#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 155

surreal stag Nov 8, 2020, 2:07 AM

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What's a good gpu to pair with these monitors

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Um if you're just going 1080p, save the money and look at a 1660 Super

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Like the performance difference between that and the 2060 isn't massive, they both have the same amount of VRAM too

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Otherwise, I wouldn't recommend a graphics card with less than 8gb

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Kinda dumb ig but I wonder what it'd be like trying to get a 1080 Ti atm

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Here's the thing

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Still way over 1000$ or somethin?

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 2:11 AM

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No way

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1080Ti is a 3 year old card, most of em are gonna be rung through

surreal stag Nov 8, 2020, 2:11 AM

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1080ti is currently 680$

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 2:11 AM

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$680 where?

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Oh, not bad but expensive now considering the new stuff

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 2:12 AM

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That's a terrible price

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The 5700XT at $400 is basically matching its game performance

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Yea

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And the 3070 is 500$ now

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Yeah if you can find one

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Closer to like $560 on average if I had to guess

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Double MSRP anyone? phaWesker

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molten ruin Nov 8, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Are there any laptops that can run this game good but wont decrease after a few years? getting one for school next year

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Totally would pay for that much 😎

eternal cairn Nov 8, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Not sure what you mean by "decrease". All laptops become outdated after a while in terms of specs.

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Laptops don't last super long, I would say just don't spend too much and you'll have decent performance for light gaming on the go for a while

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Most likely lol

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lmfao

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1340$ for 3080, 60$ for Cold War

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Stupidest way to sell GPUs if they're insanely overpriced but it works ig

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Ye

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Not PC, but I got game 1 to 3 of Uncharted that way when I bought my PS4

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Totally the best option I've done compared to the other two

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Eh, I was just getting a PS4 so I could gayme with friends back when I was in first year middle school

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I'm sure that the price of the console was made up for on how good the games were tbf

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 3:50 AM

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When I heard of Call of Duty Cold War, my reaction was "Wow they finally ran out of ideas."

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 3:50 AM

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But new gamme!!!!!1

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RTX!!!!

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 3:50 AM

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I mean technically a Modern Warfare remake was the start of that probably

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Is it a remake?

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Cold War isn't a remake

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Saw gameplay, had this big ass plane that wasn't in any Black Ops afaik

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 3:54 AM

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I was referring to Modern Warfare being a remake

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Cause I wasn't sure entirely if it was or if it was some kind of sequel

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Modern Warfare is more like a rework in gameplay

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 3:57 AM

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So it is a remake? phaWesker

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 3:58 AM

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ehh, imo a remake is more like MW2 remaster

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MW2019 was just more of a reworked gameplay imo

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Well no it's a remaster, it's in the name

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Well, yeah

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But a remake and remaster is same for me

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What

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 4:00 AM

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So a remaster is literally taking the same thing, and refreshing it. Like with games it would be taking an older game, maybe it wasn't HD, then making it HD. Otherwise its the same game

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A remake would be taking the original concept and rethinking it, and taking it in a different direction

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For example the Resident Evil Remake

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It follows a lot of the same story beats, it adds some extra ideas like Lisa Trevor, it massively improves the quality of everything. It's probably one of the best atmosphere Resident Evil games

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Yeah

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But MW2019 is just a rework

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Rework of what?

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Of the entire gameplay

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Seems like a way to say the same thing, but okay

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 4:05 AM

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There's a good amount of vehicles so it's more arcadey Battlefield, movements are different now so instead of trying to just spam run, you have an amount of stamina for sprint, then you have infinite running, etc.

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Maybe I could be wrong, but w/e

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 4:09 AM

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It's the same shit whatever PirateSimon

proper wren Nov 8, 2020, 4:33 AM

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doggopeek

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"We ran out of 5800xs" As there's a box of 5800x in overstock above our coworker

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 4:36 AM

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kek

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Give me a 5800X o:

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Few minutes ago, new GN video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UkGu6A-6sQ

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2 or 4 sticks of RAM PirateSimon

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For Zen 3

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 4:42 AM

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So 4x8 is the new meta 👀

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Pfft

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4x16

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😎

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 4:42 AM

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All 4 slots whatever

hollow plover Nov 8, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Pfft. 2x32, get on my level

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Gross, 2x ram sticks

hollow plover Nov 8, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Uh 2x>4x for speed

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 4:44 AM

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🤮🤮🤮🤮 2x stick 🤮🤮🤮🤮

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Oh in the video he says 2x16 performed the best

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Yeah but slots not taken up

hollow plover Nov 8, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Get 2 of the "dummy" sticks then

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That don't do anything but let you have your 4 slot fulfilment dream

abstract kite Nov 8, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Gavel 4gb 32

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Yeah but judging from video, I assumed that maybe AMD figured out how to effectively use 4 channels despite the dual channel thingy

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Surprising a bit how the 5900X performs better than the 5950X

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Taking notice, in some cases the 3950X is better than 5950X sometimes

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 6:53 AM

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Maybe

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I assume the 5900X is like 500-550$ and the 5950X is like 750$ or some shit?

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Alright, so it is 550$ and 800$

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Worthless spend to go for 4 more cores except production blah blah

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 8:41 AM

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remember when top of the line GPUs costed $300?

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pepperidge farm remembers

jade ermine Nov 8, 2020, 8:56 AM

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tomorrow starts week number 8 with no GPU delivery 😄 Paper launches suck so much.

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Better than no GPU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UkGu6A-6sQ&ab_channel=GamersNexus

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Pretty interesting. Apparently 4 memory sticks instead of 2 has perfromance benefit on zen3 lol

winged stag Nov 8, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Why?

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Uh Why what?

jade ermine Nov 8, 2020, 3:36 PM

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GPU fan go BRRRRR

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another reason to use hwinfo

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 4:16 PM

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just go water

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Do they even make water blocks for 1650 Supers? phaWesker

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 4:43 PM

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they do for 1060s

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but can't find any for 1650

winged stag Nov 8, 2020, 4:47 PM

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It's a windforce OC and I heard that is a problem with them

merry bay Nov 8, 2020, 4:52 PM

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1060's were already easy to cool, surprised they had waterblocks for 'em Thonk

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:01 PM

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The 1060 is a 130w card right? So that's just weird

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Oh its 120w, well close enough

winged stag Nov 8, 2020, 5:02 PM

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I've never seen my card go above 70. Before I had the one I have now, I had a single fan 1650 super and it would sit at like 85

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:03 PM

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My RX580 draws quite a bit more than that, probably like 170w at most at a game load. And with the stock fan curve the hottest it will get is like around 72, averages like 60ish or so

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So just a bad cooler phaSheva

winged stag Nov 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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The 580 draws that much?\

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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170w is nothing

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Polaris just isn't as efficient as Pascal, and the 580 is pretty much just an overclocked 480

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Kepler says hi

winged stag Nov 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I never knew the 580 drew that much, I thought it would draw like 100-120

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I could get it to draw as little as that with an undervolt and underclock I suppose

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Make it a 480 pretty much phaWesker

winged stag Nov 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Nvidia can give a card around the same performance for like 70 watts less

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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They did with Pascal yeah

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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nvidia can also create Thermi

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Oh I never heard it called Thermi that's funny phaWesker

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Ampere aka Ampwhere hit a new record though PirateSimon

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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ampere is just tesla?

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or entire 3000 series

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Ampere is the architecture for RTX 3000 yeah

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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right

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i don't know if it's a new record really

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i saw 300w figures

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Well as far as consumer cards, the 3090 being at base 350w

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That's pretty toasty I gotta say

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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a bit more than one overclocked 770 would draw in peak

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my 770 SLI could hit 300w peak per card

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and people with unlocked bios could get them up to 450

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on the beefiest boards

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I think the 3090 is doing over 400w with an overclock, what little you can overclock anyway. They're right next to the wall from what I understand

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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yeah they're pushed to the limit from factory

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which I really don't like personally

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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It's what Radeon traditionally does, weird to see Nvidia doing that

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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radeon and their traditionally failing GPUs

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trol

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Well I suppose more so they push the voltages higher than they have to do or something like that phaSheva

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I still avoid ASUS/AMD combo like fire

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they clocked the R7 so high that like half of the cards would artifact out of the box

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there was even official thread on asus forums

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Asus is weird phaSip

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I just know I'm going Intel/Nvidia for my next build

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bought ryzen because intel is clowning with 14nm

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but it's just a pain in the ass

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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So whenever Intel puts out Alder Lake I guess? They don't seem all that worth it until then from what I can tell

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:22 PM

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don't plan to upgrade anything but the GPU for next 5-6 years

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last build lasted me 7 years and I hope i can get the same out of this one

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Yeah, Intel isn't going to be any good unless they stop fucking with 14nm

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And Ryzen works perfectly fine for me

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At least my 3700X does

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:22 PM

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my 3700x is a bitch with voltages

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idles at 1.4v default

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I probably am not really seeing that lol

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:23 PM

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i noticed something very wrong because it was idling at desktop

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at 50c

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on god damn water

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turns out if you undervolt it by 0.0025v

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it drops from 1.4v idle to 1.1v idle

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probably asus bios being as amazing as usual

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 5:25 PM

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The motherboard manufacturers are clock and voltage crazy

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"Screw stock speeds, we'll just boost everything out the box without you knowing about it!"

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 5:25 PM

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clueless

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also loves boosting all cores for a second for no apparent reason

fleet canopy Nov 8, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Hm.

gritty timber Nov 8, 2020, 6:48 PM

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changing power plans never worked for me along with all the ryzen master bullshit

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you can change, save

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and if you reopen the window

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it will be back to the old one

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or go intel and don't have to fiddle with this

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in 7 years of using intel and overclocking the shit out of it

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i never had to jump through so many hoops

jade ermine Nov 8, 2020, 9:15 PM

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My ryzen idles at around 35-45C with loop too. That's normal because smoll hot chiplets.
Voltages up to 1.5V are normal due boosting behaviour

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Mine idles at like 32 - 35C on air phaSheva

abstract kite Nov 8, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Mine idles about 35-45c as well Ryzen 7 3700x

nimble anvil Nov 8, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Finally got a 3080

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Took long enough

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Well, it'll be delivered tomorrow

vapid crypt Nov 8, 2020, 11:58 PM

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I heard people are starting to be able to get the RTX 3000 cards finally... hmmm Tom was right huh? phaWesker

nimble anvil Nov 8, 2020, 11:59 PM

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I think it's mostly MSI and Zotac cards that are coming in stock

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Maybe Gigabyte too

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Looks like the Asus and other brands are a bit tough to get still

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There's also this thing

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Whatever the hell that is

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Nice

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Hope it performs good and doesn't give you shit for years

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Yeah, hopefully. I'll probably upgrade when a TI comes out though

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Or maybe just wait till the 4000 series

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If a 3080ti does come out, I doubt it's gonna be that good considering the 3090 is only slightly better than the 3080

vapid crypt Nov 9, 2020, 12:05 AM

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The 3080Ti will be a 3090 with 3080 bandwidth

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So add 5 - 8% performance at 4k PirateSimon

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Oh and I guess 20gb of Vram, so it'll just be hotter on top of that

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Unless they have 2gb chips of GDDR6X finally

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Ahh okay. Hmm, not too bad. Although not sure if it'd be worth selling a 3080 for.

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Don't really want the extra heat and power consumption either

vapid crypt Nov 9, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Well there's already evidence of games needing 12gb of Vram PirateSimon

sick reef Nov 9, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Gaming on 4k

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Damn

sick reef Nov 9, 2020, 12:08 AM

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monakS

vapid crypt Nov 9, 2020, 12:08 AM

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That is at maxed out 4k though to be fair

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Not sure how that effects me, as I game at 1440p, but wide 1440

vapid crypt Nov 9, 2020, 12:09 AM

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1440 ultra wide would probably be fine I think

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Ah nice

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I hope so

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I don't think you'd have to upgrade your GPU

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It's a huge improvement compared to last year, but you can just undervolt it and it'll perform similar to stock 3080

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 12:10 AM

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I mean, the 2080ti is running like a dream. So a 3080 is gonna kill it I suppose

sick reef Nov 9, 2020, 12:10 AM

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More pixels directly means more VRAM usage.

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Ah yeah. I'll see when it comes out. I do like to have the latest, which is a bit stupid of me sometimes as it is costly

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I can't wait for Cyberpunk

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So hyped for it

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Been playing Watch Dogs Legion to keep me going till then

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 12:39 AM

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I need a new game to pass the time

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But I'm now just playing BO2 to 100% the multiplayer

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Don't care for zombies cause lol it kinda sucks

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And campaign is pretty shit

rancid kindle Nov 9, 2020, 1:15 AM

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hey guys are there any good deals on a monitor? (in Canada)

rancid kindle Nov 9, 2020, 1:47 AM

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I was thinking of getting this on black friday https://www.amazon.ca/ViewSonic-XG270-Lighting-Advanced-Ergonomics/dp/B07VL5SNG8/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=viewsonic+elite+xg270&qid=1604884728&sr=8-1

vapid crypt Nov 9, 2020, 1:55 AM

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That seems rather overpriced huh? Even if it does go on sale for 50% off

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But I guess for a really good esports tier monitor phaSheva

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 2:00 AM

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I mean, it does seem a bit much

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But uhh

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tbh 300$CND ain't bad for that

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https://www.amazon.ca/Samsung-LC27RG50FQNXZA-Curved-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B07TGMC29J/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=1080p+240Hz&qid=1604887313&sr=8-10

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470$CND but it's 4ms

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https://www.amazon.ca/Asus-VG279QM-Monitor-ELMB-SYNC-DisplayHDR400/dp/B0845QFDVM/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=1080p+240Hz&qid=1604887313&sr=8-13 on sale now

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retail for 530$, on sale rn for 475$

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https://www.amazon.ca/Acer-XF250Q-Cbmiiprx-FREESYNC-Technology/dp/B07G3GRFSZ/ref=sr_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=1080p+240Hz&qid=1604887313&sr=8-15 here's another, but it's TN for 400$ retail

errant ferry Nov 9, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Anyone know how many cores GTFO utilizes? monkahmm

vapid crypt Nov 9, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Never tested it phaSheva

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The game was originally developed on 4th gen Intel I7s though

young verge Nov 9, 2020, 2:24 AM

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You oh snap was it really?

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I’ve always wondered what PCs devs use for games etc

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 2:25 AM

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High end ones PirateSimon

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But they just want it to be optimized to be playable on mid range from 2015

vapid crypt Nov 9, 2020, 2:32 AM

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This effectively starting as a small independent venture, they used the tools they had. A bunch of midrange PCs from 2015 and Unity

rancid kindle Nov 9, 2020, 2:50 AM

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how about this one https://www.amazon.ca/BenQ-EX2780Q-Monitor-Channel-Metallic/dp/B07X51X3CB/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=BENQ+ex2780&qid=1604890143&sr=8-1

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$50 off rn

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ouuuu or this https://www.amazon.ca/S3220DGF-Monitor-Piatto-Pixel-Curvo/dp/B07XTVYDC3/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dell+s3220dgf&qid=1604890394&s=electronics&sr=1-1

lilac geyser Nov 9, 2020, 2:57 AM

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rice: I like the hardware unboxed channel on youtube, they do good monitor reviews

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Huh, thought you wanted to go for 240Hz

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Well, at least 1080p 240Hz

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But anyways

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I heard this one was very good for its price @rancid kindle https://www.amazon.ca/LG-27GL83A-B-27-Inch-Led-Lit-14700510/dp/B07YGZL8XF/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=27GL83A-B&qid=1604891156&s=electronics&sr=1-1

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One of the best in its price point at least

rancid kindle Nov 9, 2020, 3:07 AM

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my guy i know nothing about monitors lmao i just googled "best monitors" and saw these on sale

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ouuu ok

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 3:07 AM

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lmao

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So what's your PC specs then

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I think you'll be a bit disappointed that you won't run 1440p 144hz or 1080p 240Hz

rancid kindle Nov 9, 2020, 3:09 AM

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fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Ah, alright

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https://www.amazon.ca/Acer-FREESYNC-Technology-XFA240-bmjdpr/dp/B06ZYHZ6R6/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=1080p+144hz+TN&qid=1604891573&sr=8-3 1080p 144hz TN
https://www.amazon.ca/VG259Q-Gaming-Monitor-FreeSync-DisplayPort/dp/B0817JCFJN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=1080p+144hz+IPS&qid=1604891450&s=electronics&sr=1-2 1080p 144hz IPS

errant ferry Nov 9, 2020, 5:31 AM

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I'd go for at least IPS monitors as they have been getting cheaper as it seems thisIsfine (depends on your budget ofc)

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 5:31 AM

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ig so

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But it's still kind of on the expensive side

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Like I don't want to pay like 380-500$ for some 1440p 144hz VA/IPS but it's there so lol

errant ferry Nov 9, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Well, there are early Flack Briday deals maybe you can find some decent IPS 144Hz 1440p monitors

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funkyparrot

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Eh, atm I don't have enough money to pay for one lol

errant ferry Nov 9, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Thought I thought I saw a IPS 1080p 240hz (oc to 280Hz) monitor for like 270

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pogchamp

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I wish I could get the G7

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...without the stupid fucking curve

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Like I don't mind curved monitors, but curved on like any monitor below 30" is just, ehh

errant ferry Nov 9, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Seems unnecessary...

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monkahmm

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Yeah, way unnecessary

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I just want a flat screen 1440p 240Hz cause lol

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VA though, I heard it has shit ghosting

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Or just noticeable ghosting which is there, but not bad

errant ferry Nov 9, 2020, 5:52 AM

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I thought ghosting has to do mainly with Hz and how fast the monitor changes from one pixel to the next

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I thought some of the LG monitors do well?

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pepethink

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Not their IPS ones that I'm looking to get

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At least

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They're good quality and are pretty great for the price

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VA just appears to be an invitation for ghosting

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TN is like "haha what's ghosting" or something like that ig

abstract kite Nov 9, 2020, 8:13 AM

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I mean 1440p is where you get the big price bump

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 9:41 AM

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Yeah, seems weird that they put curve on regular width monitors. But if the g7 is the same panel and specs as the g9, I'd really recommend it.

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The 1440p with 240hz is insane

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Although I hardly ever hit 240 fps unless it's a competitive game that's designed to run well

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1440p is perfect, 240hz is a little overkill, but can't complain. Apart from the price lol

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 12:49 PM

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I did not expect to get one of these before 2021

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It just arrived

vapid crypt Nov 9, 2020, 12:59 PM

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So the rumors a few weeks ago was there would be around 300k 3080s shipping out in November, but that got cut to around half a couple weeks after apparently

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Since they're making that 3080Ti right phaSheva

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Keep the 980Ti as back up and try to recoup the 2080Ti PirateSimon

jade ermine Nov 9, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Yea this waiting is pretty lame. Ordered on launch day and still no info about availability

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Already sold my 980ti.
I should be able to get more money for my 2080ti than I paid as they're selling for more on Ebay than I paid

old patrol Nov 9, 2020, 3:55 PM

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<@&408548765599793173> in here

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Why?

old patrol Nov 9, 2020, 3:57 PM

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A guy said bad words to the devs

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Ahh okay

coral plume Nov 9, 2020, 4:01 PM

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mostly spam

fleet canopy Nov 9, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Nice @nimble anvil

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How is it?

dawn crown Nov 9, 2020, 9:09 PM

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my speakers arnt working right now on my headphones do you know how to fix that?

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 9:51 PM

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It's amazing

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Crazy to be able to max out games at high FPS

vapid crypt Nov 9, 2020, 9:57 PM

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https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-6800-50-faster-geforce-rtx-3090-at-crypto-mining-rumor/

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6800 faster than the 3090 at crypto mining 👀

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Also alleged AMD retail box imaged phaSheva

nimble anvil Nov 9, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Now for the 6000 cards to be harder to get than the 3000 series.

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Crypto mining has already made high end gaming expensive. Now it's gonna happen again 😢

vapid crypt Nov 9, 2020, 10:23 PM

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From what I understand, literally the only crypto currency that is still worth mining with GPUs is Etherium

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And in December that's not going to be possible anymore

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So this may be a non issue, generally for people now if gpu mining isn't virtually free in terms of energy cost it isn't worth it

fleet canopy Nov 10, 2020, 5:50 PM

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The only crypto mining should be doing is mining for crypts underground

lime field Nov 10, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Ok so my gpu(1060) was running fine all this time until I downloaded this software called NZXT Cam. Now that app had some simplified overclocking options which I tinkered with which gave me a good performance boost. Now fast forward a week , my pc while gaming started to become unstable and because I dont remember the default levels I just delete nzxt cam and download the official Gigabyte gpu software but now after doing all that the fans dont seem to be working properly. Either its spinning at a specified speed or its not spinning at all. I cant get it to spin with the temperature sensor like how it was out of the box . Anyone have any clue? Very stressed about this.

jade ermine Nov 10, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Got to fill up all my slots today! 3600c14 32gb

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elder sonnet Nov 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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jade ermine Nov 10, 2020, 6:41 PM

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It's two 2x8gb 3200C14 kits and its overclocked to 3600C14-15-14-30

elder sonnet Nov 10, 2020, 6:44 PM

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the rgb is sick

lime field Nov 10, 2020, 7:12 PM

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thanks alot

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yes indeed it was a temp threshold limit

jade ermine Nov 10, 2020, 7:15 PM

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@elder sonnet Yea these things get super bright.

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old patrol Nov 10, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Hot

nimble anvil Nov 10, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Can you change the colour to brown?

fleet canopy Nov 10, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Full on Noctua color build

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Mm

crisp token Nov 10, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Yeah brown would be comedy

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Do it

vapid crypt Nov 10, 2020, 8:54 PM

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3080 Ti launching in January https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-launching-january-2021-tackle-amd-rx-6900-xt/

fleet canopy Nov 10, 2020, 9:02 PM

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9

vapid crypt Nov 10, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I would guess the 3070 Ti would launch the same month, if not the month after phaSheva

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Oh and rumor has it the 3060 Ti will have 12gb of Vram, so its kind of weird thinking a card below the 3070 will have more Vram???

dim sundial Nov 10, 2020, 9:10 PM

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what

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???

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that wierd

vapid crypt Nov 10, 2020, 9:11 PM

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It might not be true, initial rumors set it at 8gb, but since the 6700XT will have 12 maybe they're changing things to be competitive

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It would be kind of annoying to everyone if they ended production on the 3070, and added the 3060 Ti and 3070 Ti in place. So much for excessive segmentation phaWesker

jade ermine Nov 10, 2020, 10:43 PM

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closest i got to brown

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sponsor noctua fans now ty

vapid crypt Nov 10, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Noctua Theme let's go PirateSimon

nimble anvil Nov 11, 2020, 12:27 AM

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That actually looks quite good

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Classy looking

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Almost like a rose gold

fleet canopy Nov 11, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Make it pink

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Loler

jade surge Nov 11, 2020, 1:38 AM

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man if they DO release a 3080 TI I would return my 3080 if I had one and go with someone else. Nvidia is screwing their customer base and possibly forcing them to go to AMD

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as consumers we should show nvidia who the bossis and not buy any of their cards so they lose money. Although, since most of these launches are so shitty would they reall ylose any money since no one can find the cards

lilac geyser Nov 11, 2020, 1:58 AM

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people are still waiting for their orders of current product and they announce a successor?

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their launch day orders

jade surge Nov 11, 2020, 1:59 AM

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and to top it all they are switching to TSMC 7nm node so who knows what perfance changes will occur

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did Nvidia just pull an Intel

vapid crypt Nov 11, 2020, 2:25 AM

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A node change will likely be a for a new gen

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Kinda like how Fermi had a refresh GTX 400 -> 500

merry bay Nov 11, 2020, 2:48 AM

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20GB of GDDR6X won't be at the normal 3080 prices though
A 3080ti doesn't sound that compelling, merely something you get instead of a 3090 to be slightly more sensible.
Without some price cuts I don't see it being all that desirable

jade surge Nov 11, 2020, 4:41 AM

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maybe maybe not, with the way Nvidia handled this run who really knows

jade ermine Nov 11, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Well they have not yet delivered my card after 2 months and its already going to be outdated😂

merry bay Nov 11, 2020, 12:33 PM

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https://twitter.com/RaveofRavendale/status/1326480885282058240

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clearly superior entertainment system

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imagine turning it on and the ball begins to float LULW

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probably wouldn't lift it, just keep it suspended

vapid crypt Nov 11, 2020, 2:33 PM

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What the hell is going on with Nvidia that they can't even fulfill a lot of people's order in 2 months

frozen lance Nov 11, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Scalpers.

merry bay Nov 11, 2020, 6:10 PM

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tbf it's a GPU that's better than a 2080ti and still with the scalping is cheaper than a 2080ti

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so for people that don't scan the market for MSRP's and just see a new product they don't blink about it LULW

vapid crypt Nov 11, 2020, 6:11 PM

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2080Tis are going for 3080 MSRP aren't they?

merry bay Nov 11, 2020, 6:12 PM

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3080's are cheaper at least in my area

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that's for buying new

vapid crypt Nov 11, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I believe Monkey got a 2080Ti for 700?

merry bay Nov 11, 2020, 6:13 PM

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new 2080ti's are still roughly the same huge price

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it will definitely get better once there's stock and a choice for once. Now new GPU's are like hotcakes. Get them hot or be left out to dry

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a million ways for people to justify markups instead of waiting months

vapid crypt Nov 11, 2020, 6:17 PM

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I know better than to get something fresh out of launch, but I think even after 2 months it's safe to say this wasn't a real Launch. A proper launch would see these problems next to gone after that amount of time typically

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And obviously it isn't better on AMD's end, I think Ryzen was also launched a quarter early

merry bay Nov 11, 2020, 6:18 PM

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likely pressure to not miss the holiday season sales

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whatever stock they could muster

vapid crypt Nov 11, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Sure, not much of a holiday sale when you can't get anything

merry bay Nov 11, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I've seen retailers get batches of 20-50 units, they disappear instantly. Thought it would be less tbh. Never monitored things so closely before though

vapid crypt Nov 11, 2020, 6:21 PM

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If I can get a 5700XT for around $300 I might get that, otherwise I'm planning to get a RAM upgrade and a second NVME drive phaSheva

merry bay Nov 11, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I decided the max I'll spend is 850(after taxes) for a GPU. So it's either going to be a 6800XT or 3080 once prices drop. Whichever shows up first

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I wish we had US prices, but it's always like that with tech

feral jackal Nov 11, 2020, 9:24 PM

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3060 ti is meant to release soon

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for 299$

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if you're willing to way 4-8 months

vapid crypt Nov 11, 2020, 9:57 PM

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3060 Ti for $299? I doubt it, maybe 3060

merry bay Nov 11, 2020, 10:05 PM

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wasn't the 3060Ti rumored to have more VRAM than a 3070?

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because of AMD offerings

vapid crypt Nov 11, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I'm not sure if it's the 3060Ti or if it's the 3060 actually

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Cause say the 3060 has a 192-bit bus, they could give it 12gb by using 2gb chips

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Maybe have a 6 and 12gb model

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Might come down to the AIBs at that point

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Actually that makes sense, if there's an FE model it'll probably be 6gb (Which is pretty cringe at this point) and then AIBs can make double the Vram up, I can see Nvidia allowing that

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Though they cancelled the 16gb 3070 for a reason, it's so they can make a 3070Ti

merry bay Nov 11, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Do B550 boards need bios updates for Zen3?

vapid crypt Nov 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Yeah they all should have them now

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New ones being shipped will have them updated out of the box no doubt

merry bay Nov 11, 2020, 11:31 PM

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B550 were released before Zen 3 CPU's were out, that's what prompted the thought

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after more googling, it seems a B550 board should at least be able to POST with a Zen 3 CPU, so it's not an issue figuring out where to borrow a 3000 series chip or pay the shop for the update

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interestingly, some X570 don't POST on Zen 3 out of the box

reef seal Nov 12, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Roadmap for AMD shows potential Ryzen 6000 and the new series of 7000 GPU's by 2022.

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It's not terribly far away.

vapid crypt Nov 12, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Similar gains too allegedly projected as well, this momentum is great

jade surge Nov 12, 2020, 3:34 AM

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the momentum is great if we could get some products. If we don't then it will seem as if they went from the 5700xt to the 7000 series cards

vapid crypt Nov 12, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Having nothing for the entirety of next year doesn't seem likely

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I mean in terms of stock

abstract kite Nov 12, 2020, 9:27 PM

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It is likely

lilac geyser Nov 12, 2020, 9:28 PM

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the ltt secret shopper video is an embarassment to the entire commercial pc building industry

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it is also an indicator of retail customer service in general

fleet canopy Nov 12, 2020, 9:29 PM

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How so?

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I don't think I've watched it

lilac geyser Nov 12, 2020, 9:31 PM

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watch it, one from this weekend and one today. at least 1 more to follow

merry bay Nov 12, 2020, 9:38 PM

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thanks for reassuring that there's a part 3

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prefer binging it rather than wait a week or a half

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i only recall them teasing it how companies were slacking on the WAN show, still got some waiting to do

fleet canopy Nov 12, 2020, 9:43 PM

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God, Dell fucking sucks

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Kinda interesting to see how their customer support, etc. is like

jade surge Nov 12, 2020, 9:45 PM

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are you really surprised Dell sucks

fleet canopy Nov 12, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Not really, but I didn't think they were this bad

abstract kite Nov 12, 2020, 9:49 PM

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God, Dell fucking sucks
@fleet canopy not true Dell has Alienware... Oh wait.

proper wren Nov 12, 2020, 9:50 PM

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prebuilt pcs are the same at my workplace as well. Low quality and crappy doggopeek

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but the pricing is better than other oems

proper wren Nov 12, 2020, 10:10 PM

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too many 3080 orders doggopeek

fleet canopy Nov 12, 2020, 10:11 PM

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:(

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Send 6800XT

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Most of the people don't care for AMD GPUs anyways

proper wren Nov 12, 2020, 10:11 PM

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6000 series not even in head office shipment doggopeek

fleet canopy Nov 12, 2020, 10:11 PM

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: (

proper wren Nov 12, 2020, 10:13 PM

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I see 3060ti shipments doggopeek

lilac geyser Nov 12, 2020, 11:08 PM

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stores arent carrying amd graphics cards yet because they are still waiting for recounts of benchmarks saying they beat nvidia

fleet canopy Nov 12, 2020, 11:13 PM

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loler

jade surge Nov 12, 2020, 11:57 PM

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any1 having issues with the Nvidia drivers that have been released

vapid crypt Nov 13, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Issues with Nvidia drivers? But everyone and their mama on the internet told me Nvidia drivers are infallible PirateSimon

jade surge Nov 13, 2020, 12:42 AM

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well, someone lied to you. I have system game crashes, errors with, dead by daylight, GTFO, Neverwinter and Hunt

proper wren Nov 13, 2020, 12:43 AM

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my old 2070 that I sold had extreme drive issues with those games

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Glad I went AMD doggopeek

fleet canopy Nov 13, 2020, 12:44 AM

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I haven't hit those problems yet

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There was one instance for MW2019 but that was quick fix

vapid crypt Nov 13, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I know Nvidia drivers aren't infallible, but I was making the point that most people seem to have that perception with surface level analysis

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It's easy to think that too when AMD was having so many issues be it hardware or software this past year phaSheva

proper wren Nov 13, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Intel webinar meeting is boring doggopeek

steel fable Nov 13, 2020, 3:25 AM

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rate the alienware prebuilt jundLaugh

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proper wren Nov 13, 2020, 4:03 AM

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0

static flume Nov 13, 2020, 4:05 AM

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a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 works perfectly, but a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 is recommended. life is funny.

gritty timber Nov 13, 2020, 4:08 AM

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imagine updating the drivers

shrewd relic Nov 13, 2020, 4:10 AM

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How do you guys feel about Cyberpower

gritty timber Nov 13, 2020, 4:17 AM

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poosp

shrewd relic Nov 13, 2020, 4:21 AM

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@gritty timber is that good or bad

gritty timber Nov 13, 2020, 4:30 AM

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if they haven't changed

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sketch

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just read up online

shrewd relic Nov 13, 2020, 4:37 AM

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i was just wondering your guys opinion

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i have one

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Haven't got less than like 119 fps in GTFO

gritty timber Nov 13, 2020, 5:14 AM

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fps is not a very good benchmark especially when it comes to prebuilts

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id rather have a weaker gpu/cpu than RTX3080 with 500w noname chinesium PSU

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and B450 board

abstract kite Nov 13, 2020, 5:53 AM

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You don't like B450 boards?

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Cryingeyesopen

gritty timber Nov 13, 2020, 6:12 AM

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x570 gang

fleet canopy Nov 13, 2020, 6:28 AM

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x570 gnag 😎

jade surge Nov 13, 2020, 12:10 PM

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@lilac geyser stores arent carrying AMD GPU's (atleast the new ones) because none have released yet. November 18th is when they release them to the wild

merry bay Nov 13, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Afaik stock usually arrives early, as it's often from more than one source and there's various delay possibilities. Done so to be ready for release day

jade surge Nov 13, 2020, 2:42 PM

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true, but i don't see stores getting them almost a week if not more prior. And if I am wrong then that just sux

lilac geyser Nov 13, 2020, 8:16 PM

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woosh

vapid crypt Nov 13, 2020, 8:20 PM

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I enjoyed your subtle joke PirateSimon

lilac geyser Nov 13, 2020, 8:47 PM

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the stores need to check that only LEGAL amd cards were mailed to them

torn ferry Nov 13, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Any suggestions for how to fix power going out from accidentally nudging the PSU AC power cable?

sick reef Nov 13, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Test other cables.

torn ferry Nov 13, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Is this fully seated or can it go in further?

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bright shard Nov 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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probably

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though, if i have to put more than 15 lbs of force and it does not move, its probably fully seated

torn ferry Nov 13, 2020, 9:15 PM

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I just pushed a bit further.

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bright shard Nov 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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that looks a lot better

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sometimes they're a bit snug and need a bit more force. they rarely ever go in all the way

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kinda helps for getting them out

vapid crypt Nov 13, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Nvidia is suggesting that they can do something similar to SAM as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MHylMtftpY

gritty timber Nov 13, 2020, 10:43 PM

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yeah it won't go in fully but that first pic is definitely not seated right

merry bay Nov 13, 2020, 10:48 PM

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they were busy figuring out how to monetize it, but today they feel generous and will enable it in the next drivers monkaHmm

vapid crypt Nov 13, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Well if it's even halfway accurate, I hope this means AMD is smart and makes this work with older chipsets and CPUs then

gritty timber Nov 13, 2020, 11:23 PM

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ok maybe someone here will have an idea cause i ran out of them all

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/605995108822810624/775017999684861952/2020-11-08_15-24-06.mp4

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my games run at locked 60/75fps

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as you can see frametime is rock solid

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but there's insane stutter

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i think i've tried everything barring windows reinstall

fleet canopy Nov 13, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Maybe it's the game

gritty timber Nov 13, 2020, 11:26 PM

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frame limiter

fleet canopy Nov 13, 2020, 11:26 PM

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You could try enabling 0.1% lows and 0.01% lows and see what that says

gritty timber Nov 13, 2020, 11:26 PM

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it was fine before and started doing it out of the blue

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I ran frame limiter at 62fps ever since and no stuttering

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via game settings

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now it's doing that no matter what it's set to

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guess I'll try it disabled

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and limit fps via nvidia panel

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why would I want my GPU shitting out 100+ frames unnecessarily

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i'm pretty sure it does that with frame limiter off as well

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but let me recheck

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already reinstalled and nuked inis

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no dice

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suure

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i've been playing this game since 2016

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everything cleared out

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mate you don't need to treat me like i'm 5 or computer illiterate

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why would i come here asking for help without doing all the basic troubleshooting

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i do know and i'm certain I nuked them all

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clean installation on another partition

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and nuked all config files

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documents and appdata

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game

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windows reinstall would be a last resort

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as I said settings/ini files and actual game files were all deleted.

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restored NVCP settings as well

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minus driver reinstall

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steam launch options are cleared out and I've never used them for this game

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w/o frame limiter frametime is within 1ms, no spikes

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but for some reason it still feels notchy as hell

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does win10 LTSC even have game mode

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ok it doesn't

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fps is not the problem

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microstutter

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look closely at the background

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or trees

bright shard Nov 13, 2020, 11:44 PM

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or, y'know, the frametime thats going bananas

gritty timber Nov 13, 2020, 11:46 PM

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does the exact same thing with frame limiter and frametime sitting flat like a table

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don't think it's gonna do much but let's try

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i wonder if it's screen tearing looking like microstutter

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i think i found the culprit

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windows desktop manager

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yep

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motherf-

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it goes away when using exclusive fullscreen

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https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance-winpc/desktop-window-manager-dwm-microstutter-during/72b799f7-a220-46e1-aa9f-5a4b853b7051

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looks like not the first one either

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full screen with 3 monitors is suicide

merry bay Nov 13, 2020, 11:58 PM

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that's why I'm still on a single monitor, supposedly windows 2004 made it act up a lot less often, but waiting for that to be more stable

gritty timber Nov 13, 2020, 11:59 PM

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once you go 3 you cannot go back

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especially for workstation uses

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well "workstation" is a very broad term

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i built my pc for gaming but also use it as workstation for 3d modeling and game modding

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so three monitors is a must imo

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why's that

gritty timber Nov 14, 2020, 12:29 AM

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you mean like tech support?

native path Nov 14, 2020, 1:39 AM

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need 1 for c1

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https://discord.gg/HFRCjMJB

proper wren Nov 14, 2020, 3:16 AM

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?t lfg

odd portalBOT Nov 14, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

proper wren Nov 14, 2020, 3:16 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada/comments/jtugfr/canada_computers_manager_caught_scalping_part_ii/ hmm

fleet canopy Nov 14, 2020, 3:17 AM

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loler

echo venture Nov 14, 2020, 10:43 AM

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I keep getting this ?

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proper wren Nov 14, 2020, 4:25 PM

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nu

sage elm Nov 14, 2020, 8:38 PM

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@abstract kite I feel that. Had some older dude come in because he reset his internet browser

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But I like pc work. I get all the nerds

jade surge Nov 15, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Hell, yall got it easier than I do. I am a supervisor for a Government Help Desk and Government workers are not the brightest. It's as if once they get to work they forget how to even turn on a computer

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I had a hardware Tech that did not know how to map a printer or networka share folder

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I been working on, around and with PC as far back as I can remember. Hell I remember using IBM's and playing Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy as well as Oregon Trail. Helping the Computer Lab work on and fixing the i386 and 486.

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The last 5-10 years has been great for DIYer's

bright shard Nov 15, 2020, 2:52 AM

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i hate that printer drivers are sometimes a crapshoot

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im glad i hooked up my printer to the network instead of a windows share

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i really like that sometimes it takes yearrs for a printer to get support on a new operating system.
although now adays it seems we have sweeping windows crosscompat 7+

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i was only average skill during xp, started getting better during vista

jade surge Nov 15, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Man I loved XP but i tried XP 64and it was complete trash. No one supported it Driver wise so it failed right out the gate

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My favorite OS was Millennium Edition

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gotta love those constant random crashes

restive garnet Nov 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Unpopular opinion, i actually thoroughly enjoyed working on windows 8

fleet canopy Nov 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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I think many liked Win 8

restive garnet Nov 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Well, more like guilty pleasure

fleet canopy Nov 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Mostly like regular people did

restive garnet Nov 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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And more like 8.1

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It lost some of the more advanced points of 7 and 10, but everything was right at your fingertips

fleet canopy Nov 15, 2020, 5:22 AM

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My favorite was Windows Server 2012

restive garnet Nov 15, 2020, 5:22 AM

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I still use that tbh

fleet canopy Nov 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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You use Windows Server 2012? 😳

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How's it like in gaming? PirateSimon

restive garnet Nov 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Wouldnt know, i dont use it for gaming

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Well, not per say

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I use it to host game servers

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Gotta say, the overheads are ridiculously small

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Really gets you the most out of a low spec system

fleet canopy Nov 15, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Yeah, I was just joking about it

bright shard Nov 15, 2020, 5:57 AM

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i find 10 difficult to tweak

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and i dont like how they changed window snap which irritates me with multimonitors

gritty timber Nov 15, 2020, 6:17 AM

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XP was the superior OS

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7 was relatively good

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10 knows better than you what you can or cannot do with your computer

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god I hate it so much give me 7 back

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10 LTSC is bearable but it's still a major pain in the ass sometimes

proper wren Nov 15, 2020, 7:11 AM

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"Windows Me"

north bronze Nov 15, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Ordered myself an HP Reverb G2

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Can't wait to finally get into VR game dev and also play HL: Alyx

jade ermine Nov 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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I had Rift S. Beat saber was my small addiction

restive garnet Nov 15, 2020, 7:15 PM

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I keep looking at the index and vive pro, and get sad because the index is better and cheaper than the vive, but doesnt ship to NZ :(

merry bay Nov 15, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Buddy went for an Index, got his old Ocuclus Rift CV1 on the cheap. VR for under 200€ doesn't seem at all upsetting anymore.

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Sudden desires for a bigger room...

abstract kite Nov 15, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Is it a bad idea to over clock my GPU for GTFO. I'm trying to stop the stuttering and freezing when I load chunks or rooms

finite violet Nov 15, 2020, 11:13 PM

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You can blame the game for that, there's likely nothing you can really do about it.

vapid crypt Nov 15, 2020, 11:31 PM

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What are your specs anyway?

abstract kite Nov 16, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Rx 570 and a Ryzen 5 1400

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 1:27 AM

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What are your RAM speeds?

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And are you using dual channel memory, because that's very important for Ryzen first gen

torn ferry Nov 16, 2020, 2:31 AM

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What is the reason 6 of my fans won't respond to color changing in iCue?

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The second Lighting Node Core is not being recognized in iCue.

abstract kite Nov 16, 2020, 3:00 AM

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@torn ferry Do you have the ICUE Hub that uses the Power Connector that is also used for HDD's and SSD's?

torn ferry Nov 16, 2020, 3:01 AM

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It's the Lighting Node Core.

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One connector goes to a 9 pin USB port, the other goes to SATA.

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I connected it to the Commander Pro.

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The fans light up, but it's stuck on white.

merry bay Nov 16, 2020, 3:48 AM

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📎 gaming_laptop_users.mp4

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Yes

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But but

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What about the Ryzen 4000 ones? @merry bay

merry bay Nov 16, 2020, 3:58 AM

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iirc the bulk of the heat is the GPU crying for cooler air

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Yeah

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There was a laptop that was sorta bulky af

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But it was because you could move the keyboard part back and it'd reveal two fans underneath

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Not a bad idea

merry bay Nov 16, 2020, 4:01 AM

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monkaHmm

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Kinda eager to see what's the next offering for laptop graphics , been a while since discrete laptop GPU's had something new

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doubt I'd get something like that though. For on-the-go battery life is king

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 4:04 AM

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The APUs from AMD are pretty much the best balance for performance/battery life

foggy chasm Nov 16, 2020, 1:20 PM

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anyone know a good Forum to get some help for PC crashes that at this point have to be software related?

torn ferry Nov 16, 2020, 3:04 PM

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So why isn't my second Lighting Node Core being recognized?

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Everything was working before I moved the computer to a new desk.

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 4:53 PM

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6800/XT unboxings 👀 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K48-nO441pg

muted plaza Nov 16, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I recommend waiting

jade ermine Nov 16, 2020, 5:15 PM

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2 days for reviews

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interesting

torn ferry Nov 16, 2020, 5:51 PM

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The fans still spin and light up, but it's stuck on white.

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Fam, I'm starting to build my PC. I already have a 1k W power supply, the THOR tower case, and hopefully an RTX 2070 if my mom buys an upgrade once AMD gets off their arse this December. What motherboards should I be looking to pair with this for 1440p 120+fps gaming at near max settings?

Also: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Doominator10/saved/

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@ me please

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 8:27 PM

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A 1000W PSU...?

gritty timber Nov 16, 2020, 8:27 PM

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ryzen 3900x
b550
5700xt

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 8:27 PM

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With a 2070?

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A 1000W PSU...?

gritty timber Nov 16, 2020, 8:27 PM

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you ok there buddy

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ryzen 3900x
b550
5700xt

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ryzen 3900x
b550
5700xt

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Stupid message didn't get sent

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Hate discord

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I wish my mom would buy me a monitor 😔

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Or even admitted that I was adopted

gritty timber Nov 16, 2020, 8:33 PM

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who put this build together

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 8:44 PM

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I can't tell

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He said he had a fucking 1000W and 2070

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But he just has a 650W and 5700XT on main, "Future build" is just 850W and 3080

gritty timber Nov 16, 2020, 8:45 PM

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3900x on B board concerns me more

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that's just burning money

merry bay Nov 16, 2020, 8:59 PM

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there are plenty of capable B550 boards for 12 cores monkaHmm

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:10 PM

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tis my money, i I know little/nothing about hardware

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And what about the 2070?

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why is 3900x on a b board bad (I'm asking for what motherboards would be good here in the first place)

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and yes I do have a 1000w power supply. I don't know where my mom conjured that up from but she just had one casually laying around

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unopened

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Mmiiiiight be older than the 650W then

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The 5700XT and the 2070 Super performs exactly the same

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You'd get nothing out of it except RTX

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You're better off paying for a 6800XT if you want to stay with AMD but have ray tracing or whatever

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:23 PM

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That assumes that one will be available and not perpetually sold out

gritty timber Nov 16, 2020, 9:24 PM

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3900x is completely overkill for gaming in the first place

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:24 PM

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why, and then what isnt?

gritty timber Nov 16, 2020, 9:25 PM

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most games can barely utilize 4 cores properly let alone 8 or 12

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:25 PM

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I mean, it is, but when it's 1080p, ain't so bad

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True

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:25 PM

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I'm looking to run at 1440p

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:25 PM

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If you don't already have a 3900X, get a 5800X instead

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If you have any AMD GPU, go with a 6700XT/6800XT

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:26 PM

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the same 5800x's that are sold out?

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Uhhh

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Yeah lol

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:26 PM

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mmhmm

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I'm trying to have a build ready by the end of december

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:27 PM

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So what do you already have

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I already have the Thor tower, and a 1k W power supply.

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:27 PM

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So everything else you don't already have yet

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:27 PM

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IF my mom can upgrade her video card, then I'll get a rtx 2070

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right

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:28 PM

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And honestly, I think you're better with sticking to your 650W unless you do not have that either

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:28 PM

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I don't have a 650W

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Alright

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:28 PM

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is there a problem with using the 1kW?

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that I shoudl know about?

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Nah, not really. Just that if you have a PSU that's 650W or above, you're probably better off using that if the 1000W is like at least 5 years or more older

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Because older ones tend to be not too stable as it ages, but I could be wrong

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:30 PM

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uhhh how do I check the date on the psu, and hpw unstable are we talking exactly?

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Mate he said he didn't know anything about tech

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I think he just has a little idea of what the new(er) stuff are

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Cause Ryzen has been said a million times, Ryzen 5000 has seen a lot of attention literally everywhere and so have Ryzen 3000

gritty timber Nov 16, 2020, 9:31 PM

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how many games on the ps5

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that aren't re-releases

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:31 PM

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That's the real question

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~~Probably only like 3~~

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Or at least up to 8 cores

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Not everyone got more than 8

gritty timber Nov 16, 2020, 9:32 PM

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we had over 4 cores for how long

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Since a little before Ryzen I think

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For general obviously easy to buy stuff

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Intel is a disappointment now in many ways ☺️

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ye

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At least Intel is still uhh

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Maybe they're still reliable I guess

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Since Ryzen was funky, but AMD has improved so much since first Ryzen

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Especially with GPUs I hope for RX 6000

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Ye

gritty timber Nov 16, 2020, 9:34 PM

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you do you

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i wanted to get a 3900x too

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settled for 3700x and it's more than enough

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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more than enough 'FOR WHAT' specifically

gritty timber Nov 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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and I didn't burn a hole in my wallet

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I mean, I wanted something other than 7700K kek

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7700K didn't seem to handle more than 2 days uptime anymore

gritty timber Nov 16, 2020, 9:36 PM

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both gaming and workstation (3d modeling mainly)

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i never said go for 4

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that would be dumb

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Yeah, it's best going with 8 cores ig

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I wish to include a B550 with a 5800X but "BIOS update"

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And as seen, Doominator isn't too bright with tech

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Line Us Sex Tips: Don't try to go for the newest things. They're not going to be too much more better usually

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Wonder if he prefers NVIDIA or AMD, hm.

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RTX is meh still to this day

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I guess it's more available, but it's not like it's increasing in crazy amounts

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Wonder when I can pay for a 500$ monitor for just 300$

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Oh right, RX 6000 still hasn't released

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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So I joined the Newegg Discord a while ago, and I'm starting to regret it

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fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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I guess it's cause of when it released

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I mean

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You gotta handle all that rendered porn- I mean simulation at one point

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So I wonder if I should just tell the guy to wait for a 6800XT or recommend a 3070

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Oh yeah there was this other guy that allegedly got a 3090 and was asking if he could get 100fps on Fortnite with it

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:42 PM

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lmfao wtf

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I mean

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16K gaming might give him 100FPS

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honestly no, 4K might give him like 150FPS

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Or way more idfk

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Fortnite is so demanding for some fucked reason

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Can't run that on my phone, but PUBG mobile works lol

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:45 PM

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yeah no I'm not going to be trying to do 100fps fortnite

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:46 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3LQPV

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Three monitors are just my recommendations of choices o:

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Those are some pricey options

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:46 PM

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There is a 400$ IPS for that LG though, if you want

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:GWworkshopAkaShrug:

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Fucking goddamnit it's still dead

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I'm looking more for 90-120fps MHW/DOOM:E/Cyberpunk when it eventually gets released)/Warframe if it ever gets good again/Soul Cal VI at 1440p as the high end for my gaming needs

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:47 PM

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If he can pay for a PC such as this, why not just spend nicely on a monitor?

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I don't think my other games need or will reach that graphics level

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:47 PM

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3080/6800XT is basically asking for easy 1440p 144hz on high

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Maybe not too much for Cyberpunk, idk what that'll be like

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:48 PM

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and both those series of cards are likely going to be completely sold out

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 9:48 PM

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the 6800XT does better at 1440p technically, at least going by what we know so far

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Eh, I expect AMD to handle the whole GPU thing fine

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 9:48 PM

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It'll be just as hard as getting a Ryzen chip tbh

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:49 PM

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And yeah, not in raytracing, it does pretty good especially when the RTX 3000 didn't seem to do well in 1080p 1440p

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Takes patience to attain such things c:

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 9:49 PM

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We don't know how well it does at raytracing technically

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There's a leaked benchmark of the 6800 and without the 3070 using DLSS it's faster than it

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:49 PM

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eh, even if raytracing wasn't too spectacular, it'll more than likely should give you 1440p 144hz on many multiplayer games

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Not raytracing 1440p 144hz ofc,

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Just normal DX11-12 gaming

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Or whatever people use

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 9:51 PM

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The 6800 is gonna be a hell of a card I think, 2.5ghz overclock should easily put it close to the 3080

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I found the prev order for that power supply: its only a year old btw

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Oh nice

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Wonder about the date of the PSU's release tho

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I'm sure it'll be fine anyways

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Damn

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Time to get myself the monitor

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Don't care what people say 😤😤😤 I'm getting it

void perch Nov 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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So I joined the Newegg Discord a while ago, and I'm starting to regret it
@vapid crypt only casuals have that low ram.

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fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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c:

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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👀

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Lets try this again, since there seemed to be some confusion when I posted an old link. What do I need for 1440p ~120fps gaming, GIVEN that I already have these: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Doominator10/saved/#view=YxhH23

Note: The graphics card is more of a firm maybe, might need to buy another one. Since the newest gen graphics cards are probably getting sold out, I'm not looking at them for now. I want this ready by the end of december

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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LG bad at signal process lag for OLED o:

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Goal is for high-ultra settings on stuff like MHW/Doom/Cyberpunk when it comes out/ etc

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extreme solitaire might be pushing it though

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 10:05 PM

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The case has a shitload of preinstalled fans

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One for each side of the case lmao

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It's pretty much a case for a big ass 3090 or two ig lmfao

celest horizon Nov 16, 2020, 10:07 PM

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ye, thats why I figured I wouldn't need an extra cooler

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Help I'm going crazy

📎 9c6625b38414cb45758e9208bb929687.png

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So I'd love to explain the nuances of bottlenecking

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But the layman just wouldn't get it

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Cause there's always a bottleneck technically, it's just a matter of what's more optimal

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Just tell him that he should get 2070 Super

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How in the fuck is someone like him getting a 3700X and is also getting a 1070

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like wtf

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I'll check it out myself cause lol

vapid crypt Nov 16, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Upgrading from a 980 as well, I mean technically that's fine but weird. Not too many times you hear of someone going down a tier in graphics card even if it is still faster

fleet canopy Nov 16, 2020, 11:16 PM

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kekw

fleet canopy Nov 17, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Or 6700XT

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Still better than a 5700XT loler

vapid crypt Nov 17, 2020, 12:55 AM

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AOTS 6800XT benchmarks https://twitter.com/TUM_APISAK/status/1328290279783235586 👀

fleet canopy Nov 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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How is it that a 6800XT is beating a 3090 in 4K or whatever 0x0 is

vapid crypt Nov 17, 2020, 1:14 AM

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The resolution bugged out on the table I'm guessing

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The 1080 table has the same issue

sick reef Nov 17, 2020, 7:55 AM

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People hear bottlenecking as if it's supposed to mean anything.

jade ermine Nov 17, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Zero hype left for the 3080 i ordered. Probably going to cancel the order and get something better next year.

lusty aurora Nov 17, 2020, 1:19 PM

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what my GTFO DOING?

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void perch Nov 17, 2020, 1:54 PM

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looks like you're in windowed mode with the window at an odd size. can you try alt tabbing out and resizing it?

vapid crypt Nov 17, 2020, 1:56 PM

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No hype for 3080, why what happened? phaSheva

jade ermine Nov 17, 2020, 3:12 PM

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January - Feb delivery does not feel good

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when its ordered september

vapid crypt Nov 17, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Wow, by then the 3080Ti will have "launched"

clear quartz Nov 17, 2020, 3:40 PM

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nvidea fucked up

strong whale Nov 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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3080ti will perform like a 3090 but have less vram. Just wait until you can get a 6800xt theres even been a lot of hype recently about how overclocking it to 2.5ghz makes it perform like a 3090 and stays around 60c on the stock cooler.

jade ermine Nov 17, 2020, 4:54 PM

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or 6900XT

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That should be much better than 3080 already

fleet canopy Nov 17, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Isn’t worth going for a 6900XT lol

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imo it’s just another workstation GPU that I give no shits about in gaming usually

jade ermine Nov 17, 2020, 5:16 PM

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It's 6800XT with few extra CU's

vapid crypt Nov 17, 2020, 5:23 PM

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It's not a workstation GPU, it's their big boi halo gamer GPU

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For the gamers with more money than sense

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At least it's less dumb than the 3090 phaWesker

fleet canopy Nov 17, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Ye ig

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But any top tier too fucking stupid to buy product is usually just best for workstation

hexed horizon Nov 17, 2020, 5:50 PM

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folks
after the win10 update, my USB wifi adapter is not recognized after I turn the computer on
i gotta pull it out and plug it in every time
how 2 fix

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i know this is one of the computer world's great secret I doubt anyone could answer it

vapid crypt Nov 17, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Nah the 6900XT isn't best for workstation, the pro cards from Radeon will be their best for workstation

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I think the level of extra performance you would get in workstation application over a 6800XT is about as insignificant as in games

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They both have the same amount of Vram and Bandwidth

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Those are more important in Workstation than shaders probably phaSheva

strong whale Nov 17, 2020, 7:21 PM

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yeah thats on the founders card

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leaks of course

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so take it with a grain of salt

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at the very least with their traditional design, it won't be overheating at 80c+

fleet canopy Nov 17, 2020, 8:02 PM

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e

vapid crypt Nov 17, 2020, 8:14 PM

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The leaked 2.5ghz benchmark was for the 6800 as well, which has a much shorter fin stack than the 6800XT and 6900XT

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At least that's what I recall, 60C is very impressive actually

jade ermine Nov 17, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Around 500mhz higher clocks than with ampere is seriously really good

fleet canopy Nov 17, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Men

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I have found it

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Gigabyte G27Q

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The one monitor that doesn't have 500 other letter and numbers

vapid crypt Nov 17, 2020, 11:12 PM

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I saw that one too, looks good I'll probably get it at some point phaWesker

fleet stirrup Nov 17, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Hi guys, I'm not too tech savy with computers and I'm getting a new one tomorrow. Can i get some critiques on it?

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vapid crypt Nov 17, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Hmm for that price point, a 2060 is pretty under powered

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They're taking pretty big margins from the looks of it

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That's really the only thing to say about it, hopefully they've configured it properly and it works

fleet canopy Nov 17, 2020, 11:27 PM

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There's also the M27Q @vapid crypt, only like 320-350$

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It's 170Hz, "SS" IPS,

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0.5ms rated ig

sick reef Nov 17, 2020, 11:31 PM

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So long it's not outrageously priced, I can't estimate due to dollars, it should be all right. Prebuilts can be decent when they're not scams.

vapid crypt Nov 17, 2020, 11:35 PM

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The margins are a bit high, but it isn't outrageous I would say

abstract kite Nov 17, 2020, 11:45 PM

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🌚

restive garnet Nov 17, 2020, 11:59 PM

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my main issue around pre builts is that they only do the barest minimum to meet the specs they list, meaning you quite often get the cheapest, nastiest no brand parts you can find, while charging prices you would expect for reputable brands

fleet stirrup Nov 18, 2020, 12:00 AM

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okay 🙂 thanks guys

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 12:01 AM

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whatever you end up doing, do your research, and if you are unsure, dont hesitate to ask

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most of us here are more than happy to help

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 2:09 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbb3qkcuMuk

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Oh, yes.

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Says that 6800 is for like 1440p high refresh rate, like 144Hz, and the 6800XT is for people with 1080 Ti looking to upgrade at one point

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I think it'll be a solid 4k card for a while phaSheva

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Well, like 4K or 1440p 144hz but also much nicer visuals to give out than what the 6800 might run up

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Especially once AMD has AI upscaling tech

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 2:16 AM

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I mean, it could be used for 1440p 240Hz as well PirateSimon

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:16 AM

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If you want to count that

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Yeah, ig

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Hope that's going to be pretty nice

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Last I used DLSS, I had like 120FPS but game still stuttery mess

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So kinda disappointing

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Maybe it was DLSS 1.0

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Was that while using the 7700K?

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Nah, just recently I had Bright Memory

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Refunded cause game was boring as fuck

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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DLSS does need Vram to work

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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It's like an FPS dark souls game but it just didn't really seem to be fun for me

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It wasn't also only stutter being problem, probably correct about me having 8GB loler

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But it just had the worst shit like options not saving for some reason, me trying to reload but it doesn't do jackshit

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So I just refunded it and got like 3 puzzle games, refunded one more because I finished one pretty quick for Trials Evolution Gold Edition that was on a p good sale

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Now I'm not sure if I should be getting a cheap 5700XT or waiting for 6700 phaSip

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I don't usually get new games, I grab whatever is on sale. Newest game I own is Death Stranding, and that's not a game that really needs 120FPS or whatever to be enjoyable

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 2:22 AM

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yeah

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Video at end Anthony says they'll review and benchmark 2 days later, so we just have to wait til tomorrow

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And the one with 7700K that was when I tested Quake 2 RTX

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Benchmark videos for days phaWesker

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Should I wait till next week to look out for sales, cause I'm seeing black friday plastered on Amazon and Newegg now phaSheva

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Yeah

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Just see how sales go, you could probably be able to grab a cheap enough 5700XT

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I don't think the RX 6000 will be on sale though

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Cause it's new n all

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Well yeah, I don't expect to see a $300 5700XT though, that's kind of what I'm looking for

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Right now the lowest I'm seeing is a Windforce OC for $380

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Rather Gaming OC, they don't keep consistent product names PirateSimon

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Windforce Trio OC!!!

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Uhhh

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Oh it might get discounted by November 30 on Newegg

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Whateverthehellitisforce whatever OC 3x 2x 1x lolidfk

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Some of these items have price protection so you can get the discount refunded after purchase if it goes down

agile ermine Nov 18, 2020, 4:42 AM

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is it possible to advertise a lobby while already in a game?

bright shard Nov 18, 2020, 4:46 AM

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yes, #gtfo-related-questions .
but also, as host, you can find the lobby code using escape i think

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Time to wait for RX 6000 to release in 7 hours, 20 minutes, 35 seconds, 35 milliseconds, and 73 nanoseconds

reef wedge Nov 18, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Guys do you think I can get a rx 6800

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 9:56 AM

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From stock levels at microcenters, it's not looking good

reef wedge Nov 18, 2020, 10:26 AM

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btw El demonio I upgradded my motherboard

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gtfo gets same fps but seems to run way smoother now

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I now have one of the 5600x noice

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Smoother huh, did you upgrade from a lower core count?

reef wedge Nov 18, 2020, 11:16 AM

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I upgraded from PCIe 2.0 to PCIe 4.0 and from DDR3 1,5k Hz to 3k Hz and from 4 cores to 6 cores and they having a higher boostclock

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I heared new ryzens runs smoother with 2 ram kits

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should I get a second one they are fairly cheap right now

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Oh so you upgraded from a decade old set up practically

reef wedge Nov 18, 2020, 11:17 AM

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yup

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Yeah that's no surprise then phaWesker

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Ryzen runs smoother with 2 ram kits

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I wonder if that means 1 stick or two PirateSimon

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Not me I'm not buying shit phaWesker

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But I am curious how fast they'll be gone

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I'm hearing some Microcenters are getting a total of 10 cards, that's for both cards combined

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Yeah I tried adding it to cart on Amazon and it doesn't

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So it's that bad

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I'm just curious how bad it is

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This is miserable and I will never buy new tech on launch

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I'm gonna watch the reviews

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They all rolled out at the same time

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Everyone on the Newegg Discord is panicking phaWesker

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Seems they're gone

merry bay Nov 18, 2020, 2:16 PM

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EU retailers lagging behind. Not even an out of stock listing up yet. WeirdChamping

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More windows of opportunity, but kinda have to be on your toes because it's so randomly late

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partners came out the same day as AMD?

vagrant herald Nov 18, 2020, 2:24 PM

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amazing

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time to wait 5 months for stock

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ill see you then 😄

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 2:27 PM

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No AIB cards haven't come out yet

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At most they're selling the reference design

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Hm.

jade ermine Nov 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Not bad cards but i think i keep my 3080 order in for now

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Sure, I get people aren't impressed with the raytracing performance. Though I'm not sure what people expected from the first attempts at it

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They're doing pretty well considering they lack AI upscaling, and this is still their first generation at RT

jade ermine Nov 18, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Also Instant replay, Nvidia broadcast and NVENC are welcome features. Radeon Relive is broken right now according to optimum tech so yeah

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Overclocking seems interesting though

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Pretty high numbers im seeing

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 4:16 PM

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I've decided that instead of a graphics card or a RAM+SSD upgrade

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That I will get a high refresh 1080p monitor instead

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Yeah I don't play that many new games

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So I think I can easily do 100fps for most of my library

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And if I do pick up a 5700 XT or otherwise later on I'll have a more appropriate monitor for it

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Right now I'm at 75hz

merry bay Nov 18, 2020, 5:14 PM

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I wish them plentiful very serious bids for months. Right up until stock is a-ok he'd just have his money tied up with barely any margin at the end.

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 7:13 PM

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restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:19 PM

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"Beats RTX 3080"

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misleading at best

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though at that price, it definitely doesnt beat it in price/performance 😉

merry bay Nov 18, 2020, 7:21 PM

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BEATS 3090!!!1... in 1080p on a 3950X***

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restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:21 PM

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without RTX or DLSS to boot

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:22 PM

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See it's technically faster! phaWesker

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Said the would be scalper

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Actually did Hardware unbox average out the RTX results?

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:22 PM

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honestly, dont know

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ive barely looked at the AMD cards

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figured best case would be that they go blow for blow in regular gaming, but lose out in special features, which seems to be accurate, or they would be overhyped and flop like every recent radeon card

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:24 PM

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They do quite considerably better below 4k when DLSS isn't a factor

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But I guess that's the most you can really say about em

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:25 PM

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hard case though

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4k high refresh monitors are generally expensive enough for most people to not bother

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so as long as they can generally hit the 4k60 mark, i dont think any extra FPS is meaningful

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Well you aren't getting high framerates at 4k just based on averages

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:26 PM

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unless you use DLSS

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Sure that would work

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:26 PM

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which granted, is a small, if noticeable increase

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Is it? I think it depends what resolution you're rendering from

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:27 PM

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true enough

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Which for the best performance 1080p -> 4k does pretty well for that

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Won't look as pretty as native I think, but it's close enough probably

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:28 PM

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sort of the whole point of it is that its close enough

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Well AMD knows DLSS is a pretty big factor, so obviously they're working on their equivalent

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I like the catch up game they're on, but there's still a lot of ground to cover

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:29 PM

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looking at the LTT review, amd basically said that they dont think much of DLSS

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which is sort of funny considering they have committed to it

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you're not wrong though

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Well who said that though?

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:30 PM

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hardwares not quite there yet

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softwares still a while off as well

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Uh I think they made huge leaps in terms of hardware, I think they're already kind of there especially since they were able to make a 256-bit memory bus work as good if not better than 384-bit

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It's just a matter of software I think, there's a lot of little things that add up that Nvidia is already offering that can be a major selling point for people

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:32 PM

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their ray tracing acceleration is bad though

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which is a hardware issue

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:32 PM

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It's actually better than I thought it would be

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:32 PM

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granted, its bad because its an early iteration

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but its still behind nvidia

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:33 PM

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They're just missing AI Upscaling to even things out. It won't be 1:1 but I think that's really what's holding it back

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:33 PM

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their video encoders are terrible as well

fleet canopy Nov 18, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Hm.

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:34 PM

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they have comparable regular work load performance, but nvidia still comes out by miles in terms of extras

vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I remember them mentioning reworking their encoder, but there's literally no details about that

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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looking at LTTs review, one of their tests failed miserably

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also, heres amds statement i was referring to before

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that last line in particular, while true, is still something they have to account for

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if as a consumer i could get 90% of the visual quality and double my fps, id take it in a heart beat

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and heres a bit of their video encoder in action

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vapid crypt Nov 18, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Wait does the X264 look better?

restive garnet Nov 18, 2020, 7:41 PM

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yeah

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they dont really support ray accelerated rendering on their cards, despite having a plugin for ProRender