for the people starting to play rundown 2
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
arctic sparrow
I don't think that's a valid reason to almost blatantly reuse the same expeditions.
The only things that changed were it's easier and a couple of the rooms got changed out.
pulsar shuttle
understandable for some people
arctic sparrow
This rundown I've just been disappointed in how short it is.
arctic sparrow
And D1 having the new environment isn't helped by the fact that it's an endless alarm one.
pulsar shuttle
its not an endless alarm
arctic sparrow
For most of it, it is.
arctic sparrow
I know, but the majority of the expedition, it is an endless alarm.
pulsar shuttle
i wish it was a little harder though
arctic sparrow
And it sucks because I want to explore and see the new environment,
But no time if you're getting slaughtered constantly every wave.
pulsar shuttle
just explore after getting rid of the alarm hueh
arctic sparrow
I just wish there were maybe 2 or 3 more expeditions.
mellow creek
to substain
arctic sparrow
The thing is, you need enough content to keep people around until the next rundown.
You need enough content and things to do in order to justify to a player why they should wait 3-4 months for another rundown.
Now that I'll probably finish D1 this week or so, what else is there for me to do until the next rundown is made?
pulsar shuttle
playing d1 until the next rundown appears or c1 for nostalgia
or helping newer players
i find that to be fun
arctic sparrow
I kind of hate D1 because it's an endless alarm for most of the level,
pulsar shuttle
did you hate C2 in the previous rundown/
rancid gate
or playing through c1 with new people to spook them
arctic sparrow
I hated C2.
pulsar shuttle
i really liked that level
arctic sparrow
It's one of those missions where it's cool to play the first time, but not fun to do it over and over again.
arctic sparrow
A2 and A3 should have been completely different.
It just kind of angers me because I was very excited to see lab themed expeditions, but then get massively disappointed when not even half of the rundown uses it.
nocturne flax
its part 1
pulsar shuttle
b2 is only a small part really
nocturne flax
part 2 its where the juice its going to be
nocturne flax
i just love how in d1 ||we just left the baby there like nothing||
pulsar shuttle
baby down
arctic sparrow
I mean, is rundown 4 being actively worked on now or are they taking a vacation for a month like everyone has been saying so far?
arctic sparrow
Great.
pulsar shuttle
as d1 bugs make the level almost obsolete
nocturne flax
T E L E P O R T I NG
pulsar shuttle
im lucky that my 2cd attempt we had no bugs
nocturne flax
G I A N T S
pulsar shuttle
eh
nocturne flax
S P E E D G I A N T S
arctic sparrow
Enemies spawn right in front of you sometimes.
nocturne flax
i dont know about you but i had the wackiest d1 playtrough ever then
pulsar shuttle
instead of crapy ones
arctic sparrow
I kind of wish they'd hide how the enemies spawn.
arctic sparrow
Like I'd prefer they all drop down from somewhere like a ventilation duct or something.
weak anvil
Any tips for R3A3? We get to the last door and just get fucked
obtuse surge
you die at the alarm door?
lilac jackal
cry or somethin
forest horizon
keep the bottom door open, close all the other doors
put sentries there
Also @arctic sparrow considering how R3 uses no new mechanics and almost no new environments for the majority of the rundown, its very likely that R3 is a stopgap for new content. Next rundown is likely to come out sooner rather than later.
Would not be surprised if we start getting hints at the new rundown a month from now
arctic sparrow
I just wish that when a new environment is advertised and marketed for the next rundown, use it.
Technically 2.
No, 2.
timid gale
poppin in, cfoaming Birthers with a cfoam launcher costs you 17 ammo.
arctic sparrow
@atomic escarp yes, but that doesn't count.
forest horizon
That annoys me as well. But its inevitable that they'll reuse content
arctic sparrow
I'm just more annoyed that A2 and A3 are basically D1 and D2 with almost no difference besides easier difficulty and slightly different room layout.
forest horizon
Imo C1 and D1 make up a lot for how boring a lot of the beginning levels are
arctic sparrow
I'm thinking the whole rundown would be made much better if for example,
The A tier expeditions are spent preparing the players for getting to the lab,
And then the remaining expeditions are in the lab.
forest horizon
I think the problem is the devs don't want to reveal all the content they've made in part 1
arctic sparrow
Where did they say this was Part 1?
forest horizon
So they made A2, A3, B1 and to some extent B2 for padding
Could have sworn it was mentioned somewhere
arctic sparrow
Am I missing something? Was it explicitly said somewhere that this rundown is part 1 of new content?
obtuse surge
there's nothing wrong with a reactor level being present in each rundown
R1C1 R2D2 R3A3
devout river
I do not think they ever said this was part 1 of new content
obtuse surge
in rundown 1 it was bad because it was pretty much entirely shooting
It was heavily improved in rundown 2 to where it served a nice balance
There wasn't much you could do to make that kind of level better
The current reactor level is also very well designed
forest horizon
I know a few bug hunters and remember seeing "The Vessel, part 1" in the description where it says what level they are doing
obtuse surge
The difference is that it's moved to A tier
arctic sparrow
I mean, I hated D2 and A3 because I feel both expeditions rush the player too quickly to try and find the code in time somewhere on the correct terminal.
obtuse surge
meaning it serves no challenge to an experienced player
devout river
Yes the level name was the vessel part 1
arctic sparrow
If a new environment is made, I would like to see it used in at least half the rundown.
mossy yoke
So each room is what's called a "tile" and tiles are put together to create zones. Some environments can intertwine, so are separate. Creating an entire new environment of enough tiles is a lot of work, especially bug fixing various tile issues like cheese and safe spots. As time progresses more tiles will be created so that it adds more variety and areas become larger. so when we revisit an area like the lab, we have more available
arctic sparrow
I just wish the rundown was a bit longer, like 8 or 10 expeditions and the lab environment used a bit more.
mossy yoke
they didn't have as much time making R3 as making the other rundowns
so it ended up being a bit shorter. some will be shorter, some will be longer.
forest horizon
If this is part 1, then its assured they are definitely already working on R4
mossy yoke
it'll improve as they create more stuff
forest horizon
Especially considering that its short
arctic sparrow
I also kind of hope rewards or achievements will be next.
I want some kind of incentive to go through the grueling 50+ attempts I did on C1 in R2.
forest horizon
I do feel a similar way
obtuse surge
Are our completions from previous rundowns being saved?
arctic sparrow
Even achievements would have at least some incentive.
forest horizon
But its whatever, they are still making new content
mossy yoke
Are our completions from previous rundowns being saved?
@obtuse surge yes
mossy yoke
funny thing, I'm actually working on creating a bunch of achievements. i have a lot of fun and interesting ones on my list. can't say when it would get used, but i do have stuff for them
arctic sparrow
What would rewards look like?
Weapon upgrades? Cosmetic stuff?
And I want the host to be able to choose their character.
forest horizon
I would not mind the next rundown taking 4 or 5 months if they added progression and matchmaking
arctic sparrow
I don't like that the host character looks like they're wearing shorts under skin tight jeans with tennis shoes.
obtuse surge
pls bring back machinepistol/gun for R4 
frank mauve
Speaking of achievements, whats up with the steam cards?
obtuse surge
imagine the machinepistol when being swarmed by the babies
arctic sparrow
Machine Pistol is kind of garbage for range outside of breathing distance.
forest horizon
Bab generator would get blown away
obtuse surge
short range combat works just fine on most enemies
arctic sparrow
Is there no way to prevent the mother enemy from spawning smaller enemies?
obtuse surge
kill it fast enough
forest horizon
Cfoamz
obtuse surge
c foam can help
arctic sparrow
A few people told me if you're not within line of sight, it doesn't spawn enemies.
arctic sparrow
Does anyone else notice the strikers are more accurate now?
forest horizon
They react faster
arctic sparrow
I still wish there was collision on enemies.
Because I don't want to aim my weapon inside my chest to try and find the one striker.
atomic escarp
I actually like the change to kiting (Although I know it was unitentinal)
forest horizon
Not sure how they would add collision and it not being janky
atomic escarp
I think collision is a bad idea, I really dislike it.
Like you said Neon, it just would feel cleanly.
forest horizon
Hm
atomic escarp
I think they may have changed it because people loved the new labs.
mossy yoke
The names were placeholders before..
forest horizon
Well then just based on the lack of lab areas makes me think there is more lab to come
obtuse surge
there's more of all environments to come 👀
atomic escarp
Well then just based on the lack of lab areas makes me think there is more lab to come.
I can't wait for them to combine several different areas. I fucking love the lab. It's amazing.
devout river
Yep
forest horizon
The lab brings so much story to the table that its staggering
devout river
the lab is definitely the coolest environment so far
arctic sparrow
I want enemies bursting out of the test tubes.
The only other environment I can think of is living quarters perhaps.
Residential areas.
forest horizon
What if the final boss is the warden
sick hornet
is there a way to only get 1 mother on D1 or is it random
arctic sparrow
Do you guys think it is the same mother or are there multiple ones?
forest horizon
Its definitely not the same
obtuse surge
heard people say you can prevent that D1 bug by restarting your game each time you drop again
forest horizon
esp considering the super sized crabzilla at the end
frank mauve
wait you're only supposed to get one?
i've fought 2 each time
after the baby gets a tattoo
forest horizon
There are 2
obtuse surge
if you get more, it's a bug
forest horizon
Mini boss and big bertha
obtuse surge
ye
arctic sparrow
What happens to the thing after imprinting it?
forest horizon
When I did D1 we got it first try and only saw one after inserting the bab into the brain machine
obtuse surge
forward extraction, you leave it there @arctic sparrow
forest horizon
Like you did repeated attemots
arctic sparrow
Yea, but what happens to it?
pliant shard
we dont know
pliant shard
Reading from the a1, b2, and d1 mission it seems that you are reviving it
and extracting data
obtuse surge
yes neon
arctic sparrow
But C1 you get a different HSU sample.
forest horizon
You are using it to connect to something call the Neural Link system
arctic sparrow
And I assume D1 is imprinting that DNA onto it?
forest horizon
Yes
arctic sparrow
Has anyone read the info on the HSU when querying it?
Is it of any importance to whose DNA is being taken?
forest horizon
I actually forgot to do this when I did C1 today fug
arctic sparrow
I am wondering if it's the same DNA every time or if it's a different name like other expeditions.
obtuse surge
hmm
pliant shard
for c1?
arctic sparrow
I'm going into C1 right now and just sneaking to the terminal to check the HSU query.
And then I'll do it twice to see if it randomizes it like I'm expecting it to.
pliant shard
the 2 completions I had we had a female adult
forest horizon
Hm
arctic sparrow
Making more mother enemies?
forest horizon
Touch it
arctic sparrow
Is the DNA of the neonate known when you took it in E1?
pliant shard
after you depressurize it in a1 you can see some data on the actual neonate
arctic sparrow
I got an adult male when I checked C1 first time.
atomic escarp
heard people say you can prevent that D1 bug by restarting your game each time you drop again
I've tried. It works although it only reduces the amount that spawn. For example, it prevents like 4 spawning compare to 2 it bugs.
arctic sparrow
What exactly is the Complex environment?
forest horizon
You mean the refinery?
arctic sparrow
Adult female the second time, so yea, it's randomized.
obtuse surge
all of the stats it shows
arctic sparrow
The weirdest last name I've seen ever though on the 2nd try.
atomic escarp
I killed the ||The boss mother in 10 secs||.
arctic sparrow
"Villalobos"
forest horizon
So probably it doesn't need to be the same person in order to get a good sample
arctic sparrow
I just want to know what happens after the HSU sample is imprinted on the neonate.
After D1 ends, the neonate transforms into a mutated form of the DNA it was given?
obtuse surge
it's interesting how the status of the hsu will be malfunctioning sometimes
arctic sparrow
Is the HSU sample in C1 of the Warden or is that highly unlikely?
obtuse surge
so we're just grabbing broken stuff
forest horizon
The warden is just a mostly automated prisoner deployment system
arctic sparrow
Is it for sure that it is an AI?
forest horizon
Its speculation
But way more likely than an AI
Since there is nothing in game to suggest that
arctic sparrow
Is the Warden still an alive entity or is it dead and all the transmissions and messages are prerecorded?
forest horizon
Also the momma crabzilla needs to be tougher imo or need a second phase
That boss music is too good for such a short fight
arctic sparrow
What are inside the pink blob things? Are they more mutated entities?
forest horizon
Probably created by the berthas
arctic sparrow
Are they basically eggs then?
forest horizon
I would assume so, yes
The boss baby generators probably lay those baby sleepers as eggs and the only reason it births undeveloped sleepers is to defend itself
arctic sparrow
My other theory is that when humans are confronted and attacked by the enemies, the enemies then carry the fallen humans to the mother enemies to use as another host to mutate the humans into one of them?
forest horizon
Based on C1, it probably just needs biomass to create more of itself
arctic sparrow
What created the Chargers?
Since they seem much more mutated and less humanlike than the other enemies.
forest horizon
Could be an entity we haven't seen yet
One that controls the birthers and guides the mutation of certain sleepers to defend certain places
arctic sparrow
Plot twist, all the enemies are humans wearing very elaborate and realistic costumes.
forest horizon
Ludvig had us fooled
devout river
also I dont know if it has been explained yet but how did shadows become shadows?
glass sierra
no-one knows
devout river
I mean maybe
I dont think it has ever been said whether or not its an actual person or not
in the video where they explain the rundown they just call it an entity I think
jolly raven
Like D1, A2 doesn't have fog turbine, yes?
mild sonnet
Ayy is it true that the dark spikey guys from the original C2 are in this rundown??
arctic sparrow
I'm confused because in the trailers and stuff talking about the game before the release, it says the prisoners are looking for artifacts.
atomic escarp
It'll scream at you so you know when they're back
arctic sparrow
But now it's doing stuff for The Warden.
I could have sworn it said somewhere about artifacts.
@atomic escarp it says it on the store page description:
"Players get to play as a team of prisoners, forced to explore and extract valuable artifacts from a vast underground complex that has been overrun by terrifying creatures."
desert crescent
Why do they even have fog turbines and repliers... In a normal mine or excavation site there is no fog.....
Ah yes... a really moist cave
Yes but there is a set of cords
in the one video
Unless there is another thing i missed that says the mines are some where else
21°08'57"N 89°29'32"W
but cave fog surely isnt that thick to worry about right?
like irl....
rust maybe..
I dont think you would have a machine that large or fog repliers all over the facility just for some common fog....
ok how can fog be 1km below ground
D1 is about km below ground
and for every km you go down under earth surface it get 35 C hotter
let me rephrase that.... "for every 1k you go down under earth... the temp rises 35'C
one of the deepest mines which is "Mponeng Gold Mine" goes 4km below ground and the rock reaches 66'C
its moist but not foggy
the rocks are moist and there is minimal water in the air
maybe.. though i've never seen any water ingame
regal oar
does the fog ever go away in b2 (like powering all the generators)?
livid moat
When you put a cell in, watch the extraction room and find out. :)
regal oar
o oki
burnt goblet
devout river
Wait every time you put a cell in fog went away I did not even notice that lol
I just thought it all went away at once after you put all of them in
hexed vapor
The only generators that affect the fog level are the ones tied to gen clusters
None of the others matter.
@livid moat Wrong level
livid moat
Oh rip didn't pay attention
hexed vapor
@regal oar The fog is always there on B2
Fyi, it seems like the yellow syringe multiplier varies
It's sometimes less than 3x, and supposedly it can be more.
If you use it on a titan striker, go for occiput.
strong basin
anyone reached to D1 ?😛
ripe musk
yep
hexed vapor
It's been beaten several times, yah.
atomic escarp
Yeah, it's easy.
strong basin
righttt it's easy
atomic escarp
Flex much
hexed vapor
It's kind of hard kind of easy.
strong basin
it's just part 1 of the rundown 😂
ripe musk
.
ripe musk
Its p easy but I haven't had luck with teams
strong basin
idk i watched the video and i saw R3 A1 or A2 the vessel Part 1
ripe musk
huh
atomic escarp
Are you new?
ripe musk
the vessel is the name of the rundown
strong basin
i will show u gimme a sec
hexed vapor
Part 1: R3A1
Part 2: R3B2
Part 3: R3D1
strong basin
Are you new?
@atomic escarp no i played Rundown 2
i reached to last level but me and my friend didnt complete it bcz we didnt have time 😦
atomic escarp
R2 was the shit in terms of diff spikes pre nerf
hexed vapor
I think the enemy speed might be obviously increased, easily demonstrated by titan strikers.
Like, they used to fast walk
Now they fast walk.
Like, holy shit.
If you're not in the room with them they get to you so quick.
strong basin
ohh yeaa 😂
hexed vapor
Are there any alpha players left around?
strong basin
man in C1 there is a door when you open it you hear very loud sound of monster that scared shit out of me 🤣
hexed vapor
I think that C1 is a throwback to an alpha level, which would make sense considering it uses zones 12-20.
honest mortar
them moving faster is unintentional but we are monitoring feedback on opinions on it to see whether people like the change or not.
@mossy yoke
hexed vapor
And those were the alpha zones.
mossy yoke
I think that C1 is a throwback to an alpha level, which would make sense considering it uses zones 12-20.
@hexed vapor I think you're the first person that I've seen realize it's a homage to the Alpha level
strong basin
no no
it's taking a simple of the experiment that they were working on the monsters so that sample we will use it on the baby 😂 that what i assumed
hexed vapor
Holy shit, it is the alpha level https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI_k4fWFHmA
atomic escarp
I thought it was similar to R1C2
atomic escarp
I loved it. This Rundown I did in 2 days without even trying which saddens me. I'm actually really wishing they have an "Easy/hard" version of each run.
devout river
This will be good practice so that when they do another really hard rundown I may be able to get far in it
They said that they will make like hard versions later I think
atomic escarp
E1 made people practically vetrens at the game.
devout river
Like things you can toggle to make the game harder
strong basin
this rundown is good for new players
atomic escarp
I'm hoping.
devout river
Well im not new but I never got very far in previous rundowns
atomic escarp
this rundown is good for new players
@strong basin
Perfect for new players without a doubt.
hexed vapor
@mossy yoke Just noticed it mentioned the "ALPHA protocol" in the mission text, and I'd already seen some alpha footage showing zones with the same numbers (12 is the one I remembered specifically).
Took a bit to click.
mossy yoke
yeah most of the map layout is the same up until the fog zone, from there is starts changing up a bit, but tbh i kinda like that as you don't fully realize it right away
hexed vapor
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHD
devout river
Sounds cool
atomic escarp
How quick have you killed the D1 boss?
Well, I've kill it in 10 seconds.
That's super quick
pliant shard
Yeah there’s a strat where you can charge it and kill it in 7-15 seconds
There’s a gap between when warden door is slightly opening that you can charge it and get super close before it wakes up
atomic escarp
There's also a strat where you 2 people use snipers and and shoot burst cannons at it. Right when you can see the door. It was easy.
Best 10 seconds of my life.
atomic escarp
I can't remember personally, too long ago for me.
mortal granite
i played that map for so long
i even went it solo it
make it through the first alarm
but too dumb to kite
atomic escarp
Is that the reactor wave defense one?
atomic escarp
Is that the R1 you are talking about?
mortal granite
it's from the Alpha version map
atomic escarp
The before release?
mortal granite
ye
hexed vapor
Yep.
atomic escarp
Uhhh
mortal granite
before beta
atomic escarp
Took me 6 hours to do R1A1 💪
Best feeling ever.
But not when the scout fucks you up.
☺️. = 😟
[scout not awoken]|[Scout is awoken]
I kill scouts, not look at them ;)
like, instead of it ducking and activating it, sometimes it will stand up straight then the tentacles will come from like under it
If that's true, that's because you could get under the scout very close to it and not awake it up. Plant did that quite a bit
pliant shard
like, instead of it ducking and activating it, sometimes it will stand up straight then the tentacles will come from like under it
@atomic escarp that happened last rundown too
silk arch
How does one effectively kill spider thing
mortal granite
Bullets
silk arch
on the tumor things?
mortal granite
Blood bubbles
yes
combat shotgun seems to be very effective in close range
or Sniper in long range
take us about 2 combat shotgun constantly shoot at it non-stop
killed it in 2 seconds B2
sly dust
we finished a3 with 21 bullets between all of us, inc. shotgun sentries
atomic escarp
nice
sly dust
i was completely out
another member had 1 revolver shot
someone had 1 shotgun and 12 carbine
its was messy as all hell
obtuse surge
there's a very nice path you can make the enemies take on A3
that'll make it incredibly simple to gun them down
knowing where enemies spawn and understanding how their pathing works, using that to your advantage shows you why A3 is on the A tier
it gives you enough resources to:
- miss a bunch of resources (new players will likely not use the terminal to ping resources most the time)
- miss a bunch of your shots
- survive with a horrible setup (stacked sentries, sentries in places where they won't hit anything, sentries that don't use the back multi)
- alert sleepers
I like that the reactor level is on the A tier so newer players get to experience it, but at the same time I'd like it to be up higher so it forms a challenge. Really liked R2D2 (which still had room for error but having people in your squad with bad gunplay would be very noticeable and likely be an issue)
somber ocean
Agreed, timed rooms are great at deeper tiers
obtuse surge
I did hear people complain about A3 because of those timers
frail elbow
Lmao
obtuse surge
Might possibly be because at the A tier you are not at all ready to fast stealth rooms
As well as having to figure out terminals
somber ocean
There is enough ammo to half stealth/shoot the rest
obtuse surge
ye
frail elbow
I did D2 so many times A3 was a cakewalk 😢
obtuse surge
I'm just imagining a lot of teams with new players, attempting to stealth very slowly
Even if there's barely anything/they have a lot of resources
frail elbow
I like that they implemented a middle ground for these levels tho
obtuse surge
The previous levels kind of teach you that stealth is important
frail elbow
The A have plenty of variety
frail elbow
Yeah they've shorten the lengths too overall which is positive
But more to do in that short time so it's not boring
atomic escarp
I don't really have a favourite Rundown because there are maps I like and dislike in all of them.
atomic escarp
Never heard of that before.
sudden zenith
final aspen
I haven't gotten on in a while, can someone tell me what the hel guns are, and what they do?
final aspen
oooooo I see
chrome dagger
Whats the best way to defeat the baby spawn enemy
atomic escarp
Or snipe it which ever you prefer
chrome dagger
okay
atomic escarp
on the blobs on it <- this
atomic escarp
Helps with ammo conservation but can get you trouble since it spawns babies that run at mach speeds
chrome dagger
lol yeah
lilac hatch
HIT THE BELLY! lol sniper was very helpful and shotfun was good
sorry sorry! shot gun
frail elbow
Sniper 🙏
hexed vapor
@lilac hatch Belly is not a weak point FYI
harsh pelican
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUB02cMm7LQ
Boss music posted 
frail elbow
||My audio was glitched and the alarm kept running the whole time||
atomic escarp
everyone dies in the end
bronze coral
are we getting any more levels this rundown?
glass sierra
Not for this rundown, no
bronze coral
as there's no locked rundowns
aww danm 😦
hopefully doesn't go for too long then
really enjoyed D1 and C1
glass sierra
maybe in the future we’ll have some more warden restriction levels
bronze coral
aye
after last rundown and doing E1, anything before the C levels feels to cheesy lol
was hoping for more C-E levels
or better yet
an F for fucked level 😄
glass sierra
I think a lot of the community complained that the last rundown was a little too hard, and the devs might have wanted to give out another more introductory rundown
bronze coral
aye defs good
for getting newer people into the game
i guess just hard unless u make a huge rundown
to have a good balance of easy for newer people and then later WTF levels
but I imagine the new lab assets and design and testing also took abit of time aswell
so understandable
and msuic, etc
glass sierra
I mean, feels like they have a lot in the works under the surface
calm vessel
D1 was so pretty
glass sierra
At least, there’s a lot of more new stuff too
bronze coral
Like can tell a decent chunk of work on the actual core of the game more so then just pumping new levels
calm vessel
Syringes felt really niche
frail elbow
The burnout on players was pretty brutal on the last rundown
calm vessel
E1 was bad level design
frail elbow
C and D sections made lots of folks give up
atomic escarp
Cs and Ds were fine for me
calm vessel
I preferred r3d1 style of panic and calm style map
bronze coral
E1 was ....i liked the difficulty, I didnt like how much it sorta relied on kiting unless you used the correct weapons
glass sierra
like, audio logs, birther, baby sleepers, Hsu stuff, as well as just general improvements & working on mm like they say they are
calm vessel
^
bronze coral
D1 was just tedious after first few times with fog
glass sierra
E1 was too reliant on kiting
bronze coral
but R3d1 I love overall, the pacing is brilliant
calm vessel
E1 was reliant on host
frail elbow
^
calm vessel
And many other things
glass sierra
It was a fun mission
glass sierra
I just didn’t like that both times I tried it we just didn’t have enough go juice for the last 100 meters
yeah, for sure
bronze coral
R2ds1 was pretty much the only map I couldnt enjoy redoing
atomic escarp
C1 was scout practice heaven IMO
calm vessel
Would rather it be like r3d1
bronze coral
simply cause like, fog is fine, but when its just non stop fog, no way around it it gets sorta annoying
frail elbow
It was pretty soul crushing for c1
calm vessel
I don’t like the boring first half
glass sierra
same with b1 this rundown @blender
calm vessel
That takes so long to do
frail elbow
D2 was the best by far last run imo
bronze coral
I really hope we get a CCing mob like L4D hunter or something to nerf the kite meta
frail elbow
There was tangible feeling of getting better everytime
bronze coral
Birther is good for people who try to run, but also to easy to instagib
frail elbow
Getting a little farther
bronze coral
I feel like that was same with R3D1 in terms of improving every run
frail elbow
Yeh
bronze coral
whereas E1 just felt like smashing head into a wall
for the first few runs
till you realised you had to kite
then suddenly you were god
frail elbow
If you fucked up you knew quickly
glass sierra
yeah you have to hunker down in a crossfire spot for the birther
frail elbow
E1 was like
bronze coral
we just rush birther, 1 crouches infront and gibs babies with combo shotgun or smg
frail elbow
2 hours later you would know if rng was okay with you finishing
calm vessel
E1 shouldn’t be relying on kiting if the devs don’t want it 
bronze coral
first time we fought her she bugged out and was invunerable
so we thought it was like some Alien isolation shit where ur supposed to run lmao
and everyone just split up and ran away
needless to say we were hunted down by babies
frail elbow
Lol
calm vessel
She’s immune from certain angles
bronze coral
yeah it wasnt that we werent hitting right spot
frail elbow
We figured out you can mountain goat up the sacs on the walls in certain areas
bronze coral
like we had 4 people with 80/80 ammo, 2 80 sentries and 5 ammo charges
every single bit of it was into the sacs
with red hit markers
they just never popped
bronze coral
yeah pre much
bronze coral
soon as the ammo ran away we ran
but then 2nd time
we just rushed her using strat mentioned above
and was like cheese
same as queen
frail elbow
We had a choke that we would kill all babies in then rush out and poke her when she wasn't farting out new ones
bronze coral
yeah, like once you stop being scared of her and just be aggressive
they're alot easier
c1 was also really fun opening that door, but disappointing it was just sleeping chargers
frail elbow
That last blood door tho holy fuck
glass sierra
the c-foaming and focus fire is too mean tho
bronze coral
i was expecting some giant ass mega monster
frail elbow
Yeah
bronze coral
dont even really use c-foam after a few runs tbh
and mines on last blood door
op af
i loved the feeling of opening it and seeing a huge swarm tho
but its one of those things again where when you know striker mechanics etc
its too easy to get around
frail elbow
Yeah we just picked it apart from the last room as they came in
bronze coral
like you could hammer the whole door wave cause of the room your given to kite in
with all them pilliars
aye
we just mined, open door, go to those balcony areas
frail elbow
Bullpup 🙏
bronze coral
and just sat there funneling in stairway
frail elbow
Lol yeah
bronze coral
S'why i hope we sorta see more dynamic mobs
like as memey as l4d is, thats what made the specials good
had to react to what they did
like spitter cant camp same spot
hunter cant just kite and split up
etc
s'what i'd like to see alittle bit more
make fights abit more dynamic
and the need to adapt
cause currently its mostly just planning op op
slender finch
whats up with the baby lol
vale pecan
ok
I have a question
when are they planning on putting in a patch that doc was talking about in terms of enemies being too fast
also another question is
are they gonna fix the scope
because
the crosshairs on stuff like snipers and combat shotguns
are
slightly off
and its bugging the hell out of me
vale pecan
horizontally
barely
thats why when you noscope
it is slightly to the right of where you aim
vale pecan
that needs a fix
bronze coral
scope was probably dont notice cause i dont take alot of long shots
bronze coral
fair, havent used that one yet
i tend to be an smg/pistol boi
dmr still feels to weak imho
the fact it cant one shot headshot small strikers at close range tilts me
vale pecan
needs therm sight or something
bronze coral
like if the rifle is a double tap headshot on small strikers
surely the dmr should be one
bronze coral
yeah a more refined scope would be nice too
i'd much rather your standard chevron reticle
then the bloody horiz lines
rare crane
its supposed to
rare crane
devs saw R2 was too hard for some players
besides early access is their time to configure and tune the game
rare crane
D2
zenith crystal
D2 was the best
rare crane
any reactor map on any rundown deserves to fucking rot in hell
rare crane
so unfun
rare crane
its just lmao shoot guns then run
vale geyser
imo
rare crane
so boring
vale geyser
also
zenith crystal
what was d1 again
vale geyser
the 8 scouts inn 1 room : D
what was d1 again
@zenith crystal the generator cluster
twas my fav
rare crane
same
vale geyser
E1 was ez till the full time alarm door
zenith crystal
there was a spot in e1 where you couldnt get hit
austere dagger
what do u do against those new mobs
zenith crystal
and you could also kill them
austere dagger
i shot it like 15 times with a shotgun
rare crane
uhmm
zenith crystal
@austere dagger The little ones?
rare crane
get your team to shoot
austere dagger
the mother
vale geyser
there was a spot in e1 where you couldnt get hit
@zenith crystal there is many such spots in every mapp lol
zenith crystal
shoot its back
austere dagger
the little ones die in 1 hit
zenith crystal
the sacks
rare crane
stop saying shoot its back
vale geyser
there is one at the B2 mother area too
rare crane
shoot the tumours
zenith crystal
IMMMM SORRRRYYYYYY
vale geyser
?
livid moat
Shoot the biomass
rare crane
shoot
livid moat
The delicious biomass
rare crane
@vestal mountain
shoot your teammates
zenith crystal
shoot its baby makers
glass sierra
shoot docred
rare crane
lmao she went offline just as i pinged
glass sierra
lol
austere dagger
well i started the encoutner shootign it's back
and it got mad and startign pooping out babies
and then it ran
and pooped out more babies
livid moat
If someone has an automatic, when you hear her start to miracle of life all over the place just aim at her booty
They all spawn in the same place and she's lifted off the ground so you can just aim under her and clear the whole wave
vale geyser
i sit at its ass ready to shoot its babies sooon as they come out
with shotgun(combat)
vestal mountain
Did I hear taking the mother's side and shooting the teammates instead so you and her can raise the neonate in peace? @rare crane
livid moat
Ye. I don't even think you need a specific angle
rare crane
Rav what
livid moat
Oho dang, a triste
glass sierra
Sleeper rights advocate
livid moat
What sordid little love triangle
rare crane
nuuu
glass sierra
that’s what I wanted it to be
frank mauve
@vale geyser Mother?
vale geyser
yea
harsh pelican
@vale geyser
https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/Mother
gotta get a good image of the big one in D1, it appears to have... horns?
or two giant fleshy ribcages that mimic horns
frank mauve
Yeah next run I plan to try and get good shots of it
vale geyser
thnx
rare crane
they are two different things though
its gotta be Big Mother
or something like that
both have totally different healthpools
i wanted to say that warden
harsh pelican
seems a bit redundant to have a different page when they're functionally the same enemy
glass sierra
Yeah, should be done soon
rare crane
also the birther tank takes two full charges of c-foam
maybe three
just takes more than one
verbal niche
i've noticed that the mother enemy takes 1-3 c-foam charges to freeze
verbal niche
wait
rare crane
takes a few full charges
verbal niche
im not that deep
glass sierra
oh shit
rare crane
then why are you in spoiler chat
verbal niche
just got passed d
glass sierra
gg hacket
frank mauve
one full c-foam charge should freeze her, i believe it depends on your angle
rare crane
not the birther tank
frank mauve
yes i know, the one in b2
rare crane
it doesnt even depend on you're angle what
frank mauve
i've seen people c-foam them and it doesnt freeze her, maybe weren't aiming right idk
rare crane
if this is some stupid "Kneecaps do more damage than leg" i swear to god
verbal niche
they dont
verbal niche
break their knees!
frank mauve
i haven't been the one to c-foam her so i have no clue, i usually just 870 her and tell others to do it
i'll check it out next time
verbal niche
what level is that?
frank mauve
nah not really lol
verbal niche
its actually a good challenge for people just starting the game
frank mauve
i played too much of the real ones last rundown so they were too boring for me
but yeah, i guess they're good for new people
rare crane
i wish reactor levels get scrapped ngl
frank mauve
yeah this reactor level is just boring
rare crane
all of them are
frank mauve
literally just stand in once spot and only move my mouse is any
zenith crystal
https://imgur.com/a/Dt8fbkK From The front
rare crane
then run for a bit maybe crouch
frank mauve
i personally really enjoyed d2 and all the running around
frank mauve
i guess, but i found it cool. nice change of pace for a little bit
zenith crystal
Who else has photo 18
its a background
its the rare one
oof
idk someone just gave me one
frank mauve
how do you get any of them?
zenith crystal
steam market
frank mauve
oh
frank mauve
level up the badge how?
frank mauve
ah, new to steam so i was wondering all about it
zenith crystal
then get another full set of cards
i have level 5 reg badge but not foil
i dont know if i want to keep foil cards or make the badge
it says on it
also its silver looking
you can tell the difference on the site i linked
harsh pelican
Those are some nice Steam backgrounds
zenith crystal
yea
harsh pelican
would make for a good custom background for the game's library page too.
zenith crystal
i honestly want to make it my desktop background
the booster pack?
foil?
it does
i think
thats what it says
should i make the foil badge or just keep the cards
rare crane
i can make the foil badge too
i got three foil cards from default
and two different foil from the booster pack i jsut got
zenith crystal
i dont realkly like the badge and the price might go up over time
rare crane
so lmao gg ez
zenith crystal
the level 5 badge looks much cooler in my opinion
zenith crystal
...
zenith crystal
yo
rare crane
is there gonna be some extremely high tier equipment thats an AOE that does small increments of dmg to slepers
rare crane
then why are the tendrils iridescent blue and coming from their shoulder
just some guy vibin
zenith crystal
yea
zenith crystal
nice
rare crane
so poggies? i guess
zenith crystal
rare though
rare crane
fuck it ima sell my staandard cards
rare crane
oh wait
no
im dumb
i went to craft and it said i couldnt
turns out my shooter one is a standard card too
im an idiot
rare crane
welp time to wait and see if my last card drop is gucci
which it isnt
wait no
i mean booster
zenith crystal
are you going to make the foil badge
zenith crystal
i guess why not
novel tree
hey how does one kill the spider thing in r2b2
knotty onyx
3 times we've made it to the alarm door of A3 and 3 times we've wiped
so frustrating
thankfully it wasn't wasted because i captured a lot of footage of the mines simply not detonating, where do i submit it?
nvm found it 🙂
i'm very salty about mines in this game
shell dagger
mines do almost always explode its just that only the host can/cant see it
shell dagger
some people have a harder time at a game than others
atomic escarp
Do you pick up your sentries (if you're using them) after the reactor waves are done?
shell dagger
yes
so you can use resources faster and save time
if you find a 2 use then you just use it instantly instead of running after teammates
or running back to the sentry
knotty onyx
of course
but it's simply a matter of resources
and also mines absolutely do not almost always explode
i have about 4 hours of footage proving this
i'd say they explode probably about 40-60% of the time
shell dagger
By not exploding do you mean they disappear and no explosion happens or do they stay?
knotty onyx
they stay
i generally have more success with horizontal mines, they explode more often than not
vertical mines simply do not work
atomic escarp
I've had instances where mines do explode and kill enemies just that the explosion particles and sound effect does not play
hexed vapor
They're shaped charges, so vertical mines are, in general, not a good idea.
I don't think I've ever had issues with them not exploding outright, what height are they at?
knotty onyx
inefficiency is not an excuse
in the case of a3 they're placed either in the doorway or at random points between the door and the stacked crates in the corner of the room which is obviously the hole up spot
it's not uncommon for us to finish all the waves and still have most of the mines on the floor
hexed vapor
At what height?
hexed vapor
And are the enemies even running that way?
atomic escarp
Mines' efficiency is at where the player places the mine
knotty onyx
once again
'thats not what they're meant for' is simply not an excuse for them not to work
hexed vapor
The enemy has to walk into the beam
knotty onyx
if they were not 'supposed' to function vertically
then there should be no option to place them vertically
yeah no fucking shit
hexed vapor
A vertical beam isn't going to see shit.
then there should be no option to place them vertically
Bruh.
You can != you should
You're fucking yourself over and then throwing a fit at the game?
knotty onyx
youre contradicting yourself now
the option exists within the constraints of the game to place a mine on the floor, have an enemy walk over the mine, and for it to explode
but it simply does not work in the games i play more often than it does
atomic escarp
You can place mines vertically, they're designed to be placed at any surface
craggy flame
There are instances were you can use vertical mines. You just have to foresee the exact path the enemies are using
hexed vapor
Because they're not walking over them.
atomic escarp
it does not mean you should place them how ever you please if you want to succeed
vertical mines is work for ladder, just sayin
knotty onyx
that is demonstrably false
atomic escarp
There are instances were you can use vertical mines. You just have to foresee the exact path the enemies are using
this
hexed vapor
Can't wait to see what's come of your 10 hours in the game.
atomic escarp
vertical mines will only kill one or two
shell dagger
Horizontal mines are better
knotty onyx
please explain to me how having 10 hours in game means my findings are not relevant
i look forward to hearing it
atomic escarp
also you can kill few sleepers in front of a door by putting mine in other room and didnt alerting the room
hexed vapor
You clearly don't know what you're doing?
knotty onyx
for the third time, i am not arguing about how the mines are meant to be used
i am arguing that they simply are not detonating when they should be
atomic escarp
horizontal mines makes it so that your mine detects them from farther away compared to vertical placements which only explodes vertically
knotty onyx
i actually think i remember you from the alpha
craggy flame
There is no need to make this anymore heated, than it already is.
atomic escarp
For the mine to be efficient the player can angle the mine so that it can kill more sleepers per mine
hexed vapor
Damn, glad you remember me from the alpha I wasn't around for.
craggy flame
chill mates
atomic escarp
Let's keep this discussion on topic
vestal mountain
Demo, please be civil. Avoid calling others clowns and the like. If you feel like someone is getting on your nerves step away for a bit or talk about something else.
knotty onyx
you're absolutely right, admin-san, i'm truly sorry i bothered to engage him, i'll simply block him and move on