once again
#gtfo-lore
brittle jacinth
also characters screaming when falling
last saffron
DOES NOT
vestal obsidian
Not any louder with a subsonic projectile thats supressed
last saffron
make a gun quiet.
vagrant lynx
silencers and suppressors can lower range and accuracy ...
lilac island
Were prisoners. Not military. We aren't going to have supressors
last saffron
a shotgun with a suppressor will still give you permanent hearing damage.
vagrant lynx
the issue is silenced ranged weapons and aoe qould make it to easy. lore wise... these arent military soliders
last saffron
on db scale its slightly below a jet engine taking off
vestal obsidian
Supressors will help with “accuracy” by helping with veryical recoil
Yes for a rifle with a super sonic round
last saffron
the hosts also dont exactly care much for bullets
vestal obsidian
Will be loud
opaque pond
regardless, one could argue that any of the facility's sounds might be so stock that the creatures don't care about them, melee can still wake up a sleeper if you do it wrong
vagrant lynx
@vestal obsidian yah i never quite knew how much they affected it
last saffron
i remember accidentally smacking a door and giving myself a heart attack
vestal obsidian
A pistol firing sub sonic ammunition or a pump action shotgun firing sub sonic slugs would be very silent
opaque pond
not silent, less loud
vagrant lynx
@vestal obsidian but dont worry the in game interface of rainbow 6 siege tells me everything i need... accurately right?🙃
opaque pond
but still not lower in volume enough to count as :silent"
vestal obsidian
Im trying to state facts from my experience with suppressing firearms irl
vagrant lynx
regardless silent ranged wpns are not for gtfo gameplay wise
vestal obsidian
Some calibers and guns supress better than others
last saffron
im also fairly certain our weapons might as well not be capable of using different ammo types
vestal obsidian
Aww damn
last saffron
considering some look like theyre held together by magic
vestal obsidian
That would be fun, slugs in the shotguns
Hollow points in the rifles and pistols
Armor piercing for the sniper
lilac island
Again that's a lot more options than prisoners would ever get
last saffron
ap rounds are useless for flesh
vestal obsidian
Change up how they play
vagrant lynx
taser, toxic, white phosphorus rounds?
vestal obsidian
Again, magical heartbeat detecting tool
opaque pond
in addition, a gun firing a bullet suppresed can be quiet at the point, but the bullets hitting the target are absolutely not
last saffron
gain an advantage at a cost of hindering yourself in other areas
vagrant lynx
heartbeat sensor can't attack thou
vestal obsidian
Tbh the loudest part of a properly supressed gun being shot into flesh will be the action cycling if its semi automatic or fully automatic
opaque pond
til it tears through them and hits the metal/concrete on the other side
these things are soft
vagrant lynx
rounds "plinking on the ground"
opaque pond
should let us smash things with the tracker
vestal obsidian
Hollow points or frangible rounds would fix that issue
Considering how high tech most everything we get is i dont think different ammo types is out of the realm of possibility
vestal obsidian
Im curious what would be customizable
brittle jacinth
criminals
vestal obsidian
On the guns
brittle jacinth
using repurposed mining gear
vagrant lynx
different ammo is do-able
vestal obsidian
Sights
last saffron
stuff we havent isnt really that high tech
brittle jacinth
not for mentally unstable criminals
vestal obsidian
Auto tracking turrets
opaque pond
regardless - at this point it's a matter of "the developers have no intention of you rolling in like seal team 6 and merc'ing everything with surgical precision"
last saffron
holographic displays have been a thing for quite a while
making a sentry gun can literally be done at home
last saffron
i literally googled how to do it
vestal obsidian
Two axis of rotation, a firing mechanism. Build it to target certain things and not you
last saffron
and it showed me a video tutorial
opaque pond
A sentry gun would snag someone a prison sentence just as quickly as some wire and a shortgun in a window xD
vagrant lynx
naw man its on google.... right beside time machines and " build your own millennium falcon"
last saffron
the only stuff gtfo has that we dont are HSUs
Cortex interface is an actual thing if youre curious
its being researched for prosthetics with some degree of success
vagrant lynx
<<< in coming matrix reference
last saffron
we kind of had stasis, but its only for corpses and 99% of it went bankrupt
vagrant lynx
the issue was less lore/universe wise... it was gameplay wise
leaden zinc
When it comes to figuring out what this "thing" is, we need to understand what it does. its main effect is heavy mutation, the evidence behind this is the internal glowing, the split heads, tendrils, and glowing spit. so i would predict a small organism
a virus cant work if its alien unless it is a bio weapon
bacteria can work but this is some severe bacteria to cause this
so i would say a small microscopic parasite that can manipulate and change genetic structure as it would have to be small enough to change DNA
prime silo
floral plaza
I found it already you beautiful human you. But thank you anyway 🙂
prime silo
spice cobalt
Just to tack onto some bits, most of our gear is repurposed Mining equipment as said by the devs in a video.
I am fairly curious on the WARDEN as well as the groups relating to the Complex. Such as Stratonian Industries.
agile sphinx
Well the mine is probably all owned by Straton, which implies a mega corporation or at least a massive company at the very least
flint ledge
spice cobalt
Just the logo and contact at the bottom right
vagrant lynx
i just noticed... no one on the team going down, appears to have any scientific background or equipment to study or collect data
that we know of so far
vagrant lynx
still doesn't mean they don't have skill sets
cerulean forum
since they are able to easily dissapear
It would have to be people without many family/friends
or people living in remote areas where if they dissappeared no one would notice
or they could just kill them but being more secretive would be easier i would assume
opaque pond
if it's a touchy situation, I doubt you want someone "in the know" to see the collecting
vagrant lynx
true
its also interesting they can keep things they find of unimportantance
like wpns.
cerulean forum
well I would assume they arent good weps
factory line not powerful compared to what they have
or even this stuff could be outright trash
prime silo
There will be better weapons and unlocks.
Maybe they send new prisoners down with crap guns to save money.
vagrant lynx
i mean lasers are common, but not for prisoners
like bringing a throwing spear against a tank
light ermine
can u kill a scout with 1 melee attack?
cosmic ridge
charged headshot on a c-foamed scout i believe?
light ermine
yeap, i just fucked up...
lunar roost
I've only once killed a scout without any C foam and only my hammer. Almost killed another later on but didn't stand up and triggered the thing.
lilac island
I killedm y first scout
with a c foam grenade headshot with hammer
Tbh im thinking its an alien virus, which has infected the prisoners turning them into everything
it could make sense then how they past security doors as well
a hivemind perhaps
cerulean forum
100% not a hivemind
they show inteligence but def not a hivemine way of doing things
cerulean forum
cus if it was why wouldnt everything agro when u agro one
lilac island
how else would htye get past closed security doors?
lunar roost
Obvious genetic mutation virus
cerulean forum
and only a singular room
I like the idea that its a alien biowep or alien parasite/alien that creates/infects us
lunar roost
Let's not forget how they didn't completely convert that one prisoner that was killed on the floor in that one room
He was just laying there all bloody and dead
cerulean forum
most expeditions*****
cerulean forum
there are a few corpses being torn apart
lunar roost
Ye, food is most plausible
cerulean forum
they seem to not need much tho considering that they sleep 100% of their time
lunar roost
Mostly since the males have mouths, but how do the females eat? Do they have mouths too?
cerulean forum
they go into a semi-hibernation state
lilac island
females could be the spiiting things
cerulean forum
@lunar roost males have mouths the females r shootys
lilac island
idk names
cerulean forum
which I would assume sleepers are the first stage
lunar roost
The females don't have to eat huh. Seems like they can sustain themselves without food
cerulean forum
thenit mutates and evolves past that idfk
but theres a good amount of stages of mutations and branches off so not sure how all that works
lilac island
and the warden is trying to stop this
as most likely an ai
which injects into US
to change stuff
to improve
adapt
cerulean forum
why tf do people think its an AI
lunar roost
Doubt it's an Ai
lilac island
yeah
lunar roost
Tapping all camera's attached to them and arming them prior to get the job done of those who aren't willing or can't up above
cerulean forum
but like an AI doesnt seem plausable whatsoever
lilac island
if we were prisoners
with our own minds
why tf would i agree to go int oa bunch of aliens thingies
cerulean forum
well listen to the wording
lunar roost
Basically making prisoners do the dirty work and not having those simpletons that are relatively normal worry about the infected.
cerulean forum
"it comes every night without fail"
"there are different people everytime"
"but I reconise them somehow"
lilac island
who says this
cerulean forum
"they are screaming at me i cant hear them but i know they are screaming"
the GTFO trailer
the first lines in the trailer
lilac island
yeah but which person
cerulean forum
who u think>?
lilac island
idfk
cerulean forum
the nigerian bloke
lilac island
i wouldve returned it if i hated it
but it was nice
bruh when you desperate for a good game youll do funny things
lunar roost
Is it a problem that he is supporting the devs? Also, this is lore not insulting someone because they saw one video of the game and bought it
lilac island
^^^^^^^^^^^
cerulean forum
never insulted him
lunar roost
Well, to you, no, to him yes.
cerulean forum
i am australian I said that sarcasticly
lilac island
"shit fan u are"
cerulean forum
we do that alot
cerulean forum
Exactly u can >:D
zealous raven
as a random note, we have no idea what the outside world looks like, compared to the Complex
It could be just as fucked
lilac island
anyway back to lore
cerulean forum
but yea nah I just tend to talk like I normally do
lilac island
how so reyt
cerulean forum
@zealous raven no one really knows as in all the expeditions its always raining and very stormy
lunar roost
Ya, australians do it different, they aren't snowflakes like most americans. Though i still say, prisoners are still forced to do the bidding of some body
Like turning on and off the reactors
zealous raven
The only look of the outside we've seen so far is just the drop animation, and yeah, always cloudy/raining
cerulean forum
@lunar roost we are being used to collect DNA samples of people and Progress further throughout the facility
not sure what else is down there besides different DNA samples
maybe different strains of the same virus/whatever it is
lunar roost
Definitely for power and turning the last one off to prevent a possible melt down. Ya, that part i don't understand there has to be something for that.
lilac island
Most likely
a test of the virus
itself
wait
this mining facility could be for seeing samples of the virus
lilac island
something went wrong, sabotage perhaps? or maybe an accident? cause a sample to drop like a bomb and spread through the facility infecting everyone
thos samples are to see if we can stop the virus in it
or find a immunity to the virus?
lunar roost
Hmmm, in each cutscene to entering the nether, don't we have a different background we circle together with our teammates?
cerulean forum
@lunar roost no background we are all different people being forced together
atleast nothing yet
besides basic personality types
lunar roost
I don't remember broadly, since i skipped them most of the time, during the start that is.
lilac island
still feel like an ai is put int ous to havce info dumped
and have us be like normal
cerulean forum
nothing different happens besides seeing a gaint Fucking hole bursting out of the facility we are going down
lilac island
and not be like when we drop WHERE ARE WEEEE
cerulean forum
so somethine broke out it appears
then alot of the facility aswell looks like something Burst out from below
lunar roost
Hmmm, let's factor in how we are able to get down the the depths we get to from a man maid shaft of some kind. That, and how we get down there in the specific pod we do.
lunar roost
I would assume that before all this happened everyone was underground. and forced to the top
cerulean forum
while alot of HSU pods are also there
lunar roost
Cause how would those "people" be like the way they are if they weren't down there
cerulean forum
what???.......
lunar roost
I can't explain anymore than i have.
cerulean forum
people were down there because how would the sleepers be there if people were there
thats basically what your saying
doesnt make sense right?
lunar roost
I'm going back to my rdr2
lilac island
im still saying people were there mining for something the virus or the precious space mateiral from the crasdh
lunar roost
I'll try to simplify it somewhat when i get more of a bare on it.
lilac island
then something go sabotaged for the virus and spread or someone revealed some virus
and infected everyone problem solved
cerulean forum
@lunar roost you didnt need to specify that because we already knew they would of had to of been there if they were down there
lunar roost
Yup.
cerulean forum
@lilac island u seen the screenshots?
lunar roost
You guys ever see the game called Nether? Back like 6 or 7 years ago?
cerulean forum
theres a bunch of screenshots from shit not seen
Mateee!!!!
i cant remember
where it specificly is
lilac island
yeah
so virus
so its already bee nthere...
how big are they
and are they lookin like a normal human
lilac island
where?
stable juniper
I think the pathogen is a parasite. In the game tips it is stated that the heart of the sleeper variant is beating when they are receptive to sound and movements. Thing is they can still move very slowly while asleep. Which is impossible without blood flow to oxygenate the muscles.
So Im guessing that they effectively have two hearts one for the human being and one for the parasite.
However my hypothesis doesn't explain their split heads. Or the sexual dimorphism.
barren pelican
the lack of sexual dimorphism
or the presence of it
haven't been able to get a good look at the enemies yet
stable juniper
Someone stated that some forms are male exclusive and other female
Like the scout which is apparently female
barren pelican
parasite which spreads and grows slowly replacing the insides of the hosts, hijacking what it can, replacing what it can't, until it is basically a completely new entity riding the skin of the old one
given the location of the complex being given as the crater that killed the dinosaurs
probably some extraterrestrial thing
dimorphism can be explained by the parasite reacting to certain hormones that are only present in males or females
stable juniper
Parasites cant as far, as I know, hijack or mutate their hosts. They can eventually replace a part of the body, feed off their hosts, and eventually have some form of control over the host through hormones, particular lesions and symptoms.
barren pelican
well this isn't a traditional parasite as we know it on earth
its less of a nutritonal parasite
and more of a complete body parasite
it simply kills the host and uses it to grow itself
stable juniper
I have to disagree. The sleeper looks pretty specialized for eating
barren pelican
well the new creature still has to eat
its replaced the original human
with itself
so now it needs to eat stuff
I wouldn't exactly consider this human anymore,
and without some external and signficiant change in the biology
you can't mutate a human into that
whatever that guy was has been replaced by something else
like in a very literal sense replaced, its basically just a thing wearing the guys skin at that point
stable juniper
Well I wouldn't consider this human too. But from a biological point of view the body is either of human origin, or there is a creature that imitates human.
wise osprey
retrovirus makes a lot more sense than parasite in that regard, retroviruses are literally floating pieces of code with their own storage medium that hijacks and recodes DNA
stable juniper
They're no signs of decay on the body so I have to assume that the human body is very much still alive. Maybe the body is controlled entirely by the parasite.
@wise osprey Yes actually I think that what could make the most sense is a parasite that carries a retrovirus.
barren pelican
the body is originally human, it's just that the parasite slowly replaced the human almost entirely
wise osprey
it'd look a lot more grotesque if it's a parasite
or rather, if it's replacing the host
stable juniper
I don't think it's replacing the host. To me it just looks like it uses mostly what is already there. The human body is alive and functioning.
I think the parasite is actually small and burrowed somewhere with an access to the trachea
Roanoke gaming would probably enjoy examining those creatures
atomic tree
@stable juniper Yo, it is me who brought up the sexual dimorphism of the creatures.
This can ofc be explained due to the limitations of a small team, so model various is just not a priority.
But if not, it could be a case of the parasite altering the host based upon the gender it infects. So male, we mutate into chewy/bruty bois, female? Shooty/Scouty gals.
stable juniper
Of course I should have said that. Yet personally I'd still count it as relevant unless the devs add a few various models
If it's only a parasite that reacts to gender it's a strange reaction. Because subjects don't seem to have much genitalia left. And brain too (which also product sexual hormones)
So maybe it just use whatever is already there in human dna
deft sail
or, they could just not have wanted to model genitals and put it in their game
also, brains dont produce sex hormones. those are the sex glands (testes, ovaries, ect)
stable juniper
I've looked it up brains do produce sexual hormones, surrenal glands too, plus ovaries and gonads.
deft sail
i go to school for this
deft sail
the brain tells the sex glands to produce them, but they dont make them themselves
opaque pond
from the most basic standpoint, ovaries and testes do the hormones we care the most about
stable juniper
Just look it up
opaque pond
regardless, there's a possibility that the current setup is entirely incidental to limited in-game models
stable juniper
Yes possibly
And yes the genitalias not appearing anywhere is probably intentional. Strange thing, gore is less of a taboo than genitalia
opaque pond
I doubt the devs would care about putting it in/might prefer to for body horror, however I think they'd rather have a wide market.
stable juniper
Only them know.
atomic tree
Maybe if is about the chromosomes, females makes better tissue for shooty bois and vice versa
elfin ember
Does anyone have the link to the image with the GPS coordinates on them?
ember forum
I wonder if they is an e1 section
Since d1 implies something more
You are turning off the reactor to bypass security I think
carmine carbon
C1 to overload the security grid and C2 to get the decoder for bypassing the damaged security system
tall anchor
@elfin ember
elfin ember
thanks @tall anchor
vocal marten
I heard the story will be given through text logs and just dialog chat between characters? I havent heard any dialog between people or found text logs has anyone else found the lore goodies in the level yet at all?
carmine carbon
they are not implemented yet
vagrant lynx
there was an E1 in alpha
vagrant lynx
ive seen a map that had it
tall anchor
there wasn’t that?
carmine carbon
the rundowns will be changing
tall anchor
Alpha had one mission
vagrant lynx
maybe its in the rundown preview video
vagrant lynx
prob in video i mentioned then
tall anchor
Shouldn’t be
vagrant lynx
?t rundown
cloud swiftBOT
For information on what the Rundowns are and how they work, take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHZwiPVOVvA
vagrant lynx
lets find out
tall anchor
cinematic trailer has it
umbral willow
all the way to the ocean floor... that would be pretty deep
lunar roost
Huh, so that's how they wanted to go about the rundowns. Too bad they aren't really doing it like that in the early access
oblique fractal
The whole point of EA is to flesh the game out.
spice cobalt
Lore tab is active yet again. Glad to see it
opaque pond
this is the first rundown they gave us, right before the holiday, too. Not surprised at all, especially since the community wanted their hands on the game
spice cobalt
Just to clarify some things the reason believed the Prisoners are there are to and I quote " You are sent down on deadly expeditions to carry out different tasks and retrieve various artifacts. " from the Press Kit. Also have some sort of neural chip thing in them. Hence the reasoning for the HUD.
HOI! Calibre
opaque pond
lunar roost
I looked at the steam screenshots and videos, it looked like a mine type of deal. So it is plausible that they are getting "artifacts"
opaque pond
in addition, the mine is dug down into some part of the Chicxulub Crater, which is the site of the impact which allegedly ended the dinosaurs
the company itself is called Santonian Mining Industries
spice cobalt
There are on that note a few other possible groups or industries related with down there.
As seen on other objects with assumed brandings on them
lunar roost
That's probably where that virus came from, the uncovering of the remains of said impact. It's why these areas look modern and man made, due to an exposure of some kind and or trying to use it to their benefit.
opaque pond
Yeah, and the mine has been abandoned by "humans" for years
what we find down there are what used to be humans
lunar roost
Yup, though not decomposed in too bad a way. So there must be something preserving these "humans"
After all, they do have Bio signatures. Does the bio tracker track the heart or the body itself?
lunar roost
Ah. circulatory, so their blood is still pumping.
opaque pond
one of the strongest theories is the things are repurposed humans being "ridden" by a parasite inside them which has reshaped them for various purposes
lunar roost
Ya, maybe, cause where would those invisible ones come from if not for how far down we've gone. Should possibly mean over-exposure to prior said object
opaque pond
probably some sort of secreted covering which bends light for some reason
ember forum
Also it seems the baddies are kept alive by that worm on the inside
spice cobalt
If it is a Parasite. there seems to be a Debate between Parasites or Fugal infection
ember forum
Since they can lose up to half their bodies and still function
opaque pond
my theory is parasitic creatures with fungal aspects/side contagions
ember forum
But that worm thing still comes out to bite you
opaque pond
turns out all they needed to do was pump trillions of gallons of miconazole into the facility
ember forum
I wonder what it looks like when they stay in the bodies longer
||There’s already the fleshy ceilings in C2||
spice cobalt
True
ember forum
I can only wonder what’s farther down
vagrant lynx
the queen imo
the source most likely.
assuming this isnt human genetics manipulation
opaque pond
soldiers
or like, royal guard maybe
they're obviously not a literal hive mind, but perhaps a hive mentality
vagrant lynx
likely || spikies are a unique strain due to factors in C2||
opaque pond
||C2 is the only place we see exposed bio-mass, they're likely guarding it and adapted by proximity||
opaque pond
yeah that's why I worded it out that way specifically
vagrant lynx
what bothers me more is d1
|| that's a specific adaptation||
but why?
aint cause of us
opaque pond
something akin to ||antibodies||? but why do they care about ||that reactor||?
vagrant lynx
i haven't beat d1 and haven't had time to watch d1 vids more closely
||it makes sense they're attracted to energy thou||
i have a theory that on c1 they dont come because of you. rather the alarm and the reactor
spice cobalt
I have only beaten up to C1
Saw the Warden door on C2 and the thing special about it.
opaque pond
There is a chance that there are nourished by the energy. After-all, this is a warm, damp place with it... and if they're fungal...
vagrant lynx
radiation is the obvious yes
now we enter godzilla territory... and i dont feel thats what the devs are thinking
opaque pond
Ah but if in this case, it simply acts as food for the fungus
what would be really funny
vagrant lynx
i feel this is more "hey found x" , hey we found x and mutated to y, or it came from metor remains
opaque pond
<The worms are parasitic to humans and use them for their own ends.... but what if the worms have parasitic fungus that makes THEM do things, such as hijack humans to keep them near radiation sources?> 😄
vagrant lynx
like rhey went mining and suddenly
... the fuck is that shit attacking us
double stack huh?
inception !
the movie
opaque pond
Parasites on parasites... that's how you wind up in an alternate dimension....
vagrant lynx
lol
opaque pond
When the klaxons start up on C1, that's like a dinner bell
spice cobalt
So I'm looking at the gameplay trailer with Dauda in it ( Same one that has DEMON TICK and Coords in black screens) And when the sleepers are getting killed eggs or maybe pods are falling out of them. I think that got changed but still, maybe insight?
opaque pond
that still have the weird globs in them
we're not sure if they're cysts or eggs, or what
spice cobalt
And yes in the Press kit in screenshots there ARE things that are like the sleepers in like Tubes.
barren pelican
my theory is that the worm basically crawls up the circulatory or digestive system and slowly hijacks the parts.of the human that it can use, and replaces.anything it can't use
it could also be fungus like explaining the biomass and the spores
opaque pond
note the groady stuff on the floor, too
vagrant lynx
many sleepers seem to have eggs in thier belly and when you kill em, and there guts are open you can see them
barren pelican
the end result being basically a creature who has replaced almost everything but the skin and skeletal structure
and in certain cases, the digestive tract
from what we do in A1 it seems that they are trying to figure out if it's a mutation or not, and to what extent the infection can compromise hydrostatsis
vagrant lynx
we should all be so lucky has to have several baby alien eggs in our tummy
opaque pond
The question at that point, from a body horror standpoint, is "when does the person cease to exist?" 😉
vagrant lynx
A1 hsu is cause we need that guys dna to pass the sec door on another map
barren pelican
||given that we just DNA core the guy and leave him there, the title of the mission leads me to believe that he was the administrator of the complex who locked himself into hydrostatsis when shit went South||
vagrant lynx
says so on level text
could be they alternate too
we also get officer dna
whats an officer? whats an administrator?
opaque pond
With a high number of people in the facility, there's probably a sizable amount who have clearance, we just need to find the closest one
no facility would have clearance limited to only one or two people for such a giant facility, except maybe the main door itself, and that person wouldn't be in the facility
opaque pond
some of them are probably croaking and gurgling in the dark
opaque pond
Now, kiss him deep, with tongue
vagrant lynx
....😟
spice cobalt
Just gotta wait for the next Rundown and wonder for more details
opaque pond
what would be cool is if at some point we need a security card or cortex implant, but we need to find it with the hacking tool by feedback
and you find it in a pile of gristle/bodies
lilac lance
Admin is likely the civilian branch and Officer the security
opaque pond
either that or it suggests a more insidious link with at least one military body
glossy spoke
People keep bringing up a hivemind theory, I personally believe these things behave a lot like Ants
They have small scouts/workers towards the top, they have more and bad things the deeper you go, which makes me thing that if they are like ants, do they have some sort queen?
opaque pond
you tried
glossy spoke
Yeah, I tried
glossy spoke
Thanks for that
opaque pond
Anyway yes, I also agree that it's some sort of colony
not a psychic link, really, maybe pheromones
glossy spoke
||C2 has the flesh ceilings which could be food sources that they have stored||
Thank you for teaching me how to do that
I believe that they have pheromones in the air too
||but the spikey guys could be protecting that sort of food source as well considering we only see them on C2||
It makes sense in my mind but I could also be totally off too
opaque pond
||the bio-mass in C2 could potentially be part of the colony itself. Perhaps the parasite in its native form, given size by long years, continued radiation and other nutrients||
glossy spoke
||I thought that that the parasite was more like the snake tongue thing inside the people, that C2 flesh ceilings could be sort of pouch/breeding place for them||
opaque pond
yeah that's my take on it
glossy spoke
||In which case it would make a lot of sense why the spikers are protecting that area||
I cannot wait for more of the plot to be revealed to us through the Devs, just so one person in this chat can be like “hah! I was right!”
carmine carbon
Just as a friendly reminder, you dont have to mark everything as a spoiler since this is the lore channel, where spoiler has to be expected
opaque pond
||I like to assume that some people may no want to see things, depending, though I know it's not obligatory||
fast zephyr
so its understood that the facility is a mining expedition into the meteor that killed the dinosaurs right
fast zephyr
my theory is that the meteor that killed the dinosaurs was actually a spaceship that came from another planet trying to escape the sleeper disease but were taken over by the disease while launching and ended up crash landing into earth
carmine carbon
||woops||
vagrant lynx
always tag imo cant hurt right?
fast zephyr
that would make sense why there would be cryo pods in the facility
opaque pond
the cryo pods are human constructs
carmine carbon
the pods contain humans
vagrant lynx
i would wager it was meant to be a cryo storage place for the elite and rich
but then mobs came
opaque pond
the chicxulub meteor is millions of years in the past, technology would likely have not survived
fast zephyr
hmm
carmine carbon
maybe we haven't dug/drop deep enough to see the alien tech
opaque pond
however a parasitic lifeform could have evolved from some proteins brought with the meteor or something... maybe fungal spores more resilient than we're used to
fast zephyr
i thought that because when going into the mine it just looks as if the hole was made by going straight through pre existing buildings
opaque pond
the buildings are the facility, made by humans, which is MASSIVE
the crater could even be entirely incidental to the setting
fast zephyr
most likely
need more lore to make any conclusive evidence
interesting stuff though
vagrant lynx
i dont think its aliens, makes it less scary. more scary if its some freak mutation, or natural mixed evolution
glossy spoke
Someone said the that the devs said it wasn’t aliens but I don’t know if it that is true and I don’t have a link to where they said it
opaque pond
it's true they said that
however, the things we're fighting are former humans, so that is technically correct regardless
opaque pond
Not quite zombies, more like meat suits being kept alive and ridden around in by a parasite
proper olive
What about the big ones then?
wise osprey
easiest explanation would be favourable genetic traits
opaque pond
possible that the host intakes biomass and the parasite uses it to bulk up the body
wise osprey
if we're talking retrovirus like earlier, genetic recoding could trigger some changes if certain conditions met
wild kelp
homie what does that even mean
wise osprey
look up HIV, it's literally a set of instructions floating around that invades your genetic code and changes shit
like to this date, no one even knows how viruses evolved to be what they are
wild kelp
ohh
wise osprey
yeah, it's pretty wild, so if it's like a giant space retrovirus, that could technically contain enough instructions to drastically change people into those things
clear axle
what if that is some sort of fungi or spore like parasite? just like the zombie ants thing.
I mean think about it. Some fungi glow right? and rhe most reasonable way for these humans to change without beinf damaged by these turned ones is through spores being airborne
lilac island
I mean, how many fungi do you see with massive leech tongues
clear axle
or rather airborne infection
hmmm a side effecr of the evolution? I mean zonbie ants do have these weird appendages
opaque pond
Good thing these creatures don't care about our petty knowledge of biology... it will show you truly awesome things
ember forum
Idk
clear axle
still bothered by the scouts lmao. someone brought down calamari for dinner
ember forum
That tongue seems like the actual creature itself
In the males atleast
Idk about the shooters
clear axle
what if the shooters are related to this
they shoot out spore to reproduce
amd these shooters just want to use your body to reproduce and take care of the threat at the same time
kind shore
On the topic of leech tongues, there are parasites that will eat a fishes tongue, take its place and then exist symbiotically with the fish as the host, maybe there are multiple species of this fungus/parasite that are using different parts of the host or has unique traits and they live symbiotically/
clear axle
GTFO fungi/parasite be : "damn your irl biology, we have fiction"
stable juniper
Another strange thing about the sleepers, is their hands. Striker variant seem to have it's fingers cut/bitten off. But the hands of the spitter variant seem to have mutated to havec only three fingers.
vagrant lynx
I'll never drink tequila with a worm in it again
prime silo
What's TLOU?
trim latch
the last of us
prime silo
Oh!
vagrant lynx
gtfo is a movie coming out called underwater....well basically
i cant wait for fish mutant fungal parasites
vagrant lynx
which is?
opaque pond
So... Leviathan
vagrant lynx
oh. well i know who im leaving behind and stealing thier ammo
trim latch
😆
prime silo
prime silo
You were going to leave me behind and steal my ammo.
prime silo
I don't think I did.
Did I?
omg were you the person I shot like five times in a row?
ember forum
Friendship works in strange ways
vagrant lynx
indeed. wanna be friends too?
ember forum
Sure XD
clear axle
imagine the super lower levels being underwater or future updates with pools of water.
all the mutated fish fungi
clear axle
fish that butt scoots
lilac island
LOL!
clear axle
The most annoying things next to the giant variants are the butt scooters. Hard to hit. Wonder if they were dog lovers before they got turned
tall anchor
probably
lilac island
I'm more amused by the Naruto runners lol
cerulean forum
or be a sexy shot with the rev
vagrant lynx
also dont forget to stunlock mobs and call for a teammate to kill him. you can do this for stealth kills if they wake but before they scream
also you can rightclick stunlock mods in discord
just keep pushing with your hammer
and poof. stunned
lunar roost
I thought the pushing never really did anything
vagrant lynx
keeps from attacking
lunar roost
Cause anytime i tried to do it, it did nothing to the crawlers
vagrant lynx
its an interrupt
lunar roost
So technically speaking, you can deflect the worm like tongues that attack you?
vagrant lynx
you have to time it to stop thier attacks, and its hard to aim on crawlers
@lunar roost good luck timing that
if you can...
vagrant lynx
@lunar roost doesn't surprise me, if you watch they glow before the snake comes out. i just sidestep usually
lunar roost
They should probably optimize the crawlers' hitbox when it comes to shoving them with your melee, yup.
vagrant lynx
agree
dim schooner
I thought this was the lore channel.
dim schooner
I've kinda been wondering about the pulsating thing that cracked through the top of the roof in C2.
Presumably, what is referred in the decoded subsurface message where one of the prisoners is saying "don't look up".
frigid beacon
Probably
ember forum
@vagrant lynx still gotta wrap up D1
i swear when i walked into that room
and saw the pitch black ceiling
i was scared of shining a light there
prime silo
Whenever I see something weird that's not an enemy I instantly try to get as close as possible with a LRF.
One day this will get me killed.
ember forum
opening zone 100 was so ominous too
since we didnt know it was the evac
and stepping through was so ominous
prime silo
Yeah, its pretty nice.
prime silo
Did you throw a glowstick at it?
ember forum
the potential atmosphere this game has
prime silo
That's how you flex on the Complex.
Throw glowsticks at fog repellers at stupid stuff.
ember forum
yus
lilac island
Finally saw the thing in C2
cerulean forum
the looking up thing?
lilac island
Yeah
cerulean forum
Record urself being killed by one cus I never went there
steady terrace
i don't see it :(
steady terrace
the giant flesh thing right?
ember forum
spook
cerulean forum
yea thats it\
steady terrace
lol
vestal obsidian
Whatsup with the pit you travel down?
Looks like something straight out of doom 4
Edgy spikes at every opening
lilac island
I just noticed something
the banner on steam
the enemy on the right side has a face
tall anchor
yep
lilac island
it has to be a virus
prime silo
Maybe.
tall anchor
tall anchor
^ can still be a fungus
tall anchor
fungus actually makes scientifical sense
prime silo
Could be alien fungus/parasite brought in from the meteor that hit there.
lilac island
yes!
prime silo
Maybe someone there ate bad taco bell.
lilac island
and didnt clean their hands
prime silo
Or CRISPR went awry.
lilac island
lmfao
but it looks like a fungus
as those little beans on their heads could be spores
and the face tentacle things could be the defenders
of nests
wait
theres always nests wHERE ARE THE NESTS
prime silo
Could be.
elfin ember
question.... we don't know how abandoned site and The Warden are connected right? (other than the missions)?
cerulean forum
well all we really know is the warden wants us to collect DNA samples so far
elfin ember
ok thanks (working on something and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something obvious).
wise osprey
that could be for anything, like beating biometric locks, current rundowns seem to be about unlocking more of the facility.
warden might not be related to who built the facility in the first place
cerulean forum
@elfin ember if u look in pinned messages theres a powerpoint filled with information
@wise osprey no its not the first 3 missions are collecting DNA samples and 1 of them is collecting ID tags
which doesnt appear to have any factor in going down further the reactors seem like they would maybe do something but ye
elfin ember
yeah saw that. Just wanted to make sure we don't yet know that The Warden is part of Santonian Industries
wise osprey
we could be indentured corporate raiders xD
wise osprey
man, why care about that when you can pick at the bones of a fallen enemy and make mint!
capitalism!
tall anchor
hey that’s my line
wise osprey
sorry!
lilac island
lmao
wise osprey
besides, if this was an altruistic mission, you'd think they'd deploy a battalion of CBRN troopers xD
thorny venture
@lilac island I'd say the C-2 thing is the nest.
elfin ember
thanks for the fast answers peeps
elfin ember
C2 is my favorite so far... have fun @lilac island
elfin ember
we were going slow but took 2+ hrs. so settle in for a long fun ride!
cerulean forum
@elfin ember did u look up?
elfin ember
yes ... freaked me out
cerulean forum
good
sage marsh
i was like
cerulean forum
Good
cerulean forum
Lol
elfin ember
what do folks make of the prisoner drop pods?
cerulean forum
they are HSUs
elfin ember
required for the process or part of the prison cells?
cerulean forum
which freeze people in time\
into a hibernation like sleep
used for people with diseases that there arent cures for etc
so it stops killing them then to be unfrozen when its time
maybe its for these prisoners to stop them from Killing/letting them roam free
in cells due to them escaping and such so they can not be done in for Killing prisoners or treating them inhumane
elfin ember
roger that... thanks!
cerulean forum
we collect DNA samples from people in HSUs and there are some that are malfunctioning and operating as intended
so would assume if they malfunction then they wakeup i guess and die form starvation or something
elfin ember
yeah that's interesting...
cerulean forum
also u seen the new enemys you encounter deep?
lunar roost
no?
lilac island
screenshto please
lilac island
but this is a spoiler heavy chatroom\
tall anchor
see
lilac island
i cant see it well
dim schooner
cerulean forum
if u played it
lilac island
hachted
cerulean forum
u would be able to see
lilac island
hatched
cerulean forum
Its not a hatched egg
cerulean forum
Because u havent seen it ingame a screenshot doesnt explain it enough
It pulsates
Like a sleeper
and moves
dim schooner
Has anyone said anything about how it looks like the sleepers are praying?
dim schooner
No, I mean some of them are bending down like they're bowing with their hands like 🙏 .
lilac island
yeah
ik what youre saying
im thinking they are crying
but we dont know the genetic makeup of these guys
dim schooner
We know they were human once.
lilac island
do they ahve brains?
like
whjat did the fungus or virusparasite do to them
cause we knwo their guts of the bean heads is beans
so
like
they still have a brain
autumn bridge
it's weird how the 2 hit infected are always under the flesh cellings
autumn bridge
on C2 the flesh celling we found like full on blackish infected that take 2 people too both hit them
there
cerulean forum
its not a rule anymore
autumn bridge
just lore chat so i was talking about it and forgot to block it
lilac island
is it possible to get into zone 100?
lilac island
any special items in it
lilac island
-_-
autumn bridge
😦
lilac island
what happened
autumn bridge
armoured guys fucked us
we ran out of meds
and the scan was slow and far
hopefully someone does it
lilac island
what are the armored lads weak to
autumn bridge
don't know
first time fighting them we just sprayed at them
and i think hammer fully charged one shots them
we didn't test that much
but there was 4 of us and the one time he played this level he did not see them soooo
who knows what their thing is
but i'm done tonight GN
lunar roost
The black ones can be one shotted if hit in the back with a full charge melee
cerulean forum
any1 done D1?
lunar roost
Sounds photoshopped
cerulean forum
I do not believe he did it at all
lunar roost
If i had the power, i'd take that screenshot down for him. Cause it sure as hell isn't real.
Took me 3 hours and 4 people to do d1, and in the end we were all fatally wounded except me, since i was a scanner hidden behind shooters.
lilac island
@cerulean forum he can spoil it actually
@autumn bridge dw dude
today is the 30th
the spoiler ban is lifted
4th week of release
cerulean forum
@lilac island I said it mate
cerulean forum
I said its not a rule anymore
lilac island
the warden will also show us the amount of rundowns completed
which is pretty awesome
cerulean forum
but i just dont like spoiling that cus it is fun to see it
last saffron
you didnt have to use spoiler tag in this chat specifically as far back as 18th dec, when the message warning about this channel being spoiler heavy was pinned
it doesnt mean youre forbidden from, just in general
cerulean forum
I said its not a rule anymore stop bustin my balls
turbid ridge
the 100 door just looks like s starting area and has an exit point
i've beat it a few times
last saffron
i wasnt really referring to you roo, but the guy with 4 week rule thing
dim schooner
So what could the explanation be behind the invisible enemies in D1?
lilac island
Invisible enemies, sorry what
night crescent
o no
glad shore
Considering the way they seem to function, I would guess their skin absorbs light. It’s why they hunt in the dark, the light outlines them because there isn’t the usual bouncing of light off their bodies.
opaque pond
I think of them like antibodies
The creatures probably like radiation and heat from the reactor, so shutting it down doesn't sit well with them
vagrant lynx
@ember forum ya i haven't beat d1 yet.
ember forum
aaaa
vagrant lynx
i know what happens on it
just haven't found time to do it. been waiting for some of my irl friends to catch up
last saffron
theyd be swarming around the reactor as opposed to coming off somewhere quite a distance from it, plus in general the heat generators emit is dissipated into coolant
a radiation leak would also pretty much mean anyone going in there is dead, even before they get close to the thing itself
vagrant lynx
@last saffron || still doesn't explain this variant.... or why its only seen there||
last saffron
theyre only there for the current rundown, doesnt mean they only appear at generator type tasks
verbal sky
Or because the game is not fully out, devs just wanted to spook you real hard to give you a taste of variety of monsters
lunar roost
That's what i'm thinking, the invisible ones probably like what they get from the reactor, but where do they reside?
vagrant lynx
exactly. but from a lore perspective i like to think theres a connection. even if its a beta game
vagrant lynx
could also be a test to see how players react. to hard and rhey wont do it again
lunar roost
Getting lore from the players helps the devs shape the game differently than from not getting anything from the community, so them creating a dedicated discord to maintain the big community was a really good idea.
last saffron
the lore is already established, just not available to us yet save for few tibids
glad shore
Well, the reactor supplies power to the region yeah? The warden already knew there’d be high casualties, so maybe it’s not that they like the reactor, but have been waiting for it to get dark to become fully active. If it was still light, their outlines would be highlighted by the lights of the facility.
last saffron
there will be Audio/Text logs to discover
and the reason for lore channel is in the pinned messages, the very first one posted in here actually ' v'
lunar roost
Good, the only solution to why we have to shut down a reactor is because of the radiation, otherwise they would keep it on to power the overworld
last saffron
you dont shut the reactor off because of radiation
glad shore
The warden probably had an idea about the things that hide in the shadows already, but needed it knocked out anyway to open up security vulnerabilities.
lunar roost
Enlighten me then
last saffron
glad shore
It’s to open a pathway, yeah.
lunar roost
A powergrid shut down, remember a reactor powers the grid
last saffron
each mission select explains the purpose of what you are doing, for this rundown its us essentially opening a pathway
there are multiple reactors as evident by C
you overload the one there to get to D
lunar roost
Securing a pathway out is essential if you want to survive and come back alive
But that's just a part of the objective
glad shore
Right, but if it was a radiation issue, we’d probably be turning C off instead of on.
lunar roost
Ya, exactly
last saffron
its more in line of literally opening the place up so you can do stuff
lunar roost
Why would they want to open the place up? That's the real question
glad shore
Except we turn Cs reactor on. So it’s probably not a radiation issue. Besides, warden doesn’t care about us that much, we’re expendable.
lunar roost
It's not like there's a way to go deeper from that zone, just the long shaft that you go down.
Yup, expendable prisoners
glad shore
We’re not sure what we’re opening up just yet. There is a lower floor it seems, there’s just not a mission there. It could open a path for cargo, a path lower to whatever is causing the infection, maybe there’s some VIP down there, like the warden itself.
last saffron
the giant hole is just that, a hole. you can go down but cant go anywhere without proper stuff afterwards
which is why we get stuff like DNA for security alongside IDs
lunar roost
Oho, dna for security? Why for security, i get the id's but why the dna for security?
glad shore
It’s like this. Yeah the hole goes down, but without base clearance, you can’t open any doors.
last saffron
B needs both
Apparently the IDs arent enough so you get a sample too
its a Biometric scan essentially
lunar roost
Ah so those id's are to pinpoint where specific people are in the hsu's?
glad shore
The further down you go, the more difficult the security gets. For A1, it does say “dna will suffice”, not that it’s required.
last saffron
lemme get the mission thing, it explains it
lunar roost
Aight, thanks
last saffron
so you could in theory go to C without it, you just wont be able to proceed
glad shore
You know how all those security doors scan for personnel? That’s what the PIDs and DNA samples are for.
glad shore
C2 is hell... Not as bad as D1, but hell. Still haven’t beaten D1...
lunar roost
Huh, that brings up a lot of questions
last saffron
the Hosts generally also get more varied the deeper you go
lunar roost
Needing security to access doors. Seems like scientists were down there experimenting with something and everything broke loose. It's why the deeper you go the more security as a precaussion so that they don't get killed, but in the end they still got overrun.