#gtfo-lore

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last saffron
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(which for now is a gameplay thing because we really have only what, 5 types right now with more on the way)

lunar roost
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Yup

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I wonder what the deepest one is gonna be like. Probably a roided monster XD

last saffron
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the complex doesnt really show signs of mass struggle, theres a few knocked down walls here and there, a door bashed beyond usability..and thats it. For most part everything is as if people just vanished

lunar roost
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Though i'm wondering how they're gonna incorporate the new ones without introducing something new or having to do something specific with the equipment you already have.

last saffron
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we dont really have all environments/gear in yet too, theres an entire system planned which lets you frankenstein your guns as ludvig describes it

lunar roost
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Like for the c foam launcher, would be cool to be able to use those against the invisible ones but if you wanna kill them you have to use a bio tracker and a gun.

last saffron
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Early Access release introduced refinery subcomplex

lunar roost
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Oooh, that's gonna be awesome!

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Can't wait. Gonna have tons of fun with the game when much more comes to it.

last saffron
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just a little patience needed, 10cc is only 9 devs after all

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at least EA brought much needed resources, judging by how ludvig responded when i asked him about how they feel about the reception

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before the game was entirely self funded for 3 or so years it in development

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or 4

lunar roost
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Ya, the struggle

ember hull
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So, I'm trying to understand something about the story. Are we characters on the surface that upload our minds into the prisoner bodies to send down there?

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Like, when you die, it says the uplink has been lost.

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And that text that pops up when starting the game kinda hints at this too.

vagrant lynx
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as we understand it....

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the warden puts the cortex interface in our heads, then sends us down... losing connection is death basically

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i dont think theres anything about us being "uploaded"

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yet

autumn bridge
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maybe they watch us an when we die the cortex interface discconects

proper olive
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What do the surface transmissions mean?

opaque pond
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sub surface

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from the complex

vagrant lynx
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1 of two things, the last words of the team before you, or my favorite, the transmissions of another team on another floor as you go by

ember forum
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i think the cortex interface is how you get a hud

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and how the warden tracks you, and sends you info

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i thought it might also be transmissions from the actual events that happened there

vagrant lynx
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i hope its multiple teams... imagine doing a level and finding out another team has screwed you over to get thier mission movong forward... and you have to endure and continue

ember forum
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oml

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oml oml oml

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das good

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also

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i do think

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lockdowns might be an interesting mechanic

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i do hope terminals become more usefull too

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a map where doors need to opened by a terminal user too

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aaa

wanton bloom
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does it lag if i go to other regions?

vagrant lynx
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it can

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its p2p networking

autumn bridge
vagrant lynx
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kite kite kite.

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gl

autumn bridge
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has anyone done this yet

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because i looked it up and no one has of my knowledge

vagrant lynx
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done what?

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someone has soloed all levels but c1

autumn bridge
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DONE ZONE 100

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why caps

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fuck me

vagrant lynx
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nice xfil

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congrats

autumn bridge
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closer exit i guess

lilac island
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I just did c2

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and finished it

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with 3 people

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its easy

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just use normal shotgun

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it 1 shots bhead

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s

cerulean forum
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Well its not

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But ok

real pewter
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C2 is just long for me

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not that hard

lilac island
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if you trigger 0 scouts

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you win

cerulean forum
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If you dont die you win

static dune
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not really

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we are still in prison

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or at least prisoners

cerulean forum
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we are still going back down again

lilac island
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roogini you finished them all tho

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i used shotgun

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normal

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and it saved me so many times

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1 shot close to medium is a kill

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you can hit multiple with 1 shot

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then spray msg killing bheads

cerulean forum
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yes

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you can

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lemme guess

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You used the cheezy strat

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of putting turrets on the otherside of closed doors

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Because yes its managable but Its still not easy

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A1 B1 are easy the rest get progressivly harder

lilac island
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how is that a cheezy strat?

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and you mean normal doors right?

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cause n owe didnt

cerulean forum
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and it is because its abusing how the mechanics are

lilac island
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how so?

cerulean forum
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enemys dont attacki turrets

lilac island
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yeah they never do?

cerulean forum
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so the enemys jsut stand at the door beating it down

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while the turrets Shoot the fuck out of them

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erases hordes easily

lilac island
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uh

cerulean forum
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and its getting fixed

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because its a exploit

lilac island
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enemies can kill turrets soon?

cerulean forum
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No idea how

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but its getting fixed

lilac island
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idk how that is an exploit tho

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but no we didnt do it

cerulean forum
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its exploiting how the game works

lilac island
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🤔

cerulean forum
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because theres no downside to doing that strat

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decreases the dificulty Drasticly

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makes hordes Just easy as fuck

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and that is one of the main dificultys

real pewter
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@lilac island we aggro every scouts

lilac island
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how tf would they fix that

cerulean forum
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they are going to fix it

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maybe make it so turrets only work when ur in the same room

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make it so turrets get attacked by enemys

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and maybe break or then proceed to malfunction

lilac island
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that would make mines 1005% better

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then just

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mine outside a door

cerulean forum
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yea

lilac island
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then face a turret to the door

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bam easy wave

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but i do say

cerulean forum
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But a mine cant wipeout a horde

real pewter
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i know that exploit

lilac island
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turrets are a bit too good

real pewter
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saw a dude done that in D1

cerulean forum
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^

lilac island
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everyone does it

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but it will be itneresting to see meta changes

cerulean forum
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the more I play the more common it is

lilac island
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eyah cause its simple

cerulean forum
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well its not META

lilac island
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and very good

cerulean forum
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its exploiting

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Meta is the pistol/shotgun combo due to their high ammo capacity

lilac island
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which shotty

cerulean forum
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even then I dont use them I just use what i want

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combat shotty

lilac island
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ah

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i usally do smg

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  • normal shotty
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or

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revolver

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combat shotty is good

cerulean forum
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i love the revi

lilac island
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but i think normal shotty is just amazing

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for bheads

cerulean forum
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1 shots everything with a headshot besides goliaths and scouts

lilac island
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Chads*

cerulean forum
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also spikey bois sorry

lilac island
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no

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they called bheads

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black heads

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bheads for short

last saffron
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they have a name in the files, and the first time someone called them Bullrush Strikers

lilac island
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i like calling them black heads

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easy to remeber

bitter lance
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what is NRV probe reaction tho

carmine oyster
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oh no no no

dull moat
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Look at all those pimples

real pewter
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look at all these chickens

regal pumice
eager vale
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ngl

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i wish the ammo pools were bigger

regal pumice
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Specially for the MG

real pewter
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no

eager vale
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I can deal with it if the weapons did more damage to balance the low pools currently, but if it stays as it is then i'd prefer more ammunition

regal pumice
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Damage is great already

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But I’m missing out on the Taka-Taka!

real pewter
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Tadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadada

regal pumice
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I want the guns to be like the ones in Star-Troopers vs Zergs

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Gets bigger

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But shoots peanuts

eager vale
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it sure as shit dont feel damaging, but I guess that's the feedback i get using them

regal pumice
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If you hit vital points

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They pop

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Drastically lowering their health

eager vale
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though seeing the assault rifle have a big fuckoff drum mag with only a piddly 30 rounds low key pisses me off

regal pumice
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Maybe the bullets are .50

real pewter
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they have crit damage

eager vale
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Considering the big ol' AR gets outdone damage wise by the pistol I dont think that it's a .50

last saffron
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how do we always go from lore to bloody game balancing

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almost everyday

real pewter
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"lore"

eager vale
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because there's only so much to speculate on

real pewter
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wait for the next rundown for more

last saffron
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if you wanna talk about balancing, #general #gtfo-chat and their amba versions are the best for it. theres also suggestions if you feel like making one.

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(just make sure to pop said suggestion in #bug-reporting otherwise the mods will remove it so it doesnt clog the channels up)

real pewter
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What is NRV in the prisoner state?

last saffron
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best guess is nerve probe, since the stats for most part use short abbreviations

real pewter
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oh

last saffron
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it could be essentially checking if your nerve endings function right or not, since without them you wouldnt be really operating right

real pewter
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interesting

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and how deep you guys are in with the lore

last saffron
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we discussed...from the hole spikes to C2 and D1/Surface platform/HSU/Reactors/Deviants

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almost every aspect

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the only thing we didnt as far as i know is the refinery subcomplex, aka B

real pewter
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B?

last saffron
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the second set of levels

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B1/2

real pewter
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oh

regal pumice
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Do we finally agree that the reactor is the reason why the hole was created?

bitter lance
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if you need more ammo youre arent hitting enough shots lmayo

last saffron
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reactor cant be the cause of the hole, especially considering how far it is from it

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if it had a meltdown, the core would well, melt the floor down. it wouldnt cause spikes to jut up and certainly wouldnt go upwards

opaque pond
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And we'd be dead in minutes based on what garbage we're wearing

last saffron
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probably faster considering Elephants Foot, the most radioactive object on earth, could deliver a lethal dose of radiation in five minutes

opaque pond
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I'm going with "giant tentacle "

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Always bet on the giant tentacle

onyx egret
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Why do the things have their fingers and toes cut off anyway

last saffron
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from what i saw the toes arent gone, just fused together

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strikers could bite their fingers by accident, shooters miss pretty much the entire palm

opaque pond
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Strikers most likely chewed their own fingers off

onyx egret
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And they all look like their sitting in prayer

opaque pond
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Since their tongues and shooting ability have become their primary form of offense, upper limbs have become somewhat vestigial

last saffron
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its more in lines of holding onto their heads, or what remains of their heads

opaque pond
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When people are distressed, they unconsciously bring their hands to their face

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This is what remains, pun intended

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And yes, many of the prostrated sleepers and corpses do seem to be doing so in either a pleading manner or in supplication

bitter lance
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Another thing is for something in the body to be glowing that hot is it the body temperature that is raised what does the damage to the prisoners when it contacts or both?

ionic hazel
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Could be this was a subterranean research lab and prisoners were used as test subjects. Something went wrong maybe and they escaped. Trying to find these rare artifacts and DNA samples leads me to believe that heavy research was being done... and the wardens benefactors are demanding progress so hes getting desperate.

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These sleepers are former prisoners... the cause though.... thats the real question.

last saffron
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bioluminescence doesnt really produce much heat, the glowth comes from their "tongues" seemingly

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i doubt the entire facility personnel were prisoners, theres also barely any signs of fighting outside from a few knocked walls and broken doors. the place for most part is untouched

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you can also find their uniforms scattered about

ionic hazel
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Good point.

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I just wonder what caused them to ‘transform’

bitter lance
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I didn't see it as bioluminescent I saw it more of boiling blood at the end of the "tongues"

opaque pond
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Imagine a parasitic outbreak that has relatively slow development time in a massive facility. You see people around you acting a little strange, but not enough to alarm.

last saffron
stable juniper
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There might be another symptom to the pathogen. They are all naked.
The pathogen may induce a fever maybe or skin irritation maybe.

vagrant lynx
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or they wiggled out

stable juniper
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Wiggled out of their panties? Unlikely I think

vagrant lynx
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ripped and tear like any animal

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that is still assuming its a parsite infection, host take over thingy

stable juniper
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Those things are clearly of human origin. Either that or it's something mimicking humans in some ways.

vagrant lynx
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we haven't seen transformation. only signs of something

round juniper
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i agree with they tearing cloth off by themself. because cloth would hinder their detection.

vagrant lynx
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its the same thing has dogs with boots on in the winter try to get them off at first

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its not natural for them

stable juniper
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@round juniper what do you mean?

vagrant lynx
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he means they'd try to get them off

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the big question is how did this start

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who was patient zero

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-boss fight incoming-

round juniper
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i mean they detect thing such as light by their skin (or so i think) and cloth will hinder them kinda like if you use something to cover your nose or your ear, it will make it harder to smell or hear.

stable juniper
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Hum sorry what do you mean by "cloth would hinder their detection"?

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Oh ok

round juniper
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sorry if my english suck

vagrant lynx
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he means clothes

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if thier skin can detect light, clothing would block that

stable juniper
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From what I've seen you can illuminate much of their body's without alerting them. A particularly sensible area seem to be the throat. Didn't thought about that's why I was confused. Don't worry your English's fine.

vagrant lynx
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i think its more about exposure time than locations on body

stable juniper
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I might have to recheck that

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Hey dru what is your hypothesis for this outbreak ?

vagrant lynx
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i can't imagine they've programmed a body like that

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my thoughts??

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oh uh

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i think its not because of experiment's, i think we opened a cave deep down, found them from the metor fragments, since they were the dark, the noise and light woke them

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they attacked and spread out before they were contained

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thats why the facility is in lockdown

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thats why it appears that no one escaped

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as for the partially mutated or "something odd" bodies, it could be inserting baby parasites into bodies, or it could be something else released ... some of the bodies are in odd positions and dont appesr to be under attack, rather hiding or in pain

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as for the explosion in the shaft going up, either its the gas pressure from opening a sealed cave, a reactor blew, or we haven't seen the evidence yet

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-note- on the drop down, you can see what appears to be blood pools on the "door fins"

stable juniper
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Interesting. I'd like to take a look at the deceased. Haven't been able to pass the first alarm door yet.

vagrant lynx
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some are down in a sorta prayer position on thier knees with their face touching the floor and their hands covering thier head...

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@last saffron arch do you have a photo of dead bodies?

lilac island
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Out of context, "do you have a photo of dead bodies." answered by "a few yes" is hilarious

vagrant lynx
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@last saffron ty

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sadly the one i mentioned it wasnt there

stable juniper
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Thanks a lot.

last saffron
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everyone has skeletons in their closets

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the second pic has the body youre referring to, it just has another ontop of it

vagrant lynx
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hard to see on my phone :/

last saffron
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the crosshair is directly on it

stable juniper
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Do you remember if it has bruises or signs of injury? It's kinda hard to distinguish.

vagrant lynx
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not that i saw. just pale skin like the others, implying like " whats happening to me"

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with his body language

stoic rock
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from a biological point of view, i feel that its a sort of parasitic infection that deforms them and takes over the mind and mutates the body as what a virus does to its DNA. However the human conscious is still there, from playing A1 and B1 the body language is similar to a human in distress.

stable juniper
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Strangest thing of all. Initially I thought they'd have bruises and were trampled down.

stoic rock
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Kinda like how cordyceps takes over ant bodies

stable juniper
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My hypothesis is close to that

last saffron
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the damage on the bodies, if the body isnt ripped to shreds, is mainly swelling and the splithead syndrome as i call it

stoic rock
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^

last saffron
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you can see it on the third picture

stoic rock
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Indeed

opaque pond
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Orifice eruptions

last saffron
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everyone in HSU have it but i think its just to give a silhouette that someone is inside

stable juniper
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The Last one seems to be turning to some sort of biomass.

vagrant lynx
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eruptions could be pressure changes

last saffron
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hes more of a midway to becoming a striker, they have similar gut bloat (except it just guts so stomach probably ruptures) with the head split starting where striker jaws begin

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the only corpses not having a head split are the ones curled up

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instead they have bumps

vagrant lynx
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honestly i know i said it wasn't experiments but... the HSU stuff is suspicious

last saffron
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kinda like what North had before being changed into..woods i think

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ill post in a second

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just need to crop it

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they have these, a bit smaller and more numerous

vagrant lynx
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what are we looking at?

stable juniper
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A prisoner

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Right?

vagrant lynx
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a player?

stable juniper
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I think so

vagrant lynx
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again thou. how is the infection etc spread? is it even contagious

stable juniper
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In the menu it is stated that the infection level of the prisoner (your character) is high therefore retirement is recommended.

last saffron
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this was North

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an early playable character which then got turned into woods

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i dont remember who exactly

vagrant lynx
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infection could be other contaminates thou

last saffron
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either D0c or one of the mods told me, i just have bad memory

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the infection stat along others is random on each start up

vagrant lynx
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for example,if you were irradiated, makes it easier for you to get infection

stable juniper
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Oh OK, I've always seen infection as high XD

last saffron
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sometimes it says unknown

stable juniper
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Interesting

vagrant lynx
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another theory, could be exposure during each mission, on purpose

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to test how the infection starts, matures and spreads

stable juniper
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My whole hypothesis on this would be a parasite that enters the mouth of its victim. Burrows itself in the cervical vertebrae to get access to the spinal cord. It releases a virus in the body,to help reshape it to what the parasite needs. The vector of infection could be those "toothy whiplashy tongues"
When the sleepers are not alerted the human body is very much alive. But the parasite is dormant, conserving energy.
No one escaped because the carriers run like normal humans, and can use their to infect prey from afar.

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They also seem to be very strong most probably because the parasite doesn't care about breaking the meat suit it's in

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And as you may know your muscles don't work at 100% power. Unless your life or the one of a loved one is threatened.

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Scouts are basically sentinels for the colony.

thorny venture
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Sounds somewhat solid.

stable juniper
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I don't know

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Things don't make much sense

thorny venture
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no one knows, except for the devs. All we can do is speculate.

vagrant lynx
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will find out more on the next run down

stable juniper
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Those intact bodies are "troubling" and don't even get addressed in my theory. Maybe they are immune to the virus but still affected by the parasite

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The biomass too

vagrant lynx
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or they died befofe finishing the transformation

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or arent viable hosts

thorny venture
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Like a kill command if the parasite can't make the host viable.

stable juniper
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I dont think it would work this way

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If I had to design those things the first infecteds would be asymptomatic carriers

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I don't think a parasite like this would care about having the best host.

opaque pond
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Stronger immune system can throw a wrench in the works

stable juniper
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Some immune system might respond with higher fever to try to kill off the infection. Might be a reason why they are all naked.

vagrant lynx
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maybe the infection causes a sexy problem: sexlexia?

stable juniper
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And those stronger immune system might just kill the host off or Incapacitate him.

vagrant lynx
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😘 😋

stable juniper
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👌

stable juniper
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The long "tongue" might also be a part of a mutated Intestine, might justify the swollen intestine as part of it is repurposed as muscles to "spit" the upper part at high speed.

vagrant lynx
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now thats --- indigestion

opaque pond
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Outdigestion

stable juniper
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Worst intestinal cramps ever

bitter lance
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im just wondering what nrv probe reaction is

glad shore
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Nerve probe reaction. Most likely, and this may just be me, but I think they have to inject the cortex interface each and every time they send you down. It’s like they take a needle, put it at the base of the skull, and inject some sort of liquid in or something, maybe nanites for all we know, and those nanites then congregate around the nervous system of the brain, on the cortex section, to provide feedback.

bitter lance
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yea the injection is what causes the scream

stable juniper
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I thought the prisoners were remotely controlled by someone else

vagrant lynx
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naw

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just monitored

glad shore
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We think, at least.

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Reason I say that is that we don't really have much context on why the cortex injection is required.

vagrant lynx
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hell we dont get much context on anything.

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for all we know it it could be evil unicorns from the 5th dimension

glad shore
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Oh god what have you done the memes are going to be everywhere now.

vagrant lynx
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right?

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like this is the work of leprechauns

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small creatures who side step alot

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and violently protect "thier gold"

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only thing missing is green

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which is probably the color of vomit before someone turns...

ember forum
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@vagrant lynx

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wanna give D1 a spin?

vagrant lynx
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i really do, but im not home till next week... visiting my folks till then

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teapped on my phone here for now

ember forum
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okee

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perhaps we can play then ^^

vagrant lynx
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@ember forum next week :)

ember forum
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ye ^^

languid walrus
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What influences mental status?

vagrant lynx
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nothing for now

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random

lunar roost
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You sure? Someone should probably test out if it really is random.

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Would take forever though i would assume

opaque pond
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I believe all you need to do it ask everyone else what the statuses say for each player

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I don't believe they are the same

full shard
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i think the core injection is more like that movie

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where the kids control the people in wars like a video game

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i think it was called gamer

slender linden
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.

full shard
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therefore we are using convicts like our own meat puppets

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at least thats how i see it

last saffron
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i tested their randomness, the two screens i posted are taken back to back

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@lunar roost

young raptor
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I agree

last saffron
young raptor
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people are using convicts for missions by taking control of their minds and bodies

last saffron
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if you were piloting a meat puppet it wouldnt really display personality, theres no need to.

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also letting someone like Woods with such stuff is...not exactly a good idea

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"Woods has found God, but not redemption. Redemption he believes he has to earn while trapped in The Complex. In his mind, it's Purgatory.„
~ Simon Viklund

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theres also the fact that dauda is nigerian

elfin ember
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that's cool...

lilac island
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i think

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its more of a thing that they are forced to do this

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by a higehrup

last saffron
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well, you are forced to descend. Documentary refers to the main four as "Scavengers being held against their will by the Mysterious Warden"

lilac island
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and they are being like watched

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threw their eyes

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maybe

last saffron
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Prisoners doesnt necessarily mean theye are criminals

lilac island
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its like tychus's suit

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from sc2

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itll kill them if they dont comply

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the injection that is

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it watches to see if they do stuff

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and if they dont

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bam they get their head blow off

last saffron
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you dont really have to have such means in them really, the team has no means of getting out aside from the drop cage they arrive in

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so rebellion can be thwarted with a simple idea of permanently getting stuck down there, with no sustenance and alongside unknown horrors waiting for their next meal

viscid sparrow
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isn't one of them mentally insane?

last saffron
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none have been described as insane, the closest to that would be Woods but its more of a religion thing

viscid sparrow
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but doesn't one of them smack their head a couple of times in the lobby screen

lilac island
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could be woods

last saffron
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smacking your head doesnt really mean youre insane

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especially if its done during prep, to some amusingly it helps them clear up

viscid sparrow
#

i thought it was like a hint or something

last saffron
#

theyre not standing there just idle, theyre warming up essentially

viscid sparrow
#

speculation

lilac island
#

well tis a hologram

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not them actually prepping

#

tis showing the prisoners

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like a prerecored message

#

then they go into hyrdo sleep

#

and then something wakes them up

#

or sohuld i say

#

some noun

last saffron
#

the documentary implies the main 4 arent always sitting inside HSU, since Warden lets us keep whatever it doesnt need (which ties into the upcoming upgrade system)

#

its a bit of a mish mash until text/audio logs become avaliable

lilac island
#

huh

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interesting

#

but the warden probably is an ai

#

a super advanced ai

last saffron
#

could be anything

#

one person, several, OS, ai, all at once

lilac island
#

its

#

a

#

noun

last saffron
#

you dont need to send every single word you type separately.

lilac island
#

sorry

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just had to make it uh

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suspensful

lunar roost
#

Needs more than just 2 tests, about like 4 at least archive

last saffron
#

its same as alpha/beta, you can see it yourself. its random each start up

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by see yourself i mean you can do it with your own game

loud pawn
#

Just my two cents, but given The Warden is a bot in the discord, || it's logo can be found lit up on doors in the compound ||, & the override that takes place prior to you dropping- I think it's safe to say it's an AI with an agenda.

lilac island
#

a VERY smart ai

vagrant lynx
#

or group of ai

opaque pond
#

I'm going with council of nasty businessmen with an AI front and center

lilac island
#

most likely a single smart ai controlling other ai

#

it cant be a human

#

why would a human give prisoners stuff they dont need

#

id say an ai controlling all of this

#

made to kill the bag things

#

and restore the main facility

#

if there were businessmen council then why would we not bring back shiney materials

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why just get some pdecs

#

partial decoders*

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a single hsu

#

these things have little value for a council of business men who would most likely just want money, these are items that seem to be used to get further into a facility, and even to learn more about these creatures that dwell down here.

vagrant lynx
#

scientists want things

lilac island
#

ai are very good at learning things

vagrant lynx
#

this is how we get godzilla

lilac island
#

hahaaha

#

it could be the ai who either uses this stuff to learn or takes it to scientists to learn weaknesses

static dune
#

or it can be a corrupt AI thats seeking to spread it

#

but to do so, it needs to get to the lowest levels of the complex, get what it needs, then return to ground level

#

and boom, the world is now owned by monsters/mutants and AI

vagrant lynx
#

maybe the queen of the sleepers is able to merge with technology. she is infact the warden ai, controlling us. feeding her swarm and opening the doorway to global dominance

static dune
#

yeah

#

i was thinking something along the lines of either the AI utilizing the mutants/monsters to merge them with advanced weaponry, or the mutants/monsters merging with technology to become smarter, stronger, and faster

lilac island
#

yeah it could be either oner

#

but why would the ai send us to KILL stuff

static dune
#

in this theory

#

we arent being sent to kill stuff

#

we are being sent to retrieve something from the bottom floor of the complex

#

the mutants/monsters are in our way though

lilac island
#

but then whe nwe go the stuff

#

why wouldnt the ai just kill us

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or let us keep the stuff it doesnt need

#

and what does an infected ai need partial decoders for

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and a reactor turned on

wraith matrix
#

The lore is the warden is the scp foundation and you are a squad of D class sent into the meat grinder to satisfy the whims of a bunch of curious researchers

lilac island
#

-_-

wraith matrix
#

I'm serious

lilac island
#

wrong

static dune
#

the partial decoders

#

could be for a containment facility within the complex

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that would be holding the "queen"

lilac island
#

@wraith matrix hahaha the scp, however your reasoning is correct "almost"

wraith matrix
#

there's no real proof the warden is some ambiguous AI so I like to think its some secret organization using us so they can research it

proper olive
#

So the surface transmissions are they warnings from the Warden AI?

lilac island
#

and there is no proof of the warden being a secret organization

#

the warden is a type of name to signify 1

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the fbi is like alot

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of people

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cause of what it stands for

#

so its most likely someone

#

singular

static dune
#

not really

#

it could most definitely be an org, especially considering the symbol Warden bot has

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the symbol is a ring with 3 circles in it, with smaller ones on the inside of the ring

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so that is a good place to start questioning

#

they could be a group of organizations, hence the three circles

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and the smaller circles? fucked if i know

vast iron
#

Think that this is INSPIRED by the SCP Foundation rather than it is

lilac island
#

yeah

#

i mean this could be a symbol like the radiation

vast iron
#

And maybe the Warden is the Warden of the Sleepers rather than the Players

umbral willow
#

Huh, that's a twist

#

As for the definition of warden, it doesn't have to be associated with prison at all. It means someone, or something, that is in charge of making sure the rules/regulations of a place, or thing, are followed correctly. And enforces them if it has too.

spark merlin
#

Well i'm thinking that the warden is an A.I. controlled by some conglomerate, because in the trailer at the EA release you can hear the characters talking about how the things they are grinding for can "sell" so im thinking along the lines of that these guys are either in debt, contract workers, or prisoners. Prisoners cannot be because in the trailers they were finding stuff to sell, and contract workers do not work either because the warden overrides their retirement. So they must being forced to go down there as indentured servents in order to procure stuff that can pay off the debt that they owe, however due to humanitarian activists, the conglomerate must have put that unstable mental states are unfit to work thing, and their health conditions standards in play, but it obviously doesn't go to plan. The creatures are humanoids in nature it seems, but may have been infected to a virus outbreak that changes the genetic codes of people to be more sensative to light and movement when they release a bioluminescent chemical reaction inside of them which means that the human bodies have changed to contain more lighter materials and contain more liquid inorder to be sensative to movement through the air. The place that we are going into seems to be a former excavation site filled with security personel, workers, scientists, and representatives due to the nature of the building where you can see clear excavators and other building machinery considering how deep we are. In this reguard i can conclude that the company that owned the place found a virus and was experimenting on it, or accedentally found something down there that released the virus. Which is why the company that has us as indentured servents may keep abusing us and sending us down there to find documents and information down there that may be vital to them, and considering thier acts, they must know what is causing it which is why they are breaking the laws to send us down there again

#

This is all speculation of course

umbral willow
#

The warden just may be using us to grab an item it needs to make sure some rule or regulation is followed

spark merlin
#

but it ties in all together

#

no

umbral willow
#

Maybe not grab an item

spark merlin
#

im thinking is a conglomerate either trying to fix up its own mess and act like it never happen

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or

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goverment gone wrong type of thing

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and this was a secret project

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the items im sure have improtance

umbral willow
#

That would be a cool avenue of story

spark merlin
#

it would be

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they havent introduce one yet

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but the things they have set up for us already

#

it seems my story may be a vaild one they are working on

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but who knows

umbral willow
#

I think a big thing people get hung up on is thinking warden means prison, which it could be as well, but all a warden is is a rule enforcer

spark merlin
#

i think more as an overseer

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than a warden

umbral willow
#

Yeah, that would be a better tern

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Term*

spark merlin
#

considering how it types and talks

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i can also concluding its an AI

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cause no person is willingly going to say all that leaving a trail to them

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making them guilty of such a obvious act of human rights violations

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like the AI reactor in D1

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how it went all nutty on us

umbral willow
#

It would also fit for it to be an ai regarding it doesn't care how the tasks are done. It's cold but efficient.

spark merlin
#

exactly

#

or it's code gone wrong

#

or maybe even it gained sentience

#

that would be intresting

#

cause the ai core in D1 seem aware of itself

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in a way

#

and of the threats

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to shuting it down

#

the fact we keep going down and going futher down and the fact that the rundown map is looking like a city

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almost

#

im thinking it was a big project for either a government or a conglomerate

vagrant lynx
#

the complex is known to be at least in part a major mining operation

umbral willow
#

The big question for the story is what came first... The infected or the warden?

spark merlin
#

so then the company idea works then

opaque pond
#

probably the infected

spark merlin
#

@vagrant lynx read up i posted a paragraph a while ago up is that idea valid?

opaque pond
#

the company was probably mining/experimenting long before this current state of affairs came to pass

umbral willow
#

Than the warden was made to keep the infected there

spark merlin
#

no

#

the warden oversees the operations of the expeditions

#

nothing more

#

it never tells us to eliminate enimies

#

just to find objectives

opaque pond
#

to what end, we don't know yet

umbral willow
#

That is true

spark merlin
#

so the people being forced to go down may actually support my idea of them being indentured servents then

vagrant lynx
#

@spark merlin its in par with current theories more or less

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we are prisoners thou

spark merlin
#

hell ye

#

how do we know?

umbral willow
#

Maybe the warden is just an outdated Ai and the world is overrun with infected, but it just is trying to follow it's programming using these expeditions lol

vagrant lynx
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it says in the videos

spark merlin
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o shit

vagrant lynx
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check out

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vagrant lynx
#

that video

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should say it

spark merlin
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well i mean

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techinaclly

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indentured servents are prisoners

umbral willow
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We are prisoners on work release

vagrant lynx
#

but im pretty sure its on the steam store page

spark merlin
#

bound by finacial reasons

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like if they dont pay off its debt they will be "removed" in a sense

#

because the EA trailer mentioned something intresting

#

they were looking for something to sell

#

when they were burning through the door

#

so the two being prisoners and looking for something to sell

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may coconcide

vagrant lynx
#

thats because the wsrden doesnt care what you find and keep only that you do the objective

#

also. we know crafting and progression systems are coming.

spark merlin
#

well if that was the case

#

then they couldnt exactly overide our retirement

#

as we could just build up money

#

and go away

#

unless

vagrant lynx
#

no

spark merlin
#

the disease here is elsewhere too

#

maybe

vagrant lynx
#

trading amongst prisoners not stores

spark merlin
#

o

#

i se

#

but then what about the warden

vagrant lynx
#

my guess is the prisoners and complex are isolated. doesnt matter if you have a gun if they have a nuke pointed at you

spark merlin
#

this is companny owned right?

opaque pond
#

was at one point

spark merlin
#

that much is confirmed

vagrant lynx
#

we dont know...

spark merlin
#

well

opaque pond
#

no guarantee it still owned by Santonian or a related org

vagrant lynx
#

we know companies are involved to a degree

spark merlin
#

well

vagrant lynx
#

the doors have logos, walls, even the reactor

spark merlin
#

it isnt government owned, unless this government is a dystopian type of government

#

more authoritarian than eglatarian

#

but even then

vagrant lynx
#

likely privately owned

spark merlin
#

why even bother including mental states and health then

#

exactly

opaque pond
#

it's probably owned by some company who bought out Santonian after the event occured, and they're trying to get something out of the facility that is worth a lot, either monetarily or strategically

spark merlin
#

but that wouldnt make sense

#

for monetary

#

because A1 we were searching for samples of the virus

#

unless

vagrant lynx
#

mental health etc tells you not to send crazy people to c1..
they will wipe

spark merlin
#

it was to recreate thier work

vagrant lynx
#

nonono

#

A1 is for dna. to gain access

spark merlin
#

o right

#

me thinks they dug up something they shouldnt have

vagrant lynx
#

we've collected no data so far that we know of. other thsn our implants

spark merlin
#

me thinks they go die die after dig up

#

me thinkgs b2 id personel were the people who found it

#

or people who were infected first

#

or major sceintists

#

or people who simply had access

vagrant lynx
#

b1 was id cards ,b2 was officer dna, both were needed for c1, c1 power over load leads to d1 and c2 gave us something to access d1 as well i think

spark merlin
#

but

#

for a reactor

#

wait

#

prior to the reactor room in d1

#

how many security zones are there?

#

in total

#

including the team and individual ones

#

because me thinks there is no reason to have 12 id cards for one reactor

vagrant lynx
#

id wasnt for reactor

#

you have to look at the rundown, when you click on a level it tells you why your going

spark merlin
#

ah

#

we need admin dna to go to b1

#

then we need id cards to access level c and the dna to activate the reactor

vagrant lynx
#

yah there we go

spark merlin
#

then go to c to overload the d security systems and decoders to get to the reactor mainframe

vagrant lynx
#

yup

spark merlin
#

all of this

#

to get to D

vagrant lynx
#

yes

spark merlin
#

but why did we need to shut it down to begin with

#

is the question

vagrant lynx
#

have you completed D?

spark merlin
#

and why did the ai in the terminal go nutty

#

ye

vagrant lynx
#

no ai

spark merlin
#

the mainframe determines us as threats tho

#

doesnt it

vagrant lynx
#

When you go to reactor you open a remote access, where the warden overrides saftey lockouts, by forcing a reset of security protocols, then that allows us to activate the shutdown sequence

spark merlin
#

but the real question is

#

nani the fuck did those creatures come from

#

and how are they made

#

ima call them banshees

#

from d1 reactor

vagrant lynx
#

well...

#

light ... reactor's and xrays and radiation

#

who knows.

#

but its disturbing

spark merlin
#

possibly

#

magic

#

:v

#

all along

#

there was master wizard at E1

vagrant lynx
#

the myth of E1 on #001

spark merlin
#

wait

#

what you meean

#

001

vagrant lynx
#

this is rundown #001

#

these maps

#

as i understand

#

there is no E1 map for this run

noble plume
#

okay so i get real strong last of us type vibes from the creatures. like, they click and scream like the clickers in last of us, so what is this is just another cordyceps/fungal infection from the spores in the air? it would explain a lot about the musty atmosphere and whatnot

vagrant lynx
#

we dont know yet

#

running theory is fungal parasite

lilac island
#

that was my theory 😠

opaque pond
#

It's been the theory from the onset

frozen cairn
#

it is many a persons theory

lilac island
#

its either

#

a fungus

#

or parasite

vagrant lynx
#

my theory is space rainbow unicorns

opaque pond
#

parasitic space rainbow unicorns

vagrant lynx
#

now im afraid

#

i wanna knownmore about scouts

#

i think scouts do more than shown

frozen cairn
#

apart from scream really loud?

lilac island
#

they alert

#

showing the fungus/parasite

#

know we here

vagrant lynx
#

i think they feed thier friends

lilac island
#

no

opaque pond
#

They Lurk
They Detec
But Most Importantly
They screm for protec

lilac island
#

nah just to kill you

vagrant lynx
#

@opaque pond dat pic haha

#

why do scouts patrol

#

what are they looking for

opaque pond
#

intruders

lilac island
#

yeah

opaque pond
#

the whole thing probably operates like a body

vagrant lynx
#

what if theyre checking on thier friends.

lilac island
#

prolly gonna be a heck ton

#

at the nests

vagrant lynx
#

why are scouts not more frequent? why are they in non essential rooms

opaque pond
#

wait until there are scouts that summon... the other bois

lilac island
#

no

#

enemies that summon more scouts

#

that scream to summoner more things

opaque pond
#

scouts that turned out to be one of you all along

vagrant lynx
#

sidenote...

#

i think like gsmes like lfd2, it would be cool to play as the mobs

lilac island
#

no

vagrant lynx
#

I'd scout scare you so good

lilac island
#

people have tried

#

to suggest

#

lfd2 enemy ideas

vagrant lynx
#

it would be bad imo

lilac island
#

and they got downvoted

vagrant lynx
#

but fun as a side game

opaque pond
#

ever play dying light?

vagrant lynx
#

no

#

i know of it

#

sorta

opaque pond
#

you can invade other people's games as a mob

#

one that can parkour as well as the player

vagrant lynx
#

haha

#

thats awesome

#

i wish i was around for alpha

#

:/

#

i duno

#

gtfo is nuts

static dune
#

nuts is an understatement

vagrant lynx
#

its fun thou

#

ive never been this hyped in a while

opaque pond
#

I don't get hyped, but I appreciate what they're doing

lilac island
#

im not hyped for this game, but it is fun

#

and its nice t osee devs make a great game

#

i give it A+

#

it might go up or down

#

depends on what happens to the game

opaque pond
#

I just hope they never cater to the people who will just quit anyway

vagrant lynx
#

agree

opaque pond
#

the response to "This is too hard" should be "Excellent" steeples fingers

vagrant lynx
#

keep it hard

lilac island
#

@vagrant lynx

static dune
#

mate

#

its 2020

#

dont assume its gender

lilac island
#

uh i dont see any honkers

#

but idk

static dune
#

flat chested

lilac island
#

.>

#

they all look the same

static dune
#

sexist much

#

lol

lilac island
#

<.<

#

.>

#

ive been exposed

#

but still it has a human foot under the what do you call it? skin?

#

and human bones

#

but idk it could be some weird alien

static dune
#

they have mutated from humans

lilac island
#

yeah

static dune
#

so it makes sense

lilac island
#

it like latches onto a human

static dune
#

i assume the extra layer of skin they have is a mutation

lilac island
#

and turns it into a sleeper

static dune
#

a hardened layer

#

like armor

lilac island
#

it is a black head

#

yeah

#

a black head

vagrant lynx
#

rangers are suggested to be female. crawlers male

#

scouts are female too

#

from the looks

lilac island
#

yeah

#

lookin be like 👀

#

dru be like 😍

vagrant lynx
#

dat ass

#

that semi transparent ass

lilac island
#

and big shooters

#

but honestly

#

men had it worse

#

like their faces got torn apart

#

and they have human ears

vagrant lynx
#

its all bad news bears

lilac island
#

yeah

#

actually

#

it could not be a fungus

#

it could be a queen

#

who infects

#

facehugger style

vagrant lynx
#

i would wagger this event is tied to the explosion. and affected 90% of the facility staff all at once

lilac island
#

yeah

#

but there is a queen

vagrant lynx
#

whats curious is thier sleeping state

#

there appears to be blood on the fins/doors before you drop

lilac island
#

hm

vagrant lynx
#

i dont have the screenshot right now

#

i wanna know what the explosion is about

#

also why didnt everyone turn

lilac island
#

what explosion?

#

and wdym

#

who didnt turn?

#

what explosion

vagrant lynx
#

the main shaft we drop in, has damage thst shows it came from below and went up

lilac island
#

prolly the meteor

vagrant lynx
#

it didnt turn some corpses

lilac island
#

oh

#

prolly for food

#

but in their sleeper state

#

its like hybernation

#

they dont need to eat

vagrant lynx
#

corpses appear to be cowering in fear

lilac island
#

as much

vagrant lynx
#

in some cases

lilac island
#

yeah

#

they were eaten/saved as a meal

twilit peak
#

question, is there wifi in the rundown?

#

i feel like thats an important lore question

lilac island
#

no?

twilit peak
#

dang 😢

harsh spoke
#

I'd love it if there were areas of the map that had more lore information that are far enough away without light that they can't be seen without the high-powered flashlight

#

stuff like that

twilit peak
#

so real lore discussion tho, their hearts. They light up and pulsate the sleeper's body. And the sleepers have this long wormlike tentacle that comes out of them. are they being controlled by the worm? is the heart within the worm or of the body they are controlling? also theres black shards around their bodies which is interesting to note 🤔

harsh spoke
#

answer is "something something alien tech + mutation"

#

I just want some cool invisible ink that's revealed with glowsticks

twilit peak
#

yeah would be cool if there was more ways to use the high-powered flashlight

#

oooooooo that would be cool

harsh spoke
#

or like you could throw a CFoam grenade at a box and the box would disappear, revealing something that was inside

last saffron
#

the "hearts" seem to be the tongue. the glow doesnt start from the chest actually, it comes from their lower abdomen, settling at the throat/head when fully agitated. the "black shards" are only present in Bullrush strikers, and im starting to think their texture is glitched because they have an entire set of different ones

#

the heartbeats sound wise are also more in line of sloshing around, when theyre not agitated theres no beating at all

real pewter
#

GTFO battle royale huh

#

@wind imp

hard echo
#

the thing is. It's ALMOST confirmed that this is some kind of Infection... But on D1... That is something different 🤔

wind imp
#

Mainly the Japanese Battle Royale movie...

#

D1 looks like a nuclear experiment gone bad.

hard echo
#

tbh

#

It could be a mix of them going crazy and an experiment

real pewter
#

what if this just all a dream 😄

hard echo
#

I'm writing a short story based on GTFO

#

but in a different universe ^^

#

For now >:D

#

I took what i could gather and structure some ideas around it

real pewter
#

do it

cerulean forum
#

@hard echo Im dissapointed with C2 the thing

#

I tried everything I could think of to piss the ceiling off it didnt work so im sad

opaque pond
#

A few rundowns from now, when the ceiling has become invasive, you'll look back at this moment and think 'Ah, yes, it was much better when it wasn't doing this to me'

cerulean forum
#

I want

#

It to kill me

hard echo
#

@cerulean forum Did you tried to assumes "it" gender?

cerulean forum
#

dont you start this shit with me

#

Mate

#

I was hoping since in the text when hosting the lobby one could... die by them

#

or something scary would happen.....

tawny sluice
#

Anyone seen the movie Gamer or Avatar? The start up, sounds like the link was completed and you just woke up hence the gasp for air.

oblique fractal
#

@tawny sluice
You get an implant in your brain and then you're thrust down a large shaft where the air density changes along with the quality at high speeds.

lilac island
#

@tawny sluice nah fam that sounds more like panicked breathing

#

and theyre called prisoners

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im certain its just death row inmates being punisheed for doing bad shit in like the year 2050

opaque pond
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Don't need to commit crimes to be a prisoner :D

lilac island
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true true

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uh

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hn

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but im sure its more likely its actual prisoners rather than like homeless people

lilac island
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hi, is this where you can post suggestions about the lore? just wanted to confirm

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yeah

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but make sure

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to check pins for the current accepted lore

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or "known"

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just check the presentation

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thanks

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nP

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good luck finding all the lore 😛

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lol

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trust me if you wanna find certain things you have to look at hte enemies themselves

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so where is this known law presentation you speak of ?

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check pins

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and scroll to the presentation

bitter lance
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@regal pawn

regal pawn
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omfg

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yes

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xD

lilac island
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hm

deft sparrow
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I don’t think is fungus , i think it might be alien gene that had been corrupted while they used it to see what happened to the human body and the true end of the expodition is to gather as much combat deta and resources from the faculty as possible before termination by buckler war head or internal flooding of poison gasses filled by thermal blast . In the same time the cameras will be streaming the fight and people can bet on it making them extra profit for those turban run these facilities

shrewd abyss
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what's the story

lilac island
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@deft sparrow so then where is your evidence of this

deft sparrow
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Just a theory but with an elevated and caging similar to those used by the Russians For the space shuttle and the tentacles that seems to carry far more bio mass than it should , that aside Mose of the objects are high tech and the constant monitoring of the personal’s genes and brain fiction , if it’s a fungus they won’t need to monitor the gene structure since it will just feed off the corps and not damage the DND of the hose since that will kill the hose most of the time .

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My theory is broken at best but it’s about all I can think

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Since fungus don’t really work well since some of the rooms are fairly dry and places like this normally have standard dehydration system in the vents

lilac island
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i dont know about you but i see fog in like every damn room and fog is water

cerulean forum
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the air appears toxic due to us all wearing gas masks and the air looks to be filled with particals/dust the fog could easily be from evaperated water particals in the air

lilac island
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also not all fungus needs a wet area, if they are host based they can just go onto hosts and spread from there/

deft sparrow
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Hard to say since we only know those pits as prisons

lilac island
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what pits?

cerulean forum
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well it looks like something broke out from below

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thru every level all to the top

lilac island
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hmmmm

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it could eithe rbe man made

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from the warden/some person throwing something down there which caused it to blow up

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or the sleeper QUEEEEEN or KIIIIING who did that

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and that would be a big boi or girl

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like very big nests

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at the bottom

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probably protected by the blackheads

cerulean forum
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didnt u see the trailer?

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theres growling in it

lilac island
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no

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i didnt

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ok dont judge me

clear axle
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what if these were prisoners who were made to be weaponized but fucked up

cerulean forum
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mate I told u about it weeks ago

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watch it

lilac island
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which trailer

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because i watched the like

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that

cerulean forum
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thats it

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Theres growling in it

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like a

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animal

lilac island
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i dont hear it

clear axle
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I wonder what that long tongue at the end was

lilac island
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w0rm

clear axle
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also I saw cutting torch

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as an equipment

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but it never made it to beta?

lilac island
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no

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but the pulse thingy

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is coming

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i think

clear axle
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the pulse is the room mapper?

lilac island
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yeah

clear axle
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oooh

lilac island
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i think ludvig said it coming

clear axle
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kinda want to see it in action

cerulean forum
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also btw

clear axle
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tho I pref bio scanner

cerulean forum
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In the game in general a random event happens

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where people can hear

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a Roar

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in the far distance

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similar to a goliath

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but more

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dangerous

clear axle
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which map does it occur?

lilac island
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is there a sound recording

cerulean forum
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only happens to 1 person

lilac island
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of this

cerulean forum
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nah i never had the chance

clear axle
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I haven't heard it in my A1 to B2 runs

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oooh

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Only roars I hear are from dying goliaths and scouts

cerulean forum
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@clear axle I have done A1 15 times b1 3 and B2 3 and on my 3rd C2 clear I heard it

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No

lilac island
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dear god

cerulean forum
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its a roar

lilac island
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thats alot

cerulean forum
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from the ever distance

clear axle
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hmmmm

lilac island
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like

cerulean forum
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we never agroed anything yet

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it just

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happened

lilac island
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is it a 682 type of roar