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Unless we came back to earth
we only pick up dna from one
so the further u go down u see more enemys???
hydrostatis suggests just liquid supsended like matrix or something...
Yes
Maybe both, maybe the Warden needs those DNA for whatever reason
yeah there's a few more kinds
and probably more we haven't seen in the nexte rundowns
yea ok
Would it suggest that these containers hold these certain people?
yes
Yep
So that means no mutants
And HSU seems like the name they use to talk about the pods
haven't finished d1... bro let's go
But rather humans in cryogens
Well there is something I quite not understand
so if you click on a level before hosting a lobby it says more info for hte level
not alot but a little more
something to note
hydro-statis-unit
we come from HSU's at the beginning
Yep
so that infers the ones in game are humans as well
Meaning prisoners are inside an Hydrostasis state before being released
This feels like Maze Runner
So we are searching for the Administrator's DNA for the Warden
So we can access B1 and 2
The warden seems like an AI
Dunno, it can be, but we never really met him/her
This feels like Matrix and Maze Runner put together
So we are simply under the assumptions and manipulations of the warden as we head down there.
The information given to us can become unreliable if this is the case
Yap we are good little soldiers
My best guess is that The Warden is a sort of SCP esk entity that is trying to control a failed experiment but at the same time learn from its mistakes to a sort of more efficient experiment
Meaning the whole purpose of going down there is not to find what is going on. But rather fix something that has been done in the real wirld
I think the Warden might have a clue of what happened down there
@regal pumice but if no mutations why so many varietys unless they are doing animal testing but that doesnt explain goliath class enemys and scouts with sleepers/shooty bitches
Possibly genetic engineering on human beings
They are all human
B1 "PID search" for powergrid access, B2 "Officer" dna needed for powergrid as well. C1 "REconnect" prisoners overload powergrid to bypass to section D (note were at 842 meter). C2 "Decode" partial decoders to disperse the encryption matrix. D1 "Deeper" Accessing the powergrid to shut it down. still at 842m
But there seems to be varieties to the virus itself
So we all know for sure... That this might be a Mining Facility cover for a laboratory... right ?
Yeah
@pearl juniper doubtful as theres a meteor there
So... This laboratory is like, out of the laws then..
they could of done that ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD
we know its partially a mining company because the doors say so

Lol
But... What if they tried something like Jurrassic Park ?... What if they just tried to create superhuman, with Dino's DNA ?...
lmao!!!!
door says mining on it
Lel Mista, gotcha ma boi x)
still doesnt make sense to do it where a meteor landed
Well.. oh no
remember when this channel was about serious discussion and not memes left and right
So there is nothign to do with dino dino !
the feels @last saffron
Because this asteroid is nothing to do with dino, just their probable extinction
Real talk I really hope that the enemies are mutated experiments from whatever is left of the meteor that wiped out the dinos
Chixculub does have left others, theyre just on the edges of the crater
Like 115 from BO Zombies
I feel like the game is trying to hint at us by saying, it was not specifically the meteor but rather the content that arrived killed the dinos
@cerulean forum Alien dna can be implemented into anything containing dna. Maybe they were trying to make changes to the human genome for a specific gene but turned south during human trials or containment break. CRISPR-Cas9 is a genome editing tool that can be inserted in a viral capsid and injected into the subject. This means if it replicates and infects new hosts then it can continue the process.
digging up for fossils there would be a bit silly, since the impact was so hard pink granite was forced to surface
Wait... White did the game said that ?..
pink granite only forms deep in earth crust
It’s just speculation
EVERYTHING HERE IS SPECULATION!!!
perhaps they were mining to the meteor and when they got there, the exposure caused the mutations.
There's gotta be external influence to what made these things. Not just mixing up genetic code.
Some kind of hybrid dna or contamination
Yessem 🙂 im going to school to get a degree in molecular biology soooo if it is based on genome modification then this game will forever be my fav
I would wager that whatever was in the meteor could have been somewhat deep
Or maybe the built the facility underground to contain potential disaster
we do start above ground
I’m just waiting for the arrival of the worm
from millions of years ago
And the new scanner tool
So it would have to be burried under thousands of tons of dirts
A1 is above ground?
it isnt
Roogini nape sorry honey but if you're talking about the meteor it's just, impossible ^^
no no, every drop we start above
Its below ground
Object that caused the crater could have contained a virus thats only need is to replicate. The best viruses are those that can infect other organisms to facilitate the spread. Which was discovered by scientists and tried to harness it. But a famous quote from jurrasic park was “life finds a way”
@coral pilot wtf u mean
I thought thats how it worked
Lmao
because dust and junk just covers it more and more and more
I meant, if there is a crater, that means that something hit but didn't stayed, if there was a Hill, then that would mean the meteor stayed, but looking at the facts, it's a crater and well... when a meteor hit a planet, it just explode or go away ^^'
Exactly
thats why dino bones are underground
a virus wouldnt really arrive on a meteor alone
The meteor was rather big tbh
I just wanna know how some of these guys have their face split open like a hotdog bun and a set of teeth running vertically along their face
@wooden latch they are butface man
Still think it looks more like a fungus
God has left the discord
A Virus cannot exist without a host for long, and if such a virus arrives on a meteor it would likely arrive on an extremophile bacteria, and in turn wouldnt pose much risk to anything else but those bacteria since viruses only attack certain bacteria
Yep
Thats a good speculation @lilac island. But we havent seen anything that relates it to spores, which is how a fungus spreads
Well we could maybe
Clickers make noises because they cant see. if you remove the fungal growth they dont need to click.
I don't think it's fungal
The fog, we don't know what in the fog tbh
One bit
A fungi also doesnt make you grow a maw for a face.
look at the splash screen in steam, dude on the right imo just looks like it's got black, fungal growths all over its body and face
It's like... yea there is fog but...
fog and we all have gas masks on
Yea gas masks
It's definitely viral or bacterial. I'll bet hella money on it.
That may be a clue about spores
The disease is airborne
Wait every prisoner is equipped with a gas mask!
Might be a fungus and then something more, but I'm still p sure that's the most likely scenario
Yep yep
A fungus would make sense now
kind of yeah.
And they are like translucid
Fungus not so much
like I said, do look at some close-ups and renderings
those black spots/growths to me look a lot like fungi
Airborne virus. Fungus would add to the organism. Virus would manipulate and contort.
they have literally no signs of fungal infection, at all
a fungus doesnt need to turn you into a monster either, thats not how parasitic fungi operate
Yea and about the fog, when we are in it it's not just fog, there is like a billion of little particles, feels like spores imo
how about both/neither, but something similar? 🤔
Think about it. Infection levels is one of the vitals that the game measures.
space fungus
When you clear a level.
A fungus would want people to stay alive, but as you can tell by the various corpses left around the complex, the sleepers kill instead of passing the fungus on.
whatever it is, it most likely either got brought down or dug up by the meteor
It's absolutely not from genetic engineering. It's an infection.
the corpses also would be sprawling with them, since a fungus wouldnt care if you die
And it's gotta be viral.
Yea, you're right Ravenna tho...
Viral or bacterial. I'm calling it.

My main idea is human clinical trials with a foreign genome of an ancient organism. Except then they failed to control the experiments which allowed the virus to spread throughout the complex from the bottom up
Via a viral load
i really hope not due to how overdone the whole evil experiments trope is
I bet it's not evil experiment.
Neither do I, kind of
accidental exposure and study maybe, but spoopy corporation stuff would just..take the charm away
But it doesnf have to be inherently evil in nature
I bet it's just containment. Discovered something they shouldn't have while exploring.
I personally believe in the "virus was in the asteroide" theory. Foreign meteors and such have contained matterials and bacteria that we would generally not meet on Earth, and if it had the time to flourish here, who knows what would it cause
also, I read about a detail somewhere, someone mentioned the holes we drop into don't seem to be dug from the top down, but from the bottom up
Like they were trying to achieve a desired trait like longer life or stronger bodies
@shut mountain i agree
so possibly wherever they originally came from, something tried to make its way to the surface
Unicellular organisms like viruses would survive being on an asteroid. Wouldn't they?
Its nothing to do we a science gone wrong
Well
So that facility is Santonian, by there is items from Cornel and CNTRL intdustries.
the problem with that Rav, is that a virus would need a host to make the journey, and viruses tend to stick only to specific things since they feed on only certain types of bacteria. it could however make a jump to nearby living stuff
But if it's frozen, maybe.
Viruses are not defined as alive and can survive in unsuitable enviroments for an extremely long time
What if the host is Christmas spirit
Viruses can survive anywhere basically, there were records of bacteria and such being found on asteroids/between the rock that survived the impact
diseases crossing species boundaries isnt a novel aspect, in fact thats how HiV got to us
or just get bitten by one
Got bitten by an asteroid.
yeah but where's the fun in that
chimps are hyper agressive
Turned into a hotdog face man
that they are
"got bitten by an asteroid" - This is the best sentence i have heard tpday
I do agree that virus or something dropping in on that asteroid is likely, but purely visually speaking, I still think that infection looks most like some sort of fungus
someone working with meteor bits > forgot what hygiene is > bacteria carrying virus enters the poor sod > viruses decided "hey, this food is better"
could be like that
Get The Fungus Off
maybe it's some space fungi-virus 🤔
@lilac island i agree, it’s symptoms look fungal.
It only looks fungus like on shooters mostly though. The Strikers and such do not look fungi infected at all
a virus surviving on some fungus lol
considering you find god damn flasks and thermoses near corrosive chemicals
yeh, maybe kind of
OSHA nightmare
I have yet to see a fungus which splits heads casually into half and grows teeth from the bone and meat
hmm
That part has to be some radioactive virus stuff.
Hey there's radioactive stuff in some of the maps.
See There is Beams, but there's also other bone or spike things
and then grows this
Maybe it warped one of the virus specimen
to be fair, sleeper tongues look exacly like bloodworms
they might as well be infected with space worms
YES @shut mountain
Might be, yeah
that would explain why its possible that the strikers are alive without a brain
Im so glad someone else knows what those are
The exact mutations could stem from both the infection as well as other factors
like radiation
I really hope it's space worms.
or space AIDS
their brain is not in the head anymore, its in the tongue which is in the stomach area more than likely
Feels like a zombie virus from Resident Evil imo
rads wouldnt make your cells take any coherent shape
I want to kill the space worms and learn Sword Logic
Could affect/change how the mutation plays out as opposed to if only one factor had been present
Tape worms cranked to 11
Mhmm yea Ravenna... like some kind of... Frog?...
Progenitor Virus from RE wasnt compatible with pretty much most humans living, it became what made RE series only after decades of tampering
Radiocorrosive space zombie worm with a fungal infection
Instead of stealing food from what you eat they just become you and est your food for you
I wanna know about the fuckers in d1
Dude, now I cannot not see the sleepers as giant monsters frogs thanks Dvaix lmao
You know what I'm talking about
Viral parasitic tape worms.
or the transparent life of the twillight zone in the oceans
Those are invisible strikers from that i have seen
xD Sorry Ravenna ^^'...
tthey attack the same, have the same build...etc.
strikers
Maybe they're just on strike?
strikers but invisible
Not getting paid enough to be visible
if there was an invisible shooter itd be..a tad too cheap
you can only see them in the light, and scanner picks them up
however
their tendrils are visible when they attack
They also give different sounds compared to the other strikers though, it makes me believe that whatever is causing the sleepers to exist has incredibly fast abilliy to mutate and adapt to the environment
I hope there's a cool explanation to the shadows
“Virus”
the "shadows" only come out in the dark on that map
Like hey this is what happens when there is a reactor
Making them top notch "predators"
their tongues are kinda like that, except glowing
That's what I'm hoping for
excuse this terrible image, couldn't find any other version
but this is exactly what I mean by fungal-looking growths
When a virus is assembled in a cell it is easiely mutated because the assembly is not regulated
tbh it looks like a egg sack to me
they look like young/medium shroom caps to me, tbh
some even look like they have a bit of a stem
the image doesnt show that the pods are rough in texture
Those bulbs look like the ammo
Yep
Of shooters
huh, yeah.
like that
you're right
Maybe its for movement detection due to them not having eyes anymore
Fungal pods getting shot at you
They need to do that next December
Like that animal, forgot the name, but it have a blood pooch under his eye, and when he wants he can just force it popping out in the face of the predator
Christmas shooters.
I feel shrooms would also fit bc of the bioluminescence thing
that lizard right Dvaix
||Bullrush strikers|| actually have functioning eyes
unlike shooters empty eye sockets
Bullrush?
or normal strikers closed eyes
But do they use them?
What does that term mean
But.. there is still something I can't make right rn...
i put a spoiler for a reason for gods sake
Yeah but idk what it means x)
I heard one or two actually do have eyes but they don't open them
I think the eyes are "turned off". Remember, they dont really have a space for brain activity anymore, they only react to light and sound, but vision not so much.
How are their "bullet" track you like homing missile... is that lore based or... just gameplay...?
also heres a nice picture
either their eyes degenerate over time or something else
They could be analogous structures of the eyes “no more function” that the virus changed
aaah yee
yeah no, I still feel they look the most like kinda gelatinous fungal pods
sprouting from all over the head, likely even being shot at the prisoners
^
can you like
^
bloody mark it as spoiler
||big spikey strikers who hit like trucks||
Oh you could've just said spikey Naruto
lol
not you rav, youre good
about that
Bro we just talked about the shadow ones. Nobody said a thing about tagging them spoiler
Oooo i noticed that too XD
Dude they are so fast. The rush at the warden door is hella terrifying
zoom
Oh yeah, gtfo-lore generally is gonna be really spoilers heavy, so anyone using this channel should be aware of that 
^ agreed
^^^
^^
though I've seen most people spoiler D1 content regardless
which I can appreciate
It's still a very new game
Would it be better if all spoilers were only to be talked here or something?
people spoil pretty much in every channel now, despite me trying my best to tag everything
*because i can tell you i was spoiled myself when i tried to avoid it
*
same tbh lmao
I wouldn't go peeking around the lore channel until I beat the game or didn't care about seeing spoilers
because you know, its polite to think about others
still haven't done D1
I thought the same mista
but >lore
My enthusiasm got the better of me
his enthusiasm, gone
It's okay I have only died in D1. Haven't survived it yet
Actually. Funny story about that level
I've still gotta do B2 and C2 first
I only managed to do it yesterday, but man, my fva map is still C2
I just def wanted to know others thoughts on what the origin of this story is. Regardless of a few minor spoilers, since we trully dont know much about it
Look how much it is glowing from the inside, I'm sure there is like an explanation to this...
Yeah. What also intrigues is how veiny they are
tfw just need to do B1 so i can continue my crusade of getting pictures
Like damn those veines are huge
Yep feels like some kind of insect
Those veines are too big for general "human" anatomy
Something makes those veines pop up like this for sure
bioluminescence isnt an insect exclusive trait
@coral pilot yeah that is weird. Maybe the brain was relocated towards the center of the body for protection. Hints why if you dont charge a shot to the head they keep kicking
They seems like.. predator ?
I'd never seen the shadows before, only heard about them. Well anyways, we split reactor room into defense and scan teams. Well I was scanning willy nilly trying to get shit done and turned around to see an ominous silhouette with two eyes. I didn't sleep that night. We had all died very quickly.
So... why would a predator emit light if only to lure prey ?...
And the lighting up is nerves firing from the new brain outward
echo-location
Feels like this fish from really deep ocean
predators arent the only things that use light
Echo location doesn't need light I think
Thats sound
Photon radar?
they crackle when they are listening, as if they were trying to find movement for the sound to bounce back from
veins are huge but they're also both blackened and illuminated from the inside
might be blackish because blood flow stopped
Yeah man. They glow. If the light that's bouncing back comes back at different angles, something is moving.
The big veins are most likely arteries
and the luminescence has gotta be a part of the infection
Or has moved
some fungi emit light
I'm pretty sure those are predator... tbh
Those arteries are still way too big for a generally human sized monsters. They are probably "powering" something that requires those buff arteries
well massive jagged teeth kinda give it away
you think?
Like... those jaws and claws and homing missile
Like a new set of chompers
They dont bite thou, thats the strange thing. They "lick"
I bet striker dentists make hella money
if you get skinny and swole enough, some people have some pretty large veins over their bodies
you just don't see most unless you're very lean
and the end of their tongue does have teeth like things, like with the bloodworm
Maybe their teeth are not made for biting but more for eating
There's some big veins n arteries in humans
which also has the ability to snap with their mouth and retract it
Maybe they feed off hemoglobin in our blood
Like, their tongue catch ya and bring ya to them and then... eat ya...
hes gon getcha
Has anyone thought about the possibility of an organisms incubating inside a human and wearing it like a shell at full maturation
when you knock the head off of someone and they just fucking get up again
Maybe thats why they are pale, because the host body is low on hemoglobin after a long duration of infection
eh, kind of?
tfw it took me roughly five million years to get a proper picture, with most being either that with the tendril emerging or when its stuck in my neck
||https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-07-2014/oeTyd_.gif||
Bloodworm gif, please dont look if you are affraid of creatures like them!
like I said earlier, p sure that whatever the parasite is, it's merged irrversibly with its host
Nah they're transatlantic
twisting and deforming its body
They def took a lot from Alien in terms of atmosphere and the second mouth
well, alien's been a big inspiration for GTFO
What's up with the ceiling in levels like c2.
for FUCK sake
||That ceilling looks like a living organism itself ||
SEKUSU PISTORS
Bro I wanna know the lore about the ceiling
||yeah my theory is a membrane that caused the spikey boys, cuz that room is the first place they show up||
||It pulsates, has a very, very dense vein like texture to it, has goo dropping out of it constantly||
I haven't looked at it tbh
well then, spoiler tag it! it takes less than 10 seconds.
Hm. Maybe its like a cancerous growth. Cancer in itself is just cells that can do whatever they want freely without regulation
A virus can make that happen
^
sigh don't we have like a spoiler channel
still on boat with the fungus or fungus-and-then-some theory tbh
A virus can easily cause mutations yes
No we do not, but gtfo-lore is generally known to be spoiler heavy
||it doesnt react to light or any stimuli, but maybe due to the fact that its a set piece, its functions may be expanded down the line||
esp the more factors there are, the higher the likelihood of more severe and external mutations
Viruses pretty much hijack cells, insert their own stuff to warp said cell
so technically this is the spoiler channel
its in their nature, they cant exist otherwise
ye slanesh
thats what makes viruses unique
but they then kill the cell, spread to more cells and live like that
they do need a live host
hey rav can we just add (spoilers) to the channel name heh?
which they tend to eventually kill off
Viruses do exist outside of host cells. Not as extreme in numbers but it occurs
there were debates if viruses are living at all because of how strange they are
I was thinking that the complex is trying to become a massive entity.
Like the flood from Halo
Viruses are not classified as living because they do not have a metabolism among other facors
When found outside of host cells, viruses exist as a protein coat or capsid, sometimes enclosed within a membrane. The capsid encloses either DNA or RNA which codes for the virus elements. While in this form outside the cell, the virus is metabollically inert
Hence the ceiling. And the teeth at the drop off extraction point of every level.
ye
the teeth arent really organic
viruses are just proteins, designed to take over live cells but they're p much just a hull and some gene material
theyre not really teeth even
they're not alive per se, but they can't really survive without a host for long in most environments, depending on the virus ofc
the black jutting spikes arent teeth
Those are like iron structures honey
It might have even resorted to infecting some smaller earth-creatures, actually.
Right @last saffron but if it were to be “awoken” by coming into contact with a new host it can then proceed with reproduction
No teeths ^^'
I swear I saw some human sized teeth somewhere.
Like think of a fungus/virus/whatever infecting worms n shit
Through integration into the host dna
Then those carrying it over to people lol
don't mind me and what im gonna say 👀
I mind
banned
I mind

How dare you say that
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But yeh. Virus frozen on an asteroid is a viable idea.
It's not unrealistic
Some viruses can be pretty resilient
its plausible for a bacteria to carry them, just not on their own
Though I think bacteria tend to be more so
What if this is all just seasonal flu.
Could be there was some form of organic matter, maybe some plants or something, carrying them
Just a slightly worse case of it.
wouldnt survive atmospheric insertion, or even traveling through space
So far we have come to the conclusion that this is worm fungrus
Hello guys! The GTFO-lore channel is a place where you can discuss theories about the game. Due to the nature of the topics related to lore, this chatroom is spoiler heavy, please read and chat with this in mind.
Mushroom worms with a cold
literally 500 meters underground
the worms are trying to kill you
the worms are trying to kill you
ye worm fungus is good
everyone liked that
Erm no Mista... ^^'
tfw noone will read the pinned messages 
Worm/virus/fungus/flu
It's still better than nothing :D
We have come to the speculation not the conclusion ^^'
yeah, i wish you were like
forced to read them when opening the channel for the first time
A flungus worm
Hey a disclaimer is good.
from space
^
Yo yo hear me out for a second tho
Parasites, all the way.
what about space wizards
^-No more love.
If someone gets mad at spoilers they can't say they weren't made aware of it.
This is not SS13. :<
SS13 ?
B-but but
Demons
Yeah, wish Discord had that feature :( Alrighty, i gotta go now, you guys keep discussing all the funky stuff
Why not
Super Saiyan 13
^^^
Cya around Raven
it's like super saiyan but 12x more
Oh ok...
It was either super Saiyan 13 or Sinal Santasy 13
Sinal Santasy huh
Sinal Santasy lmao
I can dig
Anyway, let's get back to the lore eh..
plot is you've got a sinus infection
That's how a snake would pronounce final fantasy
lots of sand in your nose
Or maybe it's not a snake. Maybe it's a worm.
sinal sandtasy
From space that kills dinosaurs
But we should def keep the speculation of an alien virus from a meteor in mind 🙂
Worm wizards?
Yep
We do, yeh
Seems like the good road
I think it's space worms that are viral.
spaghetti dispensers
Some kind of alien pathogen/life form that got launched at earth from the frozen depths of space
Worst case scenario, they chock it up to toe fungus gone wild.
wort case scenario
theres a tiny problem..of the fact the worms arriving on a mateor, of they somehow managed to live through both impact, the resulting blast and atmospheric insertion
would have nothing to eat
Yeah they ate the meteor to survive.
@last saffron agreed
Ezpz explanation
there are space debri that makes it through
Frozen life forms can survive without food for long
and space is really, really cold
Like tardigrades
especially something simpler and more resilient like, yeah
or they could harden up their bodies like koro sensei when he goes mock 20
like those little uh whadare they called
I've got it.
Water bears
tardigrades can live in space for about 10 days
or wait, thats how long they were exposed for
water bears. next thing you know land squid
they died shortly after their return to earth
rip
they do survive crazy amounts of radiation though
and iirc even complete dehydration
Space worms froze while in space. Thawed out or died when the meteor hit earth. Scientists wanted to study how the worms survived freezing. Hence the HSUs. They tried implementing worm dna in the people and freezing them. So not only do they look wormy but they look soggy and hallow because they've been frozen. This is the best explanation I can possibly think of.
HSU doesnt really use cold?
If the enter their hibernation stage completely they can survive a lot
guys guys its simple defy physics and jump off a lake
they're certainly rather resilient, which makes it not unrealistic to think there'd be some other organisms just as, if not more resilient, able to survive spaaaace
Hydrostasis. Frozen in ice?
^
Ice is water
Jumping in and letting you know it's not alien
Cryo is ice is water
So no alien pathogens
We don't know how advanced hydrostasis tech is though
Obvi not good enough.
Could be some special compound in the water to keep vitals up and aging to a minimum
We have found fossils with dinosaur tissue still intact. And if this is something alien they can make up any number of reasons it lasted as long as it did. It doesn't have to conform to known fauna on earth.
Cryostasis and hydrostasis imply very different things
Not quite cryostasis but also not just a guy in some water lmao
That would be sustained living. Not stasis
we have cryostasis today
Yes ice and water are the same chemically but physically they are not
except theyre rapidly going bankrupt
lol
and its only for corpses
^
so slightly space-age tech is possible
Telomeres and telomerase are my best thoughts on longevity in humans. Astride other factors
tfw humanity will never leave this bloody rock, ever
^^^^^mood
Bro we did in the 60s or something
The great filter theory
rip Imperium Dreams
@pearl juniper humans have no telomerase activity and the cells don't utilise it well as is
That feeling doesn't bother me
i meant as settlers
inb4 only rich people ever will
space gets populated by only the most crooked businessmen from earth
Nah we'll find a way if we don't extinguish ourselves
btw whats the deal with the intro read
well, we are in the middle of that with our lovely climate
Sure, it needs to be affordable and with how the economy is designed, no go
Dude we've been in the middle of it since we discovered fire
@midnight spoke right, but what if we could turn those genes back on to produce telomerase that repairs telomeres
It's like saying I'm constantly dying and the timer resets when I breath
re: intro read
p sure that's randomized. your prisoner gets his vitals checked, injected with the cortex interface and sent into the rundown
@pearl juniper we don't have genes that encode those enzymes, we don't have telomerase in our system or it's be inactive waiting to be activated
yeah but its consistent
Cell Degradation on the lobby screen. hmmm.
^I think that's due to the infection
most if not all prisoners are infected, some slightly others more
@wooden latch fun fact, you are dying when you breathe, oxidation is fun
obvs that's gonna result in cell degeneration/damage
literally burning on the inside every single time I take a breath
man that shit deep
Well it makes dying in minutes turn into decades.
spreads out the pain, too
so it's probably a bit less uncomfortable to pass away than it'd be to get your gut punched out
Hang on. Is the prisoner ever in an hsu
mine always says mental state unknown
yes
@midnight spoke The genes of telomerase subunits, which include TERT, TERC, DKC1 and TEP1, are located on different chromosomes in the the human genome.
you get pulled from HSUs at the start of every mission
^
Every prisoner's in one at first
Well, not necessarily, it's just how we've developed as organisms, the fact we breathe it doesn't mean it increases longevity
Damn dude they really just wake you up and say hey you get to go to hell and yeet you down a hole in a matter of minutes?
It just means it increases the likelyhood of not acutely suffocating to death
yeah lol
I thought the same
Warden is a total butthead.
but going by the noises they make when they get dropped, doesn't sound like they're too happy about it lol
That panicked gasping
P neat detail tbh
when we first loaded it up all you hear is a scream and i was like bitch we bout a box
@midnight spoke I’m not saying that JUST doing stuff telomeres and telomerase would increase longevity but just a food for thought
Probably still getting used to breathing from being in stasis
@pearl juniper and a person needs more than one of those subunits to produce it, does everyone have all subunits or is it a genetic pool?
id be upset too if someone ripped me back into existence
or just startled to shit about literally getting dropped down a several hundred meters deep hole of unknown danger against your will
yeah lol
I didn't ask to be born again!
I wouldn't be too happy about that happening to me either
Ripped back into existence. I like that term.
im like let me stay in homeostasis
@pearl juniper of course it increases longevity, it increases the amount cells can reproduce, as can a slow cellular cycle. They're all probable options in this scenario
senku
Pikachu
@midnight spoke I do not know for certain but I would believe so. If the genetic subunits are small it enough it can increase the likelyhood of not being interfered with during crossing over during meiosis.
yee
I'd prefer homo stasis over getting chucked down some random ass hole with three other dudes I've never met
Yes
Along with random mutations affecting other genetic material, not hitting the telomerase based genetic coding
when you too poor to afford housing so you let yourself be frozen instead
hobo stasis
lmao
i prefer the random asshole then random ass hole
^^
@pearl juniper unlikely, there's too much genetic variation, there would be plenty of combinations of the subunits but a functioning collection would have to be from those certain genetic pools with a high abundance of the genes
And not have genes override them
I just realize there are people who buy the game expecting it to be like C1 and quitting before they ever get to C1
Sad
Random mutations are also interesting, it could be not hitting the coding but most random mutations don't do much to actually alter the outcome of the process
they do still have some patterns, though
unless they're about to add a lot more variety
A frameshift mutation does alter it though
@midnight spoke so different combinations of the genes could code for different telomerase based proteins, but the ones that are the most effective compete with the genes that are least effective
but there's still gonna be some consistency with individual types of mutations
just remembered what telomerase was lol
the game is random entities but the terrain generation is the same
An evolutionary fitness landscape for the genetic variations of the telomerase
wasn't that the T in CGAT
@lilac island you an alter a genetic sequence quite a bit and still end up with the same enzyme or actions at the end, it largely depends on the type of mutation
Cytosine, Guanine, Adenine, and Thymine
If its a silent mutation it can have no impact of the end result. It would still make the same protein
@pearl juniper the subunits you described are components to make telomerase, just have a few pairs of subunits make a different version of telomerase is wack, it's not like DNA polymerase 1 and 3 where there's different encodings for it
As far as I know there's only one form of telomerase
@midnight spoke you’re right, apologies. I’m still learning a lot about molecular biology and theres a lot I still don’t know.
@midnight spoke Rn i’m working toward a degree in molecular biology but im still in the baby steps phase since I just finished my first semester towards my associates degree. Long ways to go for a masters in molecular biology XD
Much appreciated man
oh right, thymine not telomerase
Very true
Right, thymine is a nucleic acid
ATCG are the “rungs of the ladder” on the double helix
Thymine gets replaced my uracil in RNA, which then codes for the protein
The Central Dogma
imb4 the infection alters the host using a leaky gene method
I'd actually be mad
And telemores are protective caps at the end of centromeres, it gets used during cell replication due to a overhang in the genes and your cells use the telomere to cover the gap
The only massive exception to this in humans, is cancer
Cancer is an immortal cell which just keeps replicating
Kinda like the big guys actually
Inb4 cancer
😂
^
Also, telomeres are also why clones are a bad choice
ehhh, cancer is out of the question. Tumors can grow teeth/hair/nails in them, but they cant make a coherent structure. Cancer certainly cant make your face into a massive mouth
But what about the power of friendship
That was more of a bad joke on my part
I bet that's strong enough
friendship is heresy
Strikers just wanna kiss you
when you wake up from cryo stasis and the last thing you remember is the Strogg machine out of Quake stabbing you with a needle before putting you on ice, and now your plunging hundreds of feet into what looks like a bottomless pit
That's every Monday for me
The last thing I remember before waking up in a HSU, is Bishop's arse of a face
I do not trust that guy
wonder what would happen if there was amnesia and the last thing one of the chars remembers is that they left the stove on...
that would be one hell of a change of scenery
or extremely thirsty, he was practically freeze dried
Unfortunately it's secretive
ouch
Also, here's an idea for y'all
Assuming at least some of the people in HSU's have the cortex interface and that some of them (at least the one's above ground) are connected to a network for monitoring. They could incidentally overlap or send neural images, feelings memories etc to each other incidentally. Explains a few things Dauda said in the trailer
Buuuut
Probably wrong
anyone afraid of heights i wonder? probably would be sent down with some kind of inhibitor but terrified nonetheless
It would be neat if the people were just controlled remotely to remove any potential for ruining performance due to fear
Personally I wouldn't risk an inhibitor as it could screw with performance
Characters seem too afraid for that
well im pretty sure someone i played with name steve got hyped from that ride down. immediately started going berserk with his maul
Wait until you reach D
Oh I did
I was a good 20m behind my team when we ran for extract and boi, nerves
Lucky
pls dont let there be a room you drop into just full of big sleepers
I didn't even make it to extract
F
During the evac or the waves?
living in a house of ghosts, with roommates from the afterlife
F
I hear the ideal tactic is two people work scanners
@last saffron that's fine with me if they're quiet
I thought it was redundant at first
We used one and 3 turrets
Also you need to pick the right spot to choke them
Three made c2 door a cake walk
my group has started to do our runs without a scanner
it’s pretty doable, the only time when we really miss it is fog
we kind of, skidaddled away from lore didnt we
@vagrant lynx read new pin
Ok
i don't know if anyone thinks this is a lore chat anymore
id say that discussion fits #gtfo-chat better
well i guess they changed it. sorry.
Honestly this is the only spoiler channel in the server. Where else am I gonna talk about d1
guess you're right about that
well all i meant was || D1 and C2 are special, many people want to enjoy the maps without any knowledge||
Probs the closest thing to a spoilers channel
You can talk anywhere about D1 as long as you mark it for spoilers using || on each end - this expedition has been discussed in other channels plenty of times no problem ^-^
^
@honest monolith That is kinda conflicting with the new pinned message in this channel.
Yeah that's problematic
That is simply a warning to imply that lore in itself will contain spoilers - however if you wish to talk outside of here, you need to use the spoiler tag
Seems so yes 🙂
It's a channel for lore, not spoilers.
Squares and rectangles
But ain't Lore inherently spoilers?
Can you just make my job easy, and move?
Well, I'm asking because I wanna make sure that I'm following the rules proper.
It is, that's why the lore is marked as potential spoiler - however if its not lore related, it needs to be somewhere else
such as #gtfo-chat
Well it looks like the conversation derailed from the drop part of the game. Let's just get back to that topic.
I think it's a really neat part of the game. Frankly I'm sick of parachuting into a map. Although I know that's a really ideal way of getting a soldier on the field.
I like it, too
Well, it also works as a hidden loading screen
Did you notice that it's longer depending on how deep the map is that you're playing on
Would make sense
P sure B levels are around 500m depth, A a bit above that and dunno how far down the others are
yeah the top levels are just like the front door
Here's what I don't get
Also, dunno if you can ever see much of it, but to me it sounds like being dropped in some sort of tiny chopper-like pod, like they're actually being flown down instead of being let down on like, a cable or something
Why do the deeper level have such massive rooms. I thought the deeper you go, the more compact everything should be designed
Or am I wrong about that
could just be the wind coming up from some kind of ventilation
Might be the rooms weren't all dug by human hand.
Oh there's no way it wasn't machined
As I said, I saw someone point out that the hole we drop into doesn't look like it was dug from above, but from below
How would you dig it out from below?
Could be that whatever was down there had some time to fester and dig up shit, but I'm really grasping at straws there lol
that could just mean some of the sleepers or whatnot tried to escape
or they started at the bottom lvl
just found it to be kind of a noteworthy detail
Where would the dirt go? Through a tunnel and out the surface somewhere else?
and this is how they went upwards
since the holes look like they taper up instead of downwards
Yeah but then they would be massive
some of it is metal
The sleepers
Compacted and pushed under them to reach up higher? i dunno
my best guess here would be that the mining company might have met the burrow halfway down
I'm thinking of conservation of mass. That mass went somewhere
:P
What
Well
Weeeell

You could have it react to something else and lose some energy
i mean if the mass was eaten it would explain why there is big ones
ThAt Is nOt EqUivAlENt ExChAnge
but I dunno what could do that at this scale in this kind of way
that's not the law of equivalent exchange!
There would be.... Way more big guys and they would me much bigger if they ate their way up
if the Mas was eaten, it would explain where all the crack shit theories went :^)
I joke
There's no way that the mining company didn't drill that big hole or it was already there
What about a collapse
I'm saying they might not have been entirely responsible for all of the channel's digging work
hm, maybe
There was a natural pocket underneath
caverns like I said
could be
Could be where it was contained, could be a part of the meteor got dispersed into the underground, far enough for it to be contained there
¯_(ツ)_/¯
On board with the natural caverns at first theory, though
Where is the lore btw. How do people know that something on the asteroids killed the dinos
Are there cards? Loading screen text?
Chixculub is an actual place in the gulf of mexico
the trailer had coordinates which pointed at it
plus there was an expedition irl too, which reached around 1.3km and the complex is somewhat close to that in depth
actually dunno about that
but the coordinates are p much spot on with the crater
and a massive layer of sediment
So it's gonna be that
and yes they mined underwater
The Chicxulub impactor had an estimated diameter of 11–81 kilometres (6.8–50.3 mi), and delivered an estimated energy of 21–921 billion Hiroshima A-bombs
The impact created a hole 100 kilometres (62 mi) wide and 30 kilometres (19 mi) deep, leaving a crater mainly under the sea and covered by 600 metres (2,000 ft) of sediment by the 21st century.
The specific composition of the area it struck was ideal for the blackout conditions caused afterward, according to some scientists.
@midnight jolt i think that it is a parasite or fungus and the big one are just a lot in one person
like a colony
The body composure wouldn't be able to tank it, growing a person that much is not that easy, like it's very long an meticulous
Like, that guy is litterally 3 meters high
It would require a lot of ressource for the body to grow that much
A lot of calcium too
How about the spiky bois? I don't remember seeing the egg/tics inside one?
I could be wrong though
Wdym ?
well i am pretty sure that the brain is turned off so all the thing that were tell you no are now telling you yes
also would tell us why some get so strong
there is a part of the brain that stop us from hurting our muscles to much but this thing could have turned it off
@coral pilot I was ust thinking about weebking69s theory about parasites and fungus, and I started to think that there isn't those eggs or fungus or anything inside the armored ones at C2
Give the creatures a ravenous appetite, even for normally unusable resources, the parasites take it and use it to revamp the human host
well those could be the fighters
Oh ok ^^
and the shoots can be the ones that spread it
they shoot the black things at us so i mean it makes a lot of since
||Also what is the huge organic mass inside the ceiling of the C2 and how is that connected to the monsters?||
mabey a hive mind type thing
||common courtesy to hide spoilers like that 😉||
there could be a queen
@naive kindle I'm sorry about that
Is ok, it's been said multiple times in discord already and this is the lore channel but you never know who will pop in here, after I beat A1 I popped in to ask a few lore questions and that would prevent any spoilers like that
Half the fun about the lore at this point is that it's a lot of speculation
A bit off topic for the lore
But has anyone else heard that they will reset the rundown after 2% of the community clears D1?
how hard is it to get D1
||it wouldnt be much if a surprise if we find out that the sludge/biomass altered the mutation of the normal bois to make them spiky though, they have qualities if shooters and strikers and have a lot more speed, also wouldnt be a huge shock to find out that the spikes cause extra infection "damage"||
@hollow parcel I've heard rumours like that. If you check the Warden feed, you can see that the current Rundown was started after the survival rate was at 2.5% wich was "on adequate levels" to start the current rundown
C2 is rough and you gotta clear it to get to D1, clearing D1 is even harder than C2 🤔
Where can the warden feed be found?
On the top of the discord page, not sure if I can link it here?
yep
DO YOU guys think there will be like a pill tool
I'm sure it will be a stat to monitor, itd be interesting to see what that do with it, in Resident Evil: Outbreak there was an infection gauge that, once filled to 100%, would make you keel over and turn into a zombie, which made it possible to attack your still living team members anywhere you wanted
@hollow parcel although I think that the devs can't keep releasing new rundowns like that for long. At some point there won't be players who keep surviving the rundown many times while waiting for others to keep going at it.
I agree.
An interesting metric for rundowns to be reset at, but ultimately people will establish a meta and tried and true playstyles
And even people who are sub par will be able to limp through it
The game is already able to be clowned through to a certain extent with the proper tools and accurate shooting, cant say that for C2 or D1 as I havent cleared them still but A1 and the B expeditions arent too stressful I think
Yeah, A1 and B feel stupid easy now that I have reached C1
D1 is easyish with right tactics too
agh
stupid typo
"Yeah, A1 and B feel stupid easy now that I have reached D1
C1 is easyish with right tactics too"
D1 better be hell lol, going from B to C wasnt too bad of a difficulty jump
that's what I meant to say
C1 was great imo, hope we get a harder version of it in the next rundown
Yep. ||All that ammo and medipacks was overwhelming||
||moving the ammo and tool refills was the savior there, that chokepoint through the door after they go up the stairs was where I got my team to post up after seeing their pathing the first time, letting them gain footing and falling back isnt the best but holding one position and taking turns with turrets was 10/10||
||That is the exact same tactics we used, and we too had to fall back once, only to let the second shotgun turrets to rip them into pieces||. It was amazing
Big brain 😉 would love a similar expedition with ||spikybois|| to add a little bit of difficulty ||whatever made them spiky and fast needs to spread out eventually if it's a biomass anyway right?||
That kind of mission would be great! ||Now the about the lore: it would be cool if the story proceeded with the biomass thing spreading towards the surface, but I'm not sure if it will work that way. After all the rundowns start from the top and go down along the difficulty level, so we will never have hard enemies at the start.||
||unless of course we get a rundown with a heavy biomass influence, to the effect we have to deal with the advanced mutations even at the B levels, which at this point in the games life its not likely but the possibility of it happening in the future should not be ruled out||
This is the fun part of speculation 😂
