But the dead people all died mid transformation
#gtfo-lore
cerulean forum
dense cypress
or they were doing some experiment and the HSUs are the test subjects the rest are the workers mutated into monsters as a side effect
cerulean forum
And if it’s a alien parasite or virus or whatever we wouldn’t be immune or well maybe idfk
floral plaza
Who says they were transforming? Maybe it's the infected feasting on their bodies.
floral plaza
Tissue stays living post mortem, maybe the infection was beginning to transform the living cells and died off when their were no more living cells to mutate.
cerulean forum
Then they weren’t immune
If they were immune it wouldn’t of affected them because the living cells have been able to deal with it and now they al produce antibodies if that were the case it wouldn’t do anything to them
floral plaza
True true. You got me.
fervent bear
Alien parasite would work with the irl town being demon tick lol
woven ledge
Not sure if I should put this in #gtfo-lore or #gtfo-related-questions so I apologize of this is the wrong place. 🤷
Do we know if sleepers, scouts, and the Big Fuckers™ are the only mobs? Does the density of basic sleepers change the lower (or higher) your go or are they contained to just one level? The message attached to level C1 says something about "not moving when their hearts beat". I wonder if that means sleepers are native to C1 or its just a beginner level and the devs wanted to let people know what not to do right off the start. I wonder as we go down (or up) the Big Fuckers™ and scouts become more prevalent and replace the sleepers almost entirely or we see new mobs.
lilac island
Pretty sure that's what'll happen. As we go deeper the mass or whatever created these beasts will get fiercer and more scarier.
And we are just fighting the "easy" ones
fervent bear
@woven ledge pretty sure there is at least 2 other npcs weve not seen
floral plaza
There could many more. What we've seen could be only the tip of the iceberg.
fervent bear
True
woven ledge
huh. Cool
lilac island
Oh there has to be more
Like
As someone said in another chat, the flashlights (mega one) could be used to spot dark ones
Like
Invisible
fervent bear
There are invisble ones and then the really long vampire tongue thing
lilac island
Oh?
floral plaza
https://youtu.be/ZmsEMJIv3H4 @lilac island
dense cypress
aslong as they never add a spider enemy that crawls on walls and stuff
dense cypress
bad Pidgun very bad
prime silo
They took away the character model's texures and increased the size? Its a neato enemy though. Hope they don't just charge randomly and you have to set them off.
dense cypress
@woven ledge we need to get a group specifically for downvoting spiders
floral plaza
lol
woven ledge
Agreed 😂
fervent bear
No spider we need an enemy like the creation from human centiped
woven ledge
oh god
heavy bone
we need special gadget that shows weakpoints like hearts or something
that would be badass
and tactical for example liek the big guys
i heard somwhere he heave 2 hearts
thats why hes so hard to kill
rustic sparrow
how to get the game help
last saffron
wrong channel, and you cant yet since alpha is over. youll have to wait until next testing phase
swift bramble
I just put two pieces of info together, it's probably been discovered before.
But we know the complex is probably at the chicxulub crater in mexico. That crater was formed around 65 million years ago in the cretaceous period.
The mining company involved in the complex is called Santonian mining industries 
and the santonian age is a span of time within the late cretaceous period.
I love findin this stuff out
heavy bone
oi
gtfo bot is in gtfo
last time he was in game there was alpha to play
will there be othe rone?
acoustic quest
In the santonian age its found the Palaeoaldrovanda witch an autor called the fossil an insect egg
A plant allied to carnivorous plants but also uknown identity
hollow condor
Do yall think its possible that the complex was testing those plants, animals that were fossilized, but were released and caused the stations destruction?
swift bramble
I think they were messing with something extraterrestrial or prehistoric
and somethin went horribly wrong
last saffron
a complex organism cant exactly recover from being a fossil, their insides however, can. as example a mosquito, while dead, may carry its latest meal
ofcourse said meal likely wont be alive either, but it provides untouched material due to being on the inside as opposed to being encased in amber
swift bramble
It's like jurassic park. The fossils werent dangerous, it was the human intervention and meddling that was their downfall. maybe its a similar situation
The big question is was santonian innocent in what they were doin or were they doin some sketchy stuff that needs to be covered up?
last saffron
it depends on the conditions, dna decay i recall isnt fully understood
acoustic quest
Maybe the thing that killed the dinosaurs affect the plants / fossils
( I forgot the name of that thing i just know the name in spanish and im insecured about the translation xd )
swift bramble
It is scifi so anything could be tweaked to suit the worldbuilding. I find everything super cool so far
and do you mean the chicxulub crater?
acoustic quest
I mean the " meteorito "
swift bramble
aah gotchya, the meteor hahah
last saffron
Meteor strikes dont really play a role in fossil formation
hollow condor
Could something have be recovered from fragments of the meteor?
acoustic quest
But can play a role about radiation or fragments ( i dont really know a lot about meteors but maybe theres things )
swift bramble
The meteor that hit in chicxulub contained a lot of iridium, which is radioactive
acoustic quest
And in scifi that thing can play a role about a uknown plant surviving the strike
hollow condor
My basic theory is, there was something biological recovered, either dormant or dead, and was revived. You know that tentacle that grabs you from the trailer? I think it could have been that, and converted people to these slaves/monsters
And @acoustic quest i agree
acoustic quest
Aaah you mean the Palaeoaldrovanda jsjsjs dead fossil
Uknown
And carnivorous
last saffron
i doubt something like that would survive being hit by a meteor. if heat didnt kill it, the sheer impact would
hollow condor
Maybe inside the meteor? @last saffron
last saffron
the forces apply both ways
swift bramble
I dont know if anyone played resident evil 4, but in that game they uncover these parasites that are like the t-virus that turn people into zombies. That theory kinda reminds me of that, it was super cool
last saffron
the impact and heat would affect it, unless something was at the very, very center of it
acoustic quest
Maybe the roots started grwoing
last saffron
judging by everything inside and outside enemies, its not plant based
swift bramble
Im feeling its a fungal thing
acoustic quest
I dont remember where i readed about the monsters veing funguls
last saffron
fungus' dont cause their hosts to mutate though
hollow condor
@last saffron Then possible radiation aftermath mutated animals that grew from the basic cells. A new evolution from its radiation
last saffron
they simply eat their hosts from inside and replace it with itself
swift bramble
ermm, alien fungus lol
last saffron
and radiation doesnt really work that way, radiation ruins cell, but it cant make the cell repurpose itself
acoustic quest
XD okey but that can explain why sometimes the host lives without head
And still SHOOTING THAT DAMN THING
hollow condor
Maybe Adapting to radiation, similar to darwins theory, the ones that survive evolve a specific way, so it indirectly caused it?
acoustic quest
But the thing its katoliksis that were slaves to evolve it needs a lotta time
swift bramble
if it has anything to do with radiation I'm excited either way. I studied radiation and the chernobyl disaster religiously. Stuff is fascinating
acoustic quest
How we can still be alive in the facility
last saffron
why would them adapting to radiation cause hosts to grow teeth? adaptation to solar radiation already exists in humans ' v'
acoustic quest
I love the radiation topic but im no studying that :(
Maybe not everyone sre fungus
swift bramble
I'm leaning towards it being fungal the most
hollow condor
Im refering to a singular entity, that spread itself into these humans. @last saffron
acoustic quest
The scout can be a fungal / plant thing with
hollow condor
That evolved over time
last saffron
ehh
hollow condor
Maybe it needs these hosts to hunt for it? Thats why the hosts have other abilities. But yall are right, thats one rabbit hole
last saffron
the thing about alien stuff is we cant really categorize them basing on earth stuff, which is an issue since we could potentially miss alien life because we try to base it on earth
swift bramble
The monsters are very humanoid so idk if theres any evolutionary stuff involved
acoustic quest
Evolution in a short-term time ?
last saffron
thats because theyre mutated humans ' v' you can both find corpses mid process and see stuff on them which would make no sense evolution wise
hollow condor
@swift bramble all the ones we have seen are, but that trailer tenticle thing might be different
last saffron
as example, strikers still have their face
hollow condor
^
last saffron
the most extreme example
evolution wise theyd just lose it. its not even vestigal like our third eyelid
hollow condor
Evolution only works long term. These humans relatively have not been around as long
acoustic quest
Well guys cy@ soon ima start cooking
The humans are prisoners without scape
swift bramble
Cya later duuude
hollow condor
Cyaaa
last saffron
its important to note that mutation doesnt necessarily mean evolution. mutations occur almost nonstop, in fact theres a very high chance plenty of your own cells are mutants
swift bramble
yes yes, its an evolution cant happen without mutation but mutation can happen without evolution kinda deal
Im just crossin my fingers for alien fungus hahah 🤞
hollow condor
@last saffron what do you think?
swift bramble
mmm, maybe youre right
too predictable
last saffron
i like to lean more on something prehistoric being exposed to stuff its unfamiliar with. its a relatively novel concept and fits well with real life due to permafrost melting and potentially releasing whatever is in it
as of what exactly it is itss
hard to say
a virus could be feasible, because they are still not quite understood
swift bramble
The time period matches up perfectly too
last saffron
bacteria sometime cross my mind, but it would technically just breed inside without altering you like a virus would
hollow condor
Maybe we should run some querying in the next release on research, virus, bacteria etc
last saffron
it could be several things at once
HIV paves way for everything else to wreak havoc, could be that scenario
(not saying its HIV, just an example)
swift bramble
the games supposed to have you go down 2,500 ft below the surface, which is the same depth that dates back 65 million years ago containing all the extraterrestrial debris and elements
last saffron
c1 which was close to last level was around 400 something meters below ground
last saffron
it was a specific number, i just remember it was 400+
swift bramble
So perhaps the deepest part of the complex reaches that 700 or 800 meter depth?
last saffron
closer to 500 too by like 40 meters
acoustic quest
Well mutation also csn explain the characters being infested idk whomst said that or where to find that info but also cna exolain something
swift bramble
Do you think the meteor created a sort of chasm?
or do you think all of the complex is santonian excavation
last saffron
it could uncover one, but not create on directly
hollow condor
How big was the meteor?
swift bramble
super big
acoustic quest
Yeah big
swift bramble
hmm?
acoustic quest
Its looked like something just pierce i. The middle
Where we go down it looks like ripped in half
last saffron
the way rubble is pointing itd have to go from below and upwards
acoustic quest
Yeah
And the machine that transport only left us on one side
What about the other , what happened there
last saffron
other parts of the place, if you look across you can see what remains of the building
before the lift turns you around
hollow condor
So there was a building in the centre?
acoustic quest
Yeah , its seems like it was connected and something ripped it in half
last saffron
by building i meant the complex
acoustic quest
Growing from below
last saffron
ripping in half wouldn produce more of a cracked shape, as opposed to round
late oasis
Something came up from there or the whole thing collapsed in itself
weak rampart
is this where the party's at?
last saffron
yes ludvig, hi
swift bramble
The partys goin onnnn 
acoustic quest
I wasnt mesning like exactly ripping half but yeah
last saffron
that explains why the metal is pointing up
if it caved in itd drag the piping down with it too
late oasis
Or it was the biggest chonker
acoustic quest
So it cant be exactly a meteor
swift bramble
Thats an interesting thing I didnt notice before
acoustic quest
Now if you excuse me my meal its burning jsjsjsjs
last saffron
[fire in sector C]
considering whatever pushed up took the complex partially with it, its not the meteor impact site, since itd be way waaaaaaaaaay bigger
and the sheer heat would sear/melt/evaporate anything that would somehow manage to survive being pummeled
acoustic quest
And now this can explain the fungul monsters
Kinda jk
By this thing we can say something about a fsilure experiment in the lowest floor
last saffron
not the original impact site i mean, with the prehistoric meteor
acoustic quest
Sometimes its impossible to work long-term in radiation zones
High-radiation zones
fair steppe
Is prehistoric meteor confirmed or just your working theory?
floral plaza
100% confirmed. keemstar agrees.
swift bramble
It's a very very solid theory still at this point
In the trailer way back there were coordinates that blipped on screen for a second. Those coords bring you right to chicxulub mexico, the impact zone of the meteor
That on top of the fact that 'santonian' is an age during the late cretaceous period, which is when that meteor impacted
fair steppe
Oh! Nice!!
fair steppe
So this could essentially be a combo research laboratory & mining operation
The alpha mission looked like both, and I wondered how they would be connected in a sensible fashion
swift bramble
It could be so many things. Maybe santonian mining industries had more nefarious intentions hidden behind the curtains
Maybe the government stepped in and tried to weaponize whatever they found
fair steppe
Rather, the alpha mission looks like a lab setting w/ high security.
The trailers look like a mining op
swift bramble
A mining operation gone horribly wrong
They were mining for diamonds when they found herobrine lol
fair steppe
I think weaponization could definitely be possible
swift bramble
I have seen some screenshots of something that looks like a laboratory setting
with monsters inside of big test tubes
fair steppe
I posted ones that showed heavy earth-moving equipment
acoustic quest
And the growing / explosive thing also can be a weaponized / chemical component of the gov
A thing that's why we're prisoners without scape
fair steppe
Im less inclined to believe the weaponization and government involvement now that I think about it
Why would we be involved? They could have an entire army of Navy Seals handle it as a black-op right?
acoustic quest
Cuz theyre more worthly in wars that some prisoners
Its like the militsr training ( idk if anywhere but in Mexico they train you to be in the front and die first so the militars can do their jobs without a lotta militar-casualties )
swift bramble
Either way, government involved or not, they defs don't want the public to know what's happening. Why else would they resort to prisoners? They're the perfect candidates for retrieving all the confidential data and files within the complex since they have no way of telling anybody what they've seen. That and theyre expendable
fair steppe
I dunno. Im more inclined to believe corporate involvement
I agree it's to keep it hush hush.
I just think the government has more skilled, efficient means to do that
We'd be highly equipped super soldiers
At least in US matters. Lol. If all we need 5 men with pistols,we'll send a tank and an Apache. Just to make sure. Lmao
acoustic quest
The question here its
The gov know exactly whats in the complex
They risk the life of some highly trained soldiers to something that they dont know if its still there
?
fair steppe
Yes. At least most modern countries
swift bramble
Yeah the best guys the warden has are these ragtag scaredy pants boys crouchin in the dark with long hammers
fair steppe
Your highly trained soldiers are going to ensure flawless execution.
Sending in untrained hobos just increases the body count
acoustic quest
But at least there are a lotta prisoners the facility can still test more
And what if thats what they want
Remember the post ssying , more tests
swift bramble
Unless they go down there and all die, since they dont know how to deal with shroomy alien monster people
fair steppe
Yeah. I think a corporation would be more apt to take that route
Or a terrorist organization
The Warden could be since sort of nongovernmental paramilitary entity?
swift bramble
Why are they retrieving things and what are they retrieving?
data and stuff that they cant go get themselves
acoustic quest
Some human gen
acoustic quest
We dont know a lotta about the outside or i cant remember
fair steppe
Right. That would be really important for context lol
acoustic quest
i dont think so
swift bramble
My guess is its in the off the coast similar to the drill site in chicxulub
Maybe a long hollow cylinder going down into the complex.
We know its daytime and that its raining from the alpha at least
fair steppe
Sure it could. Is this post apocalyptic and the secrets down there hold the key to survival?
swift bramble
GTFO is about a team of four people trapped in an underground Complex, kept there against their will, forced down into the depths to carry out different objectives for this unknown entity called the Warden. The underground Complex has been abandoned for many years and it's been overrun by flesh-eating, grotesque monsters, and you want to get out of there.
Thats the main description from the wiki
The 4 characters names are Hackett, Bishop, Woods and Dauda
fair steppe
Was this maybe a research lab for gene alteration (medical) and there are crazy secrets there. Etc..
fair steppe
Another thing - might not be lore per se - but as the devs have apparently confirmed that GTFO doesn't have the obvious messaging, any thoughts onwhat it might actually be?
patent depot
i totaly doubt any kind of government involvment in this situation as we see it
i think we are forced to go down to rdetrive resources to escape this hell hole
and the warden (person or some kind of ai) knows what we need, where to find it and how
pilot, rocket fuel, energy cells, some engine parts, maybe mechanic to fix the machine and at the end before leaving the place set up a mini nuclear bomb in the heart of the hive to destroy infection and all of the evidence of it
glossy cargo
For what reason do you completely rule out any government activity?
And how do you know that were aren't being sent down into The Complex for something else, like the recovery of a weapon or a cure for something?
patent depot
because as someone suggested before, gov wouldnt care a tiny bit about soldiers life as they dont for the prisoners, gov most likley would bomb the place or sent super soldiers down there to eradicate the enemies
thats why i think we are on our own with slight help of the warden
glossy cargo
What if the government is really small and has limited resources?
patent depot
limited resources?
well we can also ask the other way
where are the others from this mine company ?
i believe its not the only mine and research facility of that kind in the world
glossy cargo
I'm just saying that the assumption that it isn't a government due to the fact that they "don't care about a couple of soldiers" seems like a really loose idea
patent depot
so i also assume that this complex may be on diffirent planet than earth
patent depot
if its on a diffirent planet or maybe a some moon, that would explain why no other help is coming
glossy cargo
So you think that the only reason that there isn't any help coming is because they're on another planet?
glossy cargo
Fair enough 
glossy cargo
I was thinking about you thinking about the warden
fair steppe
Even a tiny government has generally more resources than the largest of corporations
acoustic quest
uuuh~~
patent depot
the thing we dont know anything about the warden beside its a bot over here that may suggest it is AI
the thing is*
acoustic quest
yeah but it even say , more test like , why , some retrieve the DNA what else he wants
fair steppe
And if it was THAT tiny of a government, the tiny government would be kindly kicked in the dick-region by a bigger government who wanted the resources for themselves
'cause 'Murica
acoustic quest
also if theres a gov why let a machine work alone without a visualization about what he wants
fair steppe
Not really imo
I mean, other than just these creatures existing (like ant other realistic creature)... is there anything that screams "totally far fetched technology"?
vagrant forum
SCP
fair steppe
...huh?
acoustic quest
the sticky thing ("i forget the name cuz i suc ")
fair steppe
Cement foam?
acoustic quest
yeah
patent depot
hydrostasis unit?
acoustic quest
ill wait for the beta to have more info from anywhere , there was some papers in the alpha that i couldnt read cuz teammates
really? uuuh lemme chec
patent depot
and the cortex os or whatever it is
fair steppe
Just missing sufficient enough execution to be used for riot control. Versus something like tear gas
acoustic quest
damn , spiderman would be proud
fair steppe
Holding something in stasis in not that far fetched either. Think "medically induced coma on steroids" lol
patent depot
well explain me the cortex then 😛
acoustic quest
the terminals ?
fair steppe
Google "Pharmacological Manipulation of Cortical Inhibition in the Dorsolateral Prefrontal Cortex"
patent depot
why after leaving hydrostasis unit
fair steppe
Lol
fair steppe
Injecting a pharmaceutical concoction to manipulate the prefrontal cortex?
patent depot
is it in our minds or just in front of eyes coz of some "google glassess" ?
fair steppe
Oh. You mean like bringing back repressed memory?
Hypnotists' been doing that for centuries lol
patent depot
i mean the shit after the game starts
fair steppe
I only watched the intro one time unfortunately :-(
patent depot
lol ? have you played the alpha? you try to deny my questions instead of answer them like you had no idea what im wondering about
fair steppe
Yep. But I didn't watch the intro over and over
acoustic quest
same
fair steppe
Hell, I'm part of the 1.25% lmao
unique spoke
warden is very obviously a synthorganic hivemind smh
swift bramble
Thats my bet, guessin theyre a collective of sorts
unique spoke
given the node based imagery and injection
im thinking that the characters are controlled by being part of the warden
so if they die they just reload their consciousness into new clone bodies
trapped in a living hell of sorts
swift bramble
Thats an interesting theory tbh
might make sense since you load in waking up and breathing heavy
patent depot
how about my theory of setting it on another planet/moon?
devs said they were inspired by the 1st Alien movie, (actors there were geologists and miners for terraforming and excavating rare minerals)
its logic for me why no help is coming to the complex where obviously bilions of dolars were put and noone would simply forsake it coz' of some "infection"
Ofcourse some say that world is after some apocalypse and we may be the last people on earth. Trying to rescue more people to restart civilisation, but then i think prisoners wouldnt be forced to go down but volunteer to get some chicks ro copulate with.
cobalt valley
crew on nostromo was geologist and miners?
patent depot
maybe not so specific as ive said it but kind of
cobalt valley
there were freight ship crew 😛
patent depot
well those ships needed 2 pilots, cyborg to operate stuff while others sleep, and others had to have some functions aswell
cobalt valley
any theory is good
patent depot
i dont like the theory of cloning prisoners and giving them memories of previous ones via cortex os
cobalt valley
well you waking upo in ghydrostasis chamber
that means either freezed or used like a duracell battery in matrix 😄
patent depot
if the warden has a machine for cloning people why does he send only 4 people? why not 20 or 60 ? or even more ? they are expendable anyway
cobalt valley
hydrostasis*
patent depot
hydro= water and stasis= sleep/slumber
cobalt valley
warden report said 300,000 were send
cobalt valley
it might be just stats, but it might be a clue
patent depot
and the text "always diffirent people, but somehow i recognize them"
cobalt valley
maybe former inmates?
patent depot
so people may be diffirent but the idea of "replacing memories from 1 to another" got more sense
the warden is super ai, maybe he calculated the probability of success is highest with 4 people team :F
or it doesnt know yet and has to learn as AI is learning today, increasing chance of success by remembering everything
cobalt valley
idea of different planet is allright
australia was once a prison
maybe whole new planet is too
cobalt valley
might be
patent depot
some is even named Europa coz' its similiar to the earth
patent depot
the biggest clue for ai concept we have here
at top right corner
hes a bot giving statistics and conclusions from it
cobalt valley
would be cool feature if connected this way
patent depot
well we take all we know from any source
narrator from trailer
here discord
game itself ofcourse
cobalt valley
i hope his gonna make annoucements on events like black fridays too 😉
:D:D
narrator from trailer
patent depot
i just hope best devs of our planet read our thoughts on the game sometimes 😉
patent depot
oh damn, havent thought about it this way
cobalt valley
and those are his thoughts
cerulean forum
@patent depot by your theory did u mean the game being based in space/ on a dif planet?
patent depot
they are some mutations of fungal humanoids with animal like instincts, very teritorial and aggresive
dif planet or some moon
cerulean forum
well....
sorry to burst ur bubble but its not
its based in mexico
where a meteor landed long long ago
and is now a minning facility
cobalt valley
any proof?
cerulean forum
the trailer
its been confirmed they showed long and LAT locations
follow them
it leads u there
check the pinned Messages
in this chat
they dont seem to be wasting their time they are making sure for subtle things that mean something more
so every small detail we see should mean something
mainly in trailers/interviews
cobalt valley
makes me like this game even more :D:D
heavy bone
@cerulean forum what pinups where
kindred sedge
Bruh it's clearly the falklands why else did the British want it captured. It's because of a special mineral that has radiation leaking from it and it mutated the people with plot magic boooom my very own theory
last saffron
heavy bone
^
xD
same reaction
im sure the facility was mining facility at first but then when they discovered something they made a facility out of that mining station
explains old mining aquipment etc
lilac island
trail copper
GTFO is just the typical end result of a dwarf fortress run
alpine lantern
Oh how I've missed this lore Channel. D:
languid walrus
Would they ever add lore bits you can find in the game,
Such as journals, notes, documents, and such to compliment the environmental storytelling?
heavy bone
i would like more like dialogues between characters when theres quiet moments
and some kind of like hidden logs in terminal or something
for example u need for example key from a scientist to have clearance and whe nu open door theres like
: welcome,doctor ------
and u can see the stuff thats there etc
and find out by urself
would be a lot om ore satysfying
or like hidden logs of that doctors that are scattered around taht are rare
and like half destroyed so u hear like a astatic most of the time
languid walrus
@heavy bone I feel that would slow the game down.
If you got one guy reading stuff off of terminals while the other three are waiting for him to be done.
heavy bone
or collectibles @languid walrus that u can hear out in menu or read
lilac island
I believe they will be adding in lore bytes yes
something to make the Solo-Stealth runs more entertaining 😄
compact sinew
I would 100% be that guy slowing down the rest of the team to read all the lore
I would be shot by my team because they would all get sick of me stopping at every terminal to read everything
unique briar
@compact sinew just take pics with ur phone and read later
swift bramble
Yea it matters to me too, love findin all that stuff. The game has a slow enough pace to stop for a sec to see somethin
white current
acoustic quest
lore always matter bois
compact sinew
There is a reason I never stream my first run through of games like skyrim or fallout
I like finding all the little hidden lore bits
acoustic quest
thats why in my first run i was in the pc for almost half and hour trying to understand how it works and finding info
the run ( that i falied) was almost 2 hours xD
loud pawn
They could just add bits that you pick up for later. A menu that you can utilize to access all previously acquired lore logs & what have you wouldn't be a reach. 😛
glad kettle
Lol I did the same thing my first run Dust
lilac island
Honestly what if you could listen to and read all of your found lore from the main menu?
Sort of like an encyclopedia of found information that you slowly build up
alpine lantern
Long as it wasn't accessible until after you've found it I'd like that. :)
I don't enjoy being able to see the bits n bobs of lore before I've actually found them or even know they exist. xD
I think it would be amusing if lore-bits were either something that had to be located via terminal commands (or physical luck/searching), or perhaps even a small hacking mini-game of sorts. With minimum chances to acquire it before it's lost for that run.
acoustic quest
and not letting you know how many lore pieces are out there so its always a mystery 😉
rustic root
We can all agree that this game is somewhat based of dead space
Because of the experiment
And everyone going insane
acoustic quest
This game can be based on a lotta games but theres a game called "negative atmosphere" that gamr its based on dead space af
last saffron
well, necromorphs arent really a result of an experiment, ubermorph being an exception.
glossy cargo
If i'm not mistaken, the developers were inspired by the game Alien Isolation.
patent depot
oh yea, "negative atmosphere" actually looksl like remastered clone of "dead space", so much in common
hexed lake
Just screenshot anything you find with F12 lol
cobalt valley
Not the first Alien movie from 1979? Like everybody else typed here?
acoustic quest
maybe both
patent depot
in the game-dev-commentary at youtube one of the devs say that inspiration for creating levels and atmosphere in gtfo was ridleys scoot "Alien" (the 1st movie)
acoustic quest
also yeah like the missing brother of dead space but sweating and swearing
cobalt valley
nice advertisement, sorry but I wont click it
cerulean forum
@patent depot shld probs take that over to #gtfo-media
cobalt valley
concerned citizen showed up
patent depot
@cerulean forum ok i will, thanks and then ill delete it from here
cerulean forum
Well regardless its not like u will get banned or whatever u will just get told to move it
patent depot
i moved it anyway, im not advertising 🙂
blazing carbon
I think of it like Aliens meets Alien 3. you have a forgotten complex that has important data but no one knows the exact layout of it. The people being hijacked are prisoners that have been reinstated to be used in this suicide mission and pretty much they're all expendable.
acoustic quest
Hey , that sounds pretty reasonable
languid walrus
I feel the HSU itself looks underwhelming.
I imagined the HSUs to look like actual people floating in stasis pods,
But right now they just look like enlarged grenades.
acoustic quest
Some pretty enlarged grenades
languid walrus
And it sucks there aren’t really any animations for the tasks you are doing.
Such as swiping the keycards,
Or even an animation for collecting the sample.
signal urchin
its funny with the meleew
you stand still
then 3s later
head of the bois just goes flying
acoustic quest
Ans the bois probs gonna be " ima gonna end this man whole career"
glad kettle
Is there any reason for us to believe HSU's contain people? I would argue it's just a sample container since it would appear you're grabbing one sample before dipping back to the extraction point. Otherwise wouldn't somebody have to carry the body/HSU itself?
Which would actually be pretty intense if you had to drag a body all the way back at a walking speed while your teammates try and fend off the horde
acoustic quest
Well i thi k it could contain a body cuz if we need a lotta samples the body could produce more but if just a sample theres hardly any way to oroduce more if needed
dense saffron
@glad kettle if you used the query command on an hsu it returns a bunch of info about a person including name, gender and some other stuff I can recall
glad kettle
O yeah I guess it did, didn't it
dense saffron
So I feel it's safe to assume theres a person inside
glad kettle
see i'm already forgetting the details after a week of no playing 😦
Also, @acoustic quest that is a totally valid point
acoustic quest
@dense saffron that also can be without a whole body, just a sample
And thanks @glad kettle im working hard here to trying to figure lore without the game to have a role uwu
glad kettle
I got my mod role so now I'm just sittin back with my cool purple 😛
Lore's never been my strong suit, but the lore for this game has me particularly interested. Just waiting for people with better investigative skills to do the leg work 😄
acoustic quest
Hahahahah thats a cool purple tbh
Ive been a lore guys but sometimes ive came later to share the info ive found
U'll see me on every mission with a duration of 5 hours
glad kettle
At least someone is doing it lmao
are you pulling everything you've found into some central place or just talking about it here so far?
acoustic quest
Kinda both if theres a solid theory or something that its lore i save it on a draw app and if its just theory i talked it here
full iris
I’m assuming that the HSU’s contain people. ‘Hydrostasis’ would imply that they are alive, just in some form of stasis. The core samples we are collecting on expeditions are taking samples for some sort of DNA experiment the Warden (or whoever is employing it) is doing. We’re just collecting a vial/container of blood, bone marrow or other material from the individual in the HSU.
shut mountain
Also let's not forget that we, the players are waking up in a HSU unit
glad kettle
DUN DUN DUN
there's gotta be some explanation as to why our 4 pods aren't down in the complex like the ones we're after then
WE NEED LORE
glossy cargo
I think that you retrieve samples of people (or just people) to bring back to the surface, then they're duplicated (kind of like how The Matrix grew humans) and then controlled through a neural link and sent down into The Complex to do the bidding of The Warden.
Of course there are a lot of wholes and "What ifs" but I could see it happening, guess we'll just have to wait and see though 
languid walrus
Is there any point in the opening cutscene or intro screen where you can see your character’s HSU number?
glad kettle
If at all, it'd probably be in the black intro screen when the connection is being established
before the camera shows you in control of the character locked in the HSU I'd assume
languid walrus
Does it say what number it is?
And if so, does that number match any of the HSUs within the complex?
glad kettle
I'm not sure, I don't remember seeing one, but I was never specifically looking for one
I'd certainly be curious to see if there's any correlation though
acoustic quest
Good question lemme check on my videos if there's our hsu and the hsu terminal
glad kettle
smart, someone should have a recording of that opening
acoustic quest
Yeah
But I'm sure that i don't have footage fishing the users of every hsu
Finding*
glad kettle
Yeah I that's no surprise lmao
I would assume that there's not much in the alpha gameplay we could pull out
I wouldn't even be surprised if certain aspects were hidden away through the alpha to keep the lore in check until full release
languid walrus
Would enemies get harder the deeper you go into the complex or when playing expeditions that are deeper down?
acoustic quest
I think someone says that there's no lore the alpha
Yeah
The alpha was medium difficulty
Mission medium*
There gonna be harder missions i think
glossy cargo
I have this image. I'm pretty sure this is all the information you get about your playable character.
languid walrus
Is that 789 number the HSU?
glad kettle
nah doubtful
I would assume the above matches but they have 2 categories and 4 numbers
so that wouldn't make sense
lilac island
If I recall, there are more than 1 HSU in the Complex but we only need to find 1 specific HSU
Maybe it's related?
Though, I do wonder why our characters are "not suited for redeployment". Is that based on biology-wise, or psychology-wise? 
glossy cargo
Yeah, I don't have an image of it but there were probably at least 35 HSU units.
Some of them weren't working or had some other issues.
If you put the command "list_hsu" then it would give you all of them on the floor.
acoustic quest
Dudes thementsl eval uknown uuuuh
languid walrus
What is Cortex Interface Injector?
Is it the protocol to wake the prisoner from the stasis pod?
glossy cargo
We don't know.
acoustic quest
its like a sistem on our nervious system in the brain ( i know the description but in spanish )
maybe to know the missions and objetives we inject a interface in our cortex
that explain all the data we see in screen
languid walrus
Is it just a design choice instead of a lore element?
acoustic quest
who knows but that can explain the cortex injector
languid walrus
I would hope I actually am controlling the person I am playing as rather than through a computer or AI.
glossy cargo
Probably both.
acoustic quest
we are persons cuz we can actually see each other
languid walrus
I’m assuming The Warden is an AI.
glossy cargo
Could be.
languid walrus
Would you ever confront or find out the true identity of The Warden?
acoustic quest
only the devs know
languid walrus
Perhaps if the hardest expedition is completed.
acoustic quest
but that could be cool and not-cool depending the way you put it
a cool history to show the warden as someone important ( mora than he already is ) or just arandom not-cool data
glossy cargo
You are suppose to find out about characters story through a responsive dialogue system. Meaning that if you take some specific action a character might comment about it, revealing something about themselves or another scavenger/subject. So I don't think it's going to be like a "you complete the game once you know everything immediately deal."
languid walrus
Would this turn into an Amnesia The Dark Descent scenario where everything you’re doing will eventually fulfill The Warden’s grand purpose?
lilac island
@glossy cargo So kinda like Left 4 Dead 2, where the details are in the dialogue and environment
glossy cargo
We don't know Shawn lol
This is all speculation, well, most of it.
Precisely @lilac island
Also, did you just become a moderator or am I trippin'
acoustic quest
uuuuh nice i would love tho see the l4f2 lore style
lilac island
@glossy cargo I've decided to switch over from the forum mod team to the Discord mod team as I feel I can help more here.
glossy cargo
acoustic quest
niceee uwu
languid walrus
What about Outlast’s lore style with the collectable documents, and journals that update based on progress and things you record?
glossy cargo
It's possible they might add physical documents, it really is just up to them on how they want to present the lore.
I mean, lore might not ever really be a big concern for them soooooooooo
languid walrus
The Forest had a collectable video recorder that you could find tapes for and when used with it, it would show you the videos.
acoustic quest
btw someone ever looked at the new mod contact photo ?
glossy cargo
Looks the same, except red.
acoustic quest
Well in the interview that i finally read theres this thing " Logbook entries that reveal backstory and lore will be found in the terminals "
dense wyvern
So read up.
Personally I think the cortex link is actually done in a similar manner to how the movie "gamer" did it. Basically you "link" into the mind of one of the sleeping prisoners so you can control them down in the mines and remove any chance of them going rogue.
glad kettle
that is exactly how I figured it's working
dense wyvern
It does make it really interesting because it then leads to even more questions
Perhaps there could even be a mission start where you end up popping out of one of the pods already down in the facility. If so then it does add credibility to that concept
swift bramble
We do know it's the same 4 characters each time, but maybe the pods are cloning chambers or somethin? 
acoustic quest
that could explain all the players the warden talked about
swift bramble
Do you mean in the tweet?
lilac island
And the cortex injection might be just injecting necessary memories and information into their minds? 🤔
acoustic quest
i think the cortex injection its just something to see those data text in screen ingame about objectives
and yeah
dense wyvern
Hmm interesting take. That would make sense actually
languid walrus
What if the cortex injection is used to force the prisoners to focus on their mission?
Like as if they were androids programmed to focus on one thing and one thing only?
alpine lantern
I'm still a firm believer that the injection is some sort of nano-tech that is what we players see as the 'HUD'/UI/Minimap, etc. |3
languid walrus
I feel the injection is a HUD thing, or if it’s something else,
You are still playing as the character you are, not the AI.
alpine lantern
Cause we already have IRL technology at the nano-screen level, in which you can overlay someones' iris with a small film and allow them to scroll through and even select emoji's to show on their eyes. ._.
Though I think that project was eventually scrapped, haven't heard much news of it for a while now. xD
languid walrus
Then again, my theory is not proven yet because there is nothing to do but the mission.
alpine lantern
BUT.... I will also say the 'memory' route is totally plausible... For all we know, we're just a bunch of brains stuck in some tube or HSU. An the injections are forcing us to replay/relive the memories of whatever happened to us, etc-etc. Who knows. |3
languid walrus
I feel like the injection is somewhat used as a way to strictly encourage you to focus on the mission.
When it says cortex, what is it referring to?
The cerebral cortex?
The neonatal cortex?
alpine lantern
I would assume Cerebral, personally.
languid walrus
Memory isn’t even in the cortex I don’t think.
The hippocampus, responsible for memory and learning, is in the limbic system.
alpine lantern
I was of the understanding that the cortex was a catch-all for pretty much everything in the brain due to all the nerves joining/integrating there. But I'm most certainly not in the medical field, I only know what bits I remember from anatomy classes and random wiki searches. |3
languid walrus
More importantly what’s a part of the cortex is the basal ganglia,
The part responsible for movement, cognition, and emotion.
alpine lantern
If we really want to open up what the injection is doing 'brain-wise' I think I'll toss this bomb-shell into the mix though.
"...The cerebral cortex is the largest site of neural integration in the central nervous system.[2] It plays a key role in attention, perception, awareness, thought, memory, language, and consciousness."
(That bold was intense. xD)
For me, there's too many possible factors to settle on without more info, imo.
languid walrus
I just feel when it’s doing something as complex as cortex injection, it must be for something more than health, vitals, and status monitoring.
alpine lantern
Sometimes simplicity is key though. Not everything has to be super advanced or have ulterior motives. :)
languid walrus
I wish the HSUs weren’t just huge grenades.
glossy cargo
I'm assuming that you just take a sample, as the first image I posted says "TAKE DNA CORE SAMPLE"
glossy cargo
Unless it means you're like Brain Shaw
And the warden just expects you to carry that rock back to extraction
Idk lmao
languid walrus
Do you just open something up and inject a syringe to fill it with a sample?
languid walrus
I imagine when they say sample,
It’d be a blood sample.
Or perhaps a skin sample.
glossy cargo
DNA is DNA
languid walrus
I know those home DNA kits involve saliva as a collection method.
glossy cargo
A humans DNA is found in nearly everything found on or in their body
I imagine the developers haven't gotten to specific on how the DNA is collected since;
- They don't have a dedicated animator and
- They're busy making the actual game
languid walrus
So no part of the body gives more accurate results than anywhere else on the body?
glossy cargo
Well, i'm not versed in that too well but i'd assume things like blood would give more accurate/easily obtainable results compared to urine, hair, saliva and so on.
languid walrus
What if they use one of those shrink things that you throw on the HSU and it shrinks down to a small enough size to put in your pocket.
glossy cargo
Then i'd immediately proceed to go into cardiac arrest
Do you like lore in generally Matthias?
glossy cargo
Did you play a game called Hunt: Showdown?
languid walrus
No.
glossy cargo
Oh ok, your name just seemed familiar.
glossy cargo
Now that's juicy, we never knew for sure if you were coming out of a HSU unit but now we do!
acoustic quest
Hell yeah ill see the video when i finish this proyect
shut mountain
I mean, if you looked down during the alpha in this moment, you would have seen that exact thing too.
glossy cargo
Can you rephrase that @shut mountain ?
languid walrus
@glossy cargo he means if you look down during the opening cutscene,
That same message you see there has always been there.
languid walrus
And if you look at the HSUs in game,
You can see they look almost identical to the one you came out of.
pseudo salmon
Dab
rustic solar
@glossy cargo evo i thought the same exact thing when i watched that
austere flicker
Cortex injection does seem to be some kind of control unit put into the people, and lends us the HUD and everything else.
Whether or not we're brains in tanks controlling expendable bodies sent in is up to the devs honestly.
I mean, note the scream when you create the cortex injection AND When you die
lethal axle
I like the idea that you have one single chance to get the objective to impress the warden and get out but your idea probably flows better with gameplay
zealous seal
I really dont think we are brains controlling bodies. in the "report" it tells you how many prisoners were sent and how many were successful, etc....that kinda leads you to believe they are more lab rat-ish than simulation based
dense saffron
I'm guessing that it's some sort of remote monitoring
vagrant spoke
You start in stasis being woken up by the cortex injection from when you load the game up I believe. The party screen where you can see the party members brain activity, weapons, tools and vitals looks like a monitor almost that is keeping track of their brain activity. I think that for that short time in the party screen we are watching from the wardens perspective. Cortex injection is probably nanites which directly link into the subjects brain and sends the data to the wardens so they can monitor the progress of the prisoners.
That’s just a theory, but I think it’s all a giant test. The warden is up to something big I think, why else would they need DNA from the HSU’s they left abandoned. What if the sleepers and stuff are humans who were experiments but obviously were failures and left to rot away in the abandoned facility. The 4 prisoners we play are exceptions, that’s why the warden drops them consistently to collect random objectives. They are testing the limits of the 4 prisoners who probably were injected with the same virus that mutated the previous prisoners and turned them into the sleepers.
To sum it up. The sleepers are former human prisoners who were injected with the same cortext virus however were not strong enough and succumbed to it causing them to mutate into sleepers. The reason why in the beginning we see vitals and stuff on the party screen because the warden is monitoring them, observing how they handle themselves in stressful conditions with limited resources.
That’s just my take after playing both alphas and starting at that party screen quite a lot XD
Staring
last saffron
according to documentary the complex has been abandoned for a long time, and yes, sleepers are humans
you can find corpses mid change strewn about
or even body parts still trying to change
last saffron
its not stated if warden has been active all the time its been abandoned, just that he/she/themm/ai/mother drone keesp the 4 main chars trapped in it
vagrant spoke
Really big and we are the unlucky test subjects
last saffron
the starting stats may also be just placeholders since every start up the stats are different, well have to see ' v'
vagrant spoke
I think the warden isn’t just one person. The warden is probably a small but powerful organisation probably trying to do good in the world but got messed up along the way
The warden could just be the main big guy in charge of dishing out the objectives and stress testing the experiments in the facility
Prisoners definitely got the same dose of whatever caused the mutation of the previous prisoners and such. The warden probably either brought the abandoned facility or rediscovered it and decided it be the perfect safe place to test out their experiments
All just one big ass stress test of whatever strain of mutation they cooked up
last saffron
i like to think its a combination of things rather than a single entity really. i also hope its not a spooky engineered virus on account of being done to death and back
vagrant spoke
That’s basically what I said? And personally I don’t think it was supposed to happen the way it did. They probably wanted to test some sort of healing strain that could cure cancer or something but it didn’t work obviously and they accidentally discovered the mutation strain that caused the sleepers.
last saffron
i meant like, zero tampering
vagrant spoke
Ah
last saffron
im not opposed to it, it just bores me as a concept
vagrant spoke
Same cause it’s cliche
Sounds like something the umbrella corporation would make tbh
But I do like the whole stress testing theory of the virus on the 4 prisoners under the guise of collecting DNA samples
last saffron
the less we know, the better, kinda like The Thing
its terrifying not because body horror but also because they had absolutely no clue what it was at first
opaque pond
Don't give me documents laying out how the pathogen that causes the change came about. Give me documents that show the absolute terror and unknown dread that claimed people's minds as they tried and failed to figure it out.
The key to world building is not building the world and then dropping a wiki article on the reader, it's knowing how the world works yourself and then making the reader feel that it is real
umbral warren
any summery for the lol guys?
acoustic quest
A guy/machine drop us from tilted towers to gather more adn for a obscure but inexplained thing
The monster are maybe a creation of a fsilure experiment with the dna the fscility its called about the end of the dinosaurs age
Something under the facility or the lowest ground grow or exploted to leave a huge hole
We are part of incubators maybe some clones injected with a menu to know missions and information
I dont have all the info with me of what they all talked from the beginning but this is what i taker noted
austere flicker
@umbral warren
The warden is this guy.
That's all we've got so far.
||for reals i'm still hoping the creatures are a result of some kind of alien artifact that got out because that's a lot more interesting than secret government project in a facility that went awry, because 1. They'd have documentation on the research and what was used, so there's less of this "omg what is it" and 2. The changes in physiology seem far too extreme for anything man made, downright biological subversion of the human body that a conventional earth disease or bioweapon simply cannot do.||
opaque pond
So... Dead Space
austere flicker
Is that really a bad thing?
@opaque pond
last saffron
eh, aliens are cool and all but id rather have it from earth
because Team Earth and because spooky
lilac island
I mean ... does it even have to be an artifact?
that is a littl *too dead space imho
better if it was some sort of Creature, or Bacteria, or Virus that was 'awakened' due to drilling in the Meteor Site
(effectively alien, but released via drilling)
opaque pond
Mutation caused by extra-dimensional ruptures resulting from overly-enthusiastic physics experimentation
(Legitimately any idea we think of has most likely been done in some form by a high profile creator)
vagrant spoke
I’m still sticking with my whole stress testing theory. At the same time I’m not in a rush to figure it out either because it’s a lot more fun being thrown into the unknown without any idea of what your going against
opaque pond
I'd prefer it if they never answer it
weak rampart
👀
formal thunder
lilac island
wtf
austere flicker
Again, the physiology seems far too advanced to be anything man made. It transforms people into entirely different organisms. A man made virus, even in the future, can't do that.
I'm also down for them never fully explaining it, or giving conflicting theories.
With all of the effort and work that goes into framing these things as unknown, unpredictable and terrifying, I see it wasted on explaining it as ||Left 4 dead, but underground.||
Man-made viruses are kinda over-played in media at this point
opaque pond
Well the creatures are obviously not full hivemind, or there'd be no stealth. But perhaps a communal parasitic creature
And a parasite similar to a Cymothoa exigua (tongue-eating louse). This parasite attaches itself to a fish's tongue and severs the blood vessels to it, causing it to die and fall off. The parasite then becomes the new tongue, where it steals nutrients from the fish
In this case, the parasite lives inside the human and slowly reworks their body
Perhaps brawlers and shooters are male and female varieties
glossy cargo
This is a video game, things will not align with the real world because this isn't a real world simulator.
opaque pond
Shit, you figured me out. I was just trying to avoid talking about my theory that the sleepers are the result of a massive colony of fetish lifestylists, most of whom have a massive vore fetish. Unfortunately the colony was also headed by a group of unreasonably enthusiastic orthodontists.
loud pawn
austere flicker
@glossy cargo Yeah but human viruses are boring in video games.
glossy cargo
Ok?
cerulean forum
@austere flicker we dont know if the warden is a guy cus he/it/she/alien bitch idfk who else is only refered to as an entity or a group of people and doubtful its a artifiact due to there being corpses of people half turning into those creatures so likely one of the previously brung up comments as a virus/parasite/fungal infection or even a alien parasite within the meteor ORRRr an alien Biowep that infects us on its misison to even dominate the planet
who cares if its just a virus its a game doesnt mean the game will be any less fun
wheat trail
But the whole virus thing is a bit Cliche.
I'd prefer if it was just huge amounts of radiation, and the people working in the facility were mutated over time. Now that's an idea.
last saffron
thats..not how radiation really works. even fallout explained mutations with F.E.V
wheat trail
Okay but face butt teeth monsters
last saffron
radiating cant force your head to split in two and turn into a maw
tumors can have teeth in them, inside them mind you, but not in any coherent form or purpose
wheat trail
ok
faint oasis
It's a game, you can make up any rules you want, as long as you keep it consistent.
winter canopy
is there a wiki for lore yet?
opaque pond
As long as it's not Midi-chlorians, we'll be fine
last saffron
SimonViklundСегодня, в 3:12
@last saffron There's extensive lore. We know exactly what everything's about at this point. More than will be revealed in the game itself even. Things we just need to decide upon and know in order to build a believable backstory for other things.
for those who missed it in chat yesterday ' v'
plush mountain
I would love to see the lore behind the monsters and how there became different types
glacial spire
Warhammer40k wants to know your location
opaque pond
Who needs location when you have a virus bomb
wheat trail
Or an exterminatus?
late oasis
Who needs exterminatus if you got a shovel?
and flamers
and reserves for the reserves
green kernel
Or use a spoon otherwise known as a mini shovel
hardy galleon
aliens or dieses?
formal thunder
who knows
delicate hemlock
formal thunder
yeah honestly
I mean, we saw screenshots from the devs of these monsters in there huge tubes filled with liquid
maybe its cloning
maybe its an inhuman experiment
maybe its monsters DNA that attacks the human body
since the gtfo monsters are clearly humans that mutated
languid walrus
I want some instances in the game where the monsters break out of the tubes to attack.
formal thunder
we are still yet to see those in game
we saw couple of screenshots
it would make it interesting tho
good idea
cerulean forum
I like the idea they are preserving Mutated samples of subjects
steep remnant
It would be cool if they gave us the tools and assets to build our own maps
native plinth
What are the creatures?
last saffron
Noone knows exactly, only that they were once humans
native plinth
And is the underground system a settlement?
last saffron
mining facility supposedly
native plinth
Why are there so many people then
last saffron
because mining operations often require a lot of staff depending on its size
manning equipment, processing, its not just a couple dudes swinging hammers
last saffron
...theres barely to get even a hundred
ingame at most youd get what, 40? if the rng gods hate you
native plinth
That should take care of the job
No I’m saying
This is more of a lore thing
There’s thousands of those things down there
last saffron
and your source on that is?..
native plinth
Well there’s so many different levels of the compelx
last saffron
yes, but theres no concrete number stated anywhere
native plinth
And the enemies make nests if I’m not wrong
So if even 100 existed there would be rapid expansion
I’m not saying it’s concrete
It’s an inference
last saffron
the map in alpha didnt have any nests so its not confirmed really
native plinth
Oh
last saffron
they might, but we have to wait for release to see
native plinth
Yeah but the rundown
The rundown shows us that the these things
They must move into the upper levels
Because each rundown will happen
last saffron
the rundown only shows you the complex, and briefing
native plinth
And more of the things would move toward the surface
last saffron
literally none of that was shown, the rundown explanation clip just had gameplay
nothing ever said they move between levels
native plinth
no I’m just inferencing Jesus
what I’m saying is
It would be more practical if it were a mine and a settlement
Because it would take a long to haul resources back up, and they could keep up a constant demand
And that would explain how the complex has a lot of enemies
last saffron
line workers usually live in that type of work places, its called labour watch or something
native plinth
yeah but also
last saffron
they dont necessarily need to have a town there, just quarters, or mobile cargo housing workers use
native plinth
they could bring their families down too
last saffron
why tho
native plinth
and then you could have a settlement
Because they would be constantly working down there
Also I have a question
Is there a canon lore
last saffron
bringing your family into an active mine just because youre separated from them for duration of watch is...really strange and hazardous
there is, but not yet revealed
simon said they know everything and the lore is extensive
i think faq had something about it being presented in logs
native plinth
the idea of this is absolutely terrifying
late oasis
Doubt they had their families there. if you look at the first mission, the size and layout then the amount of creatures is a plausible amount of workers that were stationed in this section alone. even counting those that were killed off instead of turning
The further we go in the more the count increases too. as if they avoid the rundown. as if they dont want to leave the confinement of the complex. yet.
Their non existent self preservation instinct hints a sort of a hive mind.
Maybe those forms are mere early defense system of sorts while whatever is lurking down there is growing
last saffron
i doubt its a hivemind, more like ants
a hivemind would just instantly make every single one of them know you exist the moment one of them sees you
last saffron
noot really, ants operate on a caste system and lots of pheromones
its all chemical stuff for most part
hive mentality is a better term id say
late oasis
yeah.
last saffron
theyre clearly related, just not connected together with their minds
last saffron
its also serves as a way to explain why they dont turn on eachother
late oasis
my guess is that they serve as defense, food provision
last saffron
something zombies never explain
last saffron
one thing about them is that females dont seem to be able to feed
males clearly have carnivore jaws
late oasis
female biology might isnt compatible with a carnivorous role so they were alterated into soldier roles
last saffron
i meant they dont seem to be able to feed at all, their mouths are overgrown
had a good look at one but lost all screens
late oasis
But they are very well adapted to attack enemies from range
hence why i said they are a soldier role.
they kill and the big mouths eat the biomass
to use it for whatever it´s collected for
look at the scouts. they cant feed either
late oasis
BRUH. I WAS TELLING YOU THAT THEY ADAPTED THE FEMALES INTO SOLDIERS. FIRE SUPPORT
So everything not necessery was removed
they might still are able to gain nurishment but in some other way
late oasis
considering the growths on their heads... they might are like fungus if it comes to food.
last saffron
theyre somewhere up there
late oasis
while the males mutated to a more carnivorous role.
the tongue adds to that.
considering it allows them to go alien on your ass
INNER MOUTH CHOMP MODE
last saffron
i wish theres a reason they never use their fists but have attack animations for them
late oasis
They aint exactly effective with them.
Maybe it´ll be a thing later.
after you´ve blown their head off.
as last resort meele
since they dont stop attacking even on the verge of death. Or being just a walking torso
last saffron
they never really use anything other than the tongue slap so i assume its just because of alpha for now
late oasis
it does seem to work like a projectile attack so... it might is one
last saffron
its fast as all fuck but i did snap a few clear pics waaay back then
late oasis
i´ve seen them.
last saffron
the "tongue" is more like a spring loaded intestine if anything
late oasis
Guess they couldnt evolve the spore launchers so they evolved a... let´s call it an extendet meele
though it would have made more sense to evolve a sort of tail...
wait no that wouldnt make sense
__>
magic dome
Is there like a page or word doc or something that just has all the current lore all in one place without having to scroll through 100+ messages?
proven sparrow
if ya look in the pins there's some short stuff there
magic dome
tnx
vagrant spoke
Just check out the offical gtfo yt channel. The developers go over the bare basic lore that you need to know. Rest is speculation and theory
mystic dove
tall anchor
the gampedia doesn't have much lore yet
opaque pond
Vore Lore?
lavish solstice
No vore ;-;
lilac island
I've learned about Vore a few months ago, now it haunts me everywhere i go
cerulean forum
armagettons worse
wheat trail
Can these creatures see?
toxic sand
Doesn't feel like they can 'see'. But they can sense you. They don't even need a head for that.
modest gazelle
these monster remind me of a bat
like
they can't see clearly, but can sense u, like the buddy said
or like a snake, termosense
plush mountain
maybe the heart is like echo-location?
since they cant see you unless you move during heartbeat. But then how would that explain the tentacle ones
acoustic quest
maybe they're dead or a frozen state and need to breath or something when the hearth beat , thats when they gain the echo-location function
the scout can be a monster from a book
cant see or attack properly , the tentacles just reach the nearest wall/object and even people but if something move the monster attacked in this case screamed
late oasis
Scouts seem to be able to detect living organisms without direct contact. I stood close to a scout behind a crate, one of the tentacles that was passing by was enough to trigger the bastard
Means they dont have to directly touch the target. Just get close
vocal summit
Someone give me a run down on what the fuck happened, what is going on, and what are we doing, and why are we doing
Please
rancid tulip
literally from just the trailers i could gleam that its the future, we are prisoners, i assume our only way out is to please the warden and the underground buildings have valuable resources that the warden wants so he gives us bounties for specific items to deliver to him
other than that you may need to read the above posts, that what im bout to do
i assume that the creatures are man made since we seem to be on some kind of prison planet
future australia if you will 😏
i really hope that the devs add a lore book/ database that we can add to as we play and then read up on in the main menu because i am fucking loving the hints of the world ive seen so far
last saffron
theres no indication were on a different planet, let alone prison. us being prisoners does not mean the entire place is a prison, or what we originate from it even. The complex itself is supposedly a mining operation, however dev kit shows containment tubes and whatnot.
TL:DR from what we have: An entity (Ai/Human/Group of Humans/OS/All combined) is using us against our will to gather things for it, letting us keep anything it doesnt need.
As for the creatures, theyre mutated humans, evident enough on close up. their origin? not known yet. could be a parasite, could be a pathogen, until we get those juicy lore logs we cant really say.
Simon did say the lore is extensive and they know everything that happened, so we better buckle up
rancid tulip
i mean, its clearly the future, i dunno i just assumed from the tech that we had colonised other planets an that the creatures were a result of that ala deadspace style
humble field
if i remember correctly the rundown is supposed to be in the crater from the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs or something
humble field
The Complex
Not much is known about the Complex.
The Complex is supposedly under the Chicxulub Crater which was made by the asteroid that ended the dinosaurs.
from the official wiki
hushed nova
this guy was tongueing me kinda hot ngl
polar inlet
opaque pond
Wait. .. they literally took the same route as Dead Space? Is this like a sleeper prequel to DS?
last saffron
eh
from the looks of it, the host need to be alive in order to change, unlike necromorphs
opaque pond
I meant the Chicxulub Crater bit
acoustic quest
another thing
there are humanoid shape bodies dead , on some floors , maybe not everyone can change , others just died if they cannot endure the change (im sorry if my english sucks but i've never talk about this kind of topic in this language )
last saffron
your english is fine
opaque pond
Possibility that they were killed/killed themselves mid-change
acoustic quest
thanks , also in the closed alpha time we discuss over some analisis in the alpha if anyone want a quick run down of all info i have ask me
last saffron
from the looks of them, suicide would be a tad too hard to accomplish. some of them look torn apart, others still even have their uniform on
acoustic quest
they could killed themselves or the change just killed them
last saffron
the corpse in A1 is a torso with pants, except the lower half is gone Owo
acoustic quest
i havent had the chance to look closely at the beta, just a quick look at the game to see if anything changed and a solo run in first level
for that descripcion maybe he was going to be a shooter
last saffron
nah, the body was male while all shooters are exclusively female. the corpses seem to only be males so far
alpha had one which coudlve been a woman but it was really hard to tell
wrong channel
and you need to dm the bot
nimble cloak
ok thank
acoustic quest
im sorry i didnt read the male part nor i was aware of the gender of the shooters
tall anchor
@polar inlet GTFO doesn't stand for anything, it is just the name of the game.
frail pollen
?t gtfo
cloud swiftBOT
The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.
tall anchor
where's my sources doc
ripe valley
i refuse to accept GTFO doesn't stand for Get the Fuck Out until i'm given a better acronym
opaque pond
"So you're saying it stands for 'get the fuck out '"
"No, it means you want to get something done and then GTFO"
"So... 'get the fuck out'?"
"No, it means GTFO"
ripe valley
then how come when you quit the game it says "GTFO and quit?" say that sentence in your head.
opaque pond
Yeah that's me making fun of it, it's like someone arguing the meaning of "lol"
ripe valley
oh yeah i agree, i read Tooooobad's thing first
pastel tiger
Could be "Get that freakin object"? Since they are all fetch missions? Just saying
opaque pond
So "Complete the Warden's objective and get the freakin object"
wheat trail
Mm yes cramped pillow sleep pod
last saffron
spent an ungodly amount of time trying to peek inside a HSU which spawned at the start of A1
their display glass is transparent, but its so fogged up i cant make out anything
alpine lantern
Slaaneshi no peeking? :P
last saffron
:o
wheat trail
The HSU's look neat, I bet there's a giant shelve of them above the drop area, so the Warden can pick correct Subjects for the mission
last saffron
according to documentary we play as the same set of 4 being sent down each time
plus each character has a description and a name/nickname
toxic sand
Indeed, 10CC want to expend the story involving those 4 prisoners over adding more character.
last saffron
it never was really, the warden post was a player statistic rather than a lore thing
tall anchor
Interesting how the test things haven't increased any possible lore
tall anchor
That's true, but I was expecting a little more of discussion of things found in the alpha/betas.
I've seen extremely little activity here, now, compared to the alpha.
sweet pulsar
personal opinion, the reactor in B1 is the worst reactor in the history of reactors, thanks for coming to my reactor lore ted talk.
Well that's because we just got some new gameplay, and not much else. No new enemies or real areas that divulge much detail, whereas with the Alpha, it was all new.
tall anchor
Wasn't really that much new with the alpha either >.>
sweet pulsar
well it was the first time we could actually get in game, so, there was still some new lore tidbits to dig into
like the interesting fac that the not-humans seem to be...mutated...by some kind of fungus-parasite.
tall anchor
I would argue we already knew that though
sweet pulsar
well I didn't :p
mostly because I didn't get a good look at the game before jumping in
tall anchor
I believe them being parasitic was the first convo in this channel
acoustic quest
Yeah theres the same info , just more corpses in the floor
tall anchor
but yea, not really well signposted :)