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stone vine
hey uh
this might just be me overlooking things again but
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doc had this as a custom status for like one day 
and its the number 1 in binary
again, might just be me overthinking
just after abodbacka did the thing with his pfp ive been kinda sus of the discord
but uh ye
cunning marsh
ashen sentinel
hey bish hav u noticed some sleepers heads look lik venus flytraps?
stone vine
yeah strikers?
they are split open
with the rows of sharp teeth
and also mother I should say
🙂
stone vine
well
her head
is a striker head
but with a face like a charger
so the two are together
my theory is
there are multiple people in one biomass
and it mixes and matches their body parts into a mother
if you count there are 4 sets of hands
well
4 sets of 2 arms
a striker head
a charger face
shooter legs
stone vine
hm im pretty sure shooters and strikers dont have fingers
mothers do
babies dont
giants dont
ashen sentinel
thats very strange
stone vine
uh
yeah
it is quite weird
i assume its got to do with the infection
part of transformation
ashen sentinel
i saw a blown off arm and thought it was a club lol
ashen sentinel
i was thinking hoof but nvm
ashen sentinel
but toes r need for balance
stone vine
well
lilac island
not really.
ashen sentinel
or was it stance
lilac island
Fingers are most likely broken off trying to escape
upbeat frost
Ah, I'm back with the lore
lilac island
Toes, same deal.
upbeat frost
Ey you guys know Omneco?
upbeat frost
HEL guns manufacturer
lilac island
too bad bishop its the truth
upbeat frost
They are barrels that are written Omneco in B1, are they related to the complex in some way?
lilac island
Yup
lilac island
yeah?
ashen sentinel
lol to grab thins
stone vine
yet they arent trapped?
ashen sentinel
things*
stone vine
sleepers dont grab things
lilac island
problem with the finger thing is, the same thing i have with the bodies
bad graphics
they need a texture update so i can see what they actually look like
cus they look broken off
stone vine
graphics isnt really an issue for me
stone vine
i can make em out
lilac island
I want it to be more clear.
stone vine
i agree
but im just saying its not an issue for me atm
like better graphics would be good
textures suck
lilac island
Either they broke them off trying to get out, or they end up eating them.
ashen sentinel
plus it looks lik sleepers and wat not hav been eating living people from corpses around
lilac island
No, they just mimic them.
stone vine
as it is the biomass is the only source of vitals in the sleeper
upbeat frost
Organs that are not important will shrink away
lilac island
that will forever be me theory
stone vine
point of infection is what keeps them living
lilac island
Over a long period of time, generations.
We know the sleepers come from the biomass
we just dont know how
or who triggered it.
stone vine
actually
stone vine
the beginning beginning is hard to explain
lilac island
Which is what we need.
stone vine
but they are connected via what looks like intestine
lilac island
Everything else is null when you find the prime.
ashen sentinel
wat about the pile of bodies randomly placed in places, lik they about to be turned into sleeper?
upbeat frost
We gotta find the first person that got infected
stone vine
and the dead bodies contain the same intestine hanging out like they were cut off
lilac island
The random dead bodies are dead bodies.
ashen sentinel
oh lame
lilac island
Piled up bodies are just bodies of people who died together.
lilac island
It looks like the people died, stayed where the sleepers ended them.
stone vine
upbeat frost
Some dead bodies are in a sleeper pose
stone vine
yes
lilac island
Sleepers are in dead body pose*
stone vine
because they are transforming
while they are alive
when they die, they stop
the way they die is being cut off from the thing keeping them alive
the biomass
ashen sentinel
lik not everyone survives transformation?
lilac island
That would be very, very lame.
And make this more like resident evil.
That's cringe.
ashen sentinel
lol
stone vine
eh
stone vine
theres a lot to the story
lilac island
of course
stone vine
not just the infection
so
this is pretty "complex" as one might say
😉 hahahahaha
hahahahahahaha
lilac island
we can keep bouncing the same theories off one another
stone vine
gagagagagagaauohdupdgwpdgAwfdap8wdy
lilac island
but r4
opaque forum
Wow
lilac island
will show us something
lilac island
Or at least push us in a better direction
upbeat frost
Specimens recovered fom the mining site
lilac island
sure
stone vine
ashen sentinel
YES
stone vine
okie
lilac island
is it smelly
opaque forum
I just joined on tonight. What I miss?
stone vine
alright so number 1
i would say that looks much more merged than anything
broken fingers look a lot rougher
and there would still be lots of flesh left over
and rough parts of bone
upbeat frost
looks like their intestine Is outside too
stone vine
yes
opaque forum
I wouldnt say merged..
opaque forum
More like twisted
ashen sentinel
i would post a pic of striker but idk how
upbeat frost
why shooters don't have intestines outside?
opaque forum
Bloated head.
stone vine
because
lilac island
You know.
stone vine
thats not their point of infection
lilac island
Come to think of it.
ashen sentinel
isnt it for there long toingue thing
stone vine
the black eggs are
lilac island
It looks nothing like an infected human.
Or infected anything.
Looks more like it was stitched together.
Parts of different people.
upbeat frost
Yes It does look like a human
stone vine
yes zulu
opaque forum
twisted
lilac island
It looks like an attempt at a human.
stone vine
like listen ill explain using mother
opaque forum
Think about the umbrella corporation and their virus.
stone vine
and my internet is fucked again one sec
opaque forum
What did it do to their humans
ashen sentinel
lols that sucks
opaque forum
In Resident Evil the umbrella corp. made a virus that mutates humans into those zombie beasts.
upbeat frost
we still don't know how spitters are maed
ashen sentinel
but some turned into regular zombies and other turned more specialized zombie
opaque forum
A similar thing could be happening to these sleepers but not zombification
ashen sentinel
they dont want to truth to leak out
stone vine
let me explain using my least favorite enemy, the mother
opaque forum
The mother’s face stares into your soul.
ashen sentinel
wen uve seen death aint no going bak
ashen sentinel
ha all the time
stone vine
So taking a look at the way the mother is made, the middle of the body contains slight pinkish fleshy parts that look out of place. Connected to that same area are the cocoons on the mother's "stomach". That directly quarrelates with the cocoons being the main point of "biomass" on the mother, renderring it as the weakest point. Thus why we shoot the nests and not the actual mother.
ashen sentinel
wouldnt that mak the mother freaking huge
stone vine
Does that make any better sense?
opaque forum
No it wouldnt make the mother huge
stone vine
The mothers are huge because they contain more than one human
opaque forum
Only huge mothers can be huge
stone vine
And normal mother is actually very big
opaque forum
And long
ashen sentinel
well we dont kno how many offspring she has in her nest so size could vary
upbeat frost
fused together like dead space monsters
stone vine
babies grow
opaque forum
No not fusing
stone vine
Grown together
opaque forum
Reverse mitosis
stone vine
The sleepers werent actively fused after transformation
they were already growing as one form
The biomass took what it was given and created a mother
upbeat frost
Mother makes a scout death scream
stone vine
Also, since the mother creats the "nests" herself it would actually classify em as cocoons
ashen sentinel
maybe closer connection with scout and mother
stone vine
Which still supports my bianhua theory
Oh yes we also do rarely see any shooter specimen but its ok because i have screenshots to share
With u guys
opaque forum
With Baby Cthulhu being our biggest threat we can conclude that the same thing that happened with the creation of the mother happened to Baby Cthulhu but on a much larger scale.
opaque forum
That does not seems logical knowing that the scout walks instead of crawls...
opaque forum
bish’s bianhua theory can explain the relationship between the scouts and the mother.
upbeat frost
Fog
opaque forum
No
upbeat frost
Spitter
opaque forum
Just have patience
stone vine
lmfao its alright
im just gonna tell you "why" fog infects people
Alright so between fog there is a direct connection with the moss that grows the biomass. Thinking of this factor basically means that the fog allows the spores of it to travel through the body. Making its way to either the intestine for males, or the head for females. This would then cause a growth of said biomass sprouting from the patient, allowing it to slowly deform its body and start the proccess of biomass growth.
upbeat frost
Flood spores in halo
stone vine
Now, that also allows explanation for dead bodies.
upbeat frost
the fog may work like that
opaque forum
Potatoes shhh
stone vine
lmao
upbeat frost
Oh k
stone vine
its fine let him speak
and no more ks
they are yellow
😭
Like I said. "Cut off", right. Well we know scientists in a hidden project underground dont give a shit for human wellbeing. Who says they cant just cut off the biomass and research it remotely.
ashen sentinel
that makes a very good point since moss is always wet wen growing and since its underground hence the fog
lol so much for baby cuthulhu
stone vine
Now that doesnt mean the biomass cant grow on its own. Just that it could also sprout inside of a human life form.
So :0 thats my theory as of right now.
It may change or stay the same come R4 but who knows
upbeat frost
and they become creatures?
stone vine
Well yes
opaque forum
Thank you Bish for further proving my Plant-human theory.
ashen sentinel
all the water vapor could be transporting spores no problem
stone vine
Yeah thats my take on it.
opaque forum
It’s clear to know that the spores are not technically airborne because they are not everywhere.
stone vine
Though like I said, it may change and I don't think its 100 percent correct.
ashen sentinel
that also makes y we all wear gas masks
opaque forum
To try and filter through the fog shitily.
stone vine
Yeah the filter could be small enough not to permit spores through, but maybe some of the infectious material.
That may be why we dont transform, but simply cough and such.
As we can see the workers weren't wearing masks at all.
ashen sentinel
if a gas mask can stave off chemical warfare i think it could handle small amount of infectious spores
opaque forum
Depends on how big the spores are.
stone vine
Yeah
opaque forum
And we can’t notice them until we breath it in
stone vine
But
opaque forum
There may be some fog levels that are not infected
And we will not know
Until we enter that fog
ashen sentinel
isnt it how thick the fog looks?
stone vine
Well the only place there would be infectious fog would be in a place with spitters, or a leak of plants.
So vents and all that
and pipes
Pipes carry that infection around. The nyxos and omneco ones.
opaque forum
The thickness of the fog does not show you if it is infectious or not
ashen sentinel
oh i thought it looked different
opaque forum
It’s all just a map exploring guess.
stone vine
I thought it looked more dense
the infectious fog
or like something else was in it
Ill get pics
Infectious
ashen sentinel
right lik u really couldnt see if there is a sleeper unless u get within 10ft ish
opaque forum
Im going to compare the size of the spores as the size of a single grain of pollen. Would you notice any difference in density with 10000 grains of pollen in dense fog?
Also the color is a bit more green if you want to get serious.
ashen sentinel
or is that lighting?
opaque forum
So the only true way to notice fog is infectious is the color
stone vine
Yeah and the crackly noise
ashen sentinel
no yeah ur right, walls dont looks green
stone vine
when you step in it
opaque forum
Yes the noise of comical acid touching something
ashen sentinel
wth how do ur pics look clear and mine look super grainy
stone vine
lemme see the pic?
ashen sentinel
i honestly hav no idea how to show screenshots from steam on discord
opaque forum
You have to save them onto your PC instead of your photos. It’s a weird process and I hate it.
opaque forum
Transfer your photos into your files and then you can send them into Discord.
ashen sentinel
opaque forum
Anyways back to questioning reality
ashen sentinel
hmm thats really weird its grainy as hell on steam
opaque forum
Looks clean to me
ashen sentinel
lol
opaque forum
So.. now we know how to tell which type of fog is infectious and which one is not
stone vine
What a nice looking dead body
opaque forum
And that the infection is not airborne
stone vine
Oh yeah
And also my theory would explain why there are human parts in the nyxos coolers.
o-o
o~o
opaque forum
But it is indeed transferring by liquid
opaque forum
Please explain bish
opaque forum
Body
stone vine
Okie
opaque forum
Im still guessing the first spot to any infected host is the brain though. Have to get rid of that for the major change.
stone vine
Alright so there are body parts randomly littered next to dead bodies in the Complex. These body parts can be found in some of the Nyxos fridges. If they really were just taking biomass away from workers then they would also want other parts of the bodies for experimentation later on. So they take the limbs.
Put them in fridges and then use them to make things.
opaque forum
I wonder if they tried to create their own limbs through biomass
stone vine
Or test with.
They probably did try and create sleepers.
They probably made the mothers.
ashen sentinel
ha scientist dont waste any part of the human body
stone vine
"what would happen if we added more bodies?"
Well this piece of shit is made
Can we make it bigger?
Big mother is made
opaque forum
“Maybe Baby Cthulhu would rise up and wreck our shit but who actually knows?”
ashen sentinel
of course some asshole is gunna say that they always do
stone vine
i am smart
opaque forum
“Lets test is anyways”
stone vine
and went crazy on the complex
And now
big sad
facility go break
sleeper get free housing without taxing
opaque forum
Well Baby Cthulhu is huge and im guessing the hole is just a limb of what it is.
stone vine
No taxation without representation
the sleepers said
YEs
the hole
is explained by baby cthulu
😉 see
Makes sense
opaque forum
It just when “eat shit” and punched right through it’s hissy fit.
ashen sentinel
so we should all jump into the void
stone vine
I think that baby cthulu is smart
Its making an army of sorts.
Using its other companions, the mothers.
Hm makes more sense
opaque forum
With that many melted human minds of course it has the same level of intellect as humans.
stone vine
I mean its figured out how to somehow get C1 to move closer?
So that it has access to the charger biomass
opaque forum
The complex now rests on Baby Cthulhu and C1 Alpha proves that.
stone vine
Baby cthulu basically is the complex
at this point
Now thatd also explain waves of enemies
ashen sentinel
oh hav u guys noticed the spikes coming out of the hole wen first going into an area
stone vine
There is an audible scream everytime a wave spawns. It doesn't sound like a "wave".
Does it
ashen sentinel
damn i really shouldve taken a pic
opaque forum
That is from Baby Cthulhu’s punch Zulu
opaque forum
When the hole was formed
ashen sentinel
a tenticle
stone vine
Well it did make the hole
ashen sentinel
i thought it was twisted metal but it looked more lik stone maybe
stone vine
Also what if baby cthulu is like a mother, but can instead send out actually fully developed sleepers.
As in, it can spawn armies.
Of red sleepers.
opaque forum
Would make sense because of how the babies charge with the mothers screams.
opaque forum
Mutated mother
stone vine
BIg big big mother yeah
opaque forum
Or the MMother
stone vine
Or pMother
who knows maybe it is the pMother
or it could be something else we'll just have to see
Though the pMother trial samples basically prove that this wasn't just an accident
opaque forum
Prime to me seems like one less than Baby Cthulhu on threat scale.
opaque forum
Like there is a Prime Mother, Prime shadow, Prime scout, etc.
stone vine
well prime means like first most important thing
stone vine
It can mean first planned, strongest, important etc
basically
Biggest thing of its kind
opaque forum
Wasnt the pmother an accident though? Like they had mothers already but somehow managed to make it better?
upbeat frost
Enhance
opaque forum
Maybe
Im just glad to know that there are more facts supporting my Plant-human theory about the creation of sleepers.
Now im heading to sleep
Until next time
Later
fair lion
do we have any info on why sleepers glow
harsh spire
the worms?
fair lion
well i'm not sure what does the glowing but i don't think it's just the tongue
copper iron
doesn't it mean they're "listening"?
fair bridge
It does seem to be related to if it's a striker or shooter, strikers glow in the chest area which would indicate that if the "tongue" is the parasitic thing then that is indeed what glows
Shooters seem to glow more where they have black pustules
Not sure if those are more so their version of parasite
fair lion
They don't necessarily glow when listening, can detect you just fine by just being awake
Also the glow changes color
fair bridge
Darker red when aggravated yeah
fair lion
Yeah
But actually i never paid attention, they might have more than 2 colors
Reacting to flashing, noise, others dying
I'd go see if i weren't so lazy
fair bridge
So far it seems to be the two types, passive glow and aggravated, from playing it seems that the passive one has the same colour if it's a light source or noise
Could be interesting if they made it different based on source of disturbance, visual feedback of sorts
fair lion
Yeah I'd love to see glow being an actual indicator of what they're doing
Like how in most games you pay attention to where they're looking, fov and so on
opaque forum
Im saying it’s some sort of controllable bioluminescent which are effected by different reactants creating the two colors we see.
Makes sense?
royal gull
There's bioluminescence in real life amongst muschrooms and insects, they do react to each others emmiting lights (snu-snu or come-at-me-bro lights). Different reactions from sleepers are mostly for convenience and gameplay though (you run/shoot they go red). We can't explain everything we encounter.
opaque forum
But it’s nice to just say we can
lilac island
"We can't explain everything we encounter." asinine, how dare you. We can explain everything we encounter because a video game is built with those limits. Anyone can find the limits.
royal gull
I do agree with the statement about video games are built with limits, that's my point about how they integrate bioluminescence as a new form of behaviour in the game. Can't find it in the nature ? How about we create a new one for the game reality.
stone vine
Actually I would say this is one of the more explainable things
Seeing as we know they emit a glow and “tick” when they search it is probably sonar
So, yes, some stuff is unexplainable but I don’t think that this is really one of em
fair lion
seeing how they react to sound and not vision, what part of it is sonar? why don't they detect that there's suddenly a player here
no memory?
then how do they detect that you "silently" killed a sleeper
stone vine
Well just like bats sleepers can probably hear things as well, and by making that tick noise we hear is the only time they can actively find us without us running or making excessive noise
They only detect within a close range or if one nearby is searching
stone vine
If we don’t move while they search they assume we aren’t there, if we keep moving we send them into a rapid search
And if you continue moving it will detect you and finally become aggravated
That’s also why when you’re far enough away they don’t detect your movements, the ticks they release only cover a small area, meaning that beyond a certain point nothing exists to them
fair lion
i have enough mechanical knowledge for this tyvm
but to me the weird part is how they detect you killed one of them (outside the cluster case)
stone vine
You mean while sleeping or beeping?
late basalt
Sbleeping
fair lion
while listening
late basalt
To heavy metal
Fuck if the game connected to my Spotify I would insta aggro every enemy in the complex
stone vine
Well when we kill a sleeper it falls and makes a small thud on the ground. A sleeper ticking across the path a bit might detect the hammer swing, impact, and final thud on the floor.
fair lion
load of holes on that one chief, but thinking about it, i think i'll just draw the line of "not lore related" on that
verbal flame
Its more a mechanic thing than lore i feel
fair lion
for the swing and impact it's that you can swing at air all you want, for the thuds, you hitting the ground is somehow less loud
basically what i said veggy
verbal flame
Yea
stone vine
Mm yeah across the room might be mechanical, but i don’t think the general concept is
It’s alright though it doesn’t exactly matter atm if it’s lore related or not because it doesn’t help explain anything
fair lion
Random thought, their detection to killing and others alerting might be lore related to how the biotracker works
opaque forum
Knowing more on how the sleepers works can help us identify what it is based around and can help us understand how to handle them or how they were made originally.
This game helps us decipher what is happening with its game mechanics so looking at game mechanics and understanding them is apart of the lore and lore making process.
Never cut out the mechanics until 85-90% sure it’s not helping.
And with the sonar locator it would be like clicking and hitting a statue when we are standing still.
To them we are doctor who’s weeping angles
Or at least we try to be
So in the topic of what are we dealing with... do we know the closest type of IRL fungus is to the fungi we are dealing with?
stone vine
Uhhh let me check
opaque forum
Right now im leading to the Cordyceps but im not to sure because that leads to zombies.
It does have the fungi growing on body, and it controlling the hosts movements until the hosts death type of thing but GTFO’s hosts die before any known symptom or there would be “zombies” in the game.
And the fungi/biomass still grow and control the unrotting corpse of its victims.
stone vine
take a look at this
Read the symptoms involved.
Im trying to find the specific fungi.
opaque forum
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/lab-rat/glowing-fungi-for-studying-infectious-diseases/ found this one too but havent looked through jt.
stone vine
The symptoms in my website do seem quite familiar to what the sleepers may have gone through.
Its possible that this is a much more body destroying version.
And can do a lot more than just affect lymph nodes.
opaque forum
Dang
All we need to know now are if the people infected coughed blood or not
Or maybe puked blood too.
Also if the head was affected some symptoms would be nausea and amnesia.
You think this fungus is a mix between different fungi?
stone vine
Well yes, it looks like they did.
The body is covered in blood and the mouth is quite literally just blood.
The patients probably did express that sort of behavior.
opaque forum
Oh good they bled horribly and forgot about it until the next day.
So lungs and stomach were affected as well as the brain.
stone vine
Maybe not a mix, just its not a fungi on common earth.
So it probably has traces of whatever was in the meteor.
Which causes it to act like that in the patients.
opaque forum
Im going off of what is the fungi based off of.
stone vine
This extremely toxic plant poison was famously used to kill the Bulgarian dissident Georgi Markov, exiled in London. On September 7 1978, he was waiting for a bus near Waterloo Bridge, when he felt an impact on the back of his right thigh. Looking round he saw a man bending down to pick up an umbrella. Markov was soon taken to hospital with a high fever – and died three days later. An autopsy revealed a tiny sphere made of a platinum-iridium alloy in Markov’s thigh. The sphere had been drilled to take a small amount of ricin and may have been fired from an air gun hidden in the umbrella.
This is a small paragraph i picked up.
opaque forum
Dang
stone vine
Iridium can be quite toxic and probably increase the effects.
Its stated in some of the terminals there was an unknown metal alloy in some of the artifacts
opaque forum
so we have a super fungi then because of the asteroid
stone vine
Yeah its more or less super fungi
And i believe it is defintely a fungus because of the Truth AM audio log.
opaque forum
Who wouldnt want to make weapons out of super fungi.
stone vine
Well uh normal humans
o-o
Not evil scientist tho they would want to make a bioweapon.
stone vine
Well guess well see if we can interact or collect research from anything next rundown.
opaque forum
So plant-human sleeper theory ~60% confirmed?
stone vine
Also the Truth AM log the guy pauses and says "Mushrooms, right? Keep them in the dark and feed them bullshit."
Seems kinda like a clue hm.
opaque forum
Cant believe we are dealing with plant people
We need to release the vegetarians into the complex...
Maybe the vegans as well
Plot twist our four prisoners are vegan and that is the missing link to why they are connected.
Ah good laugh. Im heading out now. Need to pack for college.
opaque forum
And 10chambers if you need more voice actors come find me. 
stone vine
I can be the voice of the dog
lilac island
@fair lion Biotracker lore?? 😳😳😳
I this Bishop is the Warden
i have proof
when have u ever seen them in the same place together?
willow tinsel
I actually think that the sledgehammer is
you haven't seen them in the same place, have you?
lilac island
sledgehammer is bishop?!
willow tinsel
correct
upbeat frost
Ah so what did I miss here
stone vine
Not much
stone vine
Yeah a little bit I would like to do some more research abt it tho
frail pollen
@carmine dawn I think you meant to post that in the #gtfo-media ? looks cool btw
stone vine
yes it does look cool 
carmine dawn
Right
opaque forum
You do know the mines are AOE
And that many close to the door kind of fucks you up when the sleepers make it close to you.
frail pollen
@obsidian pasture is this lore related?
obsidian pasture
Sorry was curious
opaque forum
It looks cool but it wont work in practice
frail pollen
@obsidian pasture let's be sure to keep the media posted in this lore channel to lore, and use #gtfo-media for regular GTFO media. Thanks.
late basalt
@stone vine
lilac island
goooooooooooooooooood
vagrant fiber
Does Warden have access to smart gun technology like homing bullets and remote detonating c4 charges.
late basalt
Wouldn’t see why not. But we have no proof either way
fair bridge
And if he did, depending on what the surface situation is it may be harder to justify supplying them to the complex
stone vine
Well the surface is probably fucked tbh
fair bridge
Albeit, if they have access to a black market of sorts or at least some form of covert supply routes, perhaps
fair bridge
Well, I don't know if the whole surface of the planet is gone
fair bridge
That's what I meant by suppliers, somewhere on the globe
"Why you need smart weapons for a prison"
stone vine
as the tsunamis would have wiped out cities
fair bridge
But then again, could all be supplied by Dreyfus or something and no one but the company knows
fair bridge
To an extent, the weapons are made by an arms manufacturer if we go by the names so I presumed smart bullet tech would also be the case
C4 charges for sure, repurposed mining excavation charges
I can see that
stone vine
Well we know the HEL guns are made by omneco
a piping company similar to Nyxos
involved heavily in the lab aspect of the complex
fair bridge
I wouldn't be too surprised if many of the corps have a branch out into arms manufacturing
fair bridge
The status?
stone vine
Yeah thats new
fair bridge
I've seen it this rundown so I imagine it came with it
fair bridge
There you have it
late basalt
Hmm. Never noticed. Then again I dont watch my steam list
hot burrow
I noticed it when I was playing R1C2
lilac island
Same.
frail pollen
that's someone doing something they shouldn't be doing
it's not lore related at all
it's not anything related
and I'm not just saying that to distract you
but like.. I don't want you looking in a direction that is false information
hot burrow
Wait what
frail pollen
don't use someone else's steam / game to dig for clues. use your own.
hot burrow
Oh
frail pollen
even our bug hunter versions are sanitized on the names to the point you can't have a friend who's a bug hunter and look and be like "ohh i see R4 blah"
lilac island
cringe
stone vine
cringe
lilac island
regardless i hope to see unique things on our steam for the rundowns
hot burrow
Egnirc
lilac island
Ck2 does a great job at that.
late basalt
With an oversized flyswatter
lilac island
demoted.
late basalt
Anyways
stone vine
no
late basalt
Yes
late basalt
DMR lore
lilac island
"It was a mistake" - Van Auken
late basalt
Oof
obsidian frost
Yo does this community have a general name for the creatures in the game
stone vine
Yeah
sleepers
and there are specific ones
such as spitter, shooter, striker, charger, scout, mother/birther, babies, big mother, shadows, and hybrids
opaque forum
And we cant forget about the Primes even though we only know the mother has a prime version running amuck.
opaque forum
We have no idea if Baby Cthulhu is Prime mother so we can keep Baby Cthulhu for a while.
stone vine
yeah
i just know prime mother exists
whether weve seen it or not
and we know it was most likely a bioweapon
opaque forum
Or was secretly becoming one
stone vine
thats a possibility as well
opaque forum
Black market is always hiding stuff
stone vine
but there were trial samples
so i wouldnt make it the most likely one
lets just hope R4 has some more answers
opaque forum
Well they were scientists so they were making samples for analysis and testing.
stone vine
yes but "trial" usually doesnt come beforehand
opaque forum
And some of them decided “you know what lets sell this shit”
stone vine
well who knows
hopefully
we get more dead bodies
a lot of the answers are in dead bodies
opaque forum
Is dauda changing at a slower rate?
obsidian frost
Ah I thought sleepers was the name of the class
opaque forum
Well he was affected by something that is changing him or did change him.
stone vine
even if they move they are techincally all in a sleeping state
until they are alerted
so its like a security system made out of flesh 😄
opaque forum
I think the sleepers of more like an ant colony.
opaque forum
Instead of working they are idly protecting
stone vine
Mhm
I do think that theyre trying to go higher up
or atleast obtain something
like i said creating an army possibly
stone vine
here is my break down of dauda
Dauda is a Nigerian male who is described as “cunning, determined, and secretive.” Dauda narrates the World Premiere Trailer, stating, “It comes every night without fail. There are different people every time, but somehow, I recognize them. They are screaming at me. Such hate and anger. I don’t know what I have done to them. They want me to feel what they feel… Then I wake up. I am not sweating or screaming. I’m perfectly calm. I just open my eyes and I’m awake, and it is not a nightmare. It’s just part of me. Who I am. I don’t fight it, I just… live around it.” Whether this indicates Dauda has a close connection with the Complex, the sleepers, or memories Warden has given him is unknown. All of them seem like plausible theories. What we do need to figure out is who “They”, and “It” are. They could be a multitude of people. Though, I don’t think that They is referring to Warden in any way, so we can cross that off the list. They most likely refers to the sleepers or the previous prisoners that died trying to accomplish the same given task from Warden.
Basically what we know so far about him
opaque forum
That would make sense if it were dead prisoners because they were also connected to the Warden as well
stone vine
The flashes of sleeper images during the trailer would imply more of a sleeper based past, but we can't be 100% sure
opaque forum
And when opening up the game we see flashbacks of charging sleepers and high pitched screaming which could be what Dauda is seeing.
In his dreams that is
worthy flower
i always called the big mother, the grandmother.
opaque forum
Maybe Dauda can see what other prisoners saw and felt before, during, and after they fell during their mission. Maybe in every game we fail in is actually four other guys but dauda sees them has himself and his crew while his crew succeeds every time.
It would explain why we hear the crank grab us after we fail a mission even though we are not close to hole anymore, dauda is waking up. Im not saying this game is a dream im saying it is taken from dauda’s ability
And every time we succeed that is or potentially could be Dauda’s crews success.
“But why do we only see one person while playing the game?” You could be asking.
Well imagine we are tapping into Dauda’s head and watching what one person does.
Since he is connected to them maybe we can tap into that and see them through him.
We could just be scientists under the warden observing what the prisoners are doing through Dauda’s head.
And that injection? A transmitter.
Or something that can neurally send video images to screens
This may be the most far fetched thing I thought of and the hardest one to confirm but it is possible with how little information we have currently about Dauda and his ability.
Another question you may be asking is “well why dont they continue looking at the fallen prisoners to understand more of the transformation process?” To put it simply, there is no point. Sleepers don’t have eyes so they are in darkness and they can’t see emotions so what is the point of trying.
They cant track dead prisoners through nothing
And Baby Cthulhu? Going up to get Dauda for his ability to connect to peoples minds?
That would be one strong army when you can upgrade your mind using Dauda’s untapped potential to telepathically control and entire army without having to make a noise.
Making your whereabouts virtually unknown for the rest of your existence while you play god.
Right now it’s an ant colony. But if nothing can stop it, Hive mind.
And Dauda is the key while the other three are protecting him.
Bishop because he knows the layout.
(Maybe) Woods being the heavy lifter and hard hitter
And (Maybe) Hackett being the stress reliever so that these four do not start fights with each other.
And to keep them questioning less the Warden also send them down into the complex knowing the risks if they fail.
Feel free to debunk this @stone vine
Or put this in your list of theories if you like it enough but give me credit for it.
opaque forum
This is called the Key Theory and I now like it.
shell crest
Can anyone explain the lore? I’m quite new to the game and whatnot.
opaque forum
Wait warden
Let bish do this
True
You know what go ahead
@shell crest listen closely now
Warden is explaining
shell crest
Yes–
shell crest
I presume this is Rundown 3?
opaque forum
Yes
Every rundown so far is dealt with how Warden said
The actual Lore is this
We are in the complex run by cooperation that run the world
During one of their experiments something went wrong and caused an Outbreak destroying this complex
The prisoners under The Warden’s control are then sent down to investigate and retrieve what ever The Warden wants
And failure means death
That is the simplified known lore about this game.
Does this satisfy your tastes @shell crest?
opaque forum
Great. Feel free to join groups and complete missions and helping us gather information for the lore. Do what you want.
Have fun
opaque forum
Shame. Anyways feel free to explore the chats and understand how to play the game
shell crest
Thank you!
opaque forum
And come back if you want to read any of the guesses we have.
Now warden... how do you like the Key theory?
It is completely far fetched and a complete guess so I have little proof as to why this would be true.
But im glad that this is a possibility and can be the reason why our four characters are special
And also an explination to 
symbol, why we get readings in the intro, and why we need to inject before we can play the game.
And done saving the theory to a file
So I can bring it back up later
I used up all of my brain power... if I cant sleep expect me back on.
upbeat frost
Sleepers
solar nova
||We also know the Complex is related to an absurdly powerful earthquake that occurred prior to its existence, centered on the Yucatan Peninsula. This is likely related to whatever peaked Santonian's interest to begin with, but it couldn't have been caused by Santonian unless it was something Santonian was working on prior to the complex. We at least know the rundown holes are not related to this event, as they were clearly formed after the complex's construction||
fair lion
maybe sleepers don't do anything in terms of infecting someone, there's something special to do that
dead space basically
stone vine
Yeah
opaque forum
All sleepers seem to do is try to weaken you to the point where you can’t fight anything so they can drag you off somewhere or kill you to grab supplies.
stone vine
Or it’s possible they really don’t have anything to do other than protect whatever’s down there
maybe they don’t do anything with us
If they needed to eat why not eat the dead bodies
we would see bite marks and stuff missing out of the dead bodies if they ate them but all we see is blood and exploded limbs
opaque forum
Limbs are torn from bodies all around the facility so something is happening.
lilac island
i love how we're assuming the sleepers dont kill for fun
or they're not like the monsters from the quiet or whatever that movie was that hunt down noise in all forms
drowsy pebble
A quiet place?
lilac island
Yeah that thing, I think.
Movie made no sense but the monster was unique, if a mary sue apparently.
upbeat frost
Let's talk about the Shooter
opaque forum
If the sleepers killed for fun they would be a lot more active and alert of their surroundings.
lilac island
Not necessarily, since they already are.
Seeing how they operate when alerted, the croaking and pulsing and then brutal violence to follow.
I can believe they just went berserk and started killing people at random because basic survival told them it was them or us essentially.
Plenty of animals also hunt/kill for sport, we know too little on them to really determine how they think and react outside of what we can see, clearly, through personal interaction.
lilac island
also how cold is it/hot down in the facility is it?
dull hill
flat halo
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flat halo
I think
opaque forum
It’s near the equator off the coast of mexico in an underground facility. I would say cold because of the fog.
And the way you described their patterns is basic self defense mechanism for living creatures.
We enacted their fight/flight response which for them is kill or be killed.
fair bridge
Temperature would depend heavily as to if the area the expedition takes place has a functional climate regulator still working or not
Realistically the deeper you go and the hotter it gets
So unless some form of climate control is working you'd expect a rather warm to hot environment
So for instance the labs likely have some form of climate regulation, VS say digsite that could lack it
vapid chasm
why did I just cook a baby?
flat halo
You arent cooking it
solar nova
We're not even down a km, so it's not gonna be that hot.
opaque forum
The layers underground act similarity to the atmosphere when it comes to temperature. But instead of cooling off it just gets warmer and warmer. While looking around the complex it most likely seems that it is using it’s reserve power which is specifically used for important stuff needing to be cooled. Showing the graphs above tells us that we do not travel past the Lithosphere guessing we do not pass 20 km and so that we know that our temperatures are around the 500C range when we reach the bottom if 20 km is indeed the bottom. Because of the labs and storage units/coolers we know that there will be AC working with this reserve power because with reserve. Only important things get power but the lower you go the hotter it will get so the more AC will be turned on for people being in that floor making the lower you go, the more important power to cool the level is to keep it’s inhabitants happy and ready for work. With the research I did and the stuff I already knew you can pretty much say that the lower we go the cooler it will be because of Reserve power keeping the AC’s running while higher up becomes what ever the air temperature is on the surface being equator temperatures.
And @solar nova we did go down farther past 1 km and we have a potential 20km depth with where we are located.
@fair bridge here is my educated argument for you
Remember to look at the graphs
solar nova
We've never actually be past 1km, E1 is only 924m
989m is actually the lowest, which is R3D1.
waxen granite
Different rundowns have different depths so E doesn't necessarily have to be lower than D on another rundown
opaque forum
It would make the most sense if it did
solar nova
We don't go there, and we don't know the actual depth of the "ghost" tier. We're definitely not able to go down 2km, which was my point.
We're barely at a depth where geothermal energy should matter.
waxen granite
They could be different sites or the same site and different locations (probably the same site as of now)
opaque forum
It is the same site and same location with the same hole as of R2
waxen granite
#garganta
opaque forum
Yet we meet C1 Alpha again
solar nova
Mhm? That seems to be more of a throwback, and the alpha level is separate from R1 and R2.
opaque forum
Not on our lore making. You see C1 has changed since last time we saw it
It was moved lower
waxen granite
GTFO is a simulation we are all in the sims 5 #elonmuskwasright
opaque forum
That was debunked by the devs. Sorry birbus.
waxen granite
I am just kidding haha
solar nova
ALPHA is changed in terms of the room layouts themselves, so we can't really base anything off of where it is.
opaque forum
Rayalot in order for this to continue we need Bish. He actually has a lot more info than me on this and he can settle this argument without our uneducated bickering. @stone vine we kind of need you for info on C1 Alpha.
Birbus it is possible we are actually viewing things on screens. Thought you should know.
solar nova
I'm fairly confident in my knowledge about the game, thanks.
waxen granite
@solar nova 1400 hours of game time lol
opaque forum
And I am too Rayalot but that does not stop me from asking people who know more.
solar nova
I don't know what new info you'd get.
Alpha's zones 10, 11, 12, and part of 13 are taken from the alpha network test level.
Part of 13 and zones 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20 are new.
Not sure how consistent the props are.
stone vine
hold on i am in a game ill come and chat in a bit
opaque forum
Understandable Bish
stone vine
mmm
opaque forum
The map of Alpha now could be from the site moving which allowed stuff not originally accessible accessible now.
As things do when moving stuff around
solar nova
Zone doors and everything else would have moved in a rather orderly fashion, so I'm leaning no.
opaque forum
Not really. This map shows all earthquakes spots around the globe. Mexico is one of them and near by it is the Yucatan crater which is where our setting is.
solar nova
The earthquake is pre-complex to begin with.
opaque forum
Making this able to be jostled around without any trouble
solar nova
Given what we know about it, the quake was ~2049 while the complex exists sometime ~2050 or after.
frail pollen
what's your question about R3C1 / Network alpha?
solar nova
Also, earthquakes are rather destructive.
opaque forum
Doc we have Bish to help us. Thanks for the offer though.
frail pollen
... fine, don't get the help of one of the community managers
opaque forum
So that the complex builds to prepare for earthquakes.
It’s OK doc. You will find work here soon
frail pollen
not like i talk to the devs every day or know about the building of R3C1 or anything
opaque forum
Not a normal earthquake. But a 9.8 magnitude one yes.
solar nova
...
opaque forum
Doc this is lore... lets keep the truth in the dark until R4 please.
And an earthquake created by a very big being as well that may not have been registered yet.
frail pollen
I can tell you that the devs reconstructed R3C1 to be as close to the alpha as possible, that was the intention, however due to the design of certain rooms, it meant that they weren't the same as they were during the alpha, so they had to swap them out, and as you got further out past the fog room it starts diverging in design due to the tiles being different and not able to fully reconstruct it, plus having a slightly different layout is fun as well
opaque forum
With what Doc said in mind we can say that this is a moved Alpha and some things just opened up and changed due to the moving.
Thanks doc for the unwanted but needed help.
frail pollen
the level changes has nothing to do with lore though for R3C1
Just putting it out there so you don't go off sideways
opaque forum
Tell Bish that I dare you
He built theories around this idea and he would hate for that to be denied
frail pollen
I enjoy reading all the theories
opaque forum
And how many are somewhat close to the truth?
frail pollen
And how many are somewhat close to the truth?
@opaque forum no comment
flat halo
0
opaque forum
And thou remains quiet when the truth comes out
We got em bois there is at least 1!
flat halo
I think my theory about the complex being an abandoned pizza hut is pretty accurate
late basalt
Yes
waxen granite
@flat halo I was leaning towards a papa john's
opaque forum
What? What do you think they tried to do with the fungus then? Make the all new Mushroom pizza flavor that can get you high in one bite?
waxen granite
Its not a fungus its a cheese
flat halo
The final boss IS papa john
late basalt
No. Costco size pizza
opaque forum
Doc. Know this. Sometimes it is better to lie about the number instead of not talking. Since we know you talk to the devs we would have to believe your word on it. By not taking we know we are close, maybe even closer than we think to the point of 100% correct.
Next time lie and put down a random number
solar nova
Jfc
waxen granite
Guys @flat halo is correct we don't even need this channel anymore
late basalt
*Halo Reach except its pizza time
frail pollen
Caretaker, that's why I'm not answering 😛
opaque forum
Because you dont want to tell us anything. Which is neither a lie or a truth or that you are too afraid of us knowing the truth that you would rather not speak. Either way we know we are close and you can either continue saying nothing or speak a lie/truth.
You know what you should do?
Say two lies and a truth
But make them all sound correct
opaque forum
Make them make sense in a way that we have to wait in order to solve it.
late basalt
opaque forum
Or are you afraid of the exposure of giving us some form of lead to get us to solve the mystery of the complex faster than predicted?
Your actions now will speak louder than words in this chat while two lies and a truth can lead to so many red herrings and so many hilarious theory possibilities that we could believe and that you can enjoy more of.
So what will it be? A game of secrets or a game of deception?
Your choice Doc.
stone vine
yikes this went from discord to ace attorney in about 7 seconds
opaque forum
I have that ability.