gtfo-lore

[lilac island]

it can be anything

[naive kindle]

Concept art? 🤔 for GTFO?

[lilac island]

Yes

[naive kindle]

Foggy forest for the memes

[lilac island]

already did it will re do it eventually

[naive kindle]

Then how about a canyon or crater?

[lilac island]

Oh shit a crater

thank you

[naive kindle]

😉

[glad shore]

About that crater... Something is seriously weird with how it’s designed. Like, in terms of the hole you go into. By this point, there’s not much of the original crater other than a valley and some signs of the impact, I’m sure, but does anyone else find it weird that the hole you go into has jagged edges leading up like teeth instead of down like they should if something blasted the hole downwards?

[lilac island]

Ikr that is weird

I dont understand that either

[glad shore]

Sometimes when the hole is well lit you can see piping and other stuff just dangling, steel beams mixed with the teeth, that kinda thing. Like it’s not naturally formed and the hole was created someplace that already had construction.

[naive kindle]

When the meteor bit the earth the earth bit back 😂 it is really strange but it is very aesthetically pleasing

[glad shore]

I think something detonated at the bottom of the hole. Like a pillar of fire kinda thing.

[naive kindle]

It's possible, natural gas pockets do exist in the earth

One spark is all it takes in theory

[steady shore]

Has anyone mentioned the black liquid?

[vagrant lynx]

so guys, the shaft we go down has damage indicators like the spikes pointing up... if you get close you can tell its melted metal. it suggests a large blast, explosions or super heating air etc came from below... 😐🤨

[steady shore]

If it was it was from a reactor melt down but the hole seems to clean and to small for that.

[vagrant lynx]

also take note when you first drop, the metal plates there in the rain appear to have blood on them 😐

[steady shore]

Anyone know about this stuff, its found in on palettes near container, leaking from the enemies, and its next to large drums with biohazard warnings on them.

[last saffron]

thats not a biohazard sign

[steady shore]

No its not

the large drums do thats a corrosive sign heres a better picture

[vagrant lynx]

|| it could be related to c2 or it could be a substance they found or were making ||

[last saffron]

a sign like that is used to mark corrosive stuff

tfwtooslow

[steady shore]

Here we go its not a great picture

[last saffron]

ah, those

[steady shore]

I also have a picture of it leaking from the mouths of dead people

along with the enemies having it along there legs and what looks like it on a bulldozer but that may just be bad texturing

[last saffron]

the stuff from corpses isnt like full black, coagulated blood more closely. anyway, it depends on what exactly is in those barrels.

[glad shore]

Well, considering the lower levels are actually called “Refinery”, maybe the black liquid is used to melt down certain metals during the refinement process or something.

[last saffron]

there are 4 categories for biohazard waste

[steady shore]

It's clearly black on the legs though along with enemies in later levels

[last saffron]

well, 3 rather, A has 2 associated

[glad shore]

That’s more like pustules that have coagulated blood. Kinda like a bruise or contusion.

[last saffron]

the corpses also have their textures a bit

low res

so its hard to make out

[glad shore]

Very low res yeah.

[steady shore]

Here ill put up the corpse picture

[vagrant lynx]

i dont know if we have enough to go on yet in game sadly

[last saffron]

you mean Hosts maybe?

[last saffron]

thats not black

[glad shore]

That’s more a reddish brown.

[steady shore]

the blob coming out of the mouth?

[vagrant lynx]

dark game it is...says yoda

[last saffron]

yeah, blood actually takes quite a variety of colors

[glad shore]

I suppose it’s possible they drank some corrosive liquid. Better that than getting infected and mutating maybe. Could also be that their mind just broke. I mean, we’re unstable according to the HSU scan.

[last saffron]

especially in large amounts

[vagrant lynx]

i dont want to become one so drink up boys!

[glad shore]

But I wouldn’t say that it’s from the infected or anything. It’s just dark. Could be blood, but we won’t know for sure until they up the res.

[last saffron]

theyre also potentially spewing their guts out, or contents of their skulls, some corpses have their eyes erm..leaving their sockets. to put blunt

[vagrant lynx]

im conaidering upgrading my grx 1060 6gb for this game

[last saffron]

like this boy

[glad shore]

Yeah don’t remind me about missing eyes and such. The shooters... Those empty looking eyes... Man, I could swear when the shooters light up they’re smiling at me.

[vagrant lynx]

like this?🤪

[steady shore]

The Chicxulub crater was where the first marker was found in the dead space series

[glad shore]

Less crazy smile, more content.

[last saffron]

theyre not reanimated dead, if thats what youre leading up on

[vagrant lynx]

so 😃

[steady shore]

No they are not but they may have pulled the mental thing from it

[glad shore]

Yeah. If you get up in one’s face while the heart is starting to light up you can see the face.

[vagrant lynx]

its suggested its a fungal parasite

[glad shore]

And it’s... it’s almost happy? Weirdly?

[last saffron]

what mental thing? ' v' theres nothing akin to marker influence in the game

also the fungal parasite has been like, beaten to death and back more in favor of virus/bacteria

[glad shore]

I can see that yeah. The mutations are weird, but it’s more like something adapting the host to be more suitable for it than anything.

[steady shore]

Now that I look at the corpse pile there are clothes just strewn around. They may have gotten either nuclear or biological containments on them and piled the clothes and infected objects up.

Someone said a mental thing plus with the status and the chosen location that why I suggested dead space. Just a note.

[last saffron]

i doubt radiation plays anything, considering what radiation does

oh, we dont know what those stats mean to be fair

since theyre always random

[glad shore]

You don’t need markers or anything like that to cause mental trauma. The stuff down there is pretty messed up to be honest.

[steady shore]

Yes I know, I'm just noticing the similarities

[last saffron]

marker influence is a bit different than normal mental trauma, it does thing in specific directions to faciliate what its ultimately for

[steady shore]

Radiation would be a massive problem considering the large amounts of reactors.

[glad shore]

I would say that it’s possible for the virus to do stuff like cause onset psychosis to appear. But still not too sure on that.

[last saffron]

oh, they totally can if its a prion

or a virus infects the brain directly

[steady shore]

Ill be back later, but I think something having to do with reactors and a black liquid is what is going down.

[last saffron]

its fairly easy to disrupt a brain, hence why its in layers and layers of protection

[glad shore]

Mhm. Though if we are gonna discuss infected here, what I’m wondering is where all the clothes went for them.

Like. Why are they all naked without a scrap of cloth on them?

[last saffron]

the uniforms are laying around

in full sets or just partially

or huge piles

some corpses even wear them while mid transformation

[glad shore]

Which is weird... Maybe the clothes get used up as material in the transformation?

[last saffron]

our guess is that as whatever it is progresses, the skin turns so incredibly sensitive clothing becomes unbearable

clothing wouldnt provide anything really

no nutrients

[steady shore]

When Chernobyl detonated firefighters clothing was pilled in basements and the such

People may have stripped in attempt to save their lives

Same thing goes with chemical weapons

[glad shore]

It might be that Slaanesh is right though. I can see two things the infection probably does that could cause stripping.

One. Sensitivity. Considering how sensitive they are to just movement and light, the skin might have new reactionary nerves all along it. Especially the pustule like growths.

Two. The infection causes a massive rise in internal body temperature. Maybe five to ten degrees. Mixed with a delirious state, they strip to cool off.

[last saffron]

if reactors were malfunctioning/leaking i doubt wed be able to get even close to them. Elephants foot, the most radioactive object in earths existence (i think) could kill in seconds or so

[steady shore]

That's also in dead space the necromorphs gave off a massive amount of heat while transforming

[last saffron]

thats natural considering what the bacteria does to corpses in dead space

i think RE has it too in uh..RE6 or so

despite how awful that game is

[glad shore]

Re4 and 5 for better instances.

5 as it basically liquifies the body rapidly upon death.

[last saffron]

G is another good example, every transformation occurring release a lot of heat

[glad shore]

As it is, radiation leakage doesn’t seem to be an issue. If it was, the characters would be wearing full body gear. Meanwhile, one of them has a mask and a shaven, bald head sticking out. Definitely not radiation protocol.

[prime silo]

The shaved bald head looks like it has little straggles lines of hair. 😆

[glad shore]

Considering the location, the reactors we set up are probably less radiation based, more water based. It’s likely a current based generator.

[prime silo]

hydroelectric?

[glad shore]

Mhm.

Underwater currents are harsher at lower depths. Australia has a massive ocean current stretching for miles that ferries all sorts of ocean life.

[slender stratus]

Idk if this has been pointed out yet but it seems the hole was made in an upward direction as opposed to downward.

[glad shore]

For those wondering if it’s feasible, florida could power 35% of the entire state with 1/1000th of the available energy in the gulf stream alone.

[last saffron]

we discussed that a lot Allmight, but its ok to mention it again ' v'

[glad shore]

Yeah, noticed it recently. It seems like something detonated at the bottom of the hole we use, and funneled the energy upwards.

And it was definitely done after construction, there’s pipe and stuff that look like it should reach out where the pit is.

Also something of interest, the thing we get lowered in does not operate off a rail system. The entire thing is free-hanging.

[steady shore]

I would also like to point out that the prisoners have no idea what happened at the facility nor ever knew of its existence before coming down based on dialog.

[vagrant lynx]

well maybe not.....

go watch the alpha 2017 trailer, there is dialogue that implies...things...

[steady shore]

Yea but that may have ben retconned

[vagrant lynx]

the one on gtfo.com or what ever the game website is

fair point

[steady shore]

Dauda clearly states sometime, "What happened here, this place is huge."

[vagrant lynx]

yeah

[tall anchor]

the script for that video is on daudas page in the wiki

[vagrant lynx]

is it? i shall read it again later

[steady shore]

However Bishop may know something he designed the SANTONIAN website

[tall anchor]

mm

[steady shore]

That companies symbol also looks like a lightning bolt going through a mountain and into the ground. So their underground facilities may not be that uncommon.

[tall anchor]

more like an S in a mountain

because it’s the Santonian mining company

so it’s a tunnel

that’s my take at least

[sudden sleet]

add me on steam tamim96 looking for friends to play with
also will be streaming GTFO on mixer the account is chefssef

[last saffron]

[vagrant lynx]

||on c1 the reactor nuke rods in the floor have a company name on them too, hard to make out thou , looks like onebrno group||

?t lfg

[cloud swift]

Please keep LFG related messages in the LFG channels #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania . If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here #how-to-matchmake

[tall anchor]

https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/Minor_Companies

omneco?

@vagrant lynx

[vagrant lynx]

maybe ya

[last saffron]

nope, lemme dig it up

[tall anchor]

I know it’s in that list though

[vagrant lynx]

i cant post my pics of it rn

[tall anchor]

I think there’s like one or two Its missing company wise

but that doesn’t matter

[last saffron]

Chirano group it says

had to dig for five million years but i got it

[vagrant lynx]

i forgot its upside down again

[steady shore]

At the very beginning of D1 there is a ton of biohazard and black liquid tanks. Also looking at a different body the black stuff coming out of the mouth was red. So it may just be a model problem.

[vagrant lynx]

interesting still.

[prime silo]

Chirano is gold mines.

[vagrant lynx]

oh?

[steady shore]

Yea I was starting to think the black liquid may be biproduct of leaching

[opaque pond]

C(h)ir(a)no group

[shadow igloo]

is it possible the tongues are parasites that embedded themselves in the host? there are fish parasites that eat and then replace the tongue of their host. food for thought.

[late prawn]

Someone earlier laid out a pretty strong argument as to why the parasite could be fungus based

[shadow igloo]

the mutations don't resemble fungal growth to me though. too fleshy rather than i dunno fiberous for a lack of a better word

[late prawn]

It could be the parasite exhibiting and mutating the properties of its hosts, but all I remember from what they said is the fact that they seem to be bioluminescent

There was a lot more, but I forgot who said it, it was a pretty long post

[shadow igloo]

that trait exists outside of plants/fungi though. plus the feelers non animals very rarely waste energy on movement. outside of slime molds i doubt a fungal infection would spend the energy to feel around for prey that might not even be there

[opaque pond]

if the tongue is part of the parasite, it's almost like a leech

[shadow igloo]

and if it was a fungus, the hosts probably wouldnt be mobile. it would most likely be like cordyceps. find a high location root down and release spores

[lilac island]

That's not a leech in that picture lol

THat's a lamprey

[spring stag]

Lampreys are cool but also disgusting >:((

[naive kindle]

So are hookworms

[vagrant lynx]

irl gtfo monsters!!! 🤔 😖 😖

[spring stag]

Don’t worry! Lampreys will generally stay away from people unless they’re starving

They prefer cold-blooded creatures

[vagrant lynx]

like my ex!🤪

i swear if i open up a monster and find a snake inside .... we will know were in the stargate universe gone wrong

[midnight spoke]

Kek

They have a form of 'pod' inside of them, the white spheres

Could be deposits of fat or something for energy

[vagrant lynx]

or eggs 😖 😖 😖 🤔 🤔 🤔

[atomic tree]

Well, in the AMA tab one of the devs heavily hint that is " some sort of parasitic eggs"

[midnight spoke]

Good to know

inb4 every time you're bitten or a shooter's pod hits you, one of those is pushed into your body

[lilac island]

I think it's most likely some sort of parasitic egg

[vernal cosmos]

The physiology of the mutant things is interesting to me. They're oddly hollow. They have a skeletal structure but, with the exception of their mouth and tentacles/tongue, they don't have organs.

It's just meat.

[thorny ridge]

I mean we don't know how many years they've been down there or how they're Mutated.

[eternal sapphire]

Hentai Monsters op

[last saffron]

[austere shard]

All in favor for the hentai gone wrong theory to be canon?

[atomic tree]

pls no

[austere shard]

LMAO

[last saffron]

[coral pilot]

Cogito, so that would means the Parasite or Fungus may have eaten all the internal organs to replace them

[last saffron]

taking on all our bodily functions would be tough, so im guessing the thing only keeps what is vital for its hosts existence, rather than taking on every single function our insides provide

[eager vale]

i doubt that there's much left of the original host organs actually

i mean just that tongue thing alone the strikers use would take up way too much space

[last saffron]

it can compress itself quite hard from what ive seen, akin to real life parasites (an example are the parasites which infest praying mantis') so i assume it potentially coils itself around, in imitation of how our own intestines are

especially since the glow, better seen at strikers, actually moves up from your lower abdomen, where your intestines are

[turbid ridge]

went exploring again

noticed this

the terminals are CNTRL but are almost rebranded as santonian

[opaque pond]

If it can essentially BE the vitals, all it really needs is a meat suit made of skin, muscle and bone to wear. Slowly steal nutrition from the host and use it to rework it's shape over time, eventually overriding the central nervous system and replaceing or with its

[last saffron]

thats only its corpus. A dell pc doesnt necessarily mean everything inside it is made by dell too, OS too

[turbid ridge]

i mean, kinda still the same thing

[last saffron]

pc internals and corpus are nowhere near the same thing

one is much, much harder to produce

the case, not corpus, accidentally spelt it in a different language

[turbid ridge]

oh lol

i was googling it like wtf

[tall anchor]

interesting

CNTRL also made some power boxes too

[opaque pond]

You wind up on a morrowind wiki for corprus

[peak lake]

The bigger mobs look like clickers from last of us

[turbid ridge]

yeah there's a link above with all the minor companies

minus the picture Archive linked

for the reactor company

[tall anchor]

yeah

[last saffron]

the operating system they use is probably santonian made, even though we only see the uh

bios of it, not the full program

[tall anchor]

not to mention that the keys are santonian

they replace the wondows key

and fn

[turbid ridge]

there is a santonian logo on the console screen

[turbid ridge]

and on the keyboard lol

[tall anchor]

yea

[turbid ridge]

i've been trying to find secret commands on this thing lol

but i'm not well versed

[last saffron]

i doubt theres any this early on

[turbid ridge]

wonder if there's any significance to the squares at the bottom right... one being a plus

[last saffron]

they change into + from time to time since the screen is fully animated

[turbid ridge]

i've been staring at this one for awhile. same one is a plus that's all rest are squares

[lost forge]

Maybe it’s showing the terminals in that sector and the plus is the one in use, idk it being a plus doesn’t seem like much to me but it’s an interesting idea and I wouldn’t put it past any small detail to mean something

[turbid ridge]

well there's 10 and i think there's not that many terminals in any level

[lost forge]

Yeah agreed but I meant like in the “whole sector” including the dead-ended halls and everything, so even the parts we aren’t able to reach within the game level. sry wasn’t very specific lol

Was just trying to think of a reason only one would be a plus while the others inert - hmm

[turbid ridge]

possibly but listing the terminals only lists 3 in this level. althought offline's may not be recognized, so sure, there's a chance you're right, but we all speculatin anyway

[lost forge]

Yeah for sure

In a really bright room at work so it’s hard to really look at the terminal picture haha

What level are you in with that terminal? B2 by chance?

[turbid ridge]

i think it says top right.. A2

[lost forge]

If the squares go from left to right then down, could mean A1, A2, B1, B2, etc. to E2 assuming we’re still working with the rundowns going to E

Ah ok nvm then lol

Ah yeah I see the A2 now

[turbid ridge]

wait no

i'm in A1 and it says A2

not my picture tho

but still contradicts your theory

[lost forge]

Yep definitely

[turbid ridge]

looking at all these hsu's like 80%+ are over 50years old people, interesting

at least this go round

the one it wants a sample from is a 15 yo... wonder if a young specimen is always perferered

nope, 15, 28, 54... no correlation really

male and female mix

found another company name on the back of a light. Looks like Vedder

[lost forge]

Eddie vedder really branches out in the future huh

[turbid ridge]

lol

hey slammin

check this out

another company name

Vedder is on a spotlight... and grohl is on like a big machined looking bass drum. hmmm

[dense saffron]

With the terminal side bar it seems to hint at possible future commands, I'd assume we'll find terminals connected to the "Interbase" which is where we will get audio logs / other lore pieces from

Theres also the "transport" system which might let you do some sort of minigame to move supplies to your area

I'm not sure what the "Zone Index" would be, maybe a full map of the level?

[turbid ridge]

transport system may refer to the claw we ride in on

[opaque pond]

In before tram defense mission

[lost forge]

Hahah that’s awesome gotta love the devs

[turbid ridge]

santonian is also like a dino age or something crazy

[last saffron]

doubt the transport is related to our lil drop, internal railways maybe

the biggest drill in the world as example is riding a rail or so

Santonian is a timescale somewhere in uh

Cretaceous or so

upper

i remember its distinguished due to appearance of a type of mollusks, and an extinction event

[opaque pond]

Sleepers are mollusks, confirmed

[lost forge]

Looking at Wikipedia, the santonian age was host to a number of squamates (collective term of squamata- largest order of reptiles). In GTFO we have SQUADmates. Coincidence?????

All joking aside I am interested in just how deeply connected santonian is to the mine. I remember reading here the other day how we posited that santonian as a company was solely created for this specific mining operation - I’m excited for the possibilities in that background

[last saffron]

not sure whats the source on that. Santonian atm has 3 names total:

1. Santonian Mining Industries, as seen in the complex
2. Santonian Strategic Investment group, as seen in the irl site
3. Santonian Industries, as the main page of the site says

http://santonianindustries.com/

2 and 3 technically can be merged, as theyre part of the same thing

[turbid ridge]

irl site?

[lost forge]

Hm so are they a mining company first and foremost, with a strategic investment group instituted for deciding how to deal with what they find down there? Or is the mining company just an offshoot of the greater santonian industries, a byproduct of the strategic investment group determining that its worth digging there? The logo on still hints towards the mining company being their main thing but still

[real hill]

@last saffron Technically all 3 can be merged from a service management perspective.

[last saffron]

Strategic Investment Group is an actual entity in real life

[real hill]

minining is an industry, and you need service desing and strategy to implement a service such as mining.

[last saffron]

Strategic Investment Group (also known as Strategic Investment Partners, Inc. or SIP) is an American investment manager with approximately US$ 37 billion of assets under management.[1] The company is credited for pioneering the fund of funds investment strategy. SIP was founded in 1987 by six executives from the pension investment group of the World Bank.

[real hill]

yes so they could potenitonally be the stakeholders who invest in a business.

such as the mining company.

to deliver the serivces(resources..w.e gatherred) to a customer.

[last saffron]

by definition a strategic investor is in most cases a corporate investor

[real hill]

yes.

[last saffron]

investing into companies with the goal of acquiring them later on

[real hill]

some yes.

some like to just have residuals/royalties.

and dont want to manage them just collect money from them .

instead*

[turbid ridge]

where does SIP tie in? i'm not seeing it connected anywhere

[real hill]

There the investment group.

Some business need stakeholders to help them aquire business deals.

[last saffron]

oh just noted, decided to see if strategic investors group is a definition or not, and they popped up

[turbid ridge]

i don't need more info on them

i want to know where it's presented ingame or about the game

[real hill]

its not in game lol

[lost forge]

It was from the website ARG thing

[real hill]

were just discussing possible real life-to in game corelations.

yea

its cool.

[lost forge]

Regarding Bishop, specifically

Oh wait do I need to be spoilering that?

[turbid ridge]

i saw it

[real hill]

this is lore chat nothing to spoil

[last saffron]

a mod posted that anyone heading here should be aware of spoilery stuff so its fine

[real hill]

🙂

[lost forge]

Sweet tyty

[brittle knot]

Where can I find the story presentation thingy?

[last saffron]

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1D2mdwwY2EvieuvQ3twaa1X-OU-kaUCdhxr6hqIZRfqg/edit?usp=sharing

[brittle knot]

appreciate it!

[floral plaza]

Very informative. I knew there was another reason for the characters to be chosen. They just seem too hand picked.

[glad shore]

So we made it to C1 yesterday, tried C2 and failed, but some stuff I noticed that's... Creepy. The ceiling section, it breathes. Not all at once, so it might be that something is moving inside it too, but the ceiling will extend and retract slowly.

As well, the spikey guys are covered head to toe, but it looks like whatever they're covered in is moving on their bodies after death. It's not a normal liquid stain, or like tar, it's like it's some sort of coating that's alive almost.

[vagrant lynx]

@last saffron nice google doc so far... please cover the other companies when you can! and let me know if i can help in any way with it in dm

[glad shore]

And yeah, the doc is good. It's nice to see data compiled like that.

[lost forge]

Do we assume the intent for the ceiling stuff is to be a sort of zerg creep? In that case it would make sense for things to be moving inside of it, maybe not entities but some sort of nutrients being delivered

[vagrant lynx]

well there a few things, 1 its babies, 2 its like zerg creep and similar to how xenomorphs terraform the environment, 3 something special to that level is going on, 4 queen?? ( which could be #3 as well or could be the big queen of em all)

i want to go to c2 and study it more

[lost forge]

“Study it more” famous last words

[vagrant lynx]

indeed.... serve the hive

[lost forge]

I originally expected to find that stuff throughout D1 and D2 but it’s interesting it’s not. Originally was thinking like creep so there would be more the deeper you went

[vagrant lynx]

well im worried its unique for plot purpose which is even more scary

[lost forge]

Exactly

Proximity to a reactor?

[vagrant lynx]

reproduction is bad for us humans.... infestating existing humans is controlable with safeguard in place or extermination

[lost forge]

Oh wait what’s the meter difference in depth between C and D?

[vagrant lynx]

its concerning that the reactors are down there. for many reasons

[last saffron]

200 meters

approx

[lost forge]

Gotcha thanks

[vagrant lynx]

could feed off major power lines

[last saffron]

842 for D1

624 for C

[vagrant lynx]

i wonder what look down refers too... feel like we've missed it so far

[glad shore]

You mean look up? When you encounter the spiked ones for the first time, look at the ceiling. There’s a hole with the biomass in it. It’s probably that.

[vagrant lynx]

nooo down... read the level pic he posted above again 🤔😫

[last saffron]

theres actually 2 masses

one is behind a security door

[glad shore]

It say’s don’t look up man.

[last saffron]

nothing in the pics i posted says look down

[opaque pond]

Worms

[lilac island]

Yeet up

[coral pilot]

I think he is trying to understand why you should look down, because logically if you don't look up you look down, but there is nothing to do with looking down honey, they just don't want to look up at the ||BioMass after the black spiked guys||

Hope that answered ya @vagrant lynx ^^

[last saffron]

"logically if you dont look up you look down"

we reached peak lore discussion

[coral pilot]

Well for Dru it may be logical.. eh...

[glad shore]

Heh, could be worse. Could be counting fingers on the infected or something.

[last saffron]

i must depart for warden things, do not tear the channel apart while im absent

[lost forge]

tears one tiny corner of the channel apart

[lilac island]

Perfect

[vagrant lynx]

@coral pilot dv im wondering why the intro text for the level says dont look up and dont look down... maybe they just mean the drop into the complex, up i get i was there 😖

[prime silo]

I think those are transmissions the warden picked up before us.

[deep tulip]

whats the best level so far for you guys?

[prime silo]

B1.

[naive kindle]

C2 thicc, C1 mindless fun, B1 pretty hype, I need to re-run B2 to get a fresh opinion, havent attempted D1 yet ||lore-wise C2 is deep||

[prime silo]

B1 is the best because its so calm.

[vagrant lynx]

all the levels are unique. i have enjoyed how A1 builds into using your new skills on B1 to finally proving you get it on B2, to suddenly not being sure how to C1 to feeling prepared for anything except C2 to finally FINALLY hitting D1 only to get sideswipped by the challenges and difficulties there.

am i ever going to feel like an expert? comfortable? or am I doomed to die alone in a dark foggy room screaming my last words at my teammates:

[turbid ridge]

@vagrant lynx where do you keep seeing dont look down? It says up thrice

[carmine hollow]

For a more child friendly title we should rename the game to "Leaving With Great Haste"
Kappa

[last saffron]

[turbid ridge]

Only if you always want your kids sleeping in your bed and waking up in a sweat....

[carmine hollow]

Lamo

[lilac island]

“Speedy Evacuation”

[carmine hollow]

Wait...

*Lmao

Or better yet...

In Captain Price: "We are LEAVING!!!"

[lilac island]

I always wondered what makes that unearthly roar we hear in the game sometimes

If not the big chonks, then maybe whatever made the hole in the first place

[last saffron]

apparently..scouts. i tested it over and over and for some reason when a scout dies when alert/stepping on a mine theres a roar echoing from somewhere behind you

the roar doesnt happen if it gets hammered however

[turbid ridge]

I think its just to notify you, the horde is coming from this direction

[regal pumice]

So just to sum up my entire theory regarding the storyline itself.
The environment we are in is located inside the Yucatan Peninsula Crater. The area has been purchased by a Company known as “Santonian Industries”. They are from what I gather, a mining company. Their primary goal was to locate the asteroids core that landed here in order to gather the minerals. The facility continued to harvest the ores without a problem for some time. However little to their knowledge, a bacteria of sorts that laid dormant for millions of years has steadily awoken thanks to the newly supplied air. They could only be transferred via physical touch from point A to point B. As the miners continued to work in the environment the bacteria managed to spread to the entire facility. The side effects were not so obvious back then but like cancer cells, they got large enough to start to cause dramatic health problems.

And to which the entire facility had to shut down and evacuate the area. This is when the scientific departments came to take over (the names I am not certain of yet). The entire place was in lockdown in order to prevent the spread of the bacteria. Keep in mind that I am calling it bacteria for now as I am still not sure as to what it could be. However going back to the scientific company I believe that there is more than one company here. This could be a group of teams from other countries world wide. And I believe the name of the main company could be “Chirano Group” as the reactor has their signature. The reactor could be the key thing that was brought it a while later to assist with the facilities program. This is where “The Warden” which I believe to be the AI that manages the environment and assists with the studies. Speaking of studies the miners were subjected to tests to better understand the bacteria. Those who were becoming severely ill were put in cryogenic containers to examine. Some time later a sort of cure was uncovered which was tested on the subjects. It seemed to work but right after they were twice as bad and at this stage the mutations began. Those who were mutating were also being held in the cryogenic containers for sampling. While the search for the cure continued, each human test ended up in different side effects with each version of the cure. Bodies were changing shape and overgrowing. Eventually the bacteria took over entirely. And a steadily growing mutations developed with each subject. Unfortunately the facility could no longer be contained, and The Warden, being in control over the facilities technology, locked it down.

Those who remained inside were forced to continue the research. Over time the mutations came out of hand. And in a short period the remaining survivors would be turned to. And soon after due to lack of hosts. The bacteria went back into “hibernation”.
Now keep in mind that this doesn’t explain everything. I’m throwing this out here which might turn a rock over to uncover what could actually be the case.

[last saffron]

@turbid ridge the strange thing is, it doesnt happen after scout screams, it happens exactly when scout dies, even if the summoned horde already arrived

could be a bug

[regal pumice]

What if it’s connected to a hive mind?

[last saffron]

a hive mind would alert every single thing there is if that was the case, which is the main issue

unless it works like Tyranids synapse, in that it needs relays to function properly

Tyranids in short rely in specialized organisms which serve as a link between all of them and their originators, Norn queens. if said organism dies, the link is severed and they revert to animalistic behavior until another synapse creature wrangles them in

[regal pumice]

Which somewhat explains the aggressions

But it would make sense if the scout was dead from the start

[last saffron]

well, nids are always aggressive. it just they cannot utilize tactics without a relay organism

[regal pumice]

I figured it out.

It’s the flood

The Halo story continues

[opaque pond]

That'd imply some sort of gravemind scenario which would be.... boring

[uneven lion]

How to pass B2

fanks

[turbid ridge]

Maybe have someone stand at our landing point when a scout is about to die. The hole resembles a big mouth.

[stable jewel]

Do we know about any of the status effects post-match and what they mean?

[last saffron]

for now flavor text because theyre randomized on each start up

[stable jewel]

Ah, so no real gauge on performance or anything.

Sad days.

I figured that mental stability would've been "friendly fire amt.", Infection level would've been something related to downs or amount of damage taken during the entire mission, and NRV probe reaction being related to time spent in the mission? Dunno. Seemed like a pretty reasonable assumption.

[wooden latch]

I think the only thing that is dependent on the mission performance is vitals. The lower your health the closer to critical it gets. When you finish a mission while others are downed, their status will say deceased.

[glad shore]

Though my favorite infection and mental level is “unknown” especially when it shows up for both on one person.

[opaque pond]

Vitals: unknown, player gets thrown into a single player escape mission xD

[proven cave]

ok so

What does GTFO (the title of the game) actually stands for

pls dont stay Get the fck out

[last saffron]

?t gtfo

[cloud swift]

The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

[proven cave]

ehhh

[opaque pond]

It basically stands for get the fuck out

[proven cave]

yeah xD

was gpnna say

what else was it gonna be

[last saffron]

it does but at the same time doesnt

a mystery

[opaque pond]

Anything beyond that is just a back and forth of artificially deep semantics

[proven cave]

Grand Tourismo Friday Opening

[vagrant lynx]

gtfo= getting to find out ....

whats a scout do? GTFO the hard way!

[opaque pond]

That just made me think, it'd be fun to have some enemies that aren't necessarily obvious in how you should interact with them. Like a scout, it telegraphs what it does very clearly. Any with a modicum of deductive reasoning would know not to let the feelers touch you

But what if there's an enemy that might have several different behaviors that aren't obvious based on their appearance

[vagrant lynx]

could be to frustrating for players in that case.... more dynamic enemies might be good like how scouts have a fixed patrol path...instead unfix it so they go randomly around in the room.

[opaque pond]

Yeah something like my idea would be an enemy that doesn't necessarily show up in the worst of areas, or the differences aren't huge

[atomic tree]

Glowsticks (&) Tragic Fighting Odds

[opaque pond]

Some games I've played have the idea, but stock sleepers who mutate in different ways, one in any crowd, could work. For example, if alerted, the sleeper takes damage and folds back and erupts into a giant meat bulwark, potentially screwing with turret efficiency

[lost forge]

I had though about something akin to Mr. X or Nemesis from RE only instead of hunting you it would roam room to room. Maybe only a certain % chance of spawning into the level or something. Could possibly buff the health and strength of nearby sleepers or whatever so you can close doors in a way to maybe herd it into certain rooms you’re done looting

[opaque pond]

If stealth killed, they just die rather than mutating and dicking you over

[lost forge]

Maybe act as a kind of Zerg Overlord

[vagrant lynx]

mutations on existing monsters that change how they interact in some way... could be interesting if done right

[opaque pond]

You kinda gave me an idea, Slammin, might make a "drawing " of it later after work

[lost forge]

Awesome I’d love to see it when it’s ready if you want to share

[vagrant lynx]

well like what if scout tendrils dont reach as far, so his whole cycle is faster as a result then right? makes it harder to stealth kill him... or what if rangers missles fire twice as fast but do half damage...and the missles are green in color instead of a warm yellow

those kinda cues

[opaque pond]

Yeah things like that, too

[vast lance]

What do you think of the idea that, there is a split society in the gtfo universum.
An upper class lead by something like a king and his man, one of his man is the warden who is sending down the prisoners to obtain informations from facilities that had been overrun by the sleepers.
The lower class would be the people held as prisoners, they are being improsioned and are not able to free themself since the upper class got everything automated with robotors and a full monitoring of the prisoners.

[vagrant lynx]

well. we just don't know enough yet

[vast lance]

Additionally I would like to add the idea of the sleepers being drawn to the facilities and reactors using some dark matter which attracts them.

[vagrant lynx]

theres a nuke symbol on the rods for the reactors

[vast lance]

As far as I know theres no written story, so I try to do some fan fiction.

[vagrant lynx]

its all good :)

[vast lance]

:p

[vagrant lynx]

you should watch some of the alpha stuff. theres a video where one of the players characters narrates

its mostly about the monsters

[vast lance]

You seem like following gtfo for a longer time, would you say this story would stay in conflict with whats known atm.

[vagrant lynx]

its hard to say. we need to know a few things first. 1- what is the warden, 2- is earth still populated? 3- why prisoners are being sent in and not the army?

what happened to the companies who built the complex

[vast lance]

Indeed theese are important questions, is there a dedicated dev for story writing?

[vagrant lynx]

duno

[vast lance]

Lets ping the devs

[vagrant lynx]

im sure they have blueprint behind the scenes

you can pop into the amba room, sometimes they come to chat there

[lost forge]

There is a dedicated dev for story

[vast lance]

didnt knew theres an amba chat

Story or game design?

[severe vapor]

wheres the amba room? How to enter it?

[lost forge]

@vast lance https://www.10chambers.com Simon Viklund - Story

[late prawn]

Its just an Ambassador chat, only adds another chat if people want to talk about different things

[vagrant lynx]

#amba-general

[lost forge]

So he’s our guy

[late prawn]

You can't see it if you don't have the ambassador role though

[vast lance]

@SimonViklund#86

[last saffron]

id rather not.

[vagrant lynx]

i forgot about ambassador role...

[vast lance]

I am joking

How do I ge the role

[late prawn]

#become-an-ambassador

[languid walrus]

How come it says Entrypoint B3?

Does B3 correspond to the expedition number?

Because B3 doesn't exist.

[last saffron]

dont think it refers to a place

as in a place in the complex

[lilac island]

@languid walrus could do. I'm calling it now, Devs have made a few more maps for the rundown. The maps we got are a taster and is to give them overall feedback on what they should or not do.

[languid walrus]

They said the rundown will stay as it is until holiday break is over.

[lilac island]

@languid walrus of course!

[lost forge]

It might be referring to the entry point used for retrieving that prisoners HSU

Could be a totally different area than where the rundowns take place

For all we know the prisoner HSUs were delivered to the complex from elsewhere

[tall anchor]

I think there's some bugs in the names of the rundown stuff

oh wait that

I think there's several entry points to the complex

and we'll see some other stuff in other rundowns that are much different to other ones

ZOne numbers are "level" specific too

[vagrant lynx]

who says B3 doesn't exist?

we just haven't been there yet

[vagrant lynx]

we know there are floors A-E so far. we know its a big underground area. both deep and wide.

[vast lance]

Is it the same every time?

Every rundown

[late prawn]

Their intention behind the rundown system is to have new maps/objectives after a set period of time

[vast lance]

I expect it to be a different facility then

[opaque pond]

The facility is gargantuan

Sorry, The Complex

[late prawn]

Who knows, but then again we don't know how much we get access to. Maybe there's multiple drop points for each floor/zone, I suppose hence why there's a B1 and a B2

There's text in game that confirms B3 existing

[opaque pond]

We can start doing rundowns into 'The City' instead

[late prawn]

So theoretically we could get several sectors for each floor

[last saffron]

theres no text confirming B3 exists. the start up may not be even referring to anything building related.

Considering were dealing with a cortex, it might be referring to one of its areas, it might be pointing at one of the 4 holes you emerge from

it might be just an archive section for your data.

[late prawn]

You're right, I'm just correlating based on the name of each sector. But time will tell

[vagrant lynx]

don't assume there is a city. or people on earth...were not 100% this is earth still

or that if it is earth... we didn't ruin it... all we see is grey skies and rain...

[vast lance]

I think its supposed to be earth

Btw what does hsu mean

Health System Unit ?

[late prawn]

Hydro Stasis Unit

[vagrant lynx]

it appears to be a water based stasis unit. but its not clear if its short / med / long durations

[vast lance]

I guess its long else it would be senseless

[vagrant lynx]

could be short term during travel. for example 2 week trip from alpha centauri to sol system

[vast lance]

Ah "short"

I guess the Hsu in the facilities are there for a long time

[last saffron]

tech like that would be god sent for medicine

[vast lance]

Why

[last saffron]

not only it can keep your patient suspended, the pods also tell you their status, gives an xray, shows any and all activity

sometime theres simply not enough time to stop and take a course of action, especially if you have multiple people in dire need at once

being able to secure them for atleast a bit would give a much needed reprieve

[vagrant lynx]

on one of the levels the terminal will tell you some hsu pods are normal or malfunctioning

[vast lance]

I think they get older anyway

[last saffron]

aging is not the point. it keeps them suspended. considering the degree of control warden has, youre not in hands of fate anymore

whoever operates the pod decides when the occupant wakes up, while always having a full status on how theyre doing

[odd yarrow]

So, has anyone worked out what that big tentacle facehugger thing at the end of the trailer is yet?

[tall anchor]

nop

[last saffron]

cant really say much about it. its connected to something, has a handprint on it..and thats it

[odd yarrow]

Hm.. Interesting. Well, I suppose the handprint suggests that it literally swallows people like a snake?

[last saffron]

too small for that

[odd yarrow]

Hmm, yeah.

Well I'm pretty hyped because I absolutely love the monsters designs in this game

[odd yarrow]

Yep, just had a look at the trailer myself, slowed it down and I can see it now.

I have a morbid curiosity about what it could be.

[late prawn]

A lot of the common enemies have a long tongue that they use to attack with which have mouth openings on the ends

So I think that is just an early version of the same thing

[last saffron]

the early design for striker tongues had no mouth on its tip

[odd yarrow]

You could be right actually. Though the way they dedicate a few individual moments to it in the trailer and such suggests it could be it's own creature, I'm not sure yet. Either it's one of those tongues or they went full facehugger most likely.

[late prawn]

Maybe so, that trailer is 2 years old now; so I think its just lots of changes were made

[last saffron]

now the striker tendril is this

[odd yarrow]

Glowy.

[last saffron]

the tendril is its own thing, the gif for it is labeled "walking around lonely will punish itself"

i find it interesting that rundown showcase video had the complex in a different proportions

and now its this

[bronze plume]

ligma

[last saffron]

[vast lance]

@last saffron its obiously for christmas

[vagrant lynx]

i sure hope there isnt a face hugging tentacle that comes from nowhere and gets me in game 😖 😱

[bitter nexus]

looking at the topography of the facilities, that Archive Unit posted
Makes me wonder if this is the same location, perhaps there was more discovered or were at a different one...which might not be too unreasonable since the beginning we always pop out of our hydro stasis pod.

[turbid ridge]

I got the impression it was just 1 facility, and only multiple tasks from the vids. Just my hunch.

[vagrant lynx]

its only 1 place. the complex. so far

[lilac island]

aptly named, from what I've seen this place is laid out like the architect went on a coke binge before drawing it up

They've showed the other rundowns when in the run explain video on YouTube.

[vagrant lynx]

remember that in part the complex is amining venture

and probably a research hub too.

[frigid beacon]

Man this payday 3 is somehow taking a wilder turn

/s

[tired mortar]

XD

[vagrant lynx]

payday 3 sleepers edition

[fallen pendant]

lmao

[frigid beacon]

I'm sure this ALL ties into the Kataru....

The big dudes do look like Nephilim...

[whole axle]

The Warden is just Bain after the payday gang retired

He's had to resort to convicts and criminals or whoever the hell we are to do his dirty work

[languid walrus]

No it's not.

It's The Dentist.

You didn't actually kill The Dentist,

It was a full body double you killed instead.

[vast lance]

Omg it makes sense, you have been improsioned for making bank heist and now you need to make this sneeky bank missions

Well not bank missions you het what I mean

[wooden latch]

Lmao we're the people that were arrested in Payday

[lament fjord]

wtf

thers cutscnes in game?

[fallen pendant]

theres cutsense in gtfo???

[vast lance]

Lmao its just the trailer

[lament fjord]

oh

boo then

[last saffron]

i dont think gtfo need cutscenes

half life did those exceptionally well, youre always in control as opposed to getting snapped and control of your character taken away

even during the drop sequence in gtfo you have some form of involvement, being able to look around

[vast lance]

And turning your flash light on and off

[lilac island]

Speaking of what Archive said the "Cutscenes" so to say is when your dropping the:

[Unintelligible.... Gunfire]
[Screams]
Everyone Is Dead....

That imo gives more atmosphere to the game than any voice acting dialog

[last saffron]

it is, especially since its coming from your predecessors AND from inside the complex

[atomic tree]

Oh I thought the transcripts was from different recordings during the initial breakout. Like the only way for the expedition crew to know what's going down there before going in themselves. So you hear security officers and workers and not previous expedition teams. Like it doesn't make any differences lore wise, but I find that more moody for some reason.

[median basin]

Yoyo

I proposi

Propose

[last saffron]

how funny

[median basin]

I was hacked sorry

[uneven turret]

F1 what's down there?

[atomic tree]

Misery

[brittle jacinth]

atleast 2 dead bodies

[brittle jacinth]

"The warden" is a bot on the discord, perhaps...

[vagrant lynx]

the warden monitors all

[raw dune]

D1 https://discord.gg/F6gafK 109775241074934809

[atomic tree]

@raw dune wrong chat buddy

[raw dune]

oooops hahahha

thx

[vagrant lynx]

@atomic tree what if you and i are in the wrong chat channel??? 🤔

[atomic tree]

Oh boi

[shadow igloo]

so what do we think of the possibility of multiple bore holes? iirc in one of the C levels you extract in a seperate location

[atomic tree]

There is a handy drawing in this chat, I've made, that also present same idea

[somber lark]

So hey, are all the players remote control dummies and that's why the neural link is necessary?

[last saffron]

if they were meat puppets they wouldnt have any personality. Cortex Interface is more of an observation tool if anything

[opaque pond]

The neural link is to monitor the prisoner's stability... and subsquently override failsafes in place on them when the Warden says "f*ck it"

or at least implied

[somber lark]

I was thinking more along the lines of, real prisoners are in cryostasis somewhere. There seems to be a lot of bodies in cryostasis or something like it. Then instead of sending different soldiers in only to have them slaughtered, they send in meat puppets controlled by experts without them realizing they are in puppets?

They are named after all.

Same four personalities, swapping through puppets.

[last saffron]

that would remove any risk and ultimately defeat the point of the game. and it would be extremely difficult not to realize something is off.

especially considering Dauda is black.

it was stated by devs that the main 4 are not some highly trained soldiers. theyre just random people, scavengers being held against their wills

the main 4 are not the only team being sent down, its just the story is focused on them

[somber lark]

Less trained in the sense that army and stuff, more trained in the sense through repeat encounters with sleepers and such.

Also if it's about keeping prisoners, they they would be forever captive due to death not being a release.

Not sure if it's true or not, just interesting to think about.

[last saffron]

it still ultimately renders the entire thing entirely risk free if they just pop into a new body each time. theres no stakes in that, you just turn into a dark souls character who will succeed through sheer fact they can just go again and again and again

[lilac island]

"You Died...."

Should scroll across your screen

[somber lark]

What if they had no idea they were meat puppets though. 🤔 It's a little far fetched because I think I remembering them talking about the warden. So they must at least know a bit about what's happening.

But if neural linking does exist, what's to stop the warden from tampering with their memories.

[last saffron]

that still means theres no risk, even if they dont realize. As i explained, giving them new body everytime just means they literally cannot fail. Death no longer has any meaning, as you just put them into a new body and send them again, you dont lose anything as the "new" body can just take stuff off the old corpses, or finish the task the first "bodies" didnt manage.

the chars havent mentioned warden in anything yet, they have ties to Santonian though

like Bishop is in Santonian websites source code

Hackett has santonian logo on his chest

[somber lark]

Yeah... Thats the point though, to remove risk.

[last saffron]

that literally defeats the entire game

if you know you cant fail, victory no longer means anything. it becomes inevitability, you will always succeed given time, while also rendering the other prisoner teams kind of pointless since you can just have the 4 immortals do everything

theyres also not exactly Prisoners as in convicts, its more like a hostage situation for now

theyre being held against their will but theres no mention if theyre convicts. Documentary called them scavengers

[somber lark]

Not in removing risk from the prisoners, but from the warden. Having an immortal team who does your bidding would me super helpful in a situation like this.

[last saffron]

which is slightly confusing

as i said, then theres no game

the entire plot becomes "wardens team of immorals solve all its problems"

it loses all driving force

and also makes zero sense because why not just let highly trained people deal with it, making them full aware they cannot die, equipping them to the teeth

it spawns too many plotholes to deal with

[somber lark]

I'm not so sure about that.

Am busy, gimmie a minute.

[somber lark]

Ok, so here's what I'm thinking of. Warden came across these people through various means, whether they are survivors of some catastrophe or somehow wandered into the facility. Imagine Bishop was there when the (assumed) infection started spreading creating the sleepers. This is some sort of large company who obviously has the means to build facilities reaching deep into the ground. There must be something down there that was left behind and must be retrieved through any means necessary. Buying tons of soldiers is expensive, and loud. PR would be a nightmare. But people stuck in the facility, they can be used. So the warden, whatever it may be decides to link their brains into meat bags to complete objectives, like get a dna sample so they can venture further into the complex and whatnot. Lore wise, I think it makes sense for the warden to manipulate whatever pawns they have to complete these objectives. Currently we do not know what the Warden's end goal is. We do know these prisoners are being held captive. Is there a capacity for the prisoners to escape? Maybe. Who knows.

[coarse agate]

looking for 2 people

[somber lark]

#lfg-north-america

[floral plaza]

@coarse agate

?t lfg

[cloud swift]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake

[last saffron]

If you have tech which lets you magically just place a persons consciousness into another body, equipping an army would take as much effort as sitting down. you dont even need an army even, you just use the same ones over and over and give them tools each time. Private military companies are a thing in life too, Blackwater a prime example, with plenty of shady stuff noone bats an eye at so getting your own army wouldnt be much either. Hell, Pepsi at one point was considered 6th largest military force.

Sending an army into some god forsake hole wouldnt really cause that of a fuss either, we have Amazon literally work people to death an noone cares at all

Now, we have discussed why sending an army down would potentially result in a disaster of unimaginable scale, coming to conclusion small teams of expendables is much, much better for what we need

[south bobcat]

The meat grinder theory is really just as bleak as the conciousness transfer theory. The former is gruesome in its own right and presents an utterly hopeless situation to the convicts. The latter is an existential hell for those poor brains that have experienced being savagely murdered over and over. There’s no agency for the convicts either way, which is horrific.

And that’s a good thing!

[somber lark]

Could be interesting if like 2 or three years down the road theres a giant update where the convicts find their bodies (if the consciousness transfer theory is true), free themselves, and then have to fight back up on their own.

[last saffron]

that would be a direct copy of Evil Within

[south bobcat]

I prefer them having zero hope of freedom and being stuck in hell on earth. Horror.

[last saffron]

consciousness is a thing which is extremely hard to make sense of, we cant figure out still what makes ours tick. its related to the brain, but at the same time other things have brains almost on par as ours, and yet its almost exclusive to us

[somber lark]

If my theory is correct, then they don't know there are in meat bags. They just know their objective and the countless horrors they have faced. It reminds me of Dauda's monologue in the trailer where he talks about the screaming and stuff and then he's finally awake. Maybe their minds are being manipulated in some fashion. Each battle melds into the next and they no longer remember what has and hasn't actually happened. They are mentally unstable and this instability could be used further into the game to interesting effect.

Also if the Warden already caught and trapped them, what's to say he can't do it again Born To Die?

[late prawn]

I took the monologue from the trailer as a semi-meta statement. Since the characters in the game are the same everytime, but the people you play with may tend to change constantly. Not relevant to lore I guess, but a cool nod I suppose.

[somber lark]

It's still interesting.

[last saffron]

it still removes any sort of risk for warden, taking away the feeling of you failing having any consequence. itll just shrug "whatever" and repeat. a story where such a force literally has nothing to worry about is..not really interesting. you also cant gain any form of connection to your character if you know they arent going to cease to be, just a new body to go and thats it. you dont have to worry about them

them losing their memories each time also means you literally have no consequences to them either, no lasting experience. its roadhog day without the whole plot

its also make it strange for them to have exact same voices each time. your consciousness does not make your voice sound the way it is

[somber lark]

That's the point. The main goal of Warden is in risk minimization. Less people knowing of untold horrors, less bugs to squash out. What could be interesting down the road is if they somehow find out that they are just meatbags and they do somehow try and break free. Also I'm not saying complete memory deletion, but more of a rework. Where it's melded. The parts where they die, obviously deleted. Parts where they were caught, deleted. But the experience of going through the floors, over and over again. At some point it all just melts together and you don't remember what has actually happened.

Also test tube babies.

[last saffron]

that makes it even more boring than it already is

[somber lark]

It is A. Just a theory, and B. Only as boring as you see it as.

Just making assumptions based on the information I already have.

Where it is the first conclusion drawn, you can think of it as basic. I could be entirely wrong and the devs go some other way with the lore.

But with a game that's as repetitive as it is right now, I think it fills in the hole for now.

[late prawn]

I'll stick to my stupid gamer theory of there being thousands of clones of the same 4 people all being influence by different individuals from our universe 🤪 I just came up with that now and... it sounds dumber than I imagined actually

[somber lark]

Also if it's so boring, why play it?

tf2, overwatch, ect...

Wait, tf2 lore is actual clones right?

[cerulean forum]

u saying GTFO is repetitive?

[late prawn]

Uh no its something like all of their souls are bound to the Medic and he made a deal with The Devil or something... actually I'm having a headache thinking about it

[somber lark]

I mean kinda, but in a good way.

[cerulean forum]

the whole concept is repetitive as u get in and get ouyt

[somber lark]

It is repetitive, but It's not like repetitive repetitive...

[cerulean forum]

but the way u execute everything is different every level

[somber lark]

Yeah.

Rooms are changed up and that definitely helps.

[cerulean forum]

aswell as its not just re used mechanics

they add shit in the mix randomly to make it different

but still the same if that makes sense

[somber lark]

It feels like a mix of payday and deep rock galactic... I like both, but this is way more intense.

(When was the last time you went stealth in payday? 🙃 )

[cerulean forum]

I am loving GTFO and i have playd 14 hours trying to finish it still not done D1

[somber lark]

I'm still not passed A1 So you are a better gamer than I probably.

[last saffron]

payday stealth is some of the most hilarious there is

[somber lark]

ikr

[late prawn]

Ugh Payday Stealth

[somber lark]

Akimbo dodge builds...

[last saffron]

and then its lore went from robbing stuff to...government conspiracies and body take over

still cant understand what Overkill did there

[late prawn]

Every guard in payday: "What's that blue blur that just passed me for a moment... oh well must have been the wind."

[somber lark]

Yeahhh.

[vagrant lynx]

gtfo clearly is a super hero movie

but in a game format

[south bobcat]

There’s no reason for us to worry about what sort of tension/danger the Warden is experiencing. He’s an entity with designs. Whether his victory is inevitable or not is beside the point for the player.

[glacial veldt]

ALL OF THE "ALIENS" ARE ACTUALLY HUMANS

THE GOVERNMENT BANISHED ALL OF THE NERD NARUTO RUNNERS INTO THE UNDERGROUND

[last saffron]

They were never called aliens to begin with

[glacial veldt]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[last saffron]

oh boy.

[cerulean forum]

@glacial veldt Wtf u mean they were never aliens

they were always base humans

[last saffron]

this is why i wish this channel was Amba only

[glacial veldt]

THEY ARE NARUTO RUNNERS

[last saffron]

so haha funni people stay in general.

[cerulean forum]

lmao

[late prawn]

Not like it matters, everyone and their momma can get the role.

[last saffron]

brainlets for most part dont bother, which is a lil plus

a joke here and there is fine, but it gets tiring seeing the same garbage beaten to death over and over

[cerulean forum]

just a bunch of kids that let their mommy buy the game for them because they r irresponsible

although i probs cant talk considering im only 19

[last saffron]

Age doesnt really dictate maturity. if you know how to behave properly and interact, youre fine

[short quartz]

OH FUCK IT'S AREA 51 THE VIDEO GAME?!

[late prawn]

Well this discord isn't exclusive to owners of the game, but sure.

[last saffron]

here comes another one.

[cerulean forum]

yea tru

already also a bunch of trolls i have been hearing

[short quartz]

The only thing that would surprise me about a bunch of trolls in the game is if they made it any significant distance in

I could see B level, but not C. I don't think a regular troll has the patience to fuck around with your given group.

[cerulean forum]

doesnt matter as theres no limit to what expedition u can be carried up to

u can be on A1 and be carried to D1 cus one member has done it before

they will be fixing that thank god

[short quartz]

Something about GTFO's presentation pacified the go-to griefer in my group, so there's some element that prevents it. Something about how long it takes to properly do things. Although that's more off topic...

[late prawn]

I had this one kid join the VC I was using one time, it was really strange. He started going on about Santa Clause.. I lost my shit and we all left

[cerulean forum]

lets move to GTFO general

[last saffron]

i have become 200% sodium

[lofty wasp]

chloride

[vagrant lynx]

salt repels the monsters...

[alpine path]

I repel the monsters

i dont...really. please dont send me down

Your PC will sleep soon unless plugged into a power outlet

[whole axle]

and then its lore went from robbing stuff to...government conspiracies and body take over
still cant understand what Overkill did there```

@last saffron I loved the eldritch horror segments of PD2 though

And if you're here in GTFO you're gonna get more of that

The most basic enemy is a horrifying humanoid abomination that looks like some kind of demon took it over

[vagrant lynx]

fungal parasite is the running theory!

[whole axle]

Demonic fungal parasite

[vagrant lynx]

or space snakes...

[cerulean forum]

theres shit tons of theorys

[whole axle]

How do you ramp up a killer disease? Make it sapient

Nier did that

[cerulean forum]

I like the idea of how its a alien parasite/biowep made for conquering planets

[whole axle]

I mean humanity did all go extinct but that just means it was a really damn good demonic disease

[cerulean forum]

and the parasite is infected with alien virus's that affect us humans differently

[junior oasis]

hard to believe humanity would be made extinct by these enemies

a couple morons with hammers can slay hundreds of them

[vagrant lynx]

im sure they'll tell us more soon... there is the alpha trailer that has (hackett?) say some things too?

[whole axle]

Only because it's dark and they can't see you

[cerulean forum]

they are not used to light as they go into a state of sub-hibernation

[whole axle]

Once they do it's time to panic

[junior oasis]

doesnt matter if its dark they can barely see period

[cerulean forum]

they are away from UV rays like Titans from AOT

living creatures without light to absorb would need to conserve that energy they have

[junior oasis]

generally not having eyes is an adaptation for animals in extreme darkness

[vagrant lynx]

we dont know alot about thier physiology yet

[cerulean forum]

their pale shite skin

[whole axle]

I think it'd be a bit of a stretch to assume the types of enemies we've seen are all that exist

[cerulean forum]

no shit

[whole axle]

We don't even know what the thing is

[cerulean forum]

this is for theorys XD

[junior oasis]

we know they can barely see and react to sounds

[whole axle]

For all we know it could be "The Thing"

[vagrant lynx]

some people report you can make out eyes up close

[junior oasis]

even if the lights are on you can literally walk right up next to them

they are neither smart nor particularly astute in senses

[cerulean forum]

@vagrant lynx on shooty bitches and scouts u can makeout faces on them

hUMAN FACES

well yes they are smart as when their allies get barreled down infront of them

[vagrant lynx]

i wouldn't assume light makes them sleep. consider how they're placed about

[cerulean forum]

they avoid that path if possible

and stafe

[vagrant lynx]

who feeds them when they sleep?

[junior oasis]

presumably the previous 250 expeditions

[vagrant lynx]

are they like bears? sleep through winter?

[cerulean forum]

nothing But they conserve their energy

[vagrant lynx]

so then they must require food.... what is thier normal food?

[cerulean forum]

likely the parasite inside eats their insides

until the host Dies

[vagrant lynx]

a parasite requires a host to live

[cerulean forum]

who says they arent alive?

[junior oasis]

based on their color and lack of eyes they appear to be adapted for caves or deep underground

so photosynthetic ecosystem is out

[vagrant lynx]

symbiotic lifeforms can live inside a host unknowingly

[junior oasis]

yes but what does the host eat

[vagrant lynx]

maybe the are the creatures from the movie avatar??? 🤪 🤪 🙃

[cerulean forum]

maybe they eat corpses/other of their kind once they grow hungry

there have been a few SKeletons/torn/ravaged corpses around

[vagrant lynx]

why the different variations? why are rangers only female?

[junior oasis]

we know it is some sort of infectious agent

probably not a macro parasite because when you finish a mission it says "infection level" which can be low/high where a large parasite would basically be yes/no

[cerulean forum]

@vagrant lynx maybe the virus/parasite affects female hormones differently and the mutations as they grow of even the longer one is affected it will mutate overtime OR even mutate depending on blood type etc

[vagrant lynx]

but we dont know how you get infected? incubation period or end result and modifying factors

[cerulean forum]

@junior oasis could be in the form of a egg

[vagrant lynx]

is this thier final form?

[cerulean forum]

there was a infection smoke or someshit

someone found information about such fog

[vagrant lynx]

why do scouts stay awake? and have tentacles?

[carmine carbon]

you mean airborne virus or spores?

[cerulean forum]

@carmine carbon something like that

[junior oasis]

it's probably not airborne

[carmine carbon]

yeah unlikely

though the prisoners wear masks

[cerulean forum]

could of mutated mutations have nearly limitless possibilitys

[junior oasis]

if it was an airborne infectious agent you would need a full suit not just a breathing mask

[vagrant lynx]

doubt it was airborne. more likely a 1 time event

from below no less as indicated

[junior oasis]

I think it is spread on contact

you get a higher infection level at the end of missions if you get downed more often

enemy attacks are causing it

[vagrant lynx]

seems like the majority of people were turned in one go

[carmine carbon]

which would be very painful

[junior oasis]

we can't really know if they were turned in one go, or if it was an outbreak

infectious outbreak seems more plausible to me than some event instantly turned lots of people

but it seems odd that humanity could be threatened by enemies so easily dispatched

[vagrant lynx]

well there are corpses partially turned

which is odd

they dont appear to be attacked. they look to be cowering

[junior oasis]

if it's an infectious thing then corpses shouldn't be much affected

there are corpses in the levels

[whole axle]

There need to be more corpses tbh

[junior oasis]

what if the enemies are eating the corpses

[carmine carbon]

I guess is some weird stuff from outerspace since its in the crater which were created from an meteroid/asteroid (I can't distinguish them)

[junior oasis]

isnt this a giant underground facility?

[cerulean forum]

yes it is

[carmine carbon]

The Complex is reached at least 824 metres in to the deep

[junior oasis]

the really peculiar thing about that is the enemies don't seem to be much interested in doors, unless there is an alarm- so how come the facility is overrun?

supposing this began as an infectious outbreak

close the doors

problem contained

quarantine protocol

[cerulean forum]

@carmine carbon a asteriod is just a lump of rock while a meteroid is like a piece of a planet and other such things

[vagrant lynx]

hence a one time event as indicated by the damage in the shaft and every floor at start

[carmine carbon]

Maybe it infected all the inhabitants before the outbreak started?

[junior oasis]

@cerulean forum an asteroid is a space rock- a meteor is a space rock that hits Earth's atmosphere

[cerulean forum]

google lied to me

lmao

[vagrant lynx]

imo something happened>the central shaft was filled with a blast wave>everyone was turned>security doors closed somewhere in there

[lilac island]

A meteor is a space rock burning up in the atmosphere. If it contacts the ground, it is a meteorite.

[junior oasis]

the central shaft is the biggest enigma

infectious agent... somehow did that?

[vagrant lynx]

blast wave.
you can see melted metal

[junior oasis]

its very vertical for a blast

[vagrant lynx]

the shaft wasnt there before you can tell its aftermath

[carmine carbon]

maybe there is a machine or something simliar (alien artifact), somewhere deep in the complex which overloaded, created the shaft and spreaded/activated the agent

[junior oasis]

concussive blast would radiate out in all directions not this perfect vertical hole in all floors

whatever caused the shaft to exist is impossible with contemporary earth tech- even a giant space laser wouldn't do that

unless you built it that way on purpose

which seems unlikely

[vagrant lynx]

true

all the more curious

[carmine carbon]

Im also curious why they have fingers which looks like they have been bitten off

[vagrant lynx]

nail bitters anonymous

[junior oasis]

also curious why there apparently has been no attempt to build seals across the shaft to isolate floors

since the shaft is how they appear to travel

that would be the first step if you were to try to contain this

[vagrant lynx]

ccant close up if you need things down there

[junior oasis]

why not, just install a hatch

[vagrant lynx]

who says they'll crawl out into the light?

they may not be moving up at all... maybe down

[junior oasis]

either way, you would start by isolating one floor at a time

[carmine carbon]

yeah and they are quite passive

[vagrant lynx]

i dont think containment was planned

[junior oasis]

well this is considerably after the fact now right, enough time to build the cage and apparatus to lower it

[carmine carbon]

maybe the Warden wants to waste prisoners down there

[vagrant lynx]

||warden doors down there are curious||

clearly the warden has goals

down there too

[junior oasis]

making a barrier that is permeable to humans is really easy though, you just put some sheet metal with a hole in it

would make it a lot slower to get down there than the insane cage-on-a-crane method, but would be much safer

[carmine carbon]

Hidden Camera for the high society

[vagrant lynx]

unless you only care about obtaining the valuable items inside

screw the prisoners , screw the monsters... after all its a 2.5% survival rate right?

[carmine carbon]

which seems to be okay

[junior oasis]

it almost seems like the warden is nurturing the infection rather than trying to eliminate it though, as based on how effective 4 people with sledgehammers are, this infection would not be terribly hard to exterminate

[vagrant lynx]

is it an infection?

or is it that the HSU and end of level check for infections? and other bio data

[junior oasis]

you think the "infection" at the end of the level ISN'T the enemies are infected with something?

[vagrant lynx]

yes

i think its tracking something else.

[junior oasis]

oh by the way you got tetanus while you were the alien hellscape downstairs?

[carmine carbon]

the DNA Data in A1 is needed to access B1/2, while you need the PIDs in B1 and the DNA sample in B2 to access the powergrid in C1 and the decoder in C2 to access D1, where is a pathway

[vagrant lynx]

if the infection spread by being attacked, our 4 characters would be dead x10 over already right?

[junior oasis]

depends on how fast the infection progresses

mission takes 20 minutes, could easily be even if you got infected it takes longer than that

[vagrant lynx]

6 levels and multiple injuires? dead

so im not sure its "the infection" might just be monsters infect you as a defense but it makes you sick and die not turn

[junior oasis]

I mean it's possible, but Occam's Razor suggests it is probably some sort of related cause

[vagrant lynx]

@carmine carbon are you asking where is path to D1?

@junior oasis true

[carmine carbon]

according to the mission text of D1 "Deeper" there is a pathway located in D1

[vagrant lynx]

which feeds the alpha trailer dialogue

[carmine carbon]

FYI i havent played C2 and D1 yet

[vagrant lynx]

located out of D1 yes because the power was on now

they could get in i guess but not out the same way...before

power grid being off prob reset sub systems,power on = normal access.... || you see the hassle of the security subsytems on D1 during the reactor/terminal parts||

[dense roost]

go to c2 and look up when you see water drip

the whole ceiling is a mass of meat

[prime silo]

You just want me to get water in my eyes. 😠

[dense roost]

looks like were inside some giant sandworm

[carmine carbon]

sounds like Alien/Zerginfestation

[vagrant lynx]

naw... more like how in aliens movies they terraform

[dense roost]

not a good pic but meh

[junior oasis]

some sort of colony growing on the ceiling?

[vagrant lynx]

c2 is a speical area for a bunch of reasons

[dense roost]

its not growing, looks like its all around like the building was made inside it

[granite kettle]

How do you get to the lore?

[carmine carbon]

thats how the alien terraforming somehow works

[dense roost]

does not spread anywhere that has concrete, only were there should be "dirt'

[vagrant lynx]

might have beennplaced after the central shaft explosion

@granite kettle there isnt much yet, you can try the wiki, be warned of spoliers there and here in chat

[granite kettle]

Is it during gameplay?

[junior oasis]

inference from within the game

[vagrant lynx]

not really

[dense roost]

we are mining the alien matter for energy

the reactor runs on that

kek

[junior oasis]

unlikely

[granite kettle]

but how does it make mutants that shoot head lasers

[vagrant lynx]

there are some subtle things in game. we know its an underground mining complex at least it was

[dense roost]

all lockers says somethingsomething mining facility

[junior oasis]

well they arent shooting lasers thats for sure

quite slow projectiles actually

[granite kettle]

And they're using prisoners for labor

Plasma balls that home in?

[carmine carbon]

and there is a company called Santonian Bla?

[dense roost]

warden seems to be a rogue AI ?

[vagrant lynx]

one of the companies yes

[granite kettle]

So it's all inferred lore

[vagrant lynx]

we dont know its an Ai

[granite kettle]

Have you guys watched zygote

It's a short film by the guy who did District 9

[carmine carbon]

It can be an AI, but it also can be a person or a group

[granite kettle]

Also about a mining corporation and gross monsters

[junior oasis]

assuming the Complex is on Earth, it doesnt seem likely it was originally for mining

[vagrant lynx]

here's one for you: || why is the reactor in D1 still on? 😖 ||

[carmine carbon]

the complex is on earth

[dense roost]

cause the aliens feed of energy

kek

[vagrant lynx]

it says mining company on doors in the level

[dense roost]

just like that one series on amazon prime

[vagrant lynx]

@junior oasis

[granite kettle]

We're just D-class and this is an scp game

calling it now

[dense roost]

aliens feed of energy, either thermal, radiation or light

[vagrant lynx]

they don't seem to like light...

[junior oasis]

if you are mining for ore theres no need to build this enormous facility and have all these stasis pods

[vagrant lynx]

the alpha had science areas

[granite kettle]

there is if you're using prison labor

[junior oasis]

we would see a lot more bare rock and a lot less consuming that metal ore to build metal facilities inside a mine shaft

[granite kettle]

just thaw out a new one when you need more

alien cancer? throw more prisoners at it

[vagrant lynx]

still doesn't account for reactors either

[junior oasis]

probably just nuclear

[dense roost]

The alien matter corrupted warden ai and is using us to turn the reactor on again so it can grow kek

[granite kettle]

the reactors are to power the massive facility

[vagrant lynx]

yes they are its shown in game

yah but for what? cause its not mining

[dense roost]

prisioners dont retire

[junior oasis]

do we have any reason to believe those reactors aren't just nuclear reactors?

[dense roost]

why does the load screen say we should retire and warden overwrites to redeploy kek

cause warden is evil

[vagrant lynx]

cause we didnt pass the evaluation

[dense roost]

calling right now warden is evil

[vagrant lynx]

we just dont enough to be able to form an idea of what is happening

[granite kettle]

we're crazy prisoners

'retire' probably means

[junior oasis]

sledgehammer ninjas

[granite kettle]

kill

[dense roost]

WARDEN IS TOTALLY EVIL

warden text is red, thus evil

[carmine carbon]

going insane is the most sane stuff, when you go down there