#gtfo-lore

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late basalt
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Nope

stone vine
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I had like 7 at one point

late basalt
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But it fit the gameplay. Ie why they kept it later

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I had 3 on my complete run, but later runs with 7+^

fallow canyon
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Was this patched?

late basalt
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It was later fixed to max at 3

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Yeah

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Day one you could have a shit ton

stone vine
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Mhm

late basalt
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But it was mixed. Some had 1 some had 12

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Majority only had 3

stone vine
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Yes we also had the glitch where alarm wouldn’t stop

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Like when u put baby in

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And it just kept spawning waves

late basalt
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Yep

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D1 is a broken level

stone vine
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Yeah that’s how we lost like 10 runs

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Dumb glitches

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Having to restart

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D1 is fun now tho, error alarm atleast

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Rest is too boring

late basalt
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Enough with that shit emote

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Also D1 is tolerable with a decent team

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I just dislike it

stone vine
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Enough with what

late basalt
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But anyways. Scout lore

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I need it

stone vine
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I could pull up a bunch of shit for you but I’m in class atm

late basalt
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Real lore. I’ve seen your stuff

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Also need real gun lore

stone vine
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Eh if anything I’ve made a base of discussion for the chat

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And I’ve provided tons of cited evidence when explaining scientifically probable events

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So, yes, real lore

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And if you want gun lore just talk to derri, we had a gun lore convo yestarday

late basalt
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Again. Shut it with that emote

stone vine
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Oh, thought I was blocked?

late basalt
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Also. There isn’t any real gun lore

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I’m not talking the interview where they used to have scavenged weapons

stone vine
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Well that’s the issue you say you want lore but you aren’t willing to find it

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Go do research

late basalt
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That was the old models with the old intentions

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And u are. I have to click on anything you send

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The current guns don’t have any lore/ backstory to them

stone vine
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Well I’m not gonna stop with the emote

late basalt
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Just the old pre alpha stuff, before they changed design directions

stone vine
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Just so you know

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Well you can speculate and common companies, etc

late basalt
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Well ye, maybe company commercials. Hmm

stone vine
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I can tell you know I’ve looked abt five minutes into guns and managed to make a few speculations

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just like look

late basalt
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Speculation is one thing, I have too

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But any backstory on the company would be nice

stone vine
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Alright we’ll look for company lore mainly then and you can start drawing guns into the picture

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Well

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Not we’ll

late basalt
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And have you found it

stone vine
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Well I did see omneco made both the HEL guns and some sort of toxic gas correct, which would mean they are mainly involved in containment I assume

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The gas is listed as deadly instead of being just toxic

late basalt
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Yeah, they have a background in gas technology

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Ie why their guns use a light gas system

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I’ve noticed

stone vine
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Yes

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That’s just an example

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Look for more

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Like that

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I haven’t looked into it but if you want answers you have to dig

late basalt
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I’m more talking like, Techman (spelled idk) Malatack, etc

stone vine
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Hm so more to the like

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Strictly gun companies

late basalt
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I have a bit, but there is barely anything at all

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Yes

stone vine
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alright

late basalt
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The backstory to why they are designed, military use, etc

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Where the companies originate

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Stuff like that

stone vine
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Well malatack did make the burst rifle and assault rifle right

late basalt
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Yeah

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You got Techman with the MG’s

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Konig with the sniper

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Rafficus (can’t spell) with the MP

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Etc

stone vine
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Alright so that means each of em have their own area of expertise which could possibly make them have separate duties in the complex

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Similar to omneco

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Guns might be a spring off of their main area of speciality

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I do wonder how much they have though

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How much fire power and what it’s used to contain

late basalt
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Well like I can assume Konig originated from Germany based on the spelling

stone vine
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Mhm

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They have a lot of companies under them

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Swntonian

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San

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Probably lots and lots more

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Can’t wait to see em

late basalt
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Or privately purchased

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Or contracted

stone vine
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I do think that Dreyfus hired Santonian because they are an investment company, it takes all the work off of Dreyfus

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Allows them to hire everyone and take care of decisions

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Maybe even be used as a cover up who knows

late basalt
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Yeah

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But my assumption is that either: Dreyfus owns the gun companies or contacted them

stone vine
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True Dreyfus could have bought them all, santonian is most likely in charge of contracting the big time suppliers

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To continue the main operation

late basalt
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Yeah

fair lion
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Mp was something traffen iirc

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Smg van auken

late basalt
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^

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Ye

fair lion
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Raptus traffen?

late basalt
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That was it

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I think

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Idk how to spell

fair bridge
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Each platform has it's manufacturer yeah

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The turret even has a manufacturer, Mechatronics

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Which amusingly is a real world current day manufacturer

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I think

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I've seen it around at any rate

stone vine
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It probably is

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It sounds like a common name

late basalt
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Well

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Thing is they pair with gun companies

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Malatac made the burst sentry part while whoever made the pump made the SS part

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They are modified off the original firearm

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The burst just has a new lower. Ie the sentry

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While the pump shotgun has been heavily modified but retained the core elements of the firearm

stone vine
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Smart

late basalt
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No

stone vine
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Ok dumb

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Also

late basalt
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Quit it

stone vine
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Quit what?

late basalt
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Keep it to your pms with sev

stone vine
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Nah thanks I think I’ll have fun on this discord server

late basalt
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And you wonder why I blocked you

stone vine
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I appreciate your offer though

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No I don’t wonder actually

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I don’t really care

lilac island
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Sentry feels like it was once a fire-suppression-system.

late basalt
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Hmm

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Possible

lilac island
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Based on how it sits, swivels and the way it looks

late basalt
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But at the same time, it built specifically for these platforms

lilac island
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It looks like it was meant to hold water, extinguisher fluid, ectra.

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Which is why I think it was a fire suppression system

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Or, a coolent system for mining equipment.

late basalt
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Hmm. I doubt it tbh

lilac island
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Set it up, let the drill go, and blast it with water

late basalt
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More crowd control. For the company

lilac island
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Then, yes, making them fire suppression would have made sense

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At least, for a time.

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If I see another variant of the Sentry maybe I can guess better but the looks alone give me the impression it was used to cool drills and such.

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UNTIL SOMEONE gives me the lore folder I need, I can't really pin-down what any of these companies do as a main source of income aside from just existing and working with one another.

stone vine
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Eh now that Ive been blocked I don’t feel obliged to, sorry 😉 ❤️

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Facts are on the wiki

upbeat frost
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what are mines for?

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If the lasers are that visible what's the point of using it in the military?

lilac island
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That's more for gameplay.

stone vine
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Yeah

lilac island
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That, and, lasers are visible in dusty/foggy areas, or areas that are covered with some opaque thing.

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From what I can tell mines were probably at one point, I know this is a stretch, but.

They used them to blow tunnels and sections up in a controlled way.

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crazy i know

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doesnt feel obliged too
led me along all week and more

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bud i gave up hoping after like, the second "yeah i forgot"

late basalt
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^

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Mining or combat. Or area denial

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They have a multi role purpose

lilac island
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Mining at first, later given a laser trip to operate as area control.

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Psure they were remote detonators at one point.

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The way the mine looks, doesn't look at all like a shaped charge either.

late basalt
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Well

lilac island
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It's just a disk of whatever exposives they're using, and since the MCFC is a Hydrogen Molten Carbonate Fuel Cell.

late basalt
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A slight shaped charge

lilac island
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I can assume we may have something more than just gunpowder.

late basalt
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More directed explosion

lilac island
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True, they do fire outward like a Claymore.

late basalt
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It doesn’t explode everywhere like the shape makes it look like it would be

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Ye

lilac island
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Yeah, the shape gives me the impression it was at one point used for an AOE.

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Now it seems directed.

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The disk design itself screams this is used to blow up an area, not a single small thing in a direction.

late basalt
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Yeah

lilac island
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Even the C-foam grenade looks like it had a purpose in salvage and operations.

late basalt
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Keeping tunnels structurally stable/ riot

lilac island
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Yup.

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Just have like 50 on you at all times, throw them at walls and doors and other pillars that need a quick reinforcement before maintenance gets here

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Kinda reminds me of the foam used in that one movie. About the cannibals in Scotland and shit.

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They dropped one in an elevator and while it was going down, once it expanded it hardened up and cushioned the blow

late basalt
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Mhm

lilac island
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the only thing that i know for a fact has its roots in mining, is that one fucking thing.

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The item that takes a picture of a room beyond and maps it out in a holographic projection.

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Would literally be a god-send to miners and prospectors alike.

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Or fucking anyone looking to dig a hole.

late basalt
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What the old bio?

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Cause yeah

lilac island
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Ye

orchid bramble
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hey so what lore we can figure out?

glacial solstice
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its actually dumb not to have grenades

flat halo
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why

glacial solstice
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if the prisoners are so smart and coordinated

  • they made some guns out of some drilling machinery
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they atleast have that much knowledge or "common sense" to have grenades

late basalt
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no

flat halo
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Well yeah it kinda makes sense lore wise that they would have grenades but it would be stupid gameplay wise to have grenades in game

late basalt
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Grenades make wave clearing ez, which is why they wont come to the game

glacial solstice
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yeah i get it

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but lore wise its dumb

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we can have grenades like one time use and scavangable like trip mines and would only take out like 3 guys

late basalt
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unless they really dont know how

glacial solstice
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smaller ones offcourse

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and able to two shot a big guy

stone vine
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lol rip refinery

late basalt
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no more so than gunshots, mostly they are much quieter

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as i have used them

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oh yeah

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they pose a large threat to structural integrity of the facility

stone vine
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and also for game mechanics, grenade too op

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bad idea

late basalt
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yep

real cedar
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Same reason why there's no flamethrowers :)) I mean...imagine having that against that enemy type, or just any alarm door basically .

stone vine
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yeah exactly

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people want it for easy wave clears

lilac island
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I want it because fuck yeah

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I just wanna vibe

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Reason why i want a fucking double barrel

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Its impractical as fuck in this setting and how the enemies work

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But fuck it.
Break action got me like.

waxen granite
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A flamethrow could work if the lit enemies could damage you if they touch you while on fire. It could be low damage but constant (sorta liek how infection is a constant drain on max health to a degree, the fire could slowly drain their health). Or it could be high damage but use a lot of ammo/tool making it very inefficient except for in scenarios which you are being swarmed. Either of these cases could work.

late basalt
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no flamys

meager kestrel
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There should be a tool for healing

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Idk how it would work tho

flat halo
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Its called a medipack

late basalt
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^

flat halo
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If they added a tool that heals they would need to drastically reduce the amount of medipacks

late basalt
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or

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just dont add one

flat halo
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^ thats the right way to go

upbeat frost
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How to use a nade

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  1. place a mine
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  1. shoot it
flat halo
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That is true, mines are pretty similar to grenades except you place them instead of throwing them

old jungle
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So question me and my crew started gtfo bout 2 weeks ago we are in love with the game my question is how can we learn the lore stuff from past run downs if they are replace with each new run down

plain sable
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You can’t yet

old jungle
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Unless im missing something im just so sucked in i wanna learn all of it

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And ah..

plain sable
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There is a community made document that about sums it up though, might be pinned

flat halo
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Look at the wiki

plain sable
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Might be a nice feature to suggest, a recap of the purpose of each rundown mission for future context

flat halo
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There was not much lore in Rundown 1 and 2 but there is a recap of the plot of those two on there

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Along with the logs from Rundown 2

old jungle
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Hmm qhere can i find these logs or wiki on phone at the moment

plain sable
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Still it would be nice to know that most of rundown 1 was about gaining access to rundown 2

old jungle
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God this is such a strange way to approach a game but god damn i absolutely love it

plain sable
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Like turning on power and gathering ID cards

flat halo
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Ya R1 was literally just getting to R2

late basalt
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and R2 to R3

plain sable
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R1 is finding the daycare, R2 is finding the baby and R3 is, feeding the baby?

lilac island
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Waking the baby*

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All of R3 is about waking this child up and getting his HSU back up to par.

upbeat frost
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So the machine in A1 puts the baby in the HSU?

plain sable
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Fixes it I think, refuels it?

hot burrow
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It re powers it

real cedar
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Resuscitates it 🙂

lilac island
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Hel Guns look like they were once used as giant nail guns

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Or spike guns used for driving spikes into rock

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Pneat

upbeat frost
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Javelin gun from ded space

lilac island
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yas

upbeat frost
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Heat it up?

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Sounds like frozen food

harsh spire
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ngl it kinda is

meager kestrel
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gtfo-lore

harsh spire
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microwave the baby

upbeat frost
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H E A T

opaque forum
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We microwaved a baby.. delicious

upbeat frost
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Yum

white leaf
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Games based in mexico

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Most likely nearby the Yucatan

late basalt
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Yes, it is

lilac island
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It's the year 2050 and Buck Rogers is still floating around the planet.

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Hopefully we get more timeline emails.

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I'd like a better idea of the era.

lilac island
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I see you looking here D0c ;)

stone vine
upbeat frost
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Let's start a talk

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What do you think they did here

lilac island
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opaque forum
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At first it looks like it was a normal mining operations until they found something, after that it became a secret researching station under the premise of only mining. After some time of searching the outbreak happened and the complex collapsed

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Bringing us to now

stone vine
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I’m pretty sure it wasn’t just outbreak that caused the collapse of the complex, something else must’ve done critical damage, most likely baby Cthulhu

coral quest
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they would've needed a lot of strength to cause that damage

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that's why chimps are the most likely candidates for the fungus breeding program

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easy to control and very strong and fast

lilac island
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Pretty sure we can deduce at this point this whole mining operation was a cover from day 1.

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Iridium mining may be something people need, but it's the perfect cover for red-tape covered experimentation and weapon testing.

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And what better than fucking miles underground from the center of a crater that made the dinos pack it in.

opaque forum
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I separated the collapse and the outbreak

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Outbreak happened

lilac island
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Psure they both happened at the same time

opaque forum
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Everything after the outbreak is caused from what ever happened before until the eventual collapse of the complex

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Nope

lilac island
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Explain how an outbreak like this wouldn't cause the immediate collapse of the complex as a whole.

opaque forum
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Outbreak happened then a quick succession until the announcement of retreat

lilac island
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I doubt that.

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Retreat came around an hour or so into this outbreak if it occurred the way I think

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They would have worked their way up from E, or where-ever the prime mother was.

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Eventually destroying and rampaging through freely open doors and no security personnel to speak off, aside from the emails who mention they're there.

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We can assume, since not a single shot kills them, security went for body shots/center of mass as your basic training would tell you, meaning these fuckers did NOT stop.

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Security would dump a clip into one only for four or five more to skitter up and devour them.

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Retreat comes after riot suppression/response teams from the armoury levels can't handle it

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Lock the doors, hope they hold.

opaque forum
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I wonder what type of sleeper doesnt fall when you shoot them multiple times in the spot it counts.

lilac island
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Think of it like this, see.

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A human takes maybe one or two shots

stone vine
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Mothers don’t

lilac island
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Sleepers take 4 to the head, 5 or more to the body

stone vine
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Big guys don’t

lilac island
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Assume security have pistols

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They're fucked.

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At most SMGs

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If they had rifles and proper heavy weapons, standoffs could be made at junctions easily.

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Problem is far more of them than us, and ammo is not plentiful.

stone vine
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Well they would have people with proper guns, but it’s not enough to contain the initial outbreak

lilac island
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So once guns went try, it was down to bashing them to death.

stone vine
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The amount of sleepers being sent out by Cthulhu would have been way to many

lilac island
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Not even close, you don't have enough men and bullets to cover the avenues they would have used

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We're assuming they dont use vents to get around faster either like they really should.

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Security was done in an hour.

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Personnel, trickled after.

stone vine
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Yeah they were fucked

opaque forum
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They may have not known about the vents or a way to get in/out

lilac island
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The place was locked from the outside.

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This is why i think the finger thing is real

stone vine
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Anything goes wrong they aren’t even able to leave, no one can leave with that info

lilac island
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Facility personnel broke their fingers and nails trying to claw out of doors

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And the sleepers did the same.

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Assuming it was the best way.

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no fingies

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I will not say anything about the sleepers in tanks because EA means they could be changed in an instant.

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And those models could get replaced.

stone vine
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Eh I think it has to do with transformation but the theory is plausible

lilac island
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once the game releases lore can kick up hard

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cus then i can't use the EA excuse.

stone vine
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Once r4 hits I’m gonna lick every piece of ground

lilac island
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Samer.

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im on that ass like a plague

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data room got me going mmmmm

stone vine
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Oh yeah it’s hot

opaque forum
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Do it for me bish

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Please

stone vine
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Nom nom

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Will do

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Plus means I can make more dumb theories which I am excited for

opaque forum
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Your theories, even the dumb ones, can make sense with how many facts you put in Bish

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And you have a lot of theories that make sense

stone vine
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They have quite a few gaps but by making so many inferences I have chances to make changes

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So by making all these theories I can play a game of true or false in r4

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and then continue to add on after that

opaque forum
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Since the plant-human theory is “proven” to be true im sticking on trying to prove Key theory.

stone vine
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Mhm it’s not a bad theory

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I mean I support it so

opaque forum
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Information!

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Being stuck in the center of a war against Baby Cthulhu’s sleepers and The Warden’s prisoners is a great story to be apart of.

stone vine
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I like it

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In a way it’s almost like the sleepers are us

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Warden being baby Cthulhu

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And the sleepers being prisoners

opaque forum
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Both sides reflect each other

stone vine
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Mhm

opaque forum
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And each side makes sure the other can’t advance.

stone vine
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It’s like 2 sides of the story

lilac island
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release will show us moooooore

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It's an eternal war.

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That no matter who wins, they lose.

stone vine
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Well either warden is gonna win and unleash hell

lilac island
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We just learn how to kill each other more efficiently each time

stone vine
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Or we are going to die

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Baby Cthulhu may as well be unkillable

lilac island
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Considering the size of this place

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and the fact they send multiple teams down

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At at time.

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god, imagine the last stand.

opaque forum
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Baby Cthulhu sends teams up as well

stone vine
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Exactly

opaque forum
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To have them try to escape

lilac island
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They can't , they try, but can't.

stone vine
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It’s like we’re opposites but exactly the same

lilac island
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Same reason we can't go forward, keycards.

stone vine
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We’re going down, they’re going up

lilac island
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But, once we extract. .

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All those doors we left open. . .

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On the way out. .

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All those security doors they cant break now open.

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Mmmmm..

stone vine
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Allow for a way out

opaque forum
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After we leave they advance and we have to go back down

stone vine
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If there are any more

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But the thing is

lilac island
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No, we leave they come back up

stone vine
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We know for a fact they wouldn’t

lilac island
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And repopulate.

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This is their land, now.

stone vine
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Go even farther up

lilac island
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We're invaders and we are not the apex predators down here.

stone vine
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Because the holes are able to be climbed by them

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So they aren’t trying to leave yet

lilac island
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They're happy.

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I need temperatures and other shit

stone vine
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They will be sent up eventually

lilac island
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I wanna know their habitat.

opaque forum
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It should be like the fog but more biomassy

lilac island
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I remember someone had a theory about what their chemical composition was.

stone vine
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I think next rundown plants are gonna be a key lore detail

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The sleepers had something big with plants

lilac island
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Well, yeah.

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Do you know how much fucking iridium is in them?

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The fucking things aren't from this planet.

stone vine
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Mhm but we might see more natural habitat

lilac island
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Plants with fucking 5.6ppm

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Like holy fuck

opaque forum
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Im thinking some sort of balancing agent

lilac island
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Asteroids dont have that much.

stone vine
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I found one with 28

lilac island
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Exactly.

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Thats fucking MASSIVE Iridium.

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Do you know how much money this place is worth?

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Priceless.

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This mine is 100% priceless with the quantity of Iridium that can be found and if if it's also in the sleepers

opaque forum
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Not worth the risk

lilac island
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BULLSHIT

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Do you know what Iridium is used for?

opaque forum
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Yes

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Im saying not worth it to me

lilac island
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28ppm

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To you, no, to me and the world? Oh fuck.

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That mine is worth more than the planet, essentially at this point.

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With how fast and the quantity of Iridium seeming to naturally form on shit.

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We would have the largest constant supplier of high-grade Iridium with the only problem being the esoteric lovecraftian frogs that guard it

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Plus this is 2050

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We don't know the current economic state, either.

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On the metal world I have learned through the British chemist S. Tennatu which it opened in 1803. Currently, it spent about a ton of iridium annually. Its supplier is in South Africa – this is where concentrated field. One gram of the isotope is estimated at about $ 20.

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The Iridium in this mine is very, very pure.

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its worth the risk.

stone vine
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Yes people are greedy

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money is worth everything

lilac island
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how do you think they can fund a cover up this bitg

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big*

stone vine
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Well Dreyfus

lilac island
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fund companies this much to supply the needed materials for this place

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cover up human death

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cover up experimentation

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cover up the facility as a fucking whole, so far as we know.

stone vine
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Dreyfus is quite literally the owner of the world

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It does what it wants

lilac island
#

That's so wrong but also sorta true.

stone vine
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Eh not exactly wrong, we know they own everything basically

lilac island
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Wrong because the company will still need to ad-hear to the wishes of the people if it wants to remain ontop, shady shit won't fly.

#

Just because they own or operate in everything doesn't meant they directly oversee

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Tencent holds quite a bit and you barely hear about them.

stone vine
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I mean they still have to hide it, yes

lilac island
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Other companies can handle PR.

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R4 hopefully can give us more company emails

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so i can guess who does what better

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and where they're operating out of it

stone vine
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mhm

proper topaz
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ok i've been gone a while

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but are the prisoners clones?

opaque forum
#

Not that we know of

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Possible but not likely

proper topaz
#

fff damn

storm patrol
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I don’t think so but it’s not impossible

upbeat frost
#

Y don't they just bomb the complex

solar nova
#

1, it's underground and explosions would probably have a very limited effect on the complex.

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2, this would probably destroy or render inaccessible whatever the Warden is after in the complex.

stone vine
#

Warden is after something specific

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if warden just bombed the place that thing wouldnt be obtainable

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as rayalot stated

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i dont think warden wants to destroy sleepers and the complex

opaque forum
#

We are just trying to get information on how to get lower and complete the objectives to get lower.

lilac island
#

Iridium got me like

frail pollen
#

What if the wardens friend got lost down there and is trying to find and bring them back, but doesn't know where they are so they are trying to conserve resources. They then learn there's this, whatever it is, the enemies so is having us bring samples back to study and understand it

stone vine
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wardens friend do be dead tho

lilac island
#

Bro that'd have me in tears

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If this was unironically a big op just to rescue his fren

stone vine
#

well warden seems to really like their* friend then

lilac island
#

still Iridium plants with a 50ppm got me like mmmm trillion dollar plant

stone vine
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seeing as warden* sends a bunch of people to their deaths

frail pollen
#

Now let me ask you. Am I spilling secrets? Do you trust what I say? hmmm

lilac island
#

The purity of the Iridium down here is literally insane.

#

If you lie to me, D0c.

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The pizza will stop flowing.

stone vine
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No i dont trust u doc

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Pog

frail pollen
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What pizza

stone vine
lilac island
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Nek0 will have the pizza.

stone vine
#

ah yes

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the duck pizza

lilac island
#

Oh god

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Don't summon it.

#

Anyway.

#

Iridium purity here is crazy

frail pollen
stone vine
#

Oh yeah guys i havent seen many people bring this up, but Santonian means Crateceous and thats the age of dinosaur that was wiped out by the meteor in Chixculub

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just a cool thing

#

devs went big brain

#

?

late basalt
#

D0c

frail pollen
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Waiting

late basalt
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its my NY pizza

stone vine
#

alright i think i enjoy hitting them with hammers a lot more now

frail pollen
#

What if ||I told you a secret?||

stone vine
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owo whats this?

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a secwet

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show us doc

late basalt
frail pollen
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I would have if bish didn't fail the game the other day

stone vine
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;-; i didnt fail i knew

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sniff

lilac island
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bish you're the reason we cant have nice things

stone vine
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you arent wrong

late basalt
#

no

#

its lore

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right D0C

lilac island
#

ponydaudahot are these lore too?

late basalt
#

no

stone vine
#

Oh yeah @lilac island apparantly the meteor had 13000 calculated iridium ppm, but ill have to do some more research to be 100% sure

#

So its pretty reasonable why each of these contain so much

lilac island
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To have them bond.

stone vine
#

Also, I have something to add as "evidence" for my theory about the fungus

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Mycorrhizae are the mutually beneficial symbiotic association between roots of vascular plants and fungi. A well-accepted theory proposes that fungi were instrumental in the evolution of the root system in plants

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So, moss, like many other plants don't use roots to grow, so in favor they form Mutualistic relationships with fungi. I specifically find that Mycorrhizae looks similar to some of the things I've seen on the biomass in C1.

#

It looks like roots or some kind of strange surface covering it.

#

Moss can't exactly take hold of humans on its own, so using the fungi it would be able to connect to them via whatever the intestine like thing is. (probably intestine) From there it digs roots into the patient and starts the process of transformation.

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Yet, of course even with this root based system the moss itself needs a way to survive, it needs moisture.

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Well look no further my friends than the huge fucking thing that is C1 biomass.

opaque forum
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Ah yes.

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An area I have yet to see

stone vine
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o-o warden thats a lot of iridium

#

yes but warden this is pure iridium

#

and if thats not enough for you, studies have shown an extreme surplus in iridium in not only the meteor, but the crater itself

#

meaning

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13000 is not all

opaque forum
#

There’s more

stone vine
#

only a small chunk

opaque forum
#

Jesus this sounds like Marvel’s Wakanda

stone vine
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I mean they are funded by Dreyfus

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in the first place

#

thats shit loads of money, billions

opaque forum
#

Santonian got the good suppliers

stone vine
#

I think Dreyfus is lazy and hired santonian for that shit

#

Basically Dreyfus> Santonian> everyone else

opaque forum
#

us players

stone vine
#

If the case was Santonian was the all mighty superior then the Truth AM log would probably focus on them

#

not Dreyfus

opaque forum
#

And didn’t dreyfus assign The Warden to the complex too?

stone vine
#

Also Warden about the 13000 ppm, the normal amount in earths crust is 0.001

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that is

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a fucking huge amount

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and as it is you can obly buy 99.95% pure iridium at around 4k minimum

#

100% pure iridium would be a lot more than that amount

#

for a tiny piece

#

imagine that x13000

opaque forum
#

Pure anything is expensive

stone vine
#

Mhm

#

especially iridium

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seeing as it is one of the rarest minerals on earth

opaque forum
#

And you have to base it on weight and karot

#

So pure iridium will be worth it even if you only can break the top layer

stone vine
#

so basically from what we can infer

#

around like 5 trillion dollars

#

just from the meteor

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and take into account, the iridium isnt only in the meteor, it is everywhere in the crater in quite a large amount

#

so basically this could range from 5-50 trillion dollars maybe even more

opaque forum
#

Im looking at Iridium pricing

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We need the inflation equation

stone vine
#

yeah i looked, pure iridium is unmarketable though so

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we have to make due with 99.95

#

and then multiply that by a reasonable amount in worth

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.5 is a huge difference

opaque forum
#

And every little bit more brings the price up exponentially.

stone vine
#

yes they are basically rich enough to do anything

#

and also take into account

#

that the biomasses themselves

#

can have up to 40+ ppm

#

thats another billion lots

opaque forum
#

$1,645 US for one troy oz of iridium.

#

Selling it would earn less than buying

#

So logically guessing (not estimating) the price should be around $1500 US for 1 troy oz for a normal bit. Pure would be around $2k-$2.5k US with selling while buying would be around $3k

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Just for 1 troy oz.

stone vine
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1 troy oz is like 3 ppm right

opaque forum
#

How heavy did they predict the meteor to be?

stone vine
#

1.0×1015 and 4.6×1017 kg,

opaque forum
#

1 ppm equals 0.029167 troy ounces per short ton.

#

Took that off the internet word by word

stone vine
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i thought 1 ppm was .32

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atleast thats what i found

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hm

opaque forum
#

Apparently not

stone vine
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oh well maybe different thing im lookin at

#

anyways tho the meteor was very heavy

opaque forum
#

Ok. Equation time

stone vine
#

Alright ill do it aswell and then we compare answers ig?

opaque forum
#

So while 1 ppm equals 0.029167 troy oz can direct the troy oz to weight in grams

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Ah god math

#

Alright

stone vine
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ive got 11700 grams or 376.16373 troy oz for the 13000 ppm i need to factor in weight now and price

opaque forum
#

Jesus man what are you using

stone vine
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my head

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and google calculator

#

im barely through the problem yet

#

still on weight

opaque forum
#

Im trying to use google calculator but im getting undefined for being to big of a number

stone vine
#

let me finish rq then ill show you my explanation

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not that good at this so it might not be the 100% best result

#

it is minimum 1 quadrillion kgs

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holy shit

opaque forum
#

((4.6x1017*1000)/31.1035)/0.029167 this is what im doing for weight to ppm for the big one.

stone vine
#

alright pog

opaque forum
#

Put that in

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Wait shit

#

Equation bad

#

The first number you have to multiply buy 1k

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Then you divide

stone vine
#

3.21507 × 10 to the 16th troy oz

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is how big the meteor is

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in troy oz

opaque forum
#

Did you multiply the first number by 1k?

stone vine
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im using a diff equation

opaque forum
#

Ah

stone vine
#

yeah

opaque forum
#

Is your answer based on the first tiny one or the second bigger one?

stone vine
#

here ill just say what i did

#

wait one second i need to double check something

#

Ok 1st i converted the troy oz equivalent of ppm into grams which we get .9 grams, multiply by 13k to get the 11700

#

wait thats uneccasarry

opaque forum
#

Just use my equation

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((4.6e1017*1000)/31.1035)/0.029167

stone vine
#

im already almost done lol

#

ill try urs aswell tho

opaque forum
#

It changes kg to grams

#

Then changes it to troy oz

#

And then to ppm

stone vine
#

thats a lot easier than just winging it

#

ill use ur equation

opaque forum
#

The first number is based on meteor weight

#

So change only that number

stone vine
#

mm yes i was doing it the super long conversion way

#

as in

opaque forum
#

I understand

stone vine
#

yeah

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also care

#

we should be using the minimum not maximum so change it to 1.0e1015*

#

we need to go with an assured amount

opaque forum
#

It’s interchangeable so do what you want

stone vine
#

yeah just the smaller one is more reliable

opaque forum
#

Dont use the e though in the equation

stone vine
#

oh yeah i know

opaque forum
#

I only used it as a marker

stone vine
#

that just means to the 10 x 15 power

#

also again just asking whats the 1k for>

opaque forum
#

Kg to grams

stone vine
#

gotchaaa

opaque forum
#

I compared troy oz to grams as it is much easier with a number bigger than 1 to divide. That is my reasoning.

stone vine
#

alright 1.1022979e+20

opaque forum
#

Holy fuck

stone vine
#

is the answer to the equation itself

#

now we need the price

#

o-o

opaque forum
#

That is how much ppm there is

stone vine
#

yes

opaque forum
#

I will compare ppm with price

#

What element should I compare it too?

stone vine
#

errr

#

o-o

opaque forum
#

Or where should I look

stone vine
#

let me look one sec

#

best i can do with the fucking internet apparantly

opaque forum
#

Thank you

stone vine
#

anyways lets just use it as a base we can refine this all at a later date

#

and get much more exact answers

#

that is 22.59 grams

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for around 4k

#

so 4000/22.59

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177 dollars a gram

#

.9 of a gram is 1 ppm

opaque forum
#

So lets go ~1:1

#

Safe bet

stone vine
#

alright

#

so 177 x 1.1022979e+20

#

uh jesus christ

opaque forum
#

Omg

stone vine
#

mom pick me up im scared

#

that is a fuck ton of money

opaque forum
#

Holy shit that

tame goblet
#

are you trying to calculate the cost of Iridium in the crater? Giving the companies a reason to dig there?

stone vine
#

yeah

opaque forum
#

Im crying

stone vine
#

figuring out the exact price of all the iridium

#

in the crater alone

opaque forum
#

Im literally crying

stone vine
#

meaning shit loads more we can figure out at another time when im not falling asleep kekw

opaque forum
#

What would they do with that much!

stone vine
#

idk run an underground facility

#

kekw

#

and heads up(these results even if the math is 100% correct are 100% wrong)

#

because in 2050

#

who knows what iridium would be worth

opaque forum
#

Inflation

#

There should be an inflation equation out there

#

And I found it

stone vine
#

send it here

tame goblet
#

Pretty sure Iridium is already rare so inflation would be in the negatives since it would be in high demand?

stone vine
#

yeah exactly

#

it would increase

#

by a lot

tame goblet
#

Ah

#

Yes

stone vine
#

but that depends

tame goblet
#

they could charge whatever they wanted.

stone vine
#

maybe someone finds a jackpot thats easily accesible

#

space exploration

#

etc etc

#

so there is really no way to 100% tell

#

but atm that much iridium is worth

#

bucket loads

#

1.9510673e+22

opaque forum
#

Only for 2020

tame goblet
#

the iridium shared around the whole crater right? And it's spread out 150km in diameter and 20km in depth. Gonna cost a lot to find it all. The complex is probably only a couple km across.

stone vine
#

$19,510,673,000,000,000,000,000

opaque forum
#

Unless that the complex is just a side station.

#

We dont know what they are actually doing.

#

All we know is that they mined, they found, and they died.

stone vine
#

warden is that too little money?

#

or u want more?

opaque forum
#

We could buy the moon

stone vine
#

bet

#

ill get lots more

opaque forum
#

Lets not talk about the 1% anymore. We became the 1%

stone vine
#

fuck youre right warden

#

thats too little money

#

the fact i just did that and havent even started my actual math homework is funny

opaque forum
#

This is more important

#

And this is a warmup

#

Everyone needs warmups

#

And now that crater scares me. The peninsula will be even worse.

stone vine
#

also if you want to know how much in profit terms

opaque forum
#

Im saying not even .0000001% has been reached in price.

stone vine
#

the mining expedition there cost 10 million

#

and plus all equipment

#

we can estimate this one was like maybe uhhh

#

1 billion dollars

#

probs more

#

but anyways

opaque forum
#

~5B

stone vine
#

thats nothing

opaque forum
#

Give or take

stone vine
#

compared to the amount

#

they get in profit

opaque forum
#

Deyfus better be happy. people died for that Iridium.

stone vine
#

well theyre probably using said iridium to test on people aswell

#

seeing as why not right

opaque forum
#

With the extras they found.

stone vine
#

get those popcorn bags and eat

#

iridium

opaque forum
#

I hope we get to see the Iridium

#

If we havent already

stone vine
#

we have its called yummy biomass 😉

opaque forum
#

Ah.

#

Delicious

stone vine
#

i wanna see drills actually drilling rocks

#

like

#

for value

#

not just to build dumb complex

opaque forum
#

Our mission is to make our own escape route

#

Meaning we are mining a path to our destination

#

And out

tame goblet
#

that would make a good mission. power the drill to reach part of the level.

lilac island
#

Be me, afk and drilling into the rock

opaque forum
#

And when we turn on the drill we have to fight

lilac island
#

dont mind me.

late basalt
#

i wont

opaque forum
#

It makes noise so it makes sense

tame goblet
#

Yes

#

Quick add it to game suggestion

opaque forum
#

I can’t you do it.

tame goblet
#

I don't wanna get downvoted to sh*t :/

late basalt
#

is this payday?

opaque forum
#

It sounds like a good mission though and I can’t type in that chat

late basalt
#

OOF

opaque forum
#

Just put it under my name

late basalt
#

what was it

tame goblet
#

Hhahaaha

late basalt
#

oh god

opaque forum
#

One more downvote

late basalt
#

^

opaque forum
#

Im going to mod mail the info

late basalt
#

what

lilac island
#

@opaque forum Ill do it

#

How do you want me to word it?

opaque forum
#

I sent it

late basalt
#

where is it then

opaque forum
#

Mod mail

late basalt
#

Too worried about countless Downvotes?

stone vine
#

mod mail for what?

opaque forum
#

Actually no

lilac island
#

Guess I can't downvote the suggestion :(

opaque forum
#

Mod mail for the drill level

late basalt
#

might even top Warden for that

stone vine
#

oh i see

opaque forum
#

Dont they put mod mail in the suggestions?

stone vine
#

dang no downvotes how sad

late basalt
#

np

lilac island
#

no

opaque forum
#

Ok

#

Ill copy and paste

#

Here

stone vine
#

anyways i logged the equation

#

so we have it at all times

lilac island
#

Ill post the suggestion

opaque forum
#

Add a mission where you have to turn on a drill to get to your objective. The timer for how long the drill could last would be up to you but make sure that the waves come in when the drill is on.

#

Edit it to your liking

lilac island
#

Done.

opaque forum
#

I actually want to see how many downvotes this gets.

late basalt
#

it s up

tame goblet
#

What are your guys thoughts on more character voice lines. e.g when one of the characters see's the mother for the first time they're like "What the fuck is that...."

late basalt
#

eh

#

its low priority

opaque forum
#

That would be for more rundowns

lilac island
#

Gameplay stuff is much more important

opaque forum
#

^

#

Lore is second

#

You have to have an enjoyable game for people to care

stone vine
#

stares at wall intensley this is good lore

opaque forum
#

Guys the suggestion is almost even

tame goblet
#

Love how typing posted it and also downvoted it KEKW

opaque forum
#

His choice

stone vine
#

its 5:4 now 😉

lilac island
#

@tame goblet I wasn't lying when I said I'd downvoting it ;)

late basalt
#

F

#

he did

opaque forum
#

Not mad. Honest opinion.

late basalt
#

ready

opaque forum
#

He did what he wanted

late basalt
#

Its a reskinned reactor

#

but less fun

opaque forum
#

What

tame goblet
#

I think it has more potential

opaque forum
#

You mean like a lvl 1 alarm reactor

tame goblet
#

Reactor is just waves, a drill can be a lot of stuff.

late basalt
#

make unique ideas, not reskins

#

thats all it is

lilac island
#

I don't like because its reskinned reactor and error alarm. It makes more sense to do wave defence when you turn it on for a specific door.

opaque forum
#

Id say it’s a timer for the drill

late basalt
#

laughs in [REDACTED] ideas

opaque forum
#

Like can you survive 30 seconds or 2 minutes of wave and/or constant bombardments of sleepers

late basalt
#

the world may never see the pain of my Ideas thank god for the playerbase

opaque forum
#

That’s what the drill should be

lilac island
#

It's not a new level idea, they had it at the end of R1D1.

late basalt
#

pretty much

lilac island
#

Unity engine
Can use cars and shit
Not having to drill a path through the rock to get to the entrance like in Red Faction

late basalt
#

just a natural timer not a literal one

lilac island
#

ffs ppl

stone vine
#

get nae naed

opaque forum
#

👍

stone vine
#

oh yes derri

#

u missed the iridium convo

#

😦

opaque forum
#

It was fun and scary

stone vine
#

wait caretaker we forgot something very important, the 13000 ppm 😐

opaque forum
#

...

#

No

#

Dont tell me

stone vine
#

we we forgot

opaque forum
#

It’s worth more isnt it

stone vine
#

let me see

#

one second

opaque forum
#

Oh no

stone vine
#

it would be /13000

#

so easy math

#

one sec

opaque forum
#

Oh ok

#

Thank god it is a divide

#

Not a multiply

stone vine
#

1,500,000,000,000,000,000

opaque forum
#

1.5 quintillion

#

Huh

#

Ah fuck no.

#

Warden

#

Please do not tell us we have to change the price of US dollars to Spanish pesos or Euros

stone vine
#

yes

#

i prefer just using usd since im familiar with it

#

but we can use different currency

#

Alright

#

ill put that in rq

#

it took 20 months

#

in the email atleast

#

1091361648

#

usd total

#

and in pesos

#

it is

opaque forum
#

Compared to 1.5 quintillion

stone vine
#

24073800000

opaque forum
#

Before adding inflation

#

Yea still more gain than lose.

stone vine
#

1,500,820,998,008,639,352

#

total profit

opaque forum
#

Did you subtract the cost daily?

stone vine
#

mhm

#

total of 20 months

opaque forum
#

Damn

stone vine
#

yeah it doesnt change much'

opaque forum
#

1.5 quintillion

#

That’s enough to rule the world

stone vine
#

they already do

#

:d

opaque forum
#

And more

stone vine
#

yes

opaque forum
#

Ah

#

Not good

stone vine
#

baby cthulu

#

o0o

opaque forum
#

Im rooting for baby cthulhu now

stone vine
#

ah yes warden we forgot the bills

#

to maintain

opaque forum
#

The guardian of the crater

stone vine
#

uhh that would still set us at 1.5 quint

opaque forum
#

Baby Cthulhu

tame goblet
#

which one owns a load of brands? Was it dryfus?

#

Santonian was the one who did the digging

opaque forum
#

It was, yes

#

They also rule the world

stone vine
#

anyways i have homework so gotta blast

opaque forum
#

Later

tame goblet
#

So why does Hakket have the Santonian logo instead of the dryfus?

opaque forum
#

He just has it

#

Probably found it lying somewhere

#

Or was given it

#

Or stole it

#

There is a lot to question about why he has one

#

R4, we hope, has answers to it.

#

All we know about the four main characters is a foggy background of Bishop and Dauda’s mental link to something.

#

That’s it

tame goblet
#

and you base this mental link off the trailer because Dauda happened to be the one narrating it?

opaque forum
#

Yes, everyone does.

#

Bishop is the only known one to have worked for Santonian as of right now.

tame goblet
#

You could assume maybe they all have the mental link.

#

Just because Dauda was narrating doesn't mean the other 3 don't have it.

opaque forum
#

Yes in fact we can but the only one we can clearly guess to have it is dauda. R4 should give us more insight to the main characters

#

Saying that the other 3 have it is a hypothetical guess with some suggestions pointing towards it but not enough to be big enough to have more people on board with that theory.

#

If they do have Dauda’s ability then they were near each other when the thing happened whatever it was that gave them mental insight.

#

And looking at how big the complex is it is possible, yet unlikely they were near each other when the event occurred.

tame goblet
#

couldn't it just be the cortex implant?

opaque forum
#

Nope

tame goblet
#

how come?

opaque forum
#

The implant is for connection to the Warden.

#

Dauda’s mind was changed. He can feel their emotions their hate.

#

The implant is specifically for the warden

#

Not them

tame goblet
#

and "their" are the sleepers?

opaque forum
#

No one truly knows

#

But likely yes

tame goblet
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Okay, so we need more info to made a truly accurate analogy.

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It is hinted to the sleepers but it could also be a red herring

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Yes

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As of this point all we can do is wait and guess what is to come.

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As soon as R4 is released then this chat will be flooded again

tame goblet
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you know the red text when you click on a mission, I think C1 is "It's....changed..." Are they the words of previous prisoners?

opaque forum
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Yes

tame goblet
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D1 is "This feels...wrong... We have no choice..."

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Those are words of failed drops

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The last words of the last drop to go down

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But those are hints to what we do and how important they are to the lore.

tame goblet
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One guy said to me, that our 4 characters are basically the A team. Warden sends in worthless prisoners to collect data. When they have enough they send the 4 we play as in to do it.

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Yes and also no.

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We are the A team but we are also the last resort

tame goblet
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So when enough prisoners fail the task the warden sends in us as we're most likely to get it done?

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As it seems

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And so far the four has a 100% success rate even though us players fail multiple times.

tame goblet
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ye so when you fail its basically like it never happened

opaque forum
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Or we were one of the other teams.

tame goblet
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and like memories passed onto the a team?

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My Key theory explains a bit of it.

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Dauda can see what other prisoners saw and felt before, during, and after they fell during their mission. In every game we fail in is actually four other guys but dauda sees them has himself and his crew while his crew succeeds every time. It would explain why we hear the crank grab us after we fail a mission even though we are not close to hole anymore, dauda is waking up. Im not saying this game is a dream im saying it is taken from dauda’s ability. And every time we succeed that is or potentially could be Dauda’s crews success. “But why do we only see one person while playing the game?” You could be asking. Well imagine we are tapping into Dauda’s head and watching what one person does. Since he is connected to them maybe we can tap into that and see them through him. We could just be scientists under the warden observing what the prisoners are doing through Dauda’s head. And that injection? A transmitter. Or something that can neurally send video images to screens. Another question you may be asking is “well why dont they continue

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looking at the fallen prisoners to understand more of the transformation process?” To put it simply, there is no point. Sleepers don’t have eyes so they are in darkness and they can’t see emotions so what is the point of trying. They cant track dead prisoners through nothing. And Baby Cthulhu? Going up to get Dauda for his ability to connect to peoples minds. That would be one strong army when you can upgrade your mind using Dauda’s untapped potential to telepathically control and entire army without having to make a noise. Making your whereabouts virtually unknown for the rest of your existence while you play god. Right now it’s an ant colony. But if nothing can stop it, Hive mind. And Dauda is the key while the other three are protecting him. Bishop because he knows the layout. (Maybe) Woods being the heavy lifter and hard hitter. And (Maybe) Hackett being the stress reliever so that these four do not start fights with each other. And to keep them questioning less the Warden also send them down into the complex knowing the risks if they fail.

tame goblet
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and you think there's some kind of "mother" who wants Dauda's ability?