#gtfo-lore

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cerulean forum
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It could do that

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But after thousands of years of mutating

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And even then that’s unlikely lol

oak rivet
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Yeah but what I mean is we've never seen anything be able to do that, especially not the most fragile and slowest-evolving of the three: fungus, bacteria, and virus.

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That's why viruses are used for zombie things and whatnot

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Because bacteria and fungi are both easily susceptible to modern medication

cerulean forum
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Unless it’s immune due to mutations

last saffron
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and then antivax happened

oak rivet
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Keep in mind that if cordyceps was more resilient, it wouldn't use ants at all

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It can't spread without ants because it has super specific criteria

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So it needs a mobile host

last saffron
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ants arent the only hosts for it

oak rivet
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If those criteria were eliminated, it could just spread willy nilly

cerulean forum
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Antivax saved so many things what u talking about

oak rivet
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My point is that it wouldn't need hosts if it were a stronger fungus

cerulean forum
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That random mother who thought I think it causes autisim she is the true hero for them

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Over 30,000 children aren’t vaxed in the US so yea have fun

oak rivet
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Those mushrooms you get in your yard from time to time are much better at spreading than cordyceps, and the ones that grow on trees as well

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And it was a doctor who said that, the autism thing

cerulean forum
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Ah was it?

oak rivet
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He was barred from medical practice forever in Britain but now he's in.. the US?

cerulean forum
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Jesus

oak rivet
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His studies were flawed and he flatout lied about the results, plus they were found to be inhumane

cerulean forum
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the US is fucked

oak rivet
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Nah he's not a practicing doctor here either

cerulean forum
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Ah good good

oak rivet
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Wherever he is, he isn't a doctor. Still an activist though

cerulean forum
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But back on GTFO

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We are going away from that lol

oak rivet
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But even then, anti-vax people would die out and that'd be the end of it

cerulean forum
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But they are going to fuck us aswell

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Because they are still spreading

oak rivet
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In case of a worldwide fungal infection. People who didn't want to treat it would become susceptible to it

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Fungal infections are treatable after initial infection. If cordyceps were the culprit, inducing a heavy fever could do it, or reducing body temperature for an extended period of time. I believe higher temperatures will kill it but lower ones.. might put it into hibernation? Most fungi survive the cold underground but some go into hibernation I think

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Cordyceps live around the equator so I doubt they have that capability

cerulean forum
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I reckon the GTFO monsters are infected with some sort or virus

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Of

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But I don’t know I know ulf loves his alien and the siteof GTFO is where a meteor landed

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So maybe some alien virus or an infection

last saffron
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devs said theyre not aliens

cerulean forum
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Never said they were aliens

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I said an alien virus

last saffron
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ehhhh

oak rivet
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They do have some clear Alien-franchise inspirations. The bio tracker of course, and if the prisoners aren't controlled, then the Warden watched them Aliens-style.

cerulean forum
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Ulf loves his alien

oak rivet
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So there is plenty enough inspiration there.

cerulean forum
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And you can see the similarity’s

last saffron
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o, the tentacle and shadow entries dissapeared

cerulean forum
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?

last saffron
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from the wiki

oak rivet
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I don't think it's an alien virus either. I hope it's parasitic (because that's more interesting than virus. Virus is so generic, that's why Cordyceps is so interesting and memorable) but I expect it's a virus

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Hmm

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Yeah they changed the names of the archer and titan as well

cerulean forum
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Like the anime parasyte

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Where’s this?

oak rivet
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Shadows better still be in the game, they're my favorite ones from what I've seen

cerulean forum
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Because in that anime a parasite infect people by controlling their Brian. And able to mutate it however they please

quartz citrus
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i mean, GTFO's parasite does seem to have some similarities to the cordyceps virus

oak rivet
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Controls the host, mutates them, grows on their skin, makes them super violent

cerulean forum
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We don’t know if it’s a parasite

oak rivet
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But it doesn't control the brain

quartz citrus
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we could just be looking at it in the wrong way, it could be a mixture of multiple viruses

oak rivet
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Because it remains in control without a brain present

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Like you can destroy the entire neck, amygdala included

cerulean forum
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Yea it disfigures the host and covers their entire body in some mutated shit

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And when u destroy their head and such they still keep coming

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As though ts not alive it’s just moving around

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Trying to infect more hosts

oak rivet
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The tongue is kept in the chest, not the gut, because you can blow a whole clean through their entire gut and they still attack with the tongue

cerulean forum
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It would have to take ages for a person to be able to mutate into those things

oak rivet
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So I doubt it's the intestines, otherwise they probably wouldn't get pushed out of the stomach like that.

cerulean forum
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Maybe small intestine?

oak rivet
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Well, like cordyceps, nobody says it has to be realistic at all

cerulean forum
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True

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But we could hope to understand it a bit within real Shit

oak rivet
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Just has to be interesting and believable enough for the veil of disbelief

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suspension of disbelief* idk where veil came from

cerulean forum
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Can’t wait to play this game

solid vigil
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they are infected. If you look during the boot up sequence, it measures your level of infection

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Infection could be anything though. Their level of mutation is extreme, and while they dont need their head to live or attack, destroying it inflicts a lot of damage on them, more than body shots at least.

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Its also possible that destroying their head or blowing their gut out does kill them, just not immediately.

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The hulks can have their entire upper body obliterated with the exception of one arm attatched by a thread and keep functioning.

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Its possible you're looking at some necromorph type shit where they only really die when their overall ability to function is reduced to an ineffective level

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Or they just have different biology per strain

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perhaps the normal ones store their tentacle in their chest (hence the visible distention).

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Alternatively if it is a parasitic growth it could be moving around inside of them

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which is why you can blow their gut out, or their chest off without killing them, but not both

west apex
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The real question is, is the warden gonna just kill you when you exit anyways

solid vigil
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No

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but I dont think those are the convicts original bodies

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pretty sure they're clones of some kind

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since it mentions a cognitive uplink or something along those lines in the boot up sequence

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That, and despite not being elite monster hunters, they get pretty deep.
And on top of that, they always come out of a stasis unit

west apex
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What if you are a soldier connected to a prisoners cortex

oak rivet
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I think the link is just to view. If they were clones, why would they infect the clones? Or clone someone with an infection?

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I think they use the same people every time, that's why they're infected. If they die, I'm sure there are others they can use. But perhaps our four are the one who work together well, so they have survived a long time

last saffron
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I think the link allows Warden to gather info directly by using the prisoners as its/their eyes, since prisoners exhibit too much personality to be directly controlled

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a puppet wouldnt retain its mannerisms, instead taking on traits of the puppeteer

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the link might also be used to supress certain thoughts

oak rivet
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Yeah so our four, bishop and them, could be the puppeteers. I doubt it but it's possible

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The warden could be the overseer, or an organization. I haven't seen anything indicating one or the other

worn briar
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How big is the prison they're pulling squads out from?

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Might just be they have plenty of reserves, and don't really care if a few cons get killed

oak rivet
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Yeah I expect that's why they use prisoners

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Or they use test subjects. There were plenty of HSU's on C level

last saffron
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i forgot to take a pic, but the HSU youre looking for are different than HSUs you awake in

oak rivet
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Perhaps the characters were infected before the outbreak and recovered by the warden

last saffron
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the prisoner pods are bulky, while storage ones are more like a bodybag

oak rivet
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Yeah weird shaped and small? I thought the same

last saffron
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they share the lining, looking fabric-ish

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it could be because the pods are attached to deployment system

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naturally making them bigger

floral vessel
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storage ones are meant for long term storage, drop pods may only be used to climatize and pressurize the prisoners before they drop

oak rivet
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Considering the hole seems a tad aftermarket, I expect the HSU's in storage predate the drop system by quite a bit

floral vessel
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yeah, the mine/storage facility was abandoned for years

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/research

viral phoenix
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No wonder there's so many infected then

last saffron
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"lore and backstory will be revealed through different text and audio logs left behind by the people who lived in the Complex before the monster invasion. What shape the outside world is in is part of the mystery that will be revealed in the game, so I won't talk about there here. ;-)"

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🦀 the best approach 🦀

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these

molten jewel
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Oh I knowI played the game

mild salmon
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@last saffron They'd be an excellent addition (or something similar)

last saffron
alpine lantern
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I see, I see.

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I'm glad to say as of today I'm one of the 200-300'ish people. @last saffron |3

last saffron
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ayy

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good work ' v'

alpine lantern
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My life is complete n I can finally rest ._.

last saffron
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i still spend most of my time sneaking around ignoring actual objectives just to observe

alpine lantern
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I am ded inside.

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Also I spent all of this morning up/down-voting all the suggestions xD

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Took me an hour, non stop. >_>

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Now that I've beat it though, I can finally feel justified in doing exactly what I normally do... Derp around, run into walls and boxes and try to break the game. :D

west apex
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Crouch jumping into stuff seems like it's really easy to clip the wall and get stuck

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Not stuck but like stick where you can jump again

last saffron
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shouldnt that go into bug reporting, instead of lore?

west apex
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Yeah I was just saying it in response to what cevet said they are gonna do in the alpha since they beat the level

alpine lantern
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So we now have their S-Mining website and email, along with a twitter.... The plot is slowly thickening. :)

toxic merlin
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whats the s mining website link?

shut mountain
toxic merlin
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not much there huh

alpine lantern
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You can find their email via the source on that site.

toxic merlin
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i found out the meaning of santonian but i imagine everyone has XD

alpine lantern
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The amount of theorizing and speculation on Santonian this week has been ridiculous. :P

toxic merlin
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i mean

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its a real word

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the Santonian is an age in the geologic timescale or a chronostratigraphic stage. It is a subdivision of the Late Cretaceous epoch or Upper Cretaceous series

alpine lantern
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We also somehow managed to get a reply from "abodbacka" the other day. Was their very first message on the server ever. So that was fun~

toxic merlin
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wait

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that time period was also the extension of a species

last saffron
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im gona blow your mind

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check the top comment on the trailer

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one sec ill dig it out

alpine lantern
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Oh geez, the amount of times that trailer-comment has been posted. Slaaneshi you cray-cray.

toxic merlin
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Marsupites is a species of star fish that went rippo

last saffron
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in short, the facility is in the crater which presumably killed the dinosaurs. which happened in santonian era~

alpine lantern
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Someone should just pin it to the channel I think. >_>

toxic merlin
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oh yeah i saw that before

last saffron
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tfw cant find it

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i made like a giant wall of text of all info so far but its waaay up there

toxic merlin
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so the disease probly game from space

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*came

alpine lantern
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Use the "Search" function. :P

last saffron
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id prefer if it didnt

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and instead was from earth

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especially since permafrost is melting

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tfw an ancient disease reawakens and dooms us all.

alpine lantern
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I agree with an ancient disease, pathogen, parasite, creature... Etc-etc fossilized deeeep in the earth only to be found, studied, and accidentally released.

toxic merlin
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thats why i was looking at the one creature

alpine lantern
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Human race-- possibly extinct/transformed into horrible hive-mind'y parasitic monsters all because they were curious about some weird rock they found deep in the ground. |3

toxic merlin
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the starfish thing it went kaput during that time period

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and the tendrils of the scouts seem very....fishy..

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i dunno why but alot of the monsters remind me of the deep sea stuff you see

last saffron
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they also have bioluminescence a trait common for deep sea creatures ' v'

alpine lantern
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Well, we are veeery deep under the surface...

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And they do love dark / moist places~

last saffron
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while i dont know if deep sea life is sensitive to sunlight, it most likely is, plus there are conditions rendering certain people literally burn alive in the light

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and hosts are affected even by a thing as simple as a flashlight

toxic merlin
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yes deep sea creatures are either

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attracted to light or hate it it depends on the creature

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some even fear it

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also some diseases will leave sea creatures with flakey skin growths and even patches of rotten flesh

last saffron
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living in area which has no natural light is spooky

cerulean forum
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I think the term is vampires disease

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Because their body cannot Handle sunlight/the UV rays the sun emits

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And animals get infections/skin conditions that make their body look like it’s made of stone

bronze willow
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me i think the place of GTFO is in the AREA 51...

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i can proove it...normal "creature" do naruto-running.

cerulean forum
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....

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You do know it’s in Mexico right?

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We discovered the location of GTFO a long time ago

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Just trying to understand what is affecting these humans

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Parasite, virus, fungus or even bacteria

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We have ideas and theory’s but nothing set in stone besides whatever it is it affects humans because we have in game pics of people turning into them

alpine lantern
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Wow @cerulean forum you completely forgot to include psychic-space rock/monster in the list of possibilities. :<

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I am deeply offended.

cerulean forum
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Fuck 😐

bronze willow
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maybe an other building in mexico for area 51 so hmmmmmmmm

shut mountain
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Tbh I believe that they were trying to research a fungus or parasitic thingie there. Meterorites tend to have funky stuff in them if you are big enough to burn away entering the Earth, and a landed meteorite can heavily effect and modify the life around it (in other ways than just killing everything lmaaooo)

cerulean forum
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Who cares about Area 51

alpine lantern
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Me and Ravenna are on the same page of thought it seems. I've been preaching the parasite theory since I first got here. xD

bronze willow
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42

last saffron
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it could also force some underground life to surface

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as much as i love memes, area 51 is both idiotic and a dead one.

shut mountain
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Parasites are amazing creatures. They need a host to survive, and nothing else.

alpine lantern
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There's also so many different types of parasites, it's not even funny.

shut mountain
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Ye

last saffron
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they can also alter their hosts in certain ways

alpine lantern
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And if you throw in Sci-Fi futuristic stuff... The possibilities are endless. xD

last saffron
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not direct mutation i mean, influence

bronze willow
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it's like "cloaker" in "the last of us" no ? -no eyes -same noise -no odora -same face -same triggered for the light and the sound ?

last saffron
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i forgot the name, but theres one which deliberately forces snails to suicide

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it forces the snails at a high point while infesting the eye sockets in order to get eaten by their usual host, birds

cerulean forum
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@last saffron I get u so much alsofunny it’s safer for people to raid Area 51 then go to school

last saffron
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the infestation makes their eyes swell, get vividly colored and pulse

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which i assume is the parasite itself wriggling in there

shut mountain
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Oh I know about that one ey. there is one that effects mouse, makes them go kill themselves, run up to cats, the cats eat the parasite up, and the parasite gets up to humans cause cats live around us. 20% of humanity has this parasite, and is well known for making feel people depressed.

last saffron
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since i didnt study them in that detail

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yee, its a part of its life cycle

cerulean forum
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I must have 2million of them

shut mountain
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If you contacted with cats ever, you legit have a chance of having it. But since the human body is way too big for it, it cant flourish at max power

cerulean forum
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Fuck yes

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I must have many many of them

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Give me more

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Time to hug more cats

last saffron
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which is why hygiene is very important, and proper food processing

shut mountain
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I think the parasites in GTFO probably reside mainly in the gut area. The male ones at least. See how the guts are so big the skin literally tore around them on Strikers? Even the Shooters have tons of eggs within their stomach areas, not only on the head.

cerulean forum
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I want to be able to pickup the potato’s

shut mountain
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Wanna try to eat them?

cerulean forum
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And make some potato mash

shut mountain
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Yumyum

last saffron
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im strongly believing their "tongue" is the being itself, taking over their functions while host is essentially brain dead

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at least in strikers

shut mountain
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^ Same

cerulean forum
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It is a big tongue

last saffron
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potentially merging with the brain instead of absorbing it

cerulean forum
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And rs deformed at the end almost as if it’s a big worm

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Or leech

last saffron
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it could be a multitude of worms, since some form densely packed colonies (although these arent parasitic)

cerulean forum
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Which means it wouldn’t be affecting the body as it is

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Although would Aline with the eggs being allin them

last saffron
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being a colony doesnt prevent it from being parasitic in nature, considering this one is fictional

cerulean forum
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Ok

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They still haven’t told us what’s affecting them is fictional it would have to be but if it’s made from something real or just completely made up

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So cant factor that brainstorm anyway because it could even be just a bunch of different things affecting the hosts and once transferred all transfer with it

sage portal
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i want to know why they sent prisoner instead of trained military

last saffron
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too costly, especially if youre dealing with it for the first time

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easier to send in expendables than lose decades worth of training

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especially considering these are completely unknown

sage portal
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i dont think they are dealing with it first time, they had to see the sympthoms and set some experiment

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because why prisoners should fight, they could just refuse moving and do objectives

last saffron
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because they have no other option. they rebel? ok goodluck getting back up that shaft

sage portal
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they can just kill themself ; D

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they should add option to suicide, when your whole team dies, you are solo closed and mutants are about to get into your room

last saffron
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because killing yourself is really effortless /s

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wanting to live isnt something you can discard easily, which is why suicidal people are always universally suffering some affliction

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anyway, warden twitter calls this trial expedition

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Trial Expedition Report #001
No. of prisoners dispatched: 150,639
No. of prisoners successful: 272
Prisoner survival rate: 0.18%
Conclusion: Find more suitable candidates

alpine lantern
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Slaaneshi, how goes it over here in the lore page? (I looked away and there's a giant scroll bar now)

last saffron
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theres another problem that for most part, military isnt trained to deal with mutants processing gigantic "tongues" which can whip a grown map off balance

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stuff ' v'

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Hosts proved to be more than just mindless zombies

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they flank, they constantly shift around to throw your aim off

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and theyre strong enough to rip metal to shreds

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kinda reminds me of resident evil uh..2 the film where a military force got wiped out just at the entrance to the hive

alpine lantern
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Also, just because we're called prisoners... Doesn't mean we are actually prisoner-prisoners.

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We very well could be military, PMC's, Employees, etc-etc... And our bosses or whoever else just decided to throw us under the bus and label us as prisoners to keep prying eyes away or justify their methods, etc-etc.

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There's a lot of things we can only theorize and speculate on without know anything further about the world-setting/lore, or the reason behind the infection and expeditions in the first place.

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Hey @last saffron do you have any recording/audio editing software?

last saffron
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nope sadly

alpine lantern
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Dang... Cause I found something I want to play/test with in-game, but I can't find any good free audio software.

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And the only software I have is for programming and stuff. :(

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@oak rivet , @shut mountain , @maiden hedge

Any of y'all perhaps have decent audio/recording/editing software or such? :)

I just decided to ping people I know are quite active in the lore channel and love to theorize/discuss things since this is game-related ;D

maiden hedge
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I have both

alpine lantern
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Awesome! You should totally do me a favour~

maiden hedge
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But I don't really have time to edit much for quite some time😂

alpine lantern
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""Would any of you be interested in recording the distorted voice during the Rundown-C1 selection and try to spruce up/isolate the dialogue and tell me what it says or send me the audio clip afterwards? :)""

shut mountain
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I personally don't, are you talking about the briefing sound?

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oh yeah I wanna find out what it says too

alpine lantern
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Well it's not jut a sound. I've spent the past thirty minutes fiddling with it, and I can make out only three words so far.

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And this is me using crappy free-to-use audio software. xD

maiden hedge
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Same

alpine lantern
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But I have no isolation or buff features, so.... I can't enhance it effectively. :(

maiden hedge
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But the difference between free and pay often is how much is automated

shut mountain
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My PC is way too shit to record anything, even sound so I cant help you im affraid :( I'm a scriptwriter student, not a sound designer sadly, but I wish a knew a good program for that

alpine lantern
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I'm a web-designer/programmer and IT Security guy... Fiddling with audio software is noooot my forte. xD

maiden hedge
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Gotta wash my face first anyway, just got home from a Halloween event

alpine lantern
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And alrighty, have fun Predated! Def hit us up if you decide to play with the sound though~

west apex
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@alpine lantern audacity is free and easy to use to record audio

alpine lantern
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But I need to be able to properly isolate/edit audio as well, not just record. >-<

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I may also just not be very adept at doing it... Cause as I said earlier, I handle Security/Programming stuff... Not sound or audio design. xD

west apex
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If you get a clip and upload it someone may play with it ya know?

alpine lantern
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Well it's in the game, anyone can get a clip of it easily enough. >=>;;

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I've only managed to get a small phrase out of the clip and it makes zero sense to me... So I'm not sure if it's correct, OR, if my fiddling with the audio is making me hear the wrong words. xD

shut mountain
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What is the phrase sir?

alpine lantern
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There we go, now it looks proper to me. xD

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If I try to isolate single bits / words, I can pick out more but then when I try to piece them together it turns totally unintelligible. xD

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So I'm not sure if I just suck at sound-editing, or if I'm grabbing the wrong pieces of audio.

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Ok, I'm gunna take a break from audio stuff now.... I can swear I'm starting to imagine things and I don't wanna mis-hear it. xD

toxic merlin
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@alpine lantern I do alot of video/audio editing for videos have you tried audacity they have a sound isolation feature

alpine lantern
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^--You should totally pick up the baton/torch then and finish what I failed at doing~ :D

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Gimme dat juicy dialogue >:3

toxic merlin
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I will when I'm home

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I work for around 4 more hours imma get home and see what I can do if no one does it first

alpine lantern
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Cause I've only picked out that single phrase, and like four random words. xD

toxic merlin
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I'll stream it too

alpine lantern
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All the rest I still can't figure out / piece together.

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And without proper context, I don't know what types of words are being used; Such as the No / Know thing.

toxic merlin
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I'll see what I can do I did audio isolation for my red dead old town road edit shouldent be that hard to do for this

alpine lantern
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Much love <3

toxic merlin
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Yush :)

last saffron
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by the way, the hosts do occasionally point at you when detecting

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i forgot whoever found it first, but i can personally confirm

toxic merlin
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I cant wait to do more detective work on this game

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I was one of the people who worked on solveing the secret

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Now that severs a shell now that that's dead I cant wait to find out more lore

alpine lantern
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Well now you get to take a crack at the audio, cause I have given up. xD

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I'm not even listening to it anymore but I can still hear it ringing in my ears. T_T

toxic merlin
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As someone who listened to every bit of audio from pd2 countless times to find something I CANT WAIT to listen to this audio xD

alpine lantern
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I'm also excited for you!

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Tbh I'm surprised you didn't/haven't already listened to it since it seems like you're a bit of an audiophile. x3

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Then again you were excited to play the game, so probably didn't stop to click/listen to the so called "briefing".

toxic merlin
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I dint even know there was a briefing button!

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I just slapped the go button and went in.

alpine lantern
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Heh, you're gunna enjoy it then.

toxic merlin
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Yessss

alpine lantern
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I'm not gunna tell you any of the words or phrases I isolated.

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Cause that'll cause you to hear it with bias. xD

last saffron
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:o

alpine lantern
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Our brains are hard-wired to find things we understand / are familiar with, so... Me telling you something is something, can psychologically cause you to hear the same thing. :)

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<--Minored in psychology ;D

last saffron
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i wanted my diploma to be psychology ; v;

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but group didnt form

alpine lantern
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It's why the "play this record backwards and you'll hear 'such-an-such' word." stuff is so popular. Because the moment that thought enters your mind, it's what you will instinctively listen for, even if it's not actually there.

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Now, if Meerkat comes up with the same phrases/words I have currently, then... THEN we're onto something >:3

toxic merlin
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Alo ..does subtitles work fo it

oak rivet
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So you're trying to figure out what is said right at the end of that clip?

alpine lantern
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No, no, I want the entire clip.

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There's phrases of audio throughout all of it.

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I count at least three sentences worth.

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Well... 2 - 1/2 sentences.

toxic merlin
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Question without hearing it

oak rivet
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How do you access it? Think I was at something else

alpine lantern
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Go to the Rundown menu and just simply click on C1, but do NOT join or host a lobby. Just wait and the audio will play.

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It starts with static, but then immediately goes into dialogue + static + distortion.

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At first it sounds like random gibberish but the moment I isolated a section of the audio there was very clear dialogue with actual words.

oak rivet
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Does it sound like it begins with 'Retrieve data sample from hydrostasis unit. Return to the drop point with sample. (unintelligible)'?

alpine lantern
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The problem is, I have no effing idea what I'm doing. An anytime I try to put the pieces back together it's just complete gibberish to me.

toxic merlin
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Is there anything like the words alpha delta etc

alpine lantern
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Uuuggh, why you do this to me Caeruleo... Fine, I will open the audio again even though I swore I was done killing my ears with it. xD

toxic merlin
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I need to listen to this xD cant wait to get off work. I was wondering if it made no sense because they were useing jargon

pale brook
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Yo, so is there like an official lore thing for this game? :0 are you prisoners or experiments or what?

oak rivet
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I mean if it's not that, I'm listening to the wrong thing. But for the first two sentences, it's tts of the mission objective

alpine lantern
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I'm gunna listen to the game version first since I feel my edited piece is kinda butchered by now

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This is what I'm talking about.

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That audio clip right there where my mouse is.

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Yes, the first phrase is right. The rest is what I can't hear. :(

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There's like 2-1/2 sentences I can't make out

toxic merlin
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Yeah I'll record it and then clip out the audio and work on it tonight

alpine lantern
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I think-- I may have gotten the last sentence, actually. xD

So now I just need the middle one.

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@pale brook That is yet to be determined! All we know is we are referred to as "Prisoners".

pale brook
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Nice :D

alpine lantern
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I-- Am now depressed!

toxic merlin
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Aww

oak rivet
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Oh I got it all now

alpine lantern
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@oak rivet Thank you for making me re-open it after quitting. I've gotten the static out of the way and figured it out.

oak rivet
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Just got the last bit

alpine lantern
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It's.... anti-climactic and depressing.

oak rivet
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Yeah it's just tts of what is written

alpine lantern
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Mnhhhhmmm....

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I knew the first line was the Obj. But the rest was so staticy that it sounded like something else/hidden. Turns out it was just the effing "Depth Measurement". xD

oak rivet
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Yeah I realized that just after you did. I kept thinking it might have started with 'careful' but ignored the last line the whole time

alpine lantern
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Mhhmm...

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And the "Return" in the second line doesn't sound like the word "Return" at all.

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@toxic merlin You can call off the hunt, it's been ruined. D:

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😿

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Am so desperate for a puzzle to solve. T-T

toxic merlin
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Aww

shut mountain
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It's okay Cevet

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I think it is still something

toxic merlin
alpine lantern
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I guess. v.v;;

maiden hedge
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@alpine lantern decyphered it

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Its just "Retrieve data sample from Hydrostasis unit. Return to the drop point with sample. Depth: 427 feet"

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Oh nvm 😂

alpine lantern
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You're a little late to the party, but yes. xD

maiden hedge
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I thought I read all the messages

alpine lantern
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That's exactly what it says. Depressingly enough.

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You gotta admit though the "Return" phrase and "Depth" don't sound like you'd think they would at first. xD

maiden hedge
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I literally just opened the game and listened to it. Then I heard "sample" and saw sample

alpine lantern
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The first phrase sounded totally fine, it was the other two that were driving me crazy.

maiden hedge
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then listened while reading

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gonna do some solo shenannigans to find some stuff

ebon tapir
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so while working on a bunch of commands that are used in normal day command prompt apps, and variations of full words to shotrened version I can't find any more commands on this, I guess the only thing is im missing some subtext somewhere but I didn't find anything

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that was for the terminal btw

alpine lantern
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^--Same, I tried a few CEH commands and nothing came up.

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@ebon tapir did you try using list / query commands or such on things like the S-mining email source or anything? {I've been meaning to but I'm taking a break from the game since I beat it earlier today and am ded inside.}

ebon tapir
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i havn't whats the s-mining email

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ill try it real quick

alpine lantern
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Uhhh... Dang, I had it before... I know @shut mountain has it like bookmarked or sumthin. xD

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But she's gunna murder me if I keep pinging her today. >_>;;

shut mountain
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💀 you are right buckoo

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Nah jk lmaoo

tall anchor
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or something

shut mountain
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^

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We had people send DMs before

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Or emaild

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S

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I don't think they ever received a reply

tall anchor
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I’m pretty sure they didn’t

shut mountain
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But feel free to ping me in this channel anytime ey

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Lore has a exception for me

alpine lantern
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Oooh, I forgot my tinted-cat-mirrors was a lore aficionado as well!

tall anchor
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yee

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I collect it

ebon tapir
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thought i got something but list just is weird doesnt do anything for the list or query commands

shut mountain
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Especially if it's about the characters cause I already love them way too much, especially Hackett and Bishop

alpine lantern
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Mhhmm, but yeah we're trying to see if the ingame commands/terminals might pull something up that we find out of game. xD

cerulean forum
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I love the nigerian guy so much

shut mountain
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What did you lads find?

alpine lantern
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Or even have some IRL commands from other security programs and Cmd lines.

tall anchor
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Dauda’s just out here vibing

alpine lantern
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So far, we've found nothing Ravenna! D:

ebon tapir
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the terminal is very basic

alpine lantern
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I gave up on trying Sec+/CEH commands on the Terminal, they did nothing. xD

cerulean forum
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The other day someone found containers from 3 different company’s

shut mountain
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I'm gonna play a little today, I'll see if I can find something

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Oh those containers are everywhere

alpine lantern
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But I thought it might be amusing if we tried to List / Ping / Query the Santonia email ingame.

shut mountain
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Absolutely everywhere

cerulean forum
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And some looked acidic

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Because of the corrosive warning sign on them

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Wel idfk cus i haven’t gotten a chance to play it

alpine lantern
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Heheh... You got three whole days~

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You'll be fine. ^_^

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I'm fiddling with their website code out of boredom. >_>

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Nothing illegal though, so it's all good. xD

quartz citrus
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looking at the Warden's tweet, only 68 (im basing this off assumption that all successful expeditions were 4-man teams) groups got all the way through

tall anchor
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there’s at least one two and three grouped expeditions

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Ravenna and Genocide (mods) did a duo mission

quartz citrus
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and finished it? dang thats good

tall anchor
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yee

quartz citrus
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if they did a duo mission, then there would be two three-man groups that finished it

tall anchor
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I’ve not heard of other two man groups so far

quartz citrus
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at minimum

tall anchor
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three for sure

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I’ve definetly seen two for sure

quartz citrus
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so then at least 69 groups finished it then... nice

rigid heron
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do we actually have 3 days. in the menu of run down, it has 30

cerulean forum
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My goal is to solo the whole expedition so we will see how much I suffer

maiden hedge
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There was one other 2 man group that was first. I believe there are 3-4 duo missions done

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Once someone finds a way to deal with the 2nd alarm on a solo run, its definitely going to be possible

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The DNA alarm is easy compared to the 2nd alarm

timber swallow
toxic merlin
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@alpine lantern I already combed the source code it would have been great to hide stuff in xD

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I even emailed them

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Just a hello

inland viper
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@timber swallow yes, it's Santonian. There's other things that have the name of the company more clearly

Given that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santonian is what that is, there's a decent chance they Dug Too Deep(tm)

The Santonian is an age in the geologic timescale or a chronostratigraphic stage. It is a subdivision of the Late Cretaceous epoch or Upper Cretaceous series. It spans the time between 86.3 ± 0.7 mya (million years ago) and 83.6 ± 0.7 mya. The Santonian is preceded by the C...

last saffron
alpine lantern
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I knooooow, I see it.

alpine lantern
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It might take you a bit of scrolling / history reading or asking questions to find all the "legit-lore" stuff though. XD

weary veldt
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The sleepers remind me of multiple things. Sorta SCP, but they snore with the sound of Last of Us "clickers". Fungus thing is supported by the few corpses I've seen laying around that seem to be decomposing into brown creeping crud on the floors and walls around them.

alpine lantern
weary veldt
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that tentacle neck thing is straight up RE4

alpine lantern
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Slaaneshi's post should be a little under that one as well. He covered a more broad category, including genders.

shut mountain
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Ooo nice

last saffron
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i forgot where my text even is

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i do have it saved on the notepad

weary veldt
last saffron
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chomp

weary veldt
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That's an alien from Dreamcatcher.

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They're humanoid-ish with that for a head. They don't shoot stuff out of their mouth tho, lol

last saffron
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i believe The Thing was the main inspiration for strikers, can be totally wrong though

weary veldt
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The scout putting out tendrils reminds me of a jellyfish... or what a mycelial network does in fungus... it casts a web out of basically nerves.

alpine lantern
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@last saffron you can find your text-wall by searching for "Entity"

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That's how I found yours and mine. xD

last saffron
#

oh

weary veldt
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So if you touch the web, REEEEE

last saffron
#

good ' v'

alpine lantern
weary veldt
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I'm going to say the sleepers are definitely fungal in nature

true spruce
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Find a black marker at the bottom and it all turns into a dead space spinoff, could always be something related to some sort of "artifact"

weary veldt
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oh yeah... and the glowing they do. Fungal bioluminescence is a thing

lavish plume
#

^ That sounds about right, I can't wait for this game to drop and get some more juicy bits of lore

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Definitely either fungal or genetic mutation via result of experimentation gone wrong, definitely seems like a sorta science facility gone wrong down there

last saffron
lavish plume
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Oh wow, that has to be fairly far in I imagine

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Usually have trouble even getting to the 1st fog room lol

last saffron
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i stick with a pathogen/parasite rather than fungal

lavish plume
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True, fungal usually is accompanied by flora. The scenery will usually match if it is fungal, like that one vault in Fallout New Vegas

last saffron
#

its still possible, just usually parasitic shrooms grow on their hosts post expiration (as seen in cordyceps) replacing tis host tissue with its mycelium

alpine lantern
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You really love that tube, don't cha Slaaneshi?

last saffron
#

' v'

alpine lantern
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Maybe we should put you inside it o.o

last saffron
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glass cannot contain me!

alpine lantern
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We'll put you inside it with the current occupant as well then!

last saffron
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:o

floral plaza
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Touching on the flora conspiracy, the "normal" creatures seem to have the appearance of a Venus Fly Trap.

last saffron
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theory you mean, conspiracy is a lil diffent thing ' v' nue being nitpicky

wispy willow
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Fungal would make sense with all the fog and with the dead husks of creatures lying around.

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Fungus likes dark and damp.

alpine lantern
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Me and @shut mountain will kindly stick with our parasitic / pathogen theory. |3

last saffron
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the (rather unusual) low amount of corpses around still leaves me wondering

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especially since some of them are just parts of the body

shut mountain
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I was pinged and I came running

last saffron
#

all of them have visible process of mutation

alpine lantern
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Parasites! Take what they need, leave the rest/useless stuff~ :D

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Ravenna the discussion of what the infection is has come back up and they're trying to steal away our parasites. D:

last saffron
#

the blood splatters (atleast to me) also look quite cloggy

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as if it was already congealed when spilled

shut mountain
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Yeah I prefer parasitic. Explains why they have a huge tongue and why they react the way they do to sounds and light. Fungus generally does not make creatures behave this way if we look at realistic examples, in video games yes

alpine lantern
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..... I will yield my stance on one possible compromise though... Parasitic fungus? ._.;;

shut mountain
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Sounds something that is from a alien movie which means that it is possible

alpine lantern
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Cause technically, both parasites and fungi are living creatures... It's not impossible for there to be a creature/entity that is considered both of those things.

shut mountain
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Tbh if they were fungus, meleeing would spread spores and not complete eggs. Spore sacks are very, very brittle, can expload to just a touch

alpine lantern
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Yeeeah, the eggs part is what really sells me on the parasite theory tbh. Eggs + heartbeat/tongue inside.

last saffron
#

the eggs also could be full fledged larva or pupae

shut mountain
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^

alpine lantern
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The way it latches onto the nervous system/spinal cord and such, and basically completely merges/assimilates with the brain... Just, super-mega-parasite vibes for me. xD

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It's like a tapeworm kinda, but... instead of your intestines... It's your entire body and your brain o.o

last saffron
#

atleast i assume those are veins

alpine lantern
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I mean, some of the tapeworms they've pulled out of people have been up to sizes of 30'ft long.

shut mountain
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Yeah. Parasites have the ability to change the neurosystem directly

alpine lantern
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Which would also make the whole "tentacle/melee attack" very realistic...

shut mountain
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Fungus not so much unless it is the rule of the world that the video game has

alpine lantern
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It's just the wurm/parasite stretching out of the body to attack/latch onto the hostile/enemy (us) >_>

last saffron
#

usually a fungus simply replaces tissue with itself

shut mountain
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But since this is a alpha and we do t have that much on the story, it's hard to say what is a "written" rule and what is not

last saffron
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instead of altering the body itself

shut mountain
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^ yes

alpine lantern
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I think I've grossed myself out, comparing everything to IRL tapeworms now... I'm gunna stop xD

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Still though... 30ft of worm inside your body, just imagine that. ._.;

shut mountain
#

This reminds of that one video with that bloodworm eating up another worm

last saffron
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i mean, our intestines are rather long, just very compact

shut mountain
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Also let's not forget a special kind of worm that resides in praying mantis

last saffron
#

spiders too i believe, those are huge

alpine lantern
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Or the--- mnh... mango-worms that infest animals/dogs? There can be up to over 1000 worms in a single dog, and the dog would still be alive.

last saffron
#

parasites can be quite squishy, practically flattening themselves to fit in

true spruce
#

horse hair worms**

alpine lantern
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Parasites / especially worms, are just... effing, don't even underestimate them or their vitality. xD

shut mountain
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Yeah, blackworms are kinda similar to what we see in gtfo tbh. They keep the host alive in some way, but ultimately they modify their them to their needs, and take up their insides for themselves

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Don't Google blackworms

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I really suggest not to lmaooo

alpine lantern
#

^-Considered it, then decided not to.

last saffron
#

instantly googles

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ooh, those

alpine lantern
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Slaaneshi let me know what you find, cause I'm gunna heed the advice and not search it. xD

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Cause I'm going to lunch soon.

last saffron
#

i love all things nature, as gross as they can be

shut mountain
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Check it on youtube

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It's extremely fascinating but makes you afraid to touch any mantis for a lifetime

alpine lantern
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I mean... I already don't touch mantis's, so. >_>

last saffron
#

i mightve gotten the wrong result, lemme alter the search a bit

alpine lantern
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Could just have Ravenna link you to the proper thing. xD

last saffron
#

Nematomorpha that ye?

true spruce
#

the parasite you are looking for are Horsehair worms

shut mountain
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Its horsehair worm in other names

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Yeah lethargic knows

alpine lantern
#

Mnhh, y'all are making me curious. >_>

true spruce
#

Saw one yesterday in all this rain

last saffron
#

yee got it

alpine lantern
#

But I will not look! Not until well-after lunch. T_T

floral plaza
#

That's what the fungus "Ophiocordyceps unilateralis" does. It infects the host, causing it to pretty much kill itself and out comes some lovely spores to keep on keepin' on.

shut mountain
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The sleepers do not kill themselves thou

last saffron
#

interestingly, ants try to quarantine the infected

shut mountain
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They are only attacking once they have a reason to activate themselfes

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"activate"

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There is a difference between attacking everything on sight risking the host and letting it sit idle or taking control of it

last saffron
#

the way hosts stretch from time to time is curious

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when they thrash even more so

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its like "wake the fuck up, food!"

alpine lantern
#

.... Probably the worm readjusting itself. T_T;;

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Yup, I'm grossed out now. xD

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I couldn't stop myself.

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My lunch is now ruined.

last saffron
#

the hosts are mostly in fetal positions, or atleast trying to curl up, even when standing

alpine lantern
#

I hate (love) all of you for this.

shut mountain
#

Yeah. If the sleepers were having the spores that pidgun described, there would be no sleepers by now, as all hosts were probably be dead by the time the prisoners go down

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They could just wait for all of them to go and end their life's and collecting HSU DNA would be a lot easier

true spruce
#

the fetal position is a kinda default position for the human body

shut mountain
#

Sorry about that lunch Cevet lmaoo

alpine lantern
#

It's ok...It's all for the sake of lore. ._.;;

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😰

shut mountain
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Hey I should be watching retro replay too lmaooo

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But I was pinged so I arrived

alpine lantern
#

And you had a lively convo!

last saffron
#

' v'

alpine lantern
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Which ended with me being disgusted.

shut mountain
#

Pardon lmaoo

last saffron
#

hey, i watched my ferret getting a part of its gut removed live during operation

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ive seen it all...

alpine lantern
#

I can handle... certain gorey things, but parasites i can't handle well at all. xD

last saffron
#

its a normal response

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noone really enjoys a foreign body in them

alpine lantern
#

Seeing what the parasite does to someone? Doesn't affect me, seeing the parasite being taken out or such, nooope, I'll get sick. xD

last saffron
#

especially if said body feeds off them

alpine lantern
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But I feel we made good discussion progress!

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And... uncomfortably similar IRL comparisons. >_>;

last saffron
#

also of note, i hope noone feels like im thrashing their theories

floral plaza
#

I have a mild case of trypophobia. If I stare at a sea sponge, I get the heebie jeebies.

last saffron
#

its hard for me to see if im being harsh through text

alpine lantern
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I think "everyone" in this chat who actively participates has both agreed / disagreed about others and been agreed / disagreed with. xD

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So you're totally fine, imo.

last saffron
#

i just dont really want to hurt people unintentionally

floral plaza
#

@true spruce Livin' like Larry

alpine lantern
#

Then you should just agree with everything I say and I'll never be hurt! :O

true spruce
#

everyday

shut mountain
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Oh yeah, good discussions are amazing if if you theory ends up being debunked ey

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It's natural sometimes heads knock

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If it's done in a civil manner it's still gonna be great

true spruce
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you know i had something about this being the larva of some sort of parasitoid but i lost it

alpine lantern
#

Now the only question left is, are we fighting "earth parasites" or "space parasites"? XD

floral plaza
#

Our argument is pathogen or fungi. What about..... Wait for it..... Pathogenic Fungi. Agreed? Agreed. All in agreeance, say I.

last saffron
#

parasite which thrives in a fungus which excretes a pathogen

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the ultimate theory

floral plaza
#

^

alpine lantern
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Oh geez. We're getting crazy now.

shut mountain
#

Yeah I'm not against that theory. A parasitic fungus or a fungus which evolves into a parasite using the intestines of the prey sounds cool

glossy cargo
#

Oh

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That's..... interesting.

true spruce
#

well tbh this is more then likely alien

floral plaza
#

Or we could just chalk it up to the invasion of the bodysnatchers pt. 2

alpine lantern
#

Agreed with what Ravenna said. Transformation/Evolving is a common thing among what 'we' consider harmful entities... Viruses / Fungi / Parasites / etc... They constantly adapt, especially when given the proper environment or 'food'.

last saffron
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hell, in here i think uh, common cold? is evolving every year now so we have to vaccinate against the new strain

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it doesnt turn deadly, it just stops reacting to previous vaccine

shut mountain
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Oh yeah in 20 years it is said that common cold with be too resistent against human medicine

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So get ready boyysss

floral plaza
#

Why not a bacterial infection, can be airborne as well contracted through bodily fluids. The decaying bodies could be what the bacteria has decied to take and has left the rest releasing through the air and infecting all other capable hosts in the compound.

true spruce
#

thats it we figured it out

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its the common cold

alpine lantern
#

Yup... It's the common cold far in the future.

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That's the entire premise of GTFO, curing the mega-evolved-resistant cold strain.

floral plaza
#

The common cold was abolished until Fry brought it back.

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Nod to Futurama

last saffron
#

i find it scary how a disease from ancient time, could potentially become terrifying if it resurges today

alpine lantern
#

But yeah, one last note on my/Ravenna's theory side. I'm hoping it's not a space-parasite and preferably just something that was deeply hidden away/fossilized in the earth and was disturbed/revived by curious coprorations/scientists.

shut mountain
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This is so sad, can we consume sleeper eggs for research

alpine lantern
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I'm not a fan of "it's a bug from space! Oooooh, scary~"

last saffron
#

i really enjoy things which are earth based

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as much as i like space

shut mountain
#

Tbh I rheorize that it is definitely something that came from not earth due to the placement of the complex

alpine lantern
#

@last saffron Your comment resonates with what I just said! :D

last saffron
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for me, "Earth, fuck yea!" posts are great

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like, aliens being completely afraid of us, our wildlife etc

alpine lantern
#

Truuuue, the complex "is" in a skethy place / crater from space rock. >_<

last saffron
#

us being an utter paradox

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"holy shit, humans consume oxygen and create co2!?"

shut mountain
#

Alright I'm going back to watching youtube, if you all need me ping me and I shall come running

true spruce
#

😱

last saffron
#

"their mouths are full of Acid?!"

alpine lantern
#

M-maybe... the space-rock crater is what unearthed the fossilized ancient earth disease/parasite? T_T

last saffron
#

could be!

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if i recall, there was an ancient bacteria revived after a hundred years i think

true spruce
#

Dino STD's

alpine lantern
#

...Or even mutated/evolved it with the radiation and other factors from space/spacerocks. xD

last saffron
#

im probs really far off, i just remember it was old

shut mountain
#

Tbh I'm not against the there was something in the meteorite when it landed theory. Meteorites have funky matterials in them and can contain stuff that are dangerous

alpine lantern
#

So it's a hybird of Earth AND space death! :D

floral plaza
#

I mean, there is a big hole in the ground that you go into, maybe it was a funtioning compound with real people and whatever was on the meteor made its way through and infected the humans, inciting the gov't to react and their best idea was to use trained soldiers to control convicts who were scheduled for deathrow anyway to try and execute the infection from space?

alpine lantern
#

Sadly, as much as it pains me. Ravenna is probably right. XD

true spruce
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or hell this is really out there the asteroid itself was a living creature

floral plaza
#

And that's what making all the tunnels you see when you land! @true spruce

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We're cooking now ladies and gents and others.

alpine lantern
#

Fun fact, since you're discussing the meteorite being a living thing...

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Google; Pyura Chilensis. :)

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It's something I remember reading years ago. xD

shut mountain
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You all come up with good stuff and I can't watch videos in peace smhhh

true spruce
#

people eat them waa

alpine lantern
#

Hey, heeey! We didn't ping you this time.

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You can't blame us for your lore-theory-obsession. |3

floral plaza
#

It is a filter feeder in the ocean that feeds off of microorganisms, but looks like a rock.

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Sneaky sneaky.

last saffron
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keep the video running in a separate window so you can watch both o wo

lilac island
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I think it's an M2M parasite, something that can be warded off via hydrostasis, at least temporarily. Depending on how far it integrates into the subject, it could also explain the ridiculous levels of resilience on certain subjects, most notably the larger ones, or the specials. If it replaces or reinforces and modifies the original structure, then it would harden or layer the epidermis using an invasion method similar to Staph or MRSA. I honestly think that one or more of the devs got the general concept from watching The Strain.

alpine lantern
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On the outside it is a rock! But if you break it open you find blood and organs everywhere. :P

shut mountain
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Yum yum

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Crunchy

alpine lantern
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Sooo... Why can't a space rock / meteor also be a living creature? ^_^

shut mountain
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Alright I'm really going lmaoo. You all have fun and ping me when you guys find something about Hackett mah ultimate bae

last saffron
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im hoping we might get something like Carrion protagonist, from devolver

true spruce
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Yes!

alpine lantern
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Am I really defending another theory against my parasite theory? Oh how the tides have turned.

floral plaza
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Living matter would absolutely burn up before it breaks through the atmosphere.

shut mountain
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And Bishop. I know his first name starts with F. And that he is the author of the website but I need to know more about the British lad

floral plaza
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Would have to be a big meteor and a tiny tiny creature to land safely.

alpine lantern
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But it's not impossible~ :O

shut mountain
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I mean that meteor was big enough to make 99 percent of the world go extinct lmao

true spruce
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Again with my "living asteroid" it could be dead and something that big would take forever to decompose, its just the stuff that it brought with it that we are dealing with

shut mountain
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F for the dinosaurs

alpine lantern
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Meteorites also sometimes contain metals/minerals that we don't have here on Earth. Which could make them more resistant to burning up/crumbling during atmospheric entry.

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Ravenna : claims multiple times to leave.

Ten seconds later

Ravenna : Still here, but claiming to leave very soon

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😛

shut mountain
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Don't call me out like this

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😩

lilac island
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If we're going with a Bio-Meteor, then that itself does not count as a theory; there would be so many ways for it to work that it's more of a genre than anything.

alpine lantern
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It's ok, I share your pain.

true spruce
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true enough

alpine lantern
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I'm not rooting for or upvoting the "bio-meteor" I am still very much on the Parasite train. I'm just saying it's theoretically and realistically possible.

true spruce
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is level 3 the deepest that we have seen so far?

last saffron
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i bet Simon knows alot about characters

alpine lantern
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The map shows 5 levels.

last saffron
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considering his comments about them are on the wiki ' v'

alpine lantern
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So there's 2 more levels below where the Alpha is taking place at.

lilac island
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OR, it's an M2M parasite that came from a Bio-Meteor 😂

shut mountain
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^

true spruce
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yeah just wondering if we have SEEN anything on them?

shut mountain
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Oh yeah those commends on the wiki are from a audio blog

alpine lantern
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Mmnh... Do we know where the 2nd video the devs posted takes place at?

shut mountain
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About the voice actors and characters

last saffron
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hype

shut mountain
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Nope Ceveg

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*Cevet

alpine lantern
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Dang.

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Then yea, we've only seen Lvl 3 ~ C1.

floral plaza
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I'm liking the idea of the scientists poking shit they shouldn't and infecting the world with this horrible, mutative micro-organism that they found off of the meteor that crashed into earth and once they awoke one, the rest that were still on the meteor also awoke infecting the surrounding vicinity.

true spruce
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hmm because level 4 is always blinking red

shut mountain
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Sane Pidgun

last saffron
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"Sam, did you follow the proper lab procedures?"

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"Dont worry about it"

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2 days later, everyones dead

alpine lantern
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We also know how deep C1 / Lvl 3 is... So take that measurement and we can "safely guess" how deep levels 4/5 are in comparison.

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C1 is 473 ft in depth, yeah?

floral plaza
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"You were supposed to read the LOPs, Sam. You idiot."

true spruce
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I believe.

last saffron
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still curious why the area right before bottom is red, while the one below it is blue like the rest

alpine lantern
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So that's on level 3... Which means that the two floors above are maaaybe 170ft / 315ft respectively? With levels 4/5 being around maybe 610ft / 835ft?

lilac island
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Kind of along the same lines: a M2M lands via meteor, maybe thousands or millions of years ago. Later, a company sets up a mining site for experimentation, but comes across the meteor. Shit goes wrong, outbreak occurs, and by the time they manage to quarantine it, the base is compromised and outbreak has occurred on the surface. Now, The Warden needs whatever progress the scientists made on the various things related to the M2M in order to try and survive.

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A few other elements to toss in, but that's the gist.

alpine lantern
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..... Maybe our characters are prisoners because they were part of the reason/cause of the outbreak? :O

last saffron
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in words of gordon ramsay (directed at prisoners)

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"YOU FUKIN DONKEYS"

floral plaza
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Or they were involuntarily and have to do then anyway because in the eyes of the public, a convict is a convict, and we're seen as expendable. The child predators and tax evadors first of course. Lol

true spruce
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in the end its just a giant sarlacc pit

last saffron
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the plot twist we didnt know we needed, but we did

lilac island
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It could be that some of the miners were rounded up, but kept in stasis due to infection. Using some neural link tech, they control, influence, or monitor their progress as they go into the hole. They clearly are still themselves and have will, so it leans towards influencing or hard walls for certain actions, like escape.

last saffron
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influence is more likely. promises of freedom can do wonders

floral plaza
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To be fair, are we absolutely certain that these are the voices and actions of the controlled or the controllers? These could just be comms between the soldiers controlling the prisoners.

lilac island
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True, but they feel the same levels of fear and independence that the captives normally would.

last saffron
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each char has more personality than a puppet would, plus a controller would most likely use more formal language

lilac island
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If they were operated shells, who cares if one dies?

true spruce
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that is true, a interesting concept

lilac island
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The point is simple: people screwed up, now infected prisoners are being indirectly controlled or influenced to go fetch gear and research.

floral plaza
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Exactly, now influence and forced actions are two completely different things. You can influence someone to do something, but they won't necessarily do it unless you force them to. Every person is afraid of the concept of death thus the neural link. The soldiers necessarily don't have anything to lose but the shell they're operating.

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And prisoners and convicts are aplenty.

lilac island
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This would also open the door to a very interesting game mode: legitimate survival. Due to gas or overbearing levels of infection, a random one or two people in your squad slowly begin to turn. Luckily, in the deep levels of the base, there is some basic inhibitor that can be found and used.

alpine lantern
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^-- Are we getting into "Gamer" levels of cerebral cortext control here?

floral plaza
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When this game first announced, my imagination went straight to that. @alpine lantern

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I don't see why not. They may be living beings, but like I said in the eyes of the public. A convict IS a convict, and seen as expendable.

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An inmate, prisoner or convict is seen as someone who has nothing to add in society, why keep them around.

lilac island
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But that's assuming that the outside world is mostly untouched, enough for social politics and reception to come into play. This also implicates that The Warden are some form of ruling corporation or group that has legitimate power within society.

last saffron
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usprisonsysteminanutshell

alpine lantern
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So we're discussing the Gamer/Deathrace society standards.

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Yeah, I can get on board with those theories.

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Well! I now can finally drive home, so I will see you all in a lil while depending on traffic! :)

lilac island
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No worries, stay safe. I'm going to shower and eat, but my ankle's completely FUBAR, so I will be back for more of this fanfiction-esque guesstimation 😄

floral plaza
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In an apocalypse, there is always an established gov't whether it be patriarchal or presidential. People in positions of power are usually able to keep that power do to societal structure. There are the lead and the leaders. Corporations or gov't power over all this is not out of question.

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@last saffron I mean, personally I wouldn't want to see a child predator back on the streets ever.

last saffron
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i mean, considering id prefer a death sentence to some types of convicts im not really disagreeing

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we dark territory now

alpine lantern
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Let's make sure we keep to game-theories and not full-on-IRL opinions~ <3

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Ok, noooow I'm driving home. xD

floral plaza
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Lol

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Life imitates art.

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And vice versa ofc

icy oar
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okay so

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here's what i think happened

floral plaza
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Very compelling argument ^

icy oar
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so some scientists and mechanics were testing a new device when something went wrong and opened a portal to another world that had those parasites and it infected everyone in the lab and possibly everyone in the entire planet, so our characters were imprisoned by the warden (an AI created by the military with the mission of finding immune survivors around the world) it managed to locate 4 human beings that were immune to the parasites and so it kidnapped them and pretty much somehow gave them a cybernetic enchancement which allows them to view their ammo health etc. so the survivors went floor a1 where they found actual parasites and attacked them, when they found a stairway leading to floor b1 where they encountered some survivors and tried to get them back to the surface to keep them safe when some remaining parasites got to the survivors but before it was too late a survivor which seems to have been a scientist said code goes here but our characters didnt know what that meant but they moved on (1/3)

deep wyvern
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works for me

carmine fossil
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I'm thinking this is like an 'Umbrella Corporation', imagine if this is the new Resident Evil

icy oar
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at one point they found some pods that read "c1" and so they got in and they were lowered down to that exact floor, when they got there they saw some infected hunched over and so they approached them when they saw that their chest started pumping, when one of our characters started moving one of the infected started twitching and they realized that they should not move when their hearts beat and so they managed to get through floor c1 using their hammers, same thing happened with floor d1 , e,1 when they got to floor f1 there they realised that all of the infected were a mix of all of the previous infected when they looked behind them they saw a new type of infected... the stalker, when they saw it the stalker pounced on one of the survivors trying to infect them too but that did not work since they all of them have an immunity to the parasites, after they killed the parasite they moved on... they got to the end of the end of the facility where they found the portal (2/3)

icy oar
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(3/3) when they found the portal they tried finding a way to switch the device off, after a bit one of the survivors found the switch the device started closing when the device started malfunctioning and made a loud sound that could be heard throughout the facility and alerted all of the infected in it, after a while they managed to kill every infected individual that managed to get down to floor f1 and managed to close the device... after that they went to the surface they saw that all of the people that were previously infected were now ok and they saw that all of the parasites were on the floor... dead... after that the warden managed to kidnap them again and brought them to the military where they were tested on for months. (To be continued in GTFO 2?????)

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what do you all think of this

last saffron
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well that went fanfiction fast

icy oar
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xD

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i mean

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they could possibly add that right

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since there isnt really any lore within the game

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so all that could definitely happen

waxen haven
icy oar
harsh totem
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why does taking a DNA sample cause enemy swarms?

icy oar
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what does this have to do with lore??????????

harsh totem
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well if it's not a bug then it has to be

floral plaza
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It's the physical act of removing the DNA Sample from its container that sets off an alarm that I assume was implemented to alert guard and staff that were present before the outbreak or were turned. @harsh totem

fast harness
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if you look at teh body language of the characters when your in lobby, all except one, are phsycotic

solid kindle
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Tbh I want to know more about the guy in the Hoodie. He's my favorite looking character.

fair ether
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@fast harness
I think during the intro cutscenes among other text there's mental status of prisoner. Maybe there's a connection?

last saffron
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the mental state is randomized on each start up, alongside infection level

fair ether
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@last saffron
Probably a placeholder for now, just like "detailed info" in scanner

fast harness
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I believe that we are required to extract the DNA sample because the hideos abominations we're fighting, are in fact us. we were developing some sort of mutated strain of human DNA, and obviously either the test subjects got out of hand or the pathegeon became airborn under the right condistions (humidity, moisture, ect) that you find down below. i think the characters mental state is judged by ho wmany expiditions theyve been on, and the nightmarish monstrosities theyve seen. purhaps the prisoners were workers in this researchlab, and are doomed to find the cure or or what have you BEFORE the conditions are perfect above ground. that would make sense of the infection levels and mental state.

fair ether
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It could be a rush not to save the world, but to save the ass of whoever is in charge. Since we got all these (quite resistant to firearms btw) monstrocities down there, then whatever research created them obviously made some progress. If the guys in charge reports failure, they will face consequences. Right now they can send down remaining employees until they die, reach a critical level of infestation or (maybe) manage to get things under control again.

solid kindle
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And you know, the fact the people being sent down are all Prisoners and ect.

sly mountain
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The pathogen being recently airborne would explain the use of respirators by all prisoners and the thick fog that makes most flash lights dog shit

late oasis
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The C1 area looks like a digging site. My guess is that it might be a digging operation until they found... well whatever this damn infestation is, then the researches came and... standart horror protocoll gamma 5. everything went to hell because of a security breach

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and now in order to cover it up they throw prisoners at it since they are disposable and wont leak information outside.

last saffron
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c1 is more of a storage really, all the forklifts, shelves etc

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drilling is probably somewhere below

solid kindle
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Drilling probably was in the area we spawn in c1 but at the same time it looks like it was made post entry of the prisoners, so most likely it was an emergency "Get the fuck out" upwards drilling to escape.

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Which would explain why there seemingly is no other way up besides the lift that drops you down.

fair ether
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Could be that the outbreak and following infestation occured way before and the facility was buried for some time. And we are being sent down there to check what is going own

late oasis
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That implies that whoever is in charge KNOWS what happened down there.

solid kindle
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What if it's like the original Fallout where we need X-item to keep the popular on the surface alive.

last saffron
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ehh, im not sure about drilling upwards. the drill would have to be absolutely gigantic to make a hole that big, and it probably wouldnt leave metal bending upwards

late oasis
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Otherwise they wouldnt send prisoners to check whats going on

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but military instead.

last saffron
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if it was pointing down, id believe it since drilling randomly can force the structure to collapse

fair ether
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Whoever is in charge has to know what happened down there. Not exactly, but at least in general. But if all the tech/info/samples are down there, they still need us to get them

late oasis
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I assume that the drilling went first downwards and everything else was build around it after they found something there.

solid kindle
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Maybe... some kind of explosion?

last saffron
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sending military blindly is not a really good idea

solid kindle
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We may never know.

late oasis
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military or private security. but not prisoners. unless you have some shit to cover up

last saffron
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you cant really train a marine to fight off a swarm of rapidly whipping, razor toothed monstrosities. especially if a single whip almost sends a person flying

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including how blowing their limbs off doesnt even guarantee a kill

late oasis
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Then again you can equip them with high powered weaponary to deal with it.

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Autoshotguns, heavy machineguns, flamethrowers and whatever futuristic weaponary they have

solid kindle
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Instead they give the prisoners cheap and easy to make weapons.

late oasis
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clear one or two rooms, send in supplies and continue

last saffron
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and lose all that down there

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money well spent

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youre not sending them to fight another military, which can be predictable

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youre sending them to face god knows what

solid kindle
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It would explain why the heavier and more expensive guns (Sniper, Shotgun, Ect ect) are all limited ammo.

late oasis
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^

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the shotgun busts them quite quickly.

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Doubt those pump actions are more expensive to make than an AR

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or machinegun in that matter (though that thing is more of a battle rilfe if we´re being honest)

solid kindle
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The ammo to sustain them are probably more expensive than the Pistol itself is to make.

last saffron
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ammo probably costs more than deploying them 🤔

late oasis
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plus if you really need to go down there then you can scout ahead with a drone which would be considerably cheaper than dozens of prisoners

last saffron
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can a drone open doors though

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they seem to be sensor

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it wont be able to open a security door for sure, normal doors probably

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it would also probably wake the first thing it bumps into immediately

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which would be interesting

thick nebula
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There's some sort of bio-sensor on just about everything it seems. Like the terminal explicitly says it's waiting for employee presence or something before you can interact with it. Doubt a drone would be picked up by that

last saffron
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how do they react to non organics

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theyre sensitive to light and mostly orient on sound and movement

late oasis
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you can interact with them from the outside though... considering a lot is automated there should be a way to access the control systems and open the doors from the outside

solid kindle
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They don't really react to non-organics that aren't lethal.

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You can dome them in the head with a glowstick and they won't even flinch.

last saffron
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dunno if they can see, through the "heart" potentially since standing in ones face doesnt bother it in the slightest even if its "stretching"

late oasis
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they seem to be purely movement based. almost like bats.

solid kindle
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Maybe they are echo-locative.

late oasis
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would explain why they make those noises all the time

last saffron
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some of them do point at you when waking up

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i remember waking one up from behind a shelf with a flashlight just to see what happens

solid kindle
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And since most of them are so ghastly pale they most likely have the symptoms of Albinoism.

last saffron
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lil friend just ran up to me and pointed before screaming

solid kindle
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Which explains why they responsive to the flashlights.

late oasis
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echo location plus oversensitivity to light.

solid kindle
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I think the guys with the head split open still have working eyes but they aren't night vision.

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And the guys with the bloated, black heads are probably echolocative.

late oasis
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If their eyes still work they are MASSIVLY damaged

solid kindle
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Which explains why they are the ranged enemies too.

last saffron
solid kindle
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Maybe he has a little eye inbetween the teeth I don't know.

late oasis
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the head is split right through the middle.

last saffron
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a bad pic, but the eye sockets on them look overgrown by skin

late oasis
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they are either overgrown or deformed to the point where they barely see a thing

last saffron
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corpse mid transformation

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eyes overgrown

late oasis
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we can scratch that of the list.

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my guess is that when they are dormant their echo location is severely reduced

last saffron
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the closer you are to them to more they react to movement

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to the point even if its fully asleep itd go into "stretching" when you moved an inch

late oasis
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seems that dormant state= low awarness
"Stretching"= lower frenquency scan so to speak
agitated= echo location kicks into overdrive

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it also would explain how they seemingly find you even after you lock 3 rooms worth of doors in between them and you

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and went to hide

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Would be cool if that could work... they stop hunting once you got away far enough

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It´s safe to say that whatever started this outbreak is used to dark and cold enviroments.

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all of the mutations are geared towards hunting in narrower spaces and low light areas

fair ether
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seems that dormant state= low awarness
"Stretching"= lower frenquency scan so to speak
agitated= echo location kicks into overdrive
That look like some good energy efficiency. No point wasting nutrients on high-presicion echolocation

inland viper
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Get out of here before I set yutani on you

fair ether
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Number 11 is really hungry today. Don't test my patience 😄

inland viper
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number 11 can eat an icecream, you scram

late oasis
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just feed it napalm. Maybe it´ll get fire resistant

fair ether
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That suggestion is worth checking

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Not on Number 11 though, 56 and 73 will be the first subjects

late oasis
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If they dont get splattered by pulse rilfe rounds beforehand like 23 and 86

static jacinth
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I always figured they tracked based off a combination of echolocation and EM, like how a shark does.

inland viper
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well, bioluminescence still em surely, but glowsticks don't alert

static jacinth
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When I say EM I mean the electrical signals from muscles

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which I think is why they wake from even the slightest movement when the heart is pulsing, even silent ones

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like standing up

fair crystal
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There is a short 9 min cgi video that made me think its message/ concept could be a possible reasons why you are killing monsters in GTFO. Here is the link

fair crystal
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Is killing the monsters even real? It might be a test simulation of what is real for the convicts to train and perfect their skills before sent into real missions.

wispy willow
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I'm guessing we're employees who are neuro-linked into the bodies of convicts.

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Hence why we're allowed to dive again and again even after dying.

fair crystal
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Thats alot of convicts and good network connection in deep cave systems

wispy willow
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True, but there are cryocorpses everywhere, and lots of active terminals so clearly the computer network is still up. Maybe it's all running off wifi. 😋

fair crystal
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What if the connection is broken? Or hacked?

wispy willow
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Doesn't it say unauthorized access in the intro?

fair crystal
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Im not sure

wispy willow
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Nope, it says something else

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manual override

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The vitals it gives in the start sequence are interesting

fair crystal
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@wispy willow what does the company want? What and why are we retrieveing some items for someone who doesnt value our lives? Is throwing unprepared and non professional trouble souls to fix some wealthy corp ceo problems? Lol

wispy willow
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Idk. The people being thrown at the problem are already infected though. One of the vitals listed is "infection level" and it varies randomly between low and high.

fair crystal
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Right but what are we retrieving exactly?

tall anchor
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a dna sample

wispy willow
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DNA samples, at least in this mission. Might be other things we retrieve in other missions.

fair crystal
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Dna sample of what?

tall anchor
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a person

wispy willow
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Human dna sample

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the containers seem to be some kind of cryostorage or suspended storage

fair crystal
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Who is the person?

wispy willow
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It's different people every time

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hence the different container names we have to hunt down

fair crystal
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Does anyone have alist of all the names?

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Has anyone found any interesting things in the terminal?

floral vessel
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wayy too many questions

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names are probs just random atm, terminal has nothing it is only for player use atm

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you should be able to answer most of the questions you asked yourself or by common knowledge and/or VERY MINIMAL research

fair crystal
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Sorry just trying to get a better understanding of lore

floral vessel
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so much, not that much has really come up

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check pinned messages, it'll some of the thoeries/locations etc

fair crystal
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Thanks

fast harness
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any warden theories?

solid tiger
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AI overwatcher
group of people called 'the warden'

fast harness
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is that conf

wispy willow
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It's GLaDOS' meaner, less funny cousin.

solid tiger
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i would love a voice for the warden, that randomly makes jokes or mocks the prisoners

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NOT like glados but different

wispy willow
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I’m wondering whether this might be a post apocalypse scenario. Resources certainly seem scarce. You’d think a threat of this magnitude would have more supplies to fight it.

solid tiger
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maybe the operation is top secret and they are using prisoners to fight off the experiment

fast harness
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i think its a very contained epidiemic for a specific resource

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the mine seems abandoned, in a hurry so

wispy willow
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It’s just that bullets are cheap, yet we’re being dropped in with bags half full.

fast harness
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i feel like the monsters are those left behined

solid tiger
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its set in the future with "futuristic" weapons, you dont know the bullet prices XD

fast harness
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bullets are made out of paper, cant you tell by the damage>

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gtfo-32 for a game if anyones interested

late oasis
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Whoever sends the convicts down there A: knows exactly what the fuck is going on down there and B: knows the prisoners more than likely wont get out alive. They send them in like scouts to map the area and if lucky get the job done. If they get killed... well they got some of the area mapped and a good chunk of the infested is wiped.

vagrant spoke
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Whoever is the Warden

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s

late oasis
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Probably the guy who brings and oversees the convicts

vagrant spoke
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The place was abandoned but the wardens need DNA and stuff so they send the 4 prisoners down to get what they want. All the weapons and melee are made from old mining equipment

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So i think the key to the lore is figuring out who the Wardens are and just what are Sleepers

late oasis
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My guess on the sleepers is a parasite that infected the people. Look at their behavior. blind, rely on sounds (judging by the heartbeat i assume echo location), sensitive to light (albinism probably) and they only really move if they detected prey.

vagrant spoke
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probably experiment gone wrong, Wardens figured to cut their losses and abandoned the place to the sleepers

late oasis
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Whatever they are the source of infestation is somewhere at the bottom. and it was there for a loooong time

vagrant spoke
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Or yeah perhaps when they dug down they accidently set it loose

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and it spread too fast to be contained so they cut their losses and left hence why they need us to go down there to get things they left behind

late oasis
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Yep. shady company 101. and Like mentioned the sleepers are geared towards dark, cold and low nourishment enviroments.

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Something that would give a fuckton of answers is: how far did the infestation go?

vagrant spoke
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Not to the surface

late oasis
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Yeeeep. pretty certain they found something down there and tried to research it

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and then standart horror game company protocol gamma 5: somebody fucked up and everything went to hell

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Not that i mind though. it´s a classic

vagrant spoke
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Indeed

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I can't wait to see the next level

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Hopefully it gives us another clue

uncut ingot
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If we don't get a Hive styled level I'll be sad.

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Then again. This game is AMAZING so I won't really.

late oasis
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Let´s say it´d be a bit of a bummer

formal thunder
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what that

floral vessel
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will be for when game comes out and important info may be put there

formal thunder
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oh the devs/admins said it?

floral vessel
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no

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im just guessing

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it would make sense

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or for events

torn apex
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The state of the Earth outside?

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What we know about that?

late oasis
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Probably a dystopia. Would certainly explain the amount of prisoners aviable for those suicide runs

dull shuttle
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If you look closely the hole is set bottom-up

hybrid plover
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To me it just seems like that goofy ass gerard butler movie but underground

toxic merlin
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I still would like to belive that the disease is sea life based. Considering all the infecteds mutations

viral phoenix
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Could be some subterranean lake

wispy willow
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Wait, does it say prisoner or does it say convict? Because the two don’t mean the same thing.

last saffron
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prisoner

versed wren
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mutations seem a lot more similar to fungus to me

last saffron
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problem is, they dont display anything fungal. a fungus would replace its host tissues with itself (irl example being cordyceps as it devours its host from the inside before "blooming")

wispy willow
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Yeah, but the look and behavior is very similar to that of the zombies in The Last of Us. Right down to the husks of zombies growing into the ground and spreading out.

last saffron
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i cant really see similarities except the noise, last of us had them covered in the fungus on later stages, and hosts (yet) dont seem to root or spread any mass

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last of us were also much more sturdy than hosts, especially the uh..bloats? the big ones on account of being covered in fungal plates

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hosts in mean time almost slough off from even a pistol bullets

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except their bones, atleast on legs

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i remember shooting off the meat leaving the bone exposed with muscles still attached in certain parts

wispy willow
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In TLoU or GTFO?

last saffron
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gtfo, last of us are sturdier ' v'

wispy willow
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Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. But similar doesn’t mean exactly the same. And for me the similarities in design, combined with the dark/damp location and sensitivity to light, just screams out fungus.

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Not to mention you see dead grunt set pieces that are slowly spreading out.

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