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hoary meteor
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Or a singular root that likes to tickle u

stone vine
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hey can someone send a pic of the B1 log

stone vine
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someone said they found it earlier

orchid bramble
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hey what logs have been found

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I have some pics and audio files

stone vine
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warden can u send me the audio for D1 and C1, i havent recorded those

orchid bramble
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its in the slide

stone vine
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cant view it lol]

orchid bramble
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same

stone vine
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thanks

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๐Ÿ™‚

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i downloaded it

orchid bramble
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thanks

stone vine
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thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

orchid bramble
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can I join you warden

stone vine
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yo ill join to

orchid bramble
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thanks if you need me to help with a1 I do that

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wait are u looking

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the research lore

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@lilac island

stone vine
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oh i have a definition

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that explains the plants

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hold on

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In contrast with the saprotrophic fungi, parasitic fungi attack living organisms, penetrate their outer defenses, invade them, and obtain nourishment from living cytoplasm, thereby causing disease and sometimes death of the host. Most pathogenic (disease-causing) fungi are parasites of plants

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they most likely started with plants and then moved on to human subjects

orchid bramble
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oh ok, I have pic of 90% of the tablets

stone vine
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oh i only got a couple D1 pics, can u send me a few warden?

orchid bramble
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here Ill try to send all the a1 pics

stone vine
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sweet

orchid bramble
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ok I have 63 screan shot to show

stone vine
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put them in a folder

orchid bramble
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there may be duplicates

lilac island
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so you're saying you're gonna send D pics?

stone vine
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lmaoo

orchid bramble
lilac island
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BRUH

stone vine
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karma

orchid bramble
stone vine
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put all of them in a folder and then send the photo

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admins are gonna get ticked

orchid bramble
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k

stone vine
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alright cool

orchid bramble
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how would u like them

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give to u

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because discord is say it doesn't support the folder

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can u dm your guys email

lilac island
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just ship me a copy of the files in a usb ||joking||

stone vine
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print out each photo individually and send them to me via pigeon

lilac island
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I'm surprised there's resistance stuff in the logs

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like join the resistance in the audio logs

stone vine
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i think these people are like catching on to whats happening in the facility

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people are probably going missing and their deaths are being covered up

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there are so many HSUs, itd have to be some people from the outside world

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they are probably resisting being lied to, and like the radio name, are uncovering the truth

stone vine
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shit dude i was watching a video about pizza and totally forgot to join

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lmao

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oh yeah no way that was an earthquake

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something else caused it

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something huge o-o

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an earthquake just seems to, straightforward for a game like this

neon cedar
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the highest recorded earthquake was a 9.4-9.6 in chile

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so it is still technically an earth quake unless it goes over ten

stone vine
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what i mean is that it wasnt actually a natural earthquake

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and the fact that there was no seismic activity beforehand

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seems very unlikely it was just an earthquake

neon cedar
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the Yucatan peninsula mentioned in the log is right in line with two tectonic plates, so a large impact or explosion could have lead to a shift.

plucky bloom
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how do u guys exactly find tha tablets and is the audio logs the terminals that are talking?

glad oar
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what are your thoughts on the momma's

stone vine
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the moms are hot

neon cedar
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are there logs in d1

solemn star
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Quick thought here. Maybe not exactly lore related but maybe it pertains to the game. In the original trailer, the one dude talks about how he wakes up from a dream, says its the same people every time, he recognizes them etc. But this game has a heavy emphasis on the parts of the brain like after you inject to get to the rundown. And how it says cortex interface esablished (paraphrasing) What if this is all a simulation? And that could explain multiple runs with dying while still keeping a coherent storyline.

neon cedar
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that we know of

solemn star
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Just an idea I had

stone vine
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scredit, i think warden transmits other people memories into our ones

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that way we know what to do each time and dont go in blind and die

solemn star
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That makes sense too because of the little bits of script we get to start off the mission. Where it reads as other prisoners.

orchid bramble
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guys I think I know why the shaft has the melt look like something broke out from benth

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A gaint sleeper beast mentioned in r2b1

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splash text

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read it

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yay I think a larger verison np

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no

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we were causeing it to come to use

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us

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from b2

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which I think a even larger on burst out of the ground causing the shaft

cursive plover
orchid bramble
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no it was something bigger gaints

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because the warden know we can kill them

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because of the begain of b2

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he know we can deal with gaints

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yay I am saying we aren't distracting giants

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I am say were distracting something worse

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and big and bad

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like maybe a f ton of charger

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s

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also rember the large bio mass from round 1

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c1

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yay

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nvm

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yay

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wait the rundown 2 logs together say they have a mining mission

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wait but if were here

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at chicxulub

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then how are we get all the research things if this was just a mining expedition

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but they using the mining as a cover up for there Garganta so shouldn't there not be any lab stuff

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right [r] warden

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yay but these are government agencies so there allowed every were

stone vine
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i was thinking that maybe the biomass is the nest

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think about it

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ohhh

orchid bramble
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yes

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I would

stone vine
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so you know the email from R2 right

orchid bramble
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there check for anything

stone vine
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the compiled logs

orchid bramble
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yay

stone vine
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and how in the A1 audio log it says the truth has an inside source

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what if thats McCallister

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because the email stated McCallister was getting a little nosy

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and that email was made approx a month after the audio file

orchid bramble
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maybe

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also @lilac island your right

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but what I think is that

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they were diging a new facility

digital carbon
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Hello all, could someone give me a quick rundown of the basic lore without any spoilers?

orchid bramble
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that is imposable

digital carbon
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My friend and I bought the game today and played for a few hours but didnt get much lore

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Ah gotcha okay

stone vine
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warden sends prisoners into complex to complete objections in order to gain info

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basic as can be

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objectives**

digital carbon
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But are we on Earth? Or elsewhere?

stone vine
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earth

digital carbon
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Interesting thank you

stone vine
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year is 2050 or later

orchid bramble
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well continuing [r] warden are conversion

stone vine
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an even better one for this rundown would be

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baby is annoying as hell and we use it as a ||telephone||

digital carbon
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And is this sort of a way out of prison for the prisoners? Completing the objectives?

stone vine
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nope

digital carbon
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Oh interesting

stone vine
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they are just forced to do it ๐Ÿ™‚

digital carbon
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The game is just so amazing

stone vine
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no they arent

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they are from the HSUs

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in the complex

digital carbon
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So like violent criminals and what not?

stone vine
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they probably live in good conditions seeing as they are all fit and well taken care of

digital carbon
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HSU means high security unit?

stone vine
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no

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Hydro Statis Unit

digital carbon
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Ah I see

stone vine
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so like their bodies are preserved

digital carbon
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So it's a mineshaft?

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Where did all of the underground facilities come from?

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I get the impression that the gas that infected us while we were playing has caused the mutants or aliens or whatever.

stone vine
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lmao borderlands but in a different universe

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nope human testing

digital carbon
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Oh lord

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That's worse

stone vine
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they started running tests on the humans in order to create a sleeper i think

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cuz uhhh

digital carbon
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For war?

stone vine
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i saw something very unsettling in a test tube

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hmm maybe

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or just curiosity

digital carbon
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How hard is 2 player? To complete the maps?

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We failed about a half a dozen times, got really close I think on the last go

stone vine
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A1-A3 pretty easy if youre both skilled

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B1 aswell

digital carbon
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Well the first few attempts

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We decided not to look anything up

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And just went in blastin

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Gotcha okay

stone vine
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oh yeah C1 was o-o

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scared the shit outta us

digital carbon
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Help for the baddies or for puzzles?

stone vine
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especially the end was not expected

digital carbon
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Damn I'm so excited to play again now

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I just want more lore

stone vine
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yeah i just want to speak with the devs haha ๐Ÿ™‚

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hahaha

digital carbon
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They seem like good devs

stone vine
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i was shaking for the rest of the match after what they did

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all of us were scared shitless lmao

digital carbon
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Add who did what?

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After*

stone vine
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devs put something in C1 but I wont spoil

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youll see

digital carbon
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No no I might not even get there

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Yeah sure

stone vine
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wait wardeb

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warden

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do u own the slideshow?

digital carbon
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Thanks

stone vine
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ooooh cool

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thanks btw

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also i have a theory on the titans

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so you know in the syringe log for the yellow one it says it increases strength for abt 8 seconds but has some symptoms afterwards

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what if they used them on the sleepers

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creating a much more powerful one

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it would explain why the head stays the same size but all the muscles are expanded

solar nova
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I think that would be too many titans for them to create, seems more to me like the sleepers are highly specialized colony organisms which benefit from castes and division of labor.

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Similar to how some ants have majors and supermajors.

devout geyser
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@lilac island you're missing a log >.<

outer escarp
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Thanks for the logs <3

old quiver
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Anyone here read the book Annihilation?

The enemies reminded me of that. The fungal overtones, the glowing, the hatred of the light, living deep underground.

royal gull
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Can we assume that the Complex (or Garganta ?) construction began sometimes after september 2049 since they attached blueprints that I assume are related to the facility (D1 log). And regarding the dates on logs, can we assume that the flood they mention in R2's mail is related to the earthquake we found in B1 ?

indigo gale
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A 9.8 on Richter scale? Good grief, what the hell happened down there?

solar nova
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I feel like that's where the holes came from...

royal gull
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My guess it is related to the dig site, they used explosives to open a cavity before creating the complex.

solar nova
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So apparently the mystery of what made the rundown shafts is a pretty big deal if it's serious enough to cause a massive earthquake.

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I seriously doubt mining explosives are going to cause an earthquake.

royal gull
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I agree with that, the expeditions are hundred of meters down there. An industrial explosion big enough to cause an earthquake this big would be enourmous.

indigo gale
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Yeah, that log entry, which was a news report, said the quake was felt all the way over in Dallas.

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Reading the logs in that Google Docs file was quite interesting.

austere depot
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@solar nova The earthquake is listed to have occurred in 2049 - where as the planned dig was expected to start at 2050. What if the Earthquake was what allowed the company access to Yucatan.

Yucatan is home to many wonders and the great yucatan bank many energy companies dream of today, is not accessible due to the fear of what the drilling might do to the natural environment. If a natural disaster were to occur, splitting open a great rift in the Peninsuela and ruining the landscape, perhaps many of those ethical bounderies were removed in the aftermath of the devastation.

The logs refer to a 'great chasm' - and as it is the gulf of mexico, this could help explain why another site was established at 'Garganta' (at Punta Sur). Might, I say might, be hints to the width of the chasm.

If so, the disaster would more likely to have been natural in origin (nature is scary) - and perhaps revealed something of which the company took interest in.

The Iridium may be strong indicators as to how deep the chasm went. Researchers today use Iridium as a tracer to track pre-historic earth, the santonian age especially since the impact at Chuxilub caused an influx of Iridium traces on a global scale - traces of which are found in earth samples at depths of which the Santonian age samples would have sunk to - which the chasm became a gateway to.

solar nova
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Ah, so the dates are pre-complex?

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That would actually make a lot of sense to explain Santonian's motivations.

wraith matrix
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Hey fish. What did you think about the C1 description cypher

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G?6IA64E65 86@8C2A9:42= 52E2 >:D>2E49[2C62 566>65 F?DE23=6] turns into unexpected geographical data mismatch,area deemed unstable.

austere depot
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I can take a shot at it!
First the mission description:
"DNA sample retrieved during ALPHA protocol corrupted. Needed for Neural Imprint. Prisoners sent on retrieval."

Alpha protocol - first operation has been corrupted and is needed for Neural imprint of he Neonate.
There is something they are hoping to 'imprint neurally' onto the Neonate and the DNA the prisoners are sent to retrieve have a connection to this task.

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upon unexpected geographical data, it means it does not match the prior expected 'geographical measurements'

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something has been moved or shifted with no data pattern to calculate its current state or its pattern of potential movement

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  1. It could be believed to be on the verge of collapse.
  2. It could be on the verge of collapse.
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  1. It could be believed unstable for other reasons.
wraith matrix
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What is the alpha protocol?

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It reads like its a different mission but clearly in C1 you are getting genetic material, not before

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Unless the grammer is just fucked

austere depot
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I do not know. By going by name - Alpha means primary - initial - first

Protocol - terms of conduct and terms of operation

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proceedure in short

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so what It may tell us, without deriving details of its conduct or operation, is that Alpha Protocol may have been the 'first operation'

wraith matrix
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The first warden mission?

austere depot
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Good question ๐Ÿค”

wraith matrix
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People been saying C1 is heavily influenced by the alpha map

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Not sure if the alpha is Canon or not though.

austere depot
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Damn.. That would be a good callback then!
Oof...Alpha versions are often deemed 'unstable'

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do you think the developers might have snuck a joke in there? x'D

wraith matrix
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Wait it says prisoners sent for retrieval of a DNA sample during an operation called the alpha protocol that was already retrieved? Wtf?

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So confusing

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Unless the alpha protocol part is just lore and the corrupted DNA makes it useless

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So we need a replacement

real cedar
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Alpha protocol can be pMother samples in R2

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That iS genetic material, if it is plasmids we are talking about

austere depot
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Potentially to both. Well, I have an idea that might be, might not be worth looking into. When starting R3C1 - is it the same HSU at the start of every mission or does the number differ?

If so, can the identity of the HSU contents be learned?

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and, the crazy notion, would that match with the name of the GTFO alpha?

wraith matrix
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I'm pretty sure it can be different

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There are 2 zones it can be in

austere depot
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Ah, figures. Damn.. does not prove and does not disprove anything then

wraith matrix
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Wait, you mean query the Hsu in c1?

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What would that do

austere depot
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yep. I know this would probably be a mismatch. But imagine if the name inside the HSU in R3C1 matches that of the GTFO alpha mission

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and was the same object of retrieval

wraith matrix
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I kinda doubt it

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I think its more likely C1 is literally "yeah you guys got a fucked up sample before now get another one pronto" -warden

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The map itself is definitely a call back though

austere depot
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potentally. Could have been the mother samples though as NISI suggested. if they were primed for extraction and remained in the dig, outside an HSU or without sufficient shielding - corruption could have occurred

wraith matrix
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The exact origin of the alpha protocol samples isn't really important regardless

real cedar
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I'm going to hold back on that, I need to do a bit of reading first. I've been off for 2 weeks, and still taking a break for 3 more, before I jump back into the game.

wraith matrix
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The question is why the warden needs the baby to be connected to some sort of neural network

stoic rock
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because the data sample may be a potential weapon to use against the sleepers

wraith matrix
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What if the warden is trying to complete an experiment?

austere depot
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The prisoners are also part of a neural network. To imprint however is to attempt to write 'data' onto it.
Could be for conditioning. Potentially an attempt to control it.

stoic rock
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id say control

wraith matrix
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The warden is like 99% likely to be Santonian industries anyway, so it makes sense they are trying to finish their research

real cedar
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What if the warden is the AI and it is simply trying to finish the experiment as it was programmed. (I think it's a bit too simplistic but it may be an option )

wraith matrix
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The baby is basically a genetically modified baby sleeper

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So neurally imprinting it may allow someone to control them remotely

austere depot
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After I started to think of the infected as capable of asexual reproduction (spawning more of themselves independent of hosts) - I began to reconsider the company's choice of tactics.

If the complex was home to a giant organism that could explode with endless numbers at the sight of a giant threat such as an invading force, then a small stealth based operation would be a better alternative. Wait for the creatures to enter 'hibernation' and move around with... potentially minimal presence.

What interests me however is that we extract data from an HSU normally intended for humanoids. I have not yet played R3C1 - so I cannot confirm. Is there a human being in there or a genetic sample of some other kind?

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If a human being, then it is quite a peculiar dna for 'inprint'

wraith matrix
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The only reason to do such a thing would be if there was something to gain, question is what and why.

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The why isn't that important, but the only goal I can think of is control.

austere depot
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Well, we also have yet to find the full answer to how we relate to the prisoners.

some suspect the neural cortex implant allow the players to direct the characters externally from an HSU unit

What if the idea was the creation of such a vessel?

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wait, that is just silly now that I think about it. If the HSU controlling it was stuck in that basement - that would be stupid...

wraith matrix
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What we do in R3 has to have already been performed many times before, given all the equipment.

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So researching the genetic manipulation and neural imprinting process is definitely the labs primary goal

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It really seems like the warden is really just using us to redo an experiment that originally went wrong

royal gull
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It really seems like the warden is really just using us to redo an experiment that originally went wrong
@wraith matrix What logs or clue makes you think of this ?

real cedar
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I always wondered what the Inject is when you start the game.
You always Inject (I suspect inject your mind into the prisoners cortex) And then it says Cortex interface established or something like that . Then you start hearing underwater noises so you are now in the HSU.

Having another mind in your cortex might also explain why they all look crazy in the loadout interface menu, they bash their heads, shake, etc.

Does the warden want to imprint another mind inside the baby's cortex ? To retrieve some information perhaps, or to even control it as it has been suggested here before.

Having control of a sleeper...would it allow you to travel through the complex with no issues ?

Sorry to divert a bit.

austere depot
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@royal gull The surface transmissions are different this time. All of them do appear to follow a group of prisoners who are suggested to carry their own Neonates.

The Cold Storrage are also suspicious, to be filled with a multitude of empty stands suited to hold Neonate sized HSU's. Might lend some support that another group of prisoners have been in our shoes before.

@real cedar Another thought struck me - a neural link might work both ways. It might wish to both imprint and to replicate an 'imprint' of its neural system, perhaps for research purposes.

lilac island
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Somebody stated that the reason you use the HSU is to replace staff in a moments notice. For example, if a miner gets killed. You will need to replace him immediately.

So what happens when the shit goes fucked and boom boom? You have a emergency service that's dedicated for clearing and swooping up. Guess who's that? That's the Prisoners. Nobody cares about them, some even consider them low in human society. So imagine using them as a to cleanup? Not like anyone cares if they are gone or not. We know the company is behind Everything in log files. So it's not impossible to think they secretly take prisoners. Why do you think there is a high number of deaths?

wraith matrix
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@royal gull Its mostly just speculation, but there is something important to keep in mind. The warden knows the layout of the complex and the equipment needed to accomplish its goal. Heavily implies that the warden is literally Santonian industries.

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So given that, and also how they are having us use equipment and other objects already in the facility suggests we are completing what the original occupants of the complex were trying to do.

austere depot
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What does not support it however is the way the fascility resets. Unless - a horrifying though - there could be conflicting protocols inside the warden unit itself

wraith matrix
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What do you mean reset?

austere depot
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It is a machine, it thinks as a machine. If there is a protocol to retrieve the samples or as you suggested, perform the experiment at all costs - while also maintaining orders and protocols for keeping the fascility shut and on lockdown

wraith matrix
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I don't think its a machine at all.

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I think its more of an automated system with minimal human feedback.

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There is no reason why the warden needs to be this overly complicated AI and nothing supports that conclusion either

austere depot
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Automated system then - what if that automated system had conflicting orders? It would not experience conflicts the same way a human being would as it would percieve logic according to commands.

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It would all be according to order and progress to the system. If it was ordered to open the door at one specific time, then to shut it at the end of the day on an automatic response, it would do so

wraith matrix
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I'm not sure thats really lore based

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I would think canon wise the doors that are opened stay open

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sleepers that were dead stay dead

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it doesn't make any sense for the warden to be able to close a bunch of doors when we already achieved its objectives in that expedition

austere depot
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it could be protocol. The doors require a bioscan - which we have questioned. With the level of infection being present - what if the bioscan played into that mechanic?

Such doors could have been put into place to maintain to at least some level, a degree of separation, containment and quarantine not to mention level of access. If the security doors remained open after the initial bioscan, it would defeat the purpose of the potential containment

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With the red bloody doors (where the infected attempt to break through), it notifies that a 'hostile biomass' is present at the other end of the door.

wraith matrix
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That would make sense if the elevator shaft wasn't jam packed with infection fog already

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and it doesn't seem like the shaft is sealed either

austere depot
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Fog repellers could have given out

I agree though, that it might not hold water and is unlikley - even if possible. Just a humorous thought that the warden itself might be its own worst enemy due to uncorrected protocols.

Say there is a security door. The warden is responsible for the security of the fascility. So if that door was opened without very specific clearances, protocol demands it plays and alarm. The warden have also been instructed to get the prisoners behind that door. The warden itself is an automated system, thus unable to dictate its own 'logic' the same way a human would.

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  • it instructs the prisoners to open the door, regardless if they have the proper clearance.
  • Protocol demands it plays an alert - it MUST obey its protocols
  • Protocol for guiding prisoners then demand it instructs the prisoners to disable the alert in a way that 'compromises' between both protocols
wraith matrix
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Seems unlikely the warden would have that level of access to a clearly damaged facility.

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Seems like the warden is basically just a prisoner deployment system that is controlled through various protocols put in place by Santonian.

austere depot
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Yeah. I agree. I had fun writing it regardless.

wraith matrix
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Hackett being a Santonian employee, now a prisoner is probably not a coincidence

austere depot
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More an observation than any theory - but there are an awful ammount of white rags in the labs at R3A1. Anyone else thinking labcoats?

stone vine
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maybe labcoats or some kind of cover

real cedar
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Hey Fish, I was thinking about the imprint and what you mentioned.
Would you think it's possible to imprint something into the neonate cortex ?
Like telling it: here, everyone who has This Specific gene (AKA IS human) is fine and dont need to kill it. Or the other way around: kill sleepers.

What is scarier is that if these things replicate on their own, if you have that kind of engineering power, Starting with one baby, you could breed sleepers weaponised against a specific genetic profile. (I think it's a bit far fetched) .

austere depot
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The logs also indicate that they distributed the syringes among the miners, especially the green steroid syringe that increases hammer power.

They also conducted tests of the "injury infection liquid pharmacon" (I2-LP) with a "severity of side effects that are seemingly random"

To me, this souds like careless distribution of drugs that build infection. The steroid drug were distributed to miners as a way to keep working in environments where cables for their mining equipment could not reach.

Were they stressed and pressed for time? It appears, on the first read, as if they used both the miners and their medical staff in a form of 'assembly line science experiment'.

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@real cedar If the drugs I just wrote about are any indication to their genetic properties, then there may be other reasons for it as well.

I am of the belief that with the correct science and knowledge of patterns, anything can be conditioned. It is just a matter of knowing how to do it, to write genetic programming for a subject. With knowledge of the code, it should be theoretically possible to 'write instincts' within that genetic capacity. Humans are only unique due to cognitive abilities. We too are animals and can be imprinted through designed stimuli.

The traits the drugs exhibit are possibly traits found desireable in the unidentified biomass. Great strength and survivability. If the behavior patterns are any indication however, they are aggressive and troublesome. Little to no cognition to be found in the specimens we have encountered so far.

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A possibillity for the neonate might be a bridge between the genomes. Perhaps a way to solve the side-effects encountered in the drugs by aligning it more to a 'human' genetic blueprint. Basically basing it on genomes that are more familiar with human genetics. (just a theory - hell, I do not even know the full science behind it)

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The true use for the imprint is a mystery as of yet and could carry many implications for both research purposes and yes, possible weaponization of the biomass.

Cognition is a human trait - which is what made us the most dangerous animal on earth (until now)

stone vine
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the baby should be put down

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no baby 2020

real cedar
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I'd advise against that ๐Ÿ™‚ we don't know anything about the state of the world...that baby may be quite important.

austere depot
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I am...conflicted on the idea of putting the baby down.
It could very well, be the key to the next step in human evolution if it unlocked traits exhibited by the syringe drugs

stone vine
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i dont care the baby should be killed

real cedar
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I felt that, through E1. But I'll need more evidence before pulling the trigger on the lil' guy.

dull orchid
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does this mean that there is a new explosion elsewhere that leads to the lab

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? o.o

real cedar
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Why are the explosions so well...directed ?
It almost feels like the mines we use: directed charge. Very strong in terms of kinetic energy, but focused in a (pretty tight ) cone.

dull orchid
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and there are alot of other droppods outside

austere depot
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The idea of neural imprint however is disturbing. No human is truly free of imprinting. It happens to us from the moment we are born into a social environment - and we are by our natural design, intended to be so. By accident or otherwise.

We cling and long to our parents as infants and are thus - imprinted by their social interactions towards us. It takes a long time for our minds to develop and our minds are developed in synergy to the social environemnt around us.

As social creatures in a social environment, imprinting is by our traits, our form of evolution.

The warden using neural imprinting however... that may be a very dark and twisted way of going about it. Potentially it implies the complete lack of agency and choice on the side of the Neonate, meaning it could be utterly designed and raised in accorance with the company's design

real cedar
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I think that is a good point....it also seems to happen very ...fast in the case of prisoners (if it is the same process).

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Or at least...at a much faster rate than intended.

austere depot
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we as humans often underestimate the vulnerability of our cognition. Our brains function to a high degree upon chemistry. Throw one new drug in there and it could change much about how you feel and how you percieve reality.

It is also why it would be a complex matter to splice our genetics. How would that affect cognition? Would cognition be present at all? Would that cognition align and understand our form of cognition? or view reality differently al together..

real cedar
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If what you say is true, Fish, then it seems to me The Warden can direct the evolution of this neonate. Direct it where is an entirely different subject.

austere depot
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Its potential cognitive evolution, within the boundaries of its genetic code, yes. Though, if the warden does not know what it is doing, things could also go awfully wrong

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If it is spliced with human genomes, it could still be affected by an alternate genetic code.
If the imprint primarily relies upon human imprinting

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it could make a grivious error if the similarities are vast and different

real cedar
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Just a hunch, but I have a feeling he does not.
In a way, he is still experimenting. Sending people in, getting neonates, trying it again and again.

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DNA messes up on it's own in human body as it is now, let alone when you mix things like that. I think it's very prone to errors. Unless they have developed new technologies to bypass that.

austere depot
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Would have to be a very complex simulation system.
Might be that the Neonate will be the basis for the full game if the process goes awry.

I am still preplexed that my christ / anti-christ comparison is still somewhat holding up. If the creatures can reproduce asexually - well - add a possible 'virgin birth' to the check list.
I wrote that as a joke!

real cedar
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I'm curious to see what the Eggs on the ceilings had in them.
It would make sense if a female gets infected, turns into female shooters, if males get infected ( on drugs = the titans, as we call them / not on drugs = normal sleepers).

austere depot
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That is a good point..! The drugs as a factor!

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If that turns out to be correct, then that would make some rooms literal crack houses..
Given a large presance of brutes (titans)

real cedar
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Another option would be if you had taken the drug before.
So let's say deeper in R2, where all the miners were. They were given the drug, did their jobs, main effects wear off, but residual chemicals still linger in the body.
Infection hits, then if you had those chemicals, would turn you in a Titan.

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Almost like reactivating the drug + random mutations (so like increase in size, muscle mass, etc )

austere depot
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The I2-LP (not sure if I wrote that correctly) syringe is listed to have side-effects of 'random severity' within the logs.
I would deem it a possibility!

real cedar
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It would explain why some of them are invisible. As opposed to evolving due to a need to overcome a certain obstacle.

lilac island
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Does anyone know about the second log in R3A1 already?

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Because it drops some pretty hard information.

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Including a general timeframe for the game's setting, an idea at how far Santonian reaches, and a possible implication that they themselves might be the Warden.

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Although, the last one is speculation.

real cedar
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I read bout that one, yes. To me it sounds like someone was leaking intel from the inside and the radio station was broadcasting against Santonian, so they were considering to put it out of comission

lilac island
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I think that implies that Santonian has a nigh governmental amount of power, the way in which the audio log talks about "them" wanting to shut it down, it's really reminiscent of some weird conspiracy theorist type stuff you might hear today about area 51 or something.

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If they have that kind of power, they might be the Warden themselves.

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Or at least, some kind of MAJOR direct connection, likely some sort of business connection from prior to the events of GTFO

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Which I'm sure it's quite a no brainer that the Warden have some connection to Santonian, since we're being sent into Santonian facilities, but I think that they might have a deeper connection.

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There's also I think some minor connection to be inferred between the way the radio host talks about mushrooms, and some of the plant life in the labs, since a lot of it seems to kind of be fungal-like in the way they've seemed to grow, but I think that's most likely looking way too far into it

real cedar
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When I heard the mushroom part..kept in the dark...feeding. Nice reference.

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it depends how much tinfoil you are willing to use on this one I think:
That last line..."if you want this broadcast to stop, we will need to shake hands".

What would they want, this KDS group ?
They have on-site presence, so obviously they must be the security staff there. What else is this about apart from money ? Also seems to me that all this Security has simply...vanished ? no weapons nowhere, no armory/armor anywhere, no security staff bodies.

lilac island
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Perhaps they didn't agree to the handshake?

real cedar
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I think KDS planted the informant inside. Then they did the broadcast and masked it as a 3rd party. Then boom, "we can take care of your problem if we shake hands" .
I think so too, I think they never did shake hands.

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Possible that KDS pulled out of the complex before things went crazy ?

lilac island
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Maybe, though looking at the log... KDS might be some sort of initiative, order, or action, performable by that group, rather than a group in itself.

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I think until we get more context, KDS can be read in multiple different ways.

real cedar
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Reading that again, I can see your point.

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I read it more into: Our company can offer both on site security as well as media coverage of your brand, as a complete solution.

lilac island
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It could well be that, I think it's equally capable of being what's being said, I think we'll just have to wait until we get more context.

dull orchid
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what does nframe means

lilac island
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nFrame would be Neural Frame

dull orchid
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oh

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what aer the current guess on why the wardens wants to do a neural frame

lilac island
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No clue, but I would guess that having a neurally imprinted Neonate is what's required to be compatible with the nFrame. I'm assuming it's using the brains of the Neonates essentially for computing power.

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Neural imprint is likely to curate the brain to work in a way that's compatible with the nFrame, or something along those lines.

real cedar
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Just putting some more info out here: the IIx drugs that boost muscle strength refer specifically to the IIx muscle group: more information here: https://www.issaonline.com/blog/index.cfm/2018/type-iia-muscle-fibers-training-for-explosiveness

The other bit I found was on the second syringe, the Pharmacon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacon

It is a broader term for Drug. However, pharmacons usually have more than just an active and inactive component. (usually an endogenous substance, be it enzyme, DNA or hormone)

So...basically, I think the miners were given IIx drugs for the muscle strenght and The I2-LP injection had some sort of DNA or hormones in it. Now...putting DNA in an organism is generally a bad idea, particularly more so if that DNA is part of a very aggressive pathogen.

A pharmacon or pharmakon (from Greek: (ฯ†ฮฌฯฮผฮฑฮบฮฟฮฝ), adapted from pharmacos) is a biologically active substance. It is used more broadly than the term drug because it includes endogenous substances, and biologically active substances which are not used as drugs. Typically the w...

plucky bloom
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Can someone update me on lore from R1-R2?

regal pawn
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^ then R2 was all about unlocking other parts of the facility to get this "baby" that is very important and the entire base of R3

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The ID's that we got in R1B1 were most likely to unlock other parts of the facility, or the lab.
The Partial Decoders in R1C2 were probably for R2D2 and R2E1, since the information for the expeditions was encrypted (it says the warden had a lockdown on them, but I feel that was just a placeholder for a reason to not have players be able to go there yet). We then go to R2E1 to get this "Baby" or "Vessel" and then here we are, in the lab in R3.

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The baby probably has something to do with a vaccine or anti-sleeper "cure"

lilac island
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I'm doubtful of that in particular due to the things in R3

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we resuscitate the neonate, then depressurize its HSU, then acquire DNA samples to have it "neurally imprinted", and then secure it to a neural frame

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if it were for a vaccine, we would pretty simply retrieve the neonate to be brought to the surface for testing

dull orchid
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hmmm so the neonate was frozne from r2?

hearty horizon
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What if they use the neurally imprinted neonate to find a way to control sleepers?

dull orchid
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are rooms numbers random?

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like does it have anythign to do with the lore

teal turtle
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It would seem so, R2B1 objective was to open the door to 192 and extract ( the 9 scan mission ), R2D2 was set in 192, right after a similiar red ringed door

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although the entry layout was different

lilac island
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Just a thought, what if the warden is trying to inplant himself into the Neonate? Hence the neural imprinting? Just a thought.

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the warden aren't a him

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they're a group

real cedar
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If it is the same injection that we are subjected to as prisoners, and then the cortex interface gets established...it may be that The Warden are trying to control the baby

lilac island
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the prisoners don't know what it is but it has been stated by ten chambers as being a group outside of the game. yes i guess that means that technically within the game the prisoners don't know, but we as players know that they're a group as the devs have stated it as such

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You know what my theory is? That they clone the prisoners bodies. It's a complete waste to dispose of prisoners who are actually good/useful and have expirencece surviving down there. Hence the "Neuro interface lost" screen when a prisoner dies

real cedar
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@lilac island Can you please provide a source for that ?
I know the devs refer to the warden as They...but that doesn't make them a group. They might as well be using the term to make it as confusing as they can for us.

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I think Cloning is not a bad take. My take is that...the body itself is expendable. But the mind that gets injected (let's say, ours) still retains the experience. so that next time you go in, you have that previous knowledge...much like...EvE online.

tall anchor
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itโ€™s not been stated that the warden is a group

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theyโ€™ve literally always referred to the warden as a they, which could mean anything from one person, to a group, to an ai

frail pollen
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What tinted said.

plucky bloom
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So to find lore in the game u just check the logs in terminals for ir?

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It

dull orchid
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so the||mother|| has 4 arms, give ||birth to babies|| its like the experiements were made from|| pregnants humans|| w dna slicing ??

real cedar
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Warden, the googledocs you have, does that have all the logs from R2 and R3 ?

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@lilac island

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Thanks, I'll go through them again and see what else I can find.
I think the drug information was quite cool.

tall anchor
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theyโ€™re also on the wiki afaik

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or will be very soon

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From what weโ€™ve talked about; it was more of โ€œletโ€™s not update the wiki with d1 stuff day one, especially considering the majority of the wiki staff are bug huntersโ€

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however, they will be updated soonish, itโ€™s more on โ€œwell, itโ€™s been a few days so letโ€™s add b level content

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However, if you want to update the wiki, go ahead

solar nova
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It seems like zones repeat?

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R3C1's zones: 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
R1B2's zones: 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
Overlapping zones: 16 17 18 19 20

lilac island
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the important thing is the depth

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just cause they have the same zone number doesnt mean they are connected

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Can soneone give me an explanation of why we have a baby. What happened in e 1 and what have i missed as someone who didnt get to beat r2

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pretty much nothing

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you didnt miss anything than a rigged lvl and some very good others

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Story wise

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Where are we at

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Its killing me that i couldnt finish either rundowm

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probably new mexico

charred vault
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Baby was attached to a neural frame, which stopped an alarm in D1, which I guess the Warden wanted.

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||also killing a large biomass in a boss fight||

lilac island
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Ah so is that biomass

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The hidden enemy type

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I didnt get to see

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What in fuck did it do

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I wish i could have played it

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Next rundown it'll give birth to scouts

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HMMM

charred vault
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||shadow babies||

sand lance
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GTFO Lore in 5 lines:

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You are a death row prisoner tasked with entering a monster infected facility in exchange for your freedom

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The Warden wants you to go on a fetch quest, then Get The Fuck Out, hence the name of the game

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(Let me think of what the other three lines are)

dry owl
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I doubt we would get freedom it is also not like that we try to escape either^^ Also Bishop seems to have something to do with Santonian

sand lance
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If we're not fighting for freedom, why are we fighting at all

lilac island
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It would seem that were dropping down on HSU pods

sand lance
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There's literally no incentive to go into the pit

dry owl
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We dont even know the objective of the Warden either

lilac island
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Were fighting cause the Warden held us captive

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and he's sending us down to do shit for him

sand lance
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I still don't understand exactly what the monsters are

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I assume they are a collective

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A single mind, where each monster is like a hand or a foot

lilac island
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Yet we don't know why were doing what he wants all we know is that we need to do them

sand lance
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Mostly because the trailers seem to imply it

dry owl
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I dont think they are a collective like the Zerg. Cause just killing one would trigger them all.

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I dont think they are man-made. There is also a huge emphasis on Iridium. If you look at those research consoles. It seems like organisms down there evolved in using it. Plants were found with traces of Iridium in them. I think the devs want to evolve their story around this element. Artefacts were also found containing Iridium. Sure could be just a weird stone formation labeled as artefact.

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Yeah that is I think the reason they started this massiv mining operation in the first place. But no mining operation would lead to laboratories to investigate organisms of Ir in such a scope. Also Iridium comes in combination with the other platinum group elements like Rhodium. That is why those are so expensive in the first place, cause it is hard to divide them. I think there is something else. There are known organic molecules with Ir in their structures (pretty sure they are toxic though like most metal-organic molecules), so it is not far fetched that the devs maybe took that and evolved the organisms (plants, sleepers) around Iridium.

spring cypress
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I mean the test logs keep saying about how organic matter reacts to something... and I think one said about sulfur and a lot of iridium.
Personally I start to think the company is if actual is one attempted to grow metal or have something organic able to produce a resource cheaply and it somehow got to this.
But than again it can be anything

stone vine
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I think it was human testing I have a picture of something really weird in a test tube hold on a second

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doesnt that look like the stomach of a sleeper

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(striker)

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This picture makes me think they saw some kind of capability in the symptoms of the fungi and started human testing in order to create something

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And once they did, all they had to do was use syringes as ways of creating new types of sleepers

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there appears to be a lot of trial and error going on, so i dont think they just "found the sleepers"

scarlet juniper
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Would like to hear all the audio logs, found two so far

stone vine
jade linden
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Orpez mosin

scarlet juniper
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You guys are wonderful ๐Ÿ™‚ !

lilac island
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wait thats not lore related

manic sparrow
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oh hey, someone beat me to it

devout geyser
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i gotchu

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also thereโ€™s still a log missing ๐Ÿ˜ญ i can reveal it tmrw

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Transcript: || Youโ€™re listening to State of Truth AM. If you are new, listener, let me say: Welcome to the Enlightenment. But let me take a moment here to set things up for you. Now, we know, you know, that they areโ€ฆ hiding things from us, right? The press, the mainstream media. Theyโ€™re all apart of- apart of something big- you know? A bigger picture. The lies run deep, and if youโ€™re not listening to State of Truth youโ€™re only hearing their side of the story, got it? Youโ€™re being spoon-fed lies and deceit and they will tell you whatever is needed to pacify you, to keep you in the dark. Mushrooms, right? Keep them in the dark and feed them bullshit. Well, not today. Today, you woke up, friend. We broadcast the truth at State of Truth. And if they shut us down, weโ€™ll move and start again. And they are trying to stop us, rest assured of that. There is a concerted effort to keep the truth from you, a global conspiracy designed to keep you oppressed and hold back the truth. Well we donโ€™t play that game at State of Truth. Weโ€™re going to be taking calls here in a minute and the lines are open to anyone. Today I want to hear from you, if you have information about Dreyfus industries. Now these guys, they have their hand in everything, right? That microwave youโ€™re using to make popcorn? Was made by Dreyfus. How โ€˜bout that bowl you put in the microwave, where was it made? China? You know who works with the Chinese Government? Dreyfus industries. How โ€˜bout the popcorn itself? Take a look at the packaging, what does it say? Does it say Agra-global food supplies? If so, you know who that is, right? Dreyfus industries, thatโ€™s right. Theyโ€™re in everything. And right now, theyโ€™re in you. Whether you like it, or not. Okay, so the lines are open, and I am waiting for your calls. The resistance starts today, people.||

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i am forbidden

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pls dont, they're endangered CBWearyy

tall anchor
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charger best enemy

devout geyser
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^^^^

tall anchor
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Also, Iโ€™d love to actually have to tune into a fake state of truth am episode

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like, whip out a radio, ect

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nice

cosmic python
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I dont think they are man-made. There is also a huge emphasis on Iridium. If you look at those research consoles. It seems like organisms down there evolved in using it. Plants were found with traces of Iridium in them. I think the devs want to evolve their story around this element. Artefacts were also found containing Iridium. Sure could be just a weird stone formation labeled as artefact.
@dry owl Do you mean the stone formations that were mentioned? They are also described as a biomass so maybe this refers to the throbbing and glowing mass in the ceiling in one of the r1c levels (i think) were we first encountered the black chargers. I don't think they are entirely man made because of this. They probably encountered these biomasses after digging too deep and the infection started to spread. Then they probably started building the labs to test the infection and fucked up big time

stone vine
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Dreyfus, thats the company that makes the baby stuff right

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the HSU, the thing in A1

tall anchor
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they make your milk too

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but yes, literally 80% of the complex probably

stone vine
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ok so Dreyfus is our main company

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it seems Nyxos creates a ton of stuff a long side them and is a big supplier for them

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lmao\

dense saffron
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It's possible all the other companies are just shell companies or also owned by dreyfus

stone vine
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they probs are

real pewter
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so

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we're gonna have another mission that's not in the rundown

cosmic python
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Some companies have been labeled as untrustworthy tho

stone vine
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ooh yay

real pewter
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RESISTANT

stone vine
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yeah McCallister

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was a big one they said in the R2 email

dense saffron
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Interesting tidbit idk if anyone else has noticed, in D1, in the room with the two alarm doors that can be keycards spawns, there's a plant in one of the glass containment things

If you look at the plant, there's small, fleshy, growths coming out of the soil

stone vine
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yeah that was me

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i think its McCallister

real pewter
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i saw things shining all the times

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like the weird line in C1

stone vine
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where in C1?

dense saffron
stone vine
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oooh yeah me too

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what is that stuff it was dripping from the ceiling

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looked like infectious fog but like liquid

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oh that stuff is in A1 aswell

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me and a bud saw it dripping out of some weird thing on the wall

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or some weird plant maybe

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also yeah the thing in C1

cosmic python
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it's weird that this plant also grows on solid ground. It's like some really hairy green mold

solar nova
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I'm pretty sure they're cobwebs

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The C1 things anyway

stiff island
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So just tested out the DMR

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Awesome for nailing the bastards with headshots

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Not a lot of ammo though.

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Also I keep examining the bodies of the sleepers, and I'm almost 100% certain there are eggs inside of the bodies.

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Because if you look closely, you'll see what looks like cysts lined inside the tissue.

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Also some, but not all sleepers can survive without a head like a cockroach.

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I wonder why?

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It kinda leads me to speculate whether or not the host body is actually "alive"

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Because if you look at it, the head is completely destroyed/malformed to the point where a brain probably wouldn't survive.

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And the body itself is repurposed.

tall anchor
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They are eggs

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confirmed by 10cc on twitter

stiff island
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O:

stone vine
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oooh o-o

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thats unsettlinh

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unsettling

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also heya pickles

stiff island
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So what, the body is just repurposed to be a mobile womb for the parasites?

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YUCK

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And hey man. ๐Ÿ˜›

stone vine
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๐Ÿ™‚

stark sedge
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Hey does anyone know what the roar you hear in C1 into z17 is

stone vine
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yeah im pretty sure all body parts are repurposed

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no way man, chargers dont scream o-o

stark sedge
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no like it lasted 30 secs and was spin chilling

stone vine
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yes

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it was something else

stiff island
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Yo, remember the sounds we heard? @stone vine

stark sedge
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nothing else makes that noise

stone vine
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in A1?

stiff island
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Yeah

stone vine
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yeah idk what that was either

tall anchor
stone vine
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dude when i heard the noise in C1 that was scary as fuck

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something really weird made that noise, and i wonder why

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did it get scared when we opened the door

stark sedge
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ya

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i know

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never heard it

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could be what made the hole you go down

stiff island
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I gotta know what the parasite is in origin, and if it's actually fungal or some weird byproduct of whatever they've been working on in the complex

stone vine
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o-o there are so many of those holes

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its fungal

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but its a very smart somehow...

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it repurposes human hosts to its own needs

stiff island
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Oh btw, I've been working on dodging tongues and projectiles. ๐Ÿ˜›

stone vine
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๐Ÿ˜„ thats good man we should run A1 again soon

stiff island
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I've been going in solo to purposely aggro rooms just to figure out how to best fight/avoid stuff

stone vine
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learn scouts too, that way we can go through rooms together no problem

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also i think we can agree this fungal parasite is a hive mind

stiff island
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I think so too

stone vine
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its like a bee hive

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they have specific roles and seem to want to protect one key specimen

stiff island
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ACTUALLY HANG ON

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this reminds me of something

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one sec

stone vine
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ooh something interesting

stiff island
stone vine
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lemme read that rq

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omg wait

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thats awefully similar to this

stiff island
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I'm also gonna assume the infection that sleepers have spreads pretty quick.

stone vine
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yeah by the looks of it

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i think it takes control of the host within hours

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and once you have it, you cant stop it

stiff island
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Yeeeeeah you're pretty screwed. xD

stone vine
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i find it really weird how we find so many dead bodies though

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wouldnt they just become sleepers, or like o-o

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were they murdered

stiff island
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I actually saw some corpses that looked like they were in mid-transformation.

stone vine
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yeah me too

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even getting into a fetal position

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it seems that the way they "sleep" is for a reason

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there is a set way they need to sleep

stiff island
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I guess it's for the eggs?

stone vine
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not sure but look

stiff island
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Also why do some of the sleepers look like they have their hands up in prayer?

stone vine
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see how they just involuntarily get into that position

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yeah wtf

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they do, thats really weird...

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also all the ones that are like in the beggining of transforming all have smashed body parts

stiff island
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Yeah, maybe they were eaten?

stone vine
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maybe, but if thats not the case then i dont know what takes thier limbs o-o

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their**

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also like all the dead ones dont actually transform, so maybe the host actually still is alive

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and their organs have shifted places

stiff island
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I'd hope not lol, that would suck.

stone vine
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the humans would probs be unconscious( i hope)

cosmic python
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Maybe they just rot away because it's unnecessary and takes potential "brain" usage away? I also think that the brain and intestines get somehow transported because like you said they survive without a head and the big ones can be literal walking legs

stone vine
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yeah they all get repurposed, but where would the brain go then, or maybe its just not vital anymore

stiff island
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Whatever the infection really is, it can just use the body as a puppet.

stone vine
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yes exactly

cosmic python
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I think the brain is just replaced and their entire body acts like it

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they seem really "simple"

stone vine
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well the sleepers do(the little ones)

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what about scouts, or mothers or chargers

stiff island
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Mothers are def an extreme stage of infection.

cosmic python
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Maybe they evolve over time

stone vine
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or a different branch of infection

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infections have different branches of that same infection

fervent iris
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well whats certain is that

stone vine
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covid for example

stiff island
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True

fervent iris
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they

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reproduce

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with

stone vine
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covid 19 is different than other types of covid

fervent iris
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premarital

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birth

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eugh

stone vine
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lmao hackett

cosmic python
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I think it's just responsive to the gender. If you look closely the shooters are female and the tongues are male

stone vine
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yeah it is gender

stiff island
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But there are still eggs inside the body

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of each gender

cosmic python
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so that "big belly" could also be an over mutated ball sack

fervent iris
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so mother that gib birth to boi is striker

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but gorl is shuter

stone vine
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lmao ball sack ahahahah

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well also female and male have different chromosones

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could effect chromosones

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or the way each body is built

stiff island
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I think the genitals get shifted or repurposed somehow, and the whole body just becomes a big womb for the parasites.

fervent iris
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^

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not aprasite

stone vine
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its a fungal parasite

fervent iris
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more like ophiocordyceps

cosmic python
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But really now, what exactly are they shooting? And how the fuck do they become shadows?

stone vine
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it is a pathogenic fungi

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meaning it attacks from the outside and eats the inside tissue

fervent iris
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thats what ophiocordyceps are

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also

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its not a standard ophiocordyceps

stiff island
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Someone in here said the devs confirmed there are eggs in the bodies

fervent iris
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it literally kills the host then transforms each cell

stone vine
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wouldnt say "kill"

fervent iris
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yeah its true @stiff island

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well

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knock host unconscious

stone vine
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mmhmm

cosmic python
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I'm pretty sure the conscious human is gone

fervent iris
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but it does that in the later stages of infection

stone vine
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yep no more human

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just the fungi โค๏ธ

fervent iris
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earlier stages it slowly deforms cells

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rather than growing in the body

stiff island
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Imagine what it's like to slowly lose yourself that way though.

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gag

stone vine
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yeah it starts on the outside before slowly shifting and eating through internal organs and tissue

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lovely

fervent iris
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something on those lines

stone vine
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probs feels great

fervent iris
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spicy air

stone vine
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like a nice internal massgae

fervent iris
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no

stone vine
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massage

fervent iris
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no

stone vine
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yes

fervent iris
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no

stone vine
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yes

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yes

stiff island
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Everyone gets to become a mommy

cosmic python
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The screaming blobs could have been human too (once)

stone vine
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well hmmm

fervent iris
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depends

stone vine
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the question is

fervent iris
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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wait a minute

stone vine
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do babys hatch out of them ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

fervent iris
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wait

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a

stone vine
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

fervent iris
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minute

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in the research terminals they check for signs of radiation

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what if

stone vine
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mhhmmm yes yes

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o-o o-o o-o

stiff island
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I DO NOT wanna picture sleepers reproducing

stone vine
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LMAO SAME

fervent iris
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you already see them do it tho

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so

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since they down here small doses of radiation transforms some strains of mutation and grossly mutates them

stone vine
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the moms dont count

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they are single moms

cosmic python
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I think the big shooters are hot tbh

stone vine
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nuh uh scouts are hotter

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tentacle hentai

cosmic python
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Ok agree on that

fervent iris
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and eventually it mutates them into something not humanoid

stiff island
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What are the feelers that come out of a scout? Are those the parasites too?

cosmic python
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Yeah but it's still controlled mutation

stone vine
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the tentacles o-o, what could a human body have that can be made into fucking tentacles???

stiff island
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Intestines?

stone vine
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ew

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o-o thats not a good thought

fervent iris
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or the ophiocordyceps infected a different host and thus resulted in an inhuman mutation

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i.e a plant

stone vine
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yes it could be inhuman mutation u right u right

fervent iris
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not plant ๐Ÿƒ

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but a plant

cosmic python
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If you think about it, the big ones probably were the normal ones before. So they probably absorb something to produce mass

fervent iris
#

true

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also

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the green moss in the lab environment

stone vine
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yes yes

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green moss love smoking it

fervent iris
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the tumours growths in the plant showcases in there

stiff island
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ayy

fervent iris
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explain spitters

stone vine
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ohhh yeahh

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well hold on let me get u my art

fervent iris
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probably some overgrowing mold got infected on a cellular level

stone vine
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i have a nice diagram

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very nice

fervent iris
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then proceeded to grow into a multicellular organism like a spitter

stone vine
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art ๐Ÿ™‚

fervent iris
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also expains the green shit thats around spitters

stone vine
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ik ik its rlly good

stiff island
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beautiful

stone vine
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i think thats a mushroom

cosmic python
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yeah that makes more sense than humans becoming spitters.

fervent iris
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god

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what if

stone vine
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?? suspense

fervent iris
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the drastic changes it can do to vegetation

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to humans

stone vine
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WAIT

fervent iris
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with the radiation

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no

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too much

stone vine
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WAIT

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dude

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hold on a second

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remember the plants, maybe the spitter is a plant

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like an infected plant

fervent iris
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thats literally what i just said lmao

cosmic python
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In the future we will se plant-flesh hybrids on legs

stone vine
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oh my bad i read what u said the wrong way round

stiff island
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The infection, at least I think, knows what it's doing. Think about everything set in place from the way the sleepers function in a hivemind manner - the sacks that line walls and ceilings that explode upon contact with a non-infected entity, etc.

stone vine
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yeah its intellegent

fervent iris
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we gone see a human be a tentacle with tumours legs running around and when you hit it the tumours blowup to reveal smaller tongues

stiff island
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nope

stone vine
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o-o pls no

cosmic python
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This really reminds me of dead space

stiff island
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Kinda yeah

stone vine
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this thing

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explain that shit

cosmic python
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But I like the fungi much more

stiff island
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that's spoopy

stone vine
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like i think that made the scream

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cuz that thing is basically a charger

fervent iris
#

yeah ophiocordyceps knows how to transform an organism and make it intelligent

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in its own way

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plus this one is much more advanced

stone vine
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yeah it obv isnt in the american education system

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school doesnt teach shit here

stiff island
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In our case, it repurposes our flesh.

fervent iris
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and can change it drastically

stone vine
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mhhm

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make it do things in a little role devised community

fervent iris
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it even amalgamates with others of its kind

cosmic python
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Despite this being completely horrific and disgusting to some degree, it's fascinating that things like that exist @fervent iris and I am glad that this shit doesn't attack humans (for now)

stone vine
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quit using big words

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speak englisj

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english

fervent iris
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yeah

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spoopy

stone vine
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lmao

fervent iris
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its okay thpugh

stiff island
#

So bottom line, are sleepers "alive" in a conventional sense?

stone vine
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cant wait for GTFO irl

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whos coming with me

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come on guys its 2020 like we can expect it ๐Ÿ™‚

cosmic python
#

Wait can you show instances of ophiocordyceps amalgamation? Why would it do that?

fervent iris
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cause if this exists in real life its probably just a kilometre under the ground in the Yucatan peninsula though so we good ๐Ÿ‘Œ

cosmic python
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I think they are alive, but very primitive and simply do what they are set to do for the swarm

stiff island
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As long as no crazy companies are like "yeah let's dig here"

fervent iris
#

well

stone vine
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ohhh btw there was a mining expedition there in 2016 and there isnt much coverage but they found some weird shit

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like irl ๐Ÿ™‚

fervent iris
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look at enemy design art

stiff island
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greeeeeeeeeeeeat

stone vine
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mmmhmm mhhm cant wait

fervent iris
#

clearly two sleepers fused together

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and the mother

cosmic python
#

This reminds me of that gigantic underground fungus underneath the ground somewhere in america

fervent iris
#

you can see two different spines

stone vine
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yeah you can

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one for the nest

fervent iris
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and several arms

stone vine
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one for the wings

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and yeah many arms o-o

fervent iris
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it is entirely possible that it grew them on its own

stiff island
#

So like, is the biomass just a big nest? Or a fusion of many bodies to incubate a large number of eggs?

fervent iris
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and just copied body parts

stone vine
fervent iris
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which it can do

stone vine
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like yeah that thing looks like a nice plate of ribs

cosmic python
#

The biomass was black and didn't react to shots, so I think it's really for a huge number of eggs and therefore goes 100% defense

stone vine
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wonder what it tastes like

fervent iris
#

no

stone vine
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ohh yeah the biomass is hot

stiff island
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rotten meat probs

cosmic python
#

I mean the chargers had black skin too and were tanky

stone vine
#

oh yeah and the biomass moves yay

cosmic python
#

That's probably some sort of crust extension

stiff island
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Is the black color just extremely necrotized flesh?

fervent iris
#

unlikely

stone vine
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Its like bone plated armor o-o

fervent iris
#

its almost a molasses

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thats not flesh

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thats shit

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just

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tacobell diarrhea

stone vine
stiff island
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Maybe it chemically induces something to seep out of the skin and hardens

stone vine
#

i love that picture

fervent iris
#

OMG

stone vine
#

they both act the same way

cosmic python
#

Yeah it's naruto running towards the viewer

fervent iris
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thats a human in extremely early stages of infection

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somehow alive

stiff island
#

Probably wants you to kill it

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With what humanity is left in there

fervent iris
#

probably before going unconscious and coming back as a full striker

cosmic python
#

Ok makes sense that way

stone vine
#

but also i wonder if the chargers are strong because they are "guards"

fervent iris
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as those horns could just be teeth growing in from the neck moving up to the head to be in a vertical placement

stone vine
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they protect the biomass

fervent iris
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then shorten in size and become a mouth

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as you can see the person is expelling their old teeth and intestines

cosmic python
#

Yeah that's why we first saw them when we encountered the biomass

stiff island
fervent iris
#

and i think the intestines stay attached to the body only to fall down to the stomach and reattach

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is that concept art

#

wait

stiff island
#

yeah

fervent iris
#

holdon

cosmic python
#

Oof

stone vine
#

WAIT GUYS

#

The thing at the end of the R3 gameplay trailer

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that isnt the mother

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thats the thing on the card

fervent iris
#

i believe its the monster that picks you up and chokes you from the ROG mastertalk

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no its the mother

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it has to be the appearance is strikingly similar

cosmic python
#

I also think it's the mother because you can somewhat see it's features

fervent iris
#

supposed to have a large mouth for the tongue

stone vine
#

no way thats the mother

fervent iris
#

circular shaped at that

stone vine
#

dude look at it

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the mothers arent that big

cosmic python
#

It's somewhat sideways

fervent iris
#

bumps around its body as thats present in the rog clip

stone vine
#

there isnt those horns coming out of it either

fervent iris
#

and a similar stomach

stone vine
#

wait

#

theres three parts to this rundown o-o

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woahhhh

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thats so cool nope silly me haha

stiff island
#

Any speculation as to why some sleepers, when in an upright position, have their hands together as if praying?

stone vine
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they are praying cuz permarital birth

fervent iris
#

its the same thing with the dead corpses

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covering their face to keep out the light so they can sleep

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eventually undergoing transformation when they go to sleep

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then wake up doing the same as sleepers are light-sensitive

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have a "face"

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and baby sleepers that grow eventually do the same

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probably as instinct

stiff island
#

Heh, if you look at what's left of the face on a sleeper, it does look like a resting expression.

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Eyes closed.

fervent iris
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they not praying

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they just trynna slep

stiff island
#

That also makes sense.

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I'm super curious as to what else the infection can do to the body.

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Or if we'll ever end up fighting just a massive conglomeration of bodies.

stone vine
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so uh the mom at the end of D1 is very large

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anyone know why o-o

stiff island
fervent iris
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its a birther tank

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basically a stronk birther

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Mom stop doing Drugs!

stone vine
#

yeah i havent beaten D1 yet so i was confused

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ive been asleep for like the past 3 days ahaha

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except for early in the morning

stiff island
#

I'd assume actual military personnel were in the complex? Makes you wonder how if they failed, how would anyone else stop a mass outbreak?

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Just nuke it?

stone vine
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nah

fervent iris
#

no dont

#

the radiation would make it worse

stone vine
#

no nuking

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we arent trying to stop the infection i dont think

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I think Warden is trying to uncover it

fervent iris
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not uncover but more like work to completing the goal of santonian

stone vine
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yeah or thta

#

that

#

warden is just a silly goose lmao

stiff island
#

What happens to the prisoners/complex once the main task is complete?

stone vine
#

they go back u[

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up

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i think

stiff island
#

I mean like

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Once Warden gets what he/she wants.

fervent iris
#

the overarching goal

stone vine
#

then we overthrow the government โค๏ธ

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with sleeper army

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the revolution begins

fervent iris
#

well santonian was gonna take 50 years to finish all construction and mining then turn it into a permanent facility related to the sleepers

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cause they seemed like it was gonna take super long before they get their job done

stone vine
#

yehh

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that place is biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig

fervent iris
#

and for the warden to try to work towards that goal with small teams of 4 untrained personnel

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just to do as much uncovering and research as possible

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along side the sleeper threat

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i'd say it wont be for a century and a half till were done

stiff island
#

I don't think we (the prisoners) would be allowed to live in the long run.

#

We're infected, no?

fervent iris
#

ye

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at least the warden is smart enough to keep surviving personnel

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as with each time they live the more experienced they get

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so it can eventually deploy the most skilled and capable for the most important and difficult jobs

stiff island
#

I'd imagine we're not allowed to come in contact with non-infected people.

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Like we're confined.

cosmic python
#

Or if we'll ever end up fighting just a massive conglomeration of bodies.
@stiff island I think this won't happen because so far the infection is intelligent and gives a clear purpose to everything. Why would a mass of bodies be useful? It's just like the hands, they get mutated away because they are useless. As much as I would love gunning down a mass of sleepers, I don't look forward to it.

stiff island
#

True.

fervent iris
#

i like how the warden is like

stone vine
#

yeah no large body counts allowed

#

hoes arent allowed in the complex

fervent iris
#

"you committed a crime"

stone vine
#

Warden probs hates santonian

#

lets be honest

fervent iris
#

"you've been naughty now get in the w a t e r b o x"

stone vine
#

lmao

#

do we even get fed

stiff island
#

stupid stinky prisoner

stone vine
#

i dont think he even lets us out of the HSU

cosmic python
#

At least there wouldn't just be a blob. The space is confined and sunlight is a problem. A possible thing that could happen would be giants that are made to siege cities etc at night when the infection goes wild.

stone vine
#

hes just like, haha silly prisoner get in your cage

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i think giants are sleepers who took the IIX injection

stiff island
#

I just hope the infection didn't get out of the complex

stone vine
#

even if it did there would be no way out of the crater itself

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they would have to pull some world war Z zombie shit

cosmic python
#

I don't think it's outside because we could just fly over the infected areas and desinfection pack them away during the day

stiff island
#

Well, the infected are fast and like to swarm.

#

But yeah, they don't like direct light.

cosmic python
#

The end goal would probably be to completely take over the underground of the earths crust

stiff island
#

Are we just glorified pest control? xD

jolly plinth
#

we are more like glorified slaves

stiff island
#

that too

cosmic python
#

There could be a possibility for the infection to survive above. By using the dense fog to absorb the sunlight

stiff island
#

Maybe it's just a game mechanic regarding the number of infected we fight off, but somehow I'd imagine we slowly reclaim parts of the complex.

cosmic python
#

Haha 4 guys against a whole army of monsters

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badass

stiff island
#

Also if we're infected, how are we keeping that under control?

#

Inhibitors?

fervent iris
#

HSU's

stiff island
#

Stasis probably slows it down, yeah.

cosmic python
#

Maybe we don't reach the critical level and therefore survive with a dose of desinfection

stiff island
#

Kinda like being a carrier, similar to other viruses.

stone vine
#

yeah the HSU are the only thing keeping us alive im pretty sure

fervent iris
#

it doesnt slow it down either

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stops it completely

stone vine
#

mhm

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which is why I think the baby isnt infected

#

it was the only one left in an HSU

stiff island
#

I have a hunch that we may eventually get to see areas that are more contaminated.

#

Not just the fog, but biomass.

tall anchor
#

Jabu jabuโ€™s belly mission when

stiff island
#

Squishy funtime land

cosmic python
#

I would love that. The more biomass the better

stone vine
#

yes

#

hopefully we get more missions soon

stiff island
#

It'd be cool and kinda spooky to see "other" prisoners that failed.

#

Like, discovering their bodies.

#

Or maybe even audio logs.

stone vine
#

yeah i really hope they add that

#

thatd be suuper cool

pulsar seal
#

anyone got any ideas as to what the player evaluations are?

naive quest
#

is there any link or website where i can read up on whats going on i the rundown in terms of story/lore and pervious rundowns.

cursive plover
#

the wiki has a good amount

devout geyser
royal gull
#

And talking about the logs, I noticed that the numbers appearing next to the Name and Surnam in mails may be related to the importance of the personnal: Janson Davies is A001 and is always the receiver in important mails, like the flood in R2 logs, or the illegal radio in R3. And Andrew Clinton is B035 and seems to be in charge of the Complex creation and reports to Davies on a regular basis.

royal gull
#

And talking about the numbers, if we assume that the creation of the compex was made between august 2050 - considering the dates of R3D1 logs, and the complete log of R2 that states august 1st 20(50?). The construction of the complex ran 20 monts (R3D1) aproximatively and ended in March 2052. During the construction, an illegal radio started to emit from somewhere near the Complex on september 3rd 2050 (see log R3A1 and R3C1). And on the permanent auto_gen_status.log there is a date in international standard: 53/10/11: October 11th 2053. Does anyone else agree with that ?