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acoustic pelican
narrow elbow
?t lfg
pulsar folio
It doesn’t t have to be a tick
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atomic tree
"Prehistoric", "made" pick one
pulsar folio
A tick is just a kind of parasite
atomic tree
And we know it is a parasite.
narrow elbow
@acoustic pelican read what GTFO Bot just wrote above
pulsar folio
They made a bioweapon from stuff they found in the crater
narrow elbow
that's almost a definite
acoustic pelican
Cheers @narrow elbow
atomic tree
I am also in the old creature found, then been done research on camp tho.
atomic tree
How you explain "Manual override" then?
narrow elbow
It's a sentient AI
pulsar folio
Warden could be anything still. I think is likely a hacker
narrow elbow
They can do that kind of thing
pulsar folio
Ai don’t have hands
narrow elbow
boom
pulsar folio
qed
atomic tree
Tbf manual doesn't means it have to be physical
narrow elbow
system would view commands as a manual override as well though
atomic tree
I mean, I am all for that. As I don't think warden is an AI, but I still think a sentient AI would be able to take manual control
narrow elbow
what you think the system has a detectHands() function somewhere in there?
atomic tree
Well, it is a HSU pod
pulsar folio
Or is warden something someone else plugged in?
narrow elbow
Warden as a sentient AI would be a component yes but it'd likely be a supercomputer connected to the system
atomic tree
And the Cortext Interface, so technically not warden.
narrow elbow
SSHing various computers it's connected to
atomic tree
It would be like if my Windows10 openend my GTFO game.
narrow elbow
the rest would likely be automated systems
More like if a computer on your network connected to your computer and spoofed keyboard commands to open GTFO
pulsar folio
Warden might as well be a hacker then
narrow elbow
yep
pulsar folio
Why is warden taking control?
narrow elbow
usual evil sentient AI trope
either we gave it the wrong prime directive or we gave it emotions
pulsar folio
Yeah but that doesn’t make sense
narrow elbow
both are disasterousw
stable urchin
Could also just be doing what it's programmed to do
pulsar folio
Warden is a hacker who wants the technologies made by santonian
narrow elbow
as in we gave it the wrong prime directive
pulsar folio
:/
narrow elbow
the prime directive is basically an algorithm that the AI uses to determine how many points it gets for doing a task. we use that for helping an AI teach itself, it's even used in Neural networks today.
stable urchin
Interesting
pulsar folio
Who made warden if it is an AI
narrow elbow
Santonian
pulsar folio
That again doesn’t make sense
stable urchin
Why not
narrow elbow
an example of a prime directive that would be bad would be if we told it to learn as much as it could about the infection.
pulsar folio
But santonian created it as a bioweapon
stable urchin
They made the AI, shit goes crazy, AI is still running
Where do you get the bioweapon from
?
pulsar folio
Why didn’t the AI have access to anything but the most basic storage areas then?
narrow elbow
so in the example of the prime directive I provided, the AI would do whatever it could to learn as much as it could about the infection. a really good way to get data about a disease is observing infected areas.
so if the AI had that it might choose to infect its entire facility for more data
pulsar folio
Yeah, but they aren’t going to give their storage sorting AI that goal
narrow elbow
storage sorting
It could be the AI was a back up plan if it all went to shit
narrow elbow
another assumption
pulsar folio
Warden only had access to storage. What else was it doing other than sorting stuff
narrow elbow
That's another possibility but that would make the AI an automated system rather than a sentient AI
It had access to the Cortex Interface and The players
pulsar folio
Warden being an AI doesn’t make sense
narrow elbow
you are already wrong
stable urchin
Do we have any proof it's sentient
narrow elbow
oh and the elevator system
We don't
If it isn't sentient someone is directing it
hence the manual override
narrow elbow
it'd be a plural
narrow elbow
Woods states "let's get what the warden want and get out"
pulsar folio
So the warden is a group. Cool
stable urchin
But what would you hope to gain down there?
pulsar folio
Santonians abandoned technologies
narrow elbow
still trying to figure that out
stable urchin
It's a digging/research facility
pulsar folio
More control of the facility is one thing
narrow elbow
with sentient AI, it'd be aiming to get as much access to the facility as possible
stable urchin
What tech
stable urchin
Up in chat
narrow elbow
whoever it is is still studying the infection
pulsar folio
A group wants access so they can get tech
narrow elbow
hence A1
stable urchin
But what tech is there to find @pulsar folio
stable urchin
Yeah
I don't believe they made that shit on purpose
But found it
And studied it
It got lose
narrow elbow
I'd bet it was refined before getting loose
stable urchin
Infected some pleps
pulsar folio
C foam and bioscanners are likely complex-made infections
narrow elbow
I feel like you're trolling now
stable urchin
What is to say it got made post breakout
pulsar folio
Infection is likely refined by complex to use as a bioweapon
stable urchin
But, it,s a digging site
pulsar folio
player characters were likely made to be used as super soldiers
stable urchin
Some of it
frail sand
My guy @pulsar folio , you do realise all the equipment our characters have are actually repurposed mining tools?
frail sand
Or at least that’s what it said in the presentation
frail sand
except for the hacking tool
narrow elbow
@frail sand the hacking tool seems to be using a backdoor provided by CNTRL Technologies on their locks
pulsar folio
Still, not all of them.
narrow elbow
oh you got me
frail sand
oof
pulsar folio
Like how is a sniper a repurposed digging device
narrow elbow
for dealing with the pesky unions
stable urchin
See ya all
narrow elbow
byeeee
pulsar folio
Santonian likely made the complex as a place for R&D of new technologies they wanted to keep secret
Things that governments might not want them to have
narrow elbow
would have been WAY cheaper above ground
pulsar folio
Yes, but too easy to be found
pulsar folio
the mine is a great cover, and provides access to alien dna
narrow elbow
like, so much cheaper you could have afforded an Army the size of a 3rd World country's
yeah, it's very clear that it was one of Santonians investments, was mining
frail sand
you guys do remember this is the site asteroid that killed the dinosaurs
narrow elbow
yep
pulsar folio
But if the infection got out of hand, everyone would realize santonian was doing other stuff too
stable urchin
Even more reasone it was a digging site @frail sand
frail sand
yey
pulsar folio
It was a “digging site”
narrow elbow
Asteroids carry alot of really rare minerals and gases so it'd potentially be a jackpot
pulsar folio
They were getting ores and selling them, but they were also running wacky experiments
pulsar folio
It wouldn’t have been an accident if they found life with a bigass bioscanner
strong gust
Given the appearance of the infected it would stand to reason it was probably something tiny. They share a lot of common visual identifiers with molds we have on earth.
it would also explain the fog
stable urchin
Again it's likely the sleepers first came to be after the breakout
Props parasite
Or shti
pulsar folio
So santonian is slowly but surely mining downwards and expanding their operation, testing new technologies all the while
frail sand
think about it for a moment
Santonian is there to dig shit out of the astroid site, and considering how many different companies are involved, it is more likely a profiteering endeavour, rather than wacky stuff, so why would Santonian screw up an opportunity like this with so many supposed investors involved with a fucking bioweapon
pulsar folio
Santonian and their subcorparatiojs
stable urchin
@frail sandprecisely
strong gust
Bioweapons are worthless to be honest.
stable urchin
Yes
pulsar folio
why?
narrow elbow
oh yeah
stable urchin
Why would they make a bioweapon
strong gust
Research into bioweapons tends to be in curing or eliminating it
stable urchin
Yes
strong gust
This seems accidental
pulsar folio
Because they are powerhungry
stable urchin
Thats what I have been trying to get at
pulsar folio
same reason people tried to make super soldiers programs
stable urchin
Acidente
frail sand
And considering how the infection is optimised to be good at killing in overwhelming numbers and virulence, it’d be hard to control a bioweapon like that
pulsar folio
or nukes
stable urchin
Why would such a small company want a nuke
narrow elbow
also photosensitivity
pulsar folio
What do you mean small company
narrow elbow
doesn't seem small in-game
pulsar folio
I never said they wanted a nuke
But they do have nuclear reactors powering their “mine”
strong gust
The point is that there's no buyer for a zombie virus because we're all aware it's a fucking awful idea.
stable urchin
Yes
pulsar folio
Yeah but they can use it to take over the world
strong gust
I would guess that they had a ton of unused space
No they can't
If you make the whole world into sleepers
Congrats, the whole world is no longer useful
stable urchin
No reason to make bioweapon
frail sand
It’s not even a zombie virus, bc the bodies are technically still alive
pulsar folio
They use it to make an example out of a country
then they use their supersoldiers to clean it up
strong gust
Super soldiers?
pulsar folio
And doubly make an example
stable urchin
The clones
strong gust
Why would you bother with cloning?
frail sand
i have no idea where ye be getting supersoldiers from
stable urchin
He is alsoon toclones
frail sand
And clones?
pulsar folio
Not skilled people
stable urchin
Yep
frail sand
Exactly
pulsar folio
why is the administrator of the facility in a tube in an overrun storage complex?
strong gust
The prisoners used to explore the complex have no skills
pulsar folio
it’s not the administrator, it’s a clone
strong gust
They may not even know how to handle a weapon
They're under manual control by something. Us, essentially.
pulsar folio
The “4 people” we play as, are really just large amounts of 4 types of super soldiers
narrow elbow
he's been on these strange ideas all night
pulsar folio
no I went to sleep
frail sand
Not entirely, it’s more like the Warden itself is going against its own parameters to deploy prisoners
strong gust
It doesn't entirely seem that way from what I've seen.
pulsar folio
Well warden at first only has access to the first storage area
frail sand
But this does support the idea of outside peeps be overriding the Warden
pulsar folio
They need the admin to go deeper
strong gust
I have a question.
pulsar folio
Outside people are the warden
strong gust
If there is a giant hole in the earth.
And zombies in the hole.
Why are they only in the hole?
Are they only down there?
pulsar folio
If santonian is “only mining” why do they have a prison warden AI
strong gust
Is there anything saying that there's anyone actually alive outside?
strong gust
This infection is of such a catastrophic magnitude it's not impossible
frail sand
Think of how we get into the facility
narrow elbow
warden is synonymous with "overseer"
strong gust
We're popped out of HSUs and dropped down a large hole
narrow elbow
it doesn't need to refer to a prison
pulsar folio
yeah but we are “prisoner”
narrow elbow
and the Inmates would be useful for experiments
frail sand
Now think of how we find the index of the facility
strong gust
Are we inmates?
pulsar folio
we are “the prisoners”
opaque pond
we're "prisoners"
narrow elbow
so "overseer of experiments" would also work fine for it
strong gust
That doesn't necessarily mean we're convicts.
opaque pond
which means captive, not necessarily convicts
pulsar folio
forgot the “the”
strong gust
Yep.
pulsar folio
Specifically The prisoners
pulsar folio
I think there are a near limitless number of each of those 4 people
frail sand
well, not entirely far fetched in that regard
narrow elbow
definition of inmate here: One who is a mate or associate in the occupancy of a place; hence, an indweller; an associated lodger or inhabitant: as, the inmates of a dwelling-house, factory, hospital, or prison.
doesn't even need to suggest they're captive
frail sand
they’re just good assets
opaque pond
yeah but they don't call us Inmates
pulsar folio
Like santonian/someone they rented reasearch space to made a bunch of tubes of super soldiers.
narrow elbow
and it would definitely be useful for the devs to have that out as a red herring
strong gust
Who's to say we're the good ones?
narrow elbow
throw us off the scent while they figure out the actual details
pulsar folio
I think we are products of santonian
And after santonian was overrun, warden started taking over
could be decades later
narrow elbow
He also thinks that Dauda isn't one of the members of the drop in the gameplay trailer
pulsar folio
Might not be
frail sand
well, it’s at some point after 2020
pulsar folio
Dauda could be a member of the drop or an infected
narrow elbow
see, he was spoutin' that all night
pulsar folio
Clone talking about clones and infected or sleeper talking about clones
Dauda definitely isn’t the person who gets a sucker on their face at the end.
Irregardless of any cloning, mind control, infection theories, Dauda doesn’t get a tentacle slap them in the face at the end.
it’s Hackett who gets that.
strong gust
Whatever the case it's going to be tricky telling a story like this without revealing too much or too little. Interested to see how they go about it.
Given it's mostly inferred and spun out from smaller details
pulsar folio
Yeah
frail sand
Didn’t someone else here make a document of the theories that are most likely?
narrow elbow
?
pulsar folio
one thing that is certain, is that it is Hackett/Irish man who gets tentacle in their face at the end of the trailer.
narrow elbow
pls give?
frail sand
Unsure who made it, but I know someone did
strong gust
It's pretty small due to the narrow slice of detail available, but it's a really good slice
frail sand
No not them, someone else
frail sand
A 3rd person started basically compiling the theories into a document so we could keep track
narrow elbow
It's pretty outdated right now
frail sand
Bc recurring ideas keep popping up that have been disproven somewhat
normal ermine
I believe that was G_Team_Rat
olive zephyr
You guys have any questions you're interested in asking the devs?
DM them to me or @me if so. I'm curious to hear
stone vine
Yo
Yeah that was me I have the doc
I can’t give it rn though on my way to school lol
I still need to change the theory on there too though, changed my mind a bit
atomic tree
Anyone who have figures out what the voices in the background of the Rundown screen says?
Also btw, there is a voice when you select rundown missions
real pewter
there is?
normal ermine
How audible are these voices. Are they quiet, scrambled, or both?
tardy osprey
what is the tentacle guy's name? i dont want to call him tentacle guy because it seems kind of disrespectful. it would be cool if his name was todd or sam
young drum
i just call him squiggles
tardy osprey
so is that his official name?
young drum
female? how do we know?
tardy osprey
whats her name?
tardy osprey
thats a weird name
stable urchin
It scouts
young drum
ah scout
stable urchin
the area while all teh pleps sleep
stable urchin
Well they are officially called strikers, which i call them too
young drum
what about the larger melee dudes and larger ranged girls?
stable urchin
The small ranger guys are shooters, tho i call them sunflowers
Just big striker
And big shooter
For me big sunflower
worldly egret
Oo sunflowers I like that lol, pretty messed up but cool
stable urchin
Ye
tardy osprey
what about todd?
stable urchin
Goliath?
tardy osprey
todd
frail sand
goliath = big variant
young drum
thank you @stable urchin
stable urchin
np
young drum
what about the rhinos/titans?
tardy osprey
todd=todd
stable urchin
I call them rhinos too
stoic rock
or Tars
frail sand
Some of my friends actually called the big variants Titans
stable urchin
lol
stoic rock
good7
frail sand
Bc you know, almost x2 as tall than normal, and are big damage soaks
stable urchin
well
frail sand
Also, we called the black spiky bois Chargers
stable urchin
I normally call them out by goingholy shit that scared me
tardy osprey
bob
frail sand
yey
weak kayak
Spikey bois are called weebs
stable urchin
all of them are weebs
trim gazelle
Chargers
summer gale
armored weebs
I am not entirely convinced the charging animation isn't a joke from the devs
cause it's seriously hilarious
trim gazelle
I'm sure it is
gaunt kernel
Smalls are called sleepers,
Striker is the melee, female striker being the ranged one.
Scouts are the ones with tentacles.
Big Striker, Big Female.
Idunno if there are others- I have heard of some, but, I don't really want to spoil stuff for others/myself
summer gale
2 more monsters
female striker
I do think you mean female sleeper
but yes
those are the general names
some people refer to slightly different names
but it's all the same
I heard people refer to the big bois as titans
or giants
stable urchin
I call the shooters for sunflowers
arctic oyster
Does anyone know that if it's "Canon" that we succeed every time or are we playing as different prisoners each time?
hollow bough
We are the same people every time, so we can assume that these set of prisoners are supposed to be the ones that survive
pulsar folio
No no no we are identical clones of the same set every time
If a set survives that set can be sent back down
but if the set dies, a fresh set is sent
hollow bough
That's a theory, not much proof for that though
stone vine
Yeah
Not much proof for either theory
Need more info
Hopefully they make a new trailer
hollow bough
There is proof that we play the same guys and that they would, like many other games, die in player control, but in canon, they are supposed to live
narrow elbow
and there's actually evidence against the theory, since we find no leftover gear on the ground despite a team of clones going down
hollow bough
True, only bodies, and we find ammo packs and stuff, so the sleepers probably wouldn't mess with the gear, and no one would refresh the supplies for each mission after one set fails
narrow elbow
right, and the bodies we do find are specifically wearing Santonian Industries Mining jumpsuits that are torn
so we know it isn't any of the four we see go down
hollow bough
So clone theory had barely any merit or backing in-game tbh
But one of the guys has santonian jumper
narrow elbow
all of the corpses
hollow bough
I havent looked at the corpses in much detail, you sure all of them have a visible santonian logo or lettering on clothes?
narrow elbow
it's actually a hard hit TO the clone theory, since it shows that our guys leave no trace when they die
there's a picture which shows the jumpsuit fully intact
it's definitely got a SciFi look to it
hollow bough
Yeah, but the other corpses don't have a logo on it or the lettering
Just turn clothing
So we don't know who they are
narrow elbow
It's still clearly a single layer of white cloth
none of our guys have white cloth on and it matches the jumpsuits
hollow bough
Could've fallen off onto the ankles
narrow elbow
hollow bough
That one is definitely pants
hollow bough
Ah okay
pulsar folio
there isnt enough proof for or against clone theory
its all speculation
the only thing maybe related to that topic that isnt speculation is that Dauda was narrating while someone else gets slapped in the face by worm.
in the trailer
ill list all of the lines by voice
quartz wren
highly doubt clone theory is the theory they would go with anyways...i think it is a flood type deal from halo....think about how far down you are going...its gotta be a prehistoric type parasite
pulsar folio
irish man(hackett?)
"I hope you bastards are looking up once in a while. Those fuckers might be anywhere."
"Ah shit, there's fucken loads of em!"
"what the hell is tha-"
less edgy man(north?/ american man? / woods?)
"lets get this done quickly. get whatever the warden want, and get home."
"you got any of this?"
"don't freak out!"
"this is good, this is good stuff man, it'll trade."
"they'll be on us any f--n second! Keep your eyes on that door!"
edgier man(british? bishop?)
"what the hell is this place"
"this place is so damn dark"
"everything trades. groans FUCK!"
"Backup! Backup!"
warden
"sleepers..."
Nigerian man(dauda?)
"it comes, every night, without fail."
"there are different people every time"
" but I recognize them, somehow."
"they are screaming at me. I-I dont hear them, but they are screaming."
"Such.. Hate. And anger..."
"I dont know what I have done to them."
"They want me to feel what they feel."
"then I wake up. Im not sweating or screaming. Im perfectly calm. I just open my eyes and- Im awake! And its not a nightmare, its just part of me. And I dont fight it, I just -live around it."
quartz wren
found while digging or excavating
pulsar folio
i agree there is likely a prehistoric parasite found while digging
quartz wren
nice!
pulsar folio
but I think that digging for minerals was largely a cover
what mine needs a reactor?
quartz wren
true true
i feel like the facility was there before the "breakout"
looking for one thing (whatever it may be) then found another
pulsar folio
my theory is they were doing cloning/supersoldier/weapons development experiments in the facility, and a variant on the prehistoric virus they had modified for use as a bioweapon escaped the lab, and overran the facility
quartz wren
maybe a rare resource of some sort
nothing ive seen or read so far suggest supersoldier expierimentation
i think the bigger and smaller creatures are depends on human atttributes
like the rock would be a giant and leonardo di caprio would be a screamer
pulsar folio
the rock isnt that tall, and it seems like most people shrink on infection
pulsar folio
I think it is fair to assume the really big ones are infected versions of early supersoldier experiments
quartz wren
what is your basis for the super soldier theory
i mean i havent even come across a vat
pulsar folio
what are HSUs?
quartz wren
ill be back in a hour and we will continue this wopwop add me as friend
pulsar folio
ok
atomic tree
HSU Stands for HydroStasisUnit.
atomic tree
Well, just wanted to clear that up as ! called them "Human Stasis Unit" 🙂
fiery summit
the use of a stasis unit is to keep people in a sort of sleep state
atomic tree
And we know that the A1 administrator is stored in one of them.
fiery summit
like in the scifi movies
atomic tree
Indeed
fiery summit
if they keep you asleep in a stasis unit, you can supposedly travel to a distant planet and when you "wake up" it's as if you only slept a few hours
atomic tree
Based on what?
pulsar folio
unless santonian purposefully let the sleepers take over
fiery summit
that's generally what a stasis unit is used for in science fiction
atomic tree
Bc he got infected?
pulsar folio
do we know that?
wouldnt they store him somewhere else, and keep him out of all risk of that?
like both the unfrozen admin, and stasis admin
atomic tree
Well, I mean, it was just speculation.
fiery summit
well no, we don't but that's the fun of a stasis unit, it puts you in a comatose state and people can wake you up once there is a cure
if he were to be infected that is
pulsar folio
hmm
maybe, but I think they would take the box somewhere else if someone important was in danger
fiery summit
and the reason for keeping him there is bc of the possibility of a breach in the stasis unit, allowing the disease or something like that to spread
pulsar folio
the text in the a1, is saying that the admin is in the box
but for the officer, they say the officers dna is needed
I think the admin is alive and healthy, while the officer isnt
fiery summit
both could be true, and you need a sample from both of them
which is possible without disturbing the person within the stasis unit
again, this is al science fiction and not based on real life off course 😛
I like this game for the atmosphere it creates and also that it makes you think, and also imagine about the lore of it all, without just handing it to you
that for me is a big win
I like to be teased by lore elements, but having to come up with it on my own, or by only getting little bits here and there
that is just fun times in my head coming up with a story
atomic tree
Speculation is good, but theories needs to have some kind of proof based on the materials we are presented 😛
fiery summit
true, there have to be certain facts that are given by the game at the right times and that is up to the devs
but I like to speculate and come up with stories by myself
not that I'm a very creative person, but I like it 😄
But there also needs to be proven facts and lore by the devs, so we can speculate further
lilac island
so I hve just played through C2 and failed right at the end while trying to go through orange ringed door. I'd found the dark and spikey enemies to not have distinguishing features like how the enemies in A1-B1-B2-C1 are. All the enemies in prior levels are all skin toned, in a way, and dead bodies scattered seem to be transforming into these pale creatures. Is it possible that these darker, faster, harder hitting enemies are not "infected" humans? And are instead "created" somehow by this strange contagion?
dull rapids
I just want to know what lore the devs have for the complex
frail pollen
The lore will be revealed in due time
lilac island
it's a small team taking on a lot of work
frail sand
Btw, when you break open a Charger, (big black bois), they have the internal structure of any normal human/infected
Plus, I don’t think it’s within the infection’s nature to make entirely new beings similar to normal infected humans, when said infected humans are a good template to work off of
lilac island
It must be that the farther down you go then the more the infection can change you
frail sand
Ye
the more resources available in the environment deeper down provide the materials required to make such variants
After all, you do get closer to the point of origin, plus there’s rarer materials further down anyways
lilac island
Very true. Whatever this facility may of held deep down must of been to make or study this infection or origin point. And if this origin point is more of a prisinor deep down in their cell then there'd need to be some form of food or sustanance. Possibly it broke out and has thrived off of the stored sustanance or materials
That or the infection spread to wherever it thrives off of. Like a plant moving to sun or an animal to food.
stone vine
Yeah and we can assume we get stronger enemies closer to the origin
So I would say whatever’s down there is veeeery important
weak halo
so... whats the lore about the game?
maiden heron
I just bought the game yesterday and I really want to know the lore too
deep parrot
I kind of doubt that the HSU's are clones or super soldiers, like you said, if they were so important why would they be just scattered all over the place.
real pewter
click on the pin comment
spark crow
Can also check out the Official Wiki for GTFO https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/GTFO_Wiki
faint pulsar
Need help on A1 only 2 of us need 2 more
weak halo
dude this is lore section
shell galleon
Srry I’m new to the whole lore thing kn gtfo what is the like main theory or main storyline I’ve only gotten past b1.
summer gale
Srry I’m new to the whole lore thing kn gtfo what is the like main theory or main storyline I’ve only gotten past b1.
@shell galleon If you haven't finished all missions of the current rundown, all the lore you need to know right now is on the pinned messages https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1D2mdwwY2EvieuvQ3twaa1X-OU-kaUCdhxr6hqIZRfqg/edit?usp=sharing
not that there's much else confirmed either
everything you'll read here other than most of what's on that documment is all just wishful thinking and us theorizing
shell galleon
@summer gale thanks.
spark crow
Everything is on/from the wiki as well (including stuff in that gtfo presentation), but yeah like BigBuffMccree said, part of the fun or some of the fun is going in blind finding clues
frail pollen
@surreal swift what do you mean the wiki isn't always accurate? @shut mountain and myself administrate the wiki and we work tirelessly to ensure the content on there is as accurate as possible. If you have examples feel free to message myself or Rav. Or if you are really into helping our wiki team let us know and we can invite you to a special wiki channel we have here.
earnest prairie
any one else realise it says hydrostatis instead of hydrostasis? is that intentional or a typo?
surreal swift
@earnest prairie where
frail pollen
that'd be a typo
atomic tree
Typo? I vouch for in-game deep lore message! THE ANSWER IS OUT THERE!
earnest prairie
@ruby lake
surreal swift
o yea maybe that
earnest prairie
ig now i see if i get yelled at
earnest prairie
lol thx
frail pollen
earnest prairie
but i cant type in there?
frail pollen
Take a look at the instructions at top of the channel
strange spade
I just bought the game and would like to join
atomic tree
Yo @strange spade try using the #how-to-matchmake & respective LFG channel 😄
surreal swift
nah the terminal calls it "hydrostasis unit"
atomic tree
I don't think they'll be mad at you for trying to help 😄
surreal swift
yea
earnest prairie
i listed it as low priority cause well, its literally just a typop
as far as bugs go thats like botttmmmmm
atomic tree
Literally unplayable! How can I become e-sports pro with these kind of unpolish?!? 😤
earnest prairie
lol
glacial pier
So the enemies are totally the evolution of coronavirus victims right
heavy snow
lol
surreal swift
obviously!!
spark crow
@surreal swift Yeah this wiki for GTFO is very accurate, hell the GTFO Story Presentation even takes info from the wiki as one of it's sources 😁
lilac island
my teachers be like WIKI NO good source
spark crow
For a good reason, should read up from multiple sources before deciding that, that's the truth, but that's more oriented for real life when we got conspiracies and political nonsense, especially when nations weaponize the information
atomic tree
I mean, I feel like I have a good grip of all this, I chat with some of the wiki people every now and then :P
summer gale
Wikipedia should never be the place where you search for info, you only read about it there
you should most definitely use the Wiki's sources
as your source of info
your teachers will thank you too
Wikipedia is for the most part, the tip of the iceberg, the info there will get you through middleschool projects at best
anywhere else just quoting wikipedia as your source is a bit no no
spark crow
Agree
summer gale
hence what I said, Wikipedia.
trail grove
Wikipedia and game wiki are different yeah
summer gale
corrected
spark crow
Game wikis are different, but we're just clearing the idea that wikis are inaccurate, this is a game wiki, not wikipedia for real life
lilac island
okok
trail grove
Game wikis are there own sources
lilac island
yep
summer gale
Game Wiki are my go to place for info on most games yeah
spark crow
Same
summer gale
specially runescape wiki
lilac island
hehe
grand river
I got a theory not sure if anyone said it yet but still
So what if the meteor that hit the planet all these years ago had some sort of parasite on it like dead space but more physical?
frail pollen
The people running this games wiki talk to the devs daily so we try and be as accurate as possible
lilac island
neat
spark crow
Which is awesome as that keeps the wiki up-do-date as much as it can (well some info will perhaps be hidden away, needing to be found by the players in-game)
Easter eggs for us lore/story lovers
atomic tree
I mean... The zone that got hit by the meteor had sucha force that the whole area was sterilized, so whatever was on that meteor have slim chances of being anything after impact
summer gale
well it's a plot device
so it's possible we can suspend belief to allow a parasite to survive it
atomic tree
Ofc, tho the Devs said it ain't no aliens.
glad crown
could just be an ancient virus that they managed to reanimate
spark crow
Perhaps, or it's a good location to make a facility that focuses on mining, but instead is a research facility to research for perhaps military weapons like weaponized diseases or viruses
glad crown
its not equipped to research diseases though
atomic tree
@glad crown as of yet, there is some old screenshots of labs and such
glad crown
ah ok, havnt seen those
spark crow
We don't know that, so far we know it's a complex in the crater
grand river
maybe the fog we see is a leak of some sort of virus
glad crown
like spores maybe?
grand river
yeah
atomic tree
Well, we know it is parasite, so not virus or spores
glad crown
ah
spark crow
And the prisoners' are wearing gas filters on them, so it's a sort of airborne parasite
atomic tree
Usually mines and deep areas have gas pockets and horrible air conditions
So gas wear is usually just a good idea
spark crow
True, I forgot it's confirmed for being a parasite, and deep underground can have little air and more CO2 content, as well as other more dangerous gases
grand river
yeah didn't take that in a count
atomic tree
Also what we see on C2 and the overall mutations on the sleepers ain't really "fungus" like.
grand river
more like stone spore type things right?
spark crow
Could also have H2S in the deeper level with the lack of Oxygen, and H2S is a highly dangerous gas that'll kill people with little to no amount of intake (and I talk few PPM, Parts Per Million)
grand river
we wont know for sure unless devs implement a breakable gasmask
atomic tree
Well, fungi spread via spores, that is what spores is: "Fungi Sperm"
Also: "The Chicxulub impactor had an estimated diameter of 11–81 kilometers (6.8–50.3 mi), and delivered an estimated energy of 21–921 billion Hiroshima A-bombs "
So the odds of anything being left at ground zero of that impact = small.
grand river
you know how when you kill a big female one and break the torso there are like little spore like things and almost each infected has them i think that could be some kind of ore that made the meteor?
grand river
oh okay
so they have eggs they have parasites and its possible that they produce spores?
jade linden
wrong ping
atomic tree
Again, spores is a fungus thing, parasite is an animal thing.
And just in case, pollen is a flower thing :P
grand river
okay im done with theories for today
atomic tree
Fair nuff, keep digging! Looking forward for what you'll find! 😋
warped ether
c2
lilac island
mycelium
lost stirrup
I've noticed that strikers seem to have distended stomachs and shooters don't which makes me wonder if the strikers use their large proboscis/tongue to implant the eggs that have pushed their stomachs out due to being stored in the abdominal region.
Also, all the strikers seem to be male while shooters are all female.
meager pecan
🧠
frail sand
now it does make sense on why the mutated the way they did
lost stirrup
Doing a little more theorizing here, the growths on the shooters' head could possibly be eggs as well, with them being the projectiles they hurl at us in order to infect us that way.
Picture of a shooter that better shows the feminine features and has a striker nearby for comparison.
frail sand
if you look closely, you can still see it’s terrified face from before it transformed
hehe
queen swan
@lost stirrup eggs?
frail sand
yey
If ye look further up in this chat, you will see a post about the parasitic eggs within the infected
nvm, got it right here
lost stirrup
@queen swan To be precise, eggs carrying the parasitic larvae that cause the infection and transformation into Sleepers.
frail sand
not confirmed to be parasitic worms
But is most likely either a parasite or a virus
lost stirrup
And it rode the meteor to Earth.
gaunt kernel
Guy the other day had a crazy idea.. that being "what if all the sleepers or positions you see them in are previously deceased player teams" big OOF on that one.
lost stirrup
They're more likely the former staff of the base.
summer gale
Guy the other day had a crazy idea.. that being "what if all the sleepers or positions you see them in are previously deceased player teams" big OOF on that one.
Lore wise, it seems to be past teams that haven't been able to complete the mission
before each mission on the rundown, you get to read a little log
and it usually ends up in everyone dying
and shots being fired
lost stirrup
Expendability.
frail sand
bc no-one else knows about it/what Unu just said
summer gale
we aren't even sure we are "random" prisoners yet
in fact , my bet is that we aren't prisoners per se. but we are being forced to compelte those missions by someone
queen swan
I mean bishop seems to be the only one that doesnt seem like a random prisoner
lost stirrup
I'd assume we're all death row/life sentence level inmates if we are that.
lost stirrup
Exactly.
lost stirrup
They'll likely kill you anyway.
queen swan
They'll?
lost stirrup
Ties up any lose ends.
queen swan
I feel like the warden is an AI
summer gale
though I like more the idea of the Warden entity grabbing these ex-soldiers and people related to whatever has knowledge and a connection to that place, and forcing them into going down
than simply goverment contractors or death row inmates
fresh juniper
laughs in Warden
summer gale
Bishop has some idea of what's going on
the Nigerian dude, Dauda seems to have some too
lost stirrup
Are those the guys we play as?
summer gale
yes Unu
also I don't think he owns Santonian, he is credited to making the website
he's the author
queen swan
i feel that bishop is the type of person to backstab the other 3
summer gale
oh yes
queen swan
i just want hackett to live
summer gale
he's creditted to being part of the Strategic Investors Group, and ```A strategic investors group is, by definition, a group of individuals who invest in something (e.g. a new type of technology or medicine), and if it ever becomes available or profitable, are allowed access to said type of technology, or earn enormous financial gains.
so it's possible he's going down to recover whatever tech is down there
under the guise of being forced
lost stirrup
Dauda seems just as likely considering how secretive he is.
queen swan
what are your thoughts on woods and hackett?
do you think they have any hidden agendas?
summer gale
I think the story goes something like Meteorite wipes out most life during the Santonian period. Some 70Million years after, humans find out that there's a virus/fungus/parasite that has some nice properties, maybe healing properties, can cure a handful of bad diseases, etc. They build a facility around it with labs and whatnot to keep digging around the crater and studying the thing. Obviously the company or corportation wants to profit off of it. Something goes terribly wrong and the infection proves to be fatal or mutate the hosts, now the company wants to save whatever is left of the original study and try to work out what went wrong
it's a terrible cliche'd storyline, but it works for 90% of all games/movies related to these subjects anyway
queen swan
I dont think you could keep this type of thing a secret
the worlds governments must know things went fubar
summer gale
do you think they have any hidden agendas?
I can imagine everyone there has some agenda honestly, if you pay attention to the little dialogue you have ingame. Straight from the A1 mission, you're already calling them Sleepers and you know how to sneak past/kill/evade everything. Implying you've done missions like that before
it also explains the kind of PTSD Dauda has on the trailer
saying he's seem those people before, etc
queen swan
actually never seen the trailer
summer gale
they could have very well made it so there's some small newbie dialogue between the characters to show that they don't have an idea of what they're doing
but they didn't do that, and to me seems like it's on purpose
they had an entire trailer filled with narration, so it probably isn't some budget issue
queen swan
also at the end when you complete the level
frail sand
Also, @queen swan , think of how we enter the facility, and then think of all the locked security doors
Then remember all the companies that are a part of this project.
They wouldn’t go public with something like “We lost a shit ton of money in a project that went FUBAR and killed everyone onsite”
queen swan
it has infection level: high
frail sand
Also, not always
queen swan
or low
frail sand
And some are unknown
queen swan
does it mean anything yet?
frail sand
well, it shows us that bc of the way we are stored via HSU, the stages of the infection are slowed
And considering it would only hinder a parasitic worm, probably not resetting the progress of whatever it does, it just seems more likely to be a virus, bc viruses can stay dormant within someone for a very long time
They don’t necessarily have to spread throughout the body immediately
open agate
im still putting my bets on parasitic spores
frail sand
it literally shares no similarities with a fungal infection
Or are ye just saying parasitic spores and not meaning fungal?
open agate
just parasitic spores , not fungal - i mean it's bviously a worm
queen swan
tapeworm
open agate
like could be "egglike" spores
frail sand
Okay, so think of it like this, if the worm is dormant, what happens when we get released from our HSU?
queen swan
what if it is like the waterbear
open agate
well considering how intelligent the worm seems i guess it either stays dormant so it can spread on one or the other way OR it'll go total apeshit. I think there is no way to tell on how it'll behave once on the loose
we have no clear time window on how long the whole infection process in the facility took
might've taken a few days , might have taken months or years
queen swan
if you look at the dead bodies
frail sand
If it is a worm, the only intelligence displayed is how they work together to take the players down
queen swan
they look rotten and somewhat been through the decomposing processes
open agate
still putting my bet on some kind of hivemind tbh
yeah roostle true butthat just tells us it's been like that for a while not how long the whole incident of infection took
queen swan
probably a few months(?)
frail sand
even then, radiation is present within the environment, so decomposition would take a lot longer than normal
open agate
Sometimes i honestly feel like they feed of radiation aswell tbh
hence the going apeshit on c1 and d1 when we do reactor stuff
summer gale
lots of bacteria and fungi do fee off radiation
frail sand
yes and no
summer gale
feed *
summer gale
even if they don't feed off from it, they are attracted to it
or maybe dislike it a lot
open agate
Idk also a hivemind intelligence seems pretty likely for me
only explantion for me to whats going on c2#s ceiling
frail sand
again, yes and no
summer gale
it's possible it's a tunnel for the parasite/whatever to pass through
and has free access to deeper parts of the facility
open agate
would you elaborate that vex? 😛
frail sand
On the yes and no for the ceiling?
open agate
yea
summer gale
If you pay attention to C1 , there's a lot fewer enemies and no enemy can spawn on the corridor directly before the nuclear reactor
so maybe it's hurtful to them
frail sand
Ok, so if it was a parasite, it would explain why an area was built, due to the fact it’s near a water source and seemingly, it would need a lot of bodies, therefore making it a nesting ground for more parasites
open agate
huh , arent all the enemies in c1 spawning at the actual spawn?
open agate
ah tru
summer gale
but it's a lot fewer of them, some rooms even empty, more than usual at least
open agate
so you think it's just some kind of organic mass acting as nesting area?
stable urchin
Hmm
open agate
@ vex ^^
frail sand
As the reason why it would disprove it, it kinda doesn’t make sense in the fact that this would take time and effort for the parasite to make, considering how large the actual thing is, and the fact it’s mass is also seemingly alive due to the pulsations and movement
summer gale
but you can kinda parallel the weird mass on the ceiling with the roots of a tree
frail sand
And the fact that a parasite would put time and effort into something it could let others do is more unbelievable than a fungal infection
summer gale
maybe they're used to carry stuff to the deeper bits
open agate
i quickly wana add how much i love this detective work - the last time i've seen a community so eager on investigating in the games story was just when dark souls 1 came out 😄
frail sand
i honestly can’t think of a parasite that would use it’s resources to make something more detrimental to itself than beneficial, considering the scarce amount of resources they can use
summer gale
you should've seen the great GTAV mystery @open agate
5 or 6 years
of us data mining
open agate
oh you mean the ghost woman stuff?
summer gale
the chilliad mystery
back when we wanted a jetpack and we thought there was this huge easter egg
open agate
how did it turn out? got smashed just like dark soul's pendant mystery? 😄
frail sand
Anyway, @open agate , are ye satisfied with my yes and no?
open agate
Kind of
summer gale
nah, rockstar fucked the mystery up and it was underwhelming af
they released the jetpack as DLC
..
6 years of people's time for a dlc
open agate
well - dark souls did the same thing -dev came out after years and told us the pendant does absolutely fuckall
summer gale
I never got into DS, but I did get into BloodBorne a lot
I like the gameplay mechanics a bit better than DS
open agate
totally agree
summer gale
a little bit faster paced too
open agate
also love the lovecraftian vibe
summer gale
yesss
so good
something about the old victorian england setting with this mindboogling monster
so good
open agate
@frail sand copnsidering it might be an alienb parasite however there might be different behavior then to what we know from earth
frail sand
A parasite is still a parasite, the behaviour may change but the nature of it would stay the same...
which is most likely spreading and surviving
So unless that giant growth is somehow beneficial to its own survival, then I don’t see this really being a parasite
open agate
a bit of the actual topic but i'm still wondering why the black guys in c2 mainly show up in areas that has the organic mass on the ceiling
apart from that one room
frail sand
The further down you go, the more resources that came from the crash site are more abundant, therefore more materials can be incorporated into the mutations, leading to more variations
stable urchin
to protect it?
open agate
well that would further proof how important the organic stuff is
frail sand
And I’m gonna refer back to when someone said that the organic stuff could’ve been birthing new bois
It would make more sense that if it was creating these Chargers, etc, there would already have to be infected within the mass, and just be spat out with a new coat
And now referring back to the Hivemind theory.
Unless this infection is literally the exact same as the Flood from Halo, except not fungal-like, then the hivemind theory wouldn’t make sense.
stable urchin
If it was a hive mind, waking up one room, would alert your presence to the whole complex tho
frail sand
So Orks from 40k then
the more of them there are nearby, the stronger and more intelligent they become
stable urchin
Hmmm
low nimbus
does that mean there's a queen at the bottom of the prison?
low nimbus
oh god what?
stable urchin
A queen
low nimbus
what you guys have never thought of that?
low nimbus
raid boss : ^)
low nimbus
it'd probably be your typical giant boss tho
shoot at the weakpoints of the queen
has specific attack patterns
while you fend of the minions coming towards you
I feel like there's so many possibilities with the lore tho
could be some bioweapon gone wrong
could be like stranger things where they accidentally opened a rift to another dimension
stable urchin
But like, then once you had killed the queen then what?
low nimbus
or could be a native alien species invading the facility
you know what happens with an ant colony once you kill the queen right?
unless it's some kind of hivemind they don't all die at once
but they won't be able to reproduce
the colony just ends up wandering and slowly dying out
that is if it doesn't intergrate itself with another colony
low nimbus
aww
I didn't think they were aliens from another planet invading us
I just think the game was pretty futuristic
so it's mankind establishing some kind of research facility on a different planet
stable urchin
And this all happens on earth too, from what i have heard
stable urchin
Hm?
low nimbus
you ever seen the show on netflix called love death and robots?
low nimbus
yeah it's a series of short episodes with different themes
stable urchin
Saw half of one of the episodes
low nimbus
the last episode was about some soviet expirement gone wrong
they basically tried to summon demons to their cause and it ended up backfiring
it's eerily similar to this
low nimbus
yeah it's called secret war
stable urchin
Most people believe it to be a parasite
Which i'm in on too kinda
Or something like that atleast
low nimbus
yeah that' what I think as well
it's obvious that these sleepers were once human
cause if you look closely you can actually see faces on them
stable urchin
And ears and other shit
low nimbus
either an airborn parasite or one that spreads by inflicting wounds
stable urchin
That we all know
low nimbus
would be cool if it was my initial thought
that it's some kind of queen
but this queen is one that's able to spread the parasite turning living beings around it into it's minions
kinda like mind control wasps and ant queens combined
stable urchin
idk about that chief
queen wound't need minions if she just wanted them to stand around, and sleep all day
low nimbus
I just think that a concept of a queen or some kind of leader would be really cool
well they could just be guards
because this minions of them are probably disposable
stable urchin
very shit guards then
low nimbus
so to save energy they just spend their times sleeping
you know there's probably my other theory
that it was some kind of bio expirement gone wrong
scientist probably using the prisoners as live test subjects
only for it to backfire
scp like with scientists expirementing on d-boys
stable urchin
I believe it was some drilling operation to begin with, they found that shit,
And maybe experimented on it, maybe tried to contain it to fail
Idk
low nimbus
would explain the giant hole
low nimbus
yeah that's probably why it became a prison in the first place
low nimbus
probably so the thing and tried to see if there was a way to weaponize it
and used the prisoners as test subjects
cause if it was a mining operation using "prisoners" as test subjects is the only reason I can think of for it being a prison
also quick question
are the creators of this game russian?
game seems russian
stable urchin
nope
There is no need to say the prisoners where there to begin with
Could easily be the whole warden shit, and the prisoner people came after it all went to shit
low nimbus
you think they sent prisoners to contain it?
cause honestly that was my initial thought when I first heard of a prison in this game
stable urchin
Again
low nimbus
that we were prisoners and we have to do these missions for our freedom
stable urchin
It's not a real prison
low nimbus
well yeah "prison"
stable urchin
It's more like idk
Yeah
Maybe not freedom
More like, to not die down in the hole, with the creepy naked infected weebs
stable urchin
Well yeah
low nimbus
seems pretty unnecessary
stable urchin
Why?
low nimbus
like going down into that shithole while not having the reward of freedom?
stable urchin
Because
low nimbus
as if you can force them to do that in the first place
stable urchin
They can send them down again
Well
When you escape, you get back in the HSU unit you where in to begin with
low nimbus
like to have someone go trough all the shit you'd need to get them an incentive
stable urchin
Only way to get up
low nimbus
probably like former mercenaries that committed warcrimes
stable urchin
They don't have a choice
low nimbus
if you told them hey if you don't wanna die do this shit
they'd probably just kill themselves anyways
seems like bad reasoning
well you don't have to play as prisoners anyways
stable urchin
The Warden has more "prisoners" to Replace them
low nimbus
maybe you're working for the government or just highly paid merceneraies
yeah like I said
stable urchin
Doesn't matter if they kill themselves
low nimbus
you can't have the reasoning of if you don't do this shit you die
like no prisoner is gonna go trough all that shit when they'll just resume their life in prison anyways
besides life in prison is as good as death anyways
low nimbus
no I'm talking about the fact the characters you play with could be prisoners being forced down to go
stable urchin
You get get dropped out of a HSU unit i believe
low nimbus
oh wait are you talking about the prisoners that they sent down that became sleepers?
stable urchin
You have me confused now
low nimbus
doubt they'll go down there without some incentive such as their freedom
saying that you'll have to risk your life for your life
frail sand
If they want to live, they have to do what the Warden says
stable urchin
Would you want to be killed by some unknown thing?
frail sand
They are already within their HSUs before anything, and are dropped in by the Warden, and the only way they can get out is by doing what the Warden says
stable urchin
yes
frail sand
They literally can’t choose to not go down
stable urchin
They are forced
frail sand
The incentive is that they get to live
stable urchin
And being the case, most people would chose to fight for their life
low nimbus
I'd rather be killed by that then be forced to go trough the entire facility and lose your mental sanity while getting the chance of being infected just go back to life in prison
frail sand
we won, but at what cost?
stable urchin
They are already infected tho
stable urchin
By living they get put in the HSU again, which props keeps the infection at bay
low nimbus
probably?
frail sand
You never know, all those victims may still be conscious and aware of what they’re doing but have no power themselves to do anything, leaving them in a never ending cycle of torment
And unless you yourself are driven to the point of suicide, you would want to live
And on the note of the HSU keeping the infection at bay...
Why would there be an infection level, if everyone has one parasitic worm within them?
And how would the progress of the worm be reversed?
I say that second part bc it’s likely they’ve been infected for some time, and depending on how much time they’ve been infected, an HSU isn’t going to be enough to suppress the infection
weak halo
so, how does cortex system work
low nimbus
if they're already infected
weak halo
i had a theory of some other guys controlling those prisoners through the cortex system