hmmmm
#gtfo-lore
main island
pseudo prawn
yeah
fallen pendant
Is very likely connected to the goverment
pseudo prawn
which one tho
main island
Thing is we are in the future
soft prism
the thing is, we don't even know if there is a government
main island
Honestly, anything is a possibility
soft prism
for all we know everything could be controlled by corporations, or society might have collapsed
since the characters don't even speak much at all
fallen pendant
Its just bothering me
pseudo prawn
thats the problem, unless SOMEONE (winking at you Devs), point us in the right direction or at least say if in this whole discussion part of the lore was actually said!
fallen pendant
On how they get so much prisoners
Or
Do they?
Because It's be kinda imposible to know
What to do instantly
When you get down there
soft prism
it's weird, actually
fallen pendant
Would panic etc etc
soft prism
it seems to be there's just four of them, and even in descriptions of the game it says they're forced down the complex every day to carry out different tasks
fallen pendant
Wait hold up
soft prism
but there are corpses in the complex that are mid-transformation
which seems to imply we're not the first
fallen pendant
In the GTFO story presentaions?
idk erngirhs
Theres dead bodys
Do they seem old???
soft prism
they seem to be mid-transformation
their bodies are a bit bloated around the torso
and they still have parts of clothing on
fallen pendant
One thing we can say that it's most likely prisoners
soft prism
also, my grammar is mid-transformation too apparently
pseudo prawn
oof
fallen pendant
Thanks
soft prism
though the santonian marks on the characters' clothing point to something
it's weird, because every character has their own style of clothing
so i don't think those could be just standardized prisoner uniforms
pseudo prawn
or, its area 51
soft prism
and judging by how the santonian website was apparently made by bishop, the characters must have some sort of a connection
fallen pendant
Area 51 is on america
soft prism
it is a mystery
pseudo prawn
bishop is one of the characters
fallen pendant
One thing
It's past 2020
Dead bodys
4 charaters and said on game des
everyday something something something
What if they have a res thingy
soft prism
yeah, either we're a separate group, or we're canonically the current iteration of prisoners
fallen pendant
IS it really a human body???
soft prism
and i don't think character deaths would be canonical
yeah, and the infected are all pretty much humans
you can even make out faces on split mouths of strikers and underneath the ulcers of shooters
fallen pendant
I mean the charaters we're playing
soft prism
they seem human but, again, they seem to be infected
hence why they're forced into hydrostasis after every mission
though
another curious detail i've noticed in the trailer
soft prism
hydrostasis units are those cells you get out of in the beginning of the mission
also
fallen pendant
also said in trailer
soft prism
fallen pendant
Diff people everytime
fallen pendant
But i regognizez idk english
soft prism
"get whatever the warden want and get home"
fallen pendant
Yeah
soft prism
which seems to imply the warden isn't a singular entity
fallen pendant
I know
soft prism
and they have a "home"
fallen pendant
Hold up
Im so dumb i didnt notice that
It was on plainsight lol
They have a home
But it also says theres diffrent people everytime
soft prism
no, it was confirmed that Dauda (the guy in the trailer) is talking about his dreams
fallen pendant
Lmao in 0:47 they mostly died
soft prism
since someone had that conversation pop up during a game
fallen pendant
hmmmm
fallen pendant
So dauda?
soft prism
seems like so far the only thing we can do is wait for more content
soft prism
yeah
fallen pendant
I just noticed
fallen pendant
Dauda is most likely
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A very important charater
Since
He recognized them
So the monsters have emotion
soft prism
apparently in our dreams we do not invent new faces, our mind pulls up faces we've seen over our life, ones we may not even recognize anymore
he might be talking about some past event he has forgotten, but can only remember in his dreams
soft prism
not really, i'm talking in general about his dreams speech
soft prism
for all we know this might be a suppressed memory of him having a part in the complex's collapse
fallen pendant
Dauda is a former warden
soft prism
huh
fallen pendant
Just a thoery
soft prism
yeah, that could tie in. different people every time, but he recognizes them somehow.
would also tie in with the theory that all characters have a connection with the complex
like bishop being affiliated with santonian
fallen pendant
'It's not a nightmare it's just part of me"
soft prism
dude
fallen pendant
AHhh
fallen pendant
Ok
Since now iknow you're not gonna bully me
I'll will now qoute that part
"i dont fight it, i just live around it"
One thing im 99% sure
Is that hes So important to the story
Hes
soft prism
that's an interesting idea to explore
fallen pendant
One thing i can say also
soft prism
i remember people also talking about how the warden sends us specifically down because we have connections
and that there are dna scans in the doors
ones that the warden can't access
soft prism
yeah, i didn't even pay attention to the dreams speech first
not in that light, at least
fallen pendant
First time i checked the GTFO trailer
I mean
Something something
I thought it was just normal
Like a normal speech
Dna scans
hmmm
Not sure but the monster sure do hate people
And the monsters like they feel pain alot not sure
soft prism
people in this channel theorized this could be some sort of parasite/fungus infection that came with the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs
since it was confirmed that the complex lies in that crater
soft prism
Chicxulub crater it's called
yeah, the devs themselves said they have everything in the lore nailed down
fallen pendant
Chicxulub? wait where do you get all of this informations lol
soft prism
even how the monsters work
in the channel pins
there's a lore presentation document
fallen pendant
waait
i know
Wait whrere lo
i mean i know where it is
But the meteorite isnt the cause?
fallen pendant
Idk how to screenshot on mac
soft prism
and some people theorize that this infection came from the meteorite
soft prism
they simply dug up the infection
but the question is what were they looking for
because the complex is pretty heckin' deep
i mean
fallen pendant
So they looking for the chicxulub thingy
soft prism
yeah, they probably were digging up the asteroid
soft prism
it seems to be that way, for now it's the only logical explanation to where this infection came from
fallen pendant
And the warden made the complex rite
soft prism
and the monsters are called sleepers because they seem to be entering some form of natural stasis when they're not hunting, hence why they survived for so long
velvet canopy
hold up why the fuk are we prisoners tho?
fallen pendant
Bench
soft prism
no idea, but we have some connection with the complex
fallen pendant
Yea
soft prism
the complex was at least funded by Santonian
fallen pendant
Oooh
soft prism
and we don't know what or who the warden is
fallen pendant
@velvet canopy one thing we know
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Is that they have home
soft prism
no one has any idea
soft prism
yeah, but it also seems that because of their trips down they get infected, as seen in the mission end stat screen, and that is the reason they get shoved into hydrostasis units
fallen pendant
To solve it
soft prism
to halt the infection
velvet canopy
when the game is fully released we should have a better explanation
fallen pendant
ha
last saffron
ill be writing a summary on Hosts and their Deviants in a bit
fallen pendant
Prob
soft prism
very nice @last saffron
fallen pendant
I mean looking in the game files is allowed right???
soft prism
you should make it a document, and ask the mods to pin it
last saffron
Datamining isnt allowed
velvet canopy
What are hosts and deviants?
fallen pendant
So we cant really look clues in the files?
last saffron
Aka Giants, Shades etc
soft prism
nope, no datamining
fallen pendant
ah
soft prism
devs want us to experience the game as we play it
last saffron
As for lore, Simon said its going to be extensive. there will be Audio and Text logs for us to find
fallen pendant
Oooh
velvet canopy
dont spoil
velvet canopy
im only on A1
fallen pendant
Fools
last saffron
ill put spoiler tags on some deviant forms for those who havent gone to C2 yet
soft prism
@last saffron what do you think of a theory we just talked about, how Dauda may be affiliated with the warden? in the original trailer one of the characters mentions "get whatever the warden want", which seems to imply that they're a group. and Dauda's dreams seem to be suppressed memories. different people every time, he recognizes them somehow, and they're angry at him.
i played the beta
oh, and your thoughts on HSUs being used to halt the main characters' infection?
fallen pendant
Get whatever the warden want
And if it's a single person
What would he should be saying?
soft prism
if it was a singular person/entity, he'd say "get whatever the warden wants"
fallen pendant
Ooooh
velvet canopy
what happens if u dm the warden?
fallen pendant
lmao
i'll try it
hope i dont get banned lol
Wait
Tbh i think there would be some specific word
But i'll try saying the letter e
nope nothing happend
Prob overthinking on this one
fallen pendant
imagine if that worked
that would be stupid lmao
Oh yeah
Staffs dont know also the lore
only the devs
Said by the admin or mod
Slaan ur taking a long time to type
@soft prism
One thing
They said in the GTFO story presentation right
"here is an entity called the Warden. Its identity remains unknown - it has no face or identification mark."
floral plaza
last saffron
Hosts, a summary:
Hosts as a whole are collective of mutated humans, Santonian Mining Industries personnel to be precise judging by the evidence, currently residing within the mining facility. As a whole, Hosts are split into 2 archetypes:
- Strikers - Exclusively male, they are more adapted for direct confrontation, sporting sharp carnivore teeth and a massive tendril within their bodies, used to lash at their victims with great force
- Shooters - Exclusively female, more skittish and frail than Strikers they assault their target from afar by means of growths on their heads. Currently its unknown what the projectiles are, but dormant theyre pitch black and glow a bright white when fired.
Hosts currently possess several Deviants in their midst:
- Giants - applied to both archetypes these massive monsters are slow but much stronger than their lesser cousins. Giant Strikers frequently emit loud roars. Both types are extremely resilient to firearms, being able to shrug point blank shotgun blasts off.
- ||Shades - a peculiar deviant of Strikers, these beings are completely invisible to naked eye unless exposed to light.||
- Scouts - a deviant of Shooters, these towering Hosts patrol the zones they reside in, oblivious to anything until they extend a mass of tendrils contained in their bodies. upon detecting prey, they emit a loud screech followed by a blinding flash of light which calls upon a "Horde"
- ||Spikers - A rare deviant from deep within complex, little is known outside of their enhanced speed and aggressiveness compared to most hosts. Spikers have only been encountered on C, alongside large biomasses.||
- "The Horde" - Potential Deviants due to their coloration, theyre compromised of both strikers and shooters, occasionally even having Giants in tow. identical to their normal counterparts outside of different skin color.
fallen pendant
Oh there we go
soft prism
@last saffron you should make it a google doc and ask the mods to pin it. that way it'll be easily available and could be edited on the fly
fallen pendant
i agree
soft prism
with images, and without being limited by discord's character limit
last saffron
makes sense, the problem is i dont have images of Deviants 2 and 4
since im currently on B
fallen pendant
cre77
I think they said "Get whatever the warden want" It's because they mostly think it's a group a people since you know it's most likely a group
soft prism
@last saffron you could take screenshots of 2 from the trailer, and 4 from a streamer's clip
just search in media
"porcupines"
soft prism
the streamer called them that in the discord
last saffron
only one clip of them and its standing in full darkness, id love a full face shot like one of these
soft prism
@last saffron so, what do you think of Dauda being affiliated with the Warden in the past?
and with prisoners being kept in HSUs because they're infected?
as the resident lore sponge
fallen pendant
wats a lore sponge
last saffron
Simon describes dauda as very secretive, so he might even be working for them still
last saffron
im a lore sponge since i spent a lot of time crawling around, taking pics, making observations etc
soft prism
Kerbe pointed out that his dreams may be of him being a warden
so those may as well be suppressed memories
fallen pendant
oooh
fallen pendant
If his working for warden
I mean
IF hes working for the warden
untill now
why would they supress his memories?
last saffron
i doubt Dauda is like, a member of warden, but could be part of its "outer circle" if that makes sense. working for it, but not being directly part of it
fallen pendant
Ok time to bring out a clichie one
soft prism
i think he was, really. Kerbe pointed out the things he says
"it is not a nightmare, it's just part of me, who i am"
"i don't fight it, i just live around it"
very specific
for talking about dreams
fallen pendant
A superpower was injected to dauda and then something something something and then retired to a warden
0.00001% of this happening ^
His dreams are very important
last saffron
the whole quote features "Then I wake up and I’m not sweating or screaming, I’m perfectly calm. I just open my eyes and I’m awake!" so the i dont fight it is referring to that
fallen pendant
Lol imagine if everything was a dream
soft prism
yes, but what i meant is that it's suppressed memories
fallen pendant
I would hate gtfo
soft prism
ones that he's regaining through his dreams
last saffron
About the main 4 being kept in HSUs due to infection, ive been having guesses there potentially former Santonian workers, Bishop at the very least
soft prism
i mean, different people every time that hate him seems very fitting to being one of the wardens
since it includes sending unwilling people down
last saffron
Hackett has Santonian emblem on his chest, Woods is referenced in Santonian site source code
soft prism
and judging by the corpses, the main four characters are just the "current generation"
i think it was bishop that was referenced
fallen pendant
ur saying it's an evolotion ?
soft prism
F. Bishop, if my memory doesn't deceive me
last saffron
i keep confusing the two
fallen pendant
evolution
soft prism
no, not evolution, just metaphorically
we're the latest prisoners to get sent in
and seemingly the most successful
last saffron
Woods is the Religious guy, strangely hes the only guy apart from other 3
description wise
Woods has found God, but not redemption. Redemption he believes he has to earn while trapped in The Complex. In his mind, it's Purgatory.
soft prism
huh
last saffron
he is the only prisoner to be described in such cryptic manner by simon
fallen pendant
Do they know each other?
soft prism
they seem to have gotten to know each other over missions
Bishop is a incredibly pragmatic character, who's main goal is to get the job done, and do it well enough for his high standards. Because of this, he finds it hard to work in a team and to trust it's members.
soft prism
from this, my guess is that they've never met each other before
and i don't think the monsters have emotion, really
fallen pendant
On the dreams dauda duded said "They hate me" something like that
And they suffer
soft prism
no, he's talking about the people he sees in his dreams
soft prism
i'm thinking he was part of the warden, one of the group that sent prisoners down
last saffron
the Hosts arent like, full on animals. they clearly know how to react to firearms, the very first they do when waking up is alerting others too
some of them point at you while screaming
soft prism
different people every time, because none return
they hate him, because he's the one sending them to their doom
pseudo prawn
what if the people are not dreams, but what happend to the body they are connecting to?
fallen pendant
Hold up
soft prism
so they're not a hivemind
last saffron
sometimes a host will point at you when alert
fallen pendant
Thats posible
last saffron
they have a degree of individuality id say
fallen pendant
they not really full dumb
last saffron
a hivemind would make every single room alert in an instant
soft prism
perhaps, that's just part of human mannerisms left over from the infection/parasite taking over?
last saffron
treat them like a giant pack
soft prism
then again, their movements are really alien
pseudo prawn
its not a hivemind, the whole complex would be after you, all levels if it were
last saffron
i need to get a few clear shots of the tendril inside the giant strikers
the mouth on it is different
i caught a few glimpses but it moves extremely fast
its comparable to a full leech
fallen pendant
Im confused about the last part of the duada said its just kinda confusing me
soft prism
well, dauda's mysterious
last saffron
think of it as him getting used to it
soft prism
he's either pointing to some acute awareness of his own
last saffron
as he said, it comes every night
soft prism
or either him getting used to it, yeah
soft prism
though, again, that's why i'm thinking these must be suppressed memories
every night, oddly specific dreams
fallen pendant
It became hackket
Yeah i agree
Also
How does he dreams
Where does it sleeps
Where is he right now??
soft prism
yeah, that's another mystery
they're kept in hydrostasis units
but what do they do outside of them? do they eat? are they fed via injections?
last saffron
Warden lets us keep whatever it doesnt need, so theres some place other than HSU
fallen pendant
Lets get thhis done and then go home
soft prism
that raises a whole other point
the characters seem to be infected
but there is no hint of a cure
so do they not know?
fallen pendant
Is it really a virus
pseudo prawn
a promise of a freedom, then after the objective they get memory wipe and go again, deeper
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Parasite
Fungus
I mean
Yes im dumb
I forgot theres infection levels
Totally forgot abotu that
last saffron
youre not dumb
for all we know its several things combined
infection isnt a term exclusive to viruses anyway
fallen pendant
parasite and fungus also?
Wait
If you get hit do you get infection rates higher
last saffron
Infection is the invasion of an organism's body tissues by disease-causing agents, their multiplication, and the reaction of host tissues to the infectious agents and the toxins they produce.
soft prism
dude
fallen pendant
Thanks
last saffron
Infections are caused by infectious agents (pathogens) including:
Viruses and related agents such as viroids and prions
Bacteria
Fungi, further subclassified into:
Ascomycota, including yeasts such as Candida, filamentous fungi such as Aspergillus, Pneumocystis species, and dermatophytes, a group of organisms causing infection of skin and other superficial structures in humans[3].
Basidiomycota, including the human-pathogenic genus Cryptococcus.[4]
Parasites, which are usually divided into[5]
unicellular organisms (e.g. malaria, Toxoplasma, Babesia)
macroparasites[6] (worms or helminths) including nematodes such as parasitic roundworms and pinworms, tapeworms (cestodes), and flukes (trematodes, such as schistosomiasis)
Arthropods such as ticks, mites, fleas, and lice, can also cause human disease, which conceptually are similar to infections, but invasion of a human or animal body by these macroparasites is usually termed infestation. ( Diseases caused by helminths, which are also macroparasites, are sometimes termed infestations as well, but are sometimes called infections.)
soft prism
@pseudo prawn that actually may be correct
that's why their sanity is monitored too
outside of health
soft prism
i think it's just
pseudo prawn
could be
soft prism
cinematics
soft prism
i doubt death is canonical
pseudo prawn
yeah thats the other thing, could be the cortex connection
last saffron
Since the story will be focused around our main 4
soft prism
i think the cortex thing is the warden seeing things through our eyes
fallen pendant
So basicly 0% death run
soft prism
not controlling
fallen pendant
I mean
last saffron
theyre not flesh puppets, otherwise theyd have no personality whatsoever
fallen pendant
0 deaths run
pseudo prawn
cortex has to do with the consciousness tho
last saffron
and i doubt warden would let someone with Woods description operate anything wherever it resides
soft prism
maybe we're getting it wrong?
pseudo prawn
yeah Im going with memory wipe
fallen pendant
Maybe
soft prism
the cortex injection isn't tied to prisoners
looking through prisoner eyes is simply part of the features of the system one's mind is being injected to
soft prism
i mean, kinda hard to formulate it
last saffron
think of it like Augmented Reality, warden needs some coherent way of pathing things, sending you transmissions
soft prism
but what i'm getting at is that ingame we're some sort of "system operator" that sends those people down
huh
last saffron
Warden knows where stuff is, just not precisely. it knows the admin is in A but it has no idea where specificially
Warden knows when a pathway opens, but it doesnt know whats within
so it relies on your data to map stuff out
fallen pendant
I thought of that also
pseudo prawn
heres the thing, in the end YOU see the reports, which are meant for warden. The team is presented to you as if you are observing them, until they go down. YOU pick their weapons, wasnt it said Warden provides some of the tools?
last saffron
i just treat the menus as Warden viewpoint
fallen pendant
I think warden has limited supplys
pseudo prawn
I think warden is us
fallen pendant
thats too deep
pseudo prawn
whats so special about Hackett?
fallen pendant
He hacks
pseudo prawn
theres only one Hackett tho, admiral Hackett, Alliance Navy
fallen pendant
pollux
pseudo prawn
thats the only one for me, sorry 😄
last saffron
i mean, during start up youre the one doing injection, selections
pseudo prawn
could be, if the game menu is supposed to be our view or part of the story
last saffron
so i just roll with it as you taking on a role of warden pre drop
then you shift to your prisoners view point
fallen pendant
Lmao i think it's only for gameplay purposes for the weapon thingys
pseudo prawn
yeah, to map the facility
last saffron
on this episode of Slaa cant type properly
pseudo prawn
I bet that chinese crocodile is also some hidden message
last saffron
we get 36% quality water
fallen pendant
Well for the guns i think ur just going a little deep
tidal leaf
Regarding the infection, it is most likely airborne due to the fact our characters wear gas masks
soft prism
36% water content in our water
fallen pendant
@tidal leaf Yeah we talked about that
last saffron
you have to take into account the place has been abandoned for years
and theres barrels of caustic chemicals
and barely functioning ventilation
pseudo prawn
Crispy has a point there
last saffron
not saying theyre wrong, just pointing
soft prism
yeah, i think it's not to protect from the infection, but from the other hazards
since they're already infected
but i don't think they know
fallen pendant
@pseudo prawn we already talked about that lol but still yes
tidal leaf
It's probably both
pseudo prawn
oh I missed it then
tidal leaf
CBRN is for all types of health hazards
last saffron
still trying to rationalize why does B2 have nothing but shooters
soft prism
also, see how the the suggested action is to retire those prisoners?
fallen pendant
I have no idea what CBRN
fallen pendant
I think we have to think about situation
last saffron
theres not a single striker in B2, hordes summoned by scouts not counting
fallen pendant
every situation
pseudo prawn
too many memory wipes ruined the brain
last saffron
its a diagnostic, it just tells you what you should do
tidal leaf
Also the facility is probably much older than the current time due to weapons like the M16 being found in it
last saffron
it cant force you to take an action, it just tells you the most appropriate action based on its analysis
soft prism
yeah, they're infected, and they're mentally unstabled
tidal leaf
Me irl
pseudo prawn
its cool to be mentally unstable?
last saffron
the facility has been abandoned for "many years"
soft prism
you can talk about gameplay just fine, you can't datamine
last saffron
also note, the weapons from older builds were redesigned, some merged together, some retired
soft prism
i.e. check game files and sounds
and i think us being not retired just means that we're currently the best that the warden has got
since all other prisoners either die or get retired after one mission
tidal leaf
A lot of the weapons shown in the trailer and such are not in the game yet as well
last saffron
D1 implies were not the only team so
tidal leaf
The little audio messages when you start a mission is pretty eerie
fallen pendant
what does it say
soft prism
audio messages?
soft prism
oh yeah
any screenshots of newer ones?
i've only ever seen "don't move when their hearts beat" during beta
last saffron
its description says "High death rate estimated"
ima take a pic and crop so ill post it in a bit
soft prism
again, ties in well with the theory that the four characters are notoriously good
yeah, cheers
tidal leaf
I dont think notoriously good
More like next on the chopping block
Previous team died, we are next
soft prism
well, we're not getting retired
fallen pendant
ALso im really new about like theorys i just listen to them and just go on
pseudo prawn
tell you what, those messages are left by us before the memory wipe, so we can have more and more advantage each time we go down, but since we dont remember it we leave messages, because we might be dreaming of our last mission (memory actually but due to memory wipe character could process it as dream)
fallen pendant
so im really new about this
soft prism
so either worked to death or kept because we get shit done
tidal leaf
The messages indicate the previous teams were killed
last saffron
pseudo prawn
everyone, but doesnt say what. Miners, scientists?
fallen pendant
What is that?
soft prism
ones that were sent to do tasks before us and failed
last saffron
considering how long the place has been empty, im assuming the prisoner teams
fallen pendant
Oooh
tidal leaf
Just finished B2, are we not going to talk about how we are collecting DNA samples of people
last saffron
lemme get another example from C2 pointing out its another teams message
tidal leaf
There is a bunch of fresh corpses throughout the facility
fallen pendant
Or
tidal leaf
No
fallen pendant
just text
tidal leaf
Its text
fallen pendant
:(
tidal leaf
Also warhammer fan?
last saffron
you can barely make out what it says, but it does talk
fallen pendant
SEnd it to me
last saffron
Yep
fallen pendant
i'll try to bass it up
last saffron
dont have audio recording software
fallen pendant
and boost it alot
tidal leaf
The emperor protects...
soft prism
anything you could make out?
fallen pendant
When im at the laptop again
soft prism
oh yeah that'd be great @fallen pendant
tidal leaf
It's mostly unintelligible
fallen pendant
Because rn im on my sister's laptop
tidal leaf
But some screaming
last saffron
it basically reads what the mission is
soft prism
i opened a stream of someone's
and it seems dna samples are needed to access other places
last saffron
soft prism
niiice
last saffron
the dont look up is referring to ||giant mass of flesh on the ceiling||
tidal leaf
In my run of B2, we retrieved a woman named Lindsey (unsure if this is anything worthwhile or just randomly generated)
soft prism
so this rundown we're pretty much getting means to access the rest of the complex
can you post screenshots of other missions
tidal leaf
Anybody engaged the tentacles yet?
fallen pendant
The squid?
tidal leaf
Yes
soft prism
i don't think those are in yet, only new ones are shadows and spikers
tidal leaf
Shadows?
last saffron
yeah
fallen pendant
Ghost thingys?
tidal leaf
These are clearly infected humans btw
last saffron
invisibility isnt something impossible, just not in a way we think of it
tidal leaf
The split skull on the sleepers makes me feel icky
last saffron
Octopi can become invisible
fallen pendant
i really wanna play the game rn
tidal leaf
If you do buy it, the melee is your best friend
soft prism
damn
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their entire skull, minus some elongation, is intact
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they sometimes point at you so i think they have vision
its just extremely poor
they have easier time seeing moving targets
fallen pendant
Shooters?
soft prism
@fallen pendant i dunno, actually
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all of them
soft prism
i don't know if i want to spend money, and i don't have much time to play nowadays
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screens coming up in a bit so
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each mission is a predecessor to the next
fallen pendant
For why they react to light
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The throbbing heart beat and thin skin probably suggest over active illness of somesort
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Like hypermetabolism
soft prism
and on d it seems you get access to the deeper levels
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soft prism
nice
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Sounds like that team was kicking ass
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People advancing
soft prism
must be the previous team
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tidal leaf
If you are moving up, its either for a) a better position or b) to run the fuck away from what's behind you
fallen pendant
One thing
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fallen pendant
Oh yeaaah
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sorry about the order
soft prism
yeah gimme a moment
soft prism
i'll compile those
tidal leaf
This reminds me of old cod zombies days
fallen pendant
I think it's the monsters
Like the last prisoners turned
And the monsters are saying those words
idk men
just a theory
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Also the voice in the trailer is from the PoV of the infected/hive mind
Makes more sense like that
fallen pendant
Thats
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Prob the first ones
soft prism
beat me to it
tidal leaf
Doesn't make sense if Dauda is the one speaking, maybe they just re-used va
soft prism
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Should be easier on pc comrade
tidal leaf
Step by step on how to open a discord attachment
Thanks humanity
Anyway back to the topic
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considering he talks about the wake up sequence from HSUs
fallen pendant
They react to light and sounds dont move when their heat beat everyone, follow the plan we need to move up dont look up dont look up dont look up everyone is dead
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They all die on the D section
Sounds like a big expedition
Not a small group of prisoners
fallen pendant
looks so
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Maybe the initial expedition into the facility
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hold on ill explain why it takes such a death toll. ill mark it with spoiler for those who wanna wait
fallen pendant
THE deeper they w ent the more they panic
soft prism
explain ittttt
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I love this type of horror lore
fallen pendant
Ihave to be back in 30 mins
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I live for this shit
fallen pendant
I have to eat and throw trash
i'll read everything when i come back
Also keep this topic
I have nothing to do until 11 pm
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Hopefully the M16 makes it into full release
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||Starting from zone C, you encounter biomass, hence C2, additionally Spikers begin appearing, and according to descriptions theyre much hardier than your standart host, appearing in great numbers around said biomass. The deeper you go, the worse the infestation is.||
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How do you do the spoiler tag
soft prism
but i'm already hyped for the next rundown
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?
soft prism
:^)
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||C2 to be precise has 2 spots where this gigantic growth is||
i just highlight and right click, discord then lets me "mark as spoiler"
otherwise its uh ||
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Thanks
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||so it's off worldly||
||has to be an alien disease of some sort based on the synopsis and types of monsters||
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not necessarily, it could be a result of reaching ||critical mass and starting to grow about||
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||like the fucking flood from halo||
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i really dislike the idea of ||alien|| shenanigans, hoping for it to be more of earthly origins, prehistoric even
considering where the facility is
someone proposed it might be related to deep sea stuff
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||but an asteroid impacted at the chixclub crater||
Deal sea would be cool
Interesting plot point and unique
Or could be some resident evil level shit
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the crater itself is under layers of sediment, mixed with granite
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not just any granite, the kind which appears only deep in the crust
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Impact would have unearthed or compacted the normal granite more
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their target depth was 1,500 m (4,900 ft) below the bottom of the ocean, but they reached an acceptable 1,335 m (4,380 ft)
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Well the facility in game is clearly deeper than that
So we can assume that they either found something to spur government interest or found something later
When they had better technology
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Goes deeper
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yeah the last zone
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We just cant play that yet
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not sure it exceeds 1500 though
D1 is roughly 200+ ish meters under C sector so i assume whatever is under it also lies around same depth away
unless the map scale makes it smaller in order to fit
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This is very, very interesting
clear crescent
if the underground is honeycombed then its gotta be far apart
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So they must have found something for them to build facilities
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Which we can say the timeline split then
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heres the entire facility layout
as presented by Warden PoV
C by far is the largest sector which can explain the ||biomass||
due to sheer amount of personnel who were likely there at the time
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C seems to be the main R&D area
So that makes sense
I feel fucking bad for the employees
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not only you dont just get killed
you get turned into them
wouldnt be too far from death to be fair, considering all trace of their former selves is just
gone
sleepers do curl up in a way which makes me pity them though
clear crescent
well the corpses you find were in the process, not neccessarily turning after death
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not sure if those are lucky or not given the way we find them, the full ones especially
seems like a horrible way to go
fallen pendant
back guys
clear crescent
i mean, do we know if we turn?
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i doubt our chars will turn into Hosts for both gameplay and story reasons, it is implied theyre infected
i think audio/text logs will have a reason why
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Also what happens to the clothes
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you can find the suits laying around, untouched
fallen pendant
I dont really thinkthey feed tho
clear crescent
hopefully, be nice to know all that the warden is uploading to us
fallen pendant
They just kill
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sometimes in full piles
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So did they strip while turned
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sometimes you get just jackets/pants, sometimes full suits
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Or
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some corpses still have them on
judging by how intact they are, they probably strip at some stage of the infection
due to irritation
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They are very sensetive
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And $1 bills
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I think
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Yeah he's fucked
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heres Fat McFatson from Alpha
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Looks like his body was mutating and it just couldn't take it
Or he was shot
The blood is not dry
So it's fairly recent
Corpse is decently decomposed
So maybe a week or two
fallen pendant
It's not that dry
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thats the strange part
fallen pendant
But dry
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It's like gelatinous
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the complex has been out of commission for years yet the corpses you find feel like theyve been like that for at most a week
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Prisoners?
clear crescent
no bacteria in the tunnels?
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Survivors?
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sometimes you find arms, legs or just piles of flesh
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No way
clear crescent
steralized living space for humanity belowground
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A complex that big could potentially have a few pockets of people scraping about
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youd be amazed how resilient humans are
a guy lived for a week or so in a sunken ship on nothing but coca cola
tidal leaf
Armories and security personal would be surviving longer than your average egg head
soft prism
it'd be awesome if we discovered traces of survivors via text and audio logs
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until being accidentally found
soft prism
or even interacted with some during missions
but i feel warden would probably steer us away from survivors
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they would pose both curiosity and potential for critical failure
a survivor, if they see you, might ruin your cover by going out of their way to get to you
if theyre not insane at this point
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The info they have on the other hand is possibly worth the risk
soft prism
actually, i feel like survivors wouldn't make it purely because of the infection
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^
clear crescent
youve got welded up doors everywhere, if people can move through the vents
tidal leaf
Its airborne
soft prism
our characters simply didn't have time to convert yet thanks to stasis between missions
at least, that's what i think
fallen pendant
It's very hard
soft prism
though it would be cool to find traces of/actual survivors
fallen pendant
HSU?
clear crescent
it does say a lot of them are malfunctiong
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some are deactivated, some normal, some malfunctioning
tidal leaf
Possible that the warden sends teams of infected people in because they are expendable
If its malfunctioning, no
If it's normal, most likely
soft prism
you think some of survivors could crawl into HSUs in a desperate attempt to survive and be rescued?
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ive been trying to sneak a peek inside through observation glass
you can make out a shape, but its way too foggy
soft prism
and the warden just leaves them there because they don't have any value?
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Or
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HSU are big
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It could be documented stages of infection
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i doubt the team can haul them back easily
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Freeze some dude/dudette in stage 1
soft prism
yeah, they might have been researched
fallen pendant
thats lit
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What is that
clear crescent
warden needs samples for someting, mainly security override but could be for research
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one of the environments, noone knows exactly
fallen pendant
OH DAMN
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Yep
fallen pendant
So the complex knewe it from the start
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perhaps not from the start
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Accidental
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the way id like it, if someone got accidentally exposed to whatever it is
soft prism
if they could be contained, maybe there's some other reason for shit hitting the fan, other than "oh noez outbreak"
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And then most likely like "hey this is cool, let's research"
soft prism
corporate sabotage?
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and Santonian building up a place to check what the actual fuck is it
tidal leaf
The whole "mining operation" was probably a front
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the plot of resident evil 4 is that to be fair
villagers inhaled parasitic spores from a mine
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This is kinda like Dead space
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Santonian has two names by the way
tidal leaf
Now we just need plasma cutter
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Santonian Mining Industries and Santonian Strategic Investment Group
soft prism
huuh
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third one is just Santonian Industries
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Different divisions
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Same company
Def. Military contracts
Explains the heavy government style presence
And the guns and ammo everywhere
But which government
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well you dont find any guns really, just ammo
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doesnt have to be tied to a government ' v' Amazon is like a step away from having a personal army
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Bruh PMC's cant have vehicles
I swear I've seen armoured vehicles inside the complex
Or are we not going to talk about how the hole we come in through is blown outwards from the inside
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we discussed it alot and can continue to do so since i like to speculate on it
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it doesnt quite feel like an explosion, nor a cave in because theyre bent upwards
on every single level
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Weird
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its like something forced its way up
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Worm?
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what however, because it has to be absolutely gigantic to do so
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Worm
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the way spikes jut upwards