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#gtfo-lore
late basalt
stone vine
daudas just so hot the sleepers wont eat him
the prisoners bald heads are just so hot
maybe they meant a different kind of sleep huh
;))))
i had that theory in R1 and got made fun of lmao
haha 😭
lmaooo
scan me harder daddy
late basalt
hmm
stone vine
yes
exactly
see
they would just use another clone
it wouldnt make sense to keep using the dumb same ol prisoners
also, the prisoners are in HSU, and we see tonnsof missing HSU throughout the complez
complex
its possible warden retrieved a ton of HSU from the complex to use as prisoners
yep same here
100% agreed
thats why i think its memory transfer, these prisoners are probs wardens best performing group so he transfers all the memories to them
late basalt
prob
stone vine
theres something very special about these four people though
bishop knows a loooot of info
and dauda seems to have some sort of connection with the complex's sleepers
maybe an old researcher or something
not sure about hackett and woods yet
we need more info about the people we play as
lilac island
on the clone thing, i was sort of figuring that the bodies were being cloned, but the memories are always retained, with cortex interface being essentially the consciousness of each body
with bishop, the inspect element information for the santonian website lists bishop as the author
with the "memories always retained thing" i again think this because of the way that dauda describes having the reoccurring dreams described alongside footage of expeditions sort of implying that he's remembering the expeditions, whether they fail or not
dull geyser
if our prisoners are the only ones who complete objectives then why send anybody else?
also there are bodies scattered around levels could those be our former bodies or other prisoners?
dense saffron
@lilac island
things to talk about, the idea of the warden having higher perms in the complex is interesting and kind of ties into an idea i have which is that the warden might be one of the companies involved with the complex, which i think kind of makes sense generally but it's unexplained in lore so i think that there is room for other ideas there```
The warden def doesn't have higher perms. Multiple times we've been sent to gain creds (R1A1, R1B1, R1B2, R1C2, R2C2). The warden has also tried to force inject permissions and failed (R1D1) and needed us to override security (R2B3). I think it's safe to say the warden doesn't have high control over the complex, if anyi would think that "canonically", the only ones that genuinely count are the four characters in one single instance of them surviving an expedition, along with every failed attempt's group of x number of prisoners
@dense saffron it's good that you bring that up, that actually kind of eliminates the idea that the warden is in some way connected to santonian
well, then it makes it somewhat interesting then
bishop can be assumed to have some connection to santonian through their website
maybe the prisoners have been chosen specifically because of the fact that they're all workers for santonian
it would kind of make sense that the employees or people involved with whatever the complex has in store would be used as essentially fodder to try to fix whatever the complex brought
remote stag
What happened with North in the GTFO trailer? All the 4 prisoners are there except for Hackett. Just a change or will he come back?
lilac island
it was a name change
remote stag
Makes sense.
broken mason
Different character or just different name?
stone vine
hacketts a better name than north anyways
remote wharf
BAN
lilac island
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dim schooner
On it.
fluid token
What just happened? :O
On a side note, I believe it's just that the 4 prisoners are the ones succeeding. Realistically, we only finish the rundown once. However, it gets confusing if we include the warden stats since why turn the reactor on again and again, unless of course it's faulty and after a set amount of time it shuts down again hence the need of lots of prisoners to go to A3. (Making the warden stats work if it was canon)
lilac island
i just figure that if it doesnt make it the whole way though the startup sequence, it just shuts down
regal pumice
@fluid token Think of it this way.
We as the players are the protagonists. The four main characters are cliche and stereotypical. Meaning they will always be shown successful, In order for the story to continue.
However the numbers will still grow in the shadows, which just becomes a “bonus” point to the detail.
The objectives in reality is not repeated. (Once successful)
Unless this whole thing is just a simulation
Think of it like chapters for a movie when comparing runs.
You simply re-read or rewatch it, however in reality. The path for the four characters is simply linear.
regal pumice
It’s the one part of the lore I would not really focus too much on just yet.
For instance. What I’m trying to figure out is, who runs this facility? Is it Dreyfus or Santonian. Or are they both in this together. Because Santonian is an investment company. So they may have only given the “bling bling” but may still have a foot in the ownership. Whereas Dreyfus may be running the whole thing, doing the labour.
From the i formation I am gathering, I’m getting the vibe that this whole place is made with real terrible intentions.
And on top of that. To me, the Warden seems to be a third party host. That joined the scenes later.
They may in fact be a “rebellious” like company who is trying to find the things that have been done in here.
Though it’s still a work in progress theory
regal pumice
On the other hand, there is a generator-like machine that is connected with pipes, leading to the glass containers with the plants in them. I could also assume that these plants have a role in either generating energy, oxygen for the HSU containers. Or creating the so called “Substance X” which could have been used to develop the protein that is inside the syringes. Which in return could have had harsh side effects on the human body. And in return caused the mutations.
In some, body growth. In some, body disfigurement. And in some maybe, dramatic birthing.
The syringe could have been made to aid the workers who were working in the mines with lack of air and what not.
This is a rough theory but. It does have a sectional possibility
And as they tried to sustain the outburst of the mutation, bu possibly using the HSU containers to slow the growth to maybe help them in the future.
However this would not explain why there are babies in HSU. Yet as stated. The babies could have been an accident created by the mutations.
Which may have been used to experiment on.
nova plover
<..> Realistically, we only finish the rundown once. However, it gets confusing if we include the warden stats since why turn the reactor on again and again <..>
Maybe we're playing simulated runs of the missions. Once the simulated survival rate is high enough, the prisoners are physically sent down
nova plover
oh, didn't read all the way down yet 😅
mossy iris
what lore am i supposed to be reading if everyone just uses it as a chat. idk what im reading at this point
faint minnow
I am seriously impressed with the amount of lore in a game that has no cutscenes or "traditional" story telling
stone vine
im confused who got banned lol
flat nexus
@stone vine you
late basalt
rip
stone vine
rip 😭
lilac island
i'm curious as to what warranted it but i know better than to bug mods about it
tall anchor
eh, there’s no point
tho
I am seriously impressed with the amount of lore in a game that has no cutscenes or "traditional" story telling
Holy shit same tho, it’s so cool that we’re literally peicing things together as if we are the characters
like, if I was down in the complex, I would be looking at all the logs I could get my hands on
lilac island
the amount of theorycrafting in the game is cool too
and with such little information, but enough to be able to come up with theories and oppose each other, it's cool that people CAN oppose each other with ideas rather than it just being super clear
remote stag
Are the rundowns continuous story?
As in, I saw something about E1 from a past rundown being labled as a mission to access a baby bank.
And now the whole rundown is baby related.
real pewter
and then
we gonna have r4
which is restore the server for some data
"datacenter"
tall anchor
I mean, they were protecting something
esp. with biomass in ceiling
or whatever the fuck it is
solar nova
Still seems like the sleepers are better established in regions where chargers are present.
fluid token
isn't it part the fun figuring out the story instead of having the story laid out for you to just read? xD We get clues here and there and draw our own conclusions.
tall anchor
for sure
solar nova
W/ the rundown system, a lot of it isn't there to be figured out
stone vine
I’m not sure what they are protecting, or even if they are protecting anything, but I know for a fact this is a hive mind that has outsmarted humans and catagorized the things that it has created into roles
We can see the established roles very easily
Chargers protect the biomass nests and are generally more armored up than regular sleepers
Sleepers( regular ones) are like a first defense that are used for swarming and taking down any common threats
remote stag
What are these mask? ;3;
remote stag
It's a steam wallpaper from GTFO..
remote stag
Might be the old masks cause I got this one too
That's clearly Bishop and.. Woods?
Woods has the vest, right?
remote stag
Still though, that's a different mask on the right. It's a lot shinier and smooth.
tall anchor
probably future cosmetics/equipment
stone vine
Yeah that’s what I think
remote stag
I think ;3;
remote stag
I don't know.. the left one doesn't have eye holes XD
stone vine
that’d be so awesome honestly
Having better armor for harder rundowns
plus from what I’m seeing of this new charger variant we are going to need a bit of armor
:0
remote stag
Right one has a resemblance to the SAS gas masks.. the British Army one.
But Woods is American so eh..
Bit of a stretch.
stone vine
Hm yeah maybe just a reference
remote stag
I'm leaning towards the artist was given references and they just went for it.
stone vine
Yeah whoever does the art for this game is amazing
remote stag
We can see 3 different masks in these images though which is neat.
stone vine
Each character has a unique mask maybe
remote stag
Wait no.. all those masks are unique.
stone vine
And we just gotta figure out who’s is who’s
remote stag
I'm guessing the gas mask looking one is for Hackett, and the skull one for Dauda
stone vine
What I notice tho is they all look like gas masks
Like they all have the ventilation pipes
remote stag
Yeah, they aren't gas masks..
If they have the pipes theyre more of an isolated breathing aparatus.
stone vine
Yeah a rebreather of sorts
remote stag
Similar to a scuba tank.. or some heavy duty gas mask
I don't know much about gas masks so I'm talking out my ass though.
remote stag
The right one, the SAS looking one looks like it has filters, but I'm sure it's just cosmetic.
remote stag
I don't think we've seen that gun Bishop is holding on the left..?
It has an ACOG so it made me think of the DMR, but there's no barrel extension thing.
Stock is off too..
remote stag
Oh you're probably right.
remote stag
I know one of the characters got a new mask..
remote stag
"In the Alpha, Bishop and Woods shared the exact same mask, but later Bishop received a new mask, making it easier to differentiate them from each other."
But that doesn't help us here.
I think they might just be new masks for the cosmetic update?
stone vine
Yeah yeah probs
remote stag
Or old designs they didn't want to do with, too metal and edgy.
remote stag
I'm interested about that gun Bishop has though
I think the game is dark, not edgy though.
stone vine
True true more dark than edgy, the whole rebellion thing is tho
remote stag
Both those guns.. I don't recognize either of them
stone vine
same
They look completely different
also dude I checked the official art as well and the masks are still different
remote stag
The one on the left has the scope from the sniper, and the right one has the slanted magazine seen in the rifle and carbine, but.. the stocks are off.
Well there's these masks..
stone vine
They both have a reddish green tint as well like the terminals
Look at the reflecting
Reflection
tall anchor
also, don’t forget we’ll get gun customization
stone vine
Wait for real
tall anchor
also known as gun frankensteining
stone vine
Yaaaaaay
tall anchor
yeah for real
stone vine
Yaaaaaaaaaaay
tall anchor
look up frankensteining in #gtfo-ama-answers
remote stag
Those masks though...
stone vine
Will it be free?
fervent iris
of course
stone vine
Ok cool then I’m fine with it
fervent iris
but they're probably gonna be some specific pay to equip cosmetics with no functionality but to look good
stone vine
Well bye bye money
Any in game purchases will be bought with no exception
This game is my one true love
❤️
stoic rock
@remote stag Maybe we will get new equipment when new rundown releases that require personal protection - masks etc
Each have different safeties depending on what the situation is
because the warden wants us to continue
fervent iris
lmao does it look like they need standard sustenence
storm patrol
Like they sleep to conserve energy (like a bear 🦍)
They need energy input since they expend it
Conservation of energy
Maybe they eat fish?
There is no kitchen
Where did the workers eat?? What if they need to microwave something? (before the monsters)
Where are the bathrooms?
storm patrol
Do they just pee into the hole
late basalt
Yes
storm patrol
Must start to stink after a while
late basalt
Well. Unless it goes a lot more than 1000Meters
storm patrol
But then you can’t drill any further
late basalt
Use it as free coolant for the drill
storm patrol
It would be stinky 😜
late basalt
Ahh. Who cares? The schleppers?
storm patrol
Why not just... have a bathroom
late basalt
Idk. Ask the warden
storm patrol
@lilac island
Where is the bathroom??
Really?
☹️
🚣♀️ but where is the kitchen
late basalt
Yes
storm patrol
But doesn’t it spill on the super mega dropcrane
storm patrol
Wat
late basalt
You don’t know what does are?
storm patrol
Yes I do
storm patrol
But you need more water than in your food
late basalt
Packaged bottles
storm patrol
How do they distribute water to employees
late basalt
With the food
late basalt
Just dig deeper
storm patrol
👁️ where does all the dirt they dug up go???
storm patrol
Incineration does not delete the matter
frail pollen
let's try to keep this a bit more serious please.
storm patrol
DOC
frail pollen
I get this are valid questions
storm patrol
Naw this is legit
late basalt
^
frail pollen
but this is a bit far out there
frail pollen
it's a game, not everything needs to make sense. Per the channel topic:
Serious discussion about the lore
storm patrol
Maybe few humans actually went down there. More machines?
storm patrol
Wat “it’s a game” excuse? The lore has to make sense ☹️
🐗 it’s a big part of the game
late basalt
I mean look, I get it, but It doesn’t mean I like it or it makes sense
stone vine
smh they obviously eat poptarts
how do you guys not know this basic info
theres toasters everywhere in the complex so that when the sleepers wake up they can make poptarts
look heres an ingame screenshot i took
storm patrol
aw darn forgot about those
austere depot
...delicious pop-tarts...
They ate so many...their faces split
GTFO is really about investigating the effects too many pop-tarts can have on human biology and physiology
the mutagens are in the jam
onyx osprey
Pog
stone vine
I stared in shock glancing at the terrifying mutant in front of me. It slowly waddled to a small, metal object and inserted a poptart into it. "What the fuck is that," Dauda stated, his mouth agape with shock. I sent a look over to Hackett who was charging his hammer, ready to kill the monstrosity of a human. "Grrrfgggghhghg," the sleeper gargled as it inserted the poptart into the metal object that we could now clearly see was a toaster. "No fucking way," Woods said, terrified of what the weird creature was about to do. The creature clicked down the small lever on the side of the toaster, beginning to cook the pop tart. We all freaked out and backed up about 20 meters, observing the creature from afar. The toaster popped out the warm pop tart with a "ding". Slowly, the creature took pop tart out of the toaster and inserted it into his large, open mouth. We all stared as it started convulsing violently, its body illuminating in the dimly lit storage room. "DON'T FUCKING MOVE," I said as we all backed up into a corner together. The creature finally came to a stop, letting its body hunch over, and falling into a deep sleep. Hackett walked over to the creature, charged his hammer and whacked it. "Warden better be paying for this one," he stated aggresively. Never would we have expected to see something so vulgar down in this complex, this would stick with us for quite some time.
grrrfgggghhghg
lilac island
How the hecc would you see Dauda's mouth agape while they're wearing masks
stone vine
shhhhh
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
hidden gust
@stone vine Permission to re-write your little story there but with grammar Nazi skills?
It was funny
I stared in shock at the terrifying mutant in front of me. It slowly waddled to a small, metal object and inserted a Pop-tart into it. "What the fuck is that thing?!" Dauda exclaimed, voice shuddering with fear and confusion. I shot a look over at Hackett who was raising his hammer to kill the monstrosity of a being. The Sleeper gargled as it inserted the Pop-tart into the metal object which we could now clearly see was a toaster. "No fucking way." Woods said, terrified of what the strange creature was about to do. The creature clicked down the small lever on the side of the toaster, beginning to heat the Pop-tart. Hackett, after observing this, lowered his hammer and began backing away, trembling. We all began truly freaking out and backed up about 20 meters, observing the creature from afar. The Pop-tart popped out of the toaster with a small 'ding', and slowly, the creature took the Pop-tart out of the toaster and inserted it into it's mouth, which was now agape. We all stared as it started convulsing violently, its body pulsing with light, illuminating in the dimly lit storage room. "Don't... fucking... move..." I said as we all slowly backed further into the corner together. The creature finally came to a stop, letting its body hunch over, and falling into a deep sleep. Hackett crouch-walked over to the creature, raised his hammer and obliterated what we supposed was it's head. "The Warden better be paying for this one. I've seen some horrific shit, but that... that was too much for any man to see." Hackett said, with a tinge of sadness and anger in his voice. Never would we have expected to see something so downright obscene and hellish in this complex, even though we knew it was bad down here already. This was a moment that would never leave our minds, haunt us to the end of our lives. That is, if we made it out alive.
Too bad I did it anyway because I was bored
I improved it a little bit and corrected grammar, now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go question life for 2 hours.
Edit: missed a detail
remote stag
GTFO fanfiction here we go
storm patrol
“It’s” and “its” confusion still.
stone vine
no cap i will write a fan fiction of gtfo
if people give me a theme ill go for it lol
storm patrol
If you’re not sure, try splitting it into “it is”. If that makes sense, use “it’s”
stone vine
i hate that word
storm patrol
¯_(ツ)_/¯
stone vine
@hidden gust loved that haha, feel free to edit anything of mine anytime ❤️
hidden gust
lol thanks
I'm writing my first would-be book and I've gotten better at writing thanks to it. That was fun to edit
broken mason
yeah that was pretty lit
shut mountain
As much as I love a nicely written crack fic, make sure to next time use the regular gtfo-channel for it thou ;) As this channel is meant for serious discussions about the lore
fleet brook
Dont know if this is said before or even relates to lore, but when you start each section the hole you go down into has those spikes at the edge of the hole (the pointy things) and also are a type of fence so you can't just walk off the edge into the abyss, they point upwards, and some early logs in A1 say the rooms got over 40 degrees celsius, which sounds like an explosion could've gone off. With the points facing up, does that mean an explosion happened at the very bottom of the facility pushing upwards or something and creating the large hole in the ground
broken mason
Strange that concrete/dirt/rock would make spikes like that tho
desert tide
I just wanna chime in and say that I wholeheartedly support the official meme theme of GTFO being poptarts and toasters 👍 👍 👍
regal pumice
God I hate this chat. 12% lore based the rest just chatting 
lilac island
the last few days have been good up until yesterday or so, shit deteriorated then
as for the spikes pointing up at the entrypoint of most levels, its unknown if thats the result of explosions or not
the explosions causing the holes are possible, though they seem too engineered towards the entrance to merely be caused by explosion
i've thought for a while that the holes are maintenance access tunnels leading down into air vents or otherwise, with some stuff being torn up by something at the actual points where the prisoners are dropped, but its not known what causes it
the server room malfunction with heat is logged in the auto_gen_status.log file, with time stamp 53 10 11 4:00:00 AM
if this were to be the explosion causing it, it brings into question the 9.8 richter earthquake happening in april of 2049, and the weird audio log thing in R3A3 being timestamped september 3rd, 2050
it's hard to piece together why the entances are the way they are with the current information, we just gotta wait for more
storm patrol
Well the spikes could be rebar in the concrete
Makes sense why they would survive an explosion that would destroy other materials
sacred depot
they look kinda thick for rebar tho
storm patrol
Anyways, it did seem like there was some sort of upward force that broke it
Do you have a better idea as to what they are?
sacred depot
nope
storm patrol
Great
dense saffron
9.8 earthquake seems to be unrelated to the explosion, considering there's emails from 2050
Presumably the explosion is was doomed the complex
Its possible the earthquake is what causes the complex to be built
lilac island
it's unknown for it
the syringes seem to have been made after the state of truth email
or
possibly anyways
since it's dated at september 25th, though the year is encrypted
or bugged
dense saffron
Corrupted by the emergency data transfer failing
lilac island
no
the only data transfered from the emergency data transfer was the auto_gen_status.log
because it says in that log that it's sending the emergency data to all nodes on the network
which it managed to send to 99.2%
which is why every single terminal we use has that log
dense saffron
The auto gen status states its primeing data for redistribution over the network, then notes that it completed with errors
I think it's safe to assume the corrupted and scattered logs we find were because of this data redistribution failing to complete correctly
lilac island
that's
not at all what that's talking about
it primes the temperature data to be sent out
as a blast emergency protocol
so that emergency crews can find the terminals and be able to know what happened
instead of just having a hole in the ground with no information as to what happened to the server rooms
there would be no reason for random emails, news broadcasts, etc. to be sent to every single terminal in the system
it wouldn't scatter random data to random terminals that just so happen to also be the terminals needed to find out what the syringes do on R3A1, or the reactor verification codes in R3A3, and whatever what not
what would be the reasoning behind that
it sends data pertinent to the accident to all available nodes on the network as an emergency system to get information on what happened out so that it's data can be read and more info on the accident can be gleamed
auto_gen_status.log is an auto-generated log file specifically about the status of the server rooms which is generated in the event of an emergency
fluid token
if auto_gen_status managed to send it to 99.2% of the terminals, then surely all those logs should also be seen on any other terminal, but it isn't, therefore it's not that..
it's just a status of what happened and sent to all terminals, you know, so you don't have to dig to find and guess the reason of what happened
just get it from the very first terminal you see
you won't be sending your confidential stuff to all terminals in the event of a problem, you simply send that there was a problem
a huge problem, a big boom boom
faint minnow
A big fucky wuckie
nimble ivy
So I'm just gonna say this, I have no idea why I'm a prisioner, I don't know whats going on, I don't know why they are making me do this. and I am scared as hell.
AND I LOVE EVERY FUCKING SECOND OF IT
But in all seriousness what do you think these creatures are, its obviously some type of modified humanoid, and they have to have come from people.
But why the groths, how did the teeth form?
What the hell were they doing down here?
Like @fleet brook said an explosion happened but what if it was more of an impact...
and thats just what happened from it
storm patrol
Secondu impacto
😆 any neon genesis fans?
Could be something extra-terrestrial
That would explain the strange biology and where they came from/why the facility was built
Ok but this facility is totally like NERV
It’s strange and funny how close the lore is between them (in some elements)
void walrus
The sleepers seem to be modified humanoid experiment gone wrong which were left alone after evacuation and mutated over time
As u can see from some missions that are set in a lab-like place there are containers with said sleepers in them
Everyone evacuated the area and prisoners are used to retrieve important left behind things
Thats my guess @nimble ivy
stuck karma
is there already some kind of timeline established of where i can read up some lore?
@void walrus
I support this theory, it is definitely the most convincing/logical.
lilac island
@nimble ivy i've said this before, but there's definitely some human part to the creatures we find, as there's many that are anthropomorphic in nature, but there's also some which are clearly not as anthropomorphic in nature, and it's hard to say what was a result of infection, infliction, creation, or otherwise, and what was a result of something being found there.
nimble ivy
I suppose half my interest in this game is figuring out how the hell those things become what they are, and is it even something our characters can even stop
lilac island
there's a lot of aspects that point towards something somewhat fungal in nature, like the plants in the labs which seem to have bark like plants but grow out in the same way some fungi do, or the heads and bodies of shooters, which are very similar in nature with their growths to the spitters. as for strikers, they seem to be something else, a worm seems to inhabit their abdomens, distending their bowels. in earlier versions of the game we could very easily say that they actually were worms, as the early versions of the worms when they hit you have annelid bodies.
they're different now, i think that design choice to change them was intentional, either to throw us off or just to give more mystery to it in general
the creatures in GTFO are definitely inspired by worms, at least to some extent
strikers used to have tendril attacks with the tendril looking earthworm-ish
the scout's feelers seem to be inspired by that of the ribbon worm
which shoots out this weird snaking, forking length of feeler-ish-something when they feel threatened
it's also what they use to feed
nimble ivy
@lilac island I noticed that they were experimenting on differnt types of plants and moss that are deeper into the pit, but it doesn't make it clear if that was before or after everything went to hell
old gulch
The level name of R3D1, bianhua, thats not English right?
I know that in Chinese 'BIANHUA' means changes, but I don't know if this relate to the game or something
void walrus
@lilac island where did u get a earthquake from? Is this like context lore that came out with the game?
Hmm
Then the huge earthquake forced the scientists to evacuate and due to its magnitude broke sleeper containment and they mutated from there
Is what i can think of
Cant say that its supported by solidified proof bc if only a few broke out how do they reproduce since there are so many ingame
Huh
Well that screws up my theory
I cant see how the earthquake has anything to do with the abandonment of the facility then
bright temple
one of the things earlier i read about the spikes being rebar, thats impossible a1 theres a pillar with broken rebar
celest pagoda
What if something caused the Earthquake, and that's what Santonian was trying to discover?
Something, as 1 or many living things.
they were diggin for somethin' evidently, and from what the labs show they sure as hell found somethin'
void walrus
from the looks of it no creature down there has been big enough to cause a eq on that scale
and no natural nest type area has been introduced yet
the first encounter with the birther is not a natural nest as it is situated in a man made place that was just taken over
dense saffron
All the lab screens reference how the materials we see around the lab (trees, weird meat sacks in tubs, stuff that looks like water wrinkled sleepers) were taken from an excavation operation called "Deep Reach"
wraith matrix
I feel like its pretty unlikely the earthquake was caused by something anomalous
void walrus
is gtfo situated on earth?
or is it something else cuz i was basing everything on earth
remote stag
Or will they? ;3
broken mason
is there actually a fault line under/near the crater?
lilac island
@lilac island Is your PFP a joke where when it says "Which" it's referring to which Warden there is? I.E, as in you and then the warden from GTFO?
Ahhhhh
But it can always be my suggestion 😉
well we don't know if the complex is in the chicxulub crater or if it's project garganta, and if it's not garganta then we don't know where garganta is
exact locations are difficult
remote stag
^
stone vine
^x2
cinder temple
Also the lab monitor says material composirion contains trace of iridium, which is a concrete evidence that complex is located in chicxulub crater.
Does anyone know where Garganta is? I think it is La Garganta del Diablo.
lilac island
well, i'm not so sure that the complex is entirely in the chicxulub crater. whether we're going to be seeing garganta later, or if there's two separate complexes
the reason i'm not 100% on chicxulub is the fact that they're a lot more secretive about garganta by comparison to chicxulub
and yeah
@lilac island >remember the trailer that literally had coordinates to chicxulub?
yeah, the same trailer where one of the character names are different, the models used for the sleeper attacks are different, the HUD is different, the playermodels are different, the weapon models are different, an enemy not in the game, multiple tools that aren't in the game or have since changed in their function or model, a different drop-in system to what's in early access builds, and that everyone says should not be trusted in full
yes, chicxulub is heavily implied to be the location of the complex in that trailer
and chicxulub is still 100% an involved part of the story
everyone has shot down my shit for taking ideas from that fucking trailer are you god damn kidding me
late basalt
what?
idle bramble
you good bro? some one hurt you?
late basalt
@lilac island did you bully this poor man?
lilac island
i've put forward multiple ideas leaning on info provided by that trailer, but based on the fact that there's so much stuff that's changed, everyone has said that it shouldn't be trusted and that trailer should not be trusted for any information
but i guess that only applies to the ideas i put forward now lol
idle bramble
id say most ideas are good but kinda hard to confirm 🙂
late basalt
^
stone vine
id say it does mostly take place in chixculub, but youre right there are possibilities of other places being involved in our story
the complex is the main story plot, but that doesnt just exclude the factor that other complexs or factories could have been made in involvment with the same project
so youre idea is fine fencing
at this point this is all speculation, instead of just shutting down ideas we should try and see how they would play into the storyline
Garganta could take place in the crater, or somewhere else, at this point we only know of the complex's location
plus we do know places like new mexico and texas have been brought up in logs that are pretty plot heavy so
🙂 yeah warden and fencing both your ideas are fine, but its all just speculation
late basalt
hmm... interesting
stone vine
i think fencing has had a few theories blocked out by people
yeah we understand that warden
hes trying to say that other buildings could have been made
not THE complex, but other facilities(or complexs)
i understand that the complex is in the chixculub crater lol
stone vine
also this probably isnt anything but how do the babies have so many teeth at such a young age lmaoo
tall anchor
how do the strikers have those teeth tho
they’re like forearm length
and it scares me
stone vine
idk man its terrifying tho o-o
like imagine this shit irl
wait i shouldnt say that its 2020 lol
vivid shuttle
what have you done
stone vine
also, I have a theory that the horns on both variants of the Chargers are actually plants
im putting together a verrrry big document full of every explainable ish topic for the lore, itll be done by maybe sunday or monday im not sure
ive got 2 things done so far haha
ancient cape
i know this is kinda out of topic and so on but can someone give me a, how should i say it, explanation what happened from rundown 1 to rundown3, like what was the lore, why did we had to for example in rundown 1 start up a generator and why they were exploring these caves in the first place
tall anchor
In rundown 1, we had to start a generator to be able to turn on the power for deeper levels.
stone vine
r1 was unlocking r2 r2 was baby r3 was delivering baby to neural link
tall anchor
and we’ve delivered baby
stone vine
yep
tall anchor
so r4 will be something spoopy probably
stone vine
pretty epic
tall anchor
in the data center
wraith matrix
R3 you plug ethernet into child to power the wardens minecraft server
urban sonnet
R4 you need to use baby to detect hybrids and the game turns into death stranding with hammers ?
dull orchid
urban sonnet
They already have that though with the walking dead game
trail vale
@peak plover we had to head off for a bit, i'll let u know when we are back
peak plover
kk
stone vine
Honestly that’d be so cool like at the end of the game having a final scene where we leave for good
manic shuttle
something tells me were gonna have a tragic ending
unless they make our characters struggle like crazy
manic remnant
feels bad not playing the last rundown so im so far out of the loop now
wraith matrix
You really didn't miss much
With r3, gtfo now has barely more lore than a single item description from dark souls
manic shuttle
this rundown has more lore compare to r2
manic remnant
ok so time to regrind
scenic oar
10:1 says The Warden is an Artificial Super Intelligence
nova ridge
Here’s something to consider, when you load it says the prisoners infection level is high so in the end they might just become sleepers if thats how the sleepers are created
old geyser
is there anyway to read the log files from terminals outside of the rundown? I really don't wanna solo a mission to read logs, :P
cloud swiftBOT
You can find the Official GTFO Wiki here: https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/GTFO_Wiki
old geyser
thanks!
devout geyser
^^ theyre on the individual rundown pages, a list of rundowns can be found at https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/Rundown#Previous_Rundowns
stone vine
lol theres just a rundown where we are the sleepers and our goal is to kill the prisoners
scenic oar
There is an error code at the end of the description of R3C1. It's encoded with a ROT47 Shift Cipher. When Decoded it reads: Unexpected geographical data mismatch, area deemed unstable.
solar nova
Interesting. Might either be a reference to the fact that it's a changed alpha level or it's a suggestion that the large biomass causes significant disturbances in the earth.
scenic oar
I feel like I've seen a few other ROT47 or similar ciphers throughout my gameplay. I just haven't gone back to hunt for them and doing it solo is a pain.
stone vine
hmm yeah that does seem familiar
scenic oar
I'm about 90% positive I've seen one on the "bugged" terminal in A1.
stone vine
yeah i saw something weird too i just remember where
dont*
i wonder wait hooold on
this might be a long stretch but in C1 when we open the charger door the mother screams, correct
and in D1 the biomass text is broken down
scenic oar
I have not cleared C1 or D1 yet
scenic oar
IDC
stone vine
oh alright
scenic oar
I had a feeling there were gonna be bigger chunguses ahead
stone vine
oh yeah a very big one at that
scenic oar
I saw the preview for what I believe is the chungus on D1
stone vine
yeah in D1 it says biomass incoming but the text is jumbled
and in C1 the mother screams
im probs not onto anything but i might go check rq
scenic oar
Well, I say Bio Mass Idk if that's what it actually is
stone vine
yeah is it the weird nest
scenic oar
its a large ball of flesh and it stretches through the ceiling in areas
stone vine
yepp
scenic oar
usually you hear dripping noises nearby
solar nova
Didn't notice it in this A1, so I'll need to look.
scenic oar
I think you can see it in the baby cooking room, maybe in one of the rooms prior to that too.
stone vine
lmao baby cooking
stone vine
hahahahaha
scenic oar
then you put it in the garbage compactor
stone vine
understandable
and then u leave it on a plate for the mom to eat it
thats weird tho, a biomass should have chargers nearby
scenic oar
I mean, its not like an interactive enemy or anything
its just like a static map element in the ceiling
solar nova
Not necessarily, the spitters are "biomass" as are the sacks left by the birthers.
scenic oar
So maybe that is signs that its growing upwards
stone vine
were talking about the nest tho
like the weird one u only find by chargers
yeah its spreading
scenic oar
You mentioned feeding the baby to mama
stone vine
oh yeah lol we put the baby in this weird neural link and a mom spawns
so baby is connected to mom in a way
scenic oar
and reinforces the wild theory I had
stone vine
spill the tea
late basalt
TEA
scenic oar
lemme take a dab rq
scenic oar
It's important to note, I've only been playing for about 2 weeks
But
When I first started playing I got the impression that the Warden was some kind of Artificial Super Intelligence
stone vine
yeah
scenic oar
Then we are given this baby to revive
k
then we go and reactivate a generator so that we can power a neural uplink
We need a DNA sample from somebody in a pod
Initially, I thought that the Warden was trying to create a Physical Shell to act as its "Avatar"
Now I'm starting to think that it's plan is actually to create a link between it and the Spoopy Dudes.
scenic oar
Maybe its both
stone vine
yeah think abt it like
if we can comm with the sleepers hive mind we can access so much info
and if the baby is connected to them
scenic oar
There must be something that the warden wants to access
scenic oar
that it cant unless it has a physical form
and it needs the DNA of somebody from the pod to get to it
stone vine
yeah it needed the dna to imprint the baby
but why use human dna
o-o unless the baby isnt actually a human
stone vine
lmaooo
but also
why were all of the neonates missing in E1
like it doesnt make sense
why would they only leave one
o-o
late basalt
right... i thought that too
stone vine
and where did all of the hsu go
late basalt
imagine E1... but you had to extract all of them
stone vine
oh god
late basalt
rip
stone vine
50 babies lol
stone vine
lmao
i think that the big strikers are on steroids
body building sleepers take it too far
late basalt
prob
scenic oar
but why use human dna
@stone vine
It's not about human DNA in general, Its about specific DNA. Whatever the warden wants to access is likely secured by some sort of genetic lock, similar to the bioscan locks we see in the maps
stone vine
oh you right you right
didnt think of it like that
otherwise any of the hsu would suffice
scenic oar
This game also takes place way the hell in the future too
stone vine
mmhmm 2050
scenic oar
The email on the terminal in A1 says 2050
but if you listen to the Behind the Scenes by the Devs, they say the complex has been abandoned for hundreds of years
stone vine
wait a damn minute
so this would be like 2350
o-o
ohhhh shit
thats a damn long time
scenic oar
I'd say at minimum 2150
stone vine
yeahh thats actually crazy
and that means that our characters are probably like hundreds of years old
because the hsu can preserve bodies as long as they are at a normal status...
yikes
scenic oar
Realistically, even stasis has some level of diminishing returns to it.
especially considering it was designed around 2050
Here's another one for you
Have you ever noticed that every hole to the surface, the floors are pushed UP like something shot out of the ground as opposed to downwards like something bored into it?
stone vine
yeah i have a picture for ya\
hold up
i think ik what did it
shit i cant find the picture
theres only like one picture of it so its really hard to find
celest pagoda
Anyone know what exactly big ol needle does to the Neonate in D1? I know it says it connects the Neo to the Neural frame but I'm assuming that has similar context to our cortex interface injection?
stone vine
yeah i think so
celest pagoda
I see, so why do we leave the poor bastard back there?
solar nova
@celest pagoda Allows to read and write DNA
stone vine
I FOUND IT YESS
celest pagoda
I wonder if this storyline/arc with the neonate will continue in R4.
celest pagoda
Thats from the 2017 name reveal aint it?
stone vine
idk man but this shit is cool asf
scenic oar
@celest pagoda I'm pretty sure the Big Needle is used to create a neural link between The Warden and a Human in an attempt to create a physical Avatar
celest pagoda
The old 2017 name reveal
stone vine
yeah yeah most likely
scenic oar
El ChungaMungus?
scenic oar
A construct of The Warden
So he can drop you into the complex to do it's bidding
Because it's an ASI and doesn't have a physical form...
yet
It's not about the warden becoming the baby
stone vine
i think its more of a warden using the baby lmaoo
scenic oar
its about The Warden needing an Avatar with a specific genetic sequence to gain access to something
stone vine
yeah to interact with something
stone vine
?
scenic oar
It could even be that The Warden is trying to gain access to the very servers it runs on.
celest pagoda
about the warden it says "Don't make eye contact with them, just do as you're told"
scenic oar
The baby is essentially a Peripheral
celest pagoda
check the welcome page in the discord
scenic oar
kind of like a USB cable with a Biometric scanner
stone vine
yeah but that doesnt explain why a mom spawns then
it must be linked to the sleepers aswell then
stone vine
lmao
celest pagoda
Well darn
stone vine
funny
yeah but mammoth why would a mother specifically spawn
theres a blaring alarm
no mothers spawn then
this isnt just a "loud noise"
the baby is linked to the mother in a way
scenic oar
Maybe its just evil and wants to control the spoopy dudes
I mean, we still have no idea what the state of the world around us is yet
scenic oar
Maybe it wants to raise an army to destroy the world
stone vine
it is a very intelligent hive mind
scenic oar
Straight GLadOS level scheming
stone vine
hmm i wonder if the big mother sent a message out to a little mother to get the baby
scenic oar
hmm
stone vine
like wonder if the baby was connected to the big one
scenic oar
starting to see parallels between GTFO limited story and Portal Story now
stone vine
lmaoo
scenic oar
I mean.....
giant underground abandoned research facilities
ASIs making you do their bidding/testing
A complete lack of cake
The only thing missing from GTFO is the Portal Gun itself lol
stone vine
next rundown new weapon- portal gun
oh look also i found something pretty cool
these are lymph nodes, and when one swells up it turns into a little bumo
bump
i wonder if the infection causes swelling in these lymph nodes
or it could just be something like herpies lol
i found this kinda similar tho
Immune system glands that usually enlarge in response to a bacterial or viral infection
seems pretty plausible
remote stag
Those are some big god dang glands.. but it sounds plausible.
Lymph nodes usually are around an inch or two at best. Those would be some big ass nodes.
Swelling does match though. Good catch!
scenic oar
Bear in mind, these suckers have had time to mutate
stone vine
mmhmm but lymph nodes dont reach the head so it doesnt seem likely, but the other swelled bumps look like lymph nodes
scenic oar
a Human Lymph gland might be 1 inch in diameter but over time with mutation/evolution they could have grown larger to account for the infection
Shooters just have blue waffle of the head
scenic oar
Japanese Hentai Monsters
scenic oar
...
stone vine
yep
scenic oar
I'm gonna need to get a Rift and some extra underwear then
hot burrow
mods don't like people talking about it
scenic oar
possibly some adult diapers
stone vine
lol
hot burrow
learned that the hard way
stone vine
alright i wont say anymore abt it, i just know it exists
scenic oar
Dear Mods,
I love the game, keep up the good work. Your focus on the levels is admirable. Can we please have VR support on release?
Sincerely,
Everyone who wants to poop their pants booshing spoopy doods
stone vine
hahaha
honestly i dont think i can do vr games
id pass out
i get really light headed when i game already sooo
scenic oar
Have you tried using Blue Light Reduction settings
stone vine
no, how do i do that?
broken mason
F.lux is a software that does blue light reduction , that or maybe turning motion blur on/off could do it
stone vine
thanks
stone vine
also guys notice how D1 is named Bianhua, that means change in Chinese apparantly
that could be relevent seeing how each level name quarralates with what we do in the level
stone vine
mhm so im assuming we are changing the baby, but in what way
we wake it up, but i dont know if its considered "changing"
mortal stone
given that 'bianhua' means metamorphosis
stone vine
yep
mortal stone
there has to be something to do with it
stone vine
yeah what could we have dont that badly to the child like
we didnt exactly hurt it
or do much to it
we just hooked it up to the neural link
stone vine
though who knows what the sleepers will do with it though...
mortal stone
i do like the idea of making the warden a sort of avatar but i don't know why it'd be a baby
stone vine
well the neural link is made for a baby correct
mortal stone
and not just sacrifice one of the prisoners bc it clearly doesn't give a shit if they die
yeah, the little cradle thing
stone vine
the baby had to have been different in some way
mortal stone
definitely
stone vine
not just an ordinary one
stone vine
there were actually a LOT
of babies
like tooonnnsss
but they were all gone
i assume they all went to the mother
stone vine
lemme show u a pic rq
mortal stone
oh damn lol
stone vine
yep i dont think the mothers "give birth"
i think it legit took the babies and put them in fucking nests
what kind of fucked up shit
o-o
mortal stone
yeah that's a gross conclusion that i think makes sense
stone vine
yeah like think about it, why are there so many deshelling machines
i shouldnt say shell but yknow what i mean
and why so many resuscitation machines
what could they have possibly done to that many babies
unless they were weaponizing the hive mind
placid basin
I think it's simply talking about the big mama. We don't know why she is bigger than the rest
stone vine
and each time they tried a mother would come and take the baby
which is why the big mom is still there
its a weird theory but it kinda makes sense to me
hm big mom is kinda hard to explain but its probably the same as the big strikers and shooters
i assume it was experimentation
if you see there are actually 4 tubes in the room with the mom
and the room was designed perfectly to fit the mom
the infection was introduced to humans via testing and then it spread from there
also i think this thing 
yellow syringe
void walrus
Its pretty easy to kill but r u sure ur in the right channel?
fair lion
did you discuss what spitters are with your theory?
spark trout
can anyone DM me a whole lore and story of the game ?
hot burrow
Check pins
candid thistle
where would an incompetent goofball such as myself find pins?
lilac island
At the top next to the search bar
mellow prairie
the dam cooter shooters you mean
candid thistle
ah, thanks!
fierce nexus
Has anyone made transcriptions of the logs found in the terminals in the levels?
acoustic quest
the text logs and audio logs i believe
devout geyser
Has anyone made transcriptions of the logs found in the terminals in the levels?
@fierce nexus https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/Rundown_003#Logs
willow tinsel
do the sleepers have some kind of parasite? or is it just some mutations?
stiff island
For the most part, it seems like a parasite.
But some people think it's a fungus.
Or a virus.
storm patrol
Mutation, I’d say
It’s not infectious as far as we’re aware. Sleepers do not infect players when they down
solar nova
@storm patrol Mutation doesn't make any sense
Random damage or rewrite of DNA wouldn't result in very uniform body re-development.
stone vine
Yeah but just because an infection doesn’t spread orally doesn’t mean it’s not an infection
They aren’t snakes, they don’t have venom
These aren’t zombies either like the devs stated
Also it is a parasite, but a parasitic fungus specifically
solar nova
There is no evidence that it's anything specific, including fungus
stone vine
I’m pretty sure the devs said it was
solar nova
Where?
stone vine
idk people kept telling me that
solar nova
Well no, they've never said shit about it
The only comment we have is about parasitic eggs, and it's unclear if it's canonical.
solar nova
That's literally a dev comment.
stone vine
The fuck someone said the devs were rebutting that idea
Can u send me the thing where the devs said that lol I need to see this shit
Oh I saw it now all cool, I saw the comment
My bad
Let me restate my answer, most likely a parasitic fungus
late basalt
so... If strikers aremale
And shooters are female
by that regard, hybrids are shemales
lilac island
Hybrids are traps?
broken mason
are hybrids gay then?🤔 🤔 🤔
verbal hull
asexual
broken mason
nah pustules are asexual
late basalt
^
lilac island
Best me to it, Goddam it.
urban reef
yes
lilac island
Would you kindly not.
late basalt
thx
urban reef
yes
calm moth
:linuswider1: :linuswider2: :linuswider3: :linuswider4: :linuswider5:
urban reef
thats hot
boreal crypt
bruh
calm moth
why was @urban reef muted
boreal crypt
you know damn well
idle bramble
They are 
late basalt
oof
acoustic quest
please even that it happened something keep the chat lore related let the mods clean everything
idle bramble
Aye lore is for lore and that's it no bs just theories and other lore related stuff
boreal crypt
Tar covered sleepers?
idle bramble
Probably just dipped in tar
late basalt
^
late basalt
oil
idle bramble
More like a corpse being infested and a the worm
late basalt
and nails
late basalt
hmm
late basalt
on an infected penguin
late basalt
boreal crypt
I think we should have more chargers in-game tho
arent they supposed to be "guards" of sorts
so
mothers should have them near
to guard them
imagine b2
but with
4-8 chargers
chilling with the mother
what
i dont
Cannibalism
hrmmm
sentence
lol
i think
the mother should have more attacks
cause if you find a place thats
a little higher
the babies cant reach you
and the mother is defenseless
the fog isnt even infections smh
yea
when you pop one
then
they come out
lilac island
Some of these ideas are great but we have to take a medical stand point at this these creatures are affected by a parasite, infection, etc. we just don't have that pinpointed, now we know that there is human test subjects who are affected by this but not all of them all mama is producing them, but from what we know she only mass produces when under attack and can also produce her own fog. any point she lays those sacks on the wall but that's all I know about mama anyone who has more facts feel free to @ me, so we know how some of the more basic and simple sleepers are made but the Chargers seem off, what produces them they have hardened skin which is different from all of the others who have very weak and nimble structures and can easily lose a limb to a average prisoner, but the chargers only have this on the front on there back they have the same nimble and weak points as other sleepers. I personally think this is just a mutation introduced with human testing or just genetic mutation grown on its own. Another thing about the charger is there faces have spikes which I have no explanation for except the mutation idea. This brings me to my conclusion the mama I think produced the chargers and they are more of a new breed to the sleeper's ranks due to their spike in population of the facility around the C1 area, they have not had the time to make there way toward the top of the facility, that or they don't have the need to assuming the sleepers are connected by a hive mind, now I don't think the mutation of sleepers is one done by just normal genetics seeing the sleepers don't so sexual reproduction or asexual reproduction so I think the chargers are being made by Mama on her will they are not accidents they are her front line
feel free to tear this apart so we can get more opinions on the matter
stone vine
I’m not sure mama reproduces, atleast not normally
I feel like the babies existed beforehand
And the mama kind of took them in and wrapped them in these nests
Because if we take into account how the mama appears in D1, why would it do that? If it could just make babies then why does it want to interact with this one
It’s really confusing for now, we need more information on the mother
Also, about the chargers, it can’t have solidified on them fully because it still moves
If you look closely it looks like the tar is moving which I find really weird
almost like it’s an organism on its own
Not just plain old tar
Idk though could be anything
These are all good ideas tho guys 😄 I love it
stone vine
Hopefully next rundown we can see what the nests hatch
hot burrow
Rundown 4 has another thing you can't kill
Like the eggs and the pods that pop on you
remote stag
I swear if those eggs pop into the babies I'll bring the combat shotgun every damn mission
remote stag
I'm guessing if they are eggs it'll be a new enemy.
I mean, the mother spawns the babies anyways straight from the.. mother.
So the eggs are..?
sharp pawn
Well boys, you know what they say.
Gotta crack a few egg to make an omlette.
lilac island
Sleeper omelette sounds kinda good
wise harbor
so i'm right
fervent iris
no
wise harbor
WDYM NO
sharp pawn
Looks like a fucking vault
fervent iris
are you joking?
wise harbor
no
hushed roost
its a drill
fervent iris
^
wise harbor
it's a door
fervent iris
very obviously a drill
sharp pawn
Oh wait i am fucking dumb 😂
cursive wigeon
Thank you
fervent iris
a flattened multi worm well drill
cursive wigeon
Now my team can actually play the game
wise harbor
are you sure
sharp pawn
Drill yes
wise harbor
i need proof
sharp pawn
it go brr
fervent iris