads to a generator that turns on more lights in a dark level.
sage shore
No, it’s easier to come here and tell everyone that the game is to hard because they don’t understand basic concepts then to admit that what their doing is not conducive to winning
pliant shard
Something that rewards the risky optional path
nocturne flax
we need more side rooms
glass sundial
As it stands now, this rundown is very very straighforward
pliant shard
I was surprised when I played b1 and b2
glass sundial
Not really much in the way of optional zones or anything
nocturne flax
i mean its big ass hallway this rundown
pliant shard
Open everything in b1 and 1 extra room in b2
glass sundial
A1 straight line, A2 I guess you can pick the order? But either way you go everywhere
A3 same every time
B1 you can pick which terminal is first, but you still go to all zones
craggy flame
C1 is the only one which allows to adventure a bit. But even then not that much either.
glass sundial
B2 you can pick between a turbine or repellers, except everyone wants the turbine since you need it to return so you always go left, then straight line.
glass sundial
C1 you just follow a straight line again. There's a resource zone which is cool. It's like the only one in the entire rundown
But either path needed to take leads to the same thing
nocturne flax
⬆️
glass sundial
Can you imagine if zone 20 was the error door, but 17 had something else?
Like a Class X alarm door or something
Instead of the same regardless of the required path
nocturne flax
i wouldnt mined they mixed ||momma and the chargers|| in that level
glass sundial
D1 is the same way, run straight to the objective, collect missed resources, then go to the extract
pliant shard
Wouldn’t that bring up the “rng based” argument again like we saw in e1 though?
nocturne flax
so if you go to 20 you get a ||boss fight|| and 17 a error door
glass sundial
The RNG problem of E1 was really just the massive difference in enemy count
nocturne flax
nope
glass sundial
That's not really the same as the map playing differently from run to run
pliant shard
Ahh I see that makes sense
glass sundial
C1 is the most interesting level this rundown to me simply because all the others play in a straight line to extract, which is... too linear
Think back to R1B1. You literally had 3 paths to take, and only 1 of the doors was not optional
1 required zone aside from spawn, then the path was yours to take from there
Same for R1C2, there was of course the main path, but then 3 optional zones to choose from to finish the objective
It led to a much more diverse experience
craggy flame
Same with R2D1 and its cells. Deciding how to do this level
glass sundial
The only things that provide replay value for me are either difficulty or an immersive and versatile experience
That's why games like Minecraft and the like are so popular, it's always different and you can do anything
R2D1 aside from spitters being invisible in fog was a very well designed level
nocturne flax
i take this rundown like a story campaign rather than a actual runwdown
glass sundial
Even then, that's just the design of an enemy, not the level itself
nocturne flax
it had to be a little linear so we can experience some of the story progression
glass sundial
That's a good way to look at it. Unfortunately most campaigns have little replay value once you have already experienced it, aside from player created challenges
nocturne flax
and thats where it lands sadly
hope they make R4 better
a more meaner and bigger R3
glass sundial
Optional zones, or difficulty. That's what makes levels more interesting in the current state of the game
Most objectives are pretty straight forward in the path to complete them, so I feel like ID collection missions are a bit more interesting overall
nocturne flax
aaahh c2
glass sundial
Or something similar to D1, where you need to collect things around the map
So... collection missions in general really
They offer optional content, adding a lot of replay value
craggy flame
I am just happy that R3 it isnt so tedious like R2. Most maps were just annoying or boring.
glass sundial
Naturally, optional extra content is more work to create, but it really shows
I didn't personally like most of the B tier for R2, but the C tier+ was pretty good
craggy flame
Well, the devs proly work on new ideas for objectives and maybe other things to keep us occupied.
glass sundial
We'll just have to see
glass sundial
I should post my garbage map I drew in ms paint in 5 minutes onto the media page lol
nocturne flax
c1 its a classic
glass sundial
It's so bad it saved into my memes folder 
nocturne flax
hands down for me that was like the dust 2 of that rundown
glass sundial
But the whole point was to show a more intricately designed level than most of what we can play at the moment
nocturne flax
post it i would love to see it
pastel ice
Where's watermelon.exe
glass sundial
Don't look at it, it's bad
I had drawn a comparison picture to how the current map structure is but I guess I didn't save it
Nevermind I found it, it just saved elsewhere
I hope rundown 4's level design it a bit more intricate than 3's design. Level design is one of the most important aspects of a game, pretty close to sound design and gameplay mechanics
exotic crow
With the current state of the game I sure as hell am not doing optional content in a level. Lol
Even doing the bare minimum I generally leave with close to no ammo left if I get out at all
glass sundial
Fair point lol
But it's a fun thing to do if you finish the rundown, to try to clear the extra areas
nocturne flax
one thing tho its that some rooms in this rundown are empty
like
its just a room to walk around
no boxes no that many thing filling the room
its just feels dead
i dont mind them reusing tiles and rooms but decorate them better to atleast, so it looks different
dire moss
Anyone have tips for D1? My team and I keep getting overwhelmed once we get to z397
mortal granite
don't die
rancid gate
ez
shy vessel
Rush rush rush, the faster you go the more resources you'll have later
A c-foam launcher helps greatly, I've found. especially if you know how to trick the door
dire moss
Thank you! We been going just all sentry def gonna play around with crown and mines
atomic escarp
2 shotgun sentries are enough, and usually 1 mind and cFoam is a very, very powerful combination. The amount of utility you get is insane.
weak anvil
Anyone got any position tips for R3A3?
In the reactor door, or on the ramp in the kill tunnel?
wet zealot
Position in the tunnel. A lot of people like to defend the reactor room itself
2 sentries are enough to defend. Just dont really overuse your ammo early
nocturne flax
bring something for the giants/hybrids too sniper
pine needle
👆Burst cannon / HEL guns worked awesome for me while defending the tunnel in A3
obtuse surge
In a team of 2 or more, you can open the bottom door in the first room and then camp that one ladder in the next room. You can line up sentries along their path.
cosmic jasper
@weak anvil In the tunnel, defend on only one side of the upper level, it funnels all of them to one staircase
2 Sentries and combined firepower make it ezpz for A3
obtuse surge
You can also defend the long hallway, I'd recommend not standing in the middle but picking one of the elevated sides^^
Allows you to line them up better while also being able to take cover behind stairs
HEL gun is a good pick when defending the hallway
weak anvil
Thanks for the feedback 😄
weak anvil
Is the HEL Rifle good for dealing with Giants?
atomic escarp
No.
zenith crystal
i would use burst cannon
nocturne flax
sniper/burst canon
weak anvil
Really? I've been using the Sniper.
weak anvil
I'll try burst then
zenith crystal
it 2 charges them
mighty pond
2 charges front of body
It 1 charges back
Sniper also generally speaking 2 shots to front of body, and 1 shots to back of head
glass sundial
I can't wait to actually share strategy for the levels when people ask
eternal acorn
lol
abstract gulch
The pump shotguns are good on giants too if you have the space to approach
One shot to stumble and the second to the occiput and it dies.
Or one to stumble and 2 in the back
frank valley
Just confirmed that the new spawner type enemy in B2's weak point are the pulsating growths on its 'back'.
Burst cannon does nasty damage to it, btw.
oblique peak
eternal acorn
i also believe it to be random values of 5-15 for health regained and like 4-12 for infection
vale pecan
lolwhat
how did that sentry bug happen
does anyone have a good picture of the mother from its face side?
cool
vale pecan
fair
zenith crystal
subtle vault
Cursed
coarse gate
best way to take out the first boss in b2?
atomic escarp
Wait there's a 2nd boss in B2?!?!?!
fluid pelican
shoot the babies
abstract gulch
there's only one in b2
abstract gulch
That I know of
The best method my team has is to bait it into spawning its wave of fucks and then kill all of those, and then bum rush it with the whole team and make sure someone carries the fog turbine so you dont go blind.
Cause it can't really do anything while on cooldown from spawning a wave.
Besides run around and barf fog
It's actually not that hard to make it corner itself lol
atomic escarp
My method is while its sleeping is to unload every thing on it simultaneously
Full charge hammer it then gun go brr
abstract gulch
Well that usually immediately follows the bum rush
I have heard that if you get a whole team with heavy weapons behind it and just dump HARD it can die before it spawns anything
I've not done that nor have i seen it done however.,
pine needle
we tried it (kill it before it spawns something) and it worked, everybody went behind the momma ready to shoot tumours, one guy with burst cannon shooting the pulsing stuff on her back + one guy positioned himself with HEL gun being able to penetrate the tumours...she went down super quickly
abstract gulch
What were the other two running?
pine needle
I had normal shotgun and the other guy combat shotgun
atomic escarp
Did you also place sentries to make it overkill
abstract gulch
Thanks for the confirmation though
pine needle
nah, we wanted to see if we can delete her just with brrrr brrrr force
atomic escarp
Shame jk
pine needle
Im sorry
atomic escarp
I did specify to make it overkill
pine needle
also tried to literally make a circle of mines around her, that one backfired so hard though
atomic escarp
Lol
pine needle
lets say my body parts could be found at the spawn point of B2 lol
abstract gulch
Oof
coarse gate
is it better to do both scan doors back to back for b2
yeah, the scan door to the left
and the scan door to the right
yeah
abstract gulch
Isn't it the one on the right with the keycard and the left has a fog turbine?
abstract gulch
Oh my bad
It was one has res and the other has a turbine.
My mistake.
Been a bit since I've played b2
IIRC the right one will also have far more resources.
IIRC the run my team beat b2 with went to 507 and skipped on 508.
we nabbed the fog turbine and went straight to the next mandatory door immediately after and basically didnt bother with a single side room
We avoided side rooms so much we actually dodged the scout, and he got set off while we were running to extraction
coarse gate
what comes after you kill the boss? i never made it past that part
abstract gulch
Its not to rough
atomic escarp
Let the power of Lordvig in our hearts revive this chat and let it live freely without any contraints!
atomic escarp
Nani the hecci
lilac jackal
came for emotional support oz
atomic escarp
Blender, you're a legend. You stopped my self pity.
lilac jackal
your efforts arent in vain
atomic escarp
There's no such thing as bad exposure
idle coyote
New leaked rundown 4: ||The Warden does face reveal owo||
lilac jackal
Rundown 5: Plastic ||surgery||
thought it was gonna say love. -1
atomic escarp
Weird shit has been going on in this server since the update
hmmm
Does that include my sanity by any chance?
Depends on the situation
zenith crystal
How many members are in the discord now
subtle owl
Exposure to nuclear waste is bad exposure
atomic escarp
Almost 200k
zenith crystal
wow its grown
lilac jackal
she got thicc
atomic escarp
it went from 186k to almost 200k in a week
lilac jackal
i feel bad for the folks who just missed the gem that was r2
atomic escarp
I feel bad not using R1 MG
subtle owl
I didn't finish E1 
lilac jackal
also sorry if i make stupid spelling mistakes. just got back from an... interesting night if yknow what i mean
atomic escarp
With this Rundown, it's pulled in more people.
Iz foine
also sorry if i make stupid spelling mistakes. just got back from an... interesting night if yknow what i mean
@lilac jackal
Care to explain? :P
When the rundown dropped some "hardcore" players complained it was too easy
like bruh
This Rundown is hard for new players but easy for vets.
Devs are working hard
lilac jackal
it involved watching 1990s french canadian television shows. the rest is QUESTIONABLY within the rules
lilac jackal
who
atomic escarp
It's a horrible balence. However, I strongly believe once they got the difficulty right. They will give us Vets the mode we all want.
lilac jackal
where
zenith crystal
thats why you play with a group
lilac jackal
smh
lilac jackal
like at least ASK before you spoil
zenith crystal
yea im not going to watch the trailer or look at any leaks for R4
lilac jackal
3 weeks isnt passed is it?
zenith crystal
as tempting as it will be
atomic escarp
Restrictions will be lifted in the 25th
As soon as R4 Ludvig leaks come out. I'm reframing from GTFO untill I play the rundown and finish it. I actually want to expirencece it.
zenith crystal
yea I want it to be a surprise
lilac jackal
ngl im a fake fan, didnt watch r3 trailer by accident
atomic escarp
The trailer ruined it for me for R3 really.
lilac jackal
why?
zenith crystal
Yea it spoiled to much for me but i get why they need to draw attention
atomic escarp
It'd be nice if they didn't include the mother in the trailers
zenith crystal
so im just not going to watch it
zenith crystal
except the chargers coming back
lilac jackal
i thought they did a tasteful job with the mother in the trailer. i dont remember them showing any shots close enough to get a good look at her
atomic escarp
In R4 its possible we'll get more audio logs
lilac jackal
we shall pray
atomic escarp
More than 2 at least
zenith crystal
we definitely will
lilac jackal
i loved the audio logs when my team wasnt pushy
atomic escarp
If you're going to make a teaser trailer/gameplay trailer. It's got to be in a way to tease the weapons and still have surprise. If they only use like 1 or 2 new guns. And just had another you can see but not shot or anything like the burst cannon was in second, also just having the mother scream would have very much kept the surprise a lot more fresh.
lilac jackal
i actually think i would have liked it better to just hear the scream, guess i just dont remember much from it
lilac jackal
its just him pissing his pants
atomic escarp
Dude, the whole community would have been shaken up by seeing babies for the first time and not in the trailers.
lilac jackal
ok real talk folks. can we make a gtfo version of that shitty fortnite kid song p l s
atomic escarp
Children will be traumatized
lilac jackal
i was just listening to it (dont ask why) and i feel like we could translate it so easily
atomic escarp
If they even see a single striker
I would have never suspected it, I really like the the fact that the new monster was screaming and nothing else. Like it made you be curious. When they teased the babies, I bloody new it was birthed from the mother in the trailer.
Creating the mystery around the new enemy will make of a better reveal rather than showing it outright from the trailers
And will get players theorizing on what it does like when the new weapons were teased by lord
Ludvig leaks is a really nice tease. It think it's done right.
Yea
zenith crystal
Ok I am wondering if this is going to make a comeback. https://imgur.com/a/HivEh7z
Because thats freaky as hell
atomic escarp
I want my fucking alien game :(
glass sierra
facts
atomic escarp
GTFO is the alien game we needed and deserved.
Like that's how I found out about the game, it was when I was searching for the a new alien game.
glass sierra
lol, nice
mortal granite
there is a bunch of ppl played the E3 version
glass sierra
Apparently, they’re not aliens technically
mortal granite
at Gamecon or something
glass sierra
I think a few are still here?
abstract gulch
Earliest I played was the alpha.
I still have unused alpha invites in my steam inventory lol.
glass sierra
Lol, same
dusky sluice
i really liked the idea of the first iteration of the biotracker
shows you a rough outline of the room infront of you and likely the inhabitants
abstract gulch
IIRC that still exists within the game available to the devs.
But it isn't implemented into the game proper
dusky sluice
idk i really liked the idea of that mechanic
probably
the camera that showed the outline of the room infront of you
rare crane
its called the Mapper and you could see it equipped in inventory in a pre-alpha gameplay video
the bio tracker then was referred to as the enemy scanner
dry hazel
We've been on boot for a while now tryna figure out how to do this terminal stuff xD
abstract gulch
well aside from the HELP and COMMANDS commands, there are also numerous online tutorials for them.
It takes a bit to learn but becomes second nature pretty quick
dry hazel
alright
vague flicker
@dry hazel I can dm you if u want on how to use the terminal
smoky dove
How to solo the extraction poinnt on R3A2?
craggy flame
I recommend alot of mines. Or alot of kiting when doing with other tools.
pliant shard
If you have mines laced up you should have to worry too long. Extraction is long and you will be fighting in fog at the end. You can hold on the left side of the scan and the will funnel pretty and you shouldn’t have to kite
smoky dove
I had four mines, they killed maybe 8 or something, two got set off by a single sleepers
Not sure how well i can kite at all when the whole map is fogged to the ceiling
mortal granite
Do birtha take damage from mines?
i saw someone kill birtha with 9 mines blow up at the same time
but if 9 mines place out and she ran through them
she didn't die
vale geyser
Ok I am wondering if this is going to make a comeback. https://imgur.com/a/HivEh7z
yo wtf is this
vale geyser
but when was it here
mortal granite
nope
vale geyser
wheere
mortal granite
didn't appear yet
vale geyser
R4?
mortal granite
it could
vale geyser
it'll take a couple of months imo
mortal granite
they made the rundown when they're testing the previous rundown
well
this one could last about a month or so
mortal granite
small rundown
last one it's a huge one
the first rundown they take 1 month break
vale geyser
r3 is neither small or big
vale geyser
its only 3 maps shorter than r2. but i guess r2 was way harder
mortal granite
how do you know is 8 maps
vale geyser
it will most probably not that hard
how do you know is 8 maps
follwong ur line
1-> 6
3->7
2 was out of league in difficulty so dont count it lol
vale geyser
but r 3 is way ezier than r2
nocturne flax
well a lot of the maps has a lot of reused tiles and places so they done those maps real quick only A1 and D1 seem crafted
vale geyser
well thats true too
nocturne flax
so im with alpha probably a month
vale geyser
hmmmm
mortal granite
they can push development faster with those reuse asset
nocturne flax
month and half before they put the next one
vale geyser
yea i think so too
mortal granite
they have bug tester testing the map like
a month early or so
to minimize all the cheese
and bug fixes + balancing new equipment
nocturne flax
i dont think its for cheese but for the map to be actually functional
mortal granite
ye
nocturne flax
like how i fell 3 times in E1 last rundown
mortal granite
you could say
nocturne flax
wink**wink
mortal granite
when the gtfo roadmap said
mortal granite
when level design + testing are initially
vale geyser
c2 made me lose brain cells
mortal granite
they're already tested A B C
vale geyser
they're already tested A B C
@mortal granite R4?
nocturne flax
?roadmap
mortal granite
when the gtfo roadmap said: level design + testing are initially
then it's mean they could have tested a b c when the yellow tick at A
nocturne flax
unity LTS
mortal granite
NO MORE MOONWALKING
nocturne flax
oohh LTS(long term support)
sage shore
Played D1 yesterday and noticed that the new shotgun sentry is about as useful in combat as a biotracker. Looks like mines is the way it has to be
sage shore
Was it the same bug that made it do more damage for each shotgun sentry the team had?
nocturne flax
SS gets fixed
mortal granite
ye
nocturne flax
Community: is this useless
nocturne flax
but MOM i cannot heavily depend on my sentries anymore
mortal granite
Burst sentry: MOM SAID IT'S MY TIME TO PLAY
nocturne flax
i just wanted free scans and security door
Burst sentry its still my main sentry and my baby
sage shore
Yea I agree I thought the shotgun sentry was op now it hits like a wet paper bag. But I’ve always loved my mines it’s good to see them be the dominant tool again
nocturne flax
pfff shotgun sentries are fine now
theyre still king
ammo efficient, chokepoint killer
atomic escarp
I'm probably going to use burst more now xD
nocturne flax
are you using in it like a shotgun sentry?
because then its obviously gonna be like that
people grab burst sentry and use it like a shotgun one and then they call it trash
burst sentry its ok, but its not on par with every other tool
forest horizon
No matter how you use it, it misses half of its shots and barely kills anything at range.
It wastes too much ammo.
nocturne flax
i can agree with the ammo part
forest horizon
How the devs haven't buffed it yet blows my mind
forest horizon
It misses a lot of shots.
nocturne flax
yep but thats because of the "unintetional buffs" toi enemy speed
nocturne flax
in r2 burst was a little more capable
the efective range of the burst sentry its 13 meters
after that its just goes to hell
ive been playing burst for 25hours now
its not super bad
forest horizon
The main issue is that despite scanning targets quickly, it still misses a lot of hits for no reason.
nocturne flax
but you gotta babysit it a lot
its just the firing speed
shotgun sentry waits a second before shooting
burst just pukes bullets
naruto runners and enemies that move sideways are the bane of a burst sentry
and because of the speed its just makes it worst
forest horizon
That's what I'm saying
nocturne flax
r2 burst sentry was better
forest horizon
Just buff the accuracy and rate of fire
forest horizon
If its gonna use a ton of ammo, at least make it super accurate as well
nocturne flax
lower rate of fire will fix most of the burst sentry issues
it doesnt need to be a sniper a kill everything at 40meters
that would be too broken
by just lowering the rate of fire, it will fix the ammo consumption and accuracy problems
sentries in general are bad at tracking
since right now the tool refill to ammo consumption its just not worth it
burst sentry still top tier while holding a point with the squad acting as fifth man while you reload, it makes me cringe when i see people putting burst sentries behind doors
quiet breach
Is it a bug or a D1 chip, spawn 2 large each wave immediately?)
sage shore
No it’s not a bug it’s a feature
sullen sigil
3 man team trying A3. Setup suggestions?
sullen sigil
Really though?
We take carbine
I found pump shotgun good too for biggies
We die on wave five every time (2 shotgun sentry + cfoam launcher)
Any recommendations for placement or anything?
Somebody? 😔
Anybody? 😢
atomic escarp
DMR is really suited for A3 because if the range. It's super underestimated.
shy vessel
Camping the ladder at spawn is an OP setup and trivializes the whole level
Just keep right door closed and bottom door open, ez win
atomic escarp
Yeah, shotgun is ideal but there are some good spots for burst.
sullen sigil
Wait they run to the other door if we close one?
shy vessel
They'll go thru the open door if the other one is closed
sullen sigil
Welp. 😅
shy vessel
Unsure how well it works post-shotgun sentry nerf, but it should be fine
Just bring pumps / snipers
Pumps camp ladder, snipers take out big strikers
sullen sigil
Okie
shy vessel
Use w/e for primary to take out regulars
sullen sigil
😁
obtuse surge
Be aware that enemies sometimes don't give a single fuck and break multiple doors instead of going through an open door
My A3 solo for example, they actually ended up going through the closed door instead of the open bottom door
shy vessel
If you stand on the far left, they'll break to door
They'll never break it if you stand in the middle
obtuse surge
left changes depending on what way you're facing
I was on the side that has the bottom door
Yet they still took the other one
A longer path with more resistance
neon coyote
forest horizon
@slender fossil thanks for posting the music for r3
fossil kernelBOT
Sorry, unable to find a tag named infection.
zinc hinge
😦
turbid cliff
everyone was laughing how burst sentry misses shots
shotgun sentry failed to kill a (sleeping) crawler when i placed it 3m away from its ass
kek
i mean it's a 1.5x mult for sentries not 2x but that's friggin ridiculous
sullen sigil
Lol
hard basin
fossil kernelBOT
Spoiler: What each syringe does: ||The red one gives you health, but also infection, the yellow/green one buffs your hammer for short time, also gives you infection.||
mighty pond
shotgun sentry failed to kill a (sleeping) crawler when i placed it 3m away from its ass
True though
Both sentries miss a ton of shots, and end up hitting the players with those shots instead 🙂
zenith crystal
The real target is the prisoners
crisp vapor
Hands down i think C1 is the best level of this rundown
craggy flame
I think so too
crisp vapor
So satisfying overall, difficulty, enemies, longevity, objectives and optional rooms
atomic escarp
Double alarmed doors on C1 is fun
calm sundial
I wouldn't be surprised if the devs programed sentries to aim at players
cyan totem
why do we resusitate a baby
calm sundial
To throw it into a computer Matrix style
atomic escarp
So basically like jumpstarting a car in where you use electricity on the heart for it to involuntarily beat? ||Maybe I'm a big dumb||
bronze coral
I imagine because it is in stasis that means the brain is no longer active but similarly it has neither decayed due to oxygen deprivation
Hence it's more or less just the process of waking it up, as I imagine normal CPR probably won't work considering the brain itself was likely deactivated in the freezing process in addition to neurotransmitters, etc the whole body is essentially stopped.. I imagine its just some fancy scfi way of actually getting the Nervous System itself to restart so the heart itself can go back into rythmn and the body can come back online in it's entirety
and then the pressure chamber needs to be properly unsealed for whatever reason, I mean baby fragile, just unfrozen, probs safer then just smackin a hole in it
atomic escarp
Punch a hole in the Baby HSU will make for an easy expedition
trim holly
The amount of enemy that spawn on the first alarm door in D1
atomic escarp
Yes
cinder imp
Does anyone have a more or less confirmed version of the enemy behavior changes in r3?
I know they move faster and they seem to have longer reach, but idk if they wake up easier or other stuff
knotty sphinx
I believe the attack range is bugged, as in it goes twice as long as it should
vale pecan
attack range bugged, can hit you up to 2x its normal range for some reason
low bone
theyve evolved
vale pecan
movement and attack speed is faster than it should be
doc confirmed that one
as a bug
vale pecan
shut
light totem
up
low bone
rude
light totem
and shadow chargers
vale pecan
and i want them now
mighty pond
I've been saying that for awhile :)
light totem
as in R4 now
vale pecan
and i want normal sleeping shadows
cinder imp
I want r2 back 😭
mighty pond
I want big chargers
light totem
It would be really cool
vale pecan
as well as a shadow variant of everything besides the mother
I hope they add the Father or smthn
as a giant striker boss
but with more to it
instead of just "big stronk"
I love the mother
in terms of enemy
copper pilot
Is there a channel for "known bug issues" ?
cinder imp
So only speed and range has been confirmed by 10C?
mighty pond
copper pilot
thanks im blind
mighty pond
It hasn't been updated for anything new this rundown, but it exists
copper pilot
ahh
yeah wanted to hop on and check, enemies felt weird and sentries largely useless
vale pecan
yup yup
strafing is harder too
just cause their range and speed
also, waking up a shooter while it is looking at you
the shooter will immediately shoot
with no delay
that isnt normal
it usually waits a second
mighty pond
Sentries have been adjusted to their proper level of damage now
vale pecan
we need more stealth enemies and more charger representation
trim holly
D1 need a reduction in the number of enemy during Alarm door
light totem
Bruh
mighty pond
D1 is fine to be honest
vale pecan
Its fine
light totem
Agreed
mighty pond
It's the last level it's meant to be challenging
vale pecan
D1 is the only challenging level in this rundown
light totem
It was more fun with the 2x mother glitch
cinder imp
Try 3 you casual
vale pecan
lol
i wouldnt mind
sounds fun
they need surge alarms back too in later levels
i miss them
cinder imp
Sentries have been adjusted to their proper level of damage now
@mighty pond I love how people get hung up on "proper" or "intended", the game was balanced with the previous sentry damage and now it's been nerfed, that's all there is
You can still agree or disagree with the nerf, being intended or not is irrelevant
mighty pond
It's not a nerf though?
They were fixed lol
And the game isn't any harder to complete with the "nerf" as it currently stands to begin with
cinder imp
A patch occurs and something is less powerful=nerf
atomic escarp
It's still just as good, the only thing that's been changed is the effective range really.
cinder imp
And yes, it should be harder to complete if you run shotgun sentries at all, how harder is not easily quantifiable
mortal granite
i would just lower the damage of the shotgun sentry = burst
mossy yoke
The game was balanced around the damage numbers of what it should be doing. Not to mention y'all wanted a difficult game. The shotgun sentry has been overpowered for a while now and this patch was to fix the bug that caused it to be too powerful.
mortal granite
so they have to choose between the 2
vale pecan
hey doc
mossy yoke
If you rely on SS that much....
glass sundial
Combining different tools > 4 turrets
vale pecan
question
mortal granite
TAKE IT AWAY DOC
glass sundial
Why? Because you don't have the tools to sustain them...
mortal granite
MAKE THEM USE C FOAM
mossy yoke
...
vale pecan
Invisible scouts.
glass sundial
You can almost sustain 3 turrets, maybe if you also run bio as the 4th. But even then, they'll sit on 20-40% ammo at all times
2 turrets is the most you should have
atomic escarp
@glass sundial The very same people who complain about the SS about its correct value numbers are the type of people who rely on the SS too much. That just means they are just not good players in my book if you relie on the SS that much.
glass sundial
I think reverting the previous shotgun sentry nerfs would be justified since they only occurred due to them being overpowered, except their power was a bug
Like, restoring the back damage multiplier, since it was because they were too strong
mighty pond
Unless you speedrun fast and furious like, then all sentries
vale pecan
but
bio is actually really good
same with mines
if you arent a potato
and you have someone that actually scans on the bio
atomic escarp
It's shifted more to the mime meta.
mighty pond
All jokes aside yes, each of the tools are good
atomic escarp
Legit, the SS is till good as before. It's effective range has decreased and that's really it.
glass sundial
I think people who can't place shotgun turrets properly should just use the burst sentry since it would actually do something
mighty pond
It will see more play now that shotgun is in it's proper place
atomic escarp
Burst just needs faster targeting and more ammo, and it would be golden.
mighty pond
Burst that is
rare parcel
enemy just pass threw it like its was never there at all
mighty pond
I've already seen quite a few people opting for burst over shotgun as it is
vale pecan
burst needs more ammo and damge
damage*
nothing too big
but enough to make it relevant
or at least add more hallways that makes burst sentry > shotgun
atomic escarp
I can see burst being very powerful at choke points.
vale pecan
cause most sentry areas have a good flank spot for shotgun sentry
atomic escarp
If they all run straight with burst having some higher height.
vale pecan
the burst has horrid ammo consumption
atomic escarp
the burst has horrid ammo consumption
That's the main reason why I don't take it.
vale pecan
i was duoing A1 when it came out and had 87% on the sentry during the first alarm door, and after about 30 seconds it went to ~3-0% ammo
after 1 wave of enemies, maybe two
while the shotgun could easily double that
mighty pond
It definitely does, I can't deny that. Doing B1 someone had a full one and it went from full to empty just doing one alarm sequence
mortal granite
how about single fire sentry
mighty pond
Sad times
vale pecan
no
mortal granite
burst cause a lot of ammo waste
vale pecan
i feel like they should make it full auto but add more ammo
mortal granite
4 burst and only 2 hit
vale pecan
also dont let it shoot dead enemies
atomic escarp
how about single fire sentry
That would furfill the role of the SS.
mortal granite
i don't thing full auto gonna be a thing
mortal granite
the ammo will instantly get deleted
atomic escarp
I feel like it will be a staggering type sentry.
vale pecan
well, they should add more ammo and damage to it still
it is supposed to be
but i have had better success just using 2 shotties instead
atomic escarp
Imagine if the burst was proper, proper staggering type. The amount of flexibility on the team and the support it would provide would be nice.
mortal granite
full auto are just burst without delay
hexed vapor
Shotgun used to be the doing 90 to possibly 120 or 150 damage. Now, it should consistently be 60.
vale pecan
ooo
have burst sentries actively hit heads
and have a bit of a better multiplier on it or something
mortal granite
that's another problem
because all sentry only go for the head
all of their shot
vale pecan
do they now
vale pecan
well, the tracking could be worked on with that
atomic escarp
There's a spot on D1 at the end Alarm spot. It littrerly shows the ppwere of the burst sentry if used correctly, it took out 2 waves of enemies before they broke which SS can't do. It's really important for them to hit heads.
vale pecan
which alarm door
the last one?
the second one?
the warden door?
cause the last one
was easy peasy
with two SS
mortal granite
the last one is normal scan
vale pecan
last alarm
mortal granite
the one before that
vale pecan
the 6x big scan
vale pecan
with a split big for final
mortal granite
that one
vale pecan
that was uber easy
vale pecan
we didnt, I dont think
mortal granite
well
vale pecan
I dont think we even brought cfoam
mortal granite
i can just c foam that one door
vale pecan
we had 1 or two nades maybe
mortal granite
and the rest can scan
0 bullet used
0 hp lost
0 enemy got in
ANY sentry can do the job
vale pecan
tf does that mean
atomic escarp
Burst just isn't worth it
vale pecan
yeah
mortal granite
and hit the ceiling instead
mortal granite
that's why single shot is better
atomic escarp
If they don't buff, they might as well get rid of it.
mortal granite
burst always miss a couple
atomic escarp
It's just not viable now
vale pecan
and shoots at ones not in range
vale pecan
its been like that for a while
mortal granite
bc MAH TURRET
mortal granite
i think if they remove SS
atomic escarp
I think they're going to remove the SS for R4 and buff the burst to see how much needed and well of I suppose.
mortal granite
they will be force to use the burst
vale pecan
but rundown specific doesnt mean that they are going to 100% replace it
which we saw from R2 -> R3
glass sundial
Suggestion: add all my suggestions in gtfo-game-suggestions because they're all good, change my mind
glass sundial
MG should've had way less ammo capacity