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#gtfo-lore
fickle garden
inland fjord
if you had access t root now thats a diffrent thing
fickle garden
but then that means where are at square one again
midnight spoke
How
fickle garden
and we do not know if the base is still connected or not
maybe maybe not
mabe he is working of old "offline" information maybe he has just some acces
inland fjord
or warden can just access minimal information about the site
needing dna samples and ID cards to access certain sections
midnight spoke
Which I think is likely, it explains how how he can monitor things and know exactly what is there instead of having a list of maybes
fickle garden
"mabe he is working of old "offline" information maybe he has JUSZ SOME ACCES"
well it does not have to be maybes
its not like these monsters move cargo or anything
inland fjord
you can have access to the system from stuff left on the surface but what you are using may not have the ability access that much
fickle garden
or you have scavangers
midnight spoke
Yes, but there's a chance things were used or lost during the outbreak of whatever the fuck the monsters are
fickle garden
same with data
fickle garden
i mean digital data
inland fjord
also the place has been left alone for a long time so data can get corrupted
midnight spoke
We've given explanations for that
fickle garden
he does not give you a map with all the stuff everywhere
and so we concluded that he does not have full acces
midnight spoke
No one said he did
fickle garden
we can only proof that he has full acces to the network untill then he can have partialy or no acces
midnight spoke
I was just saying he obviously has access my dude
midnight spoke
Yes
fickle garden
when i go to the arehouse of my company
midnight spoke
Tell me this
fickle garden
i can take a cargo manifest without booting up any pc
midnight spoke
Is your warehouse a broke down top secret base which has been abandoned?
Which means a lot of the paperwork would likely be gone
midnight spoke
Because the base is abandoned
fickle garden
could be digital cargo manifests
midnight spoke
When people leave top secret things, they tend to remove paperwork
fickle garden
maybe that what he needed the admin DNA for
midnight spoke
So, partial access then?
fickle garden
who sayed anyone ever leaved this base we do not know what happend or how fast
nope
maybe just a hard drive
midnight spoke
It's abandoned, as stated
fickle garden
with the cargo data
inland fjord
do we even know how admins work other than that they are admins
fickle garden
nope
midnight spoke
That means they left
inland fjord
they could literally only have admin access on that certain sector
fickle garden
no i does not mean that
midnight spoke
It does
fickle garden
they could all DIED
midnight spoke
How does Warde know what he does
fickle garden
that is even easier
midnight spoke
Because partial access
fickle garden
just hit a key and run a program that otherride every hard drive with bestro resepies
partial acces is not profen
fickle garden
also that is cyrcular logic parital acces is true. why? because we know some stuff. Why not "offline" data? because partial acces
midnight spoke
No, you're just not accepting any explanation other than your own
fickle garden
yes i accept your explanation
midnight spoke
It's like the army thing, you wouldn't accept another opinion
inland fjord
warden could be able to scan sertain sectors to see whats in them without being able to see where they are specially
midnight spoke
And I'm only saying it's unlikely due to his accidentally to information he has
fickle garden
that is alos an option
"And I'm only saying it's unlikely due to his accidentally to information he has" what?
sorry i do not get what you mean there
inland fjord
just the way you can list what are in diffrent zones but not be able to tell where they are without being in that zone
fickle garden
yeah and there could be different reasons for that
- like hermit sayed they only share some information
- they did share infromation but it was cut (maybe as a security measure)
- they where never connected
midnight spoke
Paperwork likely wouldn't survive that type of environment though, yet alone if they did vacate the building, they'd take paperwork with them which is pretty standard from a business point of view and secret point of view
fickle garden
who sayed that is has to be paperwrok
it can be paperwork
it can also be a hard drive
inland fjord
well the area seems moist due to all the fog and some areas having the roof leak so paper would not last long
fickle garden
with all the stuff on it
inland fjord
and harddrives dont like moisture that much
fickle garden
well we do not know when they took the information
maybe the facility had some sort of black box with info on it
maybe not
maybe they still have connection and hermit is in the right
we do not know
inland fjord
or there are server rooms or other areas with information still in good condition
fickle garden
and untill we can proof or disprove we do not know
midnight spoke
Must have been after the abandonment, because as stated, no other way to know what items have been used by personal during the incident
inland fjord
and those have been retrieved from expeditions done before we go in
fickle garden
yes thats what blackboxes are for hermit
but i am awak fare too long
my point is
we do not know
maybe warden has some acces or they use old data
midnight spoke
They record things, yes. But they have a life span and activate during such incidents, recording afterwards is unlikely
inland fjord
right now almost everything is as accurate as everything else we can guess
fickle garden
we do not know and we can (for now) not prove or disprove these possiblilitys
shut herald
I was gonna say the game has like no lore rn
We won't know shit till it's actually in game
inland fjord
we can guess looking at what we currently have
midnight spoke
Night
fickle garden
even if i missed out on some serius zes
last saffron
a quick reminder to check pinned messages for lore summary about what we know so far, however it might need some updating soon with addition of spikers and biomass on level C
lyric pivot
Hello! I’m new here... does anyone know if there are any websites or stuff with lore archives?
atomic tree
That would require for any lore to be archived tho 😛
floral plaza
Sorry, didn't realize where I was xD
atomic tree
Np
midnight spoke
I came across a enemy called the "shadow" in the wikipedia, any clues on what that is?
here's the wiki if you want it @lyric pivot
is this what the spiker is?
atomic tree
D1 man, D1
midnight spoke
If I even make it that far
twilit berry
does anyone have a screen shot of one of those
tall anchor
You can see some of the shadows in the trailer
tall anchor
Enemy scanner has changd a bit by the looks of it
midnight spoke
That is terrifying
tall anchor
and they are very tall holy snap
atomic tree
They are all sizes
tall anchor
tru actually
midnight spoke
Am I correct to assume the shooters were shadows too?
In that video?
If so, I'm now terrified of the possibility of a scout shadow
atomic tree
Shadows are just the standard enemies, but invis
tall anchor
No, all the shadows have the weird white thing that spikes you
atomic tree
So you get strikers and shooters
tall anchor
I don't think you get variants
midnight spoke
Hopefully it remains that way
atomic tree
I hope we get something new to deal with, like the scout, during the stealth part of the game.
midnight spoke
I'm assuming as the rundown evolves, as will the enemy
so there will probably be new things ahead
tall anchor
maybe
atomic tree
Hopefully, because otherwise the game will go stale in the long run
tall anchor
I gotta say, I'm really impressed content wise
don't think it will go stale for a while
atomic tree
Me too I ain't worried about it yet, but a similar game, Hunt: Showdown really fell off because they didn't expand the enemy pool.
midnight spoke
In saying that, GTFO is pretty unique and that will make it float for a while
hot tendon
yea everyone will be happy that it just came out but how long will that last we shall see
cyan laurel
Im loving GTFO. Im really scared though that with customization and a progression system the game might get to cluttered. Im loving it how it is right now. Keep the same formula just add more rundowns and i think it would be perfect
atomic tree
Agreed, that is why I just want them to focus with enemy and object variety
cyan laurel
Yeah. I get that a lot of people love customizing their gear and having a progression system but this game absolutely does not need that.
atomic tree
Yeah, but with dev team of 8, you kinda have to prioritize.
proven agate
they already have plans for more gear options and customization
They haven't said what extent the customization will take
pale grove
Oh it's eight? I heard it was like nine.
tall anchor
it's 9
proven agate
It's 9
pale grove
Okey
atomic tree
well one of them is a music composer sooo
tall anchor
One of them is part time legal guy though
pale grove
Fair enough yeah.
atomic tree
Well, my point is just there is limited people who does texture, 3d modeling.
atomic tree
Also Simon?
tall anchor
Simon doesn't just do the sound and music
pale grove
simon is low-key legendary
atomic tree
Oh, I thought Simon was sound and music
pale grove
He is. But he's other things I assume.
tall anchor
He also does game design, comm management, and the story
pale grove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-fz4f5Vlzc#
He's just really damn good with music.
pale grove
i just grabbed the first one that came to mind okay
pale grove
Very talented group of people. Basically.
atomic tree
Well, anyways, little team and I'd rather have better enemies, levels and mechanics than "uh dope looking skin"
Like L4D lasted long because the core gameplay worked and new maps kept it fresh, there were no progression or cosmetic (beside free workshop skins)
Same with counterstrike 1.6 to source. We are just conditioned nowadays to get feeded useless fluff to mask shallow gameplay.
pale grove
Yeah. I'd say customization etc would be the lowest priority thing.
Gameplay 100% comes first.
atomic tree
And I would say this game is 80% done in gameplay. have an amazing foundation. But if it needs to be played for years it needs more variety.
atomic tree
Well, it need to have a certain impact of the flow, like the scout makes you re-think your usual approach.
I think 2-3 more wandering mobs like scout would be good. Each one of them changing how you tackle that room.
pale grove
Yeah.
atomic tree
Which I admit, is darn hard, as I can't really think of something that ain't just a scout.
Like only thing I can think of is an stationary enemy that is like a sleeper, but if you bop it or alert it is start pumping out a thick fog in the room.
pale grove
I mean... To blatantly take shit from other games.
Stuff like Lurkers from Dead Space or like a Smoker from L4D
Maybe an actual sort of like Spitter similar to L4D's Spitter. I'unno.
To elaborate for those not knowledgeable.
Lurkers from Dead Space are basically tiny little shits that climb walls.
Smokers from L4D are special infected that can basically grab you from a distance and slowly pull you in. Teammates can interrupt this by just pushing you, attacking the 'tongue' or killing the Smoker.
Spitter from L4D, special infected again. They fire projectiles that leave pools of damaging liquid that fades away over time. They leave a smaller puddle on death as well.
proven agate
@atomic tree the customization isn't what you are thinking
It's customization like weapon attachments and such that they are talking about I believe
Not pink gun skins
midnight spoke
@pale grove There is a monster which grabs people and incapacitates them, drags them around etc
I don't think it's in this rundown though, no idea
pale grove
Is there? I'm still at A1.
proven agate
It's not in this rundown
pale grove
i just popped in like today so
midnight spoke
There's that, there's the shadows too (which was discussed before)
pale grove
Mmk
midnight spoke
probably more too
If you watch the interview about the game, they have some hilarious initial designs too
proven agate
For right now the only three types we have are the big and small "strikers", big and small "shooters", and scouts
pale grove
Fair enough.
midnight spoke
yep
proven agate
The big toe headed looking dudes are just strikers
tall anchor
no
proven agate
But bigger
pale grove
Cause I've spotted a few like, huge lads.
midnight spoke
Strikers are the melee ones
proven agate
Oh we also have the C1 lads
tall anchor
strikers are normal sized ones that run around with the split faces
midnight spoke
then you got them big strikers
tall anchor
giants are the big ones
midnight spoke
and spike bois
proven agate
Since when are they called giants?
pale grove
Fair enough.
tall anchor
or just “big” as a prefix
proven agate
Oh okay not an official name
pale grove
Me and my friends just call them chonks.
tall anchor
yeah
midnight spoke
Feels good to melee them with the group
unborn gale
midnight spoke
They aren't zombies
midnight spoke
Well, they've said the monsters aren't zombies or aliens
midnight spoke
just something unique, seems to be a parasitic infection tbh
pale grove
My friend's general term for them is "Freaks"
midnight spoke
Casual reminder, this could've been one of the enemies
atomic tree
Fitting name, since they are all naruto running weebs
midnight spoke
pale grove
We have Freaks, the sleepers or whatever.
Feelers, the Scouts
And Chonks, the big creatures.
Yeah that, Mcree.
I lost all fear when I saw a single one of them doing that.
atomic tree
Well, tbh, I don't really find the game -scary-
midnight spoke
that was an interesting design
They're all interesting designs
Man, I still need to do B1 and here I am talking lore
atomic tree
Just did B2 today, good times, didn't die, can recommend
midnight spoke
We nearly finished b1 this morning, but someone slipped up and hit a giant out of sync
and then you get the guys who just solo the maps
atomic tree
I found a rather good core group, we are not the best around, but at least we know what to do on paper 😛
pale grove
i haven't even done A1 yet
lilac island
Oof
atomic tree
The leap of difficulty is crazy
midnight spoke
It is nice though, it shocks you
As soon as you think you have a grip on it, "Oh hey, let's fuck you around"
The further down, the more teamwork needed
pale grove
Yeah me and my friends just don't play often to make much headway quickly.
proven agate
C2 was probably the biggest difficulty spike overall
atomic tree
Great can't wait to get my arse kicked. I just done B2. . .
atomic tree
So I've heard
Maybe the Devs undershoot the difficulty of D1 bc of the new enemy type?
proven agate
Well by the time a team gets there they probably just understand the game well enough to handle what the mission is doing tbh
It is designed in a very intelligent way to force players to struggle with resources
So if you're already playing hyper conservatively as a group, the challenge of the missions is negated somewhat
livid cape
the difficulty spike and resource mangment reminds me of Vermintide 2 so, I find bigger rooms to be the biggest leap for difficulty personally
proven agate
Vertical rooms are the hardest we found
There are some nastily designed multifloor rooms
atomic tree
It is SO amazing that the enemies can trigger if they below or above grates.
proven agate
Amazing and difficult to deal with when trying to kill sleepers stacked on top of each other
lilac island
Ye
deep birch
Those multifloor rooms.. They're real nasty. It's a whole lot of fun, though, if you kill 4 sleepers all right next to each other without anyone messing up. I absolutely love that kind of teamwork. Makes clearing rooms stealthily easy and honestly really fun.
I also love the fear factor of if you fuck up, you're probably going to get a wave that blows through your resources and forces you to set up turrets immediately.
atomic tree
Love the back section of B2
deep birch
I do kinda wish the monsters were a bit more frightening, like the big dude who loses a head and arm and still walks at you. Or loses half his body and still comes at you.
Now that's just not ok
My group and I have been on b2 a bit. We messed up big time on a few runs, so we kinda just messed around. We can only really play like 2-3 hours a night, and B2 is pretty damn long if you don't quickly stealth as much as you can. My group tells me I had a lot of balls for moving up to a sleeper as quickly as I can when they're not detecting.
atomic tree
Well, I guess fear is very subjective frankly.
hot tendon
Just got to c1 its pretty simple just need to keep track of resources really
deep birch
People feel pressure on sleepers. I get it. They've got detection mechs, you slip up, you lose everything.
I do fine with stealth like 90% of the time. Sometimes I mess up and they don't die instantly. :(
hot tendon
Yea but just gotta make sure to only move when you don't see them glow
deep birch
One of our guys is starting t oget the hang of stealthing. He used to not like it at all and would sit back. But when you need 4 people to knock out a cluster of 4 sleepers.. Gotta learn fast.
Or hear them clicking.
hot tendon
It happens tho couple times last round I did
deep birch
I just go by the sound of clicking when I'm moving past them, tbh. I always take the furthest one.
hot tendon
Yea its pretty easy once you get the hang of stealth
deep birch
I've been finding it easier to move when they don't detect. Right up until I'm next to them and they become sensitive to the sound of my breath.
hot tendon
Then you have to deal with fog in b1 lol
deep birch
THen I sit there.. Next to 3-4 like.. I WANT TO MOVE 10 CHAMBERS, LET ME LIVE
lilac island
Tbh
hot tendon
And b2 takes like 2 hours to beat sometimes
lilac island
When I hear sound of your breath
deep birch
LMAO
lilac island
I was thinking, how fucking loud can it be
deep birch
Right? You hear the dude wheezing straight up.
hot tendon
I made it to the very end in b1 and we all died at extraction once
2 hours wasted lol
fiery kestrel
@hot tendon how do you get your role? 😮
deep birch
I was thinking the first night I played this with my group, I literally told them it felt like a rollercoaster that you think you're prepared for, but aren't. Someone replied with "The Tower of Terror" and ever since I've just told them we're going in the ToT every time we launch.
And I hear my guy wheezing hella hard.
lilac island
I imagine what happens if they input your mic into the game itself, like, you talk and if they hear you, it’s game over
Like alien isolation style
hot tendon
Haha that's crazy
deep birch
I think we 1 shot b1, but can't do the same with b2. B2 is insane. But I'm loving the mechanics of the game, the difficulty, and the layout of the floors / maps. However you wwanna call the levels.
hot tendon
Yea alot of ppl would be screwed lol
fiery kestrel
ty ty
deep birch
LMAO
lilac island
Me- oh fuck
hot tendon
Yea the more you practice and play the levels and rooms the more u will know what to do the next time and better
lilac island
Every enemy in the game- You’re mine now
deep birch
Except when the next time around you have one big dude in a corner surrounded by 4 little ones.
hot tendon
Yea now that's a pain in the ass lol ^^
lilac island
Lol
hot tendon
Been there
hot tendon
A1 and b1 are so simple now thankfully b2 sucks ass and c1 is easy just scary at times
lilac island
Oof
fiery kestrel
b1 is easy? :\
deep birch
That run we got the big guy to only his legs and an ass. And I swear.. I was on the ground mistaking it for a little guy. When I got picked up I looked at it and just stared.
I'm not sure if that was intentional on 10C part, but that's terrifying.
B1 is pretty easy.
deep birch
We 1 shot b1 and have been stuck on b2 trolling half our attempts, and seriously attempting the other half.
fiery kestrel
k ty
hot tendon
Stealth as much as possible even when you alert them
lilac island
Did he just seriously take my tip?
deep birch
A1 should be stealth practice. Then B1 you should attempt to stealth as much of it as possible since the later levels will require it with how difficult they get due to lack of resources.
deep birch
I honestly don't remember what B1 was about.
hot tendon
Dont forget there is a jump and slide feature in the game you can jump off a box and melee lol that's what I do and u can run and slide and doge
deep birch
We've been bobbing and weaving in our matches, using our hammers in the heat of combat LOL
hot tendon
Yup melee is the way to go
lilac island
Lmao
lilac island
In game I did
lilac island
When me and Ghost were ducking around
deep birch
The game has that tension and the anticipation that someone's going to botch the room. And it makes the game a bit stressful if you can't manage stealth.
But when you go loud and your team starts using hammers it gets real funny and every sense of the word "fear" loses meaning.
lilac island
Yep
deep birch
One of our team during a ruined run started taking the "Unstable/Unknown" mental state to heart.. Shit you not, we opened a door, saw some monsters behind it, he went in and I closed it behind him. He legitimately said "I'm one of you guys now..." Walked up to one and thumped it. I just loved hearing him say that, then hear a thump shortly after.
hot tendon
Haha yea especially when there is a group of 4 and you need the whole team to take them out and you fuck up on the countdown and alert the whole room of 20 sleepers and 3 big guys that's always fun lol
deep birch
I absolutely love the kind of bond this game can create, and how much fun you can have just by ruining a run and going with it, or taking it seriously and trying to beat the level to progress. It's honestly a great game so far and I hope it stays that way.
lilac island
It’s pretty fun tho
hot tendon
Yea I've met alot of good ppl playing this game and I always go back to a1 to help new ppl its just been alot of fun so far lol
hot tendon
And it's only been 3 days so far for me lol
lilac island
gets warned for wrong chat
hot tendon
I would if it wasn't 130 am lol
lilac island
|| I didn’t||
deep birch
Yea that's the wrong chat Shaza lol
hot tendon
Ik @lilac island
lilac island
I’m just fucking around. Lol
hot tendon
Ik lol
deep birch
Also I would, but my group usually starts at 2:30, and I still have to clean my room a wee bit before I move houses and eat. But eating is for the weak, so.. cleaning it is.
lilac island
Wait
hot tendon
I never eat for some reason
lilac island
2:30 at night?
deep birch
yea
hot tendon
Am
hot tendon
Fuck that shit lol
hard echo
its 07:32am here xD
deep birch
One guy's on vacation, one guy works from 4 pm to 2 am, I work up to 4-5 pm, come home and crash (polyphasic sleep schedule) and the other I think also works afternoons.
lilac island
It’s 1:32 over here
deep birch
So our fun comes late at night for 2-3 hours.
hot tendon
Me 2
lilac island
Imagine that I change my name to TheFalseUprising
deep birch
I want to get into streaming for this game. I like it more than when I streamed KF2 back in EA. Both are fun games. But KF2 coop and GTFO coop are different skill levels.
But I need to test it out and see how that goes.
lilac island
I used to play kf2
hot tendon
@lilac island everyone in my discord makes that damn joke lol
lilac island
Lmao
deep birch
get rekt
hot tendon
Haha
deep birch
tbh you guys tempt me to stream test tonight lol
hot tendon
I already made stream overlays for the game a while ago one of my fans actually got it for me to play with him
deep birch
I've never done an overlay.
Every time I've seen one, I've liked the look of them.
deep birch
Most I've done is set up certain windows to block out things like chat. Toxicity can't be allowed on stream. :^)
OBS.
lilac island
The prime status on streamlabs kinda sucks
hot tendon
@lilac island I use adobe and photoshope to make overlays and streamlabs what do u guys use lol
lilac island
I use GIMP to make my pics
hot tendon
I never use gimp idk how lol
deep birch
last I was told OBS was best for the free streaming route. Xsplit was best for pay stream route. That was a long time ago, but still rolling with OBS due to familiarity.
hot tendon
I use obs to record for YouTube and streamlabs for streaming
deep birch
I also don't use Gimp. I just make another window, pop a picture I like in, block chat. ezpz.
And seeing as to how I'm enjoying this game, I definitely do not want to risk any chance of being unable to stream it.
hot tendon
Idk I never have an issue with any game
hot tendon
Ik
deep birch
Neither of which I know how to use. :^)
hot tendon
Haha
lilac island
It blacks out and when I enter/leave the game(not quiting) it stays blacked out
So yea
Thro I do prefer the original obs
deep birch
I've never had that issue.
hot tendon
It's all easy if you've used them 100 times like me YouTube stuff and streaming I've done so much uts pretty simple now lol
deep birch
I wanted to dabble with YT but then I was like... ehhh, why bother.
Made a few vids a while back for a survival coop game that was also in Early Access, but didn't do much after.
hot tendon
Yup
lilac island
Lmao
deep birch
I would like to stream regularly, but man I'm bad at holding a schedule and streaming daily, or when ever.
hot tendon
Idk why I'm still awake lol
deep birch
TIME TO SLEEP, FALSE PROPHET!
hot tendon
Haha
lilac island
Yea
Didn’t have a job or any day work
So I’m usually up almost all night
Then sleep until noon
hot tendon
YouTube is my job I'm a stay at home dad for now
lilac island
Nice
deep birch
my sleep is polyphasic 'cause I stay up better at night than I do during the day.
Naisu. I wish I could be a stay at home dad again.
Minus the dad part.
lilac island
I’ve been streaming and recording, but barely upload to YouTube
hot tendon
Haha
lilac island
Started doing it for one of my stream s now
Then planned on doing a GTFO stream video for it
The recording of course
hot tendon
Well I have to go to bed but if you guys want u can friend or dm me and I can send u guys links to my discord that has alot of ppl that play this game together and other games and we can stream or record it do whatever together it called The Uprising of course lol
deep birch
I would like to see a lot of GTFO content creators, tbh. The game doesn't seem to be too well known unless you're actually looking for something like this.
hot tendon
Just let me know with dm ttyl
deep birch
AYYY TIME TO JOIN YOUR SERVER AND CALL YOU A FALSE PROPHET ALL DAY
lilac island
Lmao
hot tendon
And I already recorded a video for gtfo just need time to edit it when I'm not playing it lol
lilac island
@deep birch let me know when you’re ready so I can join ya
I don’t edit, I’m full content
Mainly due not having a video editor
deep birch
I'm not going to be streaming for another hour-ish at most. Asuming we're all set by 2:30 and not like.. almost 3 lol.
lilac island
Yea
deep birch
I think the worst of it will be the quality. Mostly the audio.
I've had that issue in the past.
lilac island
If you need help with it, I can help
hot tendon
Adobe premier pro is my editing tool
deep birch
I would like that. One of the other guys wants to maybe get into it with me. I would enjoy a squad that does that solely for have separate roles and perspectives.
lilac island
I got used to Sony Vegas in the past
hot tendon
That's what I used when I started yt
lilac island
When I had my 21 subs but deleted the channel cause of unwanted spam in my email
hot tendon
Yea
hot tendon
Currently at 241
lilac island
Not bad
hot tendon
When isnt it cracked ;)
hot tendon
My Adobe is lol
deep birch
When I streamed KF2 a while back I had a decent following. Idr the numbers, but had people watching me daily.
Then I switched up and got a new twitch account.
lilac island
I’m at 26 followers
hot tendon
Yea that's sweet
hot tendon
I'm at 43 but have to log back into my twitch account
lilac island
But barely upload
deep birch
I gotta do it all over again, but I've got a group that actually PLAYS the game with me. I never had anyone play KF2 with me. And GTFO is more fun for us than any other game currently. So I think I should be ok.
deep birch
I'ma go clean. But props to the devs for making a great game.
Going back to the topic of lore. :^)
lilac island
Yep
deep birch
Night, False Prophet!
hot tendon
Night ppl
deep birch
I'll hit you up in a bit, Shaz
quick flax
does the Shooters throw their zit at us as their attacks?
atomic tree
Most likely eggs sacks or sporepods
midnight spoke
sporepods I believe
Also might explain the infected levels measured at the end of missions
atomic tree
Mhm, but the mutations also give big tongues, so that would indicate a parasite.
midnight spoke
Well, it's a growth that extEnds and bites, spores can lead to fungal or plant like growth, still plausible
extends*
atomic tree
Yeah, but how does fungus mutates people into getting vagina teeth heads?
midnight spoke
Depends on how it operates, it's plausible the fungus has a gene editing bacterium with it, thus resulting in the changes
atomic tree
That is plausible. But I guess a lot of things are when you enter sci-fi territory
midnight spoke
Yeah, especially when a lot about the game is still unknown
atomic tree
But my guess is more on parasites tho.
midnight spoke
Hmm, I understand but I disagree, parasites normally don't affect bodies and just suck up nutrients until the hosts dies, or they keep them alive and reproduce that way
Tape worms are a good example
As are tics and leaches
atomic tree
But well, if you notice, the big guys is hollow when you shoot them open.
midnight spoke
Which means nothing for the parasite to survive with
atomic tree
But we also have the big grabby arm from the trailer. That just don't look fungus at all
midnight spoke
That's true
And the things in the arms and heads don't live after you pop them off, so could definitely be parasitic
But that leaves me with so many more questions xD
midnight spoke
Hell, it could be a result of DNA splicing
atomic tree
Well, the warden is crazy about getting dem DNA samples
midnight spoke
Speaking of, I want to know what the warden has over the scrappers, how is he controlling them
atomic tree
Well, you are in a hydrostasis unit when you deploy and you extract from a hydrostasis unit.
deep birch
Probably by force. Sure, they could commit suicide in the facility. But they're probably asleep until the mission starts.
Their mental condition is also.. lacking.
atomic tree
I mean if they truly wanted to die, they'd just cap themselves as soon they got deployed.
deep birch
True
midnight spoke
They're in HSU at the beginning of rounds, so they're probably frozen until then
deep birch
I imagine there might be a reasoning for them not doing that later down the line when more lore gets released.
midnight spoke
But they were obviously scrapping when the warden came across them
atomic tree
obviously scrapping? what proof do you have of that?
midnight spoke
Well they're scrappers and scavengers, the complex is in the middle of the ocean, most likely possibility is that they were scrapping nearby or the top of the complex, as it is "abandoned"
atomic tree
Don't think so, why should a guy like Bishop be Scrapping? Why should a guy like Woods be scrapping?
midnight spoke
Because in the interviews they were described as scavengers, scavengers loot and scrap
atomic tree
Hmm, interesting point.
midnight spoke
Also explains the equipment they have being mining or low grade weaponry, not advanced military
atomic tree
Yes and no
light bramble
I think I read somewhere about the complex is located near a meteor strike location in Mexico where a mining company had set up shop looking for rare minerals when things started going pear shaped
midnight spoke
another person said Japan, so double check that
deep birch
If you looked at the pinned messages, one of them has a fair bit of info from way back when that still proves to be a good bit of info now.
It's nearby Mexico.
It's theorized to either be a research facility or a mining facility because of all the research equipment, and because the weapons appear to be repurposes mining equipment.
midnight spoke
Copy
atomic tree
@deep birch That is confirmed with the name of the Santonian Industries name.
deep birch
yea
It's a good chunk of info so far
Nothing too in depth but it gives the lore a base
atomic tree
Santonian is the age where we walked the dinosaurs.
midnight spoke
that's actually neat as hell
atomic tree
So it makes sense with the Chicxulub crater that is located in mexico
light bramble
Basic plot seems to be Mining Company poked a space rock one time too many unleashing an unknown pathogen that created the sleepers you see in the complex and the players are in a boxed crook situation where the Warden keeps sending them into the complex with the explanation, "Because I said so"
deep birch
Couldn't the facility be both? It's theorized to be well beyond 2020, they could've just been mining and maybe experimenting with shit they shouldn't be.
Problem with it being just a mining facility is all the research stuff you find in it.
light bramble
Well the location of the complex is rather telling
deep birch
And your objectives being so.. weird.
light bramble
Why locate the complex near a meteor site if you don't have to
It just creates logistic problems that don't need to exist unless there is some reason why they felt the complex had to be built over the meteor
deep birch
Probably a bit of both. They wanted to experiment with it, needed people who could dive in and get what they needed.
midnight spoke
two prong company? It mines while doing shady shit people don't know about?
light bramble
or it's a mines of moria situation where they dug too greedily and too deep
deep birch
Your objectives don't line up with it being one, though. You go in for various things like DNA samples, or HSUs. I don't see a mining company needing any of that.
Could've just been a facility that held two types of people.
Plus it's not like you're being sent in to decimate the population so that the Warden and any people associated can dive right back in.
light bramble
The DNA samples and HSUs could have been attempts by the company to "fix" the problem they discovered after poking said space rock one time too many
deep birch
HSU MAYBE, I can see the company needing to force people in like the Warden.
Not sure how a DNA sample is going to help them stop a massacre.
light bramble
Look for a cure to make the problem go away so they don't have a mountain of lawsuits
maybe?
languid walrus
I feel like The Warden wants to keep the massacre going on,
deep birch
Well if there was a massacre in the first place, the Warden doesn't seem to care much about it.
languid walrus
So a DNA sample would allow it to get more test subjects.
atomic tree
I think the gist of the story is following: Santonian Industries mines in the Crater (based on some real life drillings done in 2016). They find -something- down there, that might not been super harmful and collaborate with what we now know as the Warden. Warden moves down to into the complex and set up labs at the lower levels, away from the gaze of governmental control and such. Somewhere beyond the year 2020 an outbreak happens and totally eradicate the Complex. The Warden says "fuck that shit" and put a lid on the whole operation and let it simmer for a couple of years, hoping that most monsters would get bored and die/decay. And now have re-open the hole to sent people down to salvage whatever useful information and date.
languid walrus
You don't even know if the Warden is human or an AI.
deep birch
According to the tidbit of lore, the facility was abandoned by the people, and eventually those monsters settled in.
If that's true, there was no massacre.
light bramble
It's more interesting if it's an AI so that's what I'm hoping they go with
deep birch
Same
There's so much more to work with when it comes to an AI. A group of people.. that becomes predictable.
light bramble
plus you don't have to answer pesky questions like who is he?
deep birch
Could've been previous attempts from the Warden with different teams.
languid walrus
Or if it would turn into a karma averted trope, such as Dark Escape, where the characters find the kidnapper's video streams to them were prerecorded and by the time you reach the surveillance room, he is long gone.
light bramble
If you answer the question of who is the Warden with he's an AI, most people will just accept that answer and move on
But if the Warden is an actual person they start demanding backstories and such
midnight spoke
they have the mining company logo on them
deep birch
With an AI a backstory could be demanded still.
Such as who set up the AI, did it go haywire, etc.
languid walrus
Hackett wears clothing that has the Santonian Industries logo on the chest.
light bramble
Yeah but it's less problematic if there isn't one for an AI
languid walrus
And I don't really buy the answer that he just found it somewhere.
deep birch
True
Is Hackett the 3rd guy in the lobby? His armor looks so damn different from everyone else.
languid walrus
Middle right.
deep birch
SO 3rd. :^)
light bramble
Since so far the Warden seems to be there as a reason why the plot happens and where the Rundown comes from
fiery kestrel
just died b1 with 11/12 keys nice
languid walrus
I guess I find it weird the prisoners are clothed when coming out of the HSUs.
deep birch
rip eon
fiery kestrel
2 hours nice
midnight spoke
Clothing shouldn't be an issue in a stasis unit, except they'd probably be wet when released
And they're going into a humid, wet place anyway
languid walrus
Everywhere else in other games or media I've seen stasis pods or cryogenic suspension chambers, the subjects inside of them are unclothed.
midnight spoke
Might be due to expected length of time spent in them?
languid walrus
And if an HSU is filled with water inside,
How do their headsets and weapons work?
pseudo prawn
And those are deployed immediately, no time to put on clothes so...
languid walrus
Or any of their equipment?
prisma snow
anyone have an answer to why when the game starts it says "inject" then plays a scream similar (or same) to the one when losing/dying in a mission ? it also sometimes says connection to cortex established but i forget where in the game you can find that
pseudo prawn
Cortex interface- connect someone's mind to someone else's body. I think the body screams due to the connection
theory ^
prisma snow
what if we aren't the characters that dive but someone else that is piloting them
coral nest
Yeah. I think I've heard multiple people mention that you actually are other people controlling cadavers
prisma snow
^ oop
pseudo prawn
yeah thats what I mean, we pilot the prisoners. Would be cool
prisma snow
makes sense to how we get transmissions of previous divers
pseudo prawn
and due to the multiple connections with "shell" bodies, our characters developed alter ego, and that alter ego is the Warden... dun dun dunnnnnn
prisma snow
like
...alarms!! [unintellegible, scream]
..everyone, follow the plan!
[unintellegible, gunfire]
i think these might be previous groups that died
pseudo prawn
hmmm interesting
coral nest
Mmhmm
atomic tree
@pseudo prawn That theory don't hold water, because we know that the players have certain eyecolors
pseudo prawn
do you actually get to see their faces?
coral nest
You can see a little bit but for the most part they are covered by masks I believe
pseudo prawn
maybe they havent perfected the connection yet and need to meet certain requirements for that- eye colour for instance
atomic tree
It is known trivia that different people have different eyecolors
prisma snow
my favorite is the d1
[Radio static]
[unintelligible]
...
...everyone is dead
..I can't....I won't make it
[gunfire}
atomic tree
Wow, that came out as non-statement
prisma snow
theory: he killed himself
atomic tree
Theory most likely confirmed
languid walrus
I feel like it's more of programming and not actual mind control.
prisma snow
it would make sense to why we dont just pop ourselves the second we get down there
languid walrus
I feel you still are the prisoners and control them freely, but are hard programmed to attempt to complete the objective.
pseudo prawn
then what other explanation would be for the cortex interface?
languid walrus
For example,
How in Robocop, Directive 4 prevents him from firing back or apprehending OCP officials.
prisma snow
^ got some meat to that theory
coral nest
Yeah. I think he holds the reigns on the actual people diving into the dead bodies we use to complete objectives
But idk if he's the Warden of those people or the facility/the incident
Keeping it under lock and key
atomic tree
TBH I think the cortex interface is what the name imply. A interface, the HUD on our screen.
pseudo prawn
or, here's a crazy theory- we are the Warden. We only connect to their minds so we can observe how they perform
coral nest
Yup. I think the masks and headsets they wear is the connection point for the hud and sounds they see and hear
languid walrus
I feel you're the Warden for the brief second you inject and override the recommendation.
And then you are the prisoner.
atomic tree
I don't think you are the Warden at any point or... I at least hope not, because that would be some cringe tier writing.
pseudo prawn
do we ever HEAR the warden?
we only hear our characters, which sound the same each time
prisma snow
no but in rundown when clicking on a objective/mission to do we hear an unintelligible garble which could be warden talking to us?
pseudo prawn
no clue
fallen pendant
I think sounds is very important to the lore
keen onyx
Just noticed my intro seems to be gradually changing. just before you inject the subject there is a creature in center left of the screen but to the center right there was what i interpret is a face
fallen pendant
And if we do hear like a very weird sound i can say it's a code
Well i hope
Because i dont really have the game yet
keen onyx
nani!
fallen pendant
yEp
keen onyx
did you play alpha
keen onyx
would strongly recommend
fallen pendant
I have to wait for christmas
keen onyx
fairs
fallen pendant
Like im sure GTFO have some like common clues
Like that would be very likely connected
at the end
keen onyx
well lore wise we "know" the complex is in Mexico and the company owning the complex prior to the incident was Japanese.
pseudo prawn
brains
keen onyx
we assume Japanese due to the forklift trucks in c level all having japanese writing
pseudo prawn
we have brains. Joking, in one trailer there were coordinates and when you check them its at the Chixculub crater
Santonian Industries seems to be the mining company
fallen pendant
i really wish i could play the game rn
The first trailer?
Like the gameplay ome?
keen onyx
way back in 2017 i think
pseudo prawn
gameplay trailer
keen onyx
oh
fallen pendant
Ok this is just my guess 1% that this would happen or less
keen onyx
thought there were co ords in the 2017 one when the guns looked like m4s
keen onyx
yep
pseudo prawn
because the virus/or whatever it has never seen daylight, they used to the dark < theory
pseudo prawn
not if it was trapped for 66 million years under a rock
fallen pendant
I mean it has seen a daylight once
midnight spoke
The virus wouldn't have a host on the meteor
pseudo prawn
yeah but it has mutated ever since
midnight spoke
So it wouldn't be active
fallen pendant
hM
pseudo prawn
if it is a virus
fallen pendant
Nah it's prob not a virus
midnight spoke
Parasite, virus or fungus
fallen pendant
Parasite would be more fitting
pseudo prawn
doubt parasite can survive that long without a host
keen onyx
It usually unsurprising for viruses and such to force the host to find darker areas and given that we have to turn on a generator im guessing the virus forced them to turn out the lits
midnight spoke
All wouldn't likely be active unless inside the actual meteor, excluding parasite
fallen pendant
I'll check for clues in GTFO thingy
keen onyx
given there are no spores it aint a fungus
midnight spoke
It says it's likely a parasite or fungus in the wiki
And we haven't seen spores yet
keen onyx
parasite would be most likely then
keen onyx
but most parasites cannot mutate the human body so vigourously
pseudo prawn
sure, they all carry but how did it survive that long without a host? unless its experiment and the mining company is only a cover up
midnight spoke
Or, it could release a chemical compound which alters the physiology of the body
Hmm, frozen meteor in space?
pseudo prawn
and what about earth?
midnight spoke
Hibernation
fallen pendant
Well i do know that someone came there
pseudo prawn
it hit at such high speed it would burn
midnight spoke
Well, a form of it
fallen pendant
Like before they knew about infections
midnight spoke
Bruh, it could be inside the meteorite
pseudo prawn
sure yes, but it needs to feed. And that happened 66 million years ago
midnight spoke
It could have been preserved
There's a chance
That's the thing we don't know enough
keen onyx
kerbe spot on
pseudo prawn
thats the only way, because even a tardigrade cant survive that long without food
midnight spoke
And it's scifi
fallen pendant
Like yes it is a parasite
But living for 66 million years without anything to feed on
Is kinda imposible not sure
pseudo prawn
yeah thats what Im thinking, unless Hermit is right and it was in some sort of stasis
midnight spoke
Wait wait wait
midnight spoke
It has to be from earth, they specified it wasn't alien
fallen pendant
They're monsters
Is what we call
Not aliens
And if it aliens they would be like smart
midnight spoke
Heh, not necessarily
Hive minds bro
All it takes is a very tiny chance for a planetary split or something xD
midnight spoke
Did you ever watch Alien?
fallen pendant
ah
midnight spoke
Xenomorphs are a hive mind
midnight spoke
Bees and ants are a good example then
fallen pendant
It's like they just focus on killing/eating?
midnight spoke
Pretty much sustaining what they need, if there's a threat to the hive, they swarm
Specific bees/ants have individual roles too
I.e. worker, warrior, Prince, queen etc
midnight spoke
That's what I'm trying to understand
They've been in that pit for a while by the looks of things
So maybe they don't survive in a conventional or normal way?
Or they consume the dead when they die
fallen pendant
Well sleepers dont feed
They just kill them
I think
I only watched gameplays sorry
midnight spoke
It's fine
fallen pendant
Unless they could live for like
midnight spoke
I'm just going on ideas I have based on gameplay
midnight spoke
Actually, maybe they have a slow cellular cycle
Less energy required
Mix in with high telomerase
They could last a long time
fallen pendant
And a regular bullet cant kill them
midnight spoke
That's a scientific possibility
fallen pendant
wait hold up
midnight spoke
Bullet would be due to the parasites
fallen pendant
It's because it said in the game story presentation
midnight spoke
Host can be damaged but you need to eliminate the core
fallen pendant
"character’s weapons are repurposed mining"
Something
So they did redesigned thingy
or im just reading it wrong
fresh salmon
About the sleepers eating or not eating thing, they only seem to get a heartbeat when your around u.u
fallen pendant
I think the heart is really not a heart
I mean it is a heart
But rather than just a normal heart its a like not a normal hear
heart
midnight spoke
I believe it's the parasites becoming more active due to stimulus
fallen pendant
stimulus?
fresh salmon
Noises, sounds, ext
fresh salmon
Visuals
fallen pendant
Like their hearts are very sensetive
When it beats
Just a thoery
thoer yaeasdsasgd
pseudo prawn
dunno, fungus is more plausible than parasites imo
fresh salmon
Well, there are creatures that can hibernate with extremely SLOWED down heart beats
And no food or water for an extremely long time as well
midnight spoke
Yes and no, fungus can grow in most situations, spreads easily in spores
We haven't seen spores yet
midnight spoke
inb4 the fog is spores
fresh salmon
I'm p sure they were workers though, with a massive infection that rotted and effected them from the inside out. Their skin is extremely sensitive y.y
fresh salmon
Yes
midnight spoke
Yes
pseudo prawn
Yes, thats what I think. Oh maybe its miners and thats why they are sensitive to light
midnight spoke
But at the end of missions you actually get an infection rating
Which is interesting
fallen pendant
o
pseudo prawn
a report for the warden...
fresh salmon
@pseudo prawn they are sensitive to different levels of light too. The high intensity seem to piss them off a hell of a lot quicker
fallen pendant
Because of the gas mask
pseudo prawn
Yes, so since there are different levels some miners had more exposure to light
fresh salmon
Also, the symbol on some of the doors is on the symbol of one of the prisoners outfits y.y the calm prisoners outfit
fallen pendant
Im really curious on where they find on dem prisoners
fresh salmon
@pseudo prawn well all of them react to the different levels of light the same way
fallen pendant
But whats really bothering me is the voice on the trailer
fallen pendant
uwu
pseudo prawn
now alright lets say the miners are the monsters but theres one thing that doesnt add up... the face hugger?
midnight spoke
Though, could be other prisoners
pseudo prawn
yes, some turned and some rejected the infection
soft prism
i think you getting an infection rating is tied with characters being in the hsu
maybe that's why they're kept in hydrostasis, to halt it
the question remains is whether there is a cure
midnight spoke
Makes sense
pseudo prawn
desperate for cure and freedom?
midnight spoke
Warden has something over them to control them
Imo
A bunch of scrappers that the warden conveniently has control over, must be back story
soft prism
maybe that's why it's them who's getting shoved down the complex
they're prisoners, they're expendable
and they just don't know that they're doing this for nothing?
fallen pendant
wait what does hsu mean
main island
The forklift Chinese character means "Crocodile"
soft prism
and in the lobby you can hear faint water sounds
fallen pendant
ah that wont make sense to me since i dont even have the game
midnight spoke
@soft prism maybe, but the interview mentioned them as scrappers, not prisoners
main island
wE aRe iN cHiNa
soft prism
scrappers, interesting
soft prism
don't have the game either (yet), but i played the beta
main island
When you spawn, you spawn at the top of the Complex. Had a spawn with sunny skys
soft prism
it was mentioned they're prisoners, though
fallen pendant
Yeah
soft prism
sunny skies?
pseudo prawn
scavengers, and its like the team is formed to be scavengers
fallen pendant
It's not sunny
soft prism
i thought it was always raining
fallen pendant
It's like at night
main island
Well I guess the rain didn't load
fallen pendant
I only checked some other gameplays
soft prism
lul
main island
It wasn't dark
soft prism
i really have to get the game
fallen pendant
yeah same lmao
main island
Great game
soft prism
def gotta buy it, though
support it
so they continue adding to this project
then maybe we'll finally see some more lore :>
fallen pendant
Tbh
Matpat solving this one
Might be like fnaf
But if matpat will be trying to solve this lore it'll be long
soft prism
email matpat to make #gtfo-lore die instantly
main island
In the complex, all the forklifts have the Chinese character of Crocodile
WHY IS IT CHINESE?
pseudo prawn
why is it crocodile
fallen pendant
Well
soft prism
the deepest lore
main island
ArE wE iN cHiNa?
fallen pendant
The complex is rich
main island
Rich? Chinese labor is cheap isn't it
pseudo prawn
no, different private companies want a piece of whatever was found down there
soft prism
santonian, strategic investors group, probably pulled resources from all over the world
pseudo prawn
or they are import forklift
main island
lmao xD
soft prism
yeah, there's lots of companies down there
main island
Why crocodile