Did you not see them?
#gtfo-lore
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No!
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I'm kind of impressed as to how you've somehow avoided all of these enemies
Left most motion triggered door in the generator room, the one you have to go down a ladder for, in that zone there is some fog, as well as 2-3 spitters on the wall
It acts as a bit of a jump scare for anyone that haven't met one before, as you'll just get hit after a screech
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I can go far in A2 solo but not as far as I would hope for a run.
A3 i found out yesterday that I could solo that entire thing
But there is nothing there other than the reactor
And A1 i just get fucked at the first alarm door.
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A3 has an easier choke point to manage.
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Peculiar
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I've only really played levels as a 4 stack, so I don't know all the strats for solo
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Well no I mean, where to hold out during alarm doors or how to kite and what have you
There's like a science
Some people have Hammer-fu as well on their side
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Melee is so fun solo.
It ends up being the only thing you can do
If you get swarmed you are done for
So just sprint your heart out and charge your attack to one hit each enemy
The mines work best in solo. You get to set up a path to run while efficiently killing off a large chunk of swarm chasing after you.
The other two weapons are just for preference but at least have one fast shooting heavy duty weapon to deal with any creature rushing fast.
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Fast enemies are pretty much the rundown in a nutshell apparently, some kind of bug that sped them up a bit
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The giants are the most likely guaranteed death in a solo run. After you deal with the speedsters deal with them.
If you can, then avoid them at all costs.
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this aint lore
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This helps find lore
For people who want to go insane and dont care about their mental state
Like the four prisoners we play as
When character customization comes out does that mean that there are more than 4 prisoners?
stone vine
no
when i change clothes am i a new person?
also solo runs have nothing to do with lore
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If you are with an identical you are you still the same person?
stone vine
? what
character customization is in a lot of games dude
you just change some clothes or whatever on the character
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Unless you dont just change clothes in the customization
Which is still a posibility
stone vine
i doubt that
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Until the devs prove otherwise
stone vine
introducing new voiclines and tons of new models as a small team would be hard
i dont think customization will have to do with lore
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New characters may be a thing way down the line, but we are more likely to indeed just have cosmetic options before that
stone vine
its just a fun little thing for the community
yeah, I dont want this to turn into a huge character select game, I like the 4 prisoner lore as is
i think it would ruin it tbh
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Well it would if it was say 10 new characters
But one or two, I don't think it would break anything
stone vine
yeah but u can only have 4 prisoners in a expedition, adding 2 more would break the og team up and scramble lore
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Just means more prisoners with some form of link to the complex
stone vine
plus we play as these 4 most likely because they are special
im really against adding more
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Well we know that Bishop definitely has ties with Santonian, and Hackett is wearing a Santonian shirt
stone vine
yeah but a santonian shirt means nothing atm
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But Dauda and Woods are anyone's guess as to how they tie in
Yes that's what I mean, I don't think there is any hard lore established to make them any more special
stone vine
dauda is the narrator of the premiere trailer
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Maybe they have seen something that santonian didnt want
stone vine
we have special info on dauda
dauda and bishop are the only 2 characters atm with any "special" qualities
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I still believe every character we play has been apart of the collapse and are the survivors of what ever happened down there.
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Is that enough to say they aren't allowed to sit an expedition out in favour of another character?
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If indeed there are many prisoners, realistically there would be more to send in
stone vine
im just saying a santonian shirt aint much evidence
but we play as these 4 for a reason
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Infiltration Bish
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Well the "reason" in this case is it's a 4 man team so they wanted 4 different personalities for at least the base game
stone vine
yes 4 main people we dont need to change that
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If the game was a 3 player coop they would have made 3 of them
stone vine
yes?
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I'm just saying that more characters doesn't make it bad really, but it's likely not something to expect any time soon anyway
If they are considering adding more
stone vine
i think it is, you can have ur opinions tho, its just my personal preference
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The santonian shirt could mean that a group of outsiders could have infiltrated the complex
stone vine
warden?
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That's lofty
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Santonian industries built the thing
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The prisoners are sent down by the warden
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Shirts would be available to any member of staff
stone vine
yes
they are
shirts can be taken from the complex
there are santonian clothes everywhere
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But good shirts?
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Yes
stone vine
most likely yes
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There is no evidence to say that the surface world is dead
Nor that the complex has no access to outside resources to an extent
stone vine
and for all we know santonian could have surface connections
who just randomly makes a casual hoodie in a research/ mining operation
seems like it makes clothes
for other purposes
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After a collapse this bad it makes the most sense that they have some form of high power surface connections.
stone vine
i think all 4 prisoners are connected to santonian, but im just saying a hoodie isnt much evidence
at this point only bishop can be linked to santonian
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Could also be some other corp that was involved
Logs so far indicate that one megacorp sort of pulls the strings on a global scale, Santonian was a mining corp and we know there were others involved for say things like concrete supply or other forms of logistics and infrastructure
stone vine
well dreyfus owns everything
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Yes, that would be the megacorp
stone vine
yes
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Allegedly also able to influence governments
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most likely is the government
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So wouldn't be farfetched to think they have leverage on the surface during the events of the game, and try and keep the people ignorant on what happened in the complexes
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Pretty much
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Only thing is we don't exactly know when the prisoners do what they do, if it's a few years later or right after the initial outbreaks
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Dang
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Considering the state of the facility it can't be too far in the future after the outbreaks
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I don't think it can be that late, it would have way more structural decay
Electrical systems would have long failed
And generators sure as hell wouldn't boot up
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There is a hole through everything.
stone vine
well idk check the video
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I would expect at most 60 years
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The hole is one thing, but if the events of the game take place a century after the outbreak you'd have more blatant structural decay
The labs would not be as spotless as they are, with functional screens and monitors
And I imagine there aren't any maintenance bots running around to keep them going
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Yes but even concrete decays
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Even power wise, electrical cables decay, especially if we consider a humid environment such as underground
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Well you see that there are reactors in complexes
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We do, but again, I don't think they would live that long to work, especially without maintenance
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So there would be a different complex built for power or a very large power grid.
That hasnt fallen
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I find it hard to believe that whoever owns these complexes would wait a century to do things
And I highly doubt they've been feeding prisoners to it for that long either
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Well there is the problem with the infectious fog
stone vine
well we dont know warden "owns the complexs"
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It would make sense to wait for a while while the fog goes away
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Pretty much, a century is a bit lofty
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Im not saying a century at all. That is way to long to wait
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Well in that case yes, I can agree it could be a couple years or so after outbreak, but as the facility is still remarkably intact for the most part, as well as functional, it can't be too far in the future either
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60 maybe 50 years is the farthest I would put the time but even that could be a stretch.
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That's a lot
You'd see way more structural decay in the complex, and most of the electronics would be out of commission
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Do we even know what kind of materials they are using?
stone vine
well it looks like concrete and steel
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No mention of god knows what plot armour material so far
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And our hammers can break down doors
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There a metal sheet really
stone vine
well thats because doors are broken easily
unless they are well made with very thick metal
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And it's set up as some sort of garage door panel thing
stone vine
yeah garage doors arent the most secure things
hm well i have changed down i do think this could maybe be in like 2080 or something
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Does anyone have a picture of how thick a broken door looks like?
stone vine
we only know up to 2050 when it was still in production
so all in all, we could be in 2150
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But still between outbreak and prisoner sky dive it can't be too big of a gap overall
stone vine
just depends on when this outbreak started
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And the collapse could have happened in 2149
stone vine
hm maybe like 20 years or something
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Maybe 2120
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The thing about the idea it could have collapsed later: we would find autogen logs of later dates
stone vine
true you have a point
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Or at least, some lore of the future years after completion
stone vine
well we arent done with lore yet
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Maybe it wasnt completed
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We aren't no, but with the amount of it pointing at the date of 2050 I don't think it will just jump to decades ahead
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For instance the log in B2 mentions the fog repellers being stacked up in room 508
stone vine
mhm
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The log is dated 2050
So for the fog repellers to work it can't be too crazily far in the future
stone vine
have we been to zone 508?
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I have yes
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That's where you get a hefty amount of fog repellers
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As well as some extra resources
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Still feels like a lot, but yeah, once we get more info perhaps it will be easier to pinpoint
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No more than 40
stone vine
yeah also for some reason i have the nagging feeling that the mb sizes on the logs mean something
like idk why lmfao
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Size of importance?
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That may just be the file size ye
stone vine
yeah but for some reason i feel like somehow it could be used for something
idk guess well see
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I mean it could be a sign if say a short message has 1GB of file size
Likely has some more stuff
stone vine
idk the numbers seem so specific
but that might just be me going off of a tiny amount of info
as i tend to do
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EBDT
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yeah the file size 8768788 seems so weird
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Thats big
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Oh. Takes more space for an audio than it does typing
stone vine
but not 8 million
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How long does the audio take?
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There must be more audio in it
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Oh there probably was
stone vine
unless its kb but then 4260 kb makes no sense for the size of the autogen log
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Doesn't the audio fizzle out at the end?
stone vine
yes and continues in c1
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Could just be the rest is corrupted
stone vine
let me get the c1 file size
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If it continues in C1 then wouldnt they be the same file?
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That's the idea
stone vine
only 720
732
its defintely not just something small
that number means something
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Wow, yeah there definitely may be more to that first file
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Looks like the second file was cut down and edited
stone vine
i think differently
stone vine
either its a code or sequence of some sort
or theres more to it
think about it, a sneaky facility needs ways to hide passwords
also a similar thing i notice in the autogen status log
stone vine
take a look
3868 pid
3868 vid
3868 xid
these are all forms of id correct, but why the same numbers?
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Whats the fourth id letter
stone vine
no idea
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IPV11, man we needed more and more addresses didn't we
stone vine
its just *
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we have p, v, and x.
stone vine
but guess what else is *
passwords
its farfetched but hear me out
this could be a passcode
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The fourth guy is hiding stuff
stone vine
honestly its very unlikely but it seems strange to me
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Could the last one be sid?
stone vine
and xid is specifications
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Security id?
stone vine
meaning things like symptoms
hair color
it allows people to find an unknown Species via attributes
cough test subjects cough
hsu
cough
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So the guy is a scientist
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Considering Dreyfus seems to be into that stuff
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Thats what you are saying
stone vine
im saying we may have access to more id
and that 3868 is a code of sorts
to access the data system
and guess whats next up
datacenter
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Oh lucky us
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If you can test it that is.
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Datacenter is likely to be a information rich playground of sorts indeed
In a way Lab already had some tidbits of info on the various research terminals, so it will be interesting to see what monitors show in datacenter
stone vine
yep and if there are any passcodes i think ive got them
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Bish. Remember the audio log name and try to access that as well as the 4 digit passwords
stone vine
i really hope im on to something
because it would be so exciting if i was
ive had this theory since rundown 2
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You are definitely on to something
stone vine
and i also have another crazy theory if you would like to hear it
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This is the place for it so go ahead
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Some way there is a scientist who recorded their tests and put passcodes on them so the complex couldnt access them
stone vine
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Oh god
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The face
stone vine
black eyes, similar appearance, similar abbilities
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That face scares me
stone vine
now from my perspective the hybrids seem like a mix of charger and shooter
not of striker
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They look like chargers
stone vine
and the image above the hybrid is another form of charger
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Yes, they are to the shooters what chargers are to strikers
stone vine
and as we all know the first one is mother
now lets look at the similarities between charger and mother
same appearance, crazy deformation, and they breath exactly the same
seems like they could be linked, but this is just the start
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Are you suggesting that the chargers are the older spawns of the Mother?
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The breathing thing may just be placeholder but on the offset it isn't...
stone vine
yes ill explain my resoning
alright so alpha C1 this rundown
We know that this is another version of Alpha C1 except somehow its changed, as we can see from the prisoner translation
in an rot47 cipher we also notice that by decoding it we get Geographical data mismatch
strangely enough we also get an earthquake log of a 9.8 magnitude earthquake in an area where there was no seismic activity
heres where it gets weird
going into C1 we open the charger room where we hear a queen mother scream and see baby nests in the charger rooms
how on earth did the mother get to Alpha C1?
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Right that is a thing
stone vine
now heres more
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From what I saw in the logs you showed that something was overheating.
stone vine
hold on ive still got a lot more lmfao
now more strange coincidence i notced
in b2 we get our first introduction of the mother
and in D1 there is a normal mother and a queen
now whats in between b2 and d1, c1
we also know that mothers go for specific items as in d1 when the baby is inserted a mother appears in order to "take" it
so from what we've seen so far I've come to the conclusion that in order to reach the strange biomass located near the chargers, the queen mother could have somehow moved the location of alpha c1 itself in order to create some sort of creature
i speculate that its chargers
in place of getting a mother trading card, we got this weird charger that was covered in no black substance
now here comes an even weirder part
when we do place the baby in the neural link in d1 a mother appears as i stated before
we also know there were tons of babies in E1 seeing as the hsu unit holders were all gone
now coincidently in b2 we also have a mother placed outside the depressurization unit
now why would it be there next to the stop it could gain easy access to children?
well exactly that
id assume it doesnt create babies, but instead takes them and transforms them
it would explain why d1 is called bianhua which means transform in chinese
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Then how are babies made?
stone vine
well the facility had them beforehand
child testing is definitely a thing they were doing
and by the looks of it they were aiming it at the mothers
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This is fucked up, but when put that way it could make sense
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So before the outbreak there were tests and they created the first creatures, the mother and the baby.
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This was not a mining complex
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Right, so more to indicate man made experiments
stone vine
that sounds exactly like they were making it on purpose
yeah, and the mother outsmarted them
is what im getting at
its forming its own army
consisting of chargers and the babies it stole which it transforms
via these strange nests
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so mothers are the reason chargers exist
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And what you are also saying that the queen mother somehow has the ability to move entire sections of the complex and placing them somewhere else.
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I'm not too sure on that one
stone vine
yes thats exactly what im saying
well its the only explainable cause for a moving level?
like this is the same Alpha C1
but its changed
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Are the sector levels the same actually?
stone vine
almost exactly
stone vine
same zones
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That would fall more into it
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And new clutter like shelves and stuff
But still, what could possibly do that in a way that would make sense?
As in, are the creatures reshuffling the furniture so to say?
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Or more people adventuring in?
stone vine
im not so sure about that
just about alpha C1
and mother quarrelation
basically mother makes the chargers and in order to do so needs that biomass and had no way of accessing it
so it found a way
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We do know they do send other expeditions down into the sectors.
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Yes but they wouldn't do Feng Shui
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Could that correlate to the biomass?
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I don't think you have a team of shelf stackers just doing new decor
Biomass may be a thing that spreads by itself in the complex
stone vine
well also, the prisoners understand these arent just similar rooms
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The lab logs mention it being found deep
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No like a team that clears it out and cleans it up for use.
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But that's the thing
Could it be that the two facilities share a similar blueprint
So this could be Alpha C1 of facility 2
While we did facility 1 the first time
Same blueprint, different decor
stone vine
Hm thats possible aswell, but then the prisoners wouldnt say that
they would say its similar
not that it had entirely changed
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That is if the prisoners know they are moving between facilities
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That would mean the damage that the outbreak had was way worse than what we currently know.
stone vine
true, they could be moving between garganta and the yucatan one
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As they seem to be in HSU units when not sent in, it could be easy for them to not realise they got sent around topside
stone vine
but, then again, that doesn't explain the geographical data mismatch
yeah i do agree more with warden
but im down for all theories
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How many complexes are confirmed to be built?
stone vine
2
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Who knows if there is some long range rail line connecting them, and they refer to it all as one
At least 2 so far
stone vine
garganta is a complex
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And chicuxclub is the other
stone vine
yes
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The latter being the yucatan impact one
stone vine
also my other concern is, then why cant warden pin point the location
lmao
true
he does fail alarms a lot
and causes us trouble
stone vine
lmao
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He's doing his best I'm sure
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And if we travelled to the second complex that has the same problem as the first ome then how damaged is the world outside?
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Likely not at all
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That's why I was trying to rationalise with the double complex thing
stone vine
and i will not change it unless proved wrong
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The mentioning of blueprints is in a log
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So maybe it is a matter of twin facilities with small differences based on need
But yeah
stone vine
garganta blueprints were in a log
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Conjecture until we get proof
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But the exact same problem in both places?
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They may not be that far apart
One could be impact crater, other could be not far off inland
The crater itself is rather large, so it could have overlap in what is found deep
stone vine
yeah guess well have to find out as we move along
but im excited for the mother lote
lore
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If I was the one building this I would spread the complexes as far away as possible.
stone vine
yes
fair bridge
Not to mention, we don't know if underground connections exist, like a monorail or what have you
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And make it so that the failed one can’t impact the new one
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But yeah, it gets a bit harder to prove the twin complex if they are far apart
The odds the outbreak happening in both places would be a bit lofty
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Which proves my point of the outbreak being really bad
stone vine
also im beginning to think we may have been in garganta longer than we thought
the pump leak happened in garganta
they only covered it up as chixculub
its so confusing at this point at which we might be in
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The centre of the crater is technically in the ocean
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Not sure if the facility is, with the amount of rain it could be an offshore rig of sorts
But it is equatorial
So rain is half the year's season cycle
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It could just be near it like a supply station
We could just be going down the complexes supply line for all we know
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Ventilation vent or ex elevator corridor
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It’s still apart of the complex technically
stone vine
this is what it looks like
yes
tbh at this point im thinking we might have always been in garganta
it seems likely
yeah im kinda 50/50
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Chixculub is the name of the asteroid so
stone vine
theres good ideas for both
fair bridge
Could be a reference to that more so
In that case Garganta could easily be within the radius
It's a hard spelling
Can't say I used that word often
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There is another in D1 yes
stone vine
meaning thats why there are so many in D1
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Excess stock
stone vine
so they knew about the fog fs
as im pretty sure they were expirementing with it
as all of the lab containers are filled with it
which would explain the pump leak
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So are we accepting the theory that we are in the complex’s supply section that touches the surface?
stone vine
and we can see the nyxos containers all have toxic warning signs
and the pipes into the lab containers are nyxos pipes
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Well the use of the fog repellers where for mining dust
At least in B2 that was the case
stone vine
not on D1
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So it's more of an industrial use tool
Well no
But they merely say they had excess stock
So it was more so storage purpose
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Complex storage?
stone vine
mmhm
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That and a gameplay reason to have them available
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That’s what we are currently saying we are in
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Just so it lessen the confusion
stone vine
next rundown is going to be lore heavy i assume
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As far as we know the outbreak has happened in 1 Complex, and that is the complex we are in. We are near the surface because that is where the least problems are as stated in a video about the difficulty going deeper down.
stone vine
theyve already shown cipher is part of the plan
i want a level where the elevator breaks
and we drop down the abyss
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So speaking of major problems.... we may not have touched the main complex yet so we have no jdea what the most major threat really is.
It also shows us meters down when decided which mission is
stone vine
i wonder if next rundown we see the babies hatch
into their actual forms
id assume it would be the charger
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I dont want to know that
stone vine
or something even cooler
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If the elevator breaks the prisoners would die by crashing down at the bottom
stone vine
no no there could be an emergency system
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We dont see the bottom
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How deep is the complex and is the bottom where the real boss is?
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I thought it was in meters
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How deep is the crater?
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I hope not
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Yeah was about to say
stone vine
my math is terrible lmfao
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Still is deep
stone vine
yes
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And I knew what you meant
stone vine
we could go as far as 15 -20
fair bridge
Realistically you probably have a chunk of the complex closer to the surface
But you could have a dig site waaaay deeper down, and they would just crane back up samples
stone vine
issue is we have a lot of fog to clear to go down farther
so expect some great fog levels in that case
fair bridge
Hey they mentioned infection gear maybe for next rundown
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So anything to make it less obnoxious is fine in my book
stone vine
i agree
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There is something worse than the queen mother down there I can feel it.
stone vine
also we do have some ventilation gear
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Get ready for biomass the size of a room
stone vine
thats why we dont stay 100 percent infected
stone vine
you can also here the breathing of what sounds like a ventilation mask of sorts
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Ill set up a turret
stone vine
when ur infected
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Yeah all of the prisoners have a gas mask
stone vine
yeah
fair bridge
But filters may not be the right ones
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Old ones
fair bridge
Not necessarily, depending on the airborne gas some filters just don't work
So yeah
A dust mask likely can't stop deadly fog
At least not very well
stone vine
dust masks wouldnt stop extremely dense and infectious fog
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Especially if the fog happened before the filters where researched for it
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It would make sense that they dont know how to deal with the fog if these events happened closer to the outbreak.
stone vine
so i hope we get upgrades
well no one ever prepares for the worst
they didnt think it would escape
if they did they would have secured the labs a lot better
stone vine
well in any logs they dont give concern about the testing
and they use syringes with infectious properties on miners with no caution
its obvious they didnt think it could go wrong well atleast this wrong
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Does it say that these creatures were spotted during those testing logs?
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Then these logs happened before the sleepers were even conceived
And the problems happened in the long run
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Well it could be that sleepers were found and tubed up for study, but I think they refer to them as "biomass"
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They would be darker in color and we do see tubes with the sleepers in them in this rundown
So could the first people injected have gone missing and refound as a sleeper?
Wouldn’t there be logs of people disappearing in the mines?
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Could be, may also be why they then pursued human experimentation if that's the thing
Well, megacorp may not care for menial worker
One goes missing, blame sickness or a cave-in
Besides
It was indicated in a log that many of the workers signed NDAs and whatnot
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So while maybe they knew, they also were under contractual obligation to stay quiet
If they speak well, hey, cave-in happened
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Might be
stone vine
seeing as they were quite nosy
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Some form of word would get out with that many contractors
stone vine
yep
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So im on the wiki and looking at the playable character descriptions. Could one of them be an old miner that signed the contract but spoke out?
Maybe Woods?
stone vine
maybe who knows
fair bridge
We don't have anything really to go on
stone vine
i hope the santonian website updates
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Could be a forklift operator, an inventory manager
A believer of truth radio that got conveniently thrown into the complex to avoid him riling up crowds
stone vine
well Dauda is linked to the sleepers in a way i assume
maybe he was tested on or had a syringe used on him
idk but from the trailer he seems like he has a link to them
stone vine
yeah the guy in the audio sounds way different
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That would make dauda one of the miners
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R4 should give us some answers.
stone vine
i agree
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My brain is hurting right now
stone vine
i love the lore sm
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So confusing
stone vine
i used to spend my entire day on this lore channel
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And this lore is being contradictory.
stone vine
yes its story lore haha
tends to get all scrambled
but the ends will tie up eventually
opaque forum
Hopefully in a believable way
stone vine
yeah i dont want some weird random stuff to happen, id still like a semi logical story
fair bridge
They have the story down already from what I understand, so it's not being winged if anything
It's just being fed to us by breadcrumbs
stone vine
well they have probably taken some ideas from the lore chat
im pretty sure the devs read some of this
fair bridge
Yes but I don't think they will diverge too much if at all from the story they have written out
opaque forum
So my guess is Dauda is a MIA miner that was found and turned out to be “immune” to what ever happened to the other miners so they grabbed him and tested on him until the outbreak only to be released as a prisoner under the warden.
fair bridge
What can change is how they tell it to us, I can see the lore channel perhaps inspiring how that can work
stone vine
yeah
we had a discussion about hydrogen reactors and they pulled up with the generators r2 so
it seems like either coincidence or they take some stuff from here
opaque forum
I hope the make Dauda “immune” from what ever injection the put into the miners
stone vine
because we had this huge discussion about hydrogen powered generators and all that lmao
rundown 1
i mean either immune or just part sleeper
fair bridge
Right, and the power cells seem to be somewhat based on that tech
stone vine
either i would like
fair bridge
Other than looking like GPUs
opaque forum
It would be immune now. Some change to the brain must have happened first.
Making the connection part reasonable
stone vine
the complex is just best buy and im going to get my 2660
opaque forum
The complex is just an Ikea
stone vine
costco
opaque forum
Blockbuster gone rogue
opaque forum
I hope we can get hints onto what The Warden is
stone vine
well datacenter should also have lore about that i think
opaque forum
The Warden seems to know a lot more about everything than we think.
stone vine
and if warden was per say apart of the santonian database or something then we would find out about them
opaque forum
I dont think it is in there
The warden seems to be a seperate entity than the santonian
opaque forum
But has a very good relationship with them
opaque forum
There may be a secret code lying somewhere leading to logs about the warden
Wait...
I started thinking
And it hurts
But the audio file
How many digits do terminals get identified with.
stone vine
3
opaque forum
The file usage is 732 could be the terminal used for the code.
opaque forum
And the ID could be the code to access it
stone vine
or the file size of the first log
opaque forum
That is a long code but that makes sense too
opaque forum
So in R4 there could be the terminal 732
Where we can get information about the outbreak
And how it happened
stone vine
yes that could be a possibility
ill make a document of all possible codes
and terminal numbers
then next rundown ill go in and try and find a spot to use it
opaque forum
And key numbers
The keys have 3 digit identifications as well
732 could be a key identification
opaque forum
I hope the devs are listening
opaque forum
It was brought up twice they are bound to notice
stone vine
guess well find out if they wanted to implement it
opaque forum
I want to know though what overheated
And what could overheat that is above 102.198*F
That kind of seems important
Leading to a systems error in the file
opaque forum
Im not wondering what caused it. Im wondering what it was
A containment unit? A reactor?
And there were 4 of them
Labeled A, -, F, and G
What im guessing on is it was a cooling containment system which held the sleepers waiting to be tested. And being that there were enough rooms to label them A-G could each room be a different type? Just one creature?
stone vine
well im assuming it was the main data room
opaque forum
What could have been in those four and could that have been a distraction entirely?
stone vine
and the nodes connected could be terminals
opaque forum
Well these things were cooled to room temperature
Or as to my guess
Because they tend to get very hot or needed to stay that way for reasons unknown
But if my guess is right about the logs being before the outbreak could that log be one of the few that were made just before the outbreak?
As to say what is happening to the complex that lead to the collapse?
And from your theory about the queen mother outsmarting the facility could that be one of the ways it did it?
Im stopping. Lore is hurting what ever brain I have left.
vagrant fiber
Could these entities rather being corrupted by aliens what about its similar to the mist and there is a dimensional rift which has caused another realm to bleed into our own.
This could explain the Shadows and how twisted the human bodies have become.
mental plover
The devs specifically said in the behind the scenes that it wasn't aliens or zombies, I personally think it's some sort of viral infection or mutation or "alien" bacteria akin to siege's "zombies" from the outbreak event
I'm not totally sure though, I could see a dimensional rift possibly but it's more believable in my eyes that it's an infection
In rundown 2 we did get confirmation that Garganta, the complex, is located in Chicxulub Mexico, the crater that supposedly resulted from the meteor that killed the dinosaurs
vagrant fiber
Right infection but the shadows
Unless that liquid aforementioned is cloaking properties.
mental plover
That's true, that's gonna require more digging
Literally most likely
It could be some sort of evolutionary camouflage
Like a chameleon
Everything else appears to be ground in real life, nothing seems magical or Eldritch, so the shadows are very unique in that case
On another note, I know it hasn't been introduced yet, but this
Wondering if this could be connected to the source of the infection, it's the only non-humanoid enemy in the game aside from maybe the mother
But even the mother has humanoid features
coral quest
There's a gorilla skull and some other stuff that links it to animal testing- you just need to find it. There's some other hints in C1 that shows that the chargers may be crossbred chimpanzees
opaque forum
@mental plover I believe that is from the giant slasher
mental plover
Giant slasher?
mental plover
Trying to find that voice clip but the only thing I can find is a 30 minute video, time to sit back and listen to some stellar voice acting
Oh there's something, he says "snatchers, I smell them" and "it has me! Help!"
Jesus this is incredible to listen to
stone vine
... that isnt a gorilla head in c1
its just a normal human head
this is a gorilla skull
look nothing akuje
alike
there is no evidence that they are crossbred chimpanzees
none at all
icy totem
I think the sleepers are shrimps
graceful frost
they look pretty alike
coral quest
you didn't find the simian virus tubes? I think your argument just doesn't hold water man, notice the pronounced jawline
graceful frost
grind that just isn't a gorilla head in c1
its a normal human head
this is a gorilla skull
look nothing akuje
alike
there is no evidence that they are crossbred chimpanzees
none at all
coral quest
I'd consider it but the evidence is everywhere, take for instance this NASA space monkey suit
opaque forum
It is stated that there were human testing. No chimps
They were babies and humans
There was no such thing ever stated that there were chimps
opaque forum
How big does that suit look
And chimps are small
That just looks like a normal space suit
Also you were on the No chimps side a few minutes ago!
icy totem
The space suit changed his mind
opaque forum
The space suit could just be a collapsed human suit
Also in the known logs there were nothing about chimps being tested
graceful frost
they evolved in the complex!
icy totem
200 iq
graceful frost
can you deny this?
opaque forum
That is clearly faked
opaque forum
Im tired
opaque forum
I have been trying to figure out shit for the entire day
acoustic quest
this place usually never have fights so cooldown wouldnt be worth having
opaque forum
If chimps are true then all of the hard work 4 of us put in would be thrown to shit
And in no way is there anything that makes sense in your chimp theory
acoustic quest
it is okey to put theories
they exist to be debunked or confirmed
we dont know until further knowledge
opaque forum
Chimps: debunked
Otherwise what would be the chimps in our sleeper enemies?
If you say the babies
acoustic quest
is something we might not know
or for future
so thats why theyre theories
but still the complex dont have babies too
opaque forum
Sont. Tested on babies
opaque forum
That is fakes
acoustic quest
please fixhost
opaque forum
You are not helping right now with fake pictures
acoustic quest
put images that are on gtfo not some edited things
graceful frost
that is not edited
opaque forum
Please come back when you can connect the space suit to the chimps
acoustic quest
and yeah
complex dont use babyes as far as i know
theyre adults like any usual scientific
just packed
opaque forum
No they used babies
opaque forum
4 of us talked about it the entire day earlier
acoustic quest
i havent found anything about babies
apart from that thing we carry but its just the name
coral quest
woa chat is popping about the gorilla skull
check out this precursor to the neonate pod
opaque forum
On how it’s connection to the Mother made it so that the Mother outsmarts the complex in order to take the babies and make them something better.
Now show the picture of the pod @coral quest
acoustic quest
but still what we put in the "babies" are data of scientifics
we dont know if they gestate like normal or just put in a cryobody
is good
a theory
opaque forum
In R4 we should get the... no
acoustic quest
okey
i need you to stop the edited images of the chimp
opaque forum
Just no
icy totem
we're getting close
graceful frost
you asked me to make the connection
icy totem
they can tell
graceful frost
we're getting close!
acoustic quest
and keep this civil
acoustic quest
ngl i miss the old lore
when i used to follow it jsjsjsjs
opaque forum
In R4 one of them is going to do tests and searches with all kinds of codes to solve hopefully the connections of the 4 characters to the Complex and the collapse/outbreak.
And what the Mother is trying to do with the babies
acoustic quest
oh
the guy who is part of the website of the complex
heady mortar
Pls no chimp posting
acoustic quest
im bad with names sorry
heady mortar
this is a very serious channel
opaque forum
Thank you Sam
Heaven be apon you
@acoustic quest if you want to know what us 4 have done today just scroll up an entire day
acoustic quest
but yeah i dont think we know things about the 4 guys totally of why theyre in the complex
theyre a bunch of good theories
oh i cant atm
would love
but my internet provider decided to just have problems
and im on data
opaque forum
That is what We are going to try to find out in R4
R4 currently is the key to solving a lot of our theories
acoustic quest
well but still you have st least all the connections people used to had about the 4 guys ?
or maybe r4 is just gonna be a bit more of the radio theory thing
who knows
acoustic quest
onyl the devs
well yeah serious channels in the way of
the topic isnt something so joked about with fake images and no bases
opaque forum
Well Bishop is confirmed apart of Santontian and Dauda has some form of menta link with the Sleepers
opaque forum
Yea.
acoustic quest
i should keep up with this channel
opaque forum
So a theory we made was the dauda was one of the tested miners that went missing but was found either earlier in the metamorphasis process of the infection or “immune” to it but still had his brain changed.
We dont know anything else other than miners were injected with a viruses that helped them work and they went missing from time to time, later on they found the sleepers and brought them back for testing.
Leading to more of the virus to be tested on
Eventually leading to an outbreak due to some procedure failing
With the Mother on the other hand already existed at this point
Unknown reason for that
But they found out while injected babies with the infection the Mother would try to get to them and take them
acoustic quest
mmh interesting
wait
what was mother
the thing that compact the babies ?
i really need to put names on things
opaque forum
Yes
acoustic quest
nice
opaque forum
One person theorized that the mother was taking them and morphing them into what we know as Chargers
Which makes sense why there are chargers in C1
And the queen mother being there too
What was also included in the theory was that the queen mother can somehow physically move an entire chunk of the complex and move it to where ever it wants
Which explains how the mother got into C1
acoustic quest
well that would be really hard
i also dont know exactlt what is queen mother and mother apart from the babies functionality
opaque forum
And is hopefully confirmed by a detection of a 9.8 earthquake
Well the mother “spawns” in 15 babies right.
acoustic quest
well
opaque forum
Those babies are not from the mother itself
acoustic quest
if it also moves parts of the complex to where it wanrs
the earthquake would be like
a usual thing
opaque forum
It only wanted to get closer to the babies
The mother only wants to get to the babies
acoustic quest
but when she attack shes the only one who is really escaping
opaque forum
So that she can get more babies in the future
acoustic quest
instead of having an attack
opaque forum
Sacrificing a few for the many
acoustic quest
that would save the
want the babies
cuz she can generate all babies in a fight a lot
opaque forum
That is her known move
acoustic quest
yeah
if she needs babys then why she can generate unlimited supply of babies in fights
opaque forum
That is the only thing that we know about the mother. She is connected to the babies
Thats it
It doesnt say it can generate them anywhere else but in the wiki
As a move
Not apart of the lore stance
opaque forum
Which js why we need R4
acoustic quest
yeah still dont get hopes high always
everything can happen
opaque forum
R4 has the servos, it has the data we need
Even if it is not as much data as we hope we still need it
opaque forum
R4’s name is what sets our hopes up
acoustic quest
and yes but never hope too high
i thought of this rundown to get another kind of information
but now we have about a radio
still the best of luck when r4 is out ill try to be here reading everything possible
opaque forum
R4 is bound to give us good information. Maybe not enough but any is good when it comes to lore.
You mean mccallister?
acoustic quest
mcallisten?? sorry im really bad knowing names of things is something bad with me