#gtfo-lore

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timid lance
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boo

eternal talon
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That is.. LITERALLY.. just the ending to SCP:CB

delicate atlas
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that kind of reminds me of The Forest

charred tiger
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@eternal talon
I agree, hence why I stated what I said above in that the colonies are essentially just sentries and guards while the thing does what it does

eternal talon
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I don't know what some sort of hive mind would do buried under a crater for millions of years, let alone after. It must be very boring

charred tiger
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It would probably be angry

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very angry

lilac island
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No they’d be very sleepy and angry that people woke them up so they kill everything so they can have some nice sleepy times

charred tiger
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Wouldn't you be angry if you woke up from a nap to see some hairless monkeys poking you?

lilac island
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I mean I’d be surprised

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Itd be the first time that’s ever happened

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But maybe there’d be a bit of angry in there

opal perch
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wish i could say the same

tall anchor
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what game was it for

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oh that one?

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I’ve not watched it in a while

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and it’s possible it could be outdated info

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Maybe he means playable + shooter/striker

harsh spoke
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ooooo infection\

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so maybe we'll see some slightly more human looking enemies?

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Maybe we got it all wrong and the people aren't trying to what's in the facility IN but trying to keep what outside the facility OUT

marsh lagoon
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nah, more likely we'll find worse mutation I think

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at least if we are to take the picture into account

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what could it be?

fair lion
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more infected is a fact but it's not a counter argument

marsh lagoon
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it is not

timid lance
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Pimples

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It's pimples

hot burrow
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its a spider

marsh lagoon
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Sleeper type of pimples, @timid lance ? 😉

timid lance
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Ceiling pimples

stable urchin
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It's a patter clearly

opal perch
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things gonna drop on me and give me depression cuddles huh?

stable urchin
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That too, tho i can do that for ya

marsh lagoon
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either way. it's gonna be intresting to see what it if. if it's actually something in the roof, or if it's a huge enemy

wraith matrix
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It's probably gonna be a stationary large boss puzzle

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Likely the source or one of the sources of infection

analog nexus
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think maybe if it is a hivemind, instead of using pheremones like current hiveminds we know of, instead it uses sound?

tall anchor
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I know it’s coded like a hive mind but that says nothing

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considering it’s just an optimization thing

analog nexus
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people earlier were talking about the concept of it being a hivemind

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i know its extrememly improbable

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but i like hiveminds

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zerg ftw

eternal talon
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Spawn more overlords

bright wave
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Remember that snake thing from the reveal trailer

fervent iris
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you're right, unless you're bishop and tell me to "quit fuckin whinin"

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still deeply hurt from that

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lmao me as a character just humours out of the trauma

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alright im FFing you next time

hollow bough
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that is one of my favorite voice lines in the game I have heard so far

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lmfao

hot burrow
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ya I don't trust dauda that much

fervent iris
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he givin us all bad vibes

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like whats that weird shit he says

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at least i make jokes but since voicelines are bugged you dont hear them

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guys in the wiki it says when ronan summers voiced me he drew inspiration from Conor Mcgregor

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then why does Bishop sound like Conor and not me

wide talon
acoustic quest
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what im seeing ?

wide talon
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its on steam Rundown 2 has a release date!!

acoustic quest
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ah we already knew
gtfo had a small update showing the release cuntdown

wide talon
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jheez i haven't played the game in that long i never saw it

acoustic quest
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dont worry cutie

wide talon
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I feel like the discord should announce it

acoustic quest
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mmh well yeah

fervent iris
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also community locked expeditions

frail pollen
fervent iris
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also i was looking into an old audio blog and

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theres this thing called the snatcher that like "eats" the player or smth and the player can be in its mouth? idk im just pulling shit from an old voiceline

tall anchor
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they changed the name of one of the characters

fervent iris
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From north to me

shadow zenith
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What

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I've been summoned

tall anchor
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lol

shadow zenith
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You have 3 wishes

fair lion
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hl3

shadow zenith
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You have 4 wishes

tall anchor
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remove ash from r6s

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also make the gtfo devs’s work easier

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so we get more fun stuff

fair lion
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why would they need to hide that

solar nova
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I think they had both, but weren't hiding either.

fervent iris
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or atleast hiding the reasearch, disguising it as mining, idk what the public in this game knows

hot burrow
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113 fps

faint minnow
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Alright, so, new to the game here. What all do we know lorewise cuz it doesn't seem to be a lot

foggy bane
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Aliens, Zombies, Infection, Parasite, Fungus, or something else?

faint minnow
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Okay, so some evil thing is trying to kill us

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and ptentially the rest of humanity

fervent iris
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not rest of humanity

faint minnow
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Just us?

fervent iris
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they're well contained in the complex

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the warden wants us to carry out expeditions into the complex

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but the sleepers are straight vibing

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till we

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then they stop sleeping and are active

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they are naturally hostile to ppl

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so thats why they attack us

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we are prisoners forced down into the complex

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to carry out objectives for some greater purpose

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wither its exploration, figuring what turned the complex into a total shit show, or somthing else

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maybe to regain control of the complex

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who knows really

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since the game takes place in the chicxulub crater its speculated that the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs ~65 million years ago, is what brought the sleepers to earth

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ever since the complex was created atop the crater to research the sleepers and the minerals from the asteroid

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but something went wrong and the sleepers took over

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the sleepers are most likely a parasitic infection, but this is unconfirmed

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and infection from the complex may cause the parasite to take over the host, this is why its important to the warden to dispose of prisoners that are seriously infected, to leave them to turn into the sleepers, to "retire" them

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once the parasite takes over the host, mutation begin to occur, seemingly based on the hosts gender too

faint minnow
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oh?

fervent iris
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females once infected turn into basic shooters, and down the line other types of sleepers with female characteristics like the scout our big shooters

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same with males turning into basic strikers

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however, there are other enemies which do not seem of human origin (see e3 trailer), and there seems to be far too many enemies for how many prisoners succumb to the infection

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so there must be a way for them to reproduce, like the egg looking things you can see at the beginning of the documentary video

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the human-origin infected may also be complex personnel pre-shit hitting the fan

faint minnow
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Alright, alright

fervent iris
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and the "eggs" enemies drop when killed that bursts into a small puddle, to release spores to potentially infect others

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and other enemies that probably arrived once the asteroid landed

surreal swift
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see this is why we gotta keep the petroleum industry even if the world does go electric

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gotta kill it with fire

fervent iris
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^

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exactly

surreal swift
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2much unholiness down there

fervent iris
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also gotta kill me with fire

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bring up lore and ill go to town

faint minnow
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So exterminatus up in this bitch

surreal swift
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i feel like exterminatus would completely destroy the complex

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what im asking for is fire

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it should leave everything except

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flesh

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intact

fervent iris
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fuck it, nuke time

surreal swift
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:(

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but theres so much interesting stuff down there!!

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y not make a portable one so u can cook them on the spot

faint minnow
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That

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That could work

surreal swift
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🤔

hoary meteor
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Wait

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How is that not used more often and how have I not herd of it

midnight spoke
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They've been around for ages, they're used more for covert operations due to the nature of the weapon

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Taking one into a battlefield could lead it to be taken out by ranged projectiles

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But using it in covert ops to affect people without them knowing the source is highly useful

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They actually think one was used on politicians in Brazil at a point

fervent iris
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all i can think of is

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***P O R T A B L E *** ***M I C R O W A V E ***

midnight spoke
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The portable mmmmmmm

fair lion
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laughs in KF2

frail sand
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btw @fervent iris , pretty sure parasitic infections such as this one can't be airborne, (but correct if I'm wrong on this, bc as far as I can think off the top of my head, I can't think of airborne parasites), so like how it is in Alien, it probably houses the actual parasite, and they are capable of burrowing into defenseless hosts.
Also, the reason why I am certain it's a parasitic infection, like how you said it's most likely this kind of infection, is because of the characteristics of the infection, the environment it's in, and the way it seems to be transmitted

fair lion
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the prisoners are infected, wdym defenseless?

surreal swift
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"oh shit... im dEfenSElEeeSS" -woods getting his ass handed to him, 2020

stoic rock
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hehehehehehe

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Mini tonks

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KV2 time

fervent iris
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did a mod take down your petition?

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its gone now

frail sand
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You do realise I was talking about every other person in the facility that got infected?

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And besides, considering the weapons we get, we're lucky that they work as intended

hot burrow
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whats going on here

frail sand
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I honestly don't know anymore XD

lilac island
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I like the weapon design

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Seems like something made in a machine shop by a dude with a 3d printer and too much time on his hands

keen quest
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can you read this

remote wharf
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Yes

charred tiger
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to be honest

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the weapons are probably as cheap as military hardware can be considering you a prisoner with a 2.5% chance of actually living through the mission

stoic rock
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@frail sand your pfp, oh yes

frail sand
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Unrelated to lore but thank you 👍

stoic rock
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pochi

frail sand
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Also @lilac island @charred tiger , it’s repurposed mining equipment.
I can’t remember where it said it was this, but I am certain that this was stated somewhere.

stoic rock
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^

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think i did as well

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cant be bothered for the life of me to find it

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;/

frail sand
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Oof

round valley
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Really? I hadn't read that. They seem surprisingly effective for repurposed mining equipment. Though now I can't get the thought of bringing Dead Space's Plasma Cutter into the facility out of my head. 😮

fair lion
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Our guns are repurposed mining equipment?

remote wharf
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Gtfo lore

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No

hollow bough
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They could be metal and parts of mining equipment assembled into guns, but I think people were talking about the melee weapons to get the idea that they are repurposed mining equipment

charred tiger
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oh yea i could see the sledges being things used to break rocks, might explain why there is such an abundance of prisoners too

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though the firearms and such might just be from the cheapest bidder for "guard loadout"

scenic wagon
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they remind me of something Metro:2033 would use

lilac island
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I love the weapons in the game, they feel like forth rate equipment given just so we're slightly better then yeeting dead bodies into the facility

fair lion
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right

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and with that we kill thousands

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so what with military grade we'd be gordon freemen

lilac island
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So I got a question. Is it right to assume our characters are being cloned but somehow keeping memories each cloning via nightmares?

solar nova
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That's highly speculative, and far less likely than our characters just being the same 4 people.

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Just too convoluted to conclude cloning.

fair lion
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our characters have already been in the complex before the game started right

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being experienced you can kinda say that they survive through these missions, but the longer you stretch it the less plausible it is

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they should die soon

solar nova
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In 5-10 rundowns, I think it would be neat to change the cast and have this set canonically die

fair lion
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the question is how though

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get to a warden scan, deliver an objective, it goes up and you're left to fight against an infinite horde until you eventually die?
would help build the warden's personality without skipping deaths entirely and no cutscenes

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my anime senses say the objective should be 4 hsus housing alive people that become the new characters GWcorbinTopKek

onyx socket
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there's also a bunch of stuff about cortex connections/HSUs so

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the main characters could be some sort of clones/connected to different bodies

fair lion
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i mean yeah heard that theory and can be true but the controlled bodies are still the same people

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so the hsus we recover are some special people that can go further into the complex because reasons GWjiangoPepeGenius

onyx socket
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well they're stuck in stasis units

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so more they were put there

fair lion
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wat

onyx socket
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HSU, they're hydrostasis units

fair lion
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i know but i didn't say anything about that

onyx socket
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oh, you just did though

fair lion
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what difference does it make in what i said whether they were put in hsu by force or voluntarily

onyx socket
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well I doubt they were able to be put into hsus without a machine or something

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so they'd have to be placed there and not like, walked there themselves and jumped in lol

fair lion
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again, i didn't say anything about that

onyx socket
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woops, my bad then

solar nova
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I thoughts are closer to a traditional suicide mission (no expedition scan, an objective is completed that causes your entire team to die and you win) or an off-screen mission failure. You could also transition halfway through a rundown. Play as team A up to mission X, and the following mission, mission Y, features team B which is picking up after team A died some ways through. You could find team A's corpses or something.

fair lion
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ye but think about the drama

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latter scenario kinda lame also - killing our characters off-screen

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but yes ofc many good ways to kill them

solar nova
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Could make a two-part mission.

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D1.1 and D1.2; D1.1 has an ending sequence that kills team A. D1.2 picks up afterwards, with all the preceding tasks complete, but is run by team B which replaces team A.

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They'd need to implement a system where one mission is required to play other missions on the same level first, though.

fair lion
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well warden's got plenty prisoners to kill i presume, enough scenarios for all of us GWrjkKappaLUL

solar nova
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I guess the level system wouldn't need adjustments.

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You could just have some way of displaying that D2 requires D1, for example.

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So the levels would have tiering, B tier requires the entire A tier, but some levels on a tier might require other levels on that tier before they can be accessed.

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Could also give them a way of gating levels that doesn't require upping the difficulty.

fair lion
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i imagine that's already planned

fervent iris
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ray stop right there

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I cant change my pfp

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and im sure the devs cant afford getting more actors and writers to script more characters

digital bronze
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its confirmed sleepers are dinosaur??

solar nova
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Nothing is confirmed.

lilac island
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It's not confirmed that they're NOT

lilac island
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I'm sticking with my idea that we're clones that are either being controlled or remember our previous drops into the facility via memories as nightmares

hot burrow
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I think that the 4 characters are the wardens best

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Every time we complete a dive he puts them back in the HSU and get a different team but that team fails he brings back the "best team" which is woods Dauda hackett and bishop.

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that to

solar nova
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Seems too implausible, the subsurface transmission is more likely from when the complex still had employees, not other prisoner teams that die before us every single expedition.

pulsar folio
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The Warden (person? ai? group of ppl?) has several HSUs(clone tubes). They use these to make copies of/store their special ops team(The Prisoners). If a team dies they can send in a backup clone team. If a operative succeeds and is in good shape, they can make an updated backup of that operative.

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Also has anyone considered that “The Warden” and “The Prisoners” might not actually be like a real warden and real prisoners

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It could just be codenames/ranks

fervent iris
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^

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that would explain why dauda says "it comes every night without fail, there are different people every time, but they seem familiar"

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since they were all cloned, they dont know each other directly, but depending on what level of cloning is going on, we retain our memory of our last expedition

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this is why when we die, we learn

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its almost fourth wall breaking

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maybe the sub-surface transmission were our past selves

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but they're just as likely just another team of prisoners

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although Hsu-cloning seems unlikely, as HSU's (HydroStasis Unit) just seem to be a way to suspend prisoners between expeditions, it also seems to be a way that complex staff suspended their workers (pre-shit hitting the fan) until the workers were needed, this is why in A1 we head out to the Administrators HSU to gather DNA as the administrator is in hydrostasis suspension

round valley
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I like this theory.

fervent iris
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me no like

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i want dauda to actually be mentally insane

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instead of the warden able to just make him mentally normal

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cause dauda big gay

round valley
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oOf

ashen crypt
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well, just like helldivers

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for whatever sakes

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reason, you can call in countless copies of yourself

fair lion
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if clones are a thing, maybe 'prisoners' refers to clones

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used for manual labour or whatever

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no human rights n shit

onyx socket
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could be some altered carbon stuff, where they're using other people's bodies

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so they recognize each other but aren't technically the same person

lilac island
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May I play devil's advocate for a sec?

fair lion
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meaning

lilac island
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I had the thought that what Dauda says in the trailer about his dreams might be just the result of trauma from his time in service, and we're reading into it too much from a lore perspective. I'm not that familiar with everything that's circulating as far as GTFO is concerned though, and I could be wrong.

fair lion
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entirely possible

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i'm having fun here with what-if scenarios rather than trying to actually find out what the lore is

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don't have enough information for that

lilac island
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Right right. The environmental storytelling that is currently there just has me jonesing to figure out what's actually going on. lol The HSU's intrigue me a lot, as does the mind-link stuff. When I first saw the trailer, I thought that the people Dauda references were the sleepers. He recognizes and realizes they were people once. It didn't occur to me that he could have been referencing people he'd worked with in the past/past selves/etc.

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Do you think it's significant to the story that the site is on Chicxulub?

fair lion
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as people say, it's probably the origin of whatever infection this is

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if it is, that should also make the site the only source of this infection on Earth

lilac island
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Seems like a solid assumption to me.

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I mean if we're going down that route then that means either the infection/parasite was in the crust and the meteor opened up to it or the thing was in the meteor itself

dry owl
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More in the crust. Very deep in the crust. Nothing could have survived in that meteor, when it fell on earth. The energy released on impact was immense.

fair lion
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and being on the receiving end was any easier?

dry owl
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Didnt say that. But if there are only those 2 possibilities then in the crust.

fair lion
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maybe they're evolved tardigrades GWrjkKappaLUL

lilac island
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Impossible

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Tardigrades are the apex of evolution

faint minnow
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Tardigrades as in Waterbears?

wintry elk
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I think prisoner refer to "you who is a soul that is trapped in an endless amount of clone bodies"

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and warden is the control protocol / AI that monitor everything while the prisoner is asleep

pulsar folio
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We don’t know that “The Warden” is/are singular

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sure only we on hear one voice from them

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but they could still be a group/organization

round valley
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🙌 I choose to believe Papa Ludwig is the Warden. I will eagerly throw my life away in service of the great one.BestMod 🙌

lilac island
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Don't forget that Doc and Warden are fucking

delicate atlas
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I don't think D0c is apart of the lore

dry owl
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definetly not canonically^^

lilac island
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It was a joke but ok

timid lance
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D0c is best GTFO waifu

bronze gate
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Scree best wifu

lilac island
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Who is this Doc of whom you speak?

round valley
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@frail pollen

dry owl
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He is the overlord of this discord. Created by the 9 almighty gods^^

frail pollen
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... i don't want to be associated with this lore

round valley
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Seems like there's some truth to it. He's clearly hiding something!

lilac island
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Doc best waifu

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I'm commissioning a body pillow

delicate atlas
charred tiger
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The lore runs deep.

round valley
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Like all the way down to E at least.

charred tiger
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Even deeper

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Maybe to the remanants of the asteroid

round valley
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I'm looking forward to more being revealed. I'm quite interested.

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And I think we may learn a bit about that asteroid in the upcoming 'digsite' area.

charred tiger
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Oh yes

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I hope my theory is somewhat true

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Little meat puppets

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So something wholly alien to us

round valley
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Little meat puppets? The prisoners? Or the Sleepers?

vague knoll
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you lore chasers are my favorite much love.

round valley
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ᴼⁿᵉ ᵒᶠ ᵘˢ One of us ONE OF US

charred tiger
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why not both?

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hmmmmmm? 🙂

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meat puppets for everyone

faint minnow
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yesss more meat puppets

digital bronze
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Warden is an living entity certified

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I saw warden with a baby doc

midnight spoke
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Just a small reminder, they aren't aliens or zombies. Saying they're alien to us can lead to misunderstandings and whilst they're alien to us the players, Dauda and the information you find/see implies that they know a bit about it

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Cloning is possible as a solution but it also takes away some of the edge of the fear factor imo. Some of the things mentioned implies that the group were betrayed by one of the 4 and that's why they're there, as well as that traitor being an ex employee of the company who owned the pit

lilac island
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What information is found/seen? Does it occur during this rundown 1 (no spoilers) or external?

midnight spoke
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A fair bit of it is external, if you go through the trailers, dev insights, Wikipedia etc it ends up with a fair bit. Also there's the information you get for every drop I.e. they react to light

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They plan I'm adding more lore in rundowns as findable Intel last I knew

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Though with the Wikipedia, be careful as it has spoilers

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For the first rundown

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And maybe an enemy or two from the second if they finished what was in the trailer

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On the seeing thing note, try looking into the HSU pods, nearly everyone one of them has been infected by whatever is going on

night prawn
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I figured out what it is

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It's a mutated form of covid-19

midnight spoke
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XD

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Pity viruses don't operate like that

lilac island
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@midnight spoke I'll check it out, thanks!

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Will we be able to play the first rundown after the second one drops? I saw something about unlocking previous environments?

lilac island
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When the new rundown starts the previous rundown gets deleted

hot burrow
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yep

junior gust
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Wow I should come here more often

hidden shale
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I wonder if someday they will release a package with old Rundown as « gold edition » or something to play in LAN or with friend or those rundown will be forever forgotten.

stoic rock
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🤔

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Do you mean the Alpha build rundown @hidden shale

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oh wait

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nvm

hidden shale
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I mean...I guess I mean the early acces Rundown for when official game comes out. I don’t feel like I’m playing a early acces games

stoic rock
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ah i see what you mean

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the game is already out, but its still in progress, but a base game is there already

hidden shale
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Those level are really good...probably they will get awesome but I’m sad to think they will be whipe out forever

stoic rock
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I dont think they'll be deleted

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Well, thats just my personal opinion

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If you lose the starting point then whats the point making the next one so hard already

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If A1 in the next run down if super hard it'll turn new players away

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A1 in the current one is perfect for newbies

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Also

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Rundown #001

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Meaning that its probably a set level system

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so once all levels are done in 001

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you can start 002

fair lion
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y'all are aware this is the lore channel

stoic rock
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Yes

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Oh boy time to get shouted it

hidden shale
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🤐

round valley
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You won't get shouted at haha. @stoic rock Most likely, A1 in the next rundown will be around the same difficulty as A1 in the current rundown. Each rundown isn't going to be a challenge stacked on top of the last, but instead just a fresh batch of missions and objectives!
Though yes, this is the lore channel and we should make sure the subject stays as such. If you have more questions about the next rundown, I suggest asking in either #gtfo-related-questions or #gtfo-chat :)

timid lance
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r2a1 looks to be more difficult than r1a1

worthy kite
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It is a tad. But not really.

white leaf
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The truth is

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The game was bogged from the start

marble karma
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o shit

round valley
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Anybody have some fun ideas of a lore explanation as to how the ||shadows|| exist? > w >

hollow bough
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Also, what are the shooter's projectiles made of?

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I think the || shadows || could be similar to chameleons, but of course, more advanced or more effective

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Since you can still see them

hot burrow
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I think the shooters projectiles are made from the glow they do

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every time they shot their head glows

hollow bough
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True

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How would you explain their projectiles being able to change direction mid-air?

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Because that boggles me

hot burrow
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or their projectiles are some sort of fire fly

hollow bough
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Maybe they shoot out a small piece of themself like a fire fly as you said, but it can only change direction to a degree, but can't slow itself down

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so if it misses, it can't turn back around

hot burrow
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its like a ball shape

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It may be a piece of the barnacle on their head

round valley
#

I considered that as well.

hollow bough
hot burrow
midnight spoke
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@round valley I strongly believe that they're parasites who have altered the hosts, the ||shadows|| would be a variation of the parasite (probably has a rarer gene) which leads to it's ability to camouflage and blend in, which is useful to itself and the rest of the enemies

round valley
#

A parasite certainly makes sense. The 'growths' on the monsters within the facility have always reminded me of ticks - a parasite in itself.

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Also @midnight spoke , dope pfp.

midnight spoke
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Yeah, which could also mean a hivemind mentality too, which would explain the differences as they each would fill a role

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and thanks man

charred tiger
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already said that though

round valley
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I'm having a hard time following the hivemind mentality, simply because I think alerting a single sleeper would alert Every sleeper if they were a hivemind.

charred tiger
#

but, what if the facility is blocking the alerts to a degree?

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like through doors and such?

#

it doesn't have to be a telepathic hivemind

round valley
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Hmn. True.

midnight spoke
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Yeah, it doesn't need to be telepathic

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However it explains the unique role of the scout

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Sends out an alert due to a threat, hive rushes to kill

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Ants do similar things

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The scout lets of blue light when it gets startled and screams, which means a chemical reaction might be occuring

frail heath
#

hmm

midnight spoke
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And the parasites, much like a lot of insects are sensitive to chemicals and respond differently to different chemicals

round valley
#

Hmn. I hadn't considered the blue light anything other than a visual indicator for the sake of gameplay.

midnight spoke
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Considering they react to light and it emits a large wave of it which triggers a lot of it, I personally think it's more

round valley
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That's a good point.

frail sand
#

Never actually thought about that, so now it does make sense

lilac island
#

I like to think the growths on the Shooter's head are similar to egg sacs, housing newborns of the parasite

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The "projectiles" are them firing the babies into new hosts meaning them tracking the player is the baby parasites go towards the closest host

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But that's just my idea

frail sand
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Well, the growths on the shooters are cysts, so you got the general jist of what they are.

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But as to an explanation of the tracking with the projectile cysts, well that’s gonna be a bit harder

midnight spoke
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I'm less concerned about the tracking and more concerned with the physics

lilac island
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jumps off stairs

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breaks ankles

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hell yea

midnight spoke
#

they can probably sense you my chemicals or by something you emit, be it a type of wave, sense or something like electric pulses

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Stairs are a killer irl and in game

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Stairs are evil, change my mind

lilac island
#

Stairs big meanies

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Sleepers could be ultra sensitive to sound or movement

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Which might explain how little you can move when near them

surreal swift
#

what do they dream bout anyway

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or are they just light sleepers

lilac island
ornate magnet
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They dream of parasitic sheep?

lilac island
#

They’re waiting for big mama to say dinner time so they can enjoy some of that delicious human meat upstairs

surreal swift
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im guessing scout is "mama"

lilac island
#

No that’s the big sister only they could emit a scream that high pitched to annoy the little sleepers

surreal swift
#

oof

round valley
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@lilac island 10 Chambers wants to know your location.

surreal swift
#

speaking of locations i think its highly inconsiderate that the warden doesnt even give us a map

round valley
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Perhaps the warden doesn't have a map. Or it's too inaccurate given how many rooms are destroyed/perma locked. Not to mention the holes in the walls.

surreal swift
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i mean thats ok

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i understand teh complex has its condition degradded

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but even somEthinG

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would be nice

lilac island
#

Then again who’s to say the warden even know anything about the locations in the first place

surreal swift
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i mean the warden must know

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u can see in the objectives at the top left of ur screen

lilac island
#

It could just very well be a fail safe program for all we know

surreal swift
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"find hsu_980 somewhere in the level"

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or "gather information about the location of the reactor"

round valley
#

^ Very true.

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Given those context clues it's HIGHLY unlikely that they have a map of the facility.

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So instead of being given a map, we are instead given a mapping tool that automatically maps out everywhere we go.

lilac island
#

Then again they maybe thought that the sleepers could have changed the layout of the map so instead of giving them the actual map they got the mapping tool instead

surreal swift
#

how could the sleepers do thatt ho

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it already looks like theyve chewed their fingers off

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its not like they can use tools

round valley
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Nah they wore their fingers down by clawing through the walls and remodeling the facility /s

surreal swift
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wowow very hard working

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i can see why they sleep so much now

lilac island
#

If you’ve seen C2 you know they’re capable of doing something to build a form of infrastructure

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So who knows maybe they’re using bike or some shit to make stuff

round valley
#

Bile*?

surreal swift
#

i thnk its weird how the flesh ceiling doesnt show up on the biotracker honestly

round valley
#

I specifically took a biotracker into C2 just to check that very thing.

lilac island
#

Well I dunno it makes sense they’d use something in their system

surreal swift
#

ik i asked earlier but i remember that the level description was saying "dont look up"

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of course it didnt seem to actually do anything for the level

#

but has anyone ever tried shining 4 long range flashlights at the flesh ceiling

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ive never made a group for it, and shiniing just one doesnt seem to do anything

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shooting it doesnt seem to do anything either

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but i was hoping i could provoke a response

lilac island
#

I doubt it would

surreal swift
#

it would be awesome if something happened

round valley
#

I doubt it would as well, however I've done sillier things for the sake of testing!

surreal swift
#

like an easter egg

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i just realized

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what if you had a person in the first room with flesh ceiling

lilac island
#

In my mind I honestly think that the level is made for the new enemy in the next rundown but they didn’t have enough time to do it so they implemented the chargers

surreal swift
#

and another guy in second room with ceiling

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and did it at same time

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o shit thats a good point

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maybe tahts what happened

#

a ceiling mounted enemy sounds fookin terrifying

lilac island
#

Could be but we might not get a good indication that it was the case

surreal swift
#

but the official trailer even mentioned that "i hope you bastards are lookin up every once in a while those bastards could be anywhere"

round valley
#

I mean look back to Lud's recent leaks. I suspect we may be getting a ceiling mounted enemy very soon.

surreal swift
#

o dear

lilac island
#

Some squid looking as well

surreal swift
#

i wish our poor prisoners had some fire

fair lion
#

Barnacles

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Is this a crossover episode

surreal swift
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because thats how i wanna get rid of them

lilac island
#

Wait they said that was illegal

fair lion
#

Maybe they'll make burning that shit down a warden objective

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And it's gonna summon some friends

#

Like 8 waves of friends GWrjkKappaLUL

lilac island
#

Heh I hope we get to make some plasma using Soda cans and other shit

#

But what happens if the sleepers are actually resistant to extreme heat

surreal swift
#

8 waves of friends sounds like a party

lilac island
#

Could be a possibility

surreal swift
#

idk y they would develop resistance to heat tho

#

then again no one has said the temperature of the complex

#

but im guessing its not toasty

lilac island
#

The fog in certain areas mean it ain’t all the warm

fair lion
#

With the whole comet theory the infection itself may have resistance, but that shouldn't apply to the infected

lilac island
#

Never know

fair lion
#

Until we test it GWjiangPepeThumb

#

So when's international flamethrower day

midnight spoke
#

Don't quote me on this, but I remember someone saying that flamethrowers would kinda fuck with the dynamic a bit, so they're not likely to happen

fair lion
#

you probably didn't read the whole thing so you don't know the context of why i mentioned flamethrowers here

tranquil stratus
#

then again no one has said the temperature of the complex
@surreal swift Under ground is usually a little chilly, like about 10c, and it stays that way no matter what the temperature is on the surface.

heady mortar
#

@lilac island Please don't post this kind of content into lore chat.

iron crypt
#

the devs predicted the corona virus and the monsters you see in game are really people that were infected the time is 4/10/2020

lilac island
#

NICE

scenic girder
#

Lol

late cosmos
#

you ever wonder where the ears on the infected are located?/

fair lion
#

You can actually see them on strikers

late cosmos
#

if you'll excuseeee me ima go into c2 real quick

drowsy pebble
#

yeah you can also see a face

midnight spoke
#

the remnants of one at least

late cosmos
#

hope in the in the coming stuff for the game we get to see the layout or at least where the prisoners are held

charred tiger
#

mythbusters gtfo

late cosmos
#

wait

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u mean those tiny ass containers????

dry owl
#

yeah. the objectives of A1 and B2

#

we are in those things

late cosmos
#

damn the wardens really skimpin out on us

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wonder what he looks like?

#

now that would be something to marvel at

lilac island
#

the warden might be a MEGA CHAD

late cosmos
#

or a virgin soyboy

late cosmos
#

does what he does for the good of humanity

tranquil stratus
#

You start out each mission in a HSU, it’s the thing the characters are inside during the drop

midnight spoke
#

Could be to slow down any form of infection

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Considering it gives you infection rates at the end of the round

willow creek
#

so

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do we have an y definite lore

#

other than us being prisoners

#

nvm checked pins

wraith matrix
#

Not much, but the next update should help us understand some key details of the story better.

dim zephyr
#

hey guys is their any lore explanation as to what the sleepers are?

dry owl
#

not rly. But in R2 to you will find lore

dim zephyr
#

ooo hype

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will it be like collectables and stuff?

fair lion
#

nobody knows and no spoilers

#

contain your excitement

dim zephyr
#

kk

tiny acorn
#

i'm a little bit curious about C1 lore

#

the decoded messages said :"Move up"

#

but move up where ?

tranquil stratus
#

I don't think that means up as in higher. I think it's just someone saying to proceed, or maybe move aside.

fair lion
#

adjust one's position to be nearer or to make room for someone else.
1st google result

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example:
"move up that sleeper's ass" - get close to the sleeper from behind

lilac island
#

lets hope they add in some 1 liner jokes

#

just to take some tension off the gameplay

fair lion
#

fart noise i always wanted to test if sleepers react to smell, too

lilac island
#

Someone yelling SHH QUIET then just rips out a fat one

wraith matrix
#

Some level specific lines reacting to things would be cool too, instead of the same generic lines

fair lion
#

man this place is huge

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5 kills into a room Sleepers, don't make a sound

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R2 Leon gonna be there, "What the" every 5 seconds

wraith matrix
#

Also characters should be talking to each other

lilac island
#

The Warden is Sam Hyde

fair lion
#

No it's Patrick

stoic oak
#

add interactive brapping into gtfo

vast kelp
#

Sam Hyde is the mastermind behind everything

alpine patio
#

Sam Hyde looks more like an enemy from the game

stone vine
#

boys were going to have so much lore tmr

lilac island
#

Ima take a chance card here and say we find out more info on the sleepers suggesting they’re a hive mind

uneven jacinth
#

They might be able to communicate non-verbally, but I'm not sure the word hive mind is the best descriptor tbh.

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Do they scream when they go red and alert the others locally? I'm not sure if the scout calls for help with that god awful sound or if the blue stuff is maybe electromagnetic radiation of some kind, like a radiowave.

fervent iris
#

@lilac island wym?

solar nova
#

@lilac island I doubt they'll gate the higher tiers behind the new unlock mechanic, it's probably going to gate E and maybe D. Giving us only one expedition out the gate is way too constrictive, unless they moved more things up to the A tier.

solar nova
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True, we have enough to tide us over for at least a little while.

fervent iris
#

they are most likely gating E and D, devs dont want to limit what we can play, but want to enforce a helping mindset.

dull orchid
#

how many hours before the new run down haha

wide talon
#

rn I think like one for sure

hollow bough
#

nah, 1 hour and 59 minutes rn

#

so pretty much 2 hours away

fervent iris
#

?

#

its very clearly a distraction to make b2 "easier"

stable urchin
#

@lilac island Flesh in C2?

#

It's says R2B2

#

Ye, that's in R2B2

wet condor
#

Has anyone figured out the way to access r2d2/r2e1

#

@lilac island how do you know

#

How do you access the pr kit?

#

@lilac island ^

fervent iris
#

biomass doesnt men one singular mass

scenic knoll
#

Now you can read message in terminals POG

shadow igloo
#

pmother indicates to me a source or patient zero, or maybe it is a hive. Pmother = P(rimary)Mother

tall anchor
#

I think the warden restriction has been mentioned by ludvig here

stone vine
#

guys i took it upon myself to become completely infected

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and you just start coughing and theres like green stuff running down your face

lilac island
#

Any point in which you “turn?”

stone vine
#

nope

lilac island
#

Or just cough cough cough

stone vine
#

just coughing, loss of health over time, and green stuff

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you get it by standing in a very thick fog

lilac island
#

Ahhhhh interesting

stone vine
#

Oh one more thing

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Even if you’re 100% infected it always goes back to 90%

lilac island
#

🤔

fervent iris
#

or by a new enemy that can infect you

jolly plinth
#

disinfaction is working in a really odd way though, because you disinfect your mask...

fervent iris
#

its a caprisun, the only way to drink it is to slurp it up through the cracks in the mask

stone vine
#

as long as you arent 100% infected you wont turn, so I have a feeling something is saving us

#

maybe warden

fervent iris
#

or your immune system

#

or the fact that this infection takes more time than an half an hour to completley transform its host

#

you know what else is a virus

#

post traumatic stress disorder

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from playing c2

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and getting z119 as mandatory

vestal delta
#

damn now we just need woods and duada

fervent iris
#

theres already a woods

#

we dont need a dauda

#

just north

vestal delta
#

but north was hackett

fervent iris
#

my clone will take over dauda

#

dauda big gay

gaunt kernel
#

This channel gonna explode in a week
Remember folks, don't spoil anything, yeah?

tranquil stratus
#

Has anyone been reading the logs you can find in the terminals now?

#

there's a new command now, if you type 'logs' it brings up a list

#

and 'read log_name_' to read it

#

mostly it just looks like computer garbage, like ip addresses and stuff, but there may be some clues someone nerdier than me can spot

#

every terminal so far has just one log

#

I guess maybe it will be an objective to find certain logs or maybe they will add some for lore / flavour

#

new command: "read" and then the log name

#

Is there a way to share screenshots of them? I wills tart collecting the ones I see if so

#

like I guess I could link to my steam screenshot library

#

I think that's a generic name, but the content seemed slightly different on each one, maybe I just imagined it

#

like I said it does look like computer garbage mostly

solar nova
#

Does it vary per terminal?

#

I suspect it's not level-wide.

#

@lilac island Does terminal use and commands, particularly "CLS," create new logs at all?

vestal delta
#

That log is on most of the terminals as far as I know

#

There are a few specific to expeditions

#

Like A1

#

There’s auto gen status

tranquil stratus
#

same, but there was a room in A1 I haven't explored because it was unnecessary

vestal delta
#

It might be random which terminal had the log

tranquil stratus
#

Not sure if it means anything but I noticed the log is generated at 0400 and the emergency data transfer and emergency safety measure were activated at 0324, so only just over 30 mins earlier

#

Ya but they say the emergency countermeasures were only activated very shortly before that

#

Which maybe implies whatever happened was very recent?

stable urchin
#

Internet gas?

tranquil stratus
#

I think he meant infection, maybe it auto corrected

stable urchin
#

Ye, Ik,I still like the thought of the internet in gas form tho

trim gazelle
#

Where else do they get the internet from? Our brave prisoners have to extract it from The Complex

stable urchin
#

Internet in it's rawest from

#

oh

#

Most just have that 4 thing log

ocean umbra
#

im just waiting for 2 more people to join in my game so hang on and ill delete it

#

there @lilac island ya happy

#

good now leave me alone

surreal swift
#

i remember from r1 i think the warden is blind searching thru the complex

the lvl description for a1 was to find the a level's administrator to get access to deeper levels

and then the level descriptions for the b levels was literally just to get personnel credentials (id's for b1, dna sample for b2) to access the power system on the c level

and then once the power turned on in c1, i guess that gave access to level c2 where u could find decoders for the d1 reactor

and the d1 description suggests the active reactor is a roadblock to further depth, which the warden has u deactivate

i definitely dont know for sure what the devs r aiming for, but just from the first rundown it seems like the warden doesnt know whats down there either and is just trying to explore

twilit urchin
#

Don't know if this is a glitch or a bug, but I somehow got into a lobby of R1A3

vestal delta
#

placeholder

twilit urchin
#

idk journey to the center of the Earth sounds pretty cool

stable urchin
#

I like the warden text there

quartz citrus
#

does anyone know the names for the last two levels? Cause I got a strange name on the level screen called 'Dig to the center of the Earth'

solar nova
#

There are lots of terminals on most levels, so it can be quite the hunt.

round valley
#

Very nice find!

solar nova
#

Are there other logs in other missions perhaps?

lilac island
#

For sure

primal sequoia
#

oh lovely lol

#

If anyone wants Id be down for trying to find logs tomorrow with them Ill be avalible sometime around 1pm est

#

Ill see if I can get on earlier then lol hopefully Ill be able to get up

tribal belfry
#

I can't seem to find an answer anywhere. Can anyone tell me what the intended abbreviation for GTFO stands for in this game?

#

Can you link me an explanation for how that came to be?

lilac island
#

Lol get the fuck out xD

round valley
#

?t gtfo

cloud swiftBOT
#

The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

round valley
#

@tribal belfry

tribal belfry
#

Is this meant to be cryptic? Is it actually an acronym for something, or is it more than that?

round valley
#

No, it's not an acronym for anything. The title is just "GTFO" which is meant to represent a feeling.

lilac island
#

@tribal belfry basically it means get the fuck out

tribal belfry
#

Pretty much @lilac island

#

Like I said, it's acting cryptic and beating around the bush for what GTFO means.

fervent iris
#

so far i tested b1 and b2, no new logs

trim grail
#

why i don't go 2 map yellow XD

snow linden
#

Probably infected

#

Ask the devs :^)

#

Apparently a Decontamination item was added or something of the sort

#

Yellow = Usually relates to an infection

scenic knoll
#

@trim grail can you say what happened on C2 and D1 (with spoilers)?

dense wyvern
#

I think (Not lore related I know) but I think the last two are opened when the community beats enough of the levels. Don't quote me on that though

fervent iris
#

im quoting you on that because you're likely correct

#

it seems that d2 and e1 are warden restricted

#

also sakura who are your teammates

#

i keep on getting ppl that eat crayons mid match

trim grail
#

@scenic knoll
C2: Run run, wtf, he down.... We can't make it
D1: WTF is that, i can see any think, aww my blood
XD

fervent iris
#

d1 is more ||strategy than anything||

scenic knoll
#

Can you tell more about D1 (just interesting)?

fervent iris
#

1 word

#

||generators||

trim grail
#

@scenic knoll i say 1 word.... You can't see any think =))))

fervent iris
#

sakura what zones are you headed to

#

not seeing crap shouldnt be that big of a deal

trim grail
#

I want go D2 and E1

#

I just clear D1

cursive lava
#

i think d2/e1 is just not finished yet

#

but that's just my guess

snow linden
#

Any updates on giant tapeworm enemy at the end of the 2017 Game awards trailer?

#

time stamped

fervent iris
#

its an enemy that is supposed to punish ppl from straying from the group

snow linden
#

Is it currently in anywhere (also spoiler your text if you know)?

#

or is it still development stuff?

fervent iris
#

not seen yet, judging by the roadmap its not gonna be in D2 or E1 but who knows

snow linden
#

gotcha

lost ore
#

looking at a russian gameplay it seems like:

#

||the source of infection are some kind of fungical sacs attached to the walls. they are somehow alive and breathing.||

lilac island
#

EBOT_00BE1

#

B4

#

Zone 23

fickle mesa
#

Use F12 to get a screenshot via steam or Print Screen

willow creek
#

so no new enemies?

#

Im kinda sick of just runners ,we need variations and other things like the worm monster

willow creek
#

I need new enemies because the sleepers are kinda.....boring?

#

Not to say they arent threatening but after the trailer I want MORE variations

#

**Also can someone fill me in what happened Rundown 1 because I didnt finish the tier 3 or 4 levels

willow creek
#

Invisible sleepers?! How did they gain that ability?

#

So are the sleepers evolving? What’s the story here?

opal lance
#

I think they shared the same animation as the sleepers, but are supposed to be a different variation. I think the idea is that infected hosts can continue to mutate

midnight spoke
#

So they were aware of the cause of infection

#

And had a "cure"

#

Explains the new infection status

#

Well I'm not sure about that, you can ||cure yourself of infection|| in game

#

It's new this patch so it's easy to forget

#

Judging by how a few levels look, it's definitely a mine

#

Question being, what were they looking for

#

They obviously knew about the infection

#

Hmm, possible

#

It could just be the rate of infection was higher than expected

#

Or something else happened and that made them too busy/unable to stop infection

solar nova
#

We might get answers later, since the C levels are all about locating "cold storage."

midnight spoke
#

Inb4 massive colony of sleepers predating us

stone vine
#

yeah theres a leak at the digsite

#

probably didnt get to finish drilling

#

seeing how the place is now

midnight spoke
#

They could have gotten to where they wanted and not finish setting everything up

#

Or there's my favourite idea of something coming out

#

Due to the floors being torn upwards

#

At entries

#

Judging from the tears, unlikely

#

They were pretty huge

#

Must be quite larger than the big strikers

tranquil stratus
#

@lilac island Have just been looking at the slides you made and I had a thought about the default auto log text. It says an emergency blast data transfer was made and it connected to four nodes. Perhaps that is the Warden computer connecting the cortex interface to the prisoners, which we see in the intro movie? If that's true then the automatic safety measure it mentions is the Warden activating the (disposable) prisoners already stored on-site in the HSUs and deploying them to deal with whatever is happening.

opal lance
#

are we playing the game as the same 4 prisoners? Or is each drop a random set of new prisoners who often die down there? I'm tempted to say the former, just because of the voice acting they've added.

tranquil stratus
#

Some have speculated that the four prisoners' minds are being jacked into disposable bodies

#

The flashbacks in the intro are probably the moments when they or the prisoner bodies died before they were brought back online by the Warden computer

opal lance
#

That is interesting. Buttt it kinda takes the fear away? Why would they be so scared if they knew they werent actually down there

tranquil stratus
#

I'm not sure about the mind jack theory TBH because you can clearly see that Dauda is black and that the Irish guy has a specific eye colour mentioned in his bio, I think there are some other clues as well

#

but it is interesting to think about

#

They could be clones as well which would make sense as to why they are in storage tanks

opal lance
#

it used to be woods, north, bishop, and dauda but north got replaced
@lilac island what happened to north? Lore related? Or just changed it

#

They could be clones as well which would make sense as to why they are in storage tanks
@tranquil stratus that does make more sense.

midnight spoke
#

clones are a bad option due to cell degradation

#

if you're 40 and they make a clone of you, that clone's cellular age is instantly 40

#

so by the time it's 40, it's body would act 80

opal lance
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Do you think the video in steam is old and pre-lore? I don't quite get the reference "there are different people everytime, but somehow I recognise them"

midnight spoke
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But this is sci-fi, so eh

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That would be Dauda talking about his dreams

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By memory

tranquil stratus
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if you're 40 and they make a clone of you, that clone's cellular age is instantly 40
@midnight spoke The men are all of working age though

midnight spoke
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What's your point?

tranquil stratus
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Do you think the video in steam is old and pre-lore? I don't quite get the reference "there are different people everytime, but somehow I recognise them"
@opal lance That would make sense if they are clones or other bodies being used remotely by the player characters. Like they may not look the same each time but he knows it is the same four people.

midnight spoke
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It's not him describing things he's seeing either though

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"It’s not a nightmare, it’s just a part of me, who I am."

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Bruh

opal lance
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hmmmm. Sort of. But I think it would make more sense if he said something like "they are the same people each time, but different somehow.".. or "I dont recognise them somehow"

midnight spoke
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there was a cutting torch?

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that's neat

tranquil stratus
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Maybe the torch will come back in the future. Like some of the other ideas they've brought over from Aliens :p

midnight spoke
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By what Dauda actually says entirely

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It seems more like a psychic or subconscious connection

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Which is whack

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"It comes every night without fail"
"There are different people every time"
"But I recognize them somehow"
"They’re screaming at me I don’t hear them but I know they are screaming"
"Such hate, and anger"
"I don’t know what I have done to them"
"They want me to feel what they feel"
"Then I wake up and I’m not sweating or screaming, I’m perfectly calm. I just open my eyes and I’m awake!"
"It’s not a nightmare, it’s just a part of me, who I am."
"I don’t fight it, I just, live around it”

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Nah man, hacket is the traitor

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Hacket worked for the mining company

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my mistake

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I always get confused between the two

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aaaaaaaa

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Either way, there's that

opal lance
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"They’re screaming at me I don’t hear them but I know they are screaming"
"Such hate, and anger"
"I don’t know what I have done to them"

Are interesting lines.

tranquil stratus
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Duada's dream sounds like his memories of being jacked into other bodies perhaps. "They want me to feel what they feel" = they feel what the clone bodies feel via the cortex interface. I dunno I'm not super invested in the theory but like I say it's fun to speculate

midnight spoke
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And I remember seeing one of the devs talking about on leaving 3 to hang

opal lance
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I thought he was talking about the infected in those 3 lines.

tranquil stratus
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Equally possible 😛

midnight spoke
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What if this is Dauda just dreaming

tranquil stratus
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Shh don't spoil my fun

midnight spoke
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If it was clones, they'd all have similar symptoms probably

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The fact that dauda alone remembers, is interesting in itself

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It means it's localised with him

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So either he's insane, voodoo, psychic, he's secretly infected or he dreaming

opal lance
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oooooo

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I like that hes infected.

midnight spoke
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And it would make sense for the company to experiment a little

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They obviously studied it enough to make a cure for it

opal lance
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I kinda like the theory that hes infected and in some way is connected to the other infected somehow. And thats why he says they want me to feel what they feel. Such anger and hate

midnight spoke
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Well I'm under the opinion the sleepers are a hive mind of sorts

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They fulfil different roles, the growth and physical differences show that easily. They can at least warn each other in a similar manner to ants can, they haven't tried leaving from the looks of things, so are they just staying or they protecting something?

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A company trying to make a person connect to said hive mind would be a huge advantage

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Like Ender's game

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Entire species but 1 wiped due to a kid knowing about them by connection

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Could be, could also be a vessel of it, or a place where it spawns parasites or whatever

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Not to sure on that

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C2 was interesting because nothing interesting happened

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It implied a root like structure though

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Just pulsing and gross

tranquil stratus
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@opal lance yeah that makes sense, if he’s infected enough that he is starting to experience the hive mind but hasn’t been completely taken over, or maybe being stored in the tank stopped the process temporarily. That could even by why people are being stored in the tanks in the first place, basically in suspension until someone figures out how to deal with the disease

midnight spoke
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It's also possible they altered him without him actually being infected

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Genetic splicing is a fun thing

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He could also have an implant which acts on a similar frequency

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kek

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I wish, that would be more amusing to see

opal lance
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although if he is connected and they want him to feel what they feel, it suggests no ulterior motive other than they're infected and full of rage. Like zombies from any movie. No stimuli and they kinda fall asleep, until they find someone not like them

midnight spoke
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Or, very interesting but unlikely possibility

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The human brain remains at least slightly intact and what he is seeing is the remnants of those people's feelings/memories etc

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We're not actually sure how much the bodies have been altered, so I'm curious on what left or not

opal lance
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like 28 days later?

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its basically them, but full of rage

midnight spoke
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If I remember it properly, yes

tranquil stratus
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And head crab zombies in half life, they cry for help and stuff

opal lance
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I do kinda like the idea that they are still partly there somehow

midnight spoke
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Is that a luring thing or remnants of a person though

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Either way, crabs screaming help is a nope

dry owl
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@tranquil stratus They say Ohh, Dear God, help me, help me, ahhhh, in reverse

midnight spoke
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And so do I, it adds another layer to the monster

opal lance
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yep.

fair lion
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Considering they don't give a crap about their head exploding, I don't think the brain's still there

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Not much space with all those teeth anyway

midnight spoke
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Well they don't need to give a crap

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the parasite is the new controller of the body

charred tiger
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they are nothing more than little sentries for the hive

opal lance
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yeah exactly. The muscles are moving without a CNS

charred tiger
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the Great One

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it could care less if a few hundred die so long as the brain itself is not threatened

midnight spoke
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and obviously it doesn't need the brain to regulate the body because it went ahead and mutated the body into what it needed

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rather than depending on the current body

charred tiger
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they are just meat puppets afterall

midnight spoke
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I like how your bringing it to brain bugs

fair lion
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I've said it once before

charred tiger
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its always the brain bugs

fair lion
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If there's a hive mind maybe they're like slaves
Or
Puts on sunglasses
Prisoners

opal lance
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if there was a hive mind I feel like you wouldnt be able to stop it screaming, though. And I dont think you'd need a scout to alert a room. You alert a room by waking one up and letting it scream and wake the others

charred tiger
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exactly

opal lance
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surely a hive mind would just wake the others

midnight spoke
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depends on the type of hive minds

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As I pointed out, they act similarly to ants

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Which is a hivemind

charred tiger
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it could be a rudimentary one

midnight spoke
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When under attack, they alert others and swarm the threat

charred tiger
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and the facility itself is blocking scents or sounds

opal lance
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there is some hive mind thing about them. But maybe its not a central brain?

midnight spoke
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They do this by either using chemicals that the antennae sense or by physically running back

charred tiger
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central brain or a colony of parasites?

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that is the question

midnight spoke
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Now, what do sleepers do? They react to each others change in physicality and react to the scout, which is basically dropping one big chemical bomb

opal lance
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maybe they are working in a similar fashion to ants or white blood cells.

midnight spoke
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due to light normally meaning a chemical reaction

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Honestly, whilst it's good to draw comparisons to help understand it, I'm also leaving the possibility it's unique to itself

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The comparisons are good for understanding their behaviour but what they actually are could be something new

opal lance
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yeah, but not new to the point its completely different

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how different can it really get

midnight spoke
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Extremely different but this is how science works

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you start picking at it and breaking it down to try understand it as a whole

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Like why do different finches have different beaks? At first we'd just have thought it was just how they are

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But it was to adapt and eat different things due to the environmental differences

opal lance
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yeah. But what I'm saying is, its still a beak and its still used to eat stuff. The way in which it does that might be different

midnight spoke
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Hmm, I get you

opal lance
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thats what I mean by how different can it really be

midnight spoke
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Okay, here's another example

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Are whale fins and arms similar?

charred tiger
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one chops the food up

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the other seeks out the food

opal lance
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fins and arms?

charred tiger
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new flesh puppets for master

opal lance
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in the sense that they're on the side of the body, yeah

midnight spoke
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They actually have a lot more in common than that

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The bones are highly similar, they shape just changes slightly

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reeee

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hold up

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I actually learned about this last year

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The colours correspond with the same structures in the different animal

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at first glance they're completely different but ultimately they're similar as hell

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They've just adapted for different things

fair lion
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That just means God is a lazy developer GWrjkKappaLUL

hollow bough
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that means whales have stubby arms

midnight spoke
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Now, what if the sleepers have adapted to something entirely new?

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At least new from our perspective

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It explains the key differences in their physiology

fair lion
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It's a man-made complex why would they adapt new-ly

midnight spoke
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Just because the complex is man made doesn't mean the cause is

fair lion
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I mean they're in it, there'd have to be something there to make it necessary

midnight spoke
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Or, it could be where they were digging

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Bacteria and animal species have survived in isolated caves/areas

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There's one in Italy which is a good example of this

fair lion
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But those are infected people

midnight spoke
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yes, infected by what?

fair lion
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They wouldn't just have been there sealed underground

midnight spoke
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something, which could have been sealed underground

fair lion
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And it already knows how to change people effectively

midnight spoke
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Changing physiology isn't that difficult, it's just chemical reactions ultimately

charred tiger
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you are looking at the crater of the big roid that killed the prehistoric animals

midnight spoke
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^

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And don't forget, it is sci-fi

fair lion
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Dunno crap but that's a hell of a lot of effort

charred tiger
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well it depends

midnight spoke
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We also don't know if it was surviving in another host previously until it found something better and in greater supply

charred tiger
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what was the parasite introduced to upon waking up or being reactivated?

midnight spoke
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Or if it was dormant

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It still could be bacterial or fungal as well

charred tiger
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was it poked and prodded by loud noisy humans with drills?

fair lion
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To mutate people like that would require a lot of energy or something wouldn't it

charred tiger
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or did it wake up when someone drilled into it

midnight spoke
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Also, if it was man-made, why'd they have to make a cure for workers getting infected by a water supply?

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Seems counter intuitive

charred tiger
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nope

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the amount of energy within a human body is very easily enough to reshape us and grow new bones and such

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especially if you're fat

midnight spoke
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We have a fair bit of stored energy and in addition, the human body is actually really fragile chemically

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If your pH changes by 2 in either direction, your dead

charred tiger
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mhm

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which is why i don't get people who drink alkaline water

fair lion
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But I'm fairly certain I won't wake up with a splitting headache and 100 teeth tomorrow

midnight spoke
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because your not having something trigger it

charred tiger
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who says it was instant?

fair lion
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Why would it trigger it tho

midnight spoke
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But there are people in the world with extremely abnormal growths

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With a range of causes

fair lion
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They don't use the teeth on us and don't seem to be doing anything at all

midnight spoke
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Especially environmental

fair lion
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The Naruto runners maybe have broken arms too

midnight spoke
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Let us know what is says

charred tiger
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perhaps they are in the midstage of metamorph?

midnight spoke
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that's possible

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The arms don't bother me so much because due to the worm like tongue, they seem to like manoeuvrability and flexible bodies

charred tiger
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still resembling humans slightly while they sleep and their insides shift

midnight spoke
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the teeth could have just been kept during the change, same with the arms and legs

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ye, the eyelids are still there

charred tiger
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dissolving the eyes as it changes them to make them into much better carriers and drones

midnight spoke
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Possible, never seen an open eye so can't say for sure if they're not being used or they're gone

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BUT, if any creeps use eyes later on, I'm leaving

charred tiger
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at some point i wouldn't be suprised to see a sleeper with the ability to eject acid from the digestive tract

midnight spoke
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kek

fair lion
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Not that they digest anything

charred tiger
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rock

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prisoners

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my pinkie toe once.

fair lion
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When you blow a whole in their stomach you don't see any of that

midnight spoke
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Hell, they could actually digest algae

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Or they could have a biproduct of theirs in their stomach

fair lion
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I don't think they eat

midnight spoke
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if we can produce acid for our stomachs, why can't they

fair lion
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Adapted not to have one

midnight spoke
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Well, they can have things they don't need

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we have things we don't need

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That's evolution

fair lion
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And water bears will still outlive them GWcorbinTopKek

midnight spoke
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tardigrades will outlive everything

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except the queen maybe

fair lion
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Hahayes

charred tiger
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queen?

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bruh

eternal talon
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Dauda might have a modified strain of the parasite, or maybe it just reacted differently to him. Allowing him to "connect" and "interact" with it directly. Would explain his unique quirks.

midnight spoke
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Definitely, I'm kinda fond of the that idea atm

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But I'm also keeping my eyes open for new possibilities

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I wonder if the devs ever read this stuff and giggle if we get close to the truth

fair lion
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Probably more like "well shit that's another thing I gotta change to make sense now"

midnight spoke
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Scifi allows flexibility thankfully

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Who knows, we could actually give them ideas rarely

willow creek
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so

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are there actually any new enemies?

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And also if the Sleepers used to be humans, how are they turning invisible?

frail sand
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The Shadows were already in the first rundown, so they were already present

tardy osprey
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Why do the scouts have tentacles and the other ones don't?

lilac island
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My guess is it depends on how the virus affects the host

lilac island
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What logs do we know off ?

vestal delta
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i know of 2

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which ones?

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ah cool

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btw some missions dont have special logs

gaunt kernel
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Spoilered, for content in the new rundown. Feel free to remove the message if I can't talk about new enemies here with spoiler text!
||So, I'm surely not the first to call them by the name, but I'd love to think I was, since I played it within the first couple hours of release :^) The wall-based enemies, does anyone call them anything but 'cyst'? I was the first in my group to name them, and I'm curious if anyone else has a different/official name||

tacit mesa
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@round valley @round valley

round valley
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Regu~

real pewter
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what is this?

hollow bough
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did you find something different in the D1 terminal log, North?