i dont think that hes warning himself about the override
#gtfo-lore
manic remnant
stone vine
yeah
manic remnant
it says warning 006
because you have 3 memory fails before that
is what i think those are
stone vine
well mem fails would be tryna gain acces to your neurolink
orchid basin
OH MY THOSE SNEAKY BASTARDS
it's a 4th wall break. We are overriding the minds of the characters. We are the ones that are doing the manual override when we launch the game.
orchid basin
God that makes so much sense
stone vine
o-O
wtff is goin on here
what are u on
how did u come up with that
im so
waht
orchid basin
I have big brain
manic remnant
big brain
stone vine
so clone theory
orchid basin
The warden is warning that hes lost control of the character
manic remnant
i dont think clone theory
stone vine
well not clone theory but similar
manic remnant
so then the bigger question is
are we actually other people controlling the players minds from somewhere else or are we them
if were overiding thier minds
stone vine
broooo
orchid basin
We cant be them if we're overriding them
manic remnant
BIG BRAIN
stone vine
yeah ur right
orchid basin
Wed have to physically be something else
manic remnant
well then who are we
stone vine
OMG YEAH
manic remnant
there whole bodie
manic remnant
i think we just get the "prisoner" ones
manic remnant
but damn them doing the 4th wall they got us
manic remnant
what thing?
manic remnant
?
manic remnant
porlbem where our hsu storage is
i dont think os
its based around the ring
so each area is probly A B C D
with multiple levels of pods maybe in rows called sections 1-10 maybe
manic remnant
so if we stick with this theory that we take over there minds
stone vine
our code is our steam code lol
so maybe yeah
honestly
thats so big brain of the devs if thats the case
orchid basin
Wait hold on a minute
stone vine
thatd be such a good idea
manic remnant
i think when we neuro link and the images and screen goes to blue and shows the monster then screams i think thats maybe something that the person we controlled saw
like we get a glimpse of that memory but we cant access the rest
or its lost
orchid basin
We're hacking into other people right? Are the people under santorian or are they under the warden?
manic remnant
warden
prisoners said to be
but one of them has a strong relation to this facility
orchid basin
Because now I'm confused whether we as the people controlling them are under the warden, or if the characters that we're playing are under the warseb
manic remnant
ill find where it is
orchid basin
Bishop
manic remnant
yes
orchid basin
Bc bishop is the author of the website of santorian
Wait does anyone have the game open rn?
manic remnant
uh
stone vine
no
manic remnant
give me 30 secs
stone vine
i can tho
manic remnant
open
orchid basin
Check the clothing on the character
stone vine
im in
orchid basin
Is there a symbol of the warden or santorian anywhere?
manic remnant
cant really tell
stone vine
yeah
orchid basin
Take a snapshot and send it plx
manic remnant
where
orchid basin
The middle of the chest
stone vine
on hackett
manic remnant
were supposed to be prisoners maybe were santonian ones
manic remnant
except for bishop
stone vine
thats the company
manic remnant
i think theres something more to him
stone vine
i thinkwe were researchers at some point
stone vine
we do
manic remnant
if we were researching it
manic remnant
awhile ago
manic remnant
what am i looking for
stone vine
listen to him
orchid basin
What if
stone vine
just listen to what he says
orchid basin
The warden is using the bodies but putting brains and basically an AI into it
And that's what the Hsus are
They're stored bodies so they can use them to send more people down to look for things
orchid basin
What if the hsus have copies of all 4 of the characters we play?
orchid basin
How so?
manic remnant
i didn't see anything that stuck out in the original trailer
stone vine
rlly
manic remnant
*hear
orchid basin
Those corpses might be different but the hsus might be specific people that look like the characters we play
manic remnant
thats probly because if were the same people we just keep neurolinking
orchid basin
You cant really tell what's in the hsu
manic remnant
lol
orchid basin
Bc our infection status is different each time you play right? So a different body is sent out at each time
manic remnant
yeah
stone vine
hah ttyl
manic remnant
big brains
orchid basin
So it would make sense that each hsu is another version of the body
But I'm sure we're the ones that are doing the manual override on them
orchid basin
Also has anyone tried emailing the santorian email?
orchid basin
I was thinking about trying it and see if it works
stone vine
what is it
orchid basin
Yeah theres an email on the website that was linked by the devs
stone vine
ill send a quick msg
manic remnant
ill send one
orchid basin
Hold on lemme grab it
glad falcon
i mean you can kinda tell what is in the HSU's
stone vine
humans
glad falcon
when you query them you get details of a different person each time
and you take dna
orchid basin
glad falcon
so i mean
orchid basin
Oh this is true
stone vine
ok
manic remnant
sent
orchid basin
Aight tell us if someone sends something back
surreal swift
idk if i missed context but the ppl u play as come from hsus
stone vine
holyyy shit
stone vine
what should I ask
surreal swift
but that back half is the same as the hsus in the complex
surreal swift
plus when u start a game u always see "hydrostasis unit" in front of u
orchid basin
Ask who the warden is?
@manic remnant we were probably bodies that were going to eventually be used to treat the virus and stuff then
That would make the most logical sense if they're stored in things like that
manic remnant
i think his whole dream speech is just remembering what happened last time he neurolinked to someone @stone vine
stone vine
maybe
stone vine
what should i ask the email
manic remnant
since we are allready infected at least a small percent
stone vine
idk whats a good question
orchid basin
Ask who the warden is and what he wants
manic remnant
and the hsu seems to halt the infection rate while inside of it
orchid basin
Bc it's a hydro stasis unit
manic remnant
so maybe there holding us for mass test subjects
manic remnant
were allready infected
orchid basin
Hydrostasis unit
orchid basin
Xd
manic remnant
and said what are you doing down in that facility
orchid basin
Maybe the devs will respond 👀
manic remnant
time will tell
orchid basin
I thought maybe itd give us an Easter egg or smn
manic remnant
^
orchid basin
I mean I cant have been the only one to find the email
manic remnant
i think we will just piece the lore slowly when more rundowns get ran
orchid basin
This is true
stone vine
soooooo
orchid basin
They got caught up in the html code I think
stone vine
also whats the website link
stone vine
thanks
manic remnant
so taking a few steps back polar its not a recent event
it took place a few years back the dev said in a video
orchid basin
Wait they said what took place
Whatever happened in the facility or us going down into it?
manic remnant
not what took place just that it took place a few years ago
and that the facility is filled with monsters
orchid basin
Yeah but are we in a different year? Say that happened in 2012 are we playing in 2012 or 2015?
Do you understand what I mean by that xd
orchid basin
Gotchu
manic remnant
i thought there was something close to it
orchid basin
Hmm
manic remnant
i take back what i said earlier
i miss heard
"the underground complex has been abandoned for many years and its been overrun by flesh-eating monsters
so now im not sure
but its post 2020 thats right
stone vine
yeah
manic remnant
i guess were scavengers
orchid basin
Well that's what santonian means
manic remnant
so that gets rid of the prisoner go
orchid basin
manic remnant
ok so scavenger prisoners then
orchid basin
Maybe?
manic remnant
idk that seems weird though
are we "prisoners" or are they calling us that but were really just lab rats
stone vine
yeah
slim mason
GTFO lore is an amazing read, but has anyone have a compilation of all these theories and stuffs from way past in a wiki or something that i could read? :o
blazing haven
Alright lets all be real,GTFO is coming to life.For Example: CORONA VIRUS.WE ARE DOOM
blazing haven
1
late oasis
Gamma23 get the melta
the heavy melta
fresh juniper
You're still spamming that?
fresh juniper
Please stop doing that. Both you and @stone vine
blazing haven
dry hinge
We are being used as prisoners to find out what the hell is going on
That's why we are called "Prisoners" and why these missions are called "Expeditions"
dull rapids
Why would the warden need to sacrifice people to get some old second hand item?
mint canopy
I think sleepers only react to organic life forms when it comes to sound, or are more senstive to it
because glow sticks don't alarm them and the hammar only when they don't kill them
doors don't affect them either
if there aren't alarms
frail sand
Doors do affect them, it’s just not as noticeable bc no-one spams the doors
lilac island
something something scp
pearl sparrow
I'm curious, Wikipedia says in the plot section that this is the result of the Chicxulub asteroid. Is that official?
lilac island
nope
polar furnace
Did anybody try to find out what these pictures from the intros of the "behind the scenes" videos on YT are?
like these ones
pearl sparrow
@stone vine can you provide the evidence?
lilac island
Fu it is offical
check the pins
for a slideshow of PROVEN things in the lroe right now
its the astroid that killed the dinos as well as the place being in chicxulub or whatever that area is
river sluice
mining dig site full of parasites, neat.
stone vine
Sure can
I'd say research facility undercover as a mine
:]
Also @pearl sparrow in the trailer there are the words Demon Tick
Chik means flea of tick
And xulib refers to a demon
That's the name of the asteroid chixulib
This is at 0:24 in the trailer hidden in the top right corner
And at 0:42 a list of coordinates which if u put into google maps takes you straight to the chixculub site
Bottom left corner of the screen
pearl sparrow
I just looked at the presentation, nice work. I'm curious about the whole "infection" thing. When you boot up the game it shows prisoner diagnostics, and one of them states infection. I assume these creatures were once human given their figures and humanoid faces (on those with a face, at least). And since it seems like that's the case, I wonder why the prisoners aren't turning into one of them? Considering prisoners are very exposed to the enviornment and even shows the status of infection, which varys from low to high
lost stirrup
The infection likely takes time to fully consume the infectee.
lilac island
Just like with infections from regular diseases, different people take varying amounts of time to be infected.
And not everyone survives the infection, and some may be resistant to it.
You see dead bodies of half-transformed former personnel in the complex, those are probably the ones who didn't survive the infection.
pearl sparrow
Makes sense
Just had an idea that perhaps the Warden has the ability to keep back the infection and that's why the prisoners try to carry out orders, just so they can survive when they make it out
lilac island
That's a possibility too
Maybe, like the virus in Dying Light, the Warden has a serum that can suppress the infection (not cure it), and the prisoners have to do what the Warden wants to get it.
Maybe.
pearl sparrow
Yeah, I think it's a viable theory for now, until we get more info.
stone vine
Well you know we are stored in HSU pods, rigjt
Right
And how we collect dna from one in A1
I'm assuming HSU slows down infection and doesn't allow it to reach uninfected people
We can assume there are human bodies in the HSUs because we know we are stored in one, and HSUs are what drop us down into the levels of the complex
split pivot
i dont think the wardeen has anything to cure or slow down the infection other than the hsu
split pivot
but the prisoner's are gonna just do the mission in hopes of living
stone vine
They are being sent down over and over due to what we think Is someone overriding warden
split pivot
i think that the HSU just kinda freezes the body and the infection with it
stone vine
Yes and prevents it from taking hold of the host
We also see a section 4 area b3 in the startup while the HSU scans us
There could be different sections of HSUs
Which just makes me believe warden was the emergency plan even more
But that's just a theory
A game theory
We may need the HSU dna in order to build up enough for a cure
Or something else if someone's reappy being greedy and overriding warden
Really
atomic tree
The important question tho:
Why Hydrostasis, not Cryostasis?
split pivot
wait, why do you think someone is overriding the warden?
atomic tree
Bc the boot up of the game says: "Manual Override"
split pivot
i believe that the warden has given all the prisoner's classes (RETIRED or not) and is running out of prisoner's so its using everyone it can and just overriding the protocol
ok, nvm i see now
i hadent seen that before
but what if that's the warden overriding the HSU to open when the HSU deems the prisoner unfit for use
lilac island
Honestly i'm starting to think the warden is us. The screen after death mentioning the Cortex interface is lost is quite peculiar. Anyone else thinking the same?
atomic tree
Is this another mindcontrol theory? 😛
lilac island
haha no no just something i thought of randomly but it would be an amazing twist
split pivot
that could be possible
lilac island
Considering we choose where the chars go A1 B1 C1 all that jazz
lilac island
Oh well, just a fun thought i had randomly
atomic tree
It is fine 😛 Just that one and "what about clones" is the most heard off theory I've encountered.
And it always have no evidence other than speculation 😄
lilac island
Well, that's fair enough
Anyway back to solo D1, bye everyone have an amazing time creating awesome lore possibilities!
hollow bough
I think the cortex probe thing could be how the warden keeps track of what they're doing and to prove they accomplished the task
not necessarily controlling them, but the warden could see what they see or something
atomic tree
Well, most level ends with a scan before extraction.
lilac island
"The Entity" is definitely tapped into them
hollow bough
I thought that was just the game's version of sending the hsu cage drop down, and them climbing in
the scan
atomic tree
@lilac island what do you mean by that?
lilac island
Isn't part of the lore they have been rehabilitated or brainwashed? i haven't looked at anything lore wise so just assuming based off what i have heard 🙂
atomic tree
Nah, nothing have ever hinted to that.
hollow bough
they are put in HSU's where they can no longer move/try to escape
and then reactivated and sent down
but I don't think there is any other brain control past that
lilac island
So you are telling me they are "Deactivated"?
lilac island
Fair enough
atomic tree
That was what I said, people do a lot of leaps based on the little info we have and then treats it as fact 😛 I also have -some- speculations, but at least I try to back it up with things we've seen 😛
lilac island
Well my spec is that we somehow are linked with "The Entity" (Warden) due to the Cortex interface screen upon death
so
hollow bough
I mean, that's how connecting the dots is done, insane ideas turn into more moderate ideas that connect to what we know so far
lilac island
^
hollow bough
always good to try and branch out far and see how that would be, then pull yourself back in to what actually could be
lilac island
Well since nothing huge lore wise has been hinted there is no right nor wrong
All for fun
hollow bough
some things are wrong, since it is confirmed not aliens or zombies that have taken over the complex
atomic tree
Dunno if we are linked, I just think the Cortex Interface and the NRV Probe gives us 1: The augmented HUD view. 2: It is a way to track vitals akin to the rig they have in Dead Space.
hollow bough
but y'know, you have room to imagine
atomic tree
And there is indeed things that are flat out wrong 😛
lilac island
I get AvP and Dead space vibes from this game and it is amazing
I think it's mutations you can see where they once were human
hollow bough
yeah, most likely an infection as a lot of people have said
hollow bough
brow?
lilac island
Eye brow
atomic tree
Parasitic infection, most likely not airborne, most likely not fungal.
lilac island
Fungal could make sense
atomic tree
No it couldn't
lilac island
Also i meant the brow region
hollow bough
so skull eye socket shape
lilac island
I suppose
atomic tree
C2 heavily shoots down the Fungi theory
hollow bough
airborne would mean it could easily escape the complex when they open it up to send us down
so I don't think it's airborne
still moon
Whats in C2?
atomic tree
Flesh celling.
hollow bough
go play it @still moon
lilac island
We don't know what has happen to the rest of the world
still moon
Ahhh I see! Also, I just need to find the time to xd
hollow bough
maybe it could be airborne, and they are sending these prisoners into the complex to ultimately find a cure, or way to stop it from the source?
lilac island
Obviously to locate the source, potentially try to weaponize it that is why The Warden is so picky with what it wants?
atomic tree
Most likely not airborne, we know it is a parasite, not a virus.
hollow bough
it still could be airborne though
hollow bough
but that would be a very strange way for parasites to transmit
atomic tree
Also end of game screen you have "Infection level:" that is correlated to how much damage you've received during the level. Making more likely to be a contact based infection like Scabies.
hollow bough
no it isn't, it's random atm
vitals is the only one based on in-game occurences
since when I played with guys, we all had different stats on our screens for infection level and the other things
vitals was the only consistent one
atomic tree
Pretty sure that Vitals is current HP at end of match.
atomic tree
But Infection is overall damage
hollow bough
not true sadly
it was different on some of our screens
I was high infection one guy's screen and low on mine
atomic tree
Oh well
lilac plinth
Does anyone here know if those tiny things inside their neck and right below that are eggs of some sort?
atomic tree
We know some of it are eggs
lilac plinth
The ones that look like the stuff all over the ranged enemies their faces
lilac island
i think hardened spores
lilac island
"parasite"
atomic tree
Parasite Eggs yes
lilac island
"infection"
lilac plinth
Maybe a parasite that needs more than one to take control?
frigid gust
Pretty sure it's airborn. Your characters are all wearing breathers
And you see stuff floating in the air in every level
lilac island
i say it has developed over a short time to become airborne
atomic tree
@frigid gust You are in a mining complex, you wanna wear mask, there is gas pockets and shit.
Like "stuff floating in the air" can be anything from mold to dust.
lilac island
potentially spores
frigid gust
Would also explain why there's so much damn fog
lilac island
I still wouldn't take any chances
frigid gust
lol
hollow bough
if it were a hivemind, then when you killed one, the hivemind would notice and alert the rest
so I don't think that has much merit
lilac plinth
It would be weird to have an egg form and a stage before that
atomic tree
Again, the creatures look like nothing afflicted by spores. They are mutated and their more developed form in C2 also looks even less like fungus.
lilac plinth
Do we know if the giant tentacle shooting outwards is the actual parasite btw?
Cuz that would be one way of laying eggs in prey
lilac island
Fuck knows it could be anything at this point
atomic tree
Well, I'd go what it looks like and it does not look like fungus 😛
lilac plinth
It would make sense to me that the thing attacking you is also the thing that infects
And since they seem to be laying eggs in their victims, the tentacle might be like a ranged facehugger
Chugging eggs in
hollow bough
it puzzles me though why you can do more damage to the head then if it is a parasite
wouldn't it make sense that the damage would be highest where the actual parasite lies?
atomic tree
Well, some people says the weak spot is their stomach
hollow bough
from actual in-game experience, the head always takes the most damage
lilac island
It does explode on impact sometimes
hollow bough
besides C2 guys
and if you don't half-charge at least on the head of the normal sleepers, then they can survive with no head
being explained by it being controlled by the parasite, not the brain
but why does the head take the most damage then?
confuses me a bit, anyone have any ideas?
atomic tree
Also this doesn't look very Fungus like 😛
lilac plinth
Honestly don't know enough about these creatures to tell you at this point
frigid gust
More alien than anything
lilac island
AVP
atomic tree
I love the detail of the hand, that gives it some size
hollow bough
it could be a brain infection instead of a parasite, just adapts to have a sencondary location for control of the body in the stomach area
so that if the head is blown off, it can still function
lilac plinth
Only thing I can think of is that the brain might be helpful in controlling the body
hollow bough
but the head is the most vital area for control
lilac plinth
But not essential
lilac plinth
Other than that, your guess is as good as mine
frigid gust
Could take over the nervous system. Then it'd be in the spine as well
hollow bough
true
atomic tree
I mean shooters is full of eggs, strikers have tooth hole. Not like there is much space for brains anymore 😛
lilac plinth
The spine is also a weak spot if the head is gone, no?
hollow bough
well, there are small brains in animals, and they can still function
they don't seem to have much coordination other than "ENEMY, CHARGE" or "ENEMY, SHOOT EM WITH LIGHT"
lilac plinth
The parasite could also be worm-like in the way that it has multiple hearts
hollow bough
so doesn't need a big brain
lilac plinth
Some are situated in the head, making it a weak spot
hollow bough
yeah, possibly
frigid gust
You only hear one heart thumping in them though
lilac plinth
Something like that maybe?
hollow bough
the main heart might be the one you hear
lilac plinth
One heart, two brains?
frigid gust
Repurposed
lilac plinth
It's not a real worm so it could have a lot of different things
I just meant to point out the principle
hollow bough
interesting chat, I am gonna look at the ama answers to see what I missed out on
stone vine
Looks very hentai like
This game is just hentai haven for people who dont know how to clear history
That's the lore
Yall are welcome for my ingenious ideas
pearl sparrow
I know the behind the scenes trailer they said "they aren't zombies or aliens," but the way he said it makes me feel like he was just describing designs. Considering this likely came from the Chicxulub impact I think we're looking at panspermia, although where the asteroid came from, and how microorganisms turned into what we see now is another problem entirely. But I don't think the models look like zombies nor alien. Alien is used more to describe something completley unfamiliar, yet the enemies we see in-game are familiar to us, just twisted
stone vine
Ye
normal ermine
I believe the intelligence is very hive mind like especially with how coordinated they are.
hollow bough
What do you mean by coordinated?
I don't see much coordination from the sleepers besides screaming for help and then attacking the players all at once the best they can
normal ermine
When there is less than three or four strikers they keep their distance until more come.
hollow bough
besides shooters staying back to use their ranged abilities, and to avoid their weakness of not being able to melee
normal ermine
It
hollow bough
I guess you can say that, I thought of it more as they are dodging your hits
but I can recall moments where it seemed like they waited, yeah
normal ermine
It's the little details.
hollow bough
yeah, maybe you're right, but even then that could be explained as a pack mentallity
the small sleepers know they are stronger in numbers
thus try to fight together instead of on their own
normal ermine
I like to compare it to the early stages of the Flood if I were to compare it.
hollow bough
I see, would be interesting to see that develop in their behavior
but the idea that there is an actual hivemind that controls all of them like the grave yard for the flood seems unrealistic
as if that were the case, the hivemind could alert to the others that one of its pawns have been killed
ruining the stealth
hollow bough
you think the hivemind gives basic orders like, group up, or attack, once the players are spotted?
doesn't keep track of the monster's vitals though
just hears the screams?
wide pewter
lilac island
Oh hey, I literally watched that movie yesterday lmao
normal ermine
@hollow bough Well that is a good question. We don't have enough evidence to actually support a hive mind intelligence.
hollow bough
yeah, just providing reasons why it probably isn't a hive mind
my bet is it being an infection that is trying to adapt and change more and more
or, well not try to, it just is
warm carbon
need 1
gloomy lotus
That does look a lot like a graboid tongue, lol. The graboid tongue is small but attached to a larger creature. So, the tongue in the trailer was huge, the monster is likely very big as well.
toxic wagon
from what I recall. they are humans taken over by a parasite
though. why is there like so many 7-8 foot tall humans there. 
toxic wagon
stone vine
Scout---|Long tendril-like appendages that form out of the back of its neck and are used to feel around for life- don’t care about movement unless in a very close radius-|Glow blue when aggressive|Female appearance|Reacts to feeling fully unturned life forms from their feelers| Attacks with melee when aggroed| Screams like a beluga whale when setting off| Aggroing other creatures can set it off| Releases a huge beam of blue light once it is set off|Guns can set it off| Shooting or melee to the head while c-foamed or releasing feelers kills it|Appears to look like a medium-sized Shooter| Rare| Doesn’t get alerted as easily as normal sleepers|close range|
Charger---|Has a weak point on its back or hitting its head from an angle|Long worm-like creatures travel through the veins of the charger|Charger is very spiky|Run faster than normal sleepers|Are stronger than normal sleepers|Cant run in circles|Located only near nests in C2|Reacts to sound, light, and human/ melee touch|Male appearance|Small bloatation on its intestine|Aggros red|Attacks close range|Charges into its enemy|To charge it stops abruptly, bends over, and then charges in a straight line| Head appears to be completely unrecognizable with spikes coming out of eyes, face, and shoulders|Armoured on everything accept its back|Guns can set it off|
Shadows|Can’t be seen without flashlight|Repeat striker/shooter animation when killed|
Not known to aggro or sleep (yet?)|Located in D1 near reactor|Only come out after reactor is turned off|No identified gender appearance|No known radius or reactants other than turning off the reactor|Maybe using the darkness without the reactor to camouflage(unconfirmed)|Â
Striker|Common|Weird mouth like appendage the forms from its mouth|Bloating around the middle area of its body|Close ranged attacks|Bloating looks like intestine|Radius spans out about 9-10 feet from its body|Reacts to sound, light, and human/ melee touch|Male body appearance|Aggros red|Body is covered in bumps, and its head has been split open with a huge mouth located inside the split|Many rows of sharp teeth within its mouth|Bends over to attack|Can still use its attack after having its head mutilated|Guns can set it off|
toxic wagon
stone vine
Shooter|common|Weird egg-like black cysts forming all over the skin| No bloating of any
sort|Long Ranged attacks|Shoots small balls of light from its head|Face is still visible but unrecognizable | Radius 9-10 ft|Reacts to sound light, and human/melee touch|Aggros red| Body appears normal other than the head containing cyst-like eggs and swelling along some parts of its body containing small cysts| Stays upright while attacking| Can still use attack after having its head mutilated|Guns can set it off|
Big Striker|Same build as a striker, just a lot bigger|Close Range attacks and far range|Uncommon|Huge amount of bloating near the middle of its body showing huge intestine|Will melee or attack with its mouth-like tongue to attack depending on range| Radius is 10 - 12 ft|Quite slow|Weak point is stomach downwards|Takes multiple people to take down|Reacts to sound, light, and human/melee touch|Male body appearance|aggros red|Can still function with most of its body completely gone|Guns can set it off|
Big shooter needs some changes on info so not gonna send it rn
toxic wagon
all I know is that shooters are females it seems
stone vine
Yep
Shooters, scouts, and big shooters
And strikers, shadows, big strikers, and chargers are male
toxic wagon
and the scouts being females makes me think there could be a queen possibly
or if they are going to give the parasite it's own form
stone vine
Yeah like the head of the parasite
The one that started it
The one at the farthest levels
stone vine
Oh I'm talking way further than D1
I'm talking atleast 4.3k ft down
Like the bottom of the crater
toxic wagon
<->
stone vine
Yeah probs pretty hard
toxic wagon
Like D but less resources?
stone vine
We can assume the deeper we go the harder it gets
toxic wagon
ye
toxic wagon
most likely a mix of current stuff and new enemies / consumables.
stone vine
Or maybe new stuff
toxic wagon
since there will still be some new players
stone vine
Entirely new things possibly
toxic wagon
yeah
toxic wagon
new enemies types
stone vine
I hope
stone vine
Yeahh that could be a high chance
toxic wagon
what if they make the other enemy types have shadows ability
stone vine
Yeah
We can assume more males than females as we go deeper
Because like mostly male employees
toxic wagon
yeh
toxic wagon
I doubt it
toxic wagon
doesnt seem like we'll get acid type enemies either
stone vine
We could
toxic wagon
but its possible
stone vine
From what I know these things adapt
Because they are all linked to their surroundings
toxic wagon
Charger from what I recall are a further form of the mutation
stone vine
Yes
toxic wagon
just like
stone vine
That's my exact point good sir
toxic wagon
imagine a armored Giant
toxic wagon
I'll be scared when they make scout tendrils go around corners/ go upwards
stone vine
Ohh.boy
If that happens I'm gonna scream all the time
Because like
Bro
I swear scouts come outta no where
toxic wagon
and like in the teaser. the tongues are able to reach out around corners
stone vine
Maybe
That could be a later developed scout
Or a striker even
Because they both have extendable appendages
Or something new
toxic wagon
I once had a giant keep doing it and it like stopped right in my face. saw the teeth on it and stuff
scary af
stone vine
Have you seen shooters faces
They have a fave
Face
Like a human face
Scariest shit wver
Ever
toxic wagon
never really noticed
toxic wagon
always just looked like a head riddled with egg looking things
stone vine
Nose still in tact too
Really nasty shit
Hope they add clothes in future updates
Lol
toxic wagon
just imagine if they had a enemy that could take over your teammates bodies and use them against you
stone vine
I
Woah
What
Thatd be so cool omg
Like it jumps into your mouth and starts using ur gun
And just like using you as a meat mech till you die
And then going after everyone else
toxic wagon
like if you got a parasite and needed to find a new consumable to rid of it
stone vine
Woah thatd be cool
stone vine
Yeah it would
But I think even without those things it'll be as hard
Just gets worse from here I guess
What if there was an enemy that could see movement
Like at all times
toxic wagon
I imagine they make it's vision be like a flash light
crude shale
they need to nerf the game when you play solo i get it that gtfo is focused on co-op but they really need to make it so you can play solo when your friends are at work lol
toxic wagon
more variety would be cool
stone vine
Yeah
toxic wagon
Solo is easier though in some levels
crude shale
not on the first i just tried three runs solo and its spawns like 15-20 enemis
lame cant finish that off ..
toxic wagon
A1 is like the easiest one to solo-
crude shale
i had three grenades' and i still couldn't finish the first room.. I have soloed the first level before but its ridiculous
toxic wagon
and tbh your accuracy matters a lot more if you're soloing
crude shale
acc dont mean crap when you have 20 dudes coming at you in a group xD
crude shale
lol
crude shale
im just saying for people who want a challenge but are unable to play with others at the time they need to make a easy mood that doesnt work towards the end game like a side campaign or something that is just melee for "killing" time
toxic wagon
well the game is still in alpha
stone vine
I just wanna see the dig site
toxic wagon
but I doubt they will add a difficulty setting
crude shale
yeah i know and that is why im not angry just saying it needs to be able to tweek it like the spawn rates for enemys up and down stuff like that
i would love a customization for the maps
crude shale
that will be a long time
stone vine
Eh
crude shale
give or take 5-10 months
stone vine
Yes
crude shale
lmao i havent been in highschool in 15 years
stone vine
O-O
toxic wagon
I'm just waiting for Markiplier to try to solo the other levels
stone vine
I
crude shale
he will
stone vine
Imma hop of yall got an early start tmr
toxic wagon
some of the things ingame. I learned from his vids tbh
toxic wagon
bye
crude shale
its mark he said he wouldnt go back and replay the western game to get the snake milker or something like that and he went back and played a 10 hour long game just to start over lol
toxic wagon
lol
Reminds me of a yt for a mobile game
yt: bruh this event is a money pull
also that yt: so I bought the event thats asking for like 250$
:/
crude shale
lol anyhow me is tired me go to bed to the soothing sounds of mark soloing a2 xD
have a nice day
night
whatever it is for you
toxic wagon
oof
atomic tree
Big lore reveal! It is in fact our mod Steve (and Steve and Steve and Steve and Steve.... ect. ect.) that is controlling the Warden! 😛
toxic wagon
Steve used shadow clone jutsu
normal ermine
Good to know that we have people interested to even make the attempt to figure this stuff out. 😆
Also can we all agree to refer the striker’s tongues as Graboids from here on out?
stable urchin
This place is filled to the prim with intelligent people
atomic tree
and me
normal ermine
Popping in every now and then to see what crazy ideas people come up with, and maybe pitch in some ideas as well.
native plaza
Its actually the future, clickers have taken over the world, the sleepers are just slacking instead of going to work, we are the monsters and our task is to teach them a lesson
Also, gotta go
normal ermine
Just to put this out their. As far as hive minds go the sleepers could be a Swarm Intelligence very similar to insect colonies.
atomic tree
I can approve of that. Don't like the "hivemind" take otherwise. If it was a hivemind why would not relentlessly send waves at us as soon we were noticed by anything?
normal ermine
No conscience intellect, just instinct. With this reasoning it is more sound.
tight fable
How do sleepers appear again after we clear the certain level?
Do they reproduce?
Do sleepers lay eggs?
lilac plinth
Pretty sure we canonically only do each level once
normal ermine
How many success expeditions are there compared to failed? The failed expeditions just help increase the sleeper population. Of course there will most likely be evidence to disprove this statement.
lilac plinth
I mean, even the failed ones most likely take down more than 4 sleepers
But I heard something about a creature that spawns more little ones somewhere
Maybe that's how enough to populate the complex are made
normal ermine
It is possible.
I wonder if we can do anything with the biomass in C2 to fit your spawning more sleepers without infecting other organisms.
mossy phoenix
Did y’all see the coordinates in the teaser trailer from 2017
native plaza
The crater?
glad falcon
is there a wiki anywhere with pictures of all the monsters?
white current
Based on the last post in #dev-leaks does this mean @weak rampart is the real Warden 🙂
Lol
fickle stream
can you add my rabbit as a final boss?
normal ermine
Patient Zero ^^
drowsy furnace
Hmm...
Ssssoo... anyone plan to run down the whole idea of the infections, the prisoners, and all that again?
normal ermine
Everything is just speculation at the moment.
drowsy furnace
Hmm... I see. I think I know something about the complex’s hsu’s
Don’t know if you guys solved it yet
normal ermine
A theory is that the infection is from a parasitic worm from a meteor that the complex is built on top of. Those that survive the mutation process is turned into what we call Sleepers. Those that don't are well... dead. The Warden is possibly an AI that sends these prisoners to collect what ever is required.
drowsy furnace
I think the HSU contains some of the santonian industries employees or the security members, which is why we needed to obtain dna samples of them to progress further downward
normal ermine
I mean we had huge discussions which I wish some of it was tagged.
summer gale
I think the HSU contains some of the santonian industries employees or the security members, which is why we needed to obtain dna samples of them to progress further downward
that is basically spelt on the intro message for one of the missions though
you need to collect ID's to unlock the doors
normal ermine
I always felt the reason to retrieve the dna samples is for biometric data for security.
drowsy furnace
Right. I think maybe the other hydrostasis units might contain other... santonian industry employees, maybe miners or researchers. Prolly a way for them to prolong their lifespan until they’re needed for something.
Any objections?
normal ermine
Again, everything is speculation.
summer gale
they're usually unpowered in a dark storage room
even the HSU's we do need seem to be old af
drowsy furnace
Hmm... so about the enemies. Why do you guys believe they stemmed from worms?
Or a form of parasite
summer gale
I still stick with Fungi mutated with a nice healthy dose of radiation
most of the proof for parasites is the demon tick from the trailer
and the fact that one of the devs said that the monster have eggs in their skin
or something
normal ermine
Because you can blow their heads off, and an extreme case their entire upper torso and still be alive
normal ermine
It is definitely alien because of the meteor
summer gale
it's alien just not aliens
drowsy furnace
You mean foreign?
normal ermine
Outer space dude.
drowsy furnace
Yeah I know that much
summer gale
any case, I think the leading theory is Meteorite brings parasitical alien lifeform , someone dugs it up after 90 million years
and the rest is what you see
it mutates and etc
normal ermine
Another piece of evidence you'll find is on the ceiling in C2
drowsy furnace
I haven’t checked it myself but I’ve seen... the mass
summer gale
which again, could still mean it's fungi in nature, many if not most fungi forms are parasitical in nature
normal ermine
Anyway, these sleepers have a hive mind intelligence based off of their coordination alone. And if it was fungal, how would it spread?
summer gale
it would also kinda help with the whole " we are all infected " thing we have going on
drowsy furnace
Anyways... I want to go into details about how the infection or whatever creates the enemies
summer gale
but they don't have hive minds
they need visual or sound interaction with each other
normal ermine
Not a collective consciousness, it is a Swarm Intellect. Like ants
summer gale
fungal would spread through the air
drowsy furnace
Are there patrollers in ant colonies?
normal ermine
I'm just giving examples to give context.
drowsy furnace
Hmm... it could be a parasitic fungi that affects humans and makes them behave like a swarm collective or whatever
summer gale
well whatever it is, it's implied that it caused the mass extinction of the dinossaurs of that era
drowsy furnace
Right...
normal ermine
I believe how the infection process goes is that any unnecessary organs are repurposed into other appendages. It could be a violent transformation.
summer gale
yup yup
normal ermine
Very astute
summer gale
and the crate in real life is thought to have been the catalyst of the extinction
hence the implication
it could very well be Harmony
they do not need a brain to function
or major organs even
parasitical infection fits very well into that
drowsy furnace
Well... the heart is a major organ
normal ermine
As for fungi, it would be interesting that if they had a nest which could be filled with spores.
drowsy furnace
Is the heart relocated somewhere else?
summer gale
yeah @normal ermine , maybe next rundown we can find a bit more
if it's parasitical, it's possible that they don't have heart altogether
they would act as a vascular system
drowsy furnace
Hmm... now that you mention that Lucas
summer gale
they obviously don't need a conscience to do their thing, so something else has to be doing the instinct bit for them
drowsy furnace
Would any of that explain that... ahem groin area?
drowsy furnace
Well I’ve heard it’s a weak spot for those melee guys
summer gale
might just be a artistic liberty to make the player more grossed out
Well I’ve heard it’s a weak spot for those melee guys
I have seen rumors that the chest and groin bits are weaker than the head, but it's just rumors
Headshots with snipers or revolvers are still a one hit kill on most sleepers
and won't do it on anywhere else
normal ermine
Here is an odd ball question. What if they used their heart as a sensory organ?
drowsy furnace
It would probably connect with their sense of hearing and touch...
I... don’t know about this but I think these guys are actually blind
normal ermine
I remember someone mention that they can see with their heartbeats. I didn't think much of it till now.
summer gale
they seem to be @drowsy furnace
drowsy furnace
I mean why do you guys think they use clicking?
normal ermine
Visually blind to be specific
summer gale
not clicking
specifically the heart beats
it might be super electrosensitive, fish do that
summer gale
If I am not mistaken, lobsters and some bacteria can sense other living beings from electromagnetic fields
and multiple others use those sense for navigation
it could be something similar
drowsy furnace
... hmm... does any of that explain their reaction towards flashlights?
Keyword being flashlights
normal ermine
Well technically light is visible electromagnetic wave
summer gale
but in world explanation would go something like
they're used to being in a usually dimly lit room
so a flashlight is too much of an aggression to the senses
same thing with noises, you can open a gate next to one of them, and they won't bat an eye
but take one step and they'll feel it
drowsy furnace
Hmm... well, I wanted to discuss about the different types of enemies
summer gale
I reckon it's for gameplay reasons, you can't aggro an entire room every time you open a door, or else the game is terrible
don't ask about shadow monsters, we have no idea
drowsy furnace
Like the strikers, big strikers, scouts, bulls, ranged, big earned, and shadows
summer gale
I think they're hallucinations to be honest
they don't fit any kind of theory
fungal, bacterial, viral, parasitical
other than aliens
normal ermine
The best explanation is that the mutation process varies in results.
summer gale
but it seems they do bleed
when you shoot them
so it's not like they're made out of invisible or translucid stuff
it's just the outer layer
normal ermine
These creatures are tangible, even the shadow entities.
drowsy furnace
Hmm...
I think the infection gives them some sort of... way for the shadows to refract light?
summer gale
it's very possible the infection mutated with whatever it touches, the spiky bois are basically a human shaped rhino beetle