And make sure he doesn’t go out of line with the choices he makes
#gtfo-lore
stone vine
Havent been looking in to it so much past couple days ive been having some sleeping issues so
i just too tired to use brain
opaque forum
Ah. Hope you get better with it
stone vine
Yeah im getting my shit under control
opaque forum
Also you should send Rayalot what you know about Alpha lore wise so that Raya can understand what we know about it and the theories behind it.
And are you ready for the silence the Admins are going to give us?
frail pollen
@opaque forum
opaque forum
Here we go
stone vine
u want 20 rupies
opaque forum
Id rather go straight to the point.
verbal hull
I think we get Dancing clown next RND
opaque forum
It’s the only thing that matters currently.
The only thing that should get people excited
Secrecy or Deception
verbal hull
stone vine
@frail pollen is this lore
verbal hull
frail pollen
Well I'm doing good, thanks for asking. Just busy working for the next 2-3 hours
verbal hull
are you animating the last pasts for default dance on scout?
stone vine
yeah
opaque forum
Glad you are feeling good and glad you are being productive Doc.
That should really lighten up your mood and let you sleep better for when you lay down to rest
Mind if I say that you should remember to have a cool beverage once in a while to make sure you do not slack and dehydrate yourself?
NO
No Chimps
frail pollen
chimp? hmm?
opaque forum
No one here wants chimp theory to come back
stone vine
omg the chimps in the complex
opaque forum
Chimp theory would be fine After it takes place of this game as a later story.
Not during or before
So that after our story of the complex they can test what happens if other similar species are effected.
Doc also sad stop with the chimps Warden.
If im not mistaken
But it was a long time ago and memories can be fuzzy
I do remember that a mod said stop as well
opaque forum
So Doc, avoiding an answer also chooses secrecy.
In fact... almost everything you do will choose secrecy.
frail pollen
opaque forum
So what seems more fun? Sending us on Wild goose chases? Or staying quiet and watch us move forward?
What would everyone else choose I wonder?
Warden, goose chase or silence?
stone vine
O-O
opaque forum
Bish, you too... goose chase or silence?
opaque forum
And you failed the chase Warden
Bish got away free
Back on topic that will lead to a whole lot of Lore... Doc. If you choose secrecy we will continue our current lore pieces and try to put them together, if you choose deception we will follow those goose chases until we solve which one is right. 2 lies and 1 truth is all we need. Maybe you can make it 4 lies instead of 2.
But there needs to be only 1 truth no matter how big or small it is.
And it can’t be what we already know
So again. Secrecy or Deception.
Either no more talking about info, or telling us one hint of lore we do not already know with as many red herrings as you can possible think of.
Take a sip of the water you should have to decide.
We need you to stay healthy for the choices to come
frail pollen
I'm always going to choose secrecy. I'd rather not decept people and send them down the wrong path. If they go down that path on their own that's their own doing. now there may be times i'll tell you "yeah, that's not anything" but most cases will let y'all do your thing
stone vine
Oh wow whens netflix making this a live action?
opaque forum
But seriously. Get a drink.
opaque forum
Drink while work. Grab a straw and suck.
Get one of those drink hats
@stone vine if there is a live action coming out I hope we can get our own characters in it as either a voice or an actual person somewhere.
late basalt
No Knob Creek for u
opaque forum
Watch you get a character that dies pathetically.
dull hill
HAVE TW HK?
frail pollen
?t lfg
cloud swiftBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
frail pollen
@dull hill take a look at those LFG channels. Also take a look at #highlighted-communities
frail pollen
we have TW and HK communities listed in #highlighted-communities channel and the #lfg-asia or similar LFG channels
solar nova
@frail pollen Does the Warden stats count individual completions or group completions (so is a full team of people winning 1 or 4 completions)?
solar nova
So 861,736 unique individuals launched the expedition and 62,379 unique individuals completed it?
Or just it was launched in the presence of 861,736 people and the completions earned by players total to 62,379?
late basalt
i assume the latter
frail pollen
Prisoners were sent down 861,736 times. that includes you launching it 2 dozen times.
These are total, not unique.
solar nova
Thanks, that clears it up a lot
solar nova
That's ~150 games completed.
lilac island
Ye
solar nova
How many completions did Sen have on D2, again?
lilac island
10 maybe?
solar nova
Thought he had more than me?
lilac island
It's a complete guess
solar nova
Apparently I participated in 3.382% of all D2 completions.
solar nova
4.961% of all D2 completions Sen participated in.
lilac island
Thought we were still talking about E1
solar nova
No, lol
vestal delta
we dont know too much yet, but you can always check the pinned messages of this channel for pretty much a summary of what we know so far
dull orchid
wow the completion rate is lesser than i expected it to be
twin folio
The game is really hard
I got it the other day and me n my friends have only beat the first 2 levels so far
I wonder if on the meteor there was an alien life form that caused these creatures to appear
Interesting
lusty field
Are there any theories as what gtfo means
Since the devs confirmed it's not get the fuck out
flat halo
?t gtfo
cloud swiftBOT
The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.
lusty field
opaque forum
@twin folio i can assure you that no Aliens came from the asteroid but instead a fungi that can change humans using their spores and Biomass.
harsh spire
The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.
@cloud swift pretty sure it's GODAMN THE FLASHLIGHT'S ON
storm patrol
?t owo
cloud swiftBOT
Sorry, unable to find a tag named owo.
storm patrol
What was that one
flat halo
Its gone
storm patrol
Where did it go
flat halo
The GTFOWO one is gone
storm patrol
😭
flat halo
Deleted
storm patrol
DOC WHYYYY
flat halo
D0c said its never coming back
opaque forum
Good
storm patrol
Lawsuit time 😎
flat halo
They are saving The name GTFowo for the anime adaptation
opaque forum
That both intrigues me and disgusts me at the same time
You mean the sleeper observation tubes?
opaque forum
They have
storm patrol
Within them
opaque forum
They wanted to know how sleepers worked without any problems.
So they put them in tubes with the fungi and moss and see how they acted.
storm patrol
Why haven’t those dead sleepers decomposed? Why are the dead bodies not just bones?
This makes me think sleepers don’t eat humans
Also it makes me think that the event didn’t happen too long ago
opaque forum
The outbreak didnt happen that long ago as per many theories
Do you want to catch up on all of our information? If you do, @ bish. He will help you using all of the information he has gathered.
storm patrol
Na
opaque forum
Alright. Have fun then
stone vine
Hello i am now the wiki
vestal delta
are you
vestal delta
shouldnt you have the wikiwikiwiki role then
upbeat frost
Such strange that there aren't any skeleton remains in the complex
upbeat frost
So there's 2 way to explain the event from the corpse rn
- There are low levels of decomposing bacteria in the complex, causing the bodies not to decompose
- The event just happened not a long time ago
stone vine
yeah or just devs didnt go that in depth with the bodies
atm the quality is shit
decomposing isnt even recognizable
but even with that factor bodies decompose within like weeks
hm
opaque forum
Unless cold enough
opaque forum
I already have
stone vine
? How exactly
opaque forum
@glossy ginkgo i sent two graphs of ground temperatures by layers and we can reach to around 500C at the 20km down.
Using the lights we can tell there we are using secondary or reserve power
stone vine
Mhm
opaque forum
Meaning important stuff is on
opaque forum
Do you know what is important the lower you get?
fair bridge
Oxygen
stone vine
a faxx machine
fair bridge
And a functioning ventilation system to cycle out CO2
stone vine
Mm yeah but I want exact exact
opaque forum
Yes those are important too
stone vine
Like in game proven exact
fair bridge
New tool: caged canary for them low O2 levels
opaque forum
People would want room temperature
stone vine
It’s a good way to start but with no way to confirm it’s kinda hard
stone vine
Also taking into account how much heat does the c1 biomass radiate? Etc etc
opaque forum
Between 70-80*F
stone vine
Such small factors could cause a huge increase or drop in temps
Hm yeah I’m fine with trying to figure it out I just want a log or something maybe about it
so we know exactly the temp
opaque forum
Meaning the complex takes more importance in keeping things cool/frozen
fair bridge
We know that servers exceeded a 40°C temperature and that wasn't "normal" temp so you can imagine that the room temperature is likely under that at least
stone vine
Yes exactly
Only temp we have been given is like
Auto gen
When it overheated
But let’s just say maybe 70-80 is correct
That would still cause a body to decompose
It would need to be freezing down there
opaque forum
Unless there is something inside of the body not allowing it
stone vine
and we know it’s not due to water still being prominent
Yes
So i don’t think temperature is the issue
opaque forum
It’s a different factor entirely
fair bridge
It just pushes more to the idea that the outbreak is recent
After all as we do see the infrastructure is all functional and in good shape
opaque forum
And because Biomass is a plant I can guess they release oxygen
fair bridge
Well on the premise the ventilation system works, oxygen gets pumped down
opaque forum
Making it “a cooler area”
fair bridge
Add to the fact they want to add an oxygen mechanic in some expeditions, we can hazard the guess that it is indeed a ventilation system that can be on/off
stone vine
Yeah maybe in that level things will look different
Who knows maybe sleepers react different with no oxygen
And the biomass isn’t exactly a normal plant that pumps oxygen
If anything it pumps quite the opposite
toxic fog
fair bridge
They have some kind of respiratory system but we only really know they can exhale
Yelling and stuff
stone vine
Well they probably do breath
fair bridge
But other than the pulsing nothing says they breathe the same way as a human
opaque forum
But they dont breath like plants.
stone vine
Mhm
opaque forum
And the croaking will be them actually breathing
fair bridge
Vicklund's lung infection sounds so yeah, probs breathing
opaque forum
Lung infection is highly likely due to spores entering the blood stream through inhaling the fog.
Which can be used as both sonar and sound of breathing
They breath to make noise for sonar.
stone vine
Wait
Im so dumb
The enemies literally breath
Chargers and mothers like
Literally breath kekw
like normally
Well not that normal but
opaque forum
They have creatures around them so they do not need to be searching. Like they are not the front lines initially.
If the sleeper army is correct then we identify what “class” each sleeper is based on Medieval games, or at least to my knowledge.
Or maybe like chess
stone vine
Yeah but they still need to protect themselves
The pulsing is like a mix of breathing and searching I’d say
So it enhances their detection
While they breath
opaque forum
Right before you said that you were dumb
stone vine
I was just responding to the part about not needing to search
Also thanks for confirming I’m dumb
opaque forum
Which is not correct
stone vine
That proves it even further
opaque forum
You are not dumb
opaque forum
Ok. Sleeper Army class Identification:
Slasher-warrior
Shooter-Archer
Shadow-assassin
Giant-tank
Charger-Rusher
Mother-support
Spitter-bomb
opaque forum
Hybrid-Artillery
Took me a while to remember the hybrids name
The charger and the mother not making noises when breathing just means that they are not the front lines as rushers go in for quick high damage while we focus on the other guys and support is support.
opaque forum
Both of them?
fair bridge
Yes, it's a deeper less clicky sound
opaque forum
Which could mean the same thing.
fair bridge
Well, not quite deeper, it sounds more like a wooden sound almost
But they definitely make a sound when "breathing"
opaque forum
What they are breathing... could the sleepers and the biomass have a similar cycle like plants and humans?
opaque forum
As in plants take CO2 and release O2, we take O2 and release CO2
opaque forum
It could
fair bridge
I still don't think the oxygen cycle has anything to do with the monsters
opaque forum
For us
And only us
Oxygen could be poisonous for sleepers
So they need the Biomass to change things up so they can breathe
stone vine
yes but if they released oxygen in the amount that plants do
then we wouldn't have the possibility of any oxygen levels
opaque forum
Unless we can’t breathe that kind of oxygen
O2 is what we breathe
Couldnt there be an O4 or just O as what they breathe?
fair bridge
That's
stone vine
i
fair bridge
Not quite how chemistry works
opaque forum
Yes how chemistry works for plants
fair bridge
O3 is Ozone gas
stone vine
yes it quite literally changes all together
once you change one number
because
one more of that thing
changes
the entire chemical makeup
fair bridge
It's like how Chlorine (toxic) and Sodium (explodes in water) make table salt when combined
Completely different properties
At the very least, on the carbon base life cycle earth has, we can go on the safe bet that even the monsters work with said cycle in some way
Otherwise they wouldn't live
opaque forum
So they live with this law of the world. It doesnt mean they live the same as us.
fair bridge
Agreed, it can be a different form of the carbon life cycle compared to humans
But not one that is completely out of the established chemical makeup
opaque forum
They dont have to breathe what we breathe but there could be a change in what they breathe
Someone pin this
fair bridge
Err, I think peeps can google it if they need it
opaque forum
In our known universe life exists by Carbon
Any element that has the same properties can be used the same way
fair bridge
I'm not sure it's that easy
opaque forum
Meaning anything in the Carbon column can theoretically support life
fair bridge
Otherwise we'd be transmuting lead to gold by now
opaque forum
Well that is changing the element themselves not using what it already is.
So we can have Silicon based lifeforms in our universe.
fair bridge
Still linked to carbon however, if what recent studies have to say
fair bridge
I'm in no way an expert either, to be fair
But the classes I did take at least put into evidence what limitations exist in elements and how they interact
opaque forum
I also ruined everyone’s grades in that class
opaque forum
Competitive grades and my teacher curved the grades based on the highest 2 scores
stone vine
Oh no
opaque forum
Anyways back to their breathing pattern
Knowing plants they change CO2 to O2 using sunlight and what ever they grab from the soil.
The same thing can be applied to the biomass or at least the moss/fungi.
But instead of O2 being made it is being taken
Which can explain why we had an Oxygen level.
So that we can breathe in the areas where there was nothing breathable there
fair bridge
...disregarding ventilation
opaque forum
It uses the ventilation system
fair bridge
If the ventilation system is working then there would be no lack of oxygen on the premise it's working properly
If it's not working, well, lack of oxygen explained
opaque forum
Reserve only activates the important stuff and that could not have been enough to supply our needs
fair bridge
C02 is heavier than other air components so it would naturally go lower in the complex when no ventilation is active
Reserve would 100% make sure ventilation works in such a facility
Like
Emergency happens, tough luck get out before you suffocate
opaque forum
Unless damaged or clogged
fair bridge
Back to the point if it not working yes
opaque forum
And this complex should have many failsafes
fair bridge
We have oxygen in all levels so far, so it's safe to assume malfunction is a less common occurence
But that is likely the future explanation for such levels when added
opaque forum
And we are close to the surface only going down around 1km
fair bridge
Yes but you still need ventilation because of the previously mentioned fact that C02 is heavier than air
It's why even car tunnels have ventilation (albeit that's because cars produce a fair bit of CO2 as is)
On the surface it's never really a problem because there is always atmospheric natural movement of sorts
Currents, winds
You name it
Keeps it mixed and fresh
opaque forum
And with the hole now.. the wind down there should act like a tornado if powerful enough.
fair bridge
Not quite
Would depend on what other holes are in the complex that could cause a draft
opaque forum
Well this is hole E1
fair bridge
And even then, speedy drafts along specific tunnels would act more like a vacuum
Pulling air out of other rooms
But so far there is no indication of main shaft "tornadoes"
opaque forum
This complex is really destroyed...
opaque forum
The longer it stays this way the worse it will get
fair bridge
Only real indications of damage are the main access shafts
Everything else is borderline pristine
opaque forum
I wonder what is in those untouched rooms
fair bridge
Which rooms are you talking about?
fair bridge
Likely surface level
opaque forum
Dang
fair bridge
You don't make your miners/tunnel diggers live in the shafts
opaque forum
Those could have held useful information
opaque forum
Yes but more “personal” information about characters and how different types of foods react to the biomass.
fair bridge
Unless you were curious about the weekly menu, as far as info goes
Like, realistically labs and datacentre are currently the hottest spots for info
opaque forum
Since bodies do not decompose do other already dead foods decompose or do they have to have something inside them already?
fair bridge
That is only on the premise a lot of time has passed
If it's shortly after outbreak decomposition may not have time to take place
opaque forum
And the food could give us a time stamp
The menu could give us a “daily menu”
Like Taco Tuesday on the 28th.
fair bridge
Or we can just use e-mails that have dates
opaque forum
...
fair bridge
If one email says "THE PLACE GOT OVERUN" 12th of september 2051
And then another being like "The Warden has a plan to do a thing" 15th of september 2051
Boom
No food required
opaque forum
If there was a message about it being overrun while it is being overrun then we can say that that person is dumb and most likely is dead.
fair bridge
Quite the contrary
opaque forum
Audio log and they are smart
fair bridge
Guy escaped and contacted big cheese, data servers have it logged like every other company email
Guy is alive on surface getting a big talkin' to from the big cheese on "how did you let this happen"
opaque forum
Im thinking about a person still inside the complex typing an email about the complex falling
fair bridge
Well I wasn't
Emails so far show that it doesn't have to be someone purely in the complex
It's part of a larger company network
Someone at some point will have evacuated and have to contact big cheese to explain oopsie
Question is if any of the servers at the time saved the transcript
So really I hope that Datacentre has a fair few transcripts
dry owl
Couldnt there be an O4 or just O as what they breathe?
@opaque forum What you are looking for is O3 or Ozone. First of O2 is toxic for us in high concentrations aswell. O exists only in the exosphere of our planet and would be impossible for them to breath out. O3 doesnt make sense either though from a energy standpoint. O4 does not exsit.
They dont have to breathe what we breathe but there could be a change in what they breathe
Where are you getting this from? They got doctored on during a time, where the complex worked on 100% and wasnt abandoned and swarmed. So they prolly do breathe O2. The only other gases they prolly take in are CO2 and CO, cause those can gather in mineshafts, hence our gas masks.
Meaning anything in the Carbon column can theoretically support life
No. That is wrong. Only because Carbon has certain abilities it doesnt mean the higher homologous have the same properties. The only element in that column, which does have similar molecules like C is Si. For example alkanes (Hydrogen - Carbon molecules) and silanes (Hydrogen - Silicon molecules). Even then Si is restricted. Unlike C, Si is restricted in creating Si = O double bonds. So you cant just copy paste every molecule C is capable of with Si. And even then lifeforms like that would have massiv problems, cause water would be highly dangerous to them
Otherwise we'd be transmuting lead to gold by now
Btw possible, but highly expensive
fair bridge
Thanks for clearing things up
And yeah that's why I said "I don't think it's that easy"
If it was easy to get gold out of lead everyone would be doing it
dry owl
Yeah, I think they have already done it in small portions. But the gold created out of that process, would be much more valuable, than the gold we find in nature or we have in our storages
fair bridge
Something a lot purer?
lilac island
hi
fair bridge
Hello
lilac island
im new heare
dry owl
No it would be more expensive cause of the process.
fair bridge
Oh in that sense, I see
dry owl
hello
upbeat frost
What did I miss here?
dry owl
More or less the molecular integrity of sleeper
forest garnet
I still wonder what’s the Warden up to🤔
devout geyser
i
upbeat frost
Warden is collecting data maybe?
solar nova
@fair bridge Tbh there probably are residential facilities in the complex, I expect it would be more resource intensive to constantly bring people down, especially without easy surface access (since the rundown holes were post-complex).
flat halo
A residential area environment would be cool
solar nova
It would also be a lot less conspicuous to keep your very very large workforce underground instead of having a massive population living in towns that other people can notice. Secrecy is a big deal for Santonian, after all.
waxen granite
I have a feeling they are contract jobs
So that workers who were given the serums would not be able to leave and could be monitored and could "have an accident on the job" if their infection got too bad
We do know that some workers were given the syringes / serums
upbeat frost
"Cortex Interface Established"
opaque forum
Are you talking about the startup screen Mashed?
fair lion
i don't think so, from what we've seen in the complex it's practically impossible to travel underground
kind of beats the point to have residential areas underground when you have to travel through the surface anyway
if rundown holes were made post-complex why did we need to get access to some through underground? how did they travel before the holes?
solar nova
There are probably other entrances, but they're either hard to use or are disabled. I expect it wouldn't be efficient to send prisoners through normal entrances when they'd have to crawl through a massive chunk of the complex to even get anywhere.
There are probably a lot of ways around that don't involve the surface which we don't see.
Especially since huge chunks of the complex have been removed by the rundown holes.
I wouldn't be surprised if we got a transport environment eventually
Seems more like a gameplay limitation that things are so disjoint anyhow.
fair bridge
Indeed, like a "terminal" tileset that has things like monorail stations and or repair bays
opaque forum
Would it be crazy so guess that the holes were intentionally made in the Complex’s weakest points like elevator shafts?
stone vine
I don’t think they were intentional tbh
atleast not from the workers
maybe something else had an intention
late basalt
They are literally drilled straight thru the complex and rock
late basalt
On the drop you see room cut completely in half
late basalt
Looks definitely man made
stone vine
The hole?
Looks anything but man made to me
No one would intentionally put a huge fucking hole from thousands of meters downwards to the top
Considering there were also multiple
late basalt
My assumption, an incredibly advanced drill where is doesn’t matter if they drill thru solid rock or weak points
stone vine
And why did they go through their own facility?
Right through what they built
or it could have been someone else but
How did they get there
late basalt
It most likely isn’t theirs anymore
Ie. The warden and that organization did it but they do not control the facility
stone vine
For what purpose though?
Other than dropping ya
there’s no reason to make a hole that big
And in the first place, if they had access to the drills, why not just cut a hole right to where they want to go
and the fact that waves come from all the way down there means that there is a shit ton of these red sleepers down there
which aren’t normal
They would have to come from something, right
something very big
late basalt
Who knows just yet, but we know the warden doesn’t have control over the facility. At least parts of it
But the hole also appears to have been made from below
stone vine
Yes
So we can assume the facility is quite deep
And at the very bottom is something important
and there is red sleepers down there so
there must be something different as we go down that causes that
we’ll just have to see
late basalt
So crimsons
stone vine
yes red
fair bridge
It's likely half and half
As in from the surface it was drilled down
But at the complex levels the bent struts pointing upwards indicate some kind of explosion took place, going upwards
So it could be a mix of both, taking advantage of already existing "shafts" explosions created and just building around it
I mean yeah
Never said they planned the boom
But a large complex with nuclear plants losing it's maintenance workers could potentially have some kablooie going on
That or certain gases escaped deeper down and an unfortunate spark caused some chain reactions
Or I suppose, as Bishop said, giant chtulu like thing that just punched upwards
Not sold on that one I have to admit
late basalt
Well we both said upward
If you look at how the metal has sheared, it all shears upward
Not down/ in like drilling from the surface would do
But an explosion far deeper in the complex could very well do something similar to weak point that are perfectly in line all the way to the surface (unlikely but possible)
stone vine
Red
but for that to happen more than once seems very unlikely Neko
like even more unlikely
We know there are more than one hole because we have extraction points
fair bridge
If it's a large scale geothermal/explosive thing in the depths, it could blow up by various "weaker" spots, causing multiple escape shafts for the blast
Especially if say it turns out that the shafts it did blow up were initially normal elevator access tunnels
late basalt
@stone vine the explosions? I agree
But it isn’t just elevators, but entire chunks of rock and rooms
So it’s very doubtful that it could be an explosion, more likely a very large sleeper or something
late basalt
Yes?
stone vine
K
dusky salmon
BIG SLEEPER GO BRRRRR
stone vine
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
graceful frost
Hey guys! Took a 4 day vacation to the Yucatan Peninsula and I discovered something wonderful. There was an entire exhibition on the local simian wildlife. I can't believe GTFO is so realistic. These developers really went out of their way to make sure that this future could really take place! Eerie, hunh?
covert wagon
Hope you didn't wake up the locals...
upbeat frost
Can I ask you guys something
opaque forum
On the topic of holes I did notice that the floors pointed up at the initial breaking point. The damage came from bottom up. The drills could have been to make access all levels.
Ask away
upbeat frost
Do you think the weaons in GTFO is used in the outside world?
opaque forum
Yes
If not then later yes.
Biotracker is just another version of the GPS
The foam is... somewhere...
The guns are guns
The hammers are hammers
upbeat frost
they are probaly used in the military
opaque forum
Yes
All of our weapons should have been tested prior to the complex falling otherwise they would not be here.
And if they work then use them where you can
upbeat frost
are sleepers tougher than normal humans?
opaque forum
Debatable and unknown
upbeat frost
they SHOULD be stronger
opaque forum
We can pop their heads when they are standing/sitting
But the giants last for 4 hits
^further agrees with the military suggestion you made
upbeat frost
to glue things together?
coral pilot
Caretaker, as I remember from R1's lore guesses, the guns used by our protagonists were drilling tools modified so it can be used as weapons, because weapons would cost too much forbmass production simply to send people into a deathtrap with almost 30% chances of surviving
They also didn't gave them a lot of ammo because i would cost a lot too, and because they might find some down the rabbit hole ^^
So I don't think guns that we use are used in the outside world
opaque forum
Well I joined in on R3 so thank you for the info.
coral pilot
No problem ^^
I might not be 100% true tho, all we can guess are simply guesses and not official unless proven otherwise ^^
But the fact that guns are modified drilling tool is a fact, unless it changed with R2 and R3
As for MashedPotatoe, Sleepers seems to be tougher and stronger IMO, they are infected with a parasite, so they can't feel pain or exhaustion, it's logical that they are tougher and stronger, they also survive some gun's headshot, some rare humans did survived headshots with a lot of luck, so I think sleepers are quite resistant too ^^
Pretty sure a lot of people already talked about those subject tho, I need to read this channel more ^^'
abstract spear
still weaponry looks quite like real weapons, we're not in dead space universe here
i'm having a hard time to buy into "modified drilling tools"
late basalt
What argument do i need to start now
hot burrow
What's happening
late basalt
They only mentioned 'handmade' in an interview, but its never been said otherwise
they are all factory made firearms
stone vine
they said that they were repurposed mining tools, thats all i remember kekw
late basalt
very doubtful with how they have been manufactured, unless all of a sudden mining equipment has barrels, bolts, picatinny rails, ie. gun parts
but i do remember that comment
hot burrow
I wish they stuck with the weapons being reused mining equipment
late basalt
ehh, i dont think all of them, but there should be some firearms that will be
abstract spear
but i do remember that comment
@late basalt from where btw?
late basalt
it was in one of the past interviews, i dont remember when
abstract spear
thx for sharing
late basalt
thing is with that, is its an old interview back with the old weapon design, where it seems probable that they were scavenged weapons, unlike the ones we have now
abstract spear
there were some quite nice elements, like biotracker marks on enemies, which look way more cool than what we have now imo
coral pilot
It may be an old interview, it is still the same universe and lore, so the design can change, the lore will stay the same give or take, unless they change it on purpose, but it will change a lot of things and a lot of theory ^^
As for the guns, didn't found one that would looks like a real manufactured made real weapon, they all looks like modified tool as for my point of view, they got a lot of imperfection here and there on the design and are mostly just made to shoot and not optimised ^^
abstract spear
well maybe, but take dead space again - it was really clear there (for me) that the weapons you use are not "real" weapons. here it's not the same story
late basalt
its a sci-fi world so ofc they wouldnt look like 'real manufactured' firearms
coral pilot
It may be a "sci-fi" world, real world rules apply on the guns of this one anyway, recoil, muzzles, balance, ammo type, velocity, so as long as the ammo we use are not lasers or any kind of futuristic things, the same rules we use on our firearms are applied on gtfo's ones
A lot of them do have some fire arms' parts, but most of the gun is made of tools looking pieces
They most likely have been modified than simply be "normal" guns in this universe
fair bridge
What doesn't sell the "Converted mining tools as weapons to me" is that each gun platform has a manufacturer
And the name of the gun, see the Buckland S870 for instance, sounds more like a gun we have now that could be say a Remington 870
I would love to hear how a shotgun is a mining tool however
What definitely is mostly repurposed mining tools is the gear and pickups
Mine deployer could easily be a tool that was used to dig out holes for say wiring or just more precise breach points in rock
C-foam definitely would have been used to reinforce rock where needed until actual cement was poured
Biotracker could have been a search & rescue tool to find survivors of cave ins
Turret is...the exception here really, it does seem jury rigged but I think it's a gun slapped on a mount with an optical sensor, some of the parts could have been for mining but the gun likely wasn't
c-foam nades, tripwire mines, fog repellers etc. definitely had a purpose for mining prior to the outbreak
late basalt
^
abstract spear
that's agreeable
upbeat frost
Turrets can be used in high security places, like military bases probaly
fair lion
boi
well but anyway, maybe there was some need for "protection" in the complex, since they were digging around and expecting to find something or it's an illegal thing and some uses for security or "silencing" and whatnot
upbeat frost
It'll be cool if rundown 4 have hostile sentries
fair lion
you're gonna regret when you get it
upbeat frost
Data center should be secured
fair lion
saw tons of suggestions for flying enemies, they're gonna laugh when we get a flying security turret that shoots us
fair lion
i know i asked about the rundown holes thing a few times already, but when you're descending, it doesn't look like it was blown out or made haphazardly or anything, only the bottom part (where we actually arrive) is blown up
i didn't look close but didn't see any explosion marks either
what had to build them
worthy flower
The upward curl is from removing the drill
fair bridge
That's not how a drill works
If it drills a hole it would be pulled back out without any extra damage
The bent upwards struts also appear melted, while it is true that a drill could create that amount of heat by friction, it's odd to think it would drill that badly as to then hook onto sides of the shaft when retracted
late basalt
It’s a giant worm. GOW2 time baby
fair bridge
ohno
late basalt
Ikr
fair bridge
Time to perform cardiac surgery 4 times
late basalt
But there is no way it’s a drill
But too perfectly in line to be an explosion as well
So it’s prob some kind of massive sleeper
fair bridge
Either that or something obvious yet overlooked
"It was an upwards emergency escape elevator with the drill on the top"
coral pilot
Mhm, why not multiple generators that were in line for some reasons ?
I mean, when we dive into the abyss, we clearly see that the hole is kind of perfect until we arrive at destination, It could be some precise destination where there used to be a generator or something like this ?
Idk tbh
And the long perfect tube would have been drilled by external people to reach that place
solar nova
The fact that it's up and out instead of down and in is what makes the holes weird.
I don't think we'll really be able to give good guesses at it until we get an expedition which brings us to the bottom of one of them.
coral pilot
Yeah true, but we can't have good guesses in any case, we can only think about it and share with people our thought and learn from each others to work as a research group ^^
That's what I like about this community ^^
solar nova
We can usually have pretty good guesses because most lore has some surrounding facts.
The rundown holes we know almost nothing about.
coral pilot
Hai ^^
atomic yew
It's a gigantic facility that we know had live specimens of these dangerous critters, we see them standing in green tubes.
It's not a stretch of the imagination that they would have had military gear for their security ops.
Turrets, Mines, all ... over the top maybe (but they obviously didn't have enough to stop whatever disaster happened...) but 'reasoable' for over-geared corporate security
Even the C-foam is based on a real thing the USA military tried to make useful in Desert Storm.
(it failed)
real cedar
The Holes we drop down into...the metal around it points upwards so something must have blown up from the inside all the way up.
flat halo
Well that would mean the outer world is infested and we dont know if thats true yet
flat halo
No big sleeper
stone vine
big sleeper\
flat halo
big sleeper theory dumb
stone vine
no
opaque forum
If it was explosion the hole would be bigger and more collapsed...
Im sticking with Baby Cthulhu as there are more things pointing to it than “explosion”
stone vine
yes
plus multiple explosions like that sticking directly through the facility seems unlikely
the holes wouldnt be as perfect either
like caretaker said they would look collapsed
stone vine
and with the knowledge of something like big mother existing, we know sleepers can get bigger
who knows what would be down at the bottom of the facility
and if it had intellegence
opaque forum
Explosion means radius. What we have is a pole hole.
lilac island
i got yall fuck the chimp theory kekkkwww
flat halo
Ye fuck chimps
tame goblet
How does one get infected?
waxen granite
Clearly we are not dealing with chimpanzees. However I agree they are hominids or hominins of some sort. I have a strong sense that these are cross river gorillas genetically modified to be spooky.
manic shuttle
H O M O E R E C T U S S L E E P E E R
waxen granite
Definitally Haplorrhines due to their post orbital bars
Platryinne since they are of the new world primates? It begs the question of are they actually a platyrrhine or a catarrhine since they appear to be more hominid like
opaque forum
The mention of Chimp Theory brought my attention from packing back to Lore chat. How dare you say such unsearched and illogical thing such as Chimp theory.
Burn it in hell.
opaque forum
Now deliberate holes in the the weakest points to make it so your army has a way up to the surface now that is a good guess.
opaque forum
Good thing we advance ape.
Chimp inferior.
You just supported the chimps! Stop being Italian!
You dont get to switch sides
opaque flax
chimp
opaque forum
this is a threat
coral pilot
The heck with chimps ? Is that some kind of troll theory or a real based theory ?
coral pilot
Oh, ok thanks for giving me the information
Did the R1 but never heard about chimps ^^'
coral pilot
E-eh ^^
opaque flax
chimp
coral pilot
About that hole, is it possible for an object strong enough to cause this ?
coral pilot
I mean, a giant round metal plateform, that would be propulsed by some thing and went up in a straight line ?
Mhm ?
opaque forum
We call said creature Baby Cthulhu.
It is the queen sleeper
And it is the complex as far as we can guess
At least now it is
We have hints of its existence thanks to Bish’s discoveries.
coral pilot
Mhm.. we do know there are multiple holes right ?
opaque forum
Yes
opaque forum
And Baby Cthulhu is a smart sleeper
Giant and smart
Moved map Alpha lower
Somehow
coral pilot
Mhm..
opaque forum
As to many theories
We know it’s big because of the noise it makes when starting alarms
Also the holes
coral pilot
What if... The sleeper itself live within the complex, using it as an host ?..
I mean... holes are simply made for breathing or ejecting some kind of fluids or gas
opaque forum
That is what we are trying to guess and we have theorized. If you have any information to confirm this with us please do share.
opaque forum
We theorized their actual purpose
coral pilot
Mhm ? What did you theorized about it ? ^^
opaque forum
In bish’s sleeper army theory it is guessed at the holes were meant as a way to the surface to release the sleepers and the spores from the complex. So far it has not made it up there but with each sleeper getting closer the more likely a bigger outbreak is imminent.
The breathing part is still a major guess as we think the Biomass is their life support.
We just dont know what they breathe or how they breathe other than their clicking noises.
coral pilot
I was talking about a sleeper that would be way bigger
Like.. way way bigger than a giant or titan
opaque forum
A lot of biomass is needed and we do not know how the biomass reacts to oxygen completely yet.
coral pilot
One that would have the size of the complex itself, could turn it to a giant vessel for the parasite
We do know that some walls or ceiling are covered up with living strange thing
coral pilot
Mhm so the biomass could be similar to veins
opaque forum
The biomass is the life support
coral pilot
Mhm
opaque forum
After cutting off the sleepers from their biomass they die really quickly.
And helplessly
coral pilot
Is proven ?
opaque forum
Yes
opaque forum
Yes
But we do not know how the biomass works.
We are currently guessing that the biomass also has properties for combining sleepers together to form other types of sleepers
Given certain circumstances
coral pilot
Mhm..
opaque forum
Which we do not know
coral pilot
As if it assimilate things and copy it before transforming other things
coral pilot
Mhm
opaque forum
That is a part of the Blob theory I made about what Baby Cthulhu looks like and how other sleepers can be effected in certain stages of transformation from human to sleeper.
coral pilot
Seems interesting
Jeez I love that community, theorising and sharing, is so nice and enjoyable to see this kind of behaviour ^^
coral pilot
Eheh dw ^^
opaque forum
Nothing
Other than a mining suit that people claim to be “made for a chimp to go to space”
coral pilot
May be a troll theory, it is still a theory and have to be heard ^^
Even tho it may not be it at all ^^
opaque forum
It was one of the debunked theories
We dont keep debunked theories
If by some chance the devs decide to give them proof then we will listen
coral pilot
Yeah sure, but even tho is fake, is still nice to keep it aside in case some informations can be used in the futur ^^
opaque forum
Otherwise it is debunked
coral pilot
For other theories ^^
opaque forum
We have used their info yes
Even though it is just a suit
We have used it
But it has been looked into that there were human testing in the complex whether it was subtle or not.
So it would make sense that later we could see animals being tested for future research.
Just not in the time before the outbreak.
coral pilot
Hai ^^
opaque forum
Any specific topic you want to talk about?
We can think of a theory if one has not been made yet.
I know i made 3 and bish has made around 7 if not more...
coral pilot
Well.. actually I'm too tired to think about anything so I might poof to bed, but was nice to theorize around ^^
coral pilot
Nah thanks, my brain my explode eheh ^^'
opaque forum
Alright
coral pilot
But do write it down, someone might be interested in reading it ^^
opaque forum
If you want a theory talk to bish, light, me, and many others.
Oh people have heard it already
coral pilot
Alrighty ^^
opaque forum
I made a paragraph and had Bish save it
stone vine
pog pog
u mean this paragraph
Maybe Dauda can see what other prisoners saw and felt before, during, and after they fell during their mission. Maybe in every game we fail in is actually four other guys but dauda sees them has himself and his crew while his crew succeeds every time.
It would explain why we hear the crank grab us after we fail a mission even though we are not close to hole anymore, dauda is waking up. Im not saying this game is a dream im saying it is taken from dauda’s ability(edited)
And every time we succeed that is or potentially could be Dauda’s crews success.
“But why do we only see one person while playing the game?” You could be asking.
Well imagine we are tapping into Dauda’s head and watching what one person does.
Since he is connected to them maybe we can tap into that and see them through him.(edited)
We could just be scientists under the warden observing what the prisoners are doing through Dauda’s head.
And that injection? A transmitter.
Or something that can neurally send video images to screens
This may be the most far fetched thing I thought of and the hardest one to confirm but it is possible with how little information we have currently about Dauda and his ability.
Another question you may be asking is “well why dont they continue looking at the fallen prisoners to understand more of the transformation process?” To put it simply, there is no point. Sleepers don’t have eyes so they are in darkness and they can’t see emotions so what is the point of trying.
They cant track dead prisoners through nothing(edited)
And Baby Cthulhu? Going up to get Dauda for his ability to connect to peoples minds?
That would be one strong army when you can upgrade your mind using Dauda’s untapped potential to telepathically control and entire army without having to make a noise.
Making your whereabouts virtually unknown for the rest of your existence while you play god.
Right now it’s an ant colony. But if nothing can stop it, Hive mind.
And Dauda is the key while the other three are protecting him.
Bishop because he knows the layout.
(Maybe) Woods being the heavy lifter and hard hitter(edited)
And (Maybe) Hackett being the stress reliever so that these four do not start fights with each other.
And to keep them questioning less the Warden also send them down into the complex knowing the risks if they fail.
(Caretaker*)
opaque forum
Yes
The key theory
Not the plant-human theory that is now almost 100% confirmed with heavy facts supporting it.
upbeat frost
hackett gud
opaque forum
Since this is a hierarchy of sleepers. We know of the queen. Dauda could be the unknown king.
The lost king of sleepers
Or the queen just wants to absorb Daudas ability and let him die.
Up for debate
upbeat frost
haha Hackett funni
fair bridge
By plant do you mean fungus
stone vine
Yes I think that’s what care means
fair bridge
Ok was wondering
fair lion
do we know any lore about the wave spawn scream
storm patrol
The roar?
opaque forum
Giant sleeper. Possibly queen sleeper. We named is Baby Cthulhu. That is it.
storm patrol
A similar question: the roar on C1 when you open the door to zone 19
What makes the sound
Because their scream is different
storm patrol
I don’t think theres a mother on c1
flat halo
It is the same scream that the mothers do
But yeah
How does the mother leave when we are at the only entrance to the zone
storm patrol
And why does it not wake up the ||chargers||
opaque forum
Probably same way it got there.
flat halo
Like through a vent or something
storm patrol
There’s a huge hole in the ceiling
flat halo
Also idk I do not think the devs really thought through the whole mother scream thing but it was cool so idc
storm patrol
With spaghetti plants or smth
flat halo
Cause like you said yea it should wake the chargers up
storm patrol
So then the mother can climb
flat halo
Probably idk
stone vine
Well the huge hole in the ceiling is covered in biomass and has been in the game since rundown one
I wouldn’t say that’s reason to believe that mothers can climb
Though I’m not disregarding the possibility that they can
It could be very much possible that the reason only we hear the scream is because of the Cortex Interface
It isn’t a new thing to add creatures that can tap into technology
And it also might just be a game mechanic
Seeing as like a whole room of chargers running at you is very deadly
So, yes, a mother did exist in C1 at some point in time
But there is no way to really know how it left
And if D1 mother is possibly the exact same mother
Also, about the two different screams
One is a much lower pitch than the other
Specifically the zone 20 alarm(as was brought up earlier)
This could be related to the queen that we have been speculating of seeing as the roar is quite a low pitch when it sends out a wave
All I know is that it is definitely not the mother
Also, about what I said earlier, I would say the mother left with us
as in
It was there the entire time
In c1
and then followed us to the big hole
If it really was the same mother than that could be the case
But if it’s not then we can just scrap that
It’s pretty far fetched
I would say the reason she was there in the first place was to make chargers and add on the biomass
without the biomass at hand mother can’t have the tar covered chargers as seen
late basalt
Bruh
stone vine
No shut
meager kestrel
|| why do you guys think the mother in d1 before extraction is in like a boss arena ||
Spoilers for d1
late basalt
Just like B2’s It appears to be a large enough room for her to nest properly
stone vine
Yeah to create a mother that big they obviously need a lot of room
Can’t just cram her into a tiny room
fair bridge
Well that or it's just the kind of place they seek out
late basalt
Like I said, prob a big enough room that would be suitable for a nest of sorts
Like in D1 we see the sacks everywhere. Imagine how many more there would be if it was there longer
As I assume that it was actually the one screaming in C1, and moved deeper in the complex as we got there
Especially seeing the sacks in z16/17
fallow canyon
Why would the mother go towards you in D1 if every time you fight her she always seems to be running away?
late basalt
Hu? It does
The D1 extract one is extremely passive
The glitched one is the aggressive one
fallow canyon
No, I’m talking about the first one
fallow canyon
I thought it might have to do something with inserting the neonate
late basalt
Nah, it was a bug, but they decided on keeping it
It fits well for gameplay reasons
But for lore, it doesn’t help/ make sense
fallow canyon
I thought it was intentional for her to climb up the stairs
stone vine
late basalt
Unless, maybe we were getting close to the Pmother, but I doubt it since it wasn’t intentional
stone vine
Well
late basalt
Do I even want to check the blocked message
stone vine
I have a theory that she might have been following us
Think about it
She spawns in right at the bottom of the stairs
That means she was close by all the time
But never seen
How could that be
fallow canyon
Gameplay reasons probably
late basalt
Except it wasn’t intentional, meaning there wasn’t any lore intended for it
Especially since their behavior is passive
stone vine
So was prior bug mother like
late basalt
Yep. I’ve gotten 3, heard others getting 12
fallow canyon
How
late basalt
A bug
fallow canyon
I thought it was an intentional mini boss